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Speculation for Matt Smith's first few outings as the Eleventh Doctor.
- Which kinda strengthens the 'Woman in White is the White Guardian' WMG.
- The Black Guardian didn't show up in the finale, but we still don't know who the Big Bad of Season 5 really was so... I haven't watched the classic series at all so someone will have to tell me, does the "Silence-Will-Fall Voice" fit with being the Black Guardian?
- Jossed for series five, but who can tell for the Moffatt run in its entirety the Black Guardian won't show up?
- This troper remembers Jabe (way back in Series 1) telling the Doctor "the Eternals fled this reality in despair" after the Time War. I don't think they'll be showing up any time soon.
- No, she never said that in the episode. I think that was the 2006 annual.
- There's no freak natural phenomena going on here.Someone, some sentient being, is trying to destroy the Universe. How do we know this? Well, someone keeps talking. We keep hearing this little nugget in the TARDIS during "The Pandorica Opens":Mysterious Voice: Silence will fall...
- The destruction will be caused by the TARDIS exploding. We saw the fragment in "Cold Blood", we saw the painting at the beginning of the episode.
- Someone has taken control of the TARDIS and is making it explode—and when I say "someone", I mean "Someone". When the TARDIS starts going apeshit and exploding (thereby causing the destruction/erasure of the entire universe), the Doctor tells River that it must be some kind of fault. River disagrees:River: Someone else is flying it. An external force.
- So, who can operate the TARDIS well enough to cause it to explode and destroy the Universe? The Dalek Supreme has something to say on this topic:Dalek Supreme: Only the Doctor can fly the TARDIS.
- But I hear you saying "Bronzethumb, you sexy devil, River can fly the TARDIS too!" Yeah, well...River: I'm flying [the TARDIS] perfectly! You taught me!
- So it would seem that only the Doctor and people taught by the Doctor can fly the TARDIS, and as far as we know, the only person he's taught is River. Which means that only the Doctor or River could be controlling it now. The Doctor... or an alternate side of the Doctor's personality.
- Hence, the Wild Mass Guess: The Dream Lord is trying to destroy the Universe.
- Why? Because he's a dick.
- Specifically, he's a dick because of all the pain the Doctor's suffered, and wants to erase time so he no longer has to be the tragic hero.
- How is he able to do all this when he's only a manifestation of the Doctor's dark impulses? ...yeah, okay, good point self. Maybe he was able to manifest his own form at some point in the Doctor's relative future. Or perhaps he's inhabiting the TARDIS—telepathic circuits, remember? This would also fit with the fact that the voice declaring that "silence will fall." is heard inside the TARDIS (which is supposed to be shielded from most assaults) right before the screen cracks, and at the end of "Amy's Choice" The Doctor saw the Dream Lord's face in the TARDIS console.
- Or maybe the Doctor was lying.
- Notes for this theory: River said she was taught to fly the TARDIS by the best in The Time of Angels. Yet she also says "Pity you were busy that day." How to reconcile this statement with the one in the Pandorica? Perhaps the Dream Lord taught her, somehow?
- She says in "The Pandorica Opens" that the Doctor taught her to fly the TARDIS. Later in her personal timeline (i.e. "The Time of Angels"), she says that someone else taught her to fly even better than the Doctor does. She almost certainly met this other TARDIS driver in the intervening time period.
- In addition, consider the following: Every enemy leading up to this point has been accounted for, except the Dream Lord. The Atraxi, Daleks, and Homo Reptillia are part of the Alliance, and we know they aren't the real Big Bad. The fish-vampires are still presumably in Venice and their matriarch has been killed. The invisible monster Vincent Van Gogh faced wasn't malevolent, just injured. The TARDIS-like spaceship basically imploded at the end of The Lodger. This means that the real villian behind the destruction of the TARDIS must either be the Dream Lord or someone entirely new to Series 5, which seems unlikely. Barring the return of an old villian like Rassilon or the Master, it seems to follow that it's probably the Dream Lord who is behind this
- Agreed, but the Dream Lord may be working with other monsters, such as Prisoner Zero and the Starwhale. (He also may have worked with the Krafayis before it perished). Note that although Eleven thinks he knows evil when he sees it, and is convinced that the Dream Lord represents his dark side, none of the threats present in "Vincent and the Doctor" and "The Lodger" are actually malevolent, and the Dream Lord does nothing more than tell him the truth and manipulate his consciousness. Also, as far as Big Bang II is concerned, the Pandorica may serve no function other than that of a Void Ship. Eleven thinks it contains a memory of the universe, when in reality, he contains a memory of the universe.
- To append to everyone elses' comments: in 6, we have River learning how to fly the TARDIS form the old girl herself. The TARDIS knows how important River is, so thus she educates River when the Doctor was incapacitated.
