The sword is his relic. In one case, one of his successors magically learn his skills by touching his sword.
So as well as Martin the Warrior, we have:
- Matthias (From Redwall)
- Mattimeo (From Mattimeo) Does not count as a reincarnation, because he has had little, if any communication with Martin's spirit.
- Plus he was alive at the same time as Matthias, who was definitely a reincarnation of Martin. This also eliminates Martin II, Matthias' grandson.
- Dandin (From Mariel of Redwall)
- Samkim (From Salamandastron)
- Dannflor (From Marlfox)
- Deyna (From The Taggerung)
- Triss (From Triss)
- Bragoon, Sarobando, or Horty (From Loamhedge)
- Judging by the rest of the examples, none of these three qualify. Some of the main qualifications for being Martin (in all the books that I remember) include successfully wielding Martin's sword, which Bragoon does but Horty does not (he wounded his footpaw by stabbing himself with the sword while he was showing off); getting a vision from Martin, which none of the three get, though Saro jokes about Martin warning her and Bragoon to leave years ago; and surviving till the end of the book, which Horty does but Bragoon and Saro do not.
- Tam (From Rakkety Tam)
- Bowlaynee (From Doomwyte.)
- What about Arven (From "The Long Patrol".)?
- It's just (in DnD terms) a masterwork adamantine greatsword. Its only special quality appears to be cutting through steel, and meteors are said to be a common source of adamantine.
- This theory was basically proven in The Rogue Crew with Uggo Wiltud. Despite being granted the sword, he doesn't gain any special powers, he doesn't become more confident or badass, and he barely even knows how to wield the damn thing properly. He only kills one vermin (by accident) the entire time he's holding it, and shortly afterwards, he drops it. The last novel blatantly stated that it's not the sword that matters, but the beast wielding it.
- This raises the question of how they're related. Martin was the last living member of his family and it's been stated that he had no children.
- Eh. He settles down and hangs up his sword at the end of The Legend Of Luke. Maybe he fooled around with somebody on the side?
- Maybe they're descendents of Gonff? The last one known to exist was Dandin; maybe he and Mariel had kids and one of their descendents came back to the Abbey.
- John Churchmouse grew up in St. Ninian's, where Gonff moved to after Redwall was built. That could make Tim and Tess, and thus Mattimeo and Martin II, descendants of Gonff.
- On the other hand, it's a canonical fact that Matthias is actually Martin himself, reincarnated in order to save the Abbey from it's first Vermin Horde in generations. Martin/Matthias has no conscious memory of his past life, but there are examples of moments where his past self wakes up long enough to encourage him to get back up and fight. Presumably, his original identity as Martin reasserted itself after Matthias died of old age.
- Actually it's not that simple, Matthias is a reincarnation, yet the two exist as separate entities. Since Martin's ghost was active while Matthias was still alive, unless he's a split personality that seeps into other's dreams O_o, and to make it clearer, in Russano's dream showing all the ghosts of the Redwall warriors, Martin and Matthias were there as separate characters.
We know from the second Assassins Creed game that one of the pieces is sword-shaped. Somehow, before his death, Martin managed to unlock the secrets of the sword, and give it simple instructions. Now it protects the abbey, using induced visions to guide prospective owners and torment anyone who threatens the people Martin swore to protect. It also gives free sword training brain downloads on contact.
- The names even match. Good one!
- Word of God says this is true.
Stoat eats birds? HE'S EVIL! Rat is farming peacefully? HE KILLED THE POOR BEAST IN CHARGE OF THE FARM! Fox fishing peacefully? SHE IS DOING IT EVILLY!
Martin was highly racist about "Vermin" because he was 'enslaved' by the bad kind of fox, and he had bad luck and ran into another "Vermin" who he instantly said was evil due to childhood traumatic experience, killed him,and made up a lie to justify the means. He was EVIL. Evil! that's all he had to say! "He was attacking an innocent mouse! what else was I to do then to slay him?"
