WMG / Red Vs Blue Blood Gulch Characters As AI

This page is for all guesses involving the original Red vs. Blue cast being Freelancer A.I.s.

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With the recent reveal of at least a dozen unseen A.I.s with their emotion fragment's shown, such as Trust, Ambition, Happiness, Love, Greed among others, this theory may gain some ground

• Theta is Trust; Sigma is ambition, Omega is Rage, Gamma is deceit, Epsilon is Memory and Delta is logic. The others, however, remain unidentified. It's also worth mentioning that according to Wash in Reconstruction, some of the fragments were unusable and never saw the light of day.

The entire cast are robots with some biological parts, placed in Blood Gulch to test the effectiveness of AIs.

"Ghosts" like Church and Tex (and for a short period of time, Sarge) are programs like O'Malley, with differing methods of possession.

• This is how Sarge recovered from a headshot via CPR.
• This is how Sarge can make Robots so easily, the schematics are already in his programming.
• Also, cybernetics are no big deal; like when Sarge turned Grif Simmons into one. The biological parts were mostly cosmetic anyways.
• Explains how Church in his "robot" body managed to gain weight from lack of exercise and be rendered sterile by Doc's multipurpose doodad.
• Also how they can survive for months/years on Ketchup and Soy Sauce (too salty) instead of water.
• More evidence, Delta in Reconstruction knew that Church would be able to read his message that he left behind in Caboose's head. Also, Washington wasn't shocked that Church was a ghost, he was just irritated that he wasn't told.
  • Of course, Tex came back as a ghost too.
    • The reaction of Washington makes perfect sense since he knew that Church was the Alpha. He explicitly says that Church is an AI and that ghosts don't exist.
    • Except when Sarge was caught in the "EMP" blast, he was perfectly fine. Instantly defusing any possibility that Sarge was an AI.
    • Maybe... but who's to say he didn't build most of the cast? I mean, Church and Tex are out, but everyone else...
    • Grif and Simmons were fine too, Tucker gave birth, Donut mentioned the Red Team's showers once in Season 5. All humans.

The Blood Gulch Outpost was the testing ground for a robot army

In episode 12, Washington is surprised that the red & blue teams were given robot kits. It seems that they were the only soldiers in the Red vs Blue simulation to get them. Wash later states that Blood Gulch was used as a testing ground by Command. It's possible that the canyon was being used to test the performance of robot soldiers, and that Wash and co may come up against the some as Reconstruction progresses. The project may be classified above Wash's clearance, which is why he doesn't know about it.

• Or this was part of the experiments that the Director didn't tell the Chairman. The Red Vs. Blue scenarios were designed to "evolve" a totally new AI, continuously have randomized lesser AIs fight each other and weed out survival traits. The problem for the Director was that while the Blood Gulch AI certainly developed distinct traits, they weren't deemed usable; so they resorted to copies of Alpha instead.
  • Maybe not that much of a failure, given Church's immunity to possession, and Tucker's immunity to Time Stop.
    • Church's immunity was explained in Reconstrucion episode 16 He's Alpha.
    • In Recreation Tucker mentions that himself and Junior are used as diplomats between aliens and humans. When asked why, he says that "we're somewhere in between aliens and humans". His immunity to Time Stop is a result of this alien DNA.
    • He may have been speaking figuratively, referring to him and Junior representing a familial bond between two races. His sword is likely the source of his immunity.
    • Which only leads to another question: why would an alien artifact grant its bearer immunity to Freelancer abilities?
    • New theory: Some Freelancer enhancements may incorporate tech adapted from captured alien artifacts. Possibly confirmed by Season 9, awaiting the revelation of just what's in that sarcophagus with the alien symbols on it.
• The robots were provided because Vic, Omega, Wyoming, and Command were acting as a collective Chessmaster, and knew that Church and Tex would both "die" and need knew bodies.

Every member of the Blood Gulch Blue team is an AI.