- Why? Because he's a dick.
- Let us take a step back and look at the Season 4 episodes Silence (!) in the Library and Forest of the Dead. River mentions the crash of the Byzantium so there is a connection to Series 5, and possibly beyond.
- River: Everybody knows that everybody dies, and nobody knows it like the Doctor. But I do think that all the skies of all the worlds might just turn dark, if he ever, for one moment, accepted that.
- That is exactly what silence falling looked like, with all the stars going supernova. And what about the Doctor accepting stuff? That means the manifestation and victory of his cynical, apathetic side, the one that doesn't care. In other words, the Dream Lord.
- Who else has the Doctor taught how to drive? Does the name Donna Noble ring any bells. I can't remember the exact episode, but the Tenth Doctor teaches Donna how to fly the TARDIS.
- If we assume that the Dream Lord is an earlier form of the Valeyard, we could take this theory: the Dream Lord wasn't trying to Ret-Gone existence. In truth, he made sure he could reboot reality. This would be for the sole purpose of finding a way to reaching into his own past, and averting the Time War. No matter what the consequences are.
- The TARDIS is being controlled by something/someone of the same species as House - he can control the TARDIS and fly it
- Why? Rule of Cool that's why. Plus, when you've got a previous special wherein the fricking MASTER made a Heel–Face Turn, anything is possible.
- Let's examine the facts. When the Doctor heads onto the roof in The Eleventh Hour, he only has regular ties around his neck. Then when he puts on his jacket, the bow tie appears from nowhere. It's actually an alien parasite that wants to destroy the Doctor for as-yet unknown reasons. In episodes where he wears a different coloured bow tie, the tie is on board the TARDIS manipulating things. It was the bow tie's voice that said 'Silence will fall' in The Pandorica Opens, and it's moved on to manipulate the Silence order in Series 6.
- Or it was a result of the Dalek invasion. Thanks to the cracks, it would do the opposite of this WMG-get Tom and Martha back together.
- In that case, after the cracks were themselves Retconned, Martha would be with Mickey again. I guess Martha and her husband need to show up at some point for us to know which.
- ...or, people occasionally realize they don't actually want to marry their fiancee, and end up with someone else. But that's crazy talk.
- Confirmed, sort of. The Tenth Doctor could see everything in the universe except things that were "in flux". The Eleventh Doctor can see everything in the universe except the things he does not want to see. In an unreleased scene, he tells Amy that he brought her with him because she could see what he missed. Series 5 may illustrate the process of Eleven calculating the truth. Note that he hasn't calculated it fully yet, and the song "Chances" by Athlete featured in "Vincent and the Doctor" indicates he's never going to figure out the truth through calculation.
- Series Five has likely confirmed that Amy is linked to the cracks in time. At first, the Doctor is either ignorant or only subconsciously aware of this possibility. After Amy tries to snog the Doctor in "Flesh and Stone" however, the Doctor realizes that Amy is linked to the Time Cracks. However, the Doctor still seems to be only subconsciously aware of what caused time to crack in the first place.
- Mickey Smith is Human!Eleven, Grendel (from Beowulf) is Prisoner Zero, Odo (from Deep Space Nine) is the Ninth Doctor, and a person who does not look like you is Dobby the House Elf.
- ...or the Doctor messing with Time in "The Waters of Mars". I really hope he will face the consequences of his actions. This would also explain the multiform's satirical voice when he says "The Doctor and the TARDIS doesn't know, doesn't know, doesn't know..." and the fact that he recognizes him as a Time Lord too.
- ...and now the Weeping Angels also use the "Doctor in the TARDIS" construction, in a setting where it seems very likely that the Doctor is crossing his own timeline (he comes back to tell Amy to remember what he said when she was seven, and he's wearing a jacket again despite having lost it to the Angels a few scenes earlier).
- ...and now the Doctor reaches into one of the cracks and pulls out a piece of shrapnel from what is evidently the TARDIS exploding. Looks like we're well on the way to this being Confirmed.
- Not quite. After instigating "The Big Bang" the Doctor tells Amy that he is unsure of what exactly caused the Time Cracks but is "working it out". Many possible clues about what might have triggered the TARDIS explosion should be obvious to Eleven, but Eleven misses the obvious all the time. He probably won't fully discover what's going on until the TARDIS explosion is seen again in the Series Six Finale.
- In the second and third episodes, after the TARDIS has dematerialised, we see the cracks. It is TARDIS's departures into the Time Vortex that are causing the cracks.
- But what about the crack in Amy's bedroom, you ask? This is why: The Doctor will attempt to take Amy back the day after she left, but overshoots. So when he leaves, he will create the crack.
