- No, the Vorta and Jem'Hadar still exist, but they're the result of various uplift experiments, rather than go-betweens and cannon fodder. They have full rights.
- In the Mirror Universe, the Changelings have uplifted many, many lower life forms in the Gamma Quadrant to sapient status, and are still worshiped as physical gods by their creations. Genetic engineering is to the Dominion's utopian, liberal democracy what matter replication technology is the Federation in the Prime Universe: the technology that makes Utopia possible. It has defended the Gamma Quadrant from the Borg for at least 2,000 years, and watched the Terran Empire rise and fall from a distance.
- So what was Mirror Odo doing at Mirror Terok Nor?
- He was still sent out by the Founders to explore the galaxy, it just so happens that when he went through the wormhole he found the despotic, autocratic Alliance instead of the (comparatively less-so) Cardassians/Bajorans.
- In fact, a major point of the whole series seems to have been that the Dominion was the complete opposite of the Federation: where humanity used its unique characteristics to bring thousands of species together in racial harmony, the Dominion's founders used their species' unique abilities to conquer and redesign the other species of their quadrant to suit themselves. Where the Federation outlawed genetic tampering and augmentation, the Dominion used it extensively to reshape every species to serve it in some capacity. Since the Dominion is such a complete inversion of the Federation, it's likely that over in the morally inverted Mirror Universe, the Dominion is the Federation. It probably even calls itself that, or something like it. (The "Gamma Confederation" maybe?)
- Jossed in the EU novel Rise Like Lions. The Mirror Dominion is in fact worse than the Prime Dominion. This makes sense, as the Mirror Universe isn't really a moral inversion of the Prime, it's more like an exaggeration of its negative aspects:
- Mirror humanity in general has our selfishness magnified.
- Prime!Kirk's womanizing tendencies and confidence-bordering-on-arrogance get magnified into blatant sexism and Attempted Rape.
- Prime!Sisko's cocky streak takes over his character to where he basically starts the Rebellion because he was bored of being Kira's privateer.
- The Mirror Klingons and Cardassians have their species' asshole sides exaggerated, and Mirror Worf wasn't raised on human tales of Klingon honor so he's more like a House of Duras-style drunken asshole Klingon.
- Point of order: that novel does not establish that the Mirror Dominion is worse, merely that it exists and is organized in the same basic way (with ketracel white-dependent Jem'Hadar cannon fodder, Vorta as the organizers/commanders, and the Founders firmly on top). The Mirror Dominion being worse comes from the Decipher Star Trek RPG, although there's nothing contradicting it in the short glimpse shown in Rise Like Lions.
Despite numerous warning from residents of the Gamma Quadrant about the Dominion, Star Fleet kept constantly probing deeper into the Gamma Quadrant and establishing colonies until they provoked the attack that destroyed the USS Odyssey. Then the Federation attempts a poorly planned and executed "peace initiative" that ends in its delegation being captured and "brainwashed" by the Dominion. This failure wasn't followed not by a retreat from the Gamma Quadrant, but a military buildup of Deep Space Nine.
When the Great Link sent out one hundred infant Changelings to live among Alpha Quadrant cultures, it knew they would experience social isolation, if not outright hatred from humanoids. This was a deliberate strategy by the Great Link to ensure that future generations of Changelings shared its disdain and paranoia of "solids", thus ensuring the Dominion's status quo. Had the infants experienced Alpha Quadrant cultures differently — say, as a collective group rather than isolated individuals, or as visitors with a home among the Great Link rather than stranded orphans — they wouldn't have cultivated the necessary resentment needed to run a xenophobic empire. However, they didn't expect Odo to turn out the way he did ...
- Laas is pretty much what they imagined the hundred would all be, scorned, condescending, and dismissive of the solids' welfare. Laas wanted to create his own link, if memory serves, so their plan wasn't perfect. What made Odo so special (even if he didn't know it) was that he learned to empathize with the solids and understand their motivations, and was the only Changling to do so.
The Female Changeling once told Odo that the Changeling Founders were originally solids who evolved into shapeshifters. In "Broken Link", when Odo is punished by the Founders by being transformed into a humanoid, the Founders merely de-evolved him. That is, they forced him into a "throwback" humanoid form that was already encoded in his genetic material.
p.s. not complaining about how it did, just having fun with some ideas
- Sisko fails at convincing the prophets to destroy the Dominion fleet and they win the war. ~20-30 years later, a ship resembling an Intrepid-class comes from the direction of the Delta quadrant full of powerful weapons, possibly intended against the Borg. It is able to destroy much of the Dominion fleet and get to Earth, where it begins an uprising against the Dominion and eventually restores the Federation.
- The Borg attack the Dominion, they assimilate the clone breeding centers and begin chugging out drones. The Borg determine they cannot assimilate Changelings and therefore declare an open hail that they will exterminate them. The Borg smash through the Jemhdar Wolf 359 style. To save the Founders Sisko must first pick up Captain Picard who will function as an ambassador to the Borg, if that fails Sisko is to use the Defiant to destroy the Borg cube. Sisko and his crew do everything they can to fight the borg. It ends up with just Sisko and Picard on the bridge of the Defiant throwing everything they have at the Borg...to no avail. The Borg over power the Defiant. Sisko programs in ramming speed, Picard tells him to stop and open a hail. Sisko wants to fire, Picard pulls rank and Sisko reigns himself in. Picard gives a Picard speech admitting that resistance is futile, they will win, but if there is any of me, and of the hundreds of federation citizens you've assimilated within you then you must see that there is another way, a better way. Yadda yadda he lays on the Picard speech. The Borg cube responds that it must go ponder what has been said and the Cube flies away. The crew of the Defiant beam down, and Odo rejoins his people. The Female Changeling comes up and agrees to peace.
- Actually Odo could have ended the war easily. He just had to say to the Founders I'll come home IF you remove all forces from the Alpha Quadrant and agree to a galactic peace treaty with the Federation. He puts on his tuxedo and Boom, war over.
- Admiral Ross successfully takes over the Federation in his coup. Sisko is locked away. Major Kira leads a covert commando force right into Starfleet HQ and rescues him. They go back to Bajor. The Federation now falls to infighting. The Dominion begins to pounce. Sisko activates his Emmisary card and the Bajoran government enlists the remaining Masquis to form a renegade army that goes after the Dominion themselves.
- Along the way Worf decides to get the sword of Kales and unite the Klingons behind Sisko.
- In the end the Defiant is piloted by the now renegade Sisko and his crew who are now more anti-hero types. The Defiant smashes through the Dominion lines and orbits the homeworld of the Founders. As the Founder gloat at him, what will one little ship be able to do against a whole planet. BOOM the Defiant fires a Genesis Torpedo! Nuff said.
- Along the way Worf decides to get the sword of Kales and unite the Klingons behind Sisko.
- The Jem'Hadar represent the increasingly trigger-happy Police Force; ready willing and able to put down any and all dissent at a moment's notice.
- The Vorta represent Mass Media; smug, ingratiating (And often with perfect hair), in sycophantic thrall to the leaders, which leads to...
- The Founders represent Washington; crafty and paranoid, always ready to neutralize any real or perceived threat.
- So, obviously, The Federation, as always, represents Our Ideals; the idea that we can make a better world, where violence, hatred and fear has been replaced with optimism and hope. And the Dominion War represents these ideals triumphing over the corruption that Dominates us. DS9 is often decried as falling on the Cynical side of the Sliding Scale, but it is in fact quite the opposite.
- Humans consist of 7 billion overpowered beings that are shredding the planet at high speeds, we like cows and chickens one way, we like dogs and cats and horses another way, we've exterminated rhinos and dodos and frog species right and left, we pour millions of dollars into pest control, taking out ants and spiders and mice and rats and whatever else happens to bug us the wrong way because they're "not like us".
- The gaps are that Changelings don't have racism, gender issues, crazy cop killings, internal wars, atomic bombs, rape, theft, and jaywalking, and their species happens to have a couple questionable-relative-to-mammals-methods for raising their young. Unlike mammals, but like reptiles, they drop their young off and trust their instincts to figure it out.