He came across a Wild cat who was simply playing a "game" of King of the Hill with a castle with a group of woodlanders, fed them LIES about the Wild cat to, again, justify why he must kill her. Using his mastery of speech, which he excelled in after a 'crusade against evil' spree of lies and hatred, he then got his ass handed to him only to survive because of the plot or by whatever deity is sponsoring him.
The stories are all LIES told by the main character, who was told MORE lies to by the Abbey-Beast to fuel the vicious cycle of hatred in Martin's happy little Abbey!
In Veil's case, he was the son of a "Vermin" and therefor treated like crap and probably not fed or taken care of properly; therefore, he 'Stole' food and played 'tricks', which were not for the Evulz but for attention. He is dying; he NEEDS food, water, and friends. In the end, he did something that a beast other than woodlanders from around the Abbey saw, so they could not change that tidbit in the story; instead, they twist and turn the words and actions of the poor little guy to make him seen as people have said 'Horrid little bastard' so if somebeast from that area reads it, they will assume its the 'Real' Story and thus spread the facts. Even though grandpa and Nana were there and they are still alive to tell the tale that they saw him do something for the greater good, they lied just for a good story and Veil was a 'Horrid little bastard'.
Look at other "Vermin" in the story: the odds, the unbelievable feats against them in favor of the good guys, they are IMPOSSIBLE!
This is to embellish the views of the Cult and spread the glorious word of Martin! and you fell for it, hook, line and sinker.
So, who will you be cheering for? The good guys, or the 'Vermin'?
- Um... do keep in mind, that Woodlanders fear and judge vermin for a reason. Namely because they DO do evil things. Throughout the series Vermin kill and enslave whenever they can sometimes just for the heck of it, and for fun. That is "unjust prejudice?" I admit you can't judge all vermin, but Woodlanders don't take any chances, so vermin have to earn their trust before obtaining their friendship, which has happened a few times.
- I think the original poster means, it's a "Hobbit" kind of writing. In the original The Hobbit, the Gollum scene was later retconned to be Bilbo retelling the scene to make himself look better. (Because Tolkien realized when writing The Lord of the Rings it contradicted Gollum's character) The original poster is trying to say that, the books are from Martin's point of view. Though I don't know if s/he is actually being serious or not.
- Redwall takes place in the same universe as Jack?
- Well, Jack does feature Artie working at Saint Ninian's Hospital and reading Redwall to the kids ("I can't read dis book ...") and Farrago claims to have been a female soldier "before the days of guns and artillery". Since reincarnations in the Jackverse seem to share similar names and appearances with their originals, one kind of hopes she's not actually a reincarnation of Ferahgo.
- Adding to this, take into account that Brian Jacques grew up during the period of war-related rationing in the UK; food was in very short supply when he was a kid, particularly sweets and fruit (and what are the Redwallers' favourite foods?) A reliable, healthy, and tasty food supply probably really was very important to him, and thus to the characters he created.
- Either that or, since all the food is fruit- and vegetable-based, it was a conspiracy to get vitamins into his kid readers.
- Though that would only make sense, if the rats were the only ones that grew in intelligence, I don't remember NIMH ever experimenting on Foxes, Moles, Squirrels etc... well, maybe they did?
In the far far past, Dragons, hobbits, dwarves, elves... etc... lived on the Earth, then called Middle-Earth. But the world evolved. The world modernized into a parallel world to ours, where the fantasy creatures still existed but were hidden from the non-magical beings, jump about 2000 years later, a cataclysm caused all the humans and fantasy creatures but one to die out, aside from that one person, all that was left were the animals. The very last human left was the wizard Radagast the Brown who used the most powerful magic to stay young for millenniums. He cast one last spell on the world's woodland creatures to start a new way of life before he passed on.
- OR Radagast turned humans and fantasy creatures into animals as an attempt to save them. Which was successful.
- And/or their conflict was deepened by the fact that female foxes are only receptive to mating for three days out of the year, so the tension for a bout of Slap-Slap-Kiss has a LOT of time to build up...
- Or just insane. Which the book assured a million times over that he was.