- Confirmed, sort of.
- We've already seen someone slip through the crack in Amy's house. When there are enough cracks that the universe can't take it anymore, time will fracture, causing history to be jumbled up. Incidentally, this means there's the potential for, say, Rory, Liz 10, and Winston Churchill to meet.
- Confirmed. The entire universe, apart from the Earth and Moon, essentially suffers a Ret-Gone. The multiverse too, if the Cyberleader is to be believed. It's better, now.
- Because what could be more universe-shattering than that? This would also explain why the Daleks are apparently back in the finale.
- Jossed. The event that caused the cracks was the explosion of the TARDIS.
- And who said TARDIS explosions didn't happen during the Time War.
- Considering that the Doctor actually discussed the continuity issues of the Cyberking in Victorian London, this actually seems quite plausible. Not necisarilly THE Snarl, but something like it.
- Assuming this is true, then it still doesn't help in Rory's case, because if he wasn't already dead before falling in then he would have likely been immediately massacred by Daleks, Weeping Angels or whatever else that would stumble upon him. Or he'll Come Back Wrong and have to be killed in the finale.
- River, River, I'm looking at you...
- Well, it is caused by the explosion of the TARDIS, but it's implied (so far) that something else made it blow up to begin with.
- "House" anyone?
- Originally, the Doctor did pick Amy up when she was seven. Little Amy in the garden hearing the TARDIS engines wasn't a dream- it happened, but the cracks unwrote it.
- In Flesh and stone, River and the Doctor leave amy to go and get the ship working. The Doctor had recently lost his jacket to the Angels. Just after they left, the Doctor returned to Amy, but seemed... different. AND had his acket back, and his sleeves rolled up. A continuity error? I doubt it, after the fuss they went to making sure you knew he'd lost his jacket. This new, different Doctor tries to get Amy to remember what he told her when she was seven. This is the version of the Doctor she travelled with as a child, the one she first met. The Doctor she's been running around with is a copy, introduced by the time Cracks unwriting/rewriting,altering bits of time and space, possibly even so-called fixed points, like the Dalek invasion of Earth.
- The Doctor we've been watching is turning into the Valeyard, and he will have to battle his original self.
- With two Doctors around, one of them will self-sacrifice (Probably the one we've been watching) to close the cracks permanently.
- This may also fit with River's killing of 'the greatest man she ever knew', meaning that in the finale she will be forced to kill one of them to prevent the unraveling of the universe.
- I'm not sure your two theories are mutually exclusive. In "The Big Bang", it is revealed that the reason why there are two Doctors around is a Stable Time Loop, so those two Doctors become one again once the Stable Time Loop resolves. The Doctor still sacrifices himself to the Time Cracks, but is revived when Amy remembers him. As for your theory that the Doctor is turning into the Valeyard, and will have to battle his original self: The Doctor's affect throughout the series (or at least the last four episodes) seems to indicate that he's fighting against something inside of himself. When the Doctor flies the Pandorica into the TARDIS explosion, his affect indicates that (perhaps due to realizing that there is now no longer any point in trying to stop the TARDIS explosion and whatever is "coming out") he has resigned himself to letting the TARDIS explode, because he knows that the TARDIS explosion is needed to power Big Bang II. When the Pandorica closed around the Doctor, and the TARDIS burned up at
- This may also fit with River's killing of 'the greatest man she ever knew', meaning that in the finale she will be forced to kill one of them to prevent the unraveling of the universe.
- Jossed-the Doctor explicitly mentions that, if a crack takes you, you never existed. Not to mention, if the universe wasn't erased from time during Total Event Collapse, things wouldn't get as screwed up as they were.
- Not very far at all. The possibility was mentioned in the original series, called a time ram. The worst case is when a TARDIS collides with its own past/future self, adding the grandfather paradox to the mix. The result has been described as an explosion that can annihilate ever last star in half a galaxy, an explosion powerful enough to outshine ten million supernova. Ripping the fabric of space and time to shreds would fit right in. (And consider, in the Last Great Time War, such explosions may have become a routine tactic, when Gallifrey seemed in danger, ripping open cracks out of which crawled nameless things.)
- Revision: If the TARDIS won't blow up because of a malfunction, it will be caused by whatever comes out of the Pandorica, which is apparently strong enough to scare the crap out of all of the villains combined. The other bits still stand.
- First half confirmed. Second half seemingly Jossed, though we won't know until next season why precisely the TARDIS exploded.
- Well, both those instances are easily explainable. The First Doctor could have gotten a library card, and none of his later incarnations bothered to renew it with a new picture. As for the TARDIS printer, he only gave it time to print off his first two forms, if it had gone longer it probably would have printed Three, then Four, etc. etc.