The war was instigated by the Cardassians to make them seem like really sympathetic pawns; remember that Cardassians are long-term planners; sacrificing the dignity and comfort of a generation, not to mention millions of lives when they rebelled against the Dominion at the end of the war, is second-nature to them. Even their epic novels typically take place over several generations and involve a tradition of sacrifice and duty to the state. Their militaristic culture is practically based on Machiavellian politics. Now, as an occupied power, they've endured horrors eerily similar to what they themselves did to the Bajorans. By the end of the war, when they rebel against the Dominion, the Cardassians really look like they've been tragically screwed. But this is what they want. They want the rest of the galaxy to see them as just as sympathetic as, if not more than, the Bajorans. In the next generation, growing up after the Dominion War, the Cardassians will basically be the new Bajorans, dispossessed and broken. Then eventually they'll join the Federation, supposedly as a last resort, but this is actually in line with their greater plan: once they've got their foot in the door, they will use their superhumanoid politicking skills to take over the Federation Council, and Earth itself. They'll become the lawyers and intelligence agents of the Federation, just like Vulcans are the diplomats and scientists of the Federation. Earth will become a colony of Cardassia, and Cardassia will take over the Federation without a single shot fired.
- Works, but only if Cardassians age the same rate as everyone else. Who's to say that they age 2-5x the speed of humans so that 3 generations of Cardassians represents just two decades of human growth. Not to mention, there is probably some give-and-take between the Cardassians for Federation aid. They'd probably have some say in schooling, military, etc. Notice that Japan hasn't taken over the UN.
- Related secondary WMG based on the Cardassians' shown abilities: There is indeed such a plan amongst part of the Cardassian leadership. It will fail, because the Cardassians are not that superhumanoid in their politicking or planning, and the Federation is very good at assimilating cultures into its greater overarching culture. The Cardassians will become an influential and powerful species in the Federation, but they will not rule it (as a species. Individual Cardassians might very well end up as President from time to time) nor will Earth become a colony of Cardassia in any sense.
Because the war never turned hot. They're still in a very long, uncomfortable cold war with them - without Sisko's input events happened differently. The Dominion is building up forces, possibly already aligned with Cardassia (all though without his rivalry with Sisko Dukat's motivations might have been changed slightly) and the Federation appeases them over and over again ... by the time they stand up to them it might be too late.
- An alternative, more positive, possibility is that without Sisko's involvement, the events of To the Death happened differently. Weyoun of course painted things as negatively for the Federation as possible, but in The Visitor's timeline, perhaps the events went more favourable for the Alpha Quadrant than that, triggering a civil war between a majority of loyal Jem'Hadar and a much smaller group of renegade Jem'Hadar with access to a functional Iconian gateway and therefore the immensely powerful strategic ability to strike anywhere. By the time that was sorted out, years might have passed (losing Dukat his opportunity to seize control with the Dominion's help, since no Dominion help is forthcoming for the foreseeable future), the Dominion's Gamma Quadrant forces would have been depleted and the gateway might have had to have been destroyed, leaving the Dominion to take decades to build up their forces simply to be where they were by the time of To the Death.
Q's appearance on DS9 was not random or as purposeless as we may think, he was checking in on Benjamin Sisko who was a sort of double blind test of humanity. Picard was the human Q chose to make aware of the test, and he put Picard through hoops that Picard knew about to judge humanity that way. The much more meaningful test was Sisko, and by extension the entire Dominion War. Check it - Omnipotent Q introduced the Enterprise to the Borg, the Borg attacked at Wolf 359, Jennifer Sisko was killed at 359, which drove Sisko out of regular duty to be posted at DS9, where he becomes the emissary and discovers the wormhole starting the war with the Dominion. Whereas Q tested Riker with the physical powers of a god, he tested Sisko with the social/ethical powers of a god by putting Sisko in a position to be worshipped as a god by another race of being, how would humanity handle that? Q tested Picard with the temporal anomaly to see if humanity could grasp a paradox. Sisko had to actually speak to non-linear and learn to communicate with them, was this a test of humanities ability to communicate on a deeper esoteric level? The Dominion was an enemy capable of plunging the peaceful Federation into a loosing war, how would humanity handle that challenge, would they rise to it, would they loose their way?
- The problem with this theory is that it's canon that Odo's appearance was due to him not being very good at doing faces — and, indeed, in the episode "Children of Time" future!Odo has a slightly more humanoid (but still not perfect) face. The reason why all the other Founders look like that is because they're copying Odo.
- What if the Bajoran people, which Odo was trying to mimic, are closer to the founders genetically.
- In one episode, Odo is visited by another changeling, Laas, who hasn't made contact with the Founders. Laas' humanoid form appears to be mimicking whatever species he grew up around, although with an Odo-esque 'smoothness' to it, with no lips or eyebrows. And Laas doesn't have the "can't do one of your noses" excuse - he's an expert shapeshifter who can turn into fire, fog, and even a freakin' warp-capable starship. This suggests there's some 'pure' Changeling-humanoid look in there somewhere. If the other Founders were purely imitating Odo, why don't they all look like the same actor?
- Alternatively, the Founders ARE the Precursors. All the evidence is there: they admit themselves that they used to be "solids", implying quite an old race, and they also state that they used to explore the galaxy, as the Precursors did. The Female Changeling looks like she does because she's acting as a mouthpiece for the Founders, like the Precursor in "The Chase", and that form was found to be most effective.
- Alternatively: she beamed nowhere. She's now a discorporated mass who sent her intel she gathered already. If she's a Vorta, she's basically a disposable, replaceable clone.
- Fridge Brilliance: If you take this together with the WMG further above that Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas takes place on ancient Bajor instead of earth, you get... something extremely weird.
- She was the only Vorta to ever display telekinetic abilities.
- Maybe she was a clone of the original prototype of the Vorta species. Maybe the Vorta were originally designed with telekinetic abilities. Maybe the Vorta were originally intended to be the Dominion's footsoldiers as well as diplomats, but at some point the Founders decided that it would be better to create two weaker species which they could easily control, rather than one single "supersoldier" species: they removed the Vorta's psi powers and kept them on as administrators and diplomats, and then they engineered the Jem'Hadar as a more easily controlled species of supersoldiers without tricky psi powers that could threaten the Founders. However, every once in a while, the Dominion activated an Eris clone when they felt they needed her. She would be programmed to complete a single mission and then commit suicide in the most convenient way possible, such as by beaming into space.
- The transporter part was Jossed on-screen: Dominion transporter was stated having range of at least three light years, when enchanched with a homing transponder like the one used to kidnap Kira and move her from ''Deep Space 9'' to ''Empok Nor''
◊. Maybe she had one of those in her pocket. Still doesn't explain the telekinetic abilities...
- As someone who features Eris in his fanfiction extensively, I think she is one of a handful of Vorta who opted for telekinesis when she first became a clone.
- It wasn't a matter of tech. It was a matter of will and resources. The Federation doesn't (publicly) engage in atrocities, while the Cardassians didn't really have the resources to wipe them out and withstand the inevitable backlash from the Federation. The Dominion were perfectly fine with committing atrocities, and they could easily withstand any attack at that point. Also, one of the biggest sources was Mike Eddington, who was a member of the Maquis, and was trying to evacuate the last survivors of his cell in his last appearance.
- That one guy from VOY "Repression" was still around.
- We see that some Maquis raiders were in the later big battles in the war. I assume a few survivors took their ships and joined with the Federation fleets to get back a the Dominion.
The Changelings' powers are really similar to those of Ditto in Pokemon, and it also explains why they have both a superiority complex over and ear of "solids." The Dominion could just be an attempt by these advanced Dittos to do to the rest of the galaxy what they first did to their homeworld.
As has been pointed out elsewhere, the Federation was supposed to lose even if both the Romulans joined the war on their side (which did happen) and the Cardassians began an anti-Dominion rebellion (which also happened, although only after the war was turning against the Dominion), and that, to all appearances, did not take into account the Breen joining when they did. So what turned the course of war towards victory? One major possibility is that it was the Dominion remaining cut-off from the Gamma Quadrant despite the minefield going down (that the minefield would go down eventually may well have been a statistical near-certainty in the calculations), which only happened because the very alien and very unknown Wormhole Aliens for once made a personal and impressive intervention in response to a desperate last-shot gamble by Sisko. The Jack Pack calculated based on it being inevitable that sooner or later the Dominion's Gamma Quadrant power could come into play, but in one swoop the Prophets ensured that would not happen — and so allowed the Federation to win the Dominion War.
