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- I actually thought that was a bad case of casting colorism.
- In The Rhodes Not Taken, April mentions that she gave birth to a set of mixed-race twins. If you believe that April is Rachel's biological mother, this could mean that Rachel is not only half-black, but has a twin floating around somewhere.
- Jossed in 1x19 when it's revealed that Shelby was her Two Dads' egg donor.
- Additional possibility of a Chekhov's Gun in "Mattress" where Rachel is shown as a member of the school's Black Student organization. Although it was presented as just a sight gag showing crazy Rachel being in as many groups as possible to get into the yearbook, it does provide addition support for this WMG.
- Even if the white one was her biological father Rachel would probably consider herself "half-black" anyway.
- Do we know that either of her fathers is white? She is adopted, it's possible neither of them is her biological father and they're both of other races.
- In the pilot she said that they mixed both of her fathers' sperm in a "turkey baster" and used a surrogate, so that she doesn't know which of them is her biological father. It then shows a picture of them in her locker and one of them is black and the other is white and looks of Jewish descent like her.
- Uh, considering that Rachel compares her nose to Barbra Streisand's, it's pretty clear that Rachel indeed knows that she is ethnically half-Jewish. So, either she knows that her birth mother is Jewish, or she's actually aware that she has the DNA of her Jewish father.
- Well, traditionally a person is only considered a Jew by birth if their mother was (although Reform Judaism counts the father). And from a politically correct point of view Rachel has no mother, she has an egg donor.
- Jossed: her fathers from the pilot have been replaced by two white actors.
- Not Jossed: One of her fathers is being played by Brian Stokes Mitchell who is African American, but so light-skinned as to easily be mistaken for white. It is very likely that he could have a completely white looking child who identifies as half-black.
- That doesn't explain why the picture in her locker in the pilot episode has two different people. Did she just take a picture with some random, interracial couple?
- I thought it was on this page, but it might have been on the headscratcher's page but this was discussed to an extent. Lots of things change between a pilot and actual production, including cast and characterization. The men in the pictures in her locker were never really meant to play Rachel's parents on a permanent basis (at least one of them was a model and not an actor, I think) and the parts were simply recast. They're still her fathers in-universe, but now they're played by different actors.
- In the pilot she said that they mixed both of her fathers' sperm in a "turkey baster" and used a surrogate, so that she doesn't know which of them is her biological father. It then shows a picture of them in her locker and one of them is black and the other is white and looks of Jewish descent like her.
- Alternatively, the entire series is the Alice in Wonderland / Wizard of Oz-style drug-induced hallucination of one of the characters from "Glum".
- She joined Glee Club to make a name for herself at the school. It was one of the first things she said. And she is the best female singer in the club. She has a far stronger base than Tina, and has greater stylistic range than Mercedes. Also, most of the ridiculously high praise for Finn comes before Preggers when Puck, Mike, and Matt join Glee. Before that, Finn is the club's best bet for a male lead. Kurt's voice is way too high to be useful as a counterpoint to Rachel's, and Artie isn't able to dance (Finn isn't very good, but at least it's physically possible for him to learn). Puck is better at both, but early on he thinks he's already damaged his reputation enough by even being in the club, there's no way he would let Mr. Schue make him sing lead on a song.
- Rachel is not the best singer in Glee. She just keeps telling people that she's the best singer in the club. Mercedes explicitly states that she is Rachel's equal in "A Night of Neglect." Rachel agrees with her. The only thing that Rachel has over Mercedes (and arguably Quinn and Santana) is greater desire to be in the forefront and more opportunities to sing lead from Mr. Schuester.
- In the season 2 premiere, Rachel repeatedly insists that she's been trying to sabotage Sunshine's audition for the sake of her friends. She only admits that it was for her own gain after Finn gets angry at the obvious lie. I was definitely getting mentally unstable vibes from Rachel at that point.
- Um, her interest in a "GayLesbAll" is because she has two gay dads, not because she's a lesbian. She also didn't say she would be the most active member of the club, she said it would make her the most involved person in the school (since she's been trying to sneak her way in to every club she can to appear involved, and now wanting to start a club she has a closer tie to).
- Not to mention that many people, straight and otherwise, are attracted to the unattainable. Also note that just before that scene, it's shown that she'll join -any- club even if she doesn't fit. More than likely, she probably counted and checked on how many clubs other people had joined and was trying to one-up them.
- I wouldn't put it past Rachel to pretend to be a lesbian for attention.
- It is actually surprising that she hasn't tried already.
- In fact, with Santana now constantly teetering on the edge of coming out, we could see Rachel try her hand at it a little bit depending on how far off the deep end the writers want to go.
- Only in this universe instead of wanting to be surrounded by "Espers, Time Travellers, and Aliens", she wants to be surrounded by good singers and dancers (aka the glee club), and is subconsciously bending reality to make the world into one big musical.
- Actually I thought Will was the one doing that, Glee club is his baby.
- Will is the Kyon to Rachel's Haruhi but rather than being demanding Rachel is using her powers to influence him to do everything.
- This actually makes sense seeing as she is an admitted Drama Addict. All the emotional drama befalling she and her glee club mates could all just be her subconsciously twisting reality about for her amusement.
- Actually I thought Will was the one doing that, Glee club is his baby.
- Unless Sue got rid of them while we weren't looking, having a student's underwear in your desk drawer can't be too good for a teacher especially since the school already fired one teacher for having a sexual relationship with a student of the same sex.
- The script seemed to indicate that Rachel's dads know who she is, of course, she could go all Moral Event Horizon on her daughter
- Seriously, the way she was Wangstily looking at the glee club room during "What I did for love", where we could see... Kurt.
- In addition (and this is my personal canon, until proven otherwise, because I genuinely liked Rachel until season two), the blow to her self-esteem was because of her mother. I mean, think about it. Shelby works out a detailed plan in order to finally meet and connect with her daughter. When this finally comes to fruition, after a tearful duet ("I Dreamed a Dream," anyone?) and everything, Shelby... promptly dismisses her for what must seem like no true reason. Rachel had no way of knowing that Shelby and Mr. Schue had spoken about the whole ordeal. Knowing all the careful planning that had gone into their reunion, the natural conclusion for Rachel to come to was that her mother had met her and simply hadn't wanted her enough to stay. Adopting Beth was just another nail in the coffin; Rachel wasn't good enough, but the child of her rival was. And after Regionals, she went back and tried to convince Shelby to come to McKinley, and was promptly turned down again. Rachel's been a bitch this season, and I want old Rachel back, but after everything that's happened to her... it's hard not to feel bad for her. Just a little bit.
- That would make Quinn this love, seeing as she slapped her in the face during Prom. It would explain her mild reaction to being slapped in the face and saying that she appreciated the drama
The reason she wants to move to New York City and become famous? New York has millions of unsolved murders and missing persons each year and if she's careful, no one will even notice. Being famous means that on occasions she can drop off the radar in a way that a normal person, who would have close friends and a job, wouldn't be able to. The reason she knew about the crackhouse? She experiments with the druggies there and initially intended to kill Sunshine and her mother, but everyone at McKinley High can't mind their own business.
- He does manage to be near girls in the celibacy club without... popping the balloon...
- Jossed. In episode three, it shows he's into older women like...Gag...Sue Sylvester! Although he did have a nipple ring...Maybe he's bisexual.
- Bisexual guys wear nipple rings? Do bisexual girls wear them too?
- It's possible he ends up having sex with Sue, given this interview and the not-so-subtle subtext of the third episode.
- His name itself could be possible foreshadowing. Even if it isn't, there is still the opportunity for teasing by anyone with a working knowledge of Shakespeare.
- If you think about it, it would really bring the entire Love Dodecahedron in a giant circle, starting right at the beginning.
- Maybe his stint in juvie may force him to realize he and Kurt have more in common than an unhealthy obsession with Finn.
- He seems to be really obsessed with the size of Sam's lips.
- Puck is here as fetish material or a "fanfic fuel"
- Beth is his mother's name
- Beth is his sister's name
- Beth is his Nana's name
- Beth is the name of the woman he lost his virginity to.
- Beth is the first name he came across while looking through song titles of Cd`s he had stolen during a trip to walmart.
- His name is Puck
- When in doubt, he turns to "the two things [he's] best at: lying and crime."
- He covets the Conflict Ball.
- He has often been known to switch allegiances, suggesting a loyalty only to his own mischief.
- It turned out to be Artie.
- I know there was an interview with Jane Lynch that strongly hinted there would be some Sue and Puck would have some sex time. Link, please?
- Here you go. - "Sue does anything she wants with these kids. In one of the episodes, she has a boy from the football team rubbing her feet and cleaning her pool." If that doesn't result in Sue+ Puck sexy time, I don't know what will. Okay, so it may end in hilarity as well...
- I know there was an interview with Jane Lynch that strongly hinted there would be some Sue and Puck would have some sex time. Link, please?
- He then uses it again in Theatricality on Quinn
To link with a guess below, he is more specifically Kurt's fairy godfather and is just having fun while waiting for Kurt to find a nice mortal and settle down.
- Confirmed, sort of. It happens once and Shelby gives him the boot.
- Confirmed as of "Choke," but he barely makes an appearance.
- Jossed. It was Ryder. Kitty, too, although the episode is only mentioned later in a throwaway line from Sue.
- Let's face it, ladies man though Puck is, even he'd probably draw the line at Kitty. He clearly doesn't think that much of her. (He called her a "she-devil" right to Jake's face.) Furthermore, as much as he adores his daughter, he probably isn't looking for a repeat of the Quinn Fabray incident. He only agreed to go out with her at all so she'd back off Jake. He'll play the role, but no sex will be involved.
- Made Harsher in Hindsight given that Kitty is a sophomore and Mark Salling's later arrest on child porn charges.
- That also explains how he was able to convert his basement into an all-white New York apartment. Also, his dad didn't give him a car and then take it away; that was a cover story for the magical shenanigans that lead to him gaining and losing it. It was probably magically defective, and that's why he able to forgive Mercedes so easily.
- In "Ballads" he wished for Finn to pick his name. He also wished for piano skills, considering in the previous episode he'd had to label the keys when he was practicing his high notes.
- Think of the negative connotations of the word "fairy" and this makes even more sense. They are, in this case, fairies assigned to disadvantaged, well, fairies.
- The fairy godparents also try to help out whenever Kurt really needs it- they got Kurt's predecessor off the football team so Kurt could become kicker.
- They also gave him the giant sign in "Rose's Turn" and summoned the gospel choir during "Like a Prayer". They're also the reason the "Vogue" video was flawless when the other project Artie directed was a hot mess.
- Kurt's house is twice as big as Finn's and has 2.5 bathrooms, yet both boys have to share the converted basement. Obviously the house wasn't built with only one bedroom, the other rooms were just magicked away.
- I actually can see this to an extent, but strictly in a figurative sense. Though even "Glee" pushes it to the point they're almost straying into Magic Realism. In "New York", Kurt waves his hand and seems to change the background scenery as if by magic during "For Good". Falling back on the viewer's suspension of disbelief and writing it off as part of the power of imagination. They seem to pull this stuff more with Kurt than just about any other character.
Psychologically, this would obviously have very negatively affected Kurt. From his desperate attempts to avoid what he saw as his father abandoning him; to his utter fixation on Finn based on an isolated incident of ostensible kindness; to his need to resort to alcohol at one point to have the confidence to be himself; to his manipulations, both successful and failed, of Rachel, Finn, his father, Finn's mother; and there's more. I'm a major Kurt fan and even I have to admit these aren't really signs of a healthy mind.
- They are, however signs that he's a perfectly normal teenager.
- ...not really. I'll admit, it is a teen drama so these kinds of machinations are bound to be a part of the plot, but that doesn't really mean "perfectly normal" by default, either.
- Hope they don't go this route, as he is the only gay regular character, and it would bring the unfortunate implications that he isn't really gay, but only deeply traumatized by that.
- Agreed, this is MAJOR Unfortunate Implications. I think Kurt is just an overdramatic teenager. He doesn't have anything wrong with him.
- They are, however signs that he's a perfectly normal teenager.
- That... doesn't really make much sense. If he doesn't know he's a girl, * why* he would act like a girl wanting to be a boy? He was raised as a boy. And he's a flamboyant gay, which in television equals to acting like a woman 99% of the time, being more feminine than them even.
- "Guy? I'm a guy." Kurt identifies as male, he just likes to hang out with the girls because they're nicer to him and they share common interests. The girl's songs that he's wanted to sing have nothing in the lyrics that have to do with the gender of the singer, they're just in a better range for his voice. Also, while he is clearly into feminine things, I think he exaggerates it on purpose, building up this cold fashionista facade as armor. He knows he's different so he's going to play it up to the point of making people uncomfortable. For example, when he's arguing with his dad and he tells him to leave so he can do his skin care ritual, that was less about his skin and more him using his effeminacy as a weapon.
- It's not just you. Kurt could just identify himself as male because that is what he sees in the mirror. Sexuality is different from gender, I agree, but people can battle with identifying their sexuality for years too before finally understanding. It's a process. For now Kurt may be content to be a Flamboyant Gay but in time he may realise that his body is not what makes him happy. I doubt the show would go there either, but no, you're not the only one who sees it.