Church has been established as the Alpha, but what about the others? what signs do we have for this?Tex: Also a "ghost", and some of the above suggestions bring up other things, such as her ability to build a talking bomb out of a protocol droid and a vibratorTucker: Was able to somehow withstand Wyoming's time shifting powers, and has shown the ability to hear things from an extreme distance...so that he can come running to deliver a Bow-Chikka-Bow-Wow innuendo line.Caboose: So many! A complete idiot, but has the most elaborate mental world you'll ever find. His mental projections of people (The Yellow Church) are able to survive outside his mind on a certain level...Sheila: Is, and has always been known to be an AIFlowers: Came back to life after weeks/months (or possibly 800 years, depending on if the teams' time travel actually occured as suggested). Sure they said the alien did it, but who said the alien was telling the truth?As for the Reds, who knows? They show less AI-like super abilities (except maybe Sarge's constructing crap out of crap skills), so perhaps they were placed in the canyon so that anyone who got curious would think it was more of the normal training scenarios that the other red/blue team pairs have. And perhaps Command put the 4 most stupid/incompetent/apathetic members of Red in the canyon, in the hopes that they would never be able to recognize the Blues as AIs?

• Jossed, at least for the Reds. An EMP went off that destroys AIs, but the Reds were unaffected.
  • Which is odd, since Simmons 2.0 is supposedly a cyborg. Whoops.
  • ...or maybe, that moment was thrown in there so that attentive viewers would realise that cyborgs are not affected, and thus maybe helmet-borne AIs wouldn't be either! *gives coveted Aluminum Hat Prize to above troper* Well-caught, sir!
• Confirmed for Tex, however.

• Church saw Sarge as a "ghost" in Blood Gulch Chronicles. Would that mean Sarge is too? Or are the rest of the team AIs?
  • Not necessarily, there's several different theories about that. Besides, the rest of the team can't be A.I. - Tucker got pregnant, Simmons is a cyborg, Grif used parts from Simmons, and Caboose has vital signs according to Wash.
  • Tex's explanation is probably that she's based on Doctor Leonard Church's girlfriend/wife, which would explain why she and Church got together, though Church's incompleteness spoiled the relationship.
    • Check out the shot of the Meta's AIs in episode 8 and 19. Check out the Steel colored Halo 2 armor AI. Look familiar?
  • The Red Team had one robot kit, the Blue Team had two. Word of God says the number of robots is important…
    • This could possibly mean a member of Red Team is an AI. I vote for Grif being the Alpha's apathy. After all, Church did describe Grif as being "similar to him," plus Grif seems to be able to survive terminal injuries, as evidenced by the mini-montage in Relocated Episode 3.
• Jossed: See this compound image◊ of a conversation between Burnie and another user.
• Sarge being seen as a ghost is finally explained as a side effect of Armorlock/Recovery Mode being engaged.

Sister is the Sigma AI

If only because Sister would make a good portmanteau name (Sigma + Dexter). Of course, this leads to the dubious assumption that Grif is her freelancer. However, this could also explain why she, as a fragment of the original Church, shows up as Yellow Church in Caboose's mind and why Grif doesn't think that Lopez could've killed her. And, um, trying to overdose on aspirin could be considered creative...?

• You're forgetting Doc's examination scenes of Sister. The reactions of Sarge and Simmons at the surveillance screens pretty strongly suggest that the term software is a little more literal than just data. "Squeezing these puppies into the armor could be a little difficult."

Lopez is another AI split from the Alpha.

His true name is never really given, Sarge just gave him one. Without speech abilities, he was unable to clarify his name, so the name Lopez just kinda stuck, as opposed to whatever Greek letter he was supposed to be named after. He has the Alpha's technical expertise.

• Didn't Lopez himself refer to that name multiple times during the series, starting from the activation of the speech unit?
  • He could be a highly damaged AI that doesn't even remember what his true name is. He was put together by Sarge after all.
• The idea that Sarge would have access to an A.I. when the only ones active were bonded to Freelancer Agents is highly unlikely.
  • Could be a leftover AI that somebody lost and everybody forgot about and was found by a red seargeant. The fact that Lopez was built from the ground up from what is essentially scrap supports this.