- It's actually pretty heavily implied by the show (though never directly confirmed) that the Prophets and Pah-Wraiths are applying subtle influences on the course of the war, considering that the alliance gets pretty bogged down when Dukat sticks a Pah-Wraith in the wormhole. See the Deep Space Nine entry on Divine Conflict.
- They also probably did not calculate Section 31 attempting genocide. This and the Prophets not being included, showed that the Mutants calculations had many flaws because they lacked all the information.
- And then there's the fact that they predicted a rebellion led by earth five generations down the line, when a prior episode indicated that the Dominion was planning to preemptively glass Earth to prevent exactly this eventuality.
- I think it's actually much more likely that Sisko and the events of "In the Pale Moonlight" specifically are what threw off their war projections. The Jack Pack predicted that the Romulans would join the war against the Dominion, yes, but only after close to a year had passed (Season seven timeframe) and the Federation and the Klingons were that much weaker, and thus the alliance as a whole would have been in a weaker position. Their predictions were based on statistical analysis of the powers themselves, which would have included the Dominion not planning to invade Romulus yet specifically because they didn't want to scare the Romulans into the war, and thus the Romulans would have had no reason to join the war early (Presumably, the Jack Pack saw them joining the war in a year when the Dominion began gaining the definitive upper hand and the Romulans realized that the Klingons and Federation were really going down and they would soon find themselves facing the Dominion alone). They could have never foreseen Sisko manufacturing evidence or taking part in a deceptive plot to trick the Romulans into the war, both because their statistics don't deal with minute individual factors, and because even if it did they had no data to say that Sisko would have been willing to do such a thing (It doesn't matter how smart you are, if you don't have the right data you can't have the right conclusions). This is one of the few points in the entire series where one person really changed everything, where Sisko changed everything, and it's a point that they couldn't have predicted.
The main evidence for this is the Prophets' behavior. They go from people who have no idea of Bajor to declaring "We are of Bajor," and performing various miracles that determine the course of Bajoran history (such as when they destroyed the invading Dominion fleet). There's also the sketchy evidence of the Bajoran symbol; when it is standing on end, it bears a vague resemblance to the Star Fleet Delta, with three points and a star. The reason the Prophets' behavior appears so contradictory is because they are operating outside of linear time; this allows them to meddle in Bajor's past as they grow more accepting of their apparent role as gods.
In the TNG episode “The Perfect Mate” an empathic metamorph is someone who not only senses the emotions of others, but emulates their personality to perfectly please whoever they’re with. Rom has displayed this behavior over the course of the series. In the early episodes, he was greedy and misogynistic like Quark, because he spent most of his time working with Quark. In the episode “The Nagus” he tried to kill Quark...because that was what Brax wanted and Rom wants whatever whoever he is associating with wants. As the series progresses Rom becomes more good-natured and altruistic because he associates with Federation and Bajoran citizens. He even goes from being cowardly when faced with death to being brave in the face of Dominion execution, and who was he spending most of his time with at that point? Major Kira. By the time Rom gets with Leeta, the Bajoran dabo girl, he’s quoting Bajoran spiritual texts and wearing the earring like a Bajoran, and only stops when someone reminds him he’s a Ferengi. Rom not only reads people, but he knows how to compensate accordingly.
- I assume she is the one who pulled the plug on the Defiant project after the third or fourth time the ship tore itself apart in trails. So when Sisko was put out to pasture at DS9 he probably harbored a lot of anger at Shelby for it, and then he had to kowtow to Locutus as well.
- Obviously she studied the Federation and Sisko. Discovering that Sisko's mentor and best friend was Curzon Dax who himself was obviously a lover of Klingon culture she felt that using this Klingon tea set would display subtle diplomatic overtures that Sisko would recognize and that would prey on his softer feelings of friendship for Curzon.
- Jake's younger brother marries Tom and B'Elanna's kid, the Kuvah'magh, and the two of them eventually become the head of the church of Sisko.
- God help us all if they get the Sword of Kahless.
- After Voyager returned Tom Paris's holoprograms became all the rage, as did Insurection Alpha. Tom tried his hand at holonovel writing and, though not very good was still famous. Tom scored big when he got permission to make the holonovel adaptation of Anslem (of course the books always better than the holonovel, we all know that). Tom got so famous from that he stopped piloting and turned to holonovel writing full time...unfortunately he was a hack at it and never produced a real hit of his own.
- Buck Bokai and Willie Mayes would be like saints.
- The vedek temples would start ordaining ringers to make their temple teams the best.
- The Pah Wraith Cultists, atheists and half Cardassian children would have to play in a separate, unofficially recognized league.
- I assume the crew of Deep Space Nine would be an official team as well. They would also have to open a league for aliens to play in.
- In fact it would become tradition in the Bajoran sector for each ship to form a team and when the ships come in to dock at DS9 the crews play each other. These games get sent out across space and the ship crews develop sports fan followings and fame. It would become part of the tradition that the Umpire had to be a Vedic.
- A writer who spent his formative adolescence and early adulthood on a distant frontier outpost, played a major role in the Dominion War as a Starfleet correspondent and spy, emphatically rejected a Starfleet career to focus on his writing, turned down the Pennington School on Earth in favor of staying on the politically unstable and strategically important Deep Space Nine, has a thing for native Bajoran girls (He had a of girlfriends over the series and all of them were Bajoran), is a charmer, and a survivor. Is adventurous and the older he gets, the less he heeds his fathers' warnings to the point where his dad has to acknowledge that his son is old enough to make his own decisions... this "kid" has had enough adventures to write twenty books about life on the frontier, by the wormhole, in non-Federation space.
- My theory: O'Brien was an NCO who was made an acting officer first with the rank of ensign and later lieutenant with a reassignment to the operations division. All this was probably due to his distinguished war record. He had a lot of experience that even officers lacked and either Picard, Starfleet or both saw this potential. Alternatively he may have been made an officer so he could direct much younger Academy graduates, as although he had never gone there himself, as his experience and training were still considered assets. This might have been rescinded later in the series after O'Brien had seasoned his students on board the Enterprise, but because O'Brien is an engineering genius and a war veteran, Starfleet Command had a great amount of respect for him, so when his time as an acting officer was over, even as an NCO, he got to keep his officer's privileges, pay (if Starfleet pays, that's not clear), status, etc . My personal theory, and this is based on my understanding of O'Brien's character, is that prior to accepting his transfer to Deep Space 9, he seriously considered leaving Starfleet. In fact, he tried really, really hard to leave Starfleet, but Starfleet didn't want to let him go. He and Keiko had even made plans to move to Earth, settle down in a nice neighborhood in Kyoto, and one of Keiko's relatives would set O'Brien up with a cushy job, and the O'Brien family would never set foot on a spaceship again. Then, Starfleet made O'Brien an offer he couldn't refuse: basically he'd be the highest compensated NCO in the Federation, however it is that Starfleet compensates its officers. All he had to go was travel across the Federation to an abandoned Cardassian Space Station and make it work. And as much as O'Brien wanted to leave, his engineer's instincts took over and he couldn't refuse that challenge. O'Brien even said himself in the series that he was bored on the Enterprise and much happier on Deep Space 9 because something was always going wrong and he felt more needed there. It may be that on starbases, the Chief of Operations does most of that work, and chief engineers are more like starship officers who specialize in Warp Drive and other things a ship would have that a space station or a ground installation wouldn't. So O'Brien having that authority (ordering officers around despite being an NCO) makes sense on a relatively small outpost like Deep Space 9. But given how much I suspect O'Brien wanted to leave Starfleet before accepting the Deep Space 9 transfer, they must have offered him something even better than he got for working on the Enterprise, or I doubt he would have taken such an assignment considering that it involved moving his wife and very young daughter to a politically unstable, highly disputed area of space filled with criminals, terrorists, and Cardassian military paranoids. Think back and remember how unhappy Keiko was in the first season when she and Miles' relationship seemed the most strained... I always suspected that O'Brien had tried to leave Starfleet and Keiko had worked herself up over going home, only to be disappointed.
- I think you're close to the mark here. O'brien started out as an NCO. During the Cardassian war, he probably got a battlefield commission to Ensign (and later Lieutenant after he distinguished himself). He kept this for a time after the war ended. But once the war and the aftermath of it were clearly over, Starfleet gave him a choice of career paths, saying he could keep the commission, and start to take on officer rank and duties (leading to command), or he could keep his current duties and revert back to an NCO. I don't think O'Brien wanted his career to go to command, because it's not what he wanted to do, so he elected to revert to an NCO. All off-camera of course. This type of situation has happened a number of times in the real life military.