- I get that too, but it could be a number of other gender/sex options too (genderqueer, or he could have a transvestism fetish, or what have you). Wouldn't be surprised if he eventually identified as female in show or not.
- There's already too many people in the world who think gay and trans are the same things. If this show went there after consistently labelling Kurt as gay, they would just be adding to that confusion as well as upsetting all the people who are trying to stop that confusion. Plus Kurt is Ryan Murphy's author avatar and Ryan Murphy is a gay man.
- I actually had a WMG that Kurt was a trans guy, but that would be even more Unfortunate Implications-y.
- I don't think Kurt being a trans guy would be Unfortunate Implications - you hardly ever see gay or feminine trans guys (unless you're using "trans guy" to mean MtF, which is improper).
- Hmm... I'm trans and I just don't see it. I think Kurt is genderqueer at the most, but to me he just seems like a really really fabulous cis guy, especially since he's never been shown to have any problems with his body, which is the main tip-off, not being flamboyant.
- As to him looking like a lesbian when he tried to be straight, that could just be because he was overcompensating. Happens to a lot of gays who try to go in the closet, they don't have natural masculinity, they overcompensate, and they end up looking like a fool.
- Sorry, did you just imply that... lesbian women are all butch and gay men are all "naturally feminine"?
- No, they implied — or outright stated, actually — that some gay men who are Camp Gay by nature have a really hard time acting stereotypically straight because they exaggerate what they think are masculine traits and wind up overcompensating. Which is absolutely true, it happened to my best friend.
- Sorry, did you just imply that... lesbian women are all butch and gay men are all "naturally feminine"?
- Or you know, he is the owner of an auto-repair shop, which while blue-collar, is a very lucrative business.
- That still doesn't explain the bedroom shortage. I think we might be on to something with this one...
- I heard that Kurt's mother died when he was 6. If it was 8 years ago, he would've been 8 also, but the accident was 10 years ago...
- There's a continuity error. Kurt's mother is said to have died both ten and eight years ago.
- It's not necessarily a continuity error. People often round or speak generally about numbers when being exact is not needed.
- Or Burt was right when he said eight years and Kurt was wrong when he said ten. Kurt was just a little kid and just doesn't remember as well as Burt.
- I don't think there was a continuity error either. My mom died 8 years ago, and for a long time I told everyone it was four years. When you've dealt with something like that, the years blur together.
- There's a continuity error. Kurt's mother is said to have died both ten and eight years ago.
- Confirmed at the beginning of Season 3 when Kurt pushes for Blaine to join him at McKinley until Blaine finally agrees to do so. Although this doesn't seem to in any way have been his plan from the beginning, so maybe it's a little bit different.
- Well he definitely isn't now. Or does Sue's contract account for Cheerios changing schools too?
- Jossed. Finn died.
- His dad knew he was gay since Kurt was 3 and all he wanted was a pair of sensible heels, his mother died when he was 8. So uh yeah
After she died, Kurt spent so much time lying around huddled in her old bedroom that Burt got rightfully worried and had to force him to stay out for a while. Even after he stopped needing that particular reminder of her, Kurt still had to fill the void she left behind and could only do that through two things: Makeup and shopping.
- He's already sung "I Want To Hold Your Hand" and "Blackbird" in two separate emotional crises. Also, why else would he have the Warblers sing "Silly Love Songs" at Breadstix for their "Lonely Hearts Club Dinner."
- To make it even more awesome, he's a direct descendant(grandchild? great grandchild?) of Tiana
- Confirmed, sort of, in "2009." While he didn't actually try to commit suicide, Kurt was extremely depressed and contemplating suicide enough to pick up one of Emma's pamphlets.
- The study's findings were essentially that gay teens were getting pregnant/impregnated because they were trying to fit in with the straight majority.
- In "The Rhodes Not Taken," when Puck tells the Glee club that Quinn is pregnant, Kurt looks shocked and a little bit anxious. But when Puck tells them that Finn is the father, Kurt laughs out loud, and then proudly announces the news to Rachel.
- At the end of "Throwdown," during the Keep Holding On number, Quinn and Kurt spend an unusual amount of time staring lovingly into each others' eyes and dancing together.
- During "Wheels," Kurt and his dad discuss Kurt's sexuality. Kurt says, "You don't have to worry about me getting anyone pregnant," and then laughs. * This would also explain why Mercedes harshly tells Puck to back off in "Ballad." She's just looking out for her BFF. "You're the baby's daddy," she tells Puck, "but it takes a hell of a lot more to be a father, and that role has already been cast."
- Of course she tried to "save" him from homosexuality.
- This would also explain the furious dry-humping during Hair/Crazy in Love.
- But didn't Kurt mention in "Hairography" that it was the first time Quinn ever talked to him? Unless they only previously communicated with e-mails and written notes....this theory is pretty much debunked.
- That scene could easily be seen as a "Why hello stranger! * wink wink" conversation.
- It should also be noted that talking doesn't have a whole lot to do with the act of baby-making.
- It's possible that Kurt lied about that to protect Quinn. If he just stepped back and pretended that their relationship hadn't happened, it would have made Quinn's life a little easier, and they both would have appreciated that and understood the reasons for it.
- It should be noted that Quinn is the one who tries to hook up Mercedes and Kurt, telling Mercedes "You've gotta scoop that." When Mercedes says she doesn't think she's his "type," Quinn assures Mercedes that Kurt is quite straight.
- And Kurt happens to know for a fact that Finn is attracted to loose women.
- I know this is WMG, but are you new? Kurt asked Finn point blank what he likes in women, Finn said he DID NOT like that, and therefore he helped Rachel whorify herself under the auspice that it's what Finn "wants" - Finn's oblivious (as always), Rachel wants Finn to like her, Kurt wants to knock off the competition. Further confirmed by the in-character Glee Tour poem that Kurt reads to Blaine, starting with, "I have never loved another, except for last year when I was in love with my step-brother."
- It should be noted that Quinn was trying to convince Mercedes to go after Kurt because she KNEW he would reject her because he was gay. That was the whole damn point because Sue told Quinn and Santana to start taking down the Glee club kids. So way to Completely Miss the Point there. Bud
- And Kurt happens to know for a fact that Finn is attracted to loose women.
- It probably involved Crossdressing from one or both.
- Officially canon.◊
- They've been partners in most of the dance numbers lately, and even shared a cute little embrace-thing in "Hello Goodbye." This is my new Fanon, I think.
- But in Laryngitis, Kurt says he's never even kissed a girl. Most people would assume that also means he hasn't slept with one either. That being said, this one's pretty much jossed.
- If I recall that exchange correctly, it went like this: Sue: "Have you ever even kissed a boy?" Kurt: "No." Sue: "Have you kissed a girl?" Kurt: "No." Kurt doesn't say he hasn't even kissed a girl, he just says he hasn't kissed a girl. Kissing isn't strictly necessary for baby-making. Also, there's always the chance that he's lying: one would imagine that if Kurt and Quinn had had... something... that resulted in Quinn getting pregnant, Kurt would like to keep it as quiet as possible, especially when the blame's already on another guy. Hence, when Sue asked him if he's kissed a girl, Kurt thought about the affair with Quinn (which might or might not have involved kissing) and answered "no", because he didn't want to even remotely admit to having slept with Quinn.
- But...but... the one on Daria had pigtails!
- Brittany from Daria had a last name (I think it was Taylor) and they are both takes on typical dumb, blond cheerleader stereotype.
- It was revealed in Brittany/Britney that Brittany's full name is Brittany Susan Pierce.
- Well in Lean on Me they were hugging and grinning, so if she does, she's not doing a great job of it.
- She was shown cheating off Quinn so obviously she's not passing Spanish easily.
- It's mentioned in that same scene that she was on meds because she had a cold.
- Actually, she said she took all her medication at once because she had a cold.
- The side effects of too many antibiotics are diarrhea, hives, and a yeast infection. She also wouldn't have been prescribed antibiotics for a cold, because colds are caused by a virus and don't work. Brittany probably had some kind of STD that started with "flu-like symptoms," but didn't understand the difference.
- It's mentioned in that same scene that she was on meds because she had a cold.
- According to The Other Wiki, Heather Morris plays Brittany as "literally insane", so I think you're on the ball there.
- Mr. Schue: (writing "LOVE" on the white board) I've got one word for you...Brittany: (raises her hand) Is it "love"? I'm totally gonna graduate now!
There are some others that could go either way as well, though:
- Holy: You know why I know that?Brittany: You're psychic.
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- Mr. Schue: What's your favorite song of all time?Brittany: My Headband.
Keep in mind, she didn't actually see Rachel sing My Headband. Related to that, her homage to My Headband, My Cup, may have been her extending that joke. Santana never laughs at Brittany's strangeness, but if she was making a joke, Santana would be the most likely to catch on to that first, and she could barely hide her laughter during My Cup.
- A better WMG, and related to her knowledge of cats: Toxoplasmosis.
Now, she's in Shue's class, so probably knows about his interest in music. She nearly got Beiste fired for inappropriate actions towards a student, so she could have set up the former glee coach being fired and knew Will would take over. Then, because she has Santana wrapped around her little finger, she managed to get into the glee club by supporting Quinn and forming the Unholy Trinity. She purposefully flunks so badly that she has a 0.0 GPA - even idiots can get a 1.2 from the occasional D - so she can sit on peacefully in the background, observing and scheming. When she needs to pass a Spanish quiz (with no affect on the GPA) to stay on the Cheerios, though, she somehow manages - she probably noticed the feud from Sue's end and figured with a sudden Spanish quiz that Will would actually let people fail, just to annoy Sue. The rest of the time she makes her attempts at cheating blatant so she appears as Too Dumb to Live.
Her outbursts are all inconsequential so as to appear stupid, and accidentally promoted her intelligence by knowing that a mallard is a male duck. Ballad and mallard are only slightly homophonic, she had to think it up quickly and couldn't come up with anything closer.
She really wants Santana to come out, but wants her to be comfortable with doing it, so first she "accidentally" outs her "unintentionally" (everyone does seem to know, though...). Santana feels like protector of Brittany, Brittany probably began to pander up to her in Cheerios, acting The Ditz, until Santana naturally assumed the position, so feels like convincing Brittany that their relationship isn't cheating is protecting the girl she loves and who she knows loves her from feeling guilty about cheating on Artie. Brittany making Santana feel the need to do this allows her the chance to come to terms with being gay and prepare to come out in private, all the while encouraging her (Santana) to do so to make sure she thinks about it and forcing her to spend more time making sure it's the right time by refusing to go out with her publicly.
- She is often staring at Rachel, they appear to be disapproving and/or angry... but now that we know how "close" she is from Brittany, there is a whole new level of meaning to them.
- Well this could be plausible, considering that in Blame It On The Alcohol, when Rachel and Blaine are performing "Don't You Want Me Baby" Santana is drunkenly declaring "I want you, I do."
2. Her parents are neglectful/completely absent.This is a little more far-fetched, but wait for it. She dresses and acts very provocatively, and even said herself that she never says no to boys. She got into physical fights with both Mercedes and Quinn. She's disrespectful to Will and Emma but slavishly obedient to Sue, who is verbally and emotionally abusive. She got a boob job so that, in her own words, people would pay more attention to her. She has only one true friend, who is a complete ditz but very affectionate. The only times we see her laughing and happy are when the Glee Club is performing all together, as a family. Clearly, this girl is acting out because she's desperate for the attention that she never receives at home.
Given the kind of show Glee is, the odds are very high that, should Santana's parents ever show, they'll be option #1. But, for a little bit of taking-things-out-of-context evidence that could support either theory, in "Funk," after Sue abandons the Cheerios to their own devices for a little while, Will finds Santana in the hallway...sobbing "Daddy, Daddy," to herself.
- Actually it seems more likely to be #2, especially since the writers have hinted that Santana's coming out story won't be as easy as Kurt's with the parents reaction.
This is supported the most obviously by her sex scene with Finn. She says to him, "It takes until about the 20th time for that feeling of accomplishment to kick in," and she seems entirely unenthusiastic about having sex with him. You may be thinking, "But what about Puck?" If she's making up her attraction to guys in her head to feel normal, she would have an easier time convincing herself she likes Puck because she admires his baddassery and thinks of him as a friend. This combined with the dominance she exudes over him would be enough to convince her she likes him, since she's unaware of what liking somebody feels like. However, she doesn't seem to have any actual feelings for him; She dumped him in a heartbeat when she found out his grades were slipping, and she's not fooling anybody about it ("You're getting naked with Puckerman.")
You may ask, "So why does she have sex with so many guys if she doesn't actually want them?" Again, it's a power thing to her. Santana doesn't have too many real friends (hense why she gets upset when she finds out she wasn't invited to the meeting of Glee club girls for Kurt's sake), but she's popular, and she'll do almost anything to keep that popularity up. Plus, her sleeping around would help to keep her in the dark about herself, as she doesn't want to acknowledge that she's a lesbian.
