- Jossed
- Jossed. Richard Parker is revealed to have died in the plane crash in The Amazing Spider-Man 2.
- Also, the black hat that the man has is similar to the hat that was on top of the broom, during the prologue.
- His expertise in illusions are what allowed him to appear and disappear.
- But how did an apparently sick and dying man sneak into and out of a prison cell?
- He is a rich and powerful man. Maybe he bribed the prison guard.
- There was a flash of scales on someone's neck during that scene. Osborn must have gotten a hold of the formula. Whose to say that it can't be modified into the Goblin formula, using the lizard DNA as a workable base and adding in other animals for the desired effect. And then the DNA overload drives him insane...
- Jossed by Rhys Ifans, who confirms that the mysterious man isn't Norman Osborn.
- It's possible he's lying. They've done it before. TDKR SPOILERS: Remember when Marion Cotillard swore up and down that she wasn't playing Talia al Ghul? Look how that turned out.
- Alternatively, it's technically not Norman, but a separate personality that is/will become the Green Goblin.
- Also, was it just me or did the person voicing him do his best Willem Dafoe impression? That could be a point either for or against it being Norman.
- He is a rich and powerful man. Maybe he bribed the prison guard.
- The lightning is foreshadowing.
- More than foreshadowing. It's a completely locked cell and Electro isn't in the cell when the door closes. He appears when the lightning strikes at the beginning and disappears when lightning strikes at the end. Because it isn't lightning striking. It's him, leaving and entering the room through the window, traveling as pure electricity.
- May be partially confirmed, given Jamie Foxx's casting as Electro.
- Jossed. Electro died in the second movie, and The Man in the Shadows visited Harry at Ravencroft, and when heading to the Special Projects division in Oscorp, the elevator said “Welcome, Mr. Fiers.
- May be partially confirmed, given Jamie Foxx's casting as Electro.
- He clearly knows Dr. Connors, and possibly Richard Parker (at any rate he knows what happened to him) - the link between these men that would interest the kind of man who does things like sneak into prison is their work in biology, an area the Jackal would be well acquainted with. Clone Saga for the next movie, perhaps?
- Jossed. See above.
- Holy crap. If the Lizard had killed Spider-Man and succeeded in his plan, Morlun would have had an entire city of potential totems to feed from. Okay, yeah, the Lizard was on the list of "totemic usurpers", but if a radioactive spider gave Peter a totemic connection, at least one of the new Lizard people could have become a totemic lizard.
The second film Norman at first mostly considers Peter nothing more than an obstacle, and has decided to use his power, both as the Goblin and out, to recruit a large gang of followers, using them to take over the city. MJ, who is currently living with Peter and Harry and has noticed his injuries from his adventures, is trying to comfort Peter after Gwen's death, but while he pushes her away, he ends up becoming attracted to her, only for her to turn him down to preserve their mutual friendship and the memory of Gwen, who she became good friends with and roommates in the last film. As the Goblin, Norman declares New York his teritory, and destroys the bridges to take over the city. As Spider-Man, Peter takes the fight to Norman, trying to stop him from taking over the city and fighting to protect the innocents from his gang. With the city now in a state of anarchy, Harry and MJ realize Peter is out there, so they head out to find him. Peter is overwhelmed by a large number of Norman's mooks, but is saved by MJ who runs half of them down with her car. Peter tries to get her to safety but she tells him she knows who he is, and he promises to deal with all this once he's done. MJ returns home to find Norman waiting there, supposedly for Harry, but she clicks onto who he is and alerts Peter via text, who comes back to fight him. Norman attempts to harm MJ, but she fights him off long enough for Peter to arrive. They fight across the city, until eventually, after a long a grueling battle, Norman is apparently killed by his own glider. As Peter returns home, he talks everything out with MJ but the two still don't get together as MJ doesn't feel Peter is over Gwen yet, and doesn't want the same to happen to herself. Harry is alerted to his father's death and is disgusted to find out who he was, but arranges for his identity to be covered up. As Harry leaves the morgue, just as they were about to perform an autopsy on Norman, his finger twitches and his eye opens, revealing he's alive as it cuts to black.I'm still not sure on the second film's name, but for the third I was thinking something along the lines of The Spectacular Spider-Man, with whatever is picked for the second also having a comic book title's prefix used. That would be the first trilogy, a second trilogy dealing with other villains would follow, during the course of which MJ and Peter eventually do get together.