- I always thought that accepting posting at DS9 was one of those marriage compromises where everybody kinda got what they wanted, but kind didn't. After having Molly Keiko wanted to leave Starfleet because gallivanting around the galaxy with a child was dangerous, plus Myles had a little person thankless job on the ship. I'm sure DS9 spun life on a starbase orbiting a planet as a somewhat like settling down to make Keiko happy, and he got a real job.
- That could be the case. My theory still pins down the fluctuating rank between low ranking officer/high ranking NCO though. In "The Wounded" (a TNG episode) O'Brien's former captain referred to him as having been a tactical officer. We've never seen anyone below the rank of ensign take tactical, ever, except for O'Brien once to cover for Worf in TNG and later in DS9 on the Defiant at times. Seems like he got a temporary field promotion during the Cardassian Wars and Starfleet decided to let him keep it for a while for whatever reason (I assume his field experience and technical abilities) until later in TNG when he was preparing to transfer to DS9 (which meant losing his field promotion but getting a better job anyway). So he went back to being a CPO and retained all the prestige than a chief engineer would on a starship. After all, Starfleet Academy wanted him as a professor of engineering and he never went to the academy himself.
- In modern militaries it is not unusual for mustang officers (officers that worked their way up from the enlisted ranks) to revert to senior non-coms (usually at an equivalent pay grade) to take certain job positions. O'Brien may have earned a commission during the war (either a field promotion or even a regular one) and was eventually promoted to Lieutenant, possibly soon after transferring to the Enterprise as he is only wearing a single pip in Encounter at Farpoint. He most likely reverted to non-com status during TNG season 2 after he became Transporter Chief, though he continues to wear his Lieutenant pips for some time after this. This may be allowed by the Starfleet uniform code for a variety of reasons. Most likely he started out as the acting transporter chief or was on probationary status until the position became permanent. Until then he retained the option of returning to the officer ranks if he choose or if the new posting didn't work out. Once he formally accepted the position he had to wear non-com insignia on his regular uniform (He may have been allowed to retain his officer's dress uniform, as he again has two pips on his collar at his wedding.)
- Is this why they're green? Oh, little green men!!!
- No, it has to be Leprechauns...the Ferengi!
- Maybe they were the crew of a ship called 'The Gallamite' which had some kind of terrible accident that made them transparent, like the one in the Fringe pilot.
- Unfortunately, since I like that theory, that kind of genetic modification is illegal in the federation.
- To drive this even further: What if all recruits of Section 31 are genetically altered and then raised in such a way? (Is that a case of More than Mind Control by the way?)
- Consider Ethan Locken, who is also genetically altered and whose catalyst for joining was instigated by S31, definitely making this More than Mind Control. Perhaps Bashir was the prototype...
- This is still very possible, although even Federation credits are not normally used on Earth, and are likely provided in limited qualities as "traveling money" to Terrans leaving the planet. However, it is likely that under the New Economic System, changing jobs is not detrimental to material or social status if you are good at the new job, and prominent citizens (which the Bashirs are implied to be, by manner if nothing else) find ways to invest in off-planet capitalism. Credits can doubtless be used to buy latinum, and the exchange rate is probably decent given that the Federation seems to be the Alpha Quadrant's richest and most stable political entity. However, genetic enhancement is probably an entirely different and more obscure sort of black market than Romulan ale or looted antiquities, and a couple of overcivilised Stage Parents likely needed a bit of help finding it...
- Assuming the Bashirs did it on their own, they obviously went outside the Federation, or to a black market which is at least outside the legitimate federation to get the genetic engineering done. Being that credits are an administrative tool and not a currency I don't think you could use credits for illegitimate transactions. BUT being a federation citizen you could have EASY access to get materials that non-federations may find very valuable.
- or, the federation is vast and cuts off a large section of the Alpha quadrant. Meaning over here in sector A is some being who wants substance Y which is rare to the point of non-existence. However turns out substance Y is produced in copious quantities way the fuck on the other side of the Alpha Quadrant. Well since you genetic enhancement dude live in a species that still uses currency you cannot afford such a trip, as a Federation citizen it is no problem for me to hop on a cruiser and travel way the hell over there and pick substance Y up for you and bring it back, and in exchange you genetically enhance my kid.
- Assuming the Bashirs did it on their own, they obviously went outside the Federation, or to a black market which is at least outside the legitimate federation to get the genetic engineering done. Being that credits are an administrative tool and not a currency I don't think you could use credits for illegitimate transactions. BUT being a federation citizen you could have EASY access to get materials that non-federations may find very valuable.
- Political Overcorrectness: Federation makes a big deal of saying "Wormhole Aliens"; Fed never says "Klingon Aliens" or "Cardassian Aliens". The Fed doesn't even say the word "Cardassians" The Federation is too busy rolling on its belly and saying to the Cardassian aliens "Take me big-boy!"
- In this episode
, both Sisko and Bashir call those aliens Cardassians.
- Because "Wormholians" would sound either suggestive, wrong or just plain silly?
- The Klingons call themselves Klingons and the Cardassians call themselves Cardassians, so that's what they're usually called. The prophets don't call themselves anything, partly because it's really hard communicating with them in the first place, so they're given a straightforward descriptive name. If the Bajorans had a name for them without the religious connotations, they'd probably use that.
- They are also literally an alien species, bearing little resemblance to humans in any sense. A similar example is Species 8472, who are simply referred to by their Borg designation. It happens when a species is so divorced from what humans are used to that they don't even have a concrete name for them (and the species can't or won't provide one to them) - they just give it some arbitrary designation that is descriptive in some way.
- Remember, "The Sisko is of Bajor." Now the view could loosely interpret that the Prophets mean "Bajor" to be outside the wormhole. However, given the timeywimey ball nature of their existence and that they created Sisko. Cassidy Yates is pregnant with his child in the finale. Their children and descendants live on Bajor and marry Bajorans. Their prophet-enhanced DNA spurs the Bajorans to "evolve" into the Prophets over the centuries. Since they need to live in the Wormhole they enter/create it. And then they create the Sisko....oh, no, I've gone cross-eyed.
- Makes sense to the extent that the Prophets are a product of a Stable Time Loop. To restate the case, the prophets exist unstuck in time, so they are in the future and the past simultaneously. Yet they can only exist in a limited form outside the wormhole (possessing a human body mostly). Sisko is a human who was chosen as the Emissary instead of a Bajoran. Because Sisko's mother was possessed by a Prophet, when Sisko was conceived he inherited some kind of genetic material from the Prophets. Later in his life, he impregnated Cassidy Yates, another human, and she settled on Bajor. The Bajorans love and honor Sisko and his family (Cassidy and her child) because Sisko is the Emissary. So Cassidy's child inherits some kind of genetic material from its prophet-possessed grandmother, and introduces this into the gene pool of Bajor. Many generations in the future, Bajorans with these genes develop abilities similar to Sisko's (prophetic visions of other realities, other times, vague predictions of future events) and they eventually become the Prophets themselves. The Prophets, unstuck in time, possess Sisko's mother to conceive the Emissary to ensure their own existence, and the Time Loop remains stable. To take this idea even further, because it's a loop, there is no real beginning to their existence. That is why the Prophets have a hard time comprehending linear causality.
- In this episode
- Then what does it mean when he ends up not going? (It seems that the Federation is uneasy about the idea of dying for your art.)
- Partially jossed early on. Jake doesn't exist in the mirror universe because his would-be parents broke up.
(One possible objection to this theory: he seems awfully spry for the septuagenarian he must be by 2024. But assuming a strong constitution and maybe some just-over-the-horizon advances in medical care, it's within the realm of possibility.)
This did not come out in that episode where the caste system was briefly reintroduced because what government figure would want to impose that caste from above?
- If that was true, then why does Dukat stay alive for so long?
- "Dukat" is a fake name. He's a Cardassian, after all.
- "Dukat," rather, is only his last name (His first name is "Skrain" in non-canon sources). The reason he never mentions his first name is because knew about Kira's nature all along.