- So that would make the little joke about this in "The Time of Angels" important...
- Sort-of confirmed.
- The cracks are the result of the paradox of the cracks consuming Rory? The paradox is only a paradox so long as the cracks already existed. Either its a complete mindfuck self fulfilling prophecy of a paradox, or it would just make more sense to resolve that paradox by not having an explosion in the first place.
- Oh come on, they're paradoxes. The laws of time and causality do not apply to them in the slightest. That's why they're paradoxes.
- Jossed.
- The enemies tab has since been removed. Plus, if not confirmed, it's very strongly implied it's a religious group called the Silence.
- Again, if not confirmed, it's very strongly implied it's a religious group called the Silence.
- Could be some sort of.. I dunno, psychic feedback? That sounds like DW technoexplanation. But also, this could make the Dream Lord a much deadlier villain. Because now he exists.
- Interesting! Maybe if his memories return, he'll get more angsty and less manic, like his predecessors who had never come to terms with the fall. Also, maybe the cracks reach further back, and that's why, per "The Lodger," he can't remember why he's called The Doctor.
- Or maybe he took Amy to Arcadia, Greece...or Arcadia before the Time War?
- Or a different Arcadia? There's 15 New Earths, why not two Arcadias?
- Or Arcadia, the burnt husk of a planet where once a mighty civilization lied?
- Confirmed, except because of his actions during the "rewind", he gets better.
- Confirmed. Still a lot better shape than Ten was, however.
- "Silence will Fall", actually, confirmed.
- Perhaps not the duck pond itself, but what it was (A duck pond with no ducks in it) that turns out to be the important thing. A theme in this series, perhaps?
- There were ducks in it before they were sucked up by the cracks. Because there were ducks in it, it was a duck pond. The cracks erased the ducks, but not the fact that it was a duck pond. The cracks Ret-Gone people, but you can realize that they existed if you figure out the plot holes it leaves in your life.
- Some ducks are aliens (like the bees), and they left because of the scary cracks.
- Maybe "How do you know it's a duck pond?" will eventually turn into "How do you know you're Amy Pond?" somehow.
- Ooh! Fridge Brilliance! The duck pond is definitely a metaphor for Amy, but the ducks are something else (when I started typing I was thinking Rory, as in "Who are you [duck pond/Amy] if you're missing something so important to who you are [ducks/Rory]?" but I just realized it could also apply to the Doctor. And again, I'm realizing that the fact that she didn't notice that the ducks were missing probably means its Rory.
- In a sense, this has turned up again. Just like the ducks (possibly) left their duck pond, the Saturnynians had to flee their home because of the Time Cracks. Maybe it was foreshadowing the then-future episode?
- Or maybe the ducks were sucked into the Crack.
- I'd like to add that, like those above, I just KNOW this is important, although I can't yet say exactly how! I'm not even sure if the duck pond and its lack of ducks is itself important, or if it merely served as a kind of 'pointer' to make it easy to remember the point in time. The moment I am getting at is in The Eleventh Hour, when the Doctor and Amy were.... erm....discussing the duck pond (as the end of the world rushed toward them), and then the Doctor started clutching at himself and saying 'No! It's too soon! I'm not done yet!!' . My weird head later combined this with his words from The Impossible Astronaut : 'Ah, humans, I thought I'd never get done saving you....'. This looks suspiciously like a link to me. [I know it just looks like the final remnants of his regeneration, which is how I interpreted it the first time I saw it, but it's actually a bit weird as it had been a while since he had last done any of that convulsing and clutching stuff, particularly since the knock with the cricket bat, which he claimed had set him straight.)