- Sensational Spider-Man perhaps? At any rate, awesome WMG and I hope this happens.
- Or Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.
- Or The Tangled Web of Spider-Man.
- And the final film will be The Ultimate Spider-Man.
- "The Sensational Spider-Man"!
- Jossed, as least for the sequel.
- Glad I'm not the only one who thought this.
- The "very least" is confirmed, they're looking for a new Harry.
- Both Harry and Norman Osborn have had their castings confirmed now.
- Alternate theory: She WON'T die, but they'll break up at some point.
- This is very plausible that Gwen dies. From how the things are played, this plays up some parallels with Batman's The Dark Knight Trilogy. A reboot where the first trilogy starts with the hero fighting their not-so-well-known nemesis (Ra's Al Ghul and The Lizard) instead of their most well known one (Green Goblin and Joker)? Putting bets that the next movie will feature Green Goblin, and considering Goblin was the primary cause of Gwen's death... (and Joker killed off Rachel in The Dark Knight...) Also note that the first films of their pre-reboot (Sam Raimi's and Tim Burton's), they WERE fighting off their most known nemesis right off bat.
- Alternatively, with the announcement that Electro will be the villain of the sequel, Gwen will last until at least the third film (a minimum of three films are planned)
- With Captain Stacy wanting Peter to stay away from Gwen so that she won't get hurt and then Peter staying with her anyways, they're pretty much setting her up to die, so that Peter will have something new to angst over as per the rule of the character. Then the end of the second film and probably a good deal of the third film would be "If I had just stayed away from her she'd still be alive!"
- And running with that theory, after much angsting at the end of the second movie and much of the third (and last?) movie, Peter is finally at peace with himself and ready to move on. Then, in The Stinger of the third movie, Peter finally meets the the girl who Aunt May had been trying to set him up with. She rings the bell, Peter opens and is greeted with the infamous line, "Face it, tiger, you just hit the jackpot.". Bonus points if she's played by a red-headed Emma Stone.
- That's not possible for legal reasons. Sony owns the Spider-Man franchise; they bought the rights to the concept and a list of characters primarily affiliated with Spider-Man from Marvel Studios in order to make the movies (both the old and new ones). So now Sony owns all the rights to Spider-Man, which means that no other studios can use the concept or characters. The rights to the Avengers, as well as any Marvel characters who haven't been sold to another studio, still belong to Marvel. Since Sony isn't involved with the Avengers, the Avengers can't have Spider-Man, and none of the Avengers can show up in the Spider-Man movies either. Same goes for any character that isn't from Spider-Man, because that's all Sony bought the rights to. Sorry.
- That doesn't mean a venture into the MCU can't happen at all, just that it would be expensive and difficult. Considering how much money the Avengers raked in, and how much it's going to make in the future with DVD and Blu-ray sales and how much the probable sequel could make, it isn't completely inconceivable that the two companies will attempt to negotiate a deal for Spidey to appear in, say, Avengers 2 or something. Seeing as how TAS is doing really well, and that the lack of Spider-Man and other comics Avengers was one of the biggest complaints about Avengers, there may well be some kind of effort to try to negotiate terms. It's unlikely anything will come out of it, but still... It's not completely impossible.
- Didn't Sony go bankrupt?
- All I could find on the Oscorp Building being in the Avenger's New York skyline was that it was a rumor, and part of that rumor was that it didn't happen because the skyline was already almost done. The possibility of a crossover is possible, but not likely. It requires that both Sony and Marvel Studios come to an agreement on the money. One time licensing fee or percentage of the profits? What percentage is fair? Sony refused to allow Incredible Hulk to use the name Empire State University, Spider-Man swinging by in the background, or Tobey Maguire uncredited standing in a crowd scene. To the fans, a collaboration is the most obvious thing; but corporations only see profits and losses. Even loss of projected profits.