- Death Note works on humans only. If Shinigami have ways to kill other species, they haven't revealed them. So Kira maybe Kira gave it back when she found it it wouldn't work on Cardassians.
They could just watch Glory if that work survived Earth's Dark Age — which is dubious, given how fragile film is as a medium. But Klingons would want the story retold in the original Klingon and with the original Klingon characters.
Another example: In our own universe, Deep Space Nine exists as a fictional station in a TV series. Quark does exist as a character in this series's narrative and has a bar on Deep Space Nine.
- Isn't the station still in orbit around Bajor in the mirror universe? How does being located around half a star system away from its counterpart affect this theory?
- It can be explained by stating that Quark's bar is the center of the universe. The space station isn't half a star system away from its counterpart. Instead, the counterpart's star system is half a system away from Quark's bar.
In fact, that's why he told them the plan at all. If he'd waited a few hours, then he could have told them "You Are Too Late."
- He may have realized the bomb might kill or injure him if he was close enough when it went off, or that since he's a Klingon killing Kirk in a sneak attack would be very dishonorable.
In "Whispers", the episode immediately following, he's been replaced by a replicant. The replicant drinks a ton of coffee.
Keiko was right. The real O'Brien doesn't drink coffee in the afternoon. It's just that, sometime on the way back from being rescued in "Armageddon Game", he was swapped for a caffeine-powered robot.
- Interesting, but then how does Miles have a (presumably) natural son with Keiko a few seasons later?
- In "Whispers", the real O'Brien comes back in the end.
- Except "Whispers" specifically spells-out exactly where he was when the replicant was made, and it wasn't the planet in "Armageddeon Game". Your theory would have been some brilliant writing, but it's more likely that these episodes were either not originally intended to go back-to-back, or nobody thought of connecting the two.
- Is it possible he was replaced before "Armageddon Game" but after "The Alternate"?
The Book of Peace may somehow be related to the Tears of the Prophets.
- Actually, it was produced by the Cult of the Pagh-Wraiths.
- Eris is really a Prophet, and the wormhole being the gate to something akin to Hell would only make sense from the Pagh-Wraiths' perspective.
- A book from Ancient Bajor with mysterious powers? The Book of Peace is clearly the Book of the Kosst Amojan.
- The story tells how the hero ventured into the "Evil" Prophets' temple and forced them to give him the knowledge of how to release the Pagh-Wraiths.
We know, based on the way Bashir treats Vedek Bareil, that Starfleet medical procedure includes the option of putting a patient in indefinite stasis until their condition can be cured. Now, back in the TNG episode "The Neutral Zone," when the Enterprise ran into the cryogenic satellite, Dr. Crusher and Data referred to its occupants as dead, including those who were revived. Apparently, this applies to modern stasis techniques as well.
Presumably, Joseph Sisko was brought out of stasis during the break between seasons 3 and 4, which is why we don't hear about it on the show when it happens. Perhaps when the Enterprise-D blows up, Dr. Crusher decides to spend some time on research again...
- Don't underestimate Rom.
- Let's not forget that there were distinct hints within the show's canon that Zek was suffering from dementia.
When it was it was discovered that Dominion had infiltrated all levels of Star Fleet,the Tal Shiar and the Obsidian Order,the Federation did not warn the Romulan and Cardassian governments against an attack into the Gamma Quadrant (although they knew it was imminent) and thus ensured that two of their Alpha Quadrant opponents were weakened.Finally,rather than destroying the wormhole and thus preventing an attack on the Alpha Quadrant, the Federation "dithers" and allows the a war to begin w/ an enemy that,it's later revealed to have been manufacturing bio-weapons to combat against.
A conspiracy of dunces? No...a series of actions and misdirections that lead to an intended goal: A confrontation w/ the Dominion
- Closing the wormhole was tried, but a saboteur reversed the polarity and made it too strong to destroy instead.
It was all instigated by the Cardassians to make them seem like really sympathetic pawns; remember that Cardassians are long-term planners; sacrificing the dignity and comfort of a generation, not to mention millions of lives when they rebelled against the Dominion at the end of the war, they've endured horrors eerily similar to what they did to the Bajorans. In the next generation, growing up after the Dominion War, the Cardassians will be the new Bajorans, dispossessed and broken. Then they'll join the Federation, supposedly as a last resort, but this is actually in line with their greater plan: once they've got their foot in the door, they will totally use their superhumanoid politicking skills to take over the Federation Council, and Earth itself.
- That makes a surprising amount of sense.
- And maybe his father's favored punishment of locking Garak in a closet was meant to be symbolic.
- Wait, didn't he have a relationsship with Ziyal? Or are we assuming Cardassian Heteronormative Crusader types, and his bisexuality was the issue.
- Actually, in canon, while Ziyal cared for him, Garak ever saw Ziyal as a daughter, and was even a little puzzled by her affection. However, in Andrew Robinson's character novel, Garak did feel attraction to both men and women and Word of God, from Robinson and writers, who saw him as being omnisexual.
- Both Robinson and Alexander Siddig have said that they both played up the obvious Ho Yay between Garak and Bashir until their storyline started getting dropped when Bashir bonded with O'Brien.
- The problem with this is that Andrew Robinson decided to play Garak with homosexual subtext because he saw no reason that alien species like the Cardassians should follow human sexuality norms by default. On the other hand, that approach doesn't mesh well with the overall paternalistic portrayal of the Cardassians and the already mentioned emphasis on family and procreation.
- Whatever Robinson's thinking, it's perfectly in character for Garak to be a non-conformist in many senses.
- Cardassians do value the family very highly, as a microcosm of society and a bulwark of strength, but like the Romans and some other cultures with this attitude, they likely treat bisexuality and discreet adultery without children (for which same-sex relationships would be perfect) as normative or at least unimportant.
- I am not sure that "adultery is unimportant" is true judging by Garak's reaction to Dukat hitting on Kira in the episode where they accidentally set off the station's old booby traps. "She has no interest in you! A married man!" (said with real venom). It may have just been that he hates Dukat or the indiscretion of it given it was right in front of everyone, but it was one of the few times Dukat ever looked genuinely abashed by someone slinging accusations at him - he certainly reacted more strongly to it than he does to most reminders of the terrible things that happened during the occupation. Could be Early-Installment Weirdness though.
- If we do assume that discrete adultery is normative or unimportant though, this theory can still work with a little modification. Maybe Tain was fine with his son being gay or bi - but not with him publicly declaring his love for another boy. After all, he would still have wanted him to get married and give him lots of little Cardassian grandchildren, even if he was seeing other men on the side.
- This would also explain why O'Brien and Bashir, an Irishman and a Briton, are obsessed with the Battle of Alamo, an ancient event in American history that few Europeans care about even today. Russell would have been imagining things from the point of view of a mid-20th century American, to whom Alamo was much closer both historically and culturally.
- Fontaine is from the 60's, not the 50's. That aside, Word of God has said
there actually was an idea at one time to have a scene at the end of "What You Leave Behind" (the finale) showing Benny sitting in a director's chair in a studio holding a script marked "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine."
- The Fontaine program is officially set in 1962, but nothing in it is particularly 60s, all the elements used in it already existed in the 50s. Also, who's to say how many years Russell spends in imagining the various stories set on Deep Space Nine? Maybe by the time he gets to Fontaine it's the 1960s already?
- Now that would have been... interesting.
- Perhaps 'Vic Fontaine' is actually a real, famous person from the 1950s or 1960s, and Benny is doing the equivalent of Quantum Leap writing in Marilyn Monroe or JFK.
- Or, once we've incorporated the TV show idea above, perhaps Vic Fontaine is a cameo by a 'real-life' (In Benny's universe) singer with the name of 'Nick Montane' or something like that, playing a thinly fictionalized version of himself on Benny's TV show.
How can we know if this is true or not? We can't. Everyone's using the universal translator!
- "Necessary Evil" seems to imply that Odo cannot read the Bajoran language (though curiously, Rom can), which might support this point: Odo would be trained only in the administrative language, Cardassian.
- We do know that the Bajoran language is used in religious rituals, and Rom and Leeta had a Bajoran wedding. Rom could have learned to read Bajoran in preparation for the ceremony.
- "Necessary Evil" was well before Leeta even appeared, but there are plenty of ways Rom might have picked up a bit of the language — all he does in the episode is identify names on the list, so all he'd have to know is the basic rules of pronunciation.
