Skwisgaar thinks he is a god as of Fatherklok - could be he's a fallen god.
What does this make Salacia and Offdensen? Satan and God? Could be.
(Okay, this theory could probably be attributed to my sudden speed-marathoning of Supernatural, but hear me out.)
I'm kinda tying this one into the above theory. In "Bluesklok", Dethklok (reminder: the band who can't even shop for groceries properly) managed to negotiate a contract with the Blues Devil (the in-show example of a crossroads demon) that actually got them a 5% return on HIS soul, which freaked him out so much, he was the one who called "no deal" and claimed he needed to "sleep on it" before hightailing it out of there like a bat out of hell (pun not intended). Now, the only person who could have obviously taught or influenced the boys with that kind of skill would be Charles. And, obviously, you don't cheat the devil without being a devil yourself (or demon in this case).
He's a master of negotiation, has sustained life-threatening injuries and DIED from them only to return with no apparent repercussions and only one scar (which has also disappeared, for reasons unknown), has an advanced level of combat skill that, to date, has never been properly explained (short of fanon theories and the whole "fenced in college" thing), not to mention the glowing white eyes in his flashback regarding his own death. He's cold and calculating, but not without a small sadistic streak of his own (we all saw the smirk when he sent the Jomfru brothers to their fate and how often he has the boots put to Rockso "medium" style).
Plus, hey. He rocks the business suit style and has a small contingency of yardwolves, if push comes to shove. Remember who else had a certain fondness for tailoring and his own special hellhound...?
Offdensen may in fact be hiding how much he REALLY knows about the Sumerian prophecy or feigning ignorance on the matter, because he's hoping to make the ultimate deal with Dethklok, if he hasn't already (in exchange for their souls, maybe he gave the band a little...push into meteoric stardom and to get out of their shitty home environments? The staying on as manager is just to keep a watchful eye on his gravy train, or maybe just to partake of the fortune and perks like expensive brandy that comes from that level of fame, who can say?) - I mean, 5 figureheads set to stop an unholy entity, with at least two being directly descended from gods or actual gods themselves? If that's not appealing to anyone in the soul-selling business, I don't know what is. And remember that Charles is ALL about the business. Sure, he's "The Dead Man" now...but what if he was never really alive to begin with? It's not hard to believe Salacia, with all his abilities, could possibly see and observe another demonic or supernatural being (note how he is able to converse with Orlaag on the astral projection plane). But if that being were to die, and thus rendered invisible to his sight...well. It would make him the perfect spy in this world and the next.
Indeed, this may very well be be a contribution to Magnus's downfall - he was kicked out of the band, and his protective contract was made null and void. So he lies low for years, hoping that he won't have pay the piper, per se, while still plotting revenge on both the demon and AND the band who kicked him out and cost him everything. But, then the Revengencers get involved (allowing Magnus to become brainwashed in his obsession), and then he fucks with the bread of the bread and butter.
Magnus had better watch his back next season, as there's no telling what "deals" Charles will have in store for him...some of which may be nastier than just an ass-whooping like he laid down on the Metal Masked Assassin...
- Debatable. Offdensen left Dethklok to fend for themselves towards the end of Doomstar, resigning as manager due to no longer being able to protect them. While he later became the head of the Church of the Black Klok, he probably isn't planning on anything sinister.
The belief that Skwisgaar and Toki can't play slow is a psychological creation, a mental block. They can't play music they consider 'non-metal' or 'grandspas'; but as long as the song is 'metal,' they seem able to play whatever speed they want.
That, or maybe they can only play solos which are a certain difficulty. Regardless, the block is psychological.
- They've proven by mastering stand-up comedy that they can do whatever they want and master any SKILL they need, as long as they think it's metal. Just like Ranma can learn and master anything in two days as long as it's a martial arts form.
- He only ever seems to suggest taking action when nobody else wants to take any, but seems to always be the dissenter when the rest of the group seems to be going towards a course of action ("You think Dethklok could really have an impact on the movie industry?").
- Crozier did help save some of the band members against one of the Revengencers in the season two finale. It's clear he thinks of the Revengencers as bigger threats than Dethklok.
- Variant: The inside man of their Illuminati Fictional Counterpart is Salacia. Dethklok really will cause universal armageddon; for one reason or another, Salacia is out to ensure everything goes just as planned. He may be an Eldritch Abomination.
- The video for "Bloodrocuted" seems to support this theory. Salacia isn't an Eldritch Abomination, but he is the product of Dethklok's own unmatched powers of metal. It may be that the Metalocalypse isn't the catastrophic event Ravenwood predicted, and it's Salacia himself.
- Close, oh so very close, but no cigar.
- Then again, it's Metalocalypse. People get horribly disfigured all the time.
- Confirmed!
- And whereas anyone else might look bad, Offdensen just looks that much more badass.
- Which seems to be gone now, so I propose a new WMG. Offdensen is hiding his scar with...makeup or something, for a future plot point.
- I got it. When the scar reappears, it's a sign Offdensen's in Let's Get Dangerous! mode. Prove me wrong Brendon. Prove me wrong.
- Possible confirmation, an interview said that Charles's missing scar is important.
- Alternatively, Crozier is OFFDENSEN'S father, and the military upbringing is not only why Charles has most of his skills (come on, fencing in college explains the swordfighting, but where the hell does a simple lawyer/financial managed learn hand-to-hand combat like that?) but also partially why he's got some "daddy issues". And yet, why would Crozier attack the Revengencers boy after he shot Charles with the crossbow? Would it not just be easier to just kill Charles himself if he's been trying to kill off Dethklok, after all? Because he was protecting his son, that's why. The problem is that Salacia, having had enough of Crozier's rebellious nonsense, mind-wipes him and makes him a slave, which is why Crozier didn't interfere when the Metal Masked Assassin turned Charles's face into hamburger.
- I'm personally betting on the Salacia theory a lot more, but I admit I also buy this one, especially since the episode Dethwedding seems to suggest that Crozier might be divorced.
- This may have something to do with Murderface's symbol having five lines instead of the expected four.
- Murderface's symbol has five lines because he plays a five-string bass; the images on that set of emblems correspond to the band members and their respective instruments.
- Murderface's status as a sleeper agent due to the events of The Doomstar Requiem may lead this to be true.
They have the same hair and they're both fucking huge, for one; the Masked Assassin wants to kill Offdensen more than anything else, but Dethklok depends on Offdensen for survival. He already knows his past self will fail in killing him personally, so he's doing everything he can to let Dethklok bring about the Metalocalypse in the hopes that the coming destruction will finally get rid of him.
- The Masked Assassin is also referred to in the subtitles as Salacia; mistake, or bonus? You decide!
- [[Jossed. Dethklok kills the Masked Assassin by destroying any trace of him.]]
They both have low, gravely voices, for one. Also, perhaps after the Metalocalypse occurs, Nathan finds a way to go back in time and try to stop it from happening, for whatever reason. That's why he wants Offdensen dead so badly: he knows that without Offdensen, the band is helpless.
- The reason he wants Offdensen dead so badly is because Offdensen more or less completely humiliated him at the end of the first season. He wants to kill Offdensen and destroy Dethklok because they are responsible for the death of his brother.
- I think you've got your deities mixed up. Offdensen might be Balder or Tyr. Both gods of justice and order. Salacia... well, he could be one of Loki's children.
- The only thing is that it would be completely in character for Loki to impersonate someone like a lawyer in order to spread chaos. And Salacia's goal (so far) is to try and stop the Metalocalypse, which would be like Ragnarok to a Norse god, thus making Salacia a force for order.