As a disclaimer, I'm not trying to suggest there are No Bisexuals in the Glee-verse (or real life, for that matter); Heck, Glee has a canonically bisexual character right next to Santana. However, Brittany seems to be genuinely interested in the boys and girls she hooks up with, whereas Santana seems to be using men for a power trip, and so she can stay snugly in the closet.
- Inserting a fictional person into the list is rather easy since the show is fiction.
- However, it should be noted that the Gulf War ended early 1991. This makes Finn no younger than 19 at this point if his father had actually died in the Gulf.
- Writers Cannot Do Math. Distressing since this is basic arithmetic we're talking about.
- Maybe he's Eric Weiss and had to abandon his family for national security reasons. Carole probably told Finn the Gulf War story because that's what the government told her.
- Probably jossed as of Yes/No.
- If this is true, it would be pretty awesome, as this kind of storyline(a teen doubting their sexuality) is always used on girls
- He was murdered by the cheating Warblers that he exposed.
- Or, he was murdered by a jealous Jesse St. James who predicted another National's win by the New Directions, coached by Finn.
- So Finn died of overdose at about 30? (totally missing the point, but it is written in there)
Pretty much anything that is said about Mike above applies here, and again, Matt was the one that scored the second lowest (only above Rachel), possible because people don't know... what he is doing.
- Original poster of the "Mike is gay" WMG. While it could be that they're both gay (and a couple) it's worth nothing than in "Bad Romance", Mike was the only male (besides Will... and Artie) who was cheering. In "Express Yourself", he was sitting with Kurt, while the others kept a distance from each other, and was kinda neutral about the performance.
- I was pointed out because of the Glist thing and for pure guessing sake xD
- Unfortunate Implications aside, I must say that from personal experience a large group of gays guys in a group like this is Truth in Television xP.
- Fans usually pair him with Mercedes, this could be used to make a joke of her Fag Hag nature.
- In "A Very Glee Christmas" he uses a ReWalk. It's not a permenant solution, but it does give him options.
- Therefore making them a potential Token Minority Couple
- He has made at least two bi throwaway lines in the past, and has always admired Blaine's talent. Maybe he wants to admire Blaine's "talent" in another sense...
- Sam might also try to see guys on the side, and Kurt will have to decide if I'm a Man; I Can't Help It worth compromising his principles.
- Sub-WMG: Sam left his old school because of the stigma of having been institutionalized or mercilessly teased/shunned as a result of being a guy with any sort of eating/purging disorder in addition to the "normal" exercise.
- HINTED?! I thought it was made very, very clear he's manorexic.
The show has been hinting at Sam having some homoerotic tendencies for a while now (e.g. the "balls in his mouth" comment, the joke to Artie about their girlfriends being great friends and "we should be that close, too," etc.). And we know that Sam was originally supposed to be the Kurt boyfriend character until they decided that he should end up with Quinn, but Ryan Murphy has said he's bored of Sam/Quinn and they broke up with "Comeback." His relationship with Santana is not likely to last now that she's admitted that she doesn't love Sam and wants to be with Brittany, and is just waiting for her to break up with Artie. With the increasing clues that Blaine has no interest in Kurt beyond friendship and that Kurt is probably going to be back at New Directions very soon (some spoilers I saw about the Regionals episode said just this), maybe Sam will come out of the closet and he and Kurt will end up together? Maybe Santana's coming-out will inspire him to be honest about his sexuality, too.
[WMG: Sam is Obfuscating Stupidity in his relationship with Brittany]]His sudden shift from average intelligence to being almost as dim as Brittany is rather jarring. Sam possibly began pretending to be as unintelligent as she was in order to help her feel like she wasn't alone - and in the process fell for her. Except now he can't come clean about not being that stupid, because then she wouldn't be able to trust him and she'd dump him.
- Sue: "I was first aroused, then disgusted."
This may mean that she has feelings for him. It's possible that they'll become a couple with the gender roles switched, with Sue being the masculine part of the couple and Sandy being the feminine part.
- Not really; people can pick up lingo pretty easily especially if it uses standard English and/or means exactly what it says on the tin. Live action is also a term that is used outside of role playing such as in movies. It's not really that much of a stretch that Sue, a fairly intelligent women, would pick up on a term and figure out what it means or that she might have come across it outside of context of a role playing situation. Not to mention that she probably at least gets to know what each club is about to better buy them a cat and then punch them in the face.
- Sue said she had an elective hysterectomy to lose weight for a cheer leading completion, which would account for all of the above. And wouldn't be possible if she was biologically male.
- Alternatively, she's the cause of her Sueness because Sue was her protector when they were young. She's so amazing at verbal abuse because she learned how to dish it back to the bullies who would pick on her sister, is obsessed with having the spotlight on her as a leftover of her drawing attention away from her sister, and her need to win stems from needing to validate for the the bullies how much better she was than them, as well as trying to make her sister happy.
- Sorta confirmed. Sue talks about how she adored her older sister and was truly surprised and shocked that people would bully and pick on her.
- Or, alternatively, she could realize that she's there as a plot device; if the Glee club ever DOES get broken up, bam, the game ends and the show canceled.
- Makes sense. I'm sure they both have tiger blood in their veins.
- Jossed. Dr Shane was Emma's psychiatrist, and the character has not recurred to date.
- NOT SO FAST, BUCKO!! Charlie Sheen's has a new series premeiring on FX called "Anger Management" where he plays an anger management therapist. Not who needs anger management counseling more than Sue??
- Jossed. Dr Shane was Emma's psychiatrist, and the character has not recurred to date.
- Emma says that she understands Terri's actions in lying about her pregnancy because Will is a lot to lose. She knows that she's pretty much stolen another woman's husband and will become just as possessive and jealous as Terri was which may cause Will to seek out Terri for understanding, comfort, and perspective which will just cause the whole cycle to start over again.
- She does seem to acknowledge he's repeating the same patterns, though, because she says, "How is you compromising yourself for my crazy any different than you compromising yourself for hers (Terri's)?"
- ...angry?
- Not the original poster but during the episode it would have been hot sex. I can picture them having sex and Will still asks straight after if Bryan's changed his mind about Glee Club, Bryan says no so Will would get frustrated and storm out. After Will watches Bryan's debut performance it would have been celebration sex though.
- Fun part is that Bryan has been the character that shows the most chemistry with Will.
- Not the original poster but during the episode it would have been hot sex. I can picture them having sex and Will still asks straight after if Bryan's changed his mind about Glee Club, Bryan says no so Will would get frustrated and storm out. After Will watches Bryan's debut performance it would have been celebration sex though.
- In my mind, Bryan Ryan will come back and he'll be the Team Dad to the Glee Club whilst Will is the Team Mom
- In the first episode of season 2 he does team up with Sue against Coach Beiste, but has an attack of conscience when he realizes he actually hurt her feelings and is also hurting his kids in the process as well.
- I know, but that could be fuel for the fire.
- The summary for "Blame It on the Alcohol" suggests that Will and Shannon start hanging out and having fun together outside of school, of course the producers also say that Holly Holiday is coming back and she and Will might have a little lip lock. Maybe they're trying to set up another Love Triangle for Will?
- This seems extremely likely. Especially since Will has a new lover in the form of Holly, and Emma still has feelings for him which is putting a strain on her marriage. Bringing Terri back to stir the pot seems like something the producers would do.
- Also, being happy with motherhood might counter Will cheating her.
As a "bonus", when she finally starts to love the baby, Quinn and/or Puck will want it back.
- Very likely; Law of Conservation of Detail means that it's unlikely that she would be made a cheerleader without this having some plot impact.
- Quinn and Puck will finally come together and either decide to keep the baby or give it up for adoption. But then Terri rears her ugly head and tries to claim the baby is her's, believing it will help her win Will back.
- Word of God is that she thinks of Finn as her second chance. She crushed the dreams of a boy in Glee Club who showed promise and ended up ruining his life. She wants to redeem herself by nurturing Finn's dreams and talents.
- Didn't she state in episode 2 that it was because she fell into a run-off lake at a diary lake? Though, there could be more than she's telling us...
- Tina bared her arms during the dance scene with Kurt. Kurt or Britt probably would've noticed.
- On the other hand, given that she apparently likes Artie, and his reaction to finding out about the fake stutter, maybe she'll try to give herself a real disability out of desperation?
- Being a cutter isn't a disability, it's a 'symptom' of a mental illness, which we have absolutely no reason to think she has. Except for her "crippling shyness", which could be perceived as Social Anxiety Disorder, but then I highly doubt she could perform (somewhat obscenely, even, at times) without having a panic attack.
- Confirmed but not because he's part Asian.
- Well, Will did kiss Emma, so at least a little bit is Jossed.
- Sort of confirmed. She joins it as an 11th-Hour Ranger, but it's only temporary. Now Lauren, on the other hand...
- Even if this happens, the unfortunate implications would be averted with the addition of a new, very devoted Christian character promised by Ryan Murphy in the second season.
- She's through with both Puck and Finn for different reasons, and Artie is a genuinely nice and understanding guy who know's what it's like to be given a rough hand. There are small moments between them that suggest this isn't outside the realm of posibility: First there's "Wheels" where she refuses to take any of the money from the bake sale to pay for her sonogram because although they made enough so no one would miss it, it would still be stealing from someone who has become her friend, plus she was one of the first and most enthusiastic ones to congratulate him at the end of "Proud Mary", then there's the moment in "Ballads" where she is genuinely surprised and happy to be paired with him, and in "Sectionals" she is dancing with him during "My Life Would Suck Without You." In fact, after the events in "Wheels" she seems to be his new de facto partner in many of the numbers, considering that the glee kids help come up with their own choreography there could to be something to this. Also, while teen pregnancy isn't a disablity it is something that she can't "just turn off" and will most likely affect her for the rest of her life, the same as his being in a wheelchair.
- Alternately, the pairs at the end of the "My Life Would Suck Without You" will be the couples that form in the second half of the first season and into the (possible) second, with the exception of Tina and Kurt, for obvious reasons.
- At the end of "Dream On", as Tina dances with Mike Chang, Quinn rubs Artie's shoulder to comfort him.
- Everyone pairs Quinn with the most random people because she's nice to all of them. Has it occurred to anyone that maybe Quinn is just the nicest character in the cast? No, not really. Arguably, Brittany is sweeter, but Santana has such an influence on her that it doesn't really get to show as much.
- This is actually likely now given that Quinn has regained her popularity and Artie is looking for some way to get Tina's attention again. What better one than dating the head cheerleader?
- Everyone except Rachel, that is. They can leave that one to real life – and the shippers.
- Would also explain how she ever lasted so long with the whole celibacy thing: just no real attraction to the guys.
- And she IS kind of obsessed with Rachel. The Minor Flaw, Major Breakup trope was an interesting read the other day. So in its original context "man hands" really meant that everything else about the person was perfect?
- When she wore the "Likes Girls" shirt not the "Lucy Caboosey" one for Born This Way on tour.
- Or when she slept with Santana, the only out girl. Twice. At least.
- That all could just mean she's bisexual. But it's practically canon, and she hasn't come out because we already have a blonde, bisexual, cheerleader: the story needs no more.
- Neither Sunshine nor Sam seem likely to become this character. Given what Quinn said to Sue at the Cheerios auditions, it looks like the creators just decided to scrap the character and instead write her attributes into Quinn (which somewhat makes sense, since we already know Quinn to be very religious and that her parents are politically conservative).
- Based on the press release for "Grilled Cheesus," the character is either Coach Beiste, Sam, a one-off character (who likely won't be a member of the glee club), or an old character (such as Quinn) who's views are coming to light.
- The character seems to have been split up into Quinn (in the season premiere and "Grilled Cheesus"), Sue (in the Rocky Horror episode), and mainly Karofsky.
- She's very much a feminist, she's always wearing a cross necklace, and she's athletic. Quinn is even reminiscent of Buffy: a blonde, shallow cheerleader who goes through enormous character development.
- She also seems to be really wise, which may have to do with the precognitive abilities that Slayers have. I think it's more likely that she's a Potential Slayer though.
- This could even explain why she didn't keep Beth. She would already have trouble keeping up with Glee club and dating while fighting witches [[Spoiler: /demons]] let along taking care of a baby on top of it.
- This could also explain why Quinn wants to be Prom Queen so bad. It is a distraction from missing her daughter, which is why it has grown to obsessive levels.
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- But it would also mean she was 14 when she got pregnant, and Puck was 16. Even though she was canonically 15, and Puck 16, and so underage, the bigger gap does make it seem worse.
- Along with the rest of Dalton Academy. It is just too perfect. Alternatively, Kurt is a Reality Warper or he hallucinated it.
- "Blair" appears to be actually "Blaine"
- All of the above, but replace "Sam" with "Karofsky". He could prevent the Warblers from sabotaging New Directions in a Big Damn Hero moment because he cares about Kurt, while at the same time redeeming himself in New Directions' eyes and causing Kurt to dump Blaine for him. Then Azimio grudgingly gives them his blessing. Yes, I do realize 99% of this is wishful thinking, but a boy can dream right?