- We do know that the Bajoran language is used in religious rituals, and Rom and Leeta had a Bajoran wedding. Rom could have learned to read Bajoran in preparation for the ceremony.
- We can know this is true because when the Bajorans pray we hear an alien language that we the audience, nor the characters in the show understand.
Specifically, they were modified from the Warrior caste and Ketracel White is based on an enzyme excreted by the Hive Queen caste (which has probably been exterminated). The Worker caste may still exist somewhere for slave labor.
This is just a crazy thought, but it fits reasonably well. Basically, since Ziyal was born the same year that Meru died, my bet is that the death was in child birth or just happened, and that Dukat convinced the next woman he hooked up with, Tora Nepram, to be a surrogate mother for the child. Nepram never told Ziyal what the truth was, and Ziyal was given her name, so the deception was perfect. Dukat never told Kira because he was holding it in reserve to mess with her psychologically (just like how he held off with Meru), but died before he got the chance.
- Or, following that train of thought, more likely Ziyal died before Dukat got the chance, and since Ziyal's death lead to his Villainous Breakdown he just wasn't sane enough. Although, he was evidently sane enough to tell Kira he had been involved with Meru in the first place, so maybe he was still just waiting for the right moment.
- I've had this theory too. But in mine Kira's mother had to assume the name Tora Nepram for some reason, probably something to do with Dukat's enemies. Meru's death was faked in the records.
- Damar's unfailing loyalty to Dukat is probably supposed to be an extension of his loyalty to the state, but it doesn't falter even when Dukat makes decisions that are objectively bad for Cardassia and has literally gone insane and he seems to take insults to Dukat very personally ("I'd like to toss that smug little Vorta out the nearest air lock.")
- Damar's loyalty was definitely returned by Dukat. Not only did he keep him with him, but he defended him several times to Weyoun, most notably after Damar ticks off Kira and Weyoun by saying he'll increase security on the promenade once the Bajorans return to the station. It stood out to me because Weyoun's tone is almost like telling someone to get their bratty kid under control.
- When Ziyal and Dukat squabble, Damar again takes it oddly personally. ("She doesn't appreciate what it means to be Cardassian, she doesn't appreciate what it means to be your daughter." (Emphasis mine.))
- When trying to persuade Ziyal to make up with her father, he uses inclusive pronouns. "We owe it to him to do all we can to help him stay strong." When this goes badly and he reports this to Dukat, Weyoun notably refers to this as a "family squabble," when he overhears it.
- Dukat is not the kind of character to let things slide, yet he not only fails to kill Damar on the spot after he murders his beloved daughter, but later seeks him out for help and explicitly tells him he's forgiven, and Damar is the only positive voice in his head in "Waltz." This could be because of Values Dissonance given what a negative view Cardassians take of treason, but does Dukat really seem like someone who'd let reason overcome his anger over Ziyal's death?
While this theory is ultimately unlikely, it would explain some seeming inconsistencies and deepen the tragedy of "Sacrifice of Angels." At the very least, their relationship can definitely read as father-son even if it's not literal.
I mean, everything about baseball including the ball itself kept being treated symbolically, right?
- Well, he obviously has Prophet ancestors (however that might work), so who can really say? Especially if you note the WMG way up there that suggests the Prophets were descended from the Bajorans in the first place.
- Q is omnipotent but not omniscient. He can change form and hack reality to fit his whims. But the Prophets, while Energy Beings like Q, have a much more Starfish Alien-like psychology, being nearly unable to perceive space and time the way that humans and Bajorans do. It's not a matter of power, but rather a matter of Q being better able to readily understand humanoid life than the Prophets, who are on a different level of perception entirely.
- He pretty clearly displays empathy in The Die is Cast. Anyways, do we really want him to be a sociopath? He's a much more interesting character if he's a normal person with ambiguous morals who's capable of both good and evil.
- It's Section 31's job to be right.
- If this is true, they could have ended the war much sooner. The Dominion ultimately exists to ensure the survival of the Founders, Section 31 offering them the deal earlier may have spared millions of lives (unless they wanted to get rid of Betazed for some reason).
- It's how long it took them to acquire the research by Dr. Wyatt Miller and the research by Dr.Mora enabling them to genetically engineer a version of the Tarellian Plague that would effect the Founders.
- I think I'd rather eat gagh.
- On the other hand the males don't seem to actively hate their females, repressing them only because it's the law and how it's always been done. Nudity doesn't seem to humiliate any of them so it's possible the only reason the males wear it is because they go out in the rain while the females were supposed to stay at home. As for the pre-chewing, it sounds degrading to us but they're an alien culture, maybe that's just how Ferengi have always done things? Many female species partially digest their food when feeding their young, maybe Ferengi just never saw the point in stopping.
- Incidents with Ferengi in Star Trek: The Next Generation indicate that female nudity does indicate inferior status, if not humiliation per se. Also, pre-chewing food is performed only by females for male relatives and partners of all ages. For instance, when Nog goes on a date, he considers it a compromise to refrain from asking his date not to chew his food for him. This suggests that pre-chewing is an act of subservience and not just a means of feeding offspring.
- On the other hand the males don't seem to actively hate their females, repressing them only because it's the law and how it's always been done. Nudity doesn't seem to humiliate any of them so it's possible the only reason the males wear it is because they go out in the rain while the females were supposed to stay at home. As for the pre-chewing, it sounds degrading to us but they're an alien culture, maybe that's just how Ferengi have always done things? Many female species partially digest their food when feeding their young, maybe Ferengi just never saw the point in stopping.
In The Sound of Her Voice, Odo is hassling Quark over some minor code violations, and tells Quark that he must replace all of the barstools because they were supposedly unsafe. Quark is granted a reprieve in the form of Major Kira, who invites him to lunch. After he's gone, Jake comes from out of nowhere and tells Quark, "It's too bad about the barstools, I kinda liked them," and Quark shares his excitement that Odo is distracted. The whole scene suggests several things about Jake.
- Jake is fond enough of Quark's barstools that he laments their loss.
- Kira is taking Odo to lunch, so Jake is hanging out in a bar in the middle of the day.
- The episode makes no effort to give Jake any real reason to be there—and Jake seems an odd character choice for the scene—leaving us to infer that he is probably a customer.
- Jake is the son of DS9's commanding officer, yet Quark is comfortable enough to share with him his excitement that Odo is distracted, and that he intends to use this to his advantage (probably in criminal endeavors). Everything established about Quark's character suggests that under normal circumstances he would never share that with Federation citizens, especially humans; but he doesn't hesitate to tell Jake.
All of this points to a Jake having a drinking problem that Quark is helping Jake keep secret from his dad.
- All of that points to Jake being Nog's best friend and a good friend of the family. After so many years he doesn't need Nog present to be welcome at the bar and he's not part of Starfleet or security so he's got no responsibility to stop or report any of Quark's illegal activities, in fact Jake seems to be better at seeing opportunities for profit than Nog or Rom. As a reporter Jake likes things to be interesting and Quark's bar is where a lot of interesting things happen. Plus they serve more than just alcoholic beverages at the bar, you can get pretty much anything there if you can pay.
- Does Quark really seem like the kind of person who would allow someone to loiter in his bar, even if that person is a close friend of his nephew? Jake is almost certainly at Quark's because he's a costumer, and that means probably there for one of four things: Booze, gambling, holosuite time, or food. If he's there to drink, he'll probably keep buying more the longer he stays. If he's there for the holosuite, why is he just kind of hanging around the bar area? If he's there to eat, why wouldn't he leave after he's finished—and wouldn't Quark shoo him away, he's just taking up space and wasting Quark's time? If Jake's there to gamble, would he really be interested in Quark and Odo's conversation? Quark should be encouraging him to get back to the tables or get out, otherwise Jake's just wasting Quark's time.note Even though Jake isn't a Starfleet officer, he is a human, and he's close to a number of Starfleet personnel, why would he take the chance of Jake slipping up and accidentally telling someone about Quark's plans?note Jake is a reporter, which means it's his job to disseminate information, so Quark's taking a pretty big risk, even if he doesn't give Jake any details.note
- You forget that this is a two-way street. If Quark is taking the risk that Jake will blab about his plans, he also gets the benefit of hearing anyone else's plans that Jake happens to blab. New security personnel being hired? Ship inbound with a rich cargo? Starfleet survey found a planet with rich latinum deposits? Quark is going to find out. Jake is the son of the station commander, and therefore likely to hear about everything that goes on around the station, and he's a civilian, meaning the only entity that can punish him for talking too much is his own father. The only safer source for Quark would be Nog, and Nog would be hearing all of this from Jake in the first place. Besides, Quark probably doesn't want to risk the station commander's ire by banning his son from the bar (not realizing that Ben would probably be grateful to him if he did!).