Caboose is also an AI like Church

Note that Caboose's mind is the one only shown to be explored by Tex and Church. Notice, even on season five, when Tex is trying to hunt down Omega, but waits until it is inside Caboose to jump into his head. She had ample time to jump into Simmons's head, but chose not to. Maybe because Simmons has a real mind that an AI can't hack into, while Caboose has a computer mainframe that an AI can explore. Speaking of his mind, he as unique personalities inside his head that can be extracted. Such as when Church brought yellow Church out. Since the series has done in the wizard, and there are no such thing as ghosts, then there likely aren't figments of an idiot's imagination capable of becoming real. Yellow Church is a fragment AI from Caboose. Also note his affinity for machines (especially Sheila).

• Season 14, as relatively outside of traditional canon as it is, has an expanded version of the Blood Gulch Chronicles episode where Omega jumps between everyone toward the end, and everyone affected gets a small scene of their view of the rest of them. Church's experience is a lot different to the others. And Sarge gets a fantastic, war-torn view of the world where he can gleefully murder Grif constantly.

Since the Chairman stated that there was only one AI, then that logically means that Caboose is another fragment of Church. Likely based on the human Church's best friend. Or he could be the Alpha's self esteem. In either case, it also explains why the personalities are so warped; if Caboose is a fragment, then those things are fragments of fragments.

Alternatively, Caboose is an actual copy of the Alpha. Washington says they can't copy it, though he could've been wrong. Since the series is loosely based on the Halo canon, it is possible to copy an AI, it's just difficult and not recommended because the copy is imperfect and prone to flaws. This explains why Caboose is so stupid, he's an imperfect copy of Church that's malfunctioning.

• That would make so much sense.

The entire red team are A.I.s

I base this on a couple of facts;

1. A.I.s tend to have one personality trait that seems to define who they are. Omega was aggressive, Gamma was deceitful, and Delta was logical. Now take a look at the red team. Grif is lazy, Simmons sucks up to the closest authority figure (defaulting to himself if there's none around), Sarge is a Drill Sergeant Nasty, Donut could be suppressed homoeroticism, and if you count Sister, she could be Libido.
2. Everything interesting always happens to the blue team, with the reds getting dragged along for the ride. This would be an excellent way to tie them inextricably to the plot.
3. Except remember that in the BGC Sarge goes robot happy and turns Simmons into a cyborg and replaces most of Grif's organs with Simmons' making it kind of hard for them to be AI since they are people.

Tucker is an AI fragment.

Specifically, the Alpha's lust.

• AI fragments can't get pregnant.
  Church: He's not pregnant!
  • Junior would beg to differ.

Sarge is an AI.

Way back during The Blood Gulch Chronicles, Sarge was able to "connect" with Church and Sheila after he was shot. We'd learn after Blood Gulch that Church wasn't exactly a ghost. (That also explains what the heck Sheila was doing in a supposed "afterlife," even though she was a machine.)

• This WMG is a very old one, and has been pretty much Jossed by Season 8. When Sarge was shot, he was actually entering recovery mode, which is when the armour locks up to contain damage. Their mind enters this strange state of existance where they can communicate with A.I.s like Alpha. When Sarge and the Reds enter recovery mode in Season 8, it looks just like it did in Season 1 and they are able to talk to Epsilon.

Lopez and Donut are AI's.

I mean, Lopez is obviously one, and this trooper remember read something about robots being delivered to the red and blue bases, that the blue one had one, but the red one had 2, we can rule out Sarge, Grif and Simmons, the ones who are left are Lopez and Donut: Alpha's Depression and confusion