- This is one of those subjective guesses. Who you think is who really depends on if you think the Metalocalypse will be a good or bad thing.
- But let's not forget that Toki was NOT one of the original five members of Dethklok when the group initially signed their first contract with Crystal Mountain Records. Remember that long-haired bearded guy who is there instead of Toki in the season three opening flashback? It's never explained how or why he left Dethklok. Considering what happens to people in the near vicinity of Dethklok, it's not hard to imagine he died horribly... and there's Balder right there.
- The only thing is that it would be completely in character for Loki to impersonate someone like a lawyer in order to spread chaos. And Salacia's goal (so far) is to try and stop the Metalocalypse, which would be like Ragnarok to a Norse god, thus making Salacia a force for order.
The raw power of the Metalocalypse will turn Offdensen from a Badass Normal into an Eldritch Abomination, and kill or otherwise render Dethklok inhuman. Infused with unchecked powers of Metal and having failed in his only mortal desire (to protect and serve the band), he decides to return to the past in order to learn everything about the Metalocalypse he didn't know the first time around, and seek to prevent it. This is why he punishes Krozier and Ravenwood for attacking Dethklok (remember, he was CFO of the Dethklok company with an army of intensely loyal followers; he doesn't take kindly to being betrayed, plus we know what Offdensen does to people who threaten his boys), why he dresses impeccably, why he doesn't participate in Tribunal affairs except to support plans he already knows won't work (he needs to preserve the timeline), and why he's never surprised by anything Dethklok does (he remembers it all). It may also be why he specifically tells Crozier he's not allowed to go to the United States Pornography Awards — primarily he wouldn't want Krozier to go to the awards ceremony and interact with Dethklok, but the same phrase is used by Nathan when he was describing why he couldn't go.
Unfortunately, he's still a horrible monster borne of metal with a mind twisted by endless time, grief, and unfathomable power, so his solution to this problem is to simply absorb the band at the proper time. That way the band will live on inside him, and he'll have the power of two Metalocalypses to protect them with.
- At some point in the future, Nathan Explosion's vocal cords finally gave out from God knows how many years of speaking in his Deth Growl, resulting in Salacia's voice.
Salacia is just highly receptive to the Power of Metal, or at least he used to be. Hearing Dethklok's music instilled him with its power as a kid, causing several physical changes in him and giving him powers beyond mortal ken; he's working to ensure Dethklok's survival into the Metalocalypse because he wants to kill them and take the rest of their power for himself, possibly as revenge for ruining his mortal life.
- But he's visibly older than all of Dethklok. How would he have heard them as a kid if he wasn't from the future?
- Perhaps he's younger than he looks?
- He has Progeria, the rapid-aging disease.
They've gotten this far without killing themselves. That's really all the proof I need. But specifically, they all manage to do things that would kill or incapacitate your average human being. Most people couldn't survive the sheer number of liver transplants Nathan's had. Pickles probably hasn't been fully sober since the '80s, is immune to the long-term negative side effects of drugs, and he's still around. Toki survived his childhood in Norway and didn't die in the tank in the second episode (after one of the crew said specifically that he would die without the safety briefing; he didn't get it, and he's still kicking). Skwisgaar has been in a variety of interesting car crashes and tons of (probably) unprotected sex, and he's not only alive, but clean. And Murderface... well, he lived through Religionklok.
Also: Duane's rival in the Home Movies episode "Guitarmageddon" (hm... Guitarmageddon... Metalocalypse...) is made to resemble David Lee Roth. He grows up to become Dr. Rockzo.
- This would also mage their manager Nyarlathotep or an expy of him, since his role would be analogous to that of the messenger of Outer Gods. The fact that he seems to be pretty much indestructible would seem to support this.
- Alternatively, the band members are humans, but the manager is a Eldritch Abomination, using them to bring about the end of the world with apocalyptic rocking.
- Alternately, the band are a group of Eldritch Abominations who have taken human form because they wanted to STOP creating Cthulhu-esque levels of revelry in favor of just playing music and having a good time...Unfortunately they're really bad at not spreading madness and destruction.
- It explains his disproportionate loathing for Offdensen (who had nothing to do with the death of his brother), but not Dethklok themselves, his ability to stay hidden from any and all surveillance (including Mordhaus', which is at least as sophisticated as the U.S. military) and his wardrobe. All he had to do to pass for a Klokateer was put on an executioner's hood; while that may or may not be the kind of thing that is sold in ordinary stores in the Crapsack World of Metalocalypse, it's possible that the Masked Assassin already owned one. And he definitely LOOKS like he went on a few tours with the band; if he was ever a Klokateer, he may well have been left for dead at some point, but survived, and instead of returning to his work to continue under an uncaring manager, he decided to pursue an ambiguous career in torturing people in a creepy bathroom. Losing his brother to perceived workplace negligence was the last straw.
It'd explain a good deal - not only how Offdensen learned his moves, but also how Crozier knew to warn Dr. Rockzo not to fuck around with him. As to why he's not with the Ops anymore... I'd say it was due to a botched assassination that ruined his reputation, an error actually set up by a very jealous partner - a man who would quit on his own terms later and become a gun for hire, never losing his enmity of Offdensen, and would be known to us as the Metal Masked Assassin.
A last-line of defense in case Finland was ever conquered, hence the need for songs to awaken and pacify him, especially with the line "Take the land that must be taken". Basically, if you get invaded, you summon the troll, you leave, and you let your enemies play with him. When you come back, you play the lullaby and get to rebuilding your country.
When the troll is awakened it destroys the electricity and the internet in Finland. Plus, all it took was one little phone to be thrown into its mouth for it to tear out its tongue and guts in an attempt to remove the phone.
- Quoted from the main page under Bilingual Bonus: "Ofdensen (correct spelling) is Danish for "Son of the House" or, literally, "Homeboy"."
- Lavona Succuboso (and presumably her followers) is German, and she is voiced by Angela Gossow. The fashion designer was also German. Not sure if either of these count as solid representation, as they are a minor and a one-off character.
- That's why I said not until the second season. That still leaves a dearth of German representation for the first season.
- It's also possible that this was Salacia's plan all along, especially if the WMG that the Metal Masked Assassin is future!Salacia is true. He only does enough in the Tribunal to keep Offdensen alive until the appointed time of the Metalocalypse where his past self beats him to death.
M.H. is most likely The Pete Best of Dethklok, he either got fired of quit before Dethklok got popular, and now that it is, even after what's happened to it, he wants either in on the action that he abandoned or revenge on the band that kicked him out-especially his replacement, Toki.
- Or, in fact, his revenge has already begun. He is, in fact, Salacia.
- Or he is Salacia, but he faked his death so he could be a double agent for Offdensen.
- Or he got buffed up and became the Metal Masked Assassin. No other reason behind this line of thought other than the jaws and chins (or at least what can be seen of M.H.'s chin) look the same.
- That would explain why he initially went after Toki and Skwisgaar in "The Metalocalypse Has Begun". He was out to get Toki specifically, and Skwisgaar just happened to be along for the ride. Then, of course, Offdensen intervened, and we know what happened next.
- Or between then and now, he somehow died.
- Yeah, but where's the fun in that?
- Sorry, it had to be said.
- As of "Dethcamp", possibly Jossed.
- Although it sure seems like he intends to win Toki over to his side to manipulate him against the band - after all, what better way to do that than to save his life?
- Or, in fact, his revenge has already begun. He is, in fact, Salacia.
- Confirmed! Specifically, he befriends Toki, but was really working with the Revengencers, and helped the Metal-Masked Assassin kidnap Toki.