- Does Quark really seem like the kind of person who would allow someone to loiter in his bar, even if that person is a close friend of his nephew? Jake is almost certainly at Quark's because he's a costumer, and that means probably there for one of four things: Booze, gambling, holosuite time, or food. If he's there to drink, he'll probably keep buying more the longer he stays. If he's there for the holosuite, why is he just kind of hanging around the bar area? If he's there to eat, why wouldn't he leave after he's finished—and wouldn't Quark shoo him away, he's just taking up space and wasting Quark's time? If Jake's there to gamble, would he really be interested in Quark and Odo's conversation? Quark should be encouraging him to get back to the tables or get out, otherwise Jake's just wasting Quark's time.note Even though Jake isn't a Starfleet officer, he is a human, and he's close to a number of Starfleet personnel, why would he take the chance of Jake slipping up and accidentally telling someone about Quark's plans?note Jake is a reporter, which means it's his job to disseminate information, so Quark's taking a pretty big risk, even if he doesn't give Jake any details.note
- If Trek-Earth works anything like I think it does, all activity on Earth is something like this, although with real consequences—your priority for anything contested or otherwise scarce is determined by the popularity and reviewed quality of your work, weighted by provable knowledgeability and lack of likely bias.
- Depending upon how the food is made, it might be that it has to be merely cheap rather than free, in order to cover its own operating costs. If he insists on using organically-grown produce, it probably goes back to being a limited status resource, unless there are also a lot of artisan-farmers out there (could be I guess). This is building off an earlier WMG (not sure if I saw it here) that high-quality replicated goods aren't necessarily available to regular civilians due to licencing and/or energy constraints. Not needing money and not using money are very different things: the first is fine if you don't mind eating porridge and living in a state-provided pod, but...
- using an interpretation of how the 'credit' works in the Federation I see it going something like this: Each Federation Citizen is given X amount of credits which can be used to support specific industrial projects. Everyone gets the same amount of credits. Joseph Sisko used his credits to build his restaurant and put in self supporting agriculture, then he started serving food. You just walk up and as long as he has the food and resources to produce your order he gives you a plate, you don't have to pay for it. BUT if you really like it then you can allocate a credit or two to his project to help expand and support his restaurant. So the 'customers' aren't paying him for his services with money rather they are just putting their share of the resources into his plan. If someone at some point dislikes his restaurant for whatever reason then he would loose some of his resources being used for maintenance or expansion.
- In that case he would probably prioritize 'reservations' based on how many resources a person put in. Which I think is a perfectly ethical 'utopian' tit-for-tat exchange.
- Joseph Sisko himself probably has a bunch of his credits sunk into a nearby farm, with an old farmer family on it.
- So by supporting Sisko's place with your credit, you know you would also be helping to support a local nearby farm.
- Picard's brother refused to get a replicator himself, and Voyager was known to actually save energy growing food themselves. Agriculture probably developed along with else and operates at high efficiency, but is still considered more of an art than an industry. Also, Creole cooking is a well-loved part of human history, it's entirely possible the federation keeps places like Jakes open on an arts grant.
- Alternately, the reason Mirror!Bashir was augmented was because he was a useless slave made useful by being augmented to fight in gladiator like entertainment.
- Quark was a spy, all right- he just didn't know it. The Nagus greased a few Cardassian palms to get Quark onto the station, where Quark- who has no idea of his true role- has ingratiated himself with the station staff as part of expanding his business. All Quark knows is that every once in a while, his mother's new boyfriend drops by to harass him for information.
The Justifying Edit: In real militaries, an informal part of senior noncoms' jobs is mentoring new officers. Starfleet formalized this relationship to where the above ensign is literally O'Brien's inferior (and only O'Brien's; he doesn't call any of DS9's other noncoms "sir").
- Alternately, Starfleet could have a rule that a higher ranking person within a specific department is to be treated as a superior regardless of rank. O'Brien was chief of operations, and the ensign could have been part of his department.
- At least one piece of expanded universe material says that the Ferengi acted so differently in early TNG because they didn't understand the Federation, and thus acted extremely hostile towards them so that it would give them time to understand the Federation (a society that didn't use money, which they considered insanity) so that trade agreements could be reached later.
- Most of the Ferengi we see on DS9 are merchants. Those are the ones that are all about profit all the time. There are MUCH more military-oriented Ferengi out there that aren't nearly as concerned about "profit". The episode The Magnificent Ferengi gives us a SMALL look. They had technology roughly equivalent to the Federation. The non-merchants out there in ships are probably more like pirates (in fact, see the Ferengi pirates 2 centuries later on Enterprise). The Ferengi were in fact flanderized rather severely.
- Or, alternatively, Sarah did die, and there was fowl play involved, on the Prophets' part.
- The hovercraft must've taken an engine hit from a precisely aimed heron.
- She had already been interested in Odo before the Federation knew about the Dominion though.
- When she first met Odo she did become interested in him, she was really curious about what sex with a shapeshifter would be like and she liked his personality. Then Starfleet realized that the Dominion was controlled by the Founders. Deanna's arranged marriage fiancé had run off with the Tarellian plague ship, because of that Lwaxana had always kept an interest in how his attempts at curing the plague were going. In a burst of dark inspiration she put two and two together and conceived a plan...she contacted Agent Sloan and a plan was born.
- Alternatively, Lwaxana Troi saved Betazed by being so annoying to the Vorta they bugged out just to get her out of their hair.
- This puts much of her time on TNG in a new light. Ian Troi may have been an operative as well, or been killed by the Tal Shiar in an attempt to get to her. They also may have taken advantage of her grief over losing a daughter to recruit a well-connected Betazoid noble into their ranks - another reason much of her journal was deleted. The wolf seen in Dark Page might have been the result of Section 31 conditioning; that would explain why an animal from earth (possibly an image chosen by human scientists) was in her subconscious.
Why would Garak bring it up now? Because he's reached his breaking point, after years of living in exile. He might die soon, and Bashir, a Federation officer, is the only friend he has left. When Garak says "I need to know that somebody forgives me," it's the first utterly true statement he's said in years.
- Worf was the first Klingon in Starfleet.
- Worf killed Duras, which was a key event in Gowron's ascent to the throne. Worf accomplished this even though he was suffering discommendation at the time, which history will see as Worf overcoming a huge personal obstacle.
- Worf was friends with the legendary Dahar Master Kor. Together, they recovered the Sword of Kahless (although at the end of that episode it is implied that they never told anyone of this adventure so history may not record this).
- Worf was personally approached by Kahless after he was "reincarnated". It was later Worf's decision that this new Kahless be made Emperor.
- Worf was an important member of the mission to expose the Changeling impostor who replaced Martok.
- Worf was captured by the Dominion, but in a legendary show of fighting spirit, he refused to be defeated in combat. This impressed Martok so much that Martok considered him a lifelong friend from that point onward, and Martok promised that Worf's feats in the prison camp would be remembered in song for all time.
- Worf recommended to Sisko to make Martok the Klingon liaison in Deep Space Nine, which was the most prominent front line station in the Dominion War. This was the start of Martok's rise to fame. Worf then participated in numerous missions as Martok's first officer, essentially serving as an officer for both Starfleet and the Klingon Empire at the same time.
- Worf killed Gowron in personal combat, and Worf himself became High Chancellor for about 60 seconds.
- Worf immediately gave the position of Chancellor to Martok. This is the second leader who was made High Chancellor as a result of Worf's actions.
Martok will also become famous to history as a great military leader during the Dominion War, and as the High Chancellor at the end of the war and the Klingon who led the invasion of Cardassia. Gowron will be remembered less favorably by history because of his scandals during the Dominion War (breaking peace with the Federation because he was fooled by the Changelings, trying to dishonor Martok by sending him on hopeless missions, placing political motivations above glory in battle).