- This has Eleven's personality written all over it. The clerics said that the Crack seen in "Flesh and Stone" made them feel weird and sick, which is how the Doctor seems to feel during the entire second half of Series 5. Eleven's snog with Amy in "Flesh and Stone" marks a turning point in his character (and the Series itself) in which his TARDIS stops allowing him to sublimate his lust into anger, and starts compelling him to visit more tranquil locations and people. The tranquil locations he is compelled to visit are markedly sunnier than Leadworth, which is overcast for most of the Series. Moreover, the characters who live in Leadworth seem deeply depressed and inhibited. After Eleven closes the Cracks with Big Bang II, Leadworth becomes markedly sunnier, and its inhabitants become markedly more cheerful. The TARDIS may have deliberately crashed in Leadworth, because Leadworth is the perfect home for the Eleventh Doctor. However, the Atraxi scanned Eleven and discovered that if they allowed his interaction with the people in Leadworth to follow a natural course, the TARDIS would explode the universe. What the Atraxi (and the rest of the Alliance) did not realize was that this explosion would either result in rebooting the universe, or temporarily removing Eleven from from his body in a Small Bang I of sorts. The Alliance therefore made the mistake of tying the mechanics of the Pandorica to Eleven's superego, so that it would open when his superego cracked completely. The Pandorica's stasis-locking of Eleven could not stop him from destroying the universe, but it did prevent him from rebooting the universe when he was imprisoned inside it initially. Assuming the Pandorica is actually a Void Ship, Eleven was able to circumvent this problem by using the TARDIS explosion to desintigrate the Pandorica, and using the TARDIS explosion to power Big Bang II. (This may symbolize Eleven using his ID to power his superego). Eleven seems to hate Leadworth before Big Bang II, and love Leadworth after Big Bang II, because before Big Bang II, Leadworth is a personification of Eleven's repression issues, which drive him to risk suicide in Upper Leadworth, and in Big Ban II. Big Bang II seems like the resolution of the War's first battle. Expect the next resolution to deal with actual humanoid relationships.
- This would explain why "The Eleventh Hour" was criticized as banal, insipid, and homophobic. (If you ask this troper, "The Eleventh Hour" is insipid in an incredibly good way. Even the homophobia may be good, because it appears to be internalized within Eleven and Rory. Internalized homophobia is an important and troubling issue to the teen/young adult demographic that the Eleventh Doctor appeals to. However, unless the producers are lying, Rory's name tag cannot be used as evidence for this theory, as it is merely a production error according to Word of God. (Then again, Word of God also thinks that Amy does not fancy the Doctor). The fact that Word of God would deny that Amy fancies the Doctor indicates that Series 5 has too many Gods, too many target demographics, and/or too many canons (one canon for each target demographic.) On second thought, there's no such thing as too many Gods, canons, and/or target demographics. Giving Series 5 multiple canons allows it to be interpreted in multiple ways. Try watching "The Lodger" twice, first with the perspective of a child, then with the perspective of a teen. See the difference?
- I'm sorry WHAT? Homophobia? The hell?
- Google reveals no reviews mentioning homophobia in Eleventh Hour (particularly not when combined with "insipid" and "banal", which only leads back here).
- I'm sorry WHAT? Homophobia? The hell?
- Imagine if the arc is about time fractures that mess up dates, a plot point specifically written to Lampshade the UNIT dating controversy. Otherwise... Maybe the card was a mistake in Prisoner One's disguise.
- Episode 3 suggests this may be the case, a big deal is made of the fact that Amy doesn't remember the Dalek invasion of a few years back, possibly because it hasn't happened yet. Also, this season the Doctor seems even worse than usual at getting to the date he was aiming at.
- Not to mention that the Ood have advanced hundreds of years faster then they naturally should have been able to. It was brought up in End of Time, but The Doctor pretty much dropped it when The Master showed up.
- Apparently the title of Episode 8 is actually "The Hungry Earth".
- Alternatively, the Doctor and the TARDIS are arriving at the given time perfectly, but the rest of space-time is out of shape, events are not when they are supposed to be. I know, I know, it is through the events that time is really measured, not by the internal clock of the TARDIS, but we have seen some Timey Wimey on this show before.
- Or perhaps the Doctor is subconsciously seeking out ideal locations. Eleven's TARDIS behaves as if it considers the needs of Eleven's subconscious to be more important than the needs Eleven's higher brain. Eleven's omniscience may allow him to seek out the best possible location for him to be in the universe at any given time (It's always England because deep down, England is Eleven's favorite place.) The TARDIS follows the instuctions of Eleven's subconscious rather than what he thinks he wants.
- Possibly confirmed. The TARDIS later states that she always goes where she needs to take him.
At the end of "Victory of the Daleks", the Daleks escape into the future. This means the surviving Dalek ship can travel through time unhindered, and could return to capture Davros and Dalek Caan before they build the New Dalek Empire, averting the creation of the half-human Doctor clone and the genocide of the Dalek race. They would do this in order to enlist Davros' aid in building the new Dalek race, and to make use of Caan's precognition. The Doctor remembers the invasion for the same reason he remembers the Master's enslavement of the Earth. With the events surrounding the stolen planets never happening in the new timeline, Donna Noble is no longer half-Time Lord but has clearly parted with the Doctor for some other reason at some point between the altered events and present (as she is not present currently). However, as the Doctor is seemingly unaffected by changes in the timeline, he still remembers events as they should have been instead of how they now turned out. Therefore, he still believes Donna would die if she remembered him, and did not realise something was wrong with the timeline until Amy informs him that she does not remember the Dalek invasion.