- Could be, but based on a concert review on Dethklok Minute, where the reporter talked with Brendan Small for a few minutes, I'm more inclined to believe Brendan was just fucking with our heads.
- This is the above troper disputing the WMG, I'd like to rescind that dispute. Brendon's put so much emphasis on the third season being called 'The Dead Man' that I'm starting to wonder if Ofdensen is really alive...or a vampire or something.
- Answer: Kinda confirmed. Offdensen did literally die because of the actions of Season 2, putting himself straight into the prophecy as The Dead Man.
- Possibly legal reasons for the extra F?
- Either or. To be honest, this WMG is in place to justify the continued use of 'Ofdensen' now that 'Offdensen' has been deemed canon.
- And now we've gotten an 'Offdenson spelling (caught by sharper eyes than mine). I'm beginning to think it's Offdensen deliberately misspelling his name, to keep people from his true name, if the whole "Offdensen is Loki/Balder/what-the-fuck-ever" turns out to be true.
Skwisgaar is undoubtedly better, but look at the differences between their behavior. Skwisgaar is practicing constantly, and has been for years. His paranoia that Toki is actually better than him that drives him to insult Toki so severely, and added stress makes him practice more fervently. Take note that he is dismissive of everyone's guitar playing, and treats others as insignificant even if they believe themselves to be or are considered any good. If he believed Toki to be the same way, even the idea that he was getting better would have been ignored or laughed at; IE: it wouldn't have been the nightmare-inducing situation that it was. Skwisgaar didn't even bother to hide his feelings with sarcasm, he went straight onto the attack and did everything in his power to either stop or get rid of Toki before he could progress any further.
Considering he's gotten so far doing nothing, if Toki actually buckled down and began to practice, it's not hard to imagine that he'd surpass Skwisgaar's skills; just as seemed to be predicted by the lead guitarist. Whether Toki would canonically actually do this, much less really attempt to completely surpass Skwisgaar, is up for another bit of WMG. But the possibility that he could if he would allow himself to is there.
- Considering the fact that in one episode in Season 3 or 4, Toki asks if he can play the solos for once, and Skwisgaar declines Toki's request, because he "never practices", and the fact that Toki can easily keep up with Skwisgaar, it would seem that Toki is actually a much better guitarist. The only reason he's not the lead guitarist is because he's too nice to usurp Skwisgaar's role, which is exactly what would happen if Toki actually practiced for just a few minutes every day.
- If Nathan was behaving differently than he normally did, I would say you had something; but Dethklok is pretty notorious for having a child-like "I'll do it myself!" mentality when it comes to things (the whole premise of their PR company being a nice example). I didn't see it outside of normal behavior for them to take over a role as manager. And, beyond that Dethklok, and Nathan in particular, are always resistant to whatever they don't think is metal or an idea which will make it so that they can't do whatever they want. Regardless of whether he believed that Offdensen was alive or not, I still think he would have reacted just as vehemently against such a rigid contract.
- I think the somewhat lackluster, non-pissed-off way he asked where he'd been the last nine month is what clinches it for me. I would probably guess that it was more like Nathan didn't believe Offdensen was dead rather than knowing he was alive the whole time.
- This is possible, considering the amount of characters that appear to have died but show up again, alive and mostly unharmed.
- Or possibly, Pickles only meant to be a temporary replacement drummer, and while Dethklok has been looking for a new drummer, found Toki completely by accident. So Pickles ended up permanently on drums, though he might not have originally planned to. It happened to Franz Ferdinand, why not Dethklok?
- Seems to be Jossed as of "Dethcamp". Pickles was behind the drumset during Magnus' tenure in the band.
Toki's love kills people; he was a Dethklok fan before he joined the band. He went to one of their concerts and his love for the band would have caused their deaths, except that the five destined members of Dethklok are supernaturally protected from such things. The only one who wasn't immune to the effects of Toki's fandom was the rhythm guitarist, who died horribly, freeing up the spot in the band's roster.
- I agree with you on everything except one word: "first". If Toki really does have a death curse, it's probably been in play since birth and is one of the reasons he was treated so cruelly by his parents. Frankly, I'm surprised Anja didn't die in childbirth and become the first victim.
- Officially Jossed by "Dethcamp".
Hold that thought.
Because he felt threatened by his talent; Skwisgaar looks a lot younger than M.H., and may have had much less experience and practice playing the guitar back then. Killing him and signing Toki on would stabilize his ego and create less friction. The rest of the band either doesn't know, or is just happy that Skwisgaar isn't psychotically jealous anymore; Offdensen knows, but he will never do anything to compromise Dethklok's success, and so covered it up extremely thoroughly.
- Officially Jossed by "Dethcamp".
- It's because Anja and Aslaug know about Toki's death curse and believe him to be evil. Toki's mother died under unusual circumstances — not right when he was born, but sometime after he'd actually developed enough brain power to consciously love her. Knowing this, and being able to recognize the signs of that manner of curse, they took him in specifically to purge that evil out of him (hence all the horrible child abuse).
- Ooh, or a defense mechanism. Can't kill what you don't love, after all. Not through the curse, anyway. Too bad it backfired in Dethdad.
- I'm not discounting the possibility that they ARE related though, Toki has similar eyes to one of them, I can't remember which. They could really be his grandparents.
- Turns out I'm wrong. Anja and Aslaug have dull grey eyes, Toki's are ice blue.
- In the preview for the rest of season 3 it shows a young Toki alone in the snow pushing Conan's Wheel. Conan was sold into slavery at a young age. Coincidence? You decide.
- It's because Anja and Aslaug know about Toki's death curse and believe him to be evil. Toki's mother died under unusual circumstances — not right when he was born, but sometime after he'd actually developed enough brain power to consciously love her. Knowing this, and being able to recognize the signs of that manner of curse, they took him in specifically to purge that evil out of him (hence all the horrible child abuse).
- Believe it or not, actually somewhat implied. FatherKlok implicated that Skwisgaar is divine, and gods tend to have other gods as parents. Look at Cronos. Or Zeus.
- Another theory, what if his father is Salacia? And if he takes power after the Metalocalypse, which is what he wants all along, what if he offers Skwisgaar a seat of power on the throne?
I base this solely and entirely on the fact that Skwisgaar isn't wearing a skull belt in the season 3 episode with the band in its early stages, and MH is. It would be a subtle thing for Skwisgaar to start wearing a skull belt in memory of their previous rhythm guitarist, and so his hatred of Toki isn't just because he's jealous of Toki's natural talent versus his hard work and constant practice, but because he doesn't think Toki is an adequate replacement of MH.
- Perhaps they were close, but Skwisgaar doesn't really hate Toki. Whenever anyone is really looking to hurt him, it's Skwisgaar who puts a stop to it (note when Pickles starts talking about killing Toki, it's Skwisgaar who very adamantly disagrees); and not to mention that Skwisgaar seems to go out of his way to be with Toki (how many times are they off to the side and talking without any mandate at all). I think more of his treatment comes from a fierce paranoia of losing his rank and acting like an older brother, more than real hatred. If he did resent Toki, he got over it.
- They all hate each other; it's just that love and hate are more or less the same thing to these guys.
- Alternatively it's possible that Toki resents M.H. because he THINKS that Skwisgaar liked M.H. better. Sort of a strange sibling rivalry sort of thing.
- They all hate each other; it's just that love and hate are more or less the same thing to these guys.