- It's possible that some future event may cause Sony to sell the rights back to Marvel. In that case, we'd either get another Spider-Man reboot as part of the MCU, or the ASM movies would be retconned to be part of the MCU.
- This would raise the question of why Spider-Man didn't help out during the Chitauri invasion. One could say that he got his powers after the invasion, but then we'd have to ask why New York in the Spider-Man movie doesn't show any signs of damage from the battle.
- Doesn't it? There do seem to be rather a lot of cranes on a single street towards the end of the film. Enough that there's no way they could all be working on the same site (unless that site covered both sides of the street for several blocks).
- This article suggests that the producers of Spider-Man are considering a deal with Marvel Studios to make a crossover.
- It is now official! Spidey will be joining the MCU in 2016's Captain America: Civil War, and both The Amazing Spider-Man 3 and Sinister Six have been canceled.
- She noticed he walked out after seeing George Stacy's announcement.
- I think this needs some elaboration, because I literally just noticed this scene's importance and came over to see if anyone had mentioned this. Sure, Peter leaves after Captain Stacy's announcement, but it's more than that. When the camera returns to the Parker house, May is making tea listening to the news as it reports that the danger has passed. Connors is in custody and the lizard sickness has been cured via airborne antidote. And then Peter walks in, with scratches all over his face, that can't be the result of some teenage fight club as she sort of fears earlier when Peter's hunting down Ben's killer. There's a flicker of realization that he just saved New York. That he is Spider-man, and that as much as she may fear for his safety, he's embracing his father's philosophy and his Uncle's words, he has the ability to do good and is accepting the duty which comes with that.
- Or, maybe, she'll play a major part in the sequel and form a love triangle with Peter and Gwen. Then, Gwen dies...
For his foolish crime of not reporting it, Peter allowed the rat to escape, upon which it became more intelligent, and even more bloodthirsty, thus working it's way through the criminal underworld, and eventually overthrowing Wilson Fisk himself, and becoming the undisputed crime lord of Manhattan, mastermining everything that happens to Peter in the next two films, before he's finally revealed as his arch-nemesis at the conclusion of the trilogy.
At that point, Spider-Man will be forced to battle the rat all across Manhattan in an attempt to stop it from consuming Gwen, Aunt May, and everyone he holds dear, and during a dual on top of the Statue of Liberty (in the middle of the night, and during a thunderstorm), Peter will learn the true meaning of sacrifice, and will give his life to save the Earth.
- This set of films has been confirmed as a trilogy, so I'm totally with you if we change the WMG to 'The mutated, flesh-eating rat will be the villain of the last film'. In fact, it probably planned the whole thing and is the real big bad of the whole trilogy.
- Agreed, and changed accordingly.
- And they were killed for spying on Norman Osborn. What's worse the reason why Osborn figure it out - because Richard was not willing to do human testing.
- Adding to that, like in the original comics, they had to leave because they were branded as traitors. They also worked for Eddie Brock, Sr., he may have been the one who framed them, thanks to the Red Skull.
- Marvel owns the film rights to SHIELD though, so at most, they would just be government agents of some sort.
- Because it's not set in MCU.
- ...But why white?
- That would be hilarious, the (mostly) mainstream based Avengers have the Ultimate Comics Fury, while the mostly Ultimate Comics based TAS will have the god-ol' mainstream Fury
- Unlikely, since this movie takes a LARGE number of cues from the Ultimate universe, which is where "Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury" started, they literally modeled Ultimate-Nick after Sam.
- If This Troper understands the legal issues correctly (which he may not), Nick Fury can't appear in these movies: Sony only has the rights to official Spider-Man characters. (Compare The Spectacularspider Man, which had the same issues.)
- ...But why white?
- Which would look like luqid latex.
- And mislead many parents into ragewar claiming that the movie is propoganda of open sexuality in teenagers.
- Giggidy. As long as Black Cat shows up in a derivative suit. Or Gwen. Or MJ. I'm not picky, really.
- And mislead many parents into ragewar claiming that the movie is propoganda of open sexuality in teenagers.
- Oh god please no.....
- Doubtful. The tie-in video game used both characters, and the production team for the film only allowed them to use characters they weren't planning on using in future films. So whilst plans could change, right now we won't be seeing either character in the films.