- Well, since the Cracks erased the Dalek Invasion, as well as the Cyberking incident, I would consider it confirmed.
- Ever since "The Big Bang" it seems The Doctor Retcon'd a lot of earths recent history. For instance, later episodes show that no-one on earth seemed to remember the Daleks, Sycorax, or Torchwood. Possibly indicating that the Doctor either erased these events outright, or simply reworked the collective memory of everyone on the plant, which really wouldn't be all that difficult for him.
This troper's theory: Future!Doctor went back in time to set things in motion so that Amy would trust him and so she would remember what she told him all those years ago. Because he can't remember. All those cracks in time eating people's memories and erasing existences, one of the cracks is going to erase a bit of his memory (the Moff is being misleading by saying time travelers just have different perceptions of time-space, the sneaky bastard) and Amy will have to be there to remember it for him.
- And lets face it: if Steven bloody Moffat wrote this year's Story Arc, how could it NOT make liberal use of the Timey-Wimey Ball?
- Same guessing troper here. In "The Eleventh Hour" when little Amy is sitting outside, waiting for the Doctor to return (about 15:50 into the episode), the camera pulls back into the house, watching her from the kitchen window. A figure runs past the camera, obvious humanoid, probably not Prisoner Zero. The Future!Doctor messing with Amy's timeline some more perhaps?
- I think it could be a production error, but every single thing about the Doctor is different. Wearing a coat (a different coat from the rest of the episode, unless I’m mistaken, compare here◊ and here◊ with here◊, his future jacket appears somewhat darker), sleeves rolled up, and what looks like a different watch. Everything is different about the Doctor's mood. Even the way he kisses Amy on the forehead. This Doctor has certainly known Amy for longer. And they've got people on the set who keep track of these things. They write it down. They take pictures between takes and cuts. Getting one thing wrong? It’s likely. Getting everything wrong? Not so much. There’s no other explanation.
- As of the season finale, confirmed! Although he wasn't trying to get her to remember what he told her because he didn't know; he was trying to get her to remember what he was planning on telling her years ago (Timey-Wimey Ball), so that those memories (when triggered on her wedding day) would bring him back into existence.
- That shot is cut immediately to adult Amy waking up. I presume that was her dream, a rehash of an old memory interrupted by the sound of the real TARDIS.
- This Troper thought the same thing, but who knows? Maybe this series theme will be the Doctor rewriting time in various places, including in the forest and back with little Amelia.
- Sort of confirmed. He did go back in time for Amelia...so he could plant a story in her head that would be triggered on her wedding day, to save him from oblivion.
- That... is some freakily plausible Nightmare Fuel.
- So the reason the Aunt Amy says takes care of her isn't there is because her family all just fell in the crack a very short time ago and all Amy now knows is that there's something wrong with that crack in her wall. Sweet dreams.
- CONFIRMED.
- This troper thought he was referring to the line "Everything's gonna be fine."
- It was a different Doctor telling her to remember it, though. The one who came back had his jacket on, which he'd very clearly lost moments before. I reckon the Doctor who came back to her, and treated her in a much more kindly, fatherly manner, is a version of the Doctor who had travelled with Amy as a child, the events of which got unwritten from time, and he's still trying to get her to remember them.
- See the Viewers Are Geniuses entry on the "Flesh and Stone" page. The coat thing pretty much confirms this.
- Confirmed. Mostly. See a few entries up.
- Of COURSE Amy will be the key to solving this season's problem. She's been the reason for most of them already.
- In The Lodger She finds the engagement ring, and the crack gets bigger. I think perhaps the opposite is true.
- In the end, she does remember him, and that memory is used by the Autons to create a Rory mannequin, which ultimately helps solve the problem and bring him back for real. So...confirmed?
The Doctor is now locked in the Pandorica. But what's to stop this second Doctor sorting things out? No-one woud have to realise, at least not until the end of the episode where he would have to get them to let him out of the Pandorica (this works best if you assume the duplicate is his future self).
- Confirmed, but the truth is more mundane. It's a set of Stable Time Loops in which the Doctor uses the Vortex Manipulator to go back in time, give Rory his screwdriver, and let him out. (Among other things.)
Obviously they have to fix the cracks, so he will stay in existence. In Cold Blood, the Doctor pretty much stalled because of the giant crack, which allowed Restac time to catch up with them. With the distraction gone, they would have been outta there by the time she showed up and Rory would be alive. Logically speaking (if that's possible for a WMG).
- The Rule of Drama dictates that Restac catches up with them, no matter what.
- I'm calling it now, Rory will end up being saved in the finale. We all know (obviously) The Doctor will stop/fix the cracks at the end of the season and somehow Rory being taken by the light from that crack will be what ends up saving him from dying.