- Jossed. No such suspicion ever arose, what with the Warblers being rather sensibler than New Directions and Vocal Adrenaline put together are loopy.
- It's already been established that Blaine likes sports and is quite knowledgeable about football.
- Adding to this, he'll probably be either a wide receiver or a runningback (my money's on the latter). He's not big enough to be a linebacker, he's not tall enough to be a quarterback or a tight end, and pretty much no TV character ever played on the defensive side of a ball.
Everytime we see Blaine hanging out outside of Dalton, it is either with Kurt or Kurt and his friends. We never see him on casual outings with any of the other Warblers; they only spend time together at rehearsal. This would also explain why he fell so in love with Jeremiah, especially since Kurt did the same thing to Finn. It's probably the first time someone has look at him as a person and not a key to a goal.
- Maybe the problem is Kurt? They might not like him, and Blaine and Kurt main topic seem "gay, gay, gay, gay and a purse fell from my mouth". Though it is possible that they don't like Blaine enough as friend exactly because the excessive camp talking.
- While this is an awesome theory, I have to mention the one thing wrong with it: Blaine's parents are alive.
- Blaine could be adopted.
- And the Scarf of Sexual Preference sorted Harry into metrosexual.
- Maybe his sexuality got switched with Ron's somehow (hey, weirder things have happened)— it was bicurious, and after BIOTA...
- People can change, and Harry was eleven when he got sorted. How many people have their sexual orientation all figured out before they go through puberty? As Dumbledore says, maybe they sort too soon.
- You have no idea how popular a theory this is. Glee/HP has probably the most number of crossovers on Fan Fiction.net featuring Harry with at least one other magical person (sometimes Remus or Sirius has his guardian, or sometimes Teddy as his adopted son) moving to Ohio to find a "normal" life, meeting Kurt and either joining New Directions or working at McKinley HS.
- Blaine could be adopted.
- THIS
- Made of Win
- I hope they take the opportunity to explore polyamorous relationships.
- Blaine prefers the Eleventh Doctor, Kurt is a Tennant fanboy. They watch it together every week and argue.
- Jossed as of "The Wedding." We meet his mom.
- I was thinking the exact same thing! God forbid what happens if he and Kurt ever break up. It'll be Bambi all over again.
- It'll be in a flashback, as a mash-up with I'll cover you, reprise
- Well Ryan Murphy did write The Break-Up, the episode where Blaine begs Kurt for forgiveness after cheating on him.
- He mentions his father being a state's attorney, so hardly. Unless he was lying.
- As on On My Way, Sebastian and Blaine seem to have made up...
- On the other hand, Karofsky may not have joined because as a closet case, he would be even less inclined to have anyone believe he`s gay than the straight jocks. (Also, I`m a Karommel shipper too)
- It would add some complexity if it turned out that what they really object to isn't Kurt's homosexuality or Finn's percieved bisexuality but being hard gays they resent what they see as effeminate behavior.
- Or they are just that deep on the closet, you know, it is only gay if balls are touching.
- Or they have the same attitude as Brittany and Santana. It's not gay if they don't have a relationship - they just enjoy screwing each other.
- Or they are just that deep on the closet, you know, it is only gay if balls are touching.
- Well, it turns out Karofsky is gay, so this could happen - but probably not for a while, as Kurt and Blaine demonstrated.
- Jossed as of "On My Way", where we're told that Azimio never wants to see him again after he's outed.
- I really doubt this, mainly because it's been established that Karofsky is not a bad kid. He was a good student with a nice personality and good grades, but when he started having issues with his sexuality he began to become a bully. And he knows that he can trust the people who know his secret because Santana's using him to keep her sexuality under wraps, and one of the first things Kurt said was that he would not out Karofsky. Also, now that Dave's on the Bully Whips he is highly against bullying. I'm seriously confused how Status Quo Is God figures into this, since this isn't anything like the other examples the show had (like Rachel's crush on Will). It was character development, not some random thing that Dave decided on a whim. The more I read this the less sense it makes. If he wanted to stay off the gaydar, then why in the hell would he join what is obvioulsy the most well known show choir in the city? A move like that would make everybody notice, and that's the last thing he wants. No offense, but I think you're trying to make him a Death Eater here, despite the fact that Characterization Marches On and this theory is seriously flawed.
- Actually, Karofsky is a bad kid. He's been a bad kid the majority he's been on the series. Which is canon fact, not some ridiculously reaching Flanderization a la Ron the Death Eater. He had to be blackmailed into creating the Bully Whips, that apology to New Directions was obviously scripted phony and Santana was the driving force of all of that, not him. Also, one seemingly genuine apology to Kurt does not a redemption make, not after all he's done and we have no guarantee whatsoever he won't fall back on the same behavior. Especially as we're told more than once one of the main reasons he bullied in the first place was due to fear of his big gay secret being discovered and we clearly see he's still cowering in fear as of "Prom Queen" with him running away. He wouldn't be the first character in this series either to seem to show signs of making a Heel–Face Turn one minute, only to turn back to bad behavior and for whatever their justifications the next minute. I'm not really sure where you're getting Karofsky having a "nice personality" in canon either, but are you referring to Karofsky's dad saying he Used to Be a Sweet Kid with the "cub scout" statement in "Born This Way"? Aside from my considerable reluctance trusting his opinion on anything and him trying to handwave his son's blatant homophobia as saying "Didn't we all act like that when we were his age?", if he has to go that far back to find any decent traits in his kid? There is something seriously wrong here. Karofsky - as an Ironic Echo to Sunshine transferred to Carmel in the first ep of season two - recruited off to Carmel makes a hell of a lot more sense than him suddenly growing a pair, really start atoning for the things he did and fight against the intolerance as Kurt and friends seem heading towards because that's just too damn scary for him. Karofsky has a history of falling back on the bully reputation and hiding behind a fear-mongering persona and running away to protect himself at the expense of others. Ironically, the Bully Whips themselves were basically fear-mongers disguised as guardian angels (the red costume was very literal [1]) in some farce of atonement as Santana started them in attempt to put a leash on Karofsky, considering he was still bullying as late as "A Night of Neglect", and use Karofsky's popularity to win herself prom queen, but she had to try to improve Karofsky's public image first. It's no wonder, if Karofsky was attempting to use the Bully Whips in some feeble attempt to atone without actually atoning, making a real stand or coming out, it was inevitably doomed to failure. He can't hide behind the fear-mongering in McKinley anymore while Santana, Kurt and Blaine know his secret and I don't ever see him joining New Directions with the reputation they have in McKinley. I don't see him fitting in at Dalton Academy at all, so it's down to Carmel of the schools relevant to the plot he could escape or be recruited to. Vocal Adrenaline happens to be one of the biggest, most powerful bads of them all of "Glee". Perfect for a character like him to hide behind, a means he can continue this charade of power AND he escapes McKinley before his Big Secret reveals itself. He'd even get to sing and dance, which would appease the Karofsky fans who keep begging for Max to sing. Karofsky would probably even be The Right Hand as Word of God says Charice, the actress who played Sunshine, won't be back for season 3 [2]. Carmel also isn't in the same city as McKinley, it isn't even in the same state. Carmel is in Indiana. Considering their school mascot is a bronze statue of a shark eating a baby seal and Vocal Adrenaline are absolute gods in Carmel? I'd ask why Karofsky hasn't transferred yet! He'd get to be every bit The Bully AND get to sing & dance. Maybe he'd even come out. It's not like he'd get bullied in Carmel since he'd be protected as a member of Vocal Adrenaline. I don't ever see him having the balls enough to join New Directions in McKinley High. New Directions are absolute losers in McKinley and he wouldn't want to associate with that in fear of being bullied or people speculating he's gay.
- Um. What? OK, yes, Karofsky spent a majority of the series as a bad kid until we found out about his secret. But considering the highly homophobic atmosphere at McKinley, it's not really a surprise that he panicked and did anything he could to hide his sexuality. But just like his bullying is canon, so is the fact that he was a nice kid. His first apology might have been scripted, but the second one (the very tearful and emotional one) that he gave to Kurt was obviously genuine. Also? Him running away during the Prom King/Queen dance was perfectly sensible because coming out is fucking scary. Regardless of the circumstances. It's not a reputation thing like so many other people's problems, he is being put through emotional hell because of this. And Mr. K never said that he was only a good kid when he was a Cub Scout, he said that the change in his behaviour was recent. If he was reaching as far back as elementary years, then there wouldn't have been a point in even bringing it up. He's not going to defend his kid with "when he was 10 he was pleasant", he's going to defend him with "a year ago he was pleasant". Karofsky wouldn't be anything like an ironic echo because he wasn't bullied out of the club like Sunshine. And he really is atoning; with both the heartfelt apology and the fact that he and Santana have helped bring bullying down (or at least made a genuine effort, and thereÂ’s a million other epileptic trees explaining what the hell happened with the prom vote). Fighting intolerance wasn't scary, but coming out was. And I can very easily see him joining New Directions: he gets outed. He'd have nothing left in the school, but of course everybody in New Directions would support him because they understand at least why he's acting out, and Santana, Kurt, and possibly Blaine could vouch for how he's changed for the better. If anybody is still unsure, Rachel would remind them that the Glee club is supposed to accept everybody regardless of their faults. Hell, the things Puck did to Kurt are much worse than anything we saw Karofsky do, except for the death threat but most people are pretty sure that was part figure-of-speech and part absolute panic. Hmm...looking at that, I suppose that if the club still didn't accept him after that, then it would be more likely for him transfer to Carmel...maybe. Except Vocal Adrenaline is nothing like New Directions. He would join New Directions because they would accept and support him. But Vocal Adrenaline lacks the same acceptance of New Directions; they are 100% devoted to the talent. It isn't Carmel's loser's club, it is where all of the budding musical superstars go for extreme exposure and training. And again, running off to join a different show choir is going to attract more attention to him than joining New Directions, because a) nobody expects him to join any kind of choir whatsoever, and b) none of his friends will know why he is running off, and would become even more confused and curious. So why hasn't Karofsky transferred yet? Because it would be a stupid move. By that logic, why hasn't the rest of New Directions transferred yet? And then there's the fact that Dave would have to get his parents to go along with it. And the only way they might decide to move is if he came out to them, which he probably wouldn't do. And if he DID, then they would more likely suggest Dalton because of the zero-tolerence policy, the fact that it is closer and they probably wouldn't have to move (And just in case, Jesse's family didn't move. His parents were on vacation and he was staying with an uncle living in Lima), and the fact that Kurt went there and did great, and only transferred back because he missed his friends. Going to Carmel solely because, as you claim, he's a bad, bad person and apparently so is everyone else in VA (which is untrue, they're just really competetive and some of them dislike even that fact) is moronic. And how would coming out there be different from coming out in McKinley? He'd still lose the same friends in either place, still have to deal with the emotional ringer. Maybe it makes a bit of logical sense, but is completely out of character for him. And when I said Ron The Deatheater, I was talking about what you were doing, not the show. It's canon that he is a good kid going through some serious problems, and it's you who is claiming that he is a cowardly ass-hat who has always been mean and is irredeemable.
- Actually, Karofsky is a bad kid. He's been a bad kid the majority he's been on the series. Which is canon fact, not some ridiculously reaching Flanderization a la Ron the Death Eater. He had to be blackmailed into creating the Bully Whips, that apology to New Directions was obviously scripted phony and Santana was the driving force of all of that, not him. Also, one seemingly genuine apology to Kurt does not a redemption make, not after all he's done and we have no guarantee whatsoever he won't fall back on the same behavior. Especially as we're told more than once one of the main reasons he bullied in the first place was due to fear of his big gay secret being discovered and we clearly see he's still cowering in fear as of "Prom Queen" with him running away. He wouldn't be the first character in this series either to seem to show signs of making a Heel–Face Turn one minute, only to turn back to bad behavior and for whatever their justifications the next minute. I'm not really sure where you're getting Karofsky having a "nice personality" in canon either, but are you referring to Karofsky's dad saying he Used to Be a Sweet Kid with the "cub scout" statement in "Born This Way"? Aside from my considerable reluctance trusting his opinion on anything and him trying to handwave his son's blatant homophobia as saying "Didn't we all act like that when we were his age?", if he has to go that far back to find any decent traits in his kid? There is something seriously wrong here. Karofsky - as an Ironic Echo to Sunshine transferred to Carmel in the first ep of season two - recruited off to Carmel makes a hell of a lot more sense than him suddenly growing a pair, really start atoning for the things he did and fight against the intolerance as Kurt and friends seem heading towards because that's just too damn scary for him. Karofsky has a history of falling back on the bully reputation and hiding behind a fear-mongering persona and running away to protect himself at the expense of others. Ironically, the Bully Whips themselves were basically fear-mongers disguised as guardian angels (the red costume was very literal [1]) in some farce of atonement as Santana started them in attempt to put a leash on Karofsky, considering he was still bullying as late as "A Night of Neglect", and use Karofsky's popularity to win herself prom queen, but she had to try to improve Karofsky's public image first. It's no wonder, if Karofsky was attempting to use the Bully Whips in some feeble attempt to atone without actually atoning, making a real stand or coming out, it was inevitably doomed to failure. He can't hide behind the fear-mongering in McKinley anymore while Santana, Kurt and Blaine know his secret and I don't ever see him joining New Directions with the reputation they have in McKinley. I don't see him fitting in at Dalton Academy at all, so it's down to Carmel of the schools relevant to the plot he could escape or be recruited to. Vocal Adrenaline happens to be one of the biggest, most powerful bads of them all of "Glee". Perfect for a character like him to hide behind, a means he can continue this charade of power AND he escapes McKinley before his Big Secret reveals itself. He'd even get to sing and dance, which would appease the Karofsky fans who keep begging for Max to sing. Karofsky would probably even be The Right Hand as Word of God says Charice, the actress who played Sunshine, won't be back for season 3 [2]. Carmel also isn't in the same city as McKinley, it isn't even in the same state. Carmel is in Indiana. Considering their school mascot is a bronze statue of a shark eating a baby seal and Vocal Adrenaline are absolute gods in Carmel? I'd ask why Karofsky hasn't transferred yet! He'd get to be every bit The Bully AND get to sing & dance. Maybe he'd even come out. It's not like he'd get bullied in Carmel since he'd be protected as a member of Vocal Adrenaline. I don't ever see him having the balls enough to join New Directions in McKinley High. New Directions are absolute losers in McKinley and he wouldn't want to associate with that in fear of being bullied or people speculating he's gay.