- Part 1 Jossed as of "Dethcamp" - Skwisgaar (and the others, except for Nathan) were actually terrified of Magnus Hammersmith during his time in the band. Part 2 basically inverted - the reason why Skwisgaar basically tramples and discourages Toki is to keep him from developing the ego that Magnus displayed during his time with them.
He was forced out of the band by destiny; his ultimate revenge will be to devour Dethklok and claim its eldritch power as his own, as he believes it should have been all along.
- Officially Jossed as of "Dethcamp".
After going through years of being teased and bullied by Shannon, he moved away from everyone he ever knew and loved, went through training from Hell, and changed his name. His movie making career never really took off, but he developed an incredible amount of management skill, and his positive associations with Duane and Scäb as a child drew him to the metal scene. His hair color darkened as he grew up, but his voice stayed almost the same.
- Jossed if you count Clarence as canon, in which Brendon is shown working as a regular jackoff video store clerk...besides Andrew doesn't really have strong hands.
What's more is that Salacia KNOWS this, which is why he loathes the clown as much as anyone else. (Apart from the fact that he's Dr. Rockso the Rock and Roll Clown who Does Cocaine.) He is unable to kill him though, for fear of upsetting the prophesy, showing his hand early, or having something else step into that role. He has to be satisfied with making sure that Dr. Rockso the Rock and Roll Clown is distracted by doing cocaine.
Any good eschatological story always comes with forewarnings. Like Revelations foretelling the Apocalypse, the songs on both Dethalbums allude to the end of the Metalocalypse world.
1) The first Dethalbum centered many song lyrics around water and thunder, the most obvious being "Go Into The Water" "Thunderhorse" and "Murmaider". "Awaken" also tells of summoning a monster from beneath the water and "Bloodtrecuted" also alludes to electricity. One interpretation is the Metalocalypse will begin with water, lightning and the summoning of mythical creatures.
2) The Second Dethalbum deals largely in fire and earth. Among tracks like "Burn the Earth", "Black Fire Upon Us", "Volcano" and "Comet Song", there is an allusion to fiery destruction. Also on Dethalbum 2, there is an allusion to the death and usurping of divine posts (A la "Murmaider 2" and "I Tamper With The Evidence At Odin's Murder Site.") One Interpretation is that Dethklok will leave their monsters to rule earth while they ascend to do battle with gods.
This would make Nathan an unconscious prophet who unwittingly tells of the end of the world.
- Can someone who knows about Biblical mythology confirm or deny if this corresponds to any of the Four Horsemen in any way? Cause if it does? I think we've stumbled on how many seasons there will be.
- Or there may be five, as the points on a pentagram.
- Confirmed by "Church of the Black Klok."
- ...which, in the future, led to Tucker saying the line "Man, poor Florida".
- As a Troper who's living here as of right now, I can tell you it's pretty much STILL like this. And yet, still the best damn governor we ever had.
- That's nothing new though. Generally the first half of a season is mostly gags, while the second half touches the Myth Arc of the series. As for Skwisgaar dying, it's plausible, but it'd be really ballsy of Brendon Small to do that...unless Skwisgaar was a Red Herring and M.H. was meant to be the fifth member in the Metalocalypse all along. Either that, or he'll be Put on a Bus, and become the Chekhov's Gunman for Offdensen.
- If Skwisgaar dies, then why does the face in his corresponding icon coin look like him?
- That's why I'm more inclined to go with my Chekhov's Gunman theory. Then again, Status Quo Is God. It doesn't matter about everyone else as long as Dethklok remains alive, safe, and together. Look at Black Fire Upon Us. So Skwisgaar's probably fine.
- If Skwisgaar dies, then why does the face in his corresponding icon coin look like him?
- Jossed. Skwisgaar lives, comes back with the band, and now thinks he's a god.
- Episode 45 (or 305, if you prefer) IS called "Dethdeath", according to the AS wiki. "Fatherklok" is actually episode 47, which merely got produced and aired before 45 and 46. Someone on Wikipedia got the two episodes confused and combined their descriptions.
- There was never any "Dethdeath", that was someone putting false info on the Wiki.
- And the Metal Masked Assassin's job was to prevent that from happening, which is why he went for the weakest one: Offdensen.
- More of less Jossed, Offdensen and Salacia have their own roles in the prophecy.
Skwisgaar inherited his talent and dedication to practice from him; plus, the shock on Dimneld's face in Dethlessons is a little extreme for someone who's just surprised at a Dethklok member showing up at his house, considering he's been giving one of them guitar lessons already. They also have fairly similar hair, allowing for some aging on Selftcark's part. Also, the guitar headstone on his grave is Skwisgaar's guitar, not Toki's V.
- I'm sure somewhere, Artistic License – Biology would come into play, but that's only if they intend to repopulate the planet further.
- Divine beings don't have to follow the same laws of genetics and inbreeding as us mere mortals. Many creation stories have an entire pantheon of gods descended from a single being.
- And not necessarily through sex. Athena emerged fully formed from within Zeus' head and Venus is the result of Uranus' genitals being thrown into the sea.
- Divine beings don't have to follow the same laws of genetics and inbreeding as us mere mortals. Many creation stories have an entire pantheon of gods descended from a single being.
- To me, that says more about Offdensen than Skwisgaar; IMHO, it sounds like Offdensen lost his father at some point in his childhood and he just remembers his hands.
- Hesitation may usually equal dishonesty, but in Offdensen's case is like his own very subtle little Verbal Tic. He can barely get through even the most simple sentences without doing it at least once.
- The emphasis on that bit of exposition fits in with the possibility that Salacia himself might be Offdensen's father.
- "...But only got pregnant once"? Unless she has multiple eggs in her womb, she can only have one pregnancy at a time, no matter how many men she slept with. There Can Be Only One.
- I actually meant that realistically, considering all the men she sleeps with, she should have hordes of children, like Skwisgaar does. Instead, Skwisgaar is an only child.
- Or, perhaps after giving birth to Skwisgaar, Serveta took preventative measures (birth control, tube tying, etc) to not have more kids (and knowing her, it was probably for superficial reasons like not wanting to ruin her figure). It's probably for the best that she didn't have any more kids besides Skwisgaar too.
Toki: Toki was conceived by a mortal woman (Anja) from a god - seduction or controlled her, or something. Aslaug didn't leave his wife because their religion forbids it. Hence all the beatings, because a child born in wedlock is a child of sin, and needs to have it beaten out of him. His father is the god of death, and Toki keeps killing people because he doesn't know how to control his powers.
- Perhaps Toki's father is the ancient Norse god Orstaag the Tooth Collector.
Pickles: Pickles is the "red-haired step child". A god seduced Molly and had her bear his child. If Pickles is the eldest, Calvert resents Pickles for taking Seth's rightful place as first born and heir. Molly still kind of loves him because, let's face it, it's still her kid. The results of being the son of a god are an unnatural immunity to drugs and poisons.
- In a discussion of Dethklok and godly counterparts, this Troper once heard Pickles compared to Dionysus, who according to Greek myth, invented the process of making wine - in his youth no less. Also note that in the upcoming episode, 'Breakupklok' after quitting the band Pickles is attempting to open a vineyard, with the intent of making the most alcoholic wine in the world. Dionysus is pretty much the Greek God of partying and getting wasted, so Pickles as a god of wine and ecstasy? That seems to fit pretty well.
- Also, tying Pickles to Dionysus, Dionysus is often depicted in two ways: As an older bearded god, or a beautiful androgynous youth. Compare Pickles as he appears as a member of Dethklok, and his appearance in his Snakes N' Barrels day.