- Because otherwise all this 'Amy's wedding' foreshadowing will be COMPLETELY meaningless. And much of Amy's growth in character will be undone.
- But how will the Doctor prevent the Cyberking, Daleks and Weeping Angels from being brought back by the crack as well? That said, I've actually got an idea:
- The Crack leads to another dimension (unlucky Rory, being trapped with the three worst things in the Whoinverse). A part of The TARDIS was retrieved from the crack, implying the Doctor will go into the Crack. So if it's another dimension, then Rory can be saved without anything else escaping via TARDIS, even though it is also implyed that the TARDIS is destroyed, which could explain the reason behind the Blue Peter TARDIS Console Design Competition.
- Alternatively... We never saw Rory's body disappear, just it being enveloped by the crack's energy. The cracks seem to do different things. While evidence of his existence may well have been erased from the timeline, the crack actually brought Rory himself back to life. ... forever.
- But how will the Doctor prevent the Cyberking, Daleks and Weeping Angels from being brought back by the crack as well? That said, I've actually got an idea:
- He is fine, but it takes three or four episodes to actually take.
- Confirmed. The Doctor needed Amy to remember the TARDIS, and by extension the Doctor, so she could bring them back on her wedding day.
In the final episode, we see him showing the painting to Churchill. He says it's a message for the Doctor. If that scene is supposed to take place BEFORE Victory of the Daleks, why doesn't Churchill mention it to the Doctor? If it's after, then Bracewell is still working for Churchill, with all the knowledge of the Dalek tech. He could well have built a few more things along the lines of the spacegoing Spitfires which will show up in future episodes.
(As a Steampunk and Spitfire fan, I really want this to be true.)
- This is true, since if you look closely Bracewell is wearing a leather glove on the same hand the Daleks shot.
- But that's the point, the Doctor got it wrong. Indeed the whole plot of the ep was the Doctor getting things wrong. The Pandorica is a trap for him, Rory ia Nestene duplicate, the Romans aren't real romans and the aliens aren't coming to take the Pandorica there coming to put him INTO it.
- So? This doesn't really have anything directly relating to the alliance's plot, and besides, why couldn't the Doctor be wrong about the how but not the what? And again, explain how Auton-Rory wasn't really Rory when he remembers being plastic after Big Bang 2.
- Indeed the Doctor can be wrong about the how but not the what. Often he seems to be aware of the results of his actions, but is mystified about what motivated his actions in the first place. He may have known what procedure would work to instigate Big Bang II, but the look on his face right before the Pandorica closes indicates that he hasn't a clue about what is powering Big Bang II/The TARDIS explosion (it's probably him), and is becoming extremely confused by the TARDIS explosion's effect on his brain.
- I'm pretty sure this is exactly what happened. The Doctor says that when the Nestene Consciousness created Auton-Rory out of Amy's memories, they got more than they bargained for and resurrected the actual Rory as an auton. It wasn't a miracle. It was just a side effect of Amy being a Time Crack Baby.
- Either it was a side effect of Amy's connection to the Time Cracks, or because she was so close to him. She knows a lot about her childhood friend and fiance, enough data that when the Nestene made an Auton based upon him, it was so close as to basically be him; close enough for Time Wimey at least.
"Silence will Fall"
"The Pandorica will Open"
The other arc phrases may relate to quotes from Eleven that sound significant, such as: "I WAS NOT EXPECTING THIS!" and "What's coming out?"
As well as arc phrases, there also appear to be arc scenes in which the external conflict of the plot seems to mirror what may be Eleven's internal conflict. One of these scenes is the part of "Time of Angels" where Eleven is being attacked by Angels from both sides and fails to escape because he is unable to keep track of both sides at once. Another one of these scenes is the part of "Vincent and the Doctor" where Eleven is running from an invisible Krafayis that seems to terrify him (perhaps because it's invisible).
- The "what's coming out?" actually has the potential to be utterly freaking terrifying, if it gets used in the next season. I can't even remember where it was FROM, but still.
- What "comes out" can be seen in this full version of Bang Bang II: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXSxz3yYk9s. This clip suggests to me that the force that caused the TARDIS to explode may be an infinite power source that can be used for both good and evil. Indeed, Eleven has already used it for both good and evil. In his quest to become the Ubermensch (as evidenced by this fan-vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsABkKMfZrI&NR=1&feature=fvwp), he exhibits a lot of righteous fury in the first half of Series 5. In the second half of series 5, the TARDIS compels Eleven to go to more tranquil locations and make new friends with potential benefits. The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone two-parter serves as the dividing line between the two halves of the series: Eleven is on the verge of a tantrum in the first half, and is on the verge of "something else" in the second.