- There's also some evidence for this. When Dave warned Kurt to keep an eye on his boyfriend, it was because he knew from firsthand experience what Sebastian is like. Also, from the looks of Scandals, its primary customers seem to be older me, meaning it's more likely Dave is one of the few people around Sebastian's age who goes there.
- Probably Jossed ("probably" because really, there's no telling what Sebastian actually meant with that remark - he might refer to a casual shag, in which case it wasn't Karofsky, or he might just be making a joke for his own amusement on Karofsky's expense) as of "On My Way". They did meet at Scandals and Karofsky tried to hit on Sebastian, but Sebastian rejected him in his trademark gentle and considerate way.
- Matt Rutherford
- Sean Fretthold
- Ken Tanaka after he recovered from his mental breakdown
- Harmony
- The football player whom's mom Puck slept with
- He goes to Dalton, obviously. :P
- Jossed.
- After he attempted suicide and Kurt told him to find another school he will decide to go to Dalton, where he knows he'll be accepted for who he is.
[[WMG Karofsky will pull a Big Damn Heroes]]Kurt and Blaine will be out on a date, when they will be jumped and beaten. But before things turn to Matthew Shepard territory, Karofsky will miraculously make the save.
- It was Karofsky who stuffed the ballot box to elect Kurt Prom Queen.
- For obvious reasons.
- THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
- The Glee club will be rehearsing for whatever, and both will walk in and show the kids how to do it. As both have established UST with Will, they'll fight over him in front of the whole club by singing"What Is This Feeling".
- Any episode with Figgins singing with the guys would be too awesome for our brains to comprehend; therefore, no one will ever be allowed to watch it.
- Or, he subconsciously wants to be dominated or in a position of powerlessness. That's why he lets Sue get away with so much crap.
- Jesse graduated last year. It's possible they might date if he stuck around, but I'm pretty sure he got accepted to a college somewhere else...
- He was "accepted with a full ride to a little university called the University of California at Los Angeles. Maybe you've heard of it? It's in Los Angeles."
- While it's still unlikely that they will end up dating, Ryan Murphy has all but confirmed that Jesse will be back this season. Probably sometime in spring, once Jonathan Groff has finished with the play he's doing in London.
- My guess is he willing left school because at Carmel High he was the big fish in a little pond but in college he was forced to compete with kids just as talented as him, if not more so and combining that with the pressure of his studies he couldn't deal with the situation.
- I (who am a Jesse fan) pleads Crippling Overspecialization. He knows everything about show choir (see his knowledge of Stephen Sondheim and his advice to New Directions, which they didn't take and lost), but he doesn't know much of anything else because if Carmel got "some Asian kid to take Math, English and scientific for me" why would he know anything about recessions?
- Well, Brittany noticed the resemblance, and they looked at each other amused, and "long-lost relative" is one of the few plots Glee didn't do at all in the second season...
- The piano is his TARDIS. He just climbs out when someone needs him to play.
- Wonder if he's friends with another pianist Doll?
- Because the actor playing Brad is called Brad Ellis?
- This can't be the case. He's seen without his piano in "Saturday Night Glee-ver", and if he doesn't show real sadness and hurt in response to Santana's unnecessary and cruel aside, he does a pretty good job of faking it.
- Not to mention his superpower of always knowing what song to play.
- If this character turned into Karofsky, then you're absolutely right.
- If this character turned into Karofsky, it seems like Santana is shaping up to be his foil - in terms of their different reactions to being closeted gays.
- You know, most LGBTIQ people don't consider "love the sinner, hate the sin" to be that much "better" or less hateful than blatant, all-out homophobia. We're not stupid. You're still telling us (even if you're not forcing us) that we should change a very intrinsic part of who we are to fit within your narrow religious code, even if you're trying to hide behind a veneer of faux-concern. As a bi woman I don't understand what's so "refreshing" about that. What would be refreshing is if homophobia were portrayed as what it is - hate - and we didn't act as though it's not as bad if you have religion backing you up.
- That's not what I'm saying at all. The thing is, we've already had tons of cracks at the right wing and talks about homophobia. The problem I have is not "defending homophobia," I find it terrible too (My best guy friend is gay). I just feel like this character sounds like one more "lookie at how unreasonable and mean those conservative Christians are!" (Quinns DAD, anyone?) character. Even if Kurt is a huge flaming stereotype, who at points even I, as a heterosexual girl, find a tad much, he is still portrayed 99% of the time in a positive light. I don't agree with the "hate the sinner" viewpoint myself...but I don't hate those who do. I'd rather you not mind homosexuality, but if you do, please just act polite to those who are. That is where I stand.
- Doubtful, what with the statements that she will be really vocal about her homophobia and that she and Kurt will "butt heads" frequently, and the writers' need to make Kurt out to be a martyr (see: Theatricality). Now that he's over his crush on Finn, Kurt needs a new source of Gayngst. Besides, nearly every character in this show is Anviliciously stereotyped - of course the Christian girl has to be a closed-minded, over-the-top preachy fundamentalist.
- In all fairness, Word of God has also said that said character would be "sympathetic", so actually, both interpretations can be true with come character development
- The question is, will she be sympathetic in that her views will be treated with respect, or will she be sympathetic in that her views will be portrayed as completely wrong, but with a Freudian Excuse (say, homophobic/Fundamentalist parents)?
- No - the real question is, should prejudice be treated with "respect"? I like to think most viewers don't think so.
- This, exactly. The idea that they might make homophobia out to be "just another viewpoint" should be offending people more than the idea of making the right-wing girl a one-dimensional stereotype (like, what, every other character on the show? Why do we suddenly care only when it's Christian people who are being stereotyped?) Luckily, I think that Ryan Murphy is unlikely to sugarcoat homophobia. They'll probably portray her sympathetically in other respects - as they should - but I can't see him portraying homophobia as anything but just plain old hate. (If you're reading this, Ryan Murphy - do the right thing, don't disappoint me!)
- I'm honestly more troubled by the fact that you seem to think that anyone who has any sort of issue with homosexuality for any reason (even when that reason is rooted in deeply held religious beliefs) is "prejudiced" and "homophobic". If you spend enough time with someone, getting to know them as an individual, you can find all sorts of reasons (and not just race/age/nationality/sexual orientation) to "butt heads" with them.
- Anyone who "has any sort of issue with homosexuality" is prejudiced. That definitely makes them biased, and I think the majority of Glee fans would agree that that bias is inherently wrong. I grew up in a conservative Christian home; some of my own family members genuinely believe that homosexuality is a sin. I understand where they're coming from, and I sympathize with them more than I would if they were just homophobic jerks, but they're still wrong. And I'm not sure what you're getting at with that last point; if Kurt and the Christian character butt heads over something besides his sexuality, then her issue is with Kurt, not with gay people in general, and this whole debate is irrelevent.
- I certainly hope you aren't implying that your family's views are somehow less legitimate because you happen to disagree with them. Forcing a religious person to compromise their beliefs to conform with the rest of the group isn't much different than attempting to force a homosexual to be heterosexual. I honestly don't see any reason why Kurt and this character can't have a frank, honest discussion on homosexuality without it getting preachy. I personally think it would be a nice touch and a good break away from the "homosexual as the eternal victim" cliche. Because while I can't speak for anyone else on here, I happen to think that portraying any group of people as those who can only be picked on and made to suffer... well, more than a little patronizing.
- Try looking at it this way: If Ryan Murphy announced he was going to add a character who was openly racist, would you argue that that character's views should be treated with respect? Would you want to see a scene in which she and Mercedes have an honest discussion of racism where no one is presented as right or wrong? Because to me, homophobia is no different from racism. Condemning someone based on who they date is every bit as stupid and harmful as condemning them based on the color of their skin. I have more patience with my family because I know that they're from a different generation and that their beliefs are rooted in their religion. But I've done a lot of research, and I'm convinced that their reasoning isn't sound. A growing number of Christians, myself included, believe that Jesus would have had no problem with gay people. (There's no way I can dive into that whole debate here; just Google "homosexuality in the Bible" if you're interested.) So, frankly, when it comes to this particular issue, I do think my family's views are less legitimate than mine. Again, that doesn't make them bad people, and I'm certainly not going to force them to compromise their beliefs. But I don't buy that being prejudiced against the LGBT community is just another viewpoint that's as valid as any other. Oh, and I completely agree with you that portraying all gay people as martyrs is patronizing. But Kurt is no martyr. He's just as flawed as any of his straight classmates, there's more to him than his sexuality, and when he does get bullied by homophobes, he fights back.
- And some of Kurt's flaws can make him come across as a Depraved Homosexual. An honest, frank (but rational) discussion might do some good to dispell that. As for the Christian character, I think that even if she's believes that Kurt is a sinner (and he is. As you noted, he certainly isn't without flaws) if she's a rational person, she'll just need to be reminded that she herself is also a sinner. We all are. Of course, if she could be reminded without making her out to be a total hypocrite would be nice. I just think it would be nice if Kurt and the character could simply talk it without anyone freaking out... kind of like what we've had here. Of course, homosexuality is such a polarizing issue that it may not be possible. Someone in the audience (on either or possibly both sides) is likely to get offended. You did raise a good point about what would happen if an openly racist character were on the show. I did my best to put a lot of thought into how to reply and I didn't even consider that. And yes - Kurt's homosexuality is only one aspect of his character (That's kind of what I meant when I said "You find a lot reasons to butt heads with someone when you get to know them"). Likewise, the Christian character's views will only be one aspect of hers. If they can realize that, maybe they can be friends. Who knows? Maybe she'll even be able to help him get closer to his future boyfriend. This has been a very interesting discussion and I think I've learned a lot. I can say some pretty rude things unintentionally sometimes, so I'm grateful that everyone's been so patient. Thank you!
- I don't think anyone is saying that homophobes are inherently hateful people. There are a lot of good people who have fucked-up views on certain subjects. We're just saying that homophobia is not a viewpoint that should be seen as "equal" to support for gay equality. And as a bisexual woman, I'm really sick of this insistence by certain people here that we need to be a little more tolerant of people who are not tolerant of us. Let's get this straight right now: Homophobes are not the victims here. There has yet to be one news story out about a student who killed himself because his gay classmates were teasing him for being homophobic. I've yet to hear anything about homophobes not being allowed to get married or adopt children. When any of those things start happening, let me know and I might reconsider. But right now, your insistence that we need to be nicer to homophobes and treat their hateful opinions with "respect," rather than hoping they change, is patronizing. And part of the reason I know this is because I do have anti-gay friends, who I like and agree with on other things, and I am sick to fucking death of having to hide half of myself around them.
- I would just like to add that homophobia isn't a subjective opinion like "I hate vegetables" or "red is my favorite colour", homophobia, is by definition a form of irrational hatred, prejudice and DISCRIMINATION to a group, someone can be homophobic without going Ax-Crazy towards every LGBT person that they encounter, this doesn't make they form of homophobia okay. And to finish: the homophobe, the LGBT people and the world have nothing to lose, and only to gain if homophobia ceases to exist.
- Agreeing with the above. It's not an opinion that homosexuality hurts nobody and is morally fine, it's a fact. The fact some people are of the view that this is not true does not make them right. I mean, aside from being self evident, there's also the studies that have been conducted into it, the idea of whether or not it's detrimental in any way. The resounding answer tends to be 'no'. Fact of the matter is, I've never victimised somebody with my queerness. But a homophobe victimises queer people by being of the irrational 'opinion' it makes them lesser. The former deserves sympathy. Why should the latter?
- What if you personally believe it's wrong, but you treat people equally and with respect even if they are? Of course, that wouldn't make for good TV.