- Plus, it's heavily hinted that Rhino is killed during your final fight with him in the game.
- The Rhino has been casted for the second film, so while he'll probably won't be major villain, this is confirmed.
- Confirmed, not to mention plot-important: it's Gwen's graduation speech that gets Peter back on his feet after her death.
- MAN-SPIDER!!!
- Someone make a fanfic about this!
- I had to do a double take because Gobby is Australian slang for a blowjob.
At the start of the next film, Green Goblin realizes that for all his awesome gadgets, he doesn't have Spider-Man's strength and endurance, and so tests a prototype version of the strength serum intended for his dying wife (he's fine, it's his wife who's dying - noone knows what he looks like as he's a reclusive billionaire so he does whatever he wants) and gets properly goblinified. He goes nuts, his wife dies. He'll have reason to be a batsh*t crazy loon that kills everyone, but he won't be a sympathetic character. His vendetta against Peter is because he effectively put his best researcher out of the picture. Peter should by now have a job at the Bugle and Spider-Man's negative publicity should be fully realized. He has to redeem himself in the eyes of the people of NYC, defeat Green Goblin physically and mentally (Gobby gives a Gwen Mind Screw or two) and learn to forgive himself for Gwen's death. The film will end with Peter admitting his feelings to MJ and Norman Osbourne in prison/an asylum and, with his Oscorp company's stocks dropping at this latest mad-man revelation, his college dropout son (who was at a UK university doing a masters degree in something science-y) inherits control of the company. He doesn't much like science, but he does long for his father's respect. The last scene (before the obligatory post-credits one) is him suggesting to the board of directors that they restart PROJECT X - not necessarily called that, but something that his father and Richard Parker worked on years ago. Something which involves their sons...
Well she's working as an intern at Oscorp and... "Sins Past" anyone?- Ock is hired to take Connor's place at Oscorp, and he gains an infection resulting in him growing tentacles. As the film progresses, the infection gets worse, and by the end he's a tentacled being looking like he came straight out of R'yleh.
- Semi-Jossed. In the trailer for the new one we get a glimpse at some kind of prototype, which is at least partially mechanical. However, the arms seem to be writhing around on their own in a manner similar to an actual cephalopod's.
- The Green Goblin: Come on it was foreshadowed.
- The Symbiote: Assumeing they plan on setting a stage for the upcoming Venom spinoff.
- Electro: He was one of Spider-Man's most formidable foes, and the lightning in The Stinger, could be a dead giveaway.
- Confirmed
- Carnage: Possibly in the Venom spinoff (Lethal Protector anyone ?).
- Mysterio: One of the most likely suspects.
- Jackal: Another big suspect in The Stinger.
- Villains like the Rhino and Alistair Smythe won't be used because they where used in a game that was 100% precent canon, and the creators of the game said they won't put villians in the video games that were planned for future movies.
- The Rhino is going to be in the second film, so villains from the games are not off the table.
- There's a reason it's an Aborted Arc. They dropped it because it was very poorly received, they should know better than trying to do it again.
- The Hollywood executive types are generally leery of repeating villains, except for the most iconic ones such as the Joker. Norman Osborn isn't quite at that level yet; so, they're setting us up to think he'll be the big bad guy, but somewhere along the way, a dying Osborn will get pushed out of Oscorp (perhaps literally) by Roderick Kingsley, who will become the Hobgoblin as he looks through Oscorp's research.
- Are you sure you know what you're talking about? The Green Goblin is the Joker to Spider-Man's Batman, and Norman is one of the most iconic Marvel villains.
- Yes, he's Spidey's Big Bad, but to the audience at large, the Joker is FAR more iconic.
- That's just because of the ridiculous amount of Batman hype.
- Are you sure you know what you're talking about? The Green Goblin is the Joker to Spider-Man's Batman, and Norman is one of the most iconic Marvel villains.
- They could probably do a decent Venom/Symbiote in a single movie if they wanted to. The problem with Spider-man 3 was that between Sandman, Green Goblin 2, and Peter's issues with MJ, that film was already full. They crammed Venom in at the last minute due to Executive Meddling and it shows.