• I don't know where you got this information, but we do know that the Reds received at least three robot kits (four if Sarge cannabalised some parts for Simmons 2.0). Wash implies that the robots were sent by Command and were meant to serve as backups for the Alpha should his current form be compromised. The kits were probably sent to Red Base by mistake (I'm looking at you, Vic), or intercepted by the Reds. The only robot that was successfully delivered to the Blues was Church's original body (presumably). And as for the AI reveal, Epsilon was the last AI extracted, and he is up next for implantation as of Episode 14 - we can safely assume that no new A.I.s will be introduced at this point. It is unlikely that Donut and Lopez are Freelancer A.I.s, and to be honest, another AI reveal would be a bit cheap from a storytelling perspective at this point. Also to clarify Lopez from the Freelancer A.I.s - Lopez, like Sheila, is a "dumb" AI, capable of carrying out straightforward actions like combat or mechanical repair. Robots/"Dumb" A.I.s are a step down from the more sophisticated "Smart" AI fragments, who are in turn a step down from true, complete "Smart" A.I.s like Alpha who are the peak of Artifical Intelligence.
• You have something wrong, the AI's who are going to be (well, by this day already have been) implanted were/are Eta and Iota, even if epsilon is the last one to be implanted, probably we won't see it until chapter 19 or the next season. It feel weird that such a mistake happen, i mean, 3 robot kits to the red base and 1 to the blue base? why not 2 and 2, or all 4 to one base? what kind of AI is VIC? any way, i was just try to come out in an idea of how some Blood Gulch member could be an AI, i dont think anyone who was in the EMP incident back in Reconstruction could be one, and the only ones left are Lopez, Donut, Tucker and Sister, oh and doc...
• It's an interesting theory that has been bouncing around plenty of forums that "X is secretly an AI". I personally don't feel that any more AI reveals of well established characters are coming - we've already had two. But it is a possibility. Also, to clarify, I meant that after Eta and Iota, Wash says he is next for implantation, which we can safely assume is Epsilon, since the only other top Freelancer who lacks an AI is South who never got one. After the Epsilon Incident, no new A.I.s were implanted or extracted - they had become too unstable. Also, I assume that Vic is simply a "dumb" AI. "Dumb" A.I.s that are not properly maintained can develop chaotic or quirky mannerisms, like Vic, Lopez or Sheila. Also, Church was sent to Blood Gulch in a robot body, probably seperate from the robot kits. Maybe the kits were airdropped into the canyon and the Reds got to it first. Or maybe Vic is just an idiot. I'll admit, there is still a possibility that one of the Blood Gulch members is an AI - out of the A.I.s seen at the end of Reconstruction, all the A.I.s introduced are accounted for, plus one extra. If that is Eta or Iota, then maybe the other is in someone else. Or one of them was destroyed in the Eta-Iota Incident. Or they somehow merged. But that is an entirely different WMG.
• Fair enough, i agree with all you have said...well, all you wrote...anyway,after read this and watching the latest episode, i have one doubt wich can kinda make another WMG, here it goes, whats up with the AI impantation, implan....ugh, Carolina went to surgery to get Iota an Eta inside her head, but like, that think she got implanted, was an AI, or the thing the AI's needed to "live" inside her head? because if it is the second option, how does south could get Delta with her in Reconstruction? by that logic, how any bloodgulch member can get an AI without and implant like Carolina and the other Freelancers had?
• I'd only be guessing, but I'd say that the A.I.s are stored in the armour, and the implants she was given were away for the AI to interface with her brain. Pretty much like Master Chief. As for the others making use of A.I.s without the implant, South and Caboose didn't do too well even with Delta. They simply weren't used to an AI and didn't have the special link to boost awareness. As for Omega, I just assumed he was overriding their control over their Powered Armour and projecting his voice from their mics (and mimicking a twisted version of their own voice For the Evulz). Just guessing, but that is kinda the point.

Like Alpha/Church, the Reds and Blues are all Artificial Intelligence.

They all have particular emotions that are VERY prominent over other emotions and none have any of the other's primary emotions, also none of these emotions have been shown in the other known A.I.s. Also, for some reason the first letter of the Greek Alphabet given as a name, after Alpha, is Gamma, then Delta, with Beta being skipped, some theorize that Tex is Beta. But considering there is also an Omega, which is the end of the Greek Alphabet, and if it is correct to assume that the AI's were given their names in order, then there are many unaccounted for A.I.s.

The primary emotions depicted by the Reds and the Blues could be:

• Tucker - Humor
• Caboose - Stupidity
• Simmons - Ambition
• Grif - Laziness
• Donut - Sensitivity
• Sister - Lust
• Sarge - Ego
• Lopez - Indifference
  • This could explain how the A.I.s Church and Tex were able to enter Cabooses mind so easily when the AI implantation was shown to require actual surgery.
  • Their bodies are robotic, with the individual Bases could be entrances into a Virtual Reality, where they think they can removed their armor and be human.
• Season 10 Episode 17 has shown Understatement MANY A.I.s as Tex is going through the data CT left her, many of these could fit the BG crew.
• Can we PLEASE put a moratorium in this WMG and its variations? People have been suggesting it (and smacking it down) for ages.

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