- Worf becomes a sort of conspiracy theory figure of the star trek future. Sure reocrds Kempek then Gowron then Martok, and the era of the returned Emperor, even the Dominion War. But there are some nut jobs who call themselves the House of Mog, sort of the Lone Gunmen of the Klingon Empire. They put it all together, they realize all the dirty dealings and politics and fake emperor's and the also now that it was Worf who choose two leaders of the high council and basically installed the emperor on the throne...some even say he found the sword of kahless. But you walk around and start talking about Worf, well you might as well be wearing your tin foilhat as far as the status quo is concerned.
The theory: Bajorans are tactile empaths, capable of getting a sense of a person's mental makeup by touching them.
- It's possible this was intentional. Star Trek tends to call it "telepathy" and those who have this ability are called "telepaths", not "psychics", but that's what you meant, right? Several species in the Star Trek franchise are capable of telepathy, and to various degrees of proficiency. For example, the Vulcans are stated to be capable of a mild telepathy, and indeed they touch someone if they want to access their psyche (although physical touch isn't always necessary, it appears that it helps greatly). So maybe the Bajorans also physically touch someone to get a mild form of telepathy, and maybe telepathy is something that has to be learned and practiced, which would explain why the clergy are the ones who do it. Even if the average Bajoran is capable of accessing someone's psyche by touching the ear, they might only get vague impressions of thoughts that need to be analyzed, and it's the clergy who has the knowledge and experience to interpret those thought impressions to analyze someone's pagh.
- Garak knows Vreenak's route, and knows how to get him onto the station. Vreenak motions for his bodyguards to leave the room before declaring that the data rod is fake, and in spite of saying that he would expose the deception to the entire alpha quadrant, he apparently said nothing about it, then dies in a shuttle explosion two days later. Two days which would have given him ample time to reveal the deception. And then there's Garak mentioning how the data rod miraculously survived the explosion. I think Vreenak knew the Dominion was bad news from Day 1, but being a Romulan he couldn't take the direct approach. He did what any good Romulan would do: Quietly pull the strings and manipulate events and people to get the desired outcome.
- I assume that the Odan Trill with the rubber forehead and Trill with spots are two different ethnicities of Trill. The forehead Trills were the dominant ethnicity on Trill chosen by symbionts when it entered the Federation and they preferred a policy of secrecy about the symbionts because they assumed if the rest of the galaxy found out then aliens might start wanting symbionts. The spotted trills rose to prominence and preferred an open policy which thanks to some DEFT diplomacy, the revelation was just taken in stride.
- My theory is that Odan was also a temporary host, like Riker in that episode, and had to be chosen quickly to carry out the peace talks.
- I'd go so far as to say that this a virtual certainty. It's been shown over and over again that Ferangi see absolutely no problem with piracy (TNG: ''Rascals, ENT: Acquisition), which along with slave trading and marauding are probably considered legitimate, even savvy, occupations. In fact, Ferengi's capitol ships are commonly known as "Marauders." In fact, Quark finds absolutely no contradiction in his condemnation of Humanity's history of slavery, and the treatment of Ferengi females, showing that they're a little blind to their own institutionalized brutality. Clearly, the Ferengi are willing, even happy, to subjugate non-Ferengi, which is hard to accomplish without shedding a little blood.
- Heck, they even recognize "Eliminators" (hired assassins) in the present day as an apparently legitimate profession.
- To combine this with a WMG above (that Ferengi were once matriarchal, and the current institutionalized repression started out as a kind of punishment), what if the bloody history they're hiding involves a protracted and horrific gender war?
O'Brien says that he was released about a week after he killed his cellmate, which would only have been seconds in real time: they ended the simulation as soon as he did it. And the guard who releases him says that the punishment for espionage is "15 cycles" imprisonment and he's been in for 20 - so he actually held on to his humanity significantly longer than they expected. If he hadn't eventually broken, he might never have got out.
- At the very least, it's probably not a coincidence that the guards started feeding O'Brien again the day after he killed his cellmate. They were intentionally withholding food until he snapped from the lack of it, and then began feeding him again just to rub it in.
- However, when your life is automatically valued less than a parasite that screws with your personality by an organization that sees no harm in lying and letting people die for that lie, feelings of inferiority might be the least of your worries. Who knows how bad things might have been in just before they showed up in TNG?
- Not all Trill want to be joined, though (Ezri didn't); it's a huge responsibility, not to mention that having to partially give up one's own individual identity would be offputting to some. Ezri indicates that her mother is difficult, so her mother's attitude could just be her particular personality rather than reflective of the entire unjoined Trill population.
- Except we've seen Vic shut down and reactivate in the empty holosuite. Chances are, there is a "real" Vic who provided Felix with the physical template for the hologram (much like Dr. Zimmerman used himself as the template for the EMH Mark 1), and it's that person whose counterpart we see in the Mirror Universe.
- He didn't shut it down; his hack activates a program that holographically projects an empty holosuite and masks him. That's why he was so quick to interrupt the other characters and give the "end program" command himself - which a hologram shouldn't be able to do (note that Voyager's Doctor always had to get someone else to deactivate him, at least at first.)
- That would explain Kai Win's saccharine demeanor, need for control and need to discredit Sisko.
- Keiko wasn't unaffected; she became attracted to Bareil. That leaves only Ben.
- In "Return to Grace" Dukat mentioned a Cardassian Embassy on Breen.
- No outsider had seen what a Breen looked like under their suit and lived.
- In "The Changing Face of Evil" Weyoun said intelligence reports that Breen was a frozen wasteland were wrong and it was actually quite comfortable (implying he may have been there).
Taking point 2 with either of point 1 and 3 implies that the Breen must wear their suits at all times, including on their homeworld. If we assume that their homeworld has undergone global warming and that the suits are refrigeration suits, this would explain them doing so. In addition, if we're going to reconcile point 1 and 3 (that the Breen's homeworld was believed to be a frozen wasteland and yet the Cardassians had an embassy there and didn't bother to look at the weather) this would make more sense if we consider the possibility that the place may have been much colder several years earlier when the Cardassian embassy was there (during Return to Grace). By this time, it was already in the middle of global warming (hence why the Breen needed to wear the suits) and seemed warm to them, but was still a frozen wasteland by our standards. Now, it's gotten so much worse that it seems quite comfortable to the rest of the universe and hence the Breen need to wear refrigeration suits to survive.
It's possible that Alt!O'Brien is experiencing the same events of this episode in own universe, but with some different choices made. Alt!O'Brien is somehow returned to the prime universe and is able to stay because an object of equal mass has replaced the missing Prime!O'Brien. Deep Space 9 is destroyed in the alternate universe, & Alt!O'Brien replaces the deceased Prime!O'Brien in the prime universe.
With the destruction of Deep Space 9 in the alternate universe, the Dominion War unfolded and finished very differently.
But, a democracy founded because the military assassinated the ruling monarch of the time? It could easily have been similar to the chaotic period following The French Revolution, which is still calledthe Reign of Terror by our historians. Now apply that situation to the aforementioned Blood Knight Klingons, and consider how much back-stabbing, political maneuvering, and general deciet that goes on in the modern Klingon High Council? Yeah, that would be a pretty Dark Time, even by Klingon standards.
My theory is that the Romulans were the ultimate source of the plot. The whole thing was orchestrated with two goals. 1. Give them a REAL excuse to get into the war that wouldn't make them look weak and as though they were cooperating with the Federation. 2. Have the Federation think they SUCCEEDED in a Romulan style plot, to encourage a cultural shift in Federation policy towards one more similar to Romulan sensibilities. If they can get the Federation to act more like Romulans, that's a blow to their "moral high ground" diplomatic efforts.
- This is a pretty popular fan theory — there's a well-stocked "Autistic Julian Bashir" tag on AO 3 — and I believe Alexander Siddig has commented favourably (or at least not adversely) on learning it was out there.
Quark and Brunt are hardline Acquisitionists, while Rom at one point became a Riverman. Rom was considered a failure among many other Ferengi, including his son Nog, until one day shortly before Nog left for Starfleet Academy, when Rom explained the tenets of the Rivermen, leading to Nog's conversion to their philosophy. Now that Rom has been appointed Zek's successor as the Grand Nagus, the Rivermen are in a position to rebuild Ferenginar, and many Acquisitionists are going to find themselves with the choice to either adapt or to lose everything. Ferengi politics following the Dominion War are going to be very interesting.