- Jossed.
- Not entirely sure if its a UK only thing or if its true to the US police as well, but high ranking police officers actually get fairly decent pay. Along with the fact we don't know what Gwen's mother does, I don't think its enough to go from 'nice home' to 'working with crooks'.
- Think about it. Lizards don't have anything in their DNA that would give Conners a Healing Factor, Omnicidal Maniac tendencies or Giant-ness. However, SCP-682 has all of those traits, plus scaly skin and the other reptilian qualities that would make Dr. Conners the Lizard. Perhaps he decided to boost the formula after the Hamsters died by using his connections to the SCP to obtain a sample of 682's flesh, and used some in his Lizard Formula. (this WMG operates on Holly Wood Science and LEGO Genetics, so don't complain that DNA doesn't work that way). But Wait, There's More! In the video game, part of the plot revolves around Vermin infecting people and turning them into more animal-human hybrids. You fight many of them in the sewer, but strangely enough, all of them have scaly skin and other Lizard qualities. This makes no sense, since the only hybrid that could infect others was Vermin (Who was half-rat). Perhaps they are not humans Vermin infected, perhaps the breakout that Vermin lead caused some SCPs stored in the tower to escape too. The Lizard-zombies could then be explained as victims of SCP-088's secretions.
- Instead, he was given the money from the wrestling match and stopped the robber. This got him in the managers good books, who offered him a job as a wrestler full time. He took it, and it was his match that was being promoted in the ring with his mask.
- Because the mask was more Deadpool than Spidey.
- Hear me out, he obviously wasn't the nicest guy so how about when he learnt Norman Osborn was dying he began working on a plan to take over Oscorp, maybe even trick Norman's son Harry into signing over control to him, but he had to be seen doing something trying to find a cure for his boss. So when Connors shows him his breakthrough in cross-species genetics he hatches a plan using the veterans hospital: if it works he has it destroyed and continues to pretend to find a cure until he dies and if it turn Osborn into an animal hybrid (the Green Goblin, realizing it may have that effect) he can have the Goblin framed for killing Norman. SO when Connors as the Lizard killed him in the deleted scene he unknowingly stopped a conspiracy to overthrow Oscorp.
- That sounds pretty awesome, actually. That would've made a nice subplot.
- Jossed.
Now that the Sinister six are set up for the third film with Green Goblin, Elektro, Vulture and Rhino and BJ Novak cast as an O Scorp employee, he's going to be some sort of technological genius who develops whatever sonic attack is effective against the symbiote which ends with Spider-Man being cured but Eddie Brock becoming infected by it.
- Apparently, she will play a villain, and the only well-known female Spider-Man villains I can think of right now are Black Cat and Silver Sable. She could be playing a more obscure character, but it' unlikely.
- Confirmed! She makes her first appearance in the second movie as Harry's secretary, and could very well become Black Cat in the third or fourth movie.
- Except Sony doesn't own the rights to X-Men, 20th Century Fox does
- The Night Gwen Stacy Died
- Green Goblin Reborn
- The Symbiote story arc
- The Wedding
Video Game Spin offs
- The Clone Saga
- The Grey Goblin story arc
- Maxinum Carnage
- Spider-Men
Here's what we know about Rhino so far.
1. Rhino will start the film as a hammy, violent thug who fights Spidey and gets throughly humiliated.
2. Rhino will threaten Max Dillon before his transformation, which prompts Spidey to save Max and set up their relationship for the rest of the film.
Rhino will serve largely as a secondary villain while the main focus is on Spider-Man vs. Electro. After his humiliating defeat, he seeks revenge by getting his hands on some Powered Armor, like the Ultimate Marvel version of the character. As the newest supervillain on the block, he tracks down and attacks Spider-Man during one of his fights with Electro. Rhino acts all cocky, maybe trades a few blows with Spidey, and then Electro gets involved. Electro remembers how Rhino attacked him before, and now he's in a perfect situation for some payback. Electro effortlessly shuts down Rhino's armor, then electro-magnetically picks him up and uses Rhino as a glorified projectile against Spidey. For all his new power, Rhino's the same joke he was at the start of the film.