Murderface: Murderface's mother was seduced by a god. It took her some time to work up the nerve to tell her husband that it wasn't his child, which infuriated his father so much he killed her, and then himself. He spared the child either because he wasn't crazy enough to kill a baby, or it was the god's influence. I mean, Murderface should have died when he drank the bleach, and should have died when he fell off that motorcycle, but he didn't. Clearly there's something going on to keep the boys from killing themselves. Also, Murderface is the son of a wolf god. He pees everywhere because his instincts are telling him to mark his territory as often as possible.
- Alternatively, Murderface could be a god of war or bloodlust. He revels in being a jerk and pitting people against each other (even said he admired this trait in Twinkletits). He has said before that it's hard for him to suppress the urge to ruin other people's lives. The other band members have marveled at how talented he is at just being a complete dick and driving people apart. Also, there is his fascination with "Morbid Crap," and notably his obsession with the Civil War. He incites extreme hatred in those around him, so much so that the band greatly suffered from a lack of darkness in his absence, as Pickles, Skwisgaar and Nathan worked together too cohesively and productively without him. These powers may have manifested unknowingly while he was still an infant, perhaps even driving his father insane with hatred and bloodlust, to the point of murder/suicide.
- Additionally, despite his need to ruin lives, Murderface is constantly seeking out authoritative roles and positions of power, such as attempting to place himself as head of the band claiming he is the lead song writer to the media (a blatant lie that he is called on). This is also seen in the season two finale when he placed himself as Band Fire Chief, as well as in Dethgov when he immediately volunteers as Head of the National Guard. This could be another facet of the War God persona, that is the idea of war as conquest. Unfortunately for Murderface, this completely clashes with the hatred he inspires in others towards him.
Nathan: There are two ways this could have gone down. Rose never actually told Oscar that Nathan wasn't his son, she just took one look at baby Nathan and explained away as her being Native American on one side. Or, she did tell Oscar, and he was a man about it and decided to forgive his wife and love Nathan like his own son. Nathan's voice is the outlet for his powers.
- I've got a third idea. That particular god took on Oscar's form while the real Oscar was out drinking with friends, had sex with Rose, and then left, saying he had to do something. Meaning Rose had no idea she wasn't sleeping with her husband, and presuming they had a healthy sex life before Nathan was born, no one would have been the wiser about Nathan's parentage.
- This would line up pretty well with, to borrow from Greek mythology, the way Hercules was conceived. His true father was Zeus, who took the form of Alcmene's husband to trick her into having sex with him. When her real husband came back from the war, he realized what happened but was very forgiving about everything and treated the kid like his own. Also, if you were to compare Nathan to any character from Greek myth, it would have to be Hercules. They both have that "quarterback" thing going on.
- Judging by how he has visions of the Sea Prophet, he could be the son of a Water God.
or...
He's just had that nickname for so long, he and everyone who knew him as a young child has completely forgotten; it's a very traditional Irish name, and Pickles is occasionally linked with snakes and snake imagery.
Based on personal experience. I have a nephew named Dylan. The usual nickname is Dill, but guess what his grandmother called him at his last birthday party?
He had it legally changed as a Take That! to his family when he left home; he changed it to Pickles because he thought "Cinnamon Buns" sounded too much like a porn star.
Murderface - Earth; he's into sandscapes and coprophilia, is most often seen cutting into wood things, and has more trouble than the others with things that aren't tangible and concrete (even if he occasionally waxes philosophical.)
Toki - Fire; he "burns" everyone he loves, and... well, we've seen his temper. And, children love to play with fire.
Skwisgaar - Air; this one is obvious. In his videos, his guitar makes him fly, his spirit animal is a bird, and he's always surrounded in white, even in a death metal band.
Pickles - Water; he's immune to poison, his spirit animal is an octopus, and he somehow manages to be the most emotionally fluid of the lot and doesn't bottle anything up (even if he tries to drown his problems.)
Nathan - Metal. He's solid, inflexible, and just intimately connected with his music — which is metal. This will make him the true harbinger of the Metalocalypse.
- These alignments can be applied (to varying degrees) to the music video at the beginning of Dethwater. Toki dies by fire, Murderface is a gravedigger, Pickles gets his head kicked through as if it were liquid, Skwisgaar resides in a high tower, and Nathan, the fifth element and thus the one above all others, slaughters them all.
As for the badassery, Austria may not be the most action inclined guy, but the Austrian military certainly was not made of pansies. He simply took a few fighting classes in order to deal with the inevitable threats a band as big and brutal as Dethklok would have to face.
And now for a new question - how deep does Alfred/America's knowledge of The Tribunal go?
- Salacia is an aged Prussia, trying to get back his former glory by any means necessary. Including making a deal with something to get the powers he's exhibited so far. He wears contacts because red eyes are an obvious sign that something ain't right. The reason Offdensen/Austria has to resort to using Dethklok to stop him is no one believes him when he says Prussia's still a threat. Incidentally, this makes the Prussia=East Germany WMG less likely to be true.
- Or both are true, but Austria and Prussia are teaming up secretly to stop a third power-Russia. Unlikely, since they're perennial enemies, but again, if no one else believes them, they have no choice but to become Enemy Mines.
- Oh, and to answer your question: Alfred wouldn't know much. If he did, he'd push for a more pro-active and American-centric means of attack.
Some will point that the bands music and actions are exceedingly violent. I agree, but look at the organization they have built, five people and Offdensen have built an economy that rivals nations and when the band is threatened, their fans and klokateers sometime display both a proficiency for cooperation, and willful self-sacrifice. The band's role in the Metalocalypse is to avert it/end it/lead mankind through it. The more ignorant the band remains, the more likely the world's destruction in the Metalocalypse.
Mr. Salacia's recent activity is spurred by the actions of the Metal Masked Assassin. The MMA and his organization was something not foreseen by Salacia. Now that his plan of non-interference have been shattered by outside influences, Salacia prepares to do battle.
He was gone for nine months. That's really the only basis I have for this WMG, but it would make sense that, sensing his mortality after getting his ass severely beaten, he'd want to go out and produce an heir.
- Just don't invoke Mister Seahorse and I'll buy into this WMG.
If the producer hadn't dropped his cigar into the oil the helicopter spilled Offdensen would have tossed a flame down too.
Or...
- It is very likely the other band members have Geasses as well, but this troper is unable to think of their abilities at this time, barring Toki: his can literally kill someone, but Toki is unable to control it.
- Skwisgaar's Geass makes women extremely fertile right before sex with him. Like Toki, he is unable to control his Geass, hence the literally hundreds of children.
- Somehow, whether from Offdensen or another Code Bearer (Salacia, maybe?), his mother Serveta had a Geass that did the reverse of this, making men shoot blanks when they have sex with her. The one time she forgets to Geass someone led to Skwisgaar's conception. Either that or Skwisgaar's father has the anti-Geass like Jeremiah had.
- Alternately, Skwisgaar's conception was a fluke and Serveta's Geass is similar to C.C.'s, though it's not so much 'everyone falls in love with her' but 'everyone wants to have sex with her'. And she's starting to lose control of her Geass. And that's why Murderface is attracted to her: he is her Euphinator incident.
- Pickles's Geass allows him to counteract the effects of mind altering substances, such as alcohol and drugs. Unlike the Scandinavians, Pickles can control his Geass, and uses it only after he's done being drunk and/or high. This is the supposed 'tolerance' Pickles has to drugs mentioned in Snakes and Barrels.
- It is also quite possible Murderface doesn't have a Geass. If Ofdensen was the one to give the others Geasses, and if his motivation was anything like C.C.'s initial motivation, he could have decided that there was no chance of Murderface becoming strong enough to take his Code and not bothered with giving him a Geass. Definitely plays up on Murderface's inferiority complex.