- Understand this: That it doesn't matter how much homophobic someone is, just the fact that is homophobic makes it wrong (there are levels or wrong of course, but they don't make it acceptable). I also fail to see how someone could "treat people equally" while thinking that some people are doing something wrong, it sounds greatly hipocrite.
- Then it's still assholish. You're basically saying 'I think a major part of your identity is inherently immoral for no good reason, but I'll tolerate you anyway'.
- Somebody's religion isn't a "good reason" for them to PERSONALLY believe something's wrong? (Yeah, this is going off the Glee! topic... but anyway, the girl's probably going to be portrayed as wrong...)
- You can personally believe whatever you want. Nobody is going to put a gun to your head and force you to accept homosexuality, but no one is forcing you to condemn people who haven't wronged you either, just because your beliefs are different from theirs. You have no reason to tell a gay person his lifestyle is immoral, just as you (hopefully) wouldn't tell a Jew, Muslim, or Buddhist their beliefs are wrong if that's how you feel. There's a street called respect, and I believe it goes both ways.
- Yes, religion doesn't justify homophobia. There are tons of Christians out there who are not homophobes (my dad is a pastor and he's one of them). There is more than one way to interpret the Bible, and specifically, there is more than one way to interpret those handful of obscure Bible verses which appear to condemn homosexuality. (And same with other religious texts.) People have used the Bible to uphold racism and sexism as well - is that okay now, too? If your friend said he thought Black people were inferior based on his religion, would you just accept that as just another viewpoint?
- And it isn't a two-way street, or even close to one. No gay person is out there saying that homophobes should not be allowed to legally marry, or that homophobic soldiers should be discharged from the military. But homophobes are doing that to us. We are victims, they are oppressors, and there is no way you can seriously flip that role in any context. As for this idea that there's some big distinction between people who beat up others for being gay and people who just keep their homophobia to themselves - there is, but not as much as some here like to think. I think something a lot of straight people fail to realize is that we don't just want to be tolerated; we want to have all the same rights and privileges straight people now enjoy. That means that as a bi woman, I would like to be able to gush to my friends about girls the way I can about guys. I can't do that with people who think my relationships are morally wrong. I want to be able to have a lavish wedding with all the family invited regardless of whether I marry a man or a woman. I can't have that if my choice makes a bunch of my relatives upset. And at the end of the day, while my anti-gay friends might not voice their bigotry out loud to me, when it comes time to vote on whether people like me have the right to get married, to serve openly in the military, to teach in public schools, to have health benefits, to be protected under hate crimes statutes, or whatever, they're going to vote no on at least some of these. Which means their choices do affect my life. While I respect them as people, I'm not going to respect their hateful views, no matter what bullshit "justification" they have for them. Because by denying my right to be treated as a full citizen, they're not showing me any respect, so why do I owe them any in return?
- How about we cool our heads and remember that this is a theory page, not a forum or debate about anything? Good grief, this is Tvtropes people. If this keeps going it'll just be a vicious cycle that continues on forever. Just respectfully agree to disagree and move on.
- Religious debate always becomes a pissing match. This is all a moot point anyway, since it doesn't seem like this character ever made it past the drawing board.
- In all fairness, Word of God has also said that said character would be "sympathetic", so actually, both interpretations can be true with come character development
- They see it's nothing like the show and quit.
- They find it So Okay, It's Average and stay.
- They absolutely love it.
- Certainly, they seem to be in Fanon.
- Seems pretty reasonable actually since she goes out of her way to help Mercedes overcome Sue's image-crushing and encourages her to try a relationship with Puck (and forewarning her that Puck's just using her). As for the others, she probably just hasn't had a chance to do anything for them.
This explains all the automatic musical accompaniment, the great costumes, and the instant dream-like backdrops. The songs, all covers, are him imagining scenes to songs on his iPod. Dances are what he imagines when he's going through painful physical therapy.
Rachel is his dream girl, and all the Finn/Puck/Jesse conflict is just to make things more exciting. He imagines Finn and Rachel visiting him as he gets increasingly more lonely, and his comment about how he has a shot with Rachel is a nod towards him knowing Finn will eventually get the girl because it's his fantasy. He still wants Rachel with his entirely mobile avatar, but he indulges his own loneliness by pretending Rachel is giving him singing lessons.
- Alternatively, the series is how he imagines everything that happens in Glee Club... well, happens. Rachel is visiting him and giving him singing lessons, and tells him "what happened on the week". That's why Finn and Rachel take so much importance in her tellings.
- Alter-Alternatively, he * is* Finn and the entire series is a coma halucination, the musical numbers might be his mind's reaction to people actually listening to music near him.
- At first glance, it seems like he's only after her for her body, but when he tells her about how Sue made him post about Quinn being pregnant, he seemed genuinely sorry for betraying Rachel, meaning he might have never meant to post it in the first place.
- Both her and Charice come from the Philippines, which is still very conservative on Gay Rights. Charice has also been very open about her Christian background and her recent baptism. Gay / Liberal Glee viewers will probably be less offended by a non-white, non-american character espousing these beliefs. Charice also avoids offending any conservative Filipino fans and might even court a Periphery Demographic. If she does become flagrant about it, she'll most likely spar with Rachel instead of Kurt. The writers can chalk it up to petty rivalry and Debate and Switch the whole thing.
- It's also a possibility that Ryan Murphy said he was going to do this, but decided against it at the last second, which is why Sunshine was abruptly Put on a Bus.
- You know those cheesy Hallmark Movie Christmas specials? The main character of said Christmas specials is usually Holly or the main character has a baby girl and names her Holly. Considering that there are places named "Christmas" or have names with a holiday theme, i.e. Mistletoe, Santa Claus, etc., this idea is very likely. Also, think about her childish personality. If she was born in a place that celebrates Christmas every day, she never really grew up.
- Jossed. He was a two-line wonder in "The Sue Sylvester Bowl Shuffle", and hasn't been seen since.
- Well, she still has a good chance of turning out like Puck since he didn't go through what Quinn did.
- That's not a WMG, that's pretty much canon.
- Actually, it isn't "very rare" in females, it's just less common, and partly because it manifests itself differently in girls and for a long time doctors didn't realize that and so a lot of girls who had it weren't getting diagnosed. Sorry, I know that's slightly OT but had to say it.
- "Self-diagnosed Asperger's." This is not a thing, you cannot diagnose yourself with such a pervasive and serious disorder as Asperger's, but you hear it a lot on the internet as an excuse to be an asshole. I agree with above, this is not a WMG, it's essentially stated to anyone with a passing familiarity with autism or psychology.
- Half jossed as of The First Time. The Warblers new lead is Sebastian, not played by Alex, but he is trying to steal Blaine from Kurt. And Kurt and Blaine did plenty of kissing in the episode!
- Brittany: I dobut she'll want to be away from her friends for long
- Santana: She might as well be Brittany's tail
- Mercedes: Will resist the most, but ultimately join
- Sugar: She just wants to belong according to Pot O Gold
- Unnamed Cheerios: Glee's new generation along with members such as Rory, Unnamed Indian Girl, and Character Of Samuel Larsen
- First: I love this theory d('.')b Second: I propose that Sugar is Brittany and Santana's kid from the future and used Brittany's time machine to get to the present. (It's a common theory, I know, but it's so cool it deserves mention here.)
- Well then we better mention the common idea of having Harmony be the daughter of Finchel.
- From my experience, the "Harmony is Quinn and Rachel's kid from the future" mindset is more common than that. People like to joke that Jesse was the surrogate as well.
- If that's the case, then Wade has got to be Kurt and Mercedes' kid (by in-vitro donation). Maybe she asked them for advice because they were her parents, which led to them naming Mercedes' male kid after Wade's/Unique's original name?
- On top of that Sugar and Rory disappeared because they had succeeded in their goals. Rory for some reason wanted Kurt not to get into NYADA (even though he did anyway) and Sugar needed to get Brittany into college.
- Well then we better mention the common idea of having Harmony be the daughter of Finchel.
- Confirmed
- For all of Kitty's Alpha Bitch behavior, the one thing we've never really seen her do is physically harm somebody. She gives slushy facials, but those are more humiliating than actually harmful. (Excluding the rock-salt laced one that Blaine got in Season 3.) On the whole, Kitty is more manipulative than violent, so it seems like a safe assumption that hurting Marley physically wasn't her intention. (She probably wanted to make her so thin that she was physically unattractive and/or expose her vomiting/laxative use to the student body in order to humiliate her.) And Glee does like to make use of both Rousseau Was Right and Even Evil Has Standards pretty frequently...
- Jossed in "All or Nothing"
- Jossed in "All or Nothing"
- Jossed in "All or Nothing"
- Jossed in "All or Nothing"
- Because honestly, if Mercedes and Santana's awesome duet didn't win then I don't see how Finn and Rachel's rather bland performance would win over Sam and Quinn's.
- They wouldn't have won because everyone voted for themselves except them. They just assumed people would vote for them.
- Because even if Sugar and Joe manage to make an actual appearance this season, ND are still one person down. In typical Glee fashion, he will join them for one performance regardless of the fact that he's on an opposing team.
- Another one would be if Tina sings it, with cheerios back-up when/if she breaks up with Mike Chang. Additionally, the name can be changed easily to become "Artie", "Kurtey", "Finney", "Sammy" or... "Pukey"
- Ultimately half-confirmed: "Mickey" was indeed sung... but by Vocal Adrenaline.
- Sue was coaching them, and had them dressed like cheerleaders. She even shot two out of cannons.
- Ultimately half-confirmed: "Mickey" was indeed sung... but by Vocal Adrenaline.
- Or at the very least finding a nice jewish girl.
- "La Vie Boheme" would be a perfect number for this show.
- If anyone in the cast ever dies: "Without You". That's got to be one of those "all in their heads" numbers, though, as I can't imagine any choir or band (or solo singer, for that matter) singing that song to someone they knew and managing to get all the way to the end.
- Well, "Seasons of Love" would be an excellent way to do a clipshow wrapup or introduction.
- Partially confirmed. "Take Me Or Leave Me" was done in Comeback.
- Two different parts of this together: when Cory died, they did Seasons of Love.
- With the roll he's on, "Not Alone" is probably #1 on that list.
- Dancing Quinn
- And whaddaya know, they actually did it. Only it's a Mercedes and Santana duet. At prom. Yeah.
- "Take A Chance On Me" is needed as a group number.
- "S.O.S." could be sung by Sam to Quinn, or Quinn to Finn. Or both.
- "Super Trouper" could be sung by Lauren to Puck, about how he helps her over her stage fright.
- Jossed.
- But they did get a lot of ABBA done.
- The duet in question? "Say Say Say"
- Jossed.
- Also, Avenue Q's "The Money Song".
- "Don't You Forget About Me"
- Confirmed in "Trio".
- "I Sing the Body Electric".
- "Thank You for the Music" to Will. They've already done "To Sir, With Love", they are going to need an appropriate song to thank Will for what he's meant to them; it would be perfect!
- In the name of all that is of God, WHY are they doing another Britney Spears episode? Unless you mean another episode that focuses on Brittany the Cheerio, which I can live with.
- Pretty much the only Britney song they've never done.
- YES. I wanna see Chocolate Rain, Caramelldansen, and The Internet Is For Porn.
- Why does the Gunslinger Theme come to mind?
- Something from Auto-Tune the News could work...if they could get the right context. I doubt the show would let anybody get raped.
- And you get 'The End of Twerk'. Yay.
- Jossed.
- Believe It Or Not by Artie
- Ready To Roll by Finn
- Never Gonna Give You Up by Sam and New Directions
- Never Gonna Give You Up/Ready To Roll by Finn and New Directions
- Caramelldansen by Tina
- Hare Hare Yukai by Brittany (Haruhi), Quinn (Yuki), Santana (Mikuru), Mike (Itsuki), and Finn (Kyon)
- I have wanted them to do Hare Hare Yukai, especially the English dub. Interesting choice for Brittany, though Finn would be Itsuki because he's dubbed by Daisuke Ono.
- Break Me OR Jar Of Hearts by Rachel
- The latter happened at prom.
- Baby by Sam
- Lo and behold, it actually happened.
- OP: Didn't think that would actually happen, I was just throwing out an example. (Crossing my fingers for Caramelldansen still.)
- Cagayake! Girls by Kurt and the rest of the ND girls, if only because the K-On! page describes the show as Glee: The Anime. Kurt as main singer makes sense because he's the closest thing the show has to a Moe Blob.
- I'm on a Boat
- Kurt will sing What What In The Butt.
- Can't Hug Every Cat by Brittany.
- Jossed.
- Walk Through The Fire sung by Mercedes (as Buffy), Puck (as Spike), and New Directions.
- This would be much better if it was Quinn in the role of Buffy, it paralels better with the source show and her voice fits better.
- Or, having already done Rocky Horror, they could do a Buffy cover or two (maybe even a Buffy episode) for Halloween next year. Santana/Brittany for "Under Your Spell", anyone? Rachel would definitely be Anya, Finn as Xander, Puck as Spike, Quinn as Buffy, Will as Giles...this would actually be pretty fun.
- And of course Tina as Dawn just for the sake of her having another interrupted solo.