- And just for fun, playing on the naming convention of the two Code Bearers, C.C. (pronounced See-Two) and V.V. (pronounced Vee-Two), Offdensen, if anything, would be O.O. (pronounced Oh-Two) Aka Oxygen.
- Skwisgaar's Geass makes women extremely fertile right before sex with him. Like Toki, he is unable to control his Geass, hence the literally hundreds of children.
In Dethgov, Nathan does a more advanced version of this, generating a dark version of his head that can audibly sing. Nearly all the witnesses died, however. In fact, you could even make a separate WMG about if Scrambles the Death Dealer was Dethklok's fault somehow. And who knows whether their process to write music on water is supernatural or not. It certainly destroys the environment like a mystic plague.
The opening shows the band performing in an unknown frigid venue, most likely near the area of the Season 1 finale's concert. You could cynically say that the entire opening isn't part of the show and just looks cool. However, the posing they do in the opening is revealed in the finale to be them looking at the dying Cardinal Ravenwood from his perspective. And the only time they played without a crowd or recording in the series was when they had to subdue a supernatural force. Perhaps they will have to ride the Dethcycle back there and play to subvert the Metalocalypse.
Take note of what the set will be called: 'The Dead Man'. The reason given was the (supposed) assassination of Offdensen, but the problem with that is the two previous DVD sets. Both were named for the final episode of the season, 'The Metalocalypse Has Begun' and 'Black Fire Upon Us' respectively. My guess is, 'The Dead Man' is this season's finale, and someone will die for real during it. As to who? The running guess is Offdensen will be Killed Off for Real.- "The Dead Man" refers to Offdensen because of something that happened in the episode "Doublebookedklok".
- Which, in "Church of the Black Klok" turned out to be Offdensen DID die, rendering himself invisible to Salacia.
- "The Dead Man" refers to Offdensen because of something that happened in the episode "Doublebookedklok".
We already know that Pickles had asthma as a kid, and he states that he smoked government weed as a child because he had "kiddie glaucoma". However, although it's more common among older people some children are born with glaucoma. Closed-angle glaucoma also causes nasty symptoms like vomiting and sever headaches.
His parents' perfect life was hindered by having a sick child, and Pickles just accepted their rejection and ran away eventually. His health improved after he discovered music due to his Metalocalypse immunities.
- And this is why Seth is the favored son-because he was 'perfect' and 'normal'. Sure, Pickles isn't mentally disabled, but if this WMG is true, it'd be very similar to the relationships in the Gordon family in Flowers for Algernon.
- Him having more illnesses may also explain why in flashbacks to when he was 6, his younger brother was so much bigger than him.
- Wait. He'd have to be Scania's half-brother. Scania's father is known, to Sister Sweden and Sweden anyway, and Sweden lied and told Scania that his father was dead (when he's really Denmark).
After Renovationklok, there are two Offdensens: the one with the scar, and the one without the scar. There are two possible explanations-
A) He has a body double, because Ofdensen has too much important stuff going on to deal with the day-to-day asshattery that goes on with the boys. They don't need his direct presence more than they need his behind-the-scenes management, so he's arranged for a body double, possibly so dedicated and loyal as to have plastic surgery, to take care of that for him. This might also explain his unusually personable words to Skwisgaar during Fatherklok — he's not actually Ofdensen and hasn't had years of under-appreciation and cynicism to dampen his desire for closeness with the band.
or, more interestingly,
B) His actual self from earlier in the timeline. Scarred Offdensen suffered his horrible beating from the Metal Masked Assassin and went to follow up on the deeper workings of the Tribunal that he discovered. In doing so, he discovered the secret of time travel that Salacia uses, and went back in time to prevent the fall of Mordhaus. However, when he went back in time, he realized that certain key events could not take place without the siege occurring (such as Crozier's corruption), and couldn't interfere. But, since he already knew he was going to be out of commission for nine months, Offdensen removed his past self from the time stream to be properly healed and informed without damaging his own timeline. This is why Offdensen shows up first, and then Ofdensen properly returns, grey suit and unscarred face and all.
Whatever happened to him, is the same thing that happened to Salacia; the difference is that Dethklok wanted Offdensen to survive, rather than Salacia having been invested with the power of metal by accident, and so they willed him back to life. This is why Salacia wants their power — he's the only one who knows what it can really do.
- As of now... Hard to say if it's Confirmed or Jossed
- Or maybe they know about Toki's death curse. If she was pretty, Toki would fall in love with her and she'd die a horrible death.
- Though I've noticed Offdensen's similarity to Owen, it is a kind of weird leap to make. You seem to be implying that his unfettered personality is a racial trait, it's not. Being fond of humans doesn't dry out one's humor either. Owen acts the way he does because of Puck's amusement at another character's wooden personality, and decided to copy him. Owen is unique to Puck. Most other fair folk act more or less the same in human form as they do in their real form. It's kind of like saying Pickles is secretly a gargoyle because he has red hair like Demona does.
- There may be some merit to this theory. In one of the DVD extras, he does mention he has a guitar (his "baby", which is a mint condition 1959 Gibson Les Paul, to be specific). Alternatively, this leads into another theory...
- Trying to pin down a timeline in Metalocalypse is asking for trouble, especially when it comes to trying to compare people's ages, but the fencing award in Charles' office puts him in college in the 80's, which would have been around the time Pickles was in Snakes N' Barrels. There's some speculation that Charles may have been a Snakes N' Barrels fan at the time. In Sn BII, he says "I didn't represent you then," not "I didn't know you then". And if Pickles didn't know Charles at the time, why would he even think Offdensen was responsible for his not owning the band's name?
On the plus side, if it's true, we'll never have to worry about Offdensen being gone for good.
- And somewhere in the depths of Mordhaus, there are clones for all the members of Dethklok. That's where they keep getting Nathan's new livers from.
- Eh...most people, if they do think Offdensen's related to someone in the tribunal, gun for Crozier.
Well, apart from any of various homoerotic instances in the show (there are a lot), Charles generally goes out of his way for Nathan more than the others, even to the point of offering Nathan a shoulder to cry on after having "girl trouble" (which he never tries to do for any of the others), and playing with Nathan's hair when he's rip-roaring drunk. (Also the last few WMG's I made have either been confirmed by the show, or very strongly hinted at, so Mr. Small, if you're reading this, please let Dethklok and CFO be okay.)
- Here's something else to note: Offdensen was cool with the roaster insulting the other band mates, even cracking a smile once or twice. It's only when he starts to insult Nathan that Offdensen puts a hit out on him.
- He's also not shy about deliberately pointing out various flaws with the bandmates personally, if sometimes indirectly (Murderface being irresponsible about the Nascar Type Hybrid Theatrical Event) or of occasionally making subtle jibes at them (Talking about his father to Skwisgaar, drinking brandy in front of Pickles), but not with Nathan. Or Toki, for that matter, who he seems to have a more fatherly concern for. I think you're cool. CMOH.
- Nathan was the one who Charles was thinking of when he mentioned no one remembered his birthday.
- Did anyone else notice that Nathan was the only one of them who knew exactly how long Charles had been missing?
- Offdensen doesn't suffer from sexual frustration while trapped for months on the Dethsub, even though he knows it's "a pit of despair". He's used to not being able to have the person he wants, so of course it wouldn't bother him any more than usual.
- Let's just say there's a reason Nathan and Offdensen are linked in some of these WMGs
Okay, so, expanding on a couple of WMGs:
Scarred Offdensen and Unscarred Offdensen are two different people who were both subject to Salacia's power upon witnessing Salacia take over Crozier's mind. Scarred Offdensen used that power to go back in time and rescue his past self from the Assassin, and spent the nine months he was gone explaining everything he knew to his unscarred self. He came back to rescue the band and then left his unscarred self to run things while he continued investigating the Tribunal.
Now that Unscarred Offdensen has supernatural powers and has effectively died for Dethklok once before, he's watching his work and his dedication go unappreciated and is slowly growing bitter, not just for himself, but his Scarred Other Self is still working behind the scenes, unappreciated and completely forgotten (since none of the band seem to have even noticed that the scar is gone). Eventually, he'll grow dissatisfied with his situation, and go back in time to orchestrate the Metalocalypse so that he can take their power, whether because he can't let Dethklok have it (because they'll destroy the world) or because he wants it for himself (as a payoff for everything he's done so far). He will need to use Time Travel Face Bag technology and go back in time at the speed of regular time, which is why Salacia is as old as he is.
This is further supported by Vater Orlaag's words that no one but those inside the secret chamber (Orlaag, Salacia, and Crozier) knows about Salacia when wondering whether Offdensen knows or not; if Offdensen is Salacia, it's still true.
Offdensen died at the end of Season 2 and Salacia brought him back to life and is controlling his body. Offdensen is now Salacia's mole inside Dethklok and his plans with Project Falconback are really Salacia's.
There will eventually be a battle of wills between the real spirit of Offdensen and Salacia over control of Offdensen's body.
- Jossed.
- This is probably the most believable WMG on here.
- I take it back. I think Offdensen planned it. I rewatched Rehabklok, and something just doesn't ring true in Offdensen's voice when he tells Pickles that the robot kidnapped the band, almost like he's hamming it up to show concern. The only time that sounded like he was sincere was when he asked if Pickles had been drinking, which, if he was behind this, would be all he's concerned about. Well, it's either that or Offdensen's voice just doesn't lend itself to yelling, but whatever.
- Since rabbits are located nearly everywhere, shouldn't that make Toki a better guitarist and overall more successful?
- Toki IS a talented guitarist, but he's shy and insecure, and easily thrown off by criticism and scrutiny — i.e., he spooks like a bunny. He's also very popular with kids, and surprisingly dangerous (when he beats the ever loving piss out of the Manhattan Sidewinder fan-douche, it could easily be described as "Going Watership Down on his ass".)
- "And he opened the bottomless pit.... And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth; and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.... [A]nd [the locusts'] faces were as the faces of men. And they had hair as the hair of women..." Faces of men and hair of women, makes a good amount of sense when you consider Dethklok are all men with long hair.
- "And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone." Breastplates of fire could easily refer to their instruments; in particular the guitars. Fire and smoke and brimstone out of their mouth, that could easily be their lyrics, which tell of destruction and death.
- "And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men... And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit." The fifth angel, there's some debate to be had here. It could be said that M.H. was never meant to be a member of Dethklok. Whatever happened to him, Toki took his place, and that would be when Dethklok's reign of destruction started. Toki is the most liable candidate to be the fifth angel. The key to the bottomless pit; his guitar?
- "Matthew 24:5 "For many will come in my name, saying, I am Christ, and will mislead many." Matthew 24:11 "And many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many." Skwisgaar made some seriously powerful claims in Fatherklok, eh?
- "Matthew 24:6 "And you will be hearing of wars and rumors of wars; see that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end." Doublebookedklok, nearly starting WWIII, the panic that came with it to everyone in the world.
- "Matthew 24:7 "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines and earthquakes." It's near impossible to have a Dethklok concert without severe destruction to everything and everyone nearby.
- "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world for a witness to all the nations, and then the end shall come." Everyone in the universe of Metalocalypse, everyone— has heard their music. 99% of the world are fans. Worshipers.
- "Revelation 13:16-17 "And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name." The Gears/Klokateers, quite obviously.
- The Bible predicts two one world leaders or Antichrists who will rule the entire world (Rev 13, Dan 7:8, 11, 23). One will be the main leader, or the Beast, while the other, the False Prophet, will perform miracles and force the world to worship the Beast and his Image. If you think of Dethklok as the Beast and Charles as the false prophet, it makes a lot of sense.
- The False Prophet, whose number is 666, will enforce the mark, which could be a tattoo or computer chip. In this case, a brand.
- Initially they will promise peace, and deceive many that they are good. They will reign for 7 years, after they sign a treaty with many people. A recording contract.
- In the middle of the 7 year tribulation, 1260 days after the agreement is signed, the Beast will break the agreement, gain ultimate control and enter the temple he built... Renovationklok?
- The Bible warns that if you accept the mark on your right hand or forehead to enable buying or selling, and worship the Beast and his Image you will come under the control of the Devil and be destined for Hell (Rev 14:9, 10, 2Thes 2:11, 12). It is better to die instead... Die for Dethklok.
- At the time a one world government will be portrayed as a solution to all our problems, and the leaders will fool the world that it will bring peace. The end of Doublebookedklok, when Israel and Syria find peace within Dethklok's music.
- One last thing worth mentioning, at some point it is foretold that during the End Times, the sea would turn to blood as every living creature died. BLOOD OCEAN, anyone?
- The Gear brand, even apart from the fact it has no semblance to a name or a number, is accepted willingly.
- Skwisgaar's claims were in front of the band or on his own, not for public.
Listen to Lit Up, then listen to I'm Just A Rock n' Roll Clown. They're pretty much the same song. When Josh got clean, the coke addict he used to be took the form of a clown and continued rocking.
- Jossed as of "Bookklok".
- It's coincidence. Brendon Small has gone on record as saying that CFO was based on Robert Duvall's character from The Godfather.
- Nathan doesn’t seem to be at all interested in the sex aspect of his "Sex, Drugs and Rock n'roll" lifestyle. He only got a girlfriend because he wanted a friend who happens to be a girl. Rebecca got all pissy when she found out he didn't care about sex, and Frankly, any of the other band members would leap at the chance to impregnate lots of women to produce a race of warriors.
- Except he never did find out anything about Lavona Succuboso's plan except the Loin Extractor which would have removed his sperm without sex, the reason he was glad Rebecca was in a coma was so that he could go to the Pornography Awards, and the entire episode "Klokblocked" is about the other bandmates foiling his attempts to have sex. And given the "supermodels" scene in Tributeklok he has the most implied sexual activity of anyone in the band except Skwisgaar...
- Listen to Offdensen calling out the raffle winner at the employee rally in Season 1 to compare. At some point he may have noticed the band never listens to him and created the Facebones persona so he could get a message across once in awhile.
- This is a common assumption in the show's fanon.
- If you check out the Mordhaus tour from the season one DVD extras, you'll notice Facebones actually uses a few of Offdensen's verbal quirks. That being said, considering how both simultaneously bitter and maniacally gleeful (listen to him laugh when he takes you to the basement hallway where the Jomfru brothers ended up then try sleeping tonight) the gory mascot seems to be, my guess is that Charles does this not for the benefit of the boys, but so that he can vent his job's many, many frustrations.
The boys' supernatural abilities warp reality, but when they're not doing anything in particular, those powers lapse into a passive influence over the effects of time on the individuals around them according to how much attention they pay to it. Offdensen has remained the same age since the band's founding because he's always within Dethklok's sphere of influence, but they never play very close attention to him. Their perception of him hasn't changed since they first met, so he hasn't actually gotten any older. Salacia is Magnus Hammersmith (the unknown fifth member of the band who Toki probably replaced) after he left Dethklok's sphere of influence, causing time to affect him strangely since Dethklok has either forgotten him completely, or they remember him (privately) enough that he's been continuously affected in short bursts. The reason no one's caught on is because everyone else who might be affected by it has died or been killed before it made any real difference.