- Murphy, if you're reading this, (which you probably are given Thriller and Baby) please get to work on this, it would be amazing.
- This would be much better if it was Quinn in the role of Buffy, it paralels better with the source show and her voice fits better.
- FCC sung by Finn, Sam, and Kurt
- A Mystery Science Theater 3000 Mash Up by Mike (or even the original or Hodgson) with Tom and Crow's puppets (with either the original actors or Sam and Kurt) as a dream sequence. Will consist of some of the following using these three:
- Begins with Love Theme Final Version sung by Puck (Main Vocals), Rachel (As Pearl), and New Directions (Backing/"La La Las") if its not.
- He Tried To Kill Me With A Forklift
- Toobular Boobular (Then again that might not get past the radar)
- Idiot Control Now
- "It stinks!" =D
- Janitor Song
- Merry Christmas (If That's Okay)
- Werewolf End Credits Song
- Guy Love by Blaine and Kurt.
- Really? The song specifically says "there's nothing gay about it". Probably Puck and Finn, or Sam and Finn.
- They`ll just change the line to "there`s something really gay about it"
- Original poster: It would be them denying their in a relationship.
- Won't work. Too much context. "You're the only guy who's ever been inside of meeee!" "I SWEAR, I JUST TOOK OUT HIS APPENDIX!"
- Really? The song specifically says "there's nothing gay about it". Probably Puck and Finn, or Sam and Finn.
- Then how about I'm Under Your Spell for them
- Vale Decem by New Direction/Vocal Adrenaline
- I Cant Decide/Voodoo Child by Sue
- This needs to happen.
- Who Are You by Vocal Adrenaline
- Hurt Feelings by Will and Artie (possibly Puck)
- [[Series/{{30 Rock}} "Leavin' on the Midnight Train to Georgia"]], presumably someone gets mad and tries to stay with family in Georgia, but decides to come back.
- Fight by New Directions
- Rock The Dragon by Puck
- Dominican by Santana and Sam
- The Touch by Finn
- Cheer Up Sleepy Jean by New Directions Boys
- A The Lonely Island mashup featuring Dick In A Box by Sam and Puck, I Just Had Sex by Puck, Finn, and Artie(as Akon), a bowlderized I'm On A Boat by Puck, Finn and Artie and of course Jizzed In My Pants by Finn.
- Jossed.
- "The Song that Goes Like This" by Finn and Rachel
- "The Diva's Lament" by Rachel or Kurt
- Tina or Mercedes could work for that song as well.
- Jossed.
- Tina or Mercedes could work for that song as well.
- Or because the band kids get sick of being ignored/being bullied for helping out.
- Ultimately jossed.
- On the Rise will be sung with Rachel as Doctor Horrible and Finn as Penny, most likely while she follows him and Quinn.
- My Freeze Ray could be anyone, but the sheer-dorkiness of it just screams for Artie.
- Penny's Song would be preformed by Emma, most likely to Will.
- A Man's Gotta Do Could either be the same set up as above, Rachel as Horrible, Finn as Penny and Quinn as Captain Hammer, or with Artie, Tina and Mike taking the respective roles.
- Only if Bryan Ryan is in the episode.
- Ultimately jossed.
- Jossed.
- Maybe in Season 3. As of the penultimate episode of Season 2, New Directions is planning on doing original songs again.
- Jossed.
- Considering McKinley is putting on a production of West Side Story...
- Can we please? That would be the perfect time to set up any drama that would take too long otherwise, not to mention give the actors a break from rehearsing, and securing the rights to the song.
- The Golden Girls
- Friends
- Cheers
- Family Guy
- House opening Teardrop
- Dance to the Doctor Who theme
- Greatest American Hero
- Fresh Prince
- CSI. Which? All of them, because we need more The Who.
- Mystery Science Theater 3000
- Queen (Main Song: Who Wants To Live Forever/Princes Of The Universe by Puck)
- Wicked
- David Bowie (Main Song: Heroes by Finn, Jesse, and Blaine in competition)
- Reba McEntire (Main Song: Fancy by Rachel)
- Bruce Springsteen
- Rihanna (Main Song: Love The Way You Lie by Artie, Santana, Tina, Britanny and Quinn)
- Buffy: Once More With A Feeling (Main Song: Under Your Spell by Brittany and Santana)
- ABBA (Main Song: Mamma Mia by Rachel and Shelby)
- Michael Jackson (Main Song: Billie Jean by Artie)
- Confirmed in that an MJ episode was recently done in Season 3. Billie Jean was not covered.
- Grease (Main Song: You're The One That I Want by Rachel and Finn)
- Disney. Preferably the Disney Animated Canon: I cannot pick a main song, so I'm just going to make up a setlist (Songs are in order of release, feel free to add)
- Whistle While You Work/Happy Working Song by Tina
- When You Wish Upon A Star by Brittany
- Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah (Disney's Signature Song) by New Directions
- Pink Elephants by New Directions (Because what's Disney without something scary?)
- Cinderella by Mike and Tina
- A Dream Is A Wish Your Heart Makes by Tina
- A Pirates Life by Puck, Jesse, and Santana
- The Bare Necessities by Finn
- The Wonderful Thing About Tiggers by Blaine
- The World's Greatest Criminal Mind by Kurt
- Kiss The Girl by Sam
- Part Of Your World by Rachel
- Beauty And The Beast by Mercedes
- A Whole New World by Finn and Rachel
- Circle Of Life by Blaine with New Directions
- Colors Of The Wind by Tina
- Make A Man Out Of You by Will
- The Prayer by Rachel (who is then told that it comes from a Warner Brothers movie)
- Hawaiian Roller Coaster Ride by Lauren
- Friends On The Other Side by Will
- Why Should I Worry by Blaine
- Weird Al
- Justin Timberlake
- Elvis Presley
- West Side Story is confirmed to be a production at McKinley in Season 3, so this looks like a good possibility.
- Kurt and Blaine will sing 'I'll Cover You' from Rent.
- Which is all well and good except Blaine doesn't go to McKinley and would therefore not be allowed in the competition.
- Doesn't go there yet. The jury's still out on whether he'll transfer in season 3.
- But isn't he a senior?
- Word of God said that he's one year ahead of Kurt, not that he's explicitly a senior. And they never mentioned anything about what year he was in comparison to Kurt, so they could easily retcon it for them to be in the same grade.
- If I'm not mistaken, Kurt's a juniornote
- Well then most likely it's been retconned so that they're both Juniors, and will be seniors at the beginning of next season.
- No duet's competition has happened, but it's safe to say that Blaine has transferred to McKinley. Kurt is a senior, Blaine is a junior.
- Which is all well and good except Blaine doesn't go to McKinley and would therefore not be allowed in the competition.
- "Take On Me" by a-ha. Sung by Kurt.
- Done, but by everyone.
- "Land of Confusion" by Genesis.
- "Material Girl" by Madonna. Sung by Quinn and Rachel.
- "Here It Goes Again" by OK Go. Sung by Puck.
- "It's a Sin" by Pet Shop Boys. Sung by Karofsky.
- Why not Santana?
- "Don't Come Around Here No More" by Tom Petty. Sung by Artie.
- "Smooth Criminal" by Michael Jackson. Sung by Artie.
- The song was performed, but not by Artie. It was a duel between Santana and Sebastian. There was a music video recreation in the episode that did involve Artie- 'Scream'.
- "Jizz In My Pants" by Lonely Island. Sung by Finn and Sam.
- "Mickey" by Tony Basil. Sung by Brittany.
- Vocal Adrenaline, under Sue's control.
- Confirmed in one of the last few episodes of the season (IIRC, the finale) along with several other throwbacks to Season 1, such as "Put a Ring on It"
- Fancy by Reba Mc Entire. Performed by Rachel.
- Think by Aretha Franklin. Performed by Mercedes.
- Independence Day by Martina McBride. Performed by Brittany.
- Gunpowder And Lead by Miranda Lambert. Performed by Santana.
- Undo It by Carrie Underwood. Performed by Tina.
- Dance in the Dark by Lady Gaga. Performed by Tina.
- Schiesse by Lady Gaga. Performed by Quinn.
- Fuckin Perfect by P!nk. Performed by Brittany.
- We R Who We R by Ke$ha. Performed by Rachel.
- Bad Reputation by Joan Jett. Performed by Santana.
- I Am Woman by Jordin Sparks. Performed by Mercedes.
- My Chick Bad by Ludacris ft Niki Minaj. Performed by Puck and Lauren.
- Not Ready to Make Nice by the Dixie Chicks. Performed by all the girls, led by Rachel.
Songs In Chronological Order
- Magic Dance by Shelby with Bieste, Emma, Will, and New Directions, sung to Beth.
- Fame by Artie as an audition
- Suffragette City by Sam as an audition
- Rebel Rebel by Lauren as an audition
- Space Oddity/Ashes To Ashes (more the latter) by Santana as an audition
- Life On Mars by Kurt as an audition
- Ziggy Stardust by Finn as an audition
- Let's Dance/Just Dance by Rachel (fails audition immediately, given second chance)
- Changes by Rachel as second chance
- Under Pressure by Mercedes (as Mercury) and Brittany (as Bowie) as an audition
- China Girl by Mike (who else) as an audition
- The Man Who Sold The World by Tina as an audition
- Heroes by Quinn and Puck to Beth (Shelby hears it and includes it in the competition)
- Bowies In Space by Will with New Directions in Bowie outfits (Jareth, Thin White Duke, Ziggy Stardust, lightning bolt make up)
- Partially confirmed. Season premiere of season 3 Rachel starts off a rendition of You Can't Stop the Beat after Mr. Shue tells them that they've still got music to make even despite the bad treatment, and there's a very fond smile on Shue's face but no commentary.
- World is Mine
- Levan Polka
- Po Pi Po
- Love is War
- Any of the Daughter of Evil series songs
- Just be Friends
- Last Night, Good Night
- Alice Human Sacrifice (with Santanna or Tina as the first Alice, Blaine or Finn as the second Alice, Brittany or Quinn as the third Alice, and Rachel and Kurt as the fourth Alice's)
- Should've happened, sadly no.
- Jizz In My Pants by Finn and Puck
- I Just Had Sex by Finn and Blaine, feat. Puck
- I'm On A Boat by Mike and Artie
- Who Said We're Wack? by Puck, Artie and Finn
- Punch You In The Jeans by Karofsky
- RE: Zombies by Puck and New Directions
- This Is Halloween by New Directions
- Monster Mash by The Warblers
- Y Control by Rachel
- Summer Is A Cumen-In by New Directions
- Nothing on You/Beautiful Girls
- Even Angels Fall/Crash and Burn
- A Thousand Miles/I'm Gonna Be (500 miles)
- The Ballad of Barry Allen/What Are Words
- Don't Forget/Our Song
- Walk Through The Fire/Ring Of Fire
- Ashes To Ashes/Your Love Is My Drug
- Magic Dance/Just Dance
- Baba O'Reily by The Who (British). Sung by Finn
- Best I Ever Had (Canadian Birth). Sung and rapped by Artie
- Next Decade by Gackt (Japanese). Sung by New Driections Boys
- This more or less happened in "The Spanish Teacher", with Ricky Martin. Songs were sung partly in Spanish.
- Some ideas for potential numbers: Puck doing "Music", the Glee Club doing "Give Me All Your Luvin", Rachel singing "Drowned World/Substitute for Love", and a "Hung Up" sequence where Mike and Brittany (attempt to) teach Finn how to dance. And Santana could do "Spanish Lesson", why not.
- Finn and Puck- My trusted friend
- Rachel or/and Kurt- Papa please pray for me
- Puck and Quinn to Beth- My little one
- The whole point of having their dry cleaning done in Europe laugh-out-loud-at-the-very-suggestion so. 'Cause it's, you know, a joke. To make you laugh. Out loud.
- And Kurt's dad isn't just a mechanic, he owns a majority share in the auto shop. It's not glamorous work, but if they're successful that could mean pretty good money.
- Even run-of-the-mill mechanics make decent money as skilled tradesmen.
- Wouldn't this officially be Jossed considering Mike's performance of 'Sing!'?
- Not necessarily. He could be Obsfuscating Tone-deafness, and if not he at least has the ability to harmonize.
- No, since he intentionally sings it badly.
- It's a very interesting theory, the only objection I have is: since when do people in choir not have low social status in a high school? :/ As far as I know that is unfortunate but true.
- Not in my high school. In fact, during my high school years all the winners for prom and homecoming royalty were in drama club and/or choir, as well as the pageant we had for the senior boys. I'm not from a small town though.
- Same here, chorus isn't a maker or breaker of popularity. Then again I'm from an upper-class high school full of Asians. Maybe it depends on the economic makeup of the students?
- The above troper is from a small, conservative town about the same size as the one Glee is set in. The popular kids are the ones in volleyball and track for girls and football and rugby for guys; the drama/choir kids are dismissed as weirdos.
- I am also from a small, conservative town around the same size as the fictional version of Lima, and the kids in our glee club (which I was in) were actually pretty popular. As were the band geeks, of all people.
- I, a former band/chorus/drama club member, also hail from a town much like Lima. The jocks/cheerleaders/cool kids tried to treat us badly also. We. Did. Not. CARE.
- I am originally from a small, poor former factory town, with an old high school that is falling apart. Many of the members of chorus/drama/show choir WERE cheerleaders and some football players. Others were drama/chorus (obviously not show choir, as that's an extracurricular) for the school credit alone. It wasn't something that designated anyone as a loser, nor as cool. It was just another group. Band, however, was full of dorks.
- I go to a fairly small high school (1,200 kids, which is pretty small for our area) in a fairly large town, about an hour from NYC. Students here know from friends out of town that we have a fairly odd dynamic, in which drama and choir kids peacefully (for the most part) coexist with jocks, and are often friends with them (some also identify as part of both groups). Homecoming Royalty included a girl from marching band and a boy who was the most involved in drama (and the best actor) in the senior class. Being in a group like band or choir doesn't make one uncool. The only kids who are really considered losers are the ones who don't participate in regular extracurriculars, because A)People get the impression they don't care about their education or the school. B)People make most of their friends by bonding through shared clubs/groups. You don't make any new friends if you're not in them.
- Not in my high school. In fact, during my high school years all the winners for prom and homecoming royalty were in drama club and/or choir, as well as the pageant we had for the senior boys. I'm not from a small town though.
- This also explains how April Rhodes has a so terrible life, despite her voice sounding exactly like Kristin Chenowith.
- And why Shelby Corcoran would fail as an actress, despite her voice sounding exactly like Idina Menzel's. And why the AV Club can just randomly burst into song in "Rolling in the Deep."
- Well it would hardly be a good musical if they picked people for a show choir that were -bad- singers. Besides, random people may indeed be good singers - despite popular misconception, most people are generally at least decent with training. Mostly though it really depends on the school culture and at the Glee school, guess what's their claim to fame? The Cherios which is headed by Sue who is shown to essentially run the school and community for many years; all the behavior may have been encouraged and picked up from all that. At the very least, her manipulation of other clubs and activities may simply kept all other clubs wary of each other. And in such a state of paranoia, getting the big bad to look at a weak scapegoat is a good thing - it keeps Sue off their back. As well, it may have simply been a matter of a general tread - it's not that people hate the glee club (at least initially) but that generally, people at the school that others don't like have a habit of joining glee. Over time, the idea of people like Rachael and Peppers becomes closely associated with glee - guilt by association.
- Slight problem with this, I think Will has stated that when he was a student at the school he was in Glee and one of the popular kids.
- And the Warblers and Vocal Adrenaline are heavily implied to be royalty at Dalton and Carmel respectively.
- The theory I came to halfway through the show, after sitting through the horribly recorded and autotuned songs in order to see the very funny scenes in between (this almost turned me off the show, seriously), was that in the members of the Glee club's minds, they all sound like that. I mean, if you've ever sung with a group of people, you know the feeling you get when you nail a song together, but it's hard to portray that feeling on film. How this show counter-acts that is by making the singers sound inhumanly good so that those who have never experienced that can realise it. Basically the great singing is a representation of what Glee club means to them. This made the show a hell of a lot more bearable.
- So what almost turned you off of the show was...the main conceit of the show?
- That explains while all the situations are exaggerated in such a colorful manner, and explains the sudden seemingly out of nowhere character derailment. When a character changes from a sweet, well meaning friend to a complete bitch or bastard within minutes. That's another character taking over the story, decsribing the character as how they saw them at that moment.
- Tina is already stated that her look represents the Perky part of her Perky Goth personality
- Rachel "Kermit" look is the most obvious, the second one is probably a representation of her desire for glamour
- Quinn "Pink spike ball" look represent her Tsundere aspect, how she can be really nasty and sweet.
- Santanna represents her as a "black fower", pretty and also bad.
- Brittany is obviously smart as a Lobster
- Kurt looks is inspired by Bad Romance and represents... his Bad Romance with Finn.
- But Mercedes is...?
- I and my friends gave each and every outfit a nickname, that might, or might not help this theory: Tina is Bubbles, Rachel is Miss Muppet, Quinn is Kirby, Santana is Kodachi, Brittany is Mrs. Crabs, Kurt is Lady Washington and Mercedes is... Minnie Mouse
- In this video, it shows another dancer; Mike Chang. What does he represent?
- The Red Guy obviously. Or maybe The Red King or the King of Hearts
- Episode 121 - '2009' - in the sixth season. Missing scenes from early on.
Because a LOT of these WMGs are hitting pretty close to home...
- Possibly. But it could be more that Glee is very, very Troperiffic.
Inverting the above logic, the show runners take ideas from this site, and if we create a WMG strong enough it will happen. I suggest Kill (Kurt+ Will). Why only girls should fall under Will's charm?
- Ditto. I mean, obviously Will's got this whole "girls get away" schtick down. But what would happen if Kurt followed in the footsteps of Suzy and Rachel? ...Then again, all of the females with crushes on Will have had food names... Pepper... Berry... Pilsbury... Unless Kurt's middle name is secretly "Butterworth", I don't think it'll happen.
- Every female.
- If this is true then I suggest a Michael Jackson episode. Or at least have Kurt perform Smooth Criminal, I don't know how it would work in context, but it could be fun.
- I vote for Artie to rock out on "Thriller" if this happens
- And Super Bowl Sunday Artie's got a solo in Thriller/Heads Will Roll.
- I vote for Artie to rock out on "Thriller" if this happens
Orginally, he said that Kurt's boyfriend would be a new character named Sam who joins both the football team and glee. Then Chord Overstreet was cast as a recurring character named Sam, but he doesn't seem to be anyone's love interest; in fact, Chris Colfer said recently that he hasn't even read with anyone for the part yet. There are two possible explanations:
1. Murphy changed his mind and decided to add four new characters instead of three.
2. Murphy is only pretending to be casting someone new so that it will be a genuine surprise when Kurt ends up with Matt or Mike. (Yes, Mike is going to date Tina, but how long do you think that will last?)
It's not as crazy as it sounds. Remember when he said that Shelby wasn't Rachel's mother?
- My money's on Mike. His and Tina's episode could be used as a springboard towards this. Given what we learned so far, I don't think the same could be said for Matt.
- So we're accepting as fact that Ryan Murphy is a Lying Creator, but don't consider that it could extend to his cast and crew? It's just as possible that Chris and Chord are trying to keep the surprise that he is Kurt's love interest, or even that Murphy told them to keep it under wraps. Why does everyone assume that Mike Chang is gay, anyway?
- First of all, Chord hasn't said one word about any of this; it's the official press release from Fox that says he's going to be a recurring character (while Kurt's boyfriend is supposed to be a regular) and only talks about his friendship with Finn. Second, it's not so much that we assume Mike is gay as we hope he is. It would mean more screentime for him, something fans have been clamoring for since day one, and be a lot more interesting than Kurt dating some newcomer who only exists to be his love interest.
- First point: Okay, I'm wrong about that one. I thought I saw that in the original post, but on closer inspection, I see that I was mistaken. Second point: But that's just my point, it wouldn't necessarily mean more screentime for him. He didn't get any storylines in season 1 because at the start he was never meant to be anything but a good dancer that brought up the club's numbers, but he's evolved, along with Santana and Brittany (Matt, not so much from what I hear) to become someone the fanbase wants to know more about. He's getting storylines this year, he's involved in a Tina/Artie love triangle, and once that inevitably resolves to Artie and Tina getting back together they're not just going to shove him into the background again, but making him Kurt's boyfriend doesn't do anything to help his character. I actually think it would be a detriment to it. That sounds homophobic on its own, but I'm trying not to be. Hear me out: Glee has sometimes been accused of having very stereotypical characters (mainly Kurt and Mercedes). It would hurt the show to continue this stereotyping (which is the main issue that many people who have problems with the show cite) by taking the best male dancer in the group, who we only know a little about, and making him gay. It would be much more effective in breaking stereotypes for the best dancer to be straight. Finn is not a very good dancer, and Puck is too much of a Handsome Lech to be the aversion (and a lot of people think (or hope) that he's bi, anyway). Having a character who is metrosexual and not a cartoon * coughJessecough* would actually add an interesting new dynamic to the show. If it turns out that he is gay, then c'est la vie, I'll trust that the writers know what they're doing. But I really hope that if he is it isn't just to add more drama.
- They could always introduce Sam as Kurt's love interest, and then have them break up later. Make Sam bi so that he can be paired with one of the girls. Later, after the Mike/Tina/Artia love triangle, Mike can realize he's gay and be paired with Kurt. Also, the show has been confirmed for a third season already, so it's not like they immediatly get Mike and Kurt together as soon as both of them are single. They can take their time.
- And it's not as much that the fandom thinks that Mike is gay, it's that he fits the boyfriend tropes they were going for. He's nice, he's on the football team and in Glee. Plus, everyone already likes Mike, and the creators have said they want to focus more on the original twelve instead than the new students. It would make a lot of sense to have him take the boyfriend role. Also I've been assuming that because Tina and Mike have the same last name and are on a TV show that they're cousins, and the whole Tike thing is kind of squicking me.
- So we're accepting as fact that Ryan Murphy is a Lying Creator, but don't consider that it could extend to his cast and crew? It's just as possible that Chris and Chord are trying to keep the surprise that he is Kurt's love interest, or even that Murphy told them to keep it under wraps. Why does everyone assume that Mike Chang is gay, anyway?
- At the Emmys red carpet show, Chris Colfer was asked if he knew who the boyfriend was going to be, and he said, "I think I do, but then they tell me that I don't." Clearly, someone is trying to mislead us. My guess is that Chris, like everyone else, assumed it was Sam, but the writers have other plans.
- And the plot thickens...
- Artie does already know how to play bass. He was playing the bass during Bust A Move in the episode Mash-Up. Just for the record.
- Why will the guys feel the need to form their own band? Because they're sick on the tributes to female artists and feel like their contributions are being overlooked.
- Then it's settled. Puck on lead guitar, Sam on rhythm guitar, Artie on bass, Kurt on keyboard, Finn on drums, but what about Mike?
- Something utterly superfluous like tambourine, or possibly lead singer, now that he's feeling more confident about his voice.
- Or something crazy like a violin or double bass perhaps. Or it'll be like the Foo Fighters, where even though Grohl is the best drummer, he's the singer. Mike will get the drums, whilst Finn or Puck get the vocals and a guitar whilst the other gets the lead guitar and backup vocals.
- To further add to this WMG, both girls would want the popularity boost, possibly to impress they boyfriends/ex-boyfriends
- Rachel never joined the Cheerios, but Tina (and Blaine) did.
- So this could be a really horrible case of "like this would actually happen?"
- This would also explain why Finn and Rachel didn't notice the guys singing "Bella Note," or why there was no sound when they kissed; neither of those things actually happened, but Kurt thought it would be more dramatic and interesting if they did.
- This makes wonderful sense.
- Both are aware of Santana's jealous streak, and unaware of her sexuality. Mercedes got hell from her during her brief fling with Puck, and is afraid of something similar happening since Sam and Santana also dated.
- Either his or her (or both) parents are racist. It's something that the show has yet to cover, and obviously would set up a lot of drama and aesop-ness.
- They think they're being savvy by keeping it a secret, thinking they'll be like Tina/Mike and prevent all the drama all of the other couple get, but instead are Wrong Genre Savvy and keeping it a secret will amount to even more drama.
It's not from their perspective or even third person. A kid at McKinley is seeing this and hearing this, which is why everyone is so stereotypical or even just plain annoying. The reason the plot is so convoluted is because the kid in the halls don't really care about the facts, s/he's just observing. Finn's leadership abilities when he thought that a girl can get pregnant via ejaculating in a hottub? He's blabbing to someone when the kid hears him. Brittany being stupid but an idiot savant about cats or her weird saying? People are overhearing and playing telephone until it ends up being "I bet the duck's in the hat." Everything is accounted for.
- Alex's character is shown at the end of a promo for season 4 with Britanny mistaking him for Mercedes. This was hinted at with him mentioning about possibly changing schools in the season 3 finale (or pen-ultimate episode).
- That's...a little disturbing, but would make a bizarre kind of sense. (Not to mention, imagine the fanfic possibilities.)
Look at the band players. They are always on time, can always play whatever music needed exactly right, which is almost impossible to perfect when you need to eat, sleep, etc. Mr. Schue introduces a topic, the next day five kids sing complex songs. They sing songs to each other for surprises, in the theater, two people once made out in front of them! This would make perfect sense if they spent 24 hours practicing music— they are zombies. They don't eat, don't sleep, don't care about nothin' but their instruments— they have literally absorbed their souls. This is possibly a lampshade hanging when Santana tells Brittany Brad is "just a piece of furniture." Compared to her, he may as well be. He is not HUMAN.
- Finn plays the drums, Kurt plays the piano, a few members play the guitar...
- Singing is good for your soul. That's why they emphasize that the band members must only lip-synch. If they sing, they gain back a soul and won't be slaves to the Glee club.
- Ultimately jossed, as "Daydream Believer" was sung in full during the series finale.
- Really the only explanation for Marley being as gorgeous as she is.