- The Magnus aspect of that theory may well be Jossed; Magnus showed up in "Dethcamp"; he seems no older than one would expect. Either he's not Salacia, or he has disguising powers.
Dethklok won't destroy the world. They'll just make it more... metal.
- I think it's possible that Stampingston is another victim of Salacia's mind control - he's never seen to oppose Salacia, he rarely even gives any input aside from dispensing information and calling in professors, and yet he's allowed in Salacia's private chamber (check S3 finale - he's in there with Crozier, Orlaag, and Salacia.) I can't help but think Salacia's responsible for his scar, too.
- I have an idea something bad IS going to happen, but not in the way of deadly force. Think about it: Offdensen has practically made it his life's goal to protect and promote Dethklok as a company. So why was he so nervous in Dethdinner when in every other crisis, including his own DEATH, and the threat of World War III, he's been completely unphased? Because it was HIS job riding on that dinner. They already fired and replaced Knubbler. Charles was almost certainly next. And now, after the debacle the boys caused and the breakup of the band, Crystal Mountain Records is going to have Charles fired. He's going to lose his job, his livelihood, and everything he's fought and died for. Simultaneously...
- Jossed in "Breakupklok".
- Jossed in "Breakupklok".
- I always assumed that most of the time Crozier has been in a free-will state, and about as normal as before, except when Salacia "activates" him, seen when his eyes glow.
- Jossed hard by The Doomstar Requiem, but Magnus eventually saw the error of his ways.
- Jossed in The Doomstar Requiem, where Magnus is seen sewing up Toki's wounds.
- Mostly Jossed in The Doomstar Requiem, but one part of it was right. The actions of the Revengencers were against the Tribunal's will, but as it turned out they already had a plan to put a possessed mole inside Dethklok.
- And it will happen once someone catches him practicing music on a different instrument.
- Well, I mean more-triggered. The world isn't being destroyed any quicker than it was during the first season. The Ishnifus guy mentioned that most of the bad shit would be happening in the future.
- Murderface getting groupies sounds more end of the world bringing.
- Either that or they were co-written by Magnus as a Badass Boast. It's not very clear.
- OP, that... is the most metal thing I've ever heard in my whole life.
Nordic, childlike and very curious, has a temper that is extremely frightening and destructive, does even more inadvertent harm to innocents than is normal for the band. So...hey...ever notice what happens when you turn the "T" in Toki upside down?
- ...You show everyone that you're slightly confused about what L looks like?
- When asked if there was going to be a fifth season on his Reddit AMA, Brendan refused to answer...
- Well...it did end on a cliffhanger... Probably best to wait for Word of God on this one.
- Brendon said that they have a 5th season planned out and ready to go, but are just waiting for network approval to begin production.
- After much executive bickering, **Metalocalypse: Army of the Doomstar** is finally getting made and is slated for release in 2023!
It's how he's able to consume so many narcotics. His appearance in 'Snakes N' Barrels II' was a disguise - the way we normally see him is the closest he can get to revealing his true form without making the humans around him go insane.
- Alternatively, his physical form is still very much human - he really was once a troubled young boy by the name of Leonard Rockstein. Leonard was possessed by the eldritch abomination, probably as a teenager or very young man (around the same time as - or just before - he became the lead singer of Zazz Blammymatazz) and caused him to go completely off the rails. Before he was possessed, Leonard was a troublemaker, sure, but he never did anything truly terrible. After he was possessed, he began taking cocaine, possibly to deal with the mental stress of harbouring an ancient eldritch abomination in his head. His cocaine use rapidly wore him down and left him even more vulnerable to the abomination, and eventually, he couldn't control it any more. Why did it possess him in the first place? Well, even if he wasn't a totally awful kid, he was still troubled. Maybe he had some emotional issues that made him more vulnerable. Alternatively, this could all just be a metaphor for what addiction does to a person. You choose.
While the Church and Ishnufus are working directly to interpret the prophecy and prevent the Metalocalypse from occurring, it was mentioned that the final task was for Nathan to finish the latest album in order to create the appropriate message as told to him by the whale goddess. It was also established multiple times that the band doesn't really work unless under duress or in an emotionally volatile state (usually very angry), which was shown when they were sent to the Middle East and faced with the threat of becoming sex slaves unless they wrote a new song on the spot.
The Church knew about the kidnapping plans long before the funeral but did nothing to stop it, hoping that eventually Dethklok would rescue Toki and Abigail. This is why at the beginning of The Doomstar Requiem they kept singing that one of them must die, that person revealed to be Ishnufus. As a result of the events of the Doomstar Requiem and Dethklok's change of heart and awakening as gods, the final song to complete the goddess' message and begin the war against Falconback and Salacia and thus prevent the Metalocalypse was written: Blazing Star.
Salacia tells the Tribunal about a traitor within Dethklok well before the band sets foot inside The Depths of Humanity. Therefore it would stand to reason that the mentioned traitor is someone else - likely not a band member. However, what happened to Murderface will probably cause him to further alienate himself from the rest of the band, one way or another. Nathan's claim that he (and by extension, the rest of Dethklok) would risk his life for Murderface's sake may be put to test by the end of the 5th season.
Using magic to make himself look younger, of course. Their facial features are strikingly similar, and they even have a similar accent.
Magnus's did. It was heavily implied that the death would be a member of Dethklok, and although Ishnifus was their associate and mentor he was not a member of the band nor even formally employed by them. Magnus, on the other hand, is The Pete Best to Dethklok and thus technically a member, and in killing himself over allowing Ishnifus to die, unintentionally fulfilled the prophecy. This is also why we see the Doomstar behind him during his suicide.
Let's face it, the two of them remind me of some of the more cultlike sects of religions. And in quite a few of them, women are meant to be subservient and do whatever the husband tells them. It's also quite possible that Anja had been forced into the marriage with Aslaag to 'cleanse' herself of some arbitrary sin. The easy target would be conceiving Toki out of wedlock (which would go with the 'son of a god' WMG or make the 'Toki isn't their son' theory half correct), but I think the better answer is she's a lesbian. (She got just as handsy as the rest of the Dethmoms.) And most cultlike sects view homosexuality as a sin.
He was born at some point in the eighties, when Snakes N' Barrels were still together with Pickles. He knew from an early age who his father was, and repeatedly tried to get in touch with him, but Pickles either wasn't interested or thought Kixx was just some weird, overly-obsessed fan. The bitterness led to substance abuse problems, which in turn forced him into sobriety. Reuniting Snakes N' Barrels with himself as the lead singer was a way of getting back at Pickles.
...He was the Norse god Tyr in human form.
Let's see, a blond, Swedish (possibly - his accent can most likely be pinned down to Northern Europe, and he does threaten to 'unleash the Viking madness' on another camper at one point), egotistical (yet admittedly talented) Jerkass who bullies Toki - now who does that sound like? It's probable that he's aware of who his father is and either resents him for being absent, or has become a "Well Done, Son" Guy desperately trying to re-connect with his father. He's probably one of, if not the oldest of Skwisgaar's kids (he's at least in his early twenties; perhaps Skwisgaar was eighteen or so and in a band back in Sweden at the time).
- Alternatively, he's Skwisgaar's half-brother. Serveta may well have had another kid but couldn't be bothered with the hassle of raising two kids, so put him up for adoption.