- I think it's from The Pandorica Opens.
- Alternatively, going on a theory that they're actually good guys, it was a plan to get the Doc more regenerations, as they believed that being basically recreated out of Amy's memories would set him back as the first, while still preserving his previous incarnations due to the Doctor himself remembering them. And whoever posted above that this had reset his regenerations was a Silent attempting to gain redemption in the eyes of the fans.
- If the Silence are good guys, they may have altered history so they can be Earth's protection. That way, even in the event of the Doctor's death, the universe will be safe. Or they're one of many individuals who think the Doctor is a threat to the universe. Their plan would mean the universe wouldn't stay destroyed, and be reset in the end. However the Doctor would be Deader than Dead, aka Ret-Gone. Everything he's doen to save reality, however, would remain. So the universe remains safe.
- Seems partly confirmed: their ends are good, but their means are extreme and backfire horribly.
The very reason the Silence wanted to kill the Doctor is to prevent him from kickstarting the chain of events that led him to turn the human race against them, but it was their assination attempt that triggered the chain of events leading to their defeat later. The Silence shot their own feet.
- Confirmed.
- This isn't WMG at all, Rory flat out said in the "11th Hour" that "you made me dress up as him". It seemed, based on context, that this was part of Amy's childhood game, however one has to wonder if the "game" didn't grow up along with Amy and Rory. That might explain Rory's awkwardness with the Doctor in the beginning, which always seemed to go a bit beyond simple jealousy.
So, the finale is approaching. Any idea?
- And it's Jossed!. It's the real Rory, too. In a manner of speaking.
- Jossed. He's the dark side of the Doctor's mind.
- In that case, why didn't the Alliance just shut down/turn to "obedient mode" the Artificial!Amy?
- Perhaps because they needed her to be as close to the "real" Amy as possible so that the Doctor wouldn't be suspicious?
- But when they eliminated her through Rory, the Doctor is already restrained and knows of the Alliance's plans. Perhaps they killed her because she would resist her programming even harder than Auton!Rory.
- Perhaps because they needed her to be as close to the "real" Amy as possible so that the Doctor wouldn't be suspicious?
- On the other hand, Amy's room is full of her art about the Doctor, also her two favorite childhood books. It looks more like the room of an 8-year-old girl than a 21-yo one. (Except for the wedding dress, which could have easily been placed there by the Alliance.) My theory is this: young Amy was kidnapped/killed, then a few days before the arrival of the Doctor kissogram Amy and Rory were placed in Ledgeworth, and a perception filter was applied to other inhabitants of the village. The fact that we know plenty of Amy's childhood and her present self, but nothing in-between seems to support his. Prisoner Zero was also part of the plan, he made sure that the Doctor gets interested in Amy and is informed about the Pandorica arc. When Rory is absorbed by the crack, he gets erased from history because he never existed in the first place. In essence, it's nothing more than a perception filter shutting down. (Still working on why the clerics get erased)
The violent regeneration pretty thoroughly trashed the TARDIS and it's in for a crash landing at "The End of Time Part 2". Just the damage we saw could well be enough to justify building a new set for the interior of the TARDIS and stranding the Doctor on Earth for some time while he fixes the TARDIS.
- Jossed. While the TARDIS did get repaired (with a new control room), she did so herself and was fixed within a day. He gets stranded later on in "The Lodger", but that's not in the same league as Three's three-year exile.
- Jossed. There's some Daleks from the Medusa Cascade; they're loyal to both the Dalek Supreme (or "Supreme One") AND Davros, so they fit neither Renegade or Imperial. The taller ones with colour schemes were a new post-Time War breed created through a Progenitor device. In other words, prior to series 5, these five Daleks did not exist.
- Confirmed. Ish. The Doctor Who Experience (a "walk-through episode" in the UK) has a battle between the old Daleks and Paradigm Daleks as a setpiece.
- In terms of series 5 itself, Jossed. The old Daleks willingly let themselves be killed by the Progenitors, due to their inferior DNA.
- It's on, at the very least, Jeff's laptop and a bunch of the coma equipment. Some sort of Blue Sun / FatBoy Industries type company, perhaps?
- Jossed. Looks like it was a red herring.
- Not necessarily. Matt Smith has said there are not one but FIVE arc words. So assuming that the Silence the cracks and the Pandorica were three of them that leaves two extra. And the arc ISN'T over as the identity of who created the Cracks will be revealed in series 6.
- Wasn't another of the Arc Words suppose to be "time can be rewritten?" Shouldn't that count as well?
- Jossed, but they did have a very important part to play in the finale.
- We know Jack will go through a massive physical transformation as a result of just being sooooo old.
- Jack has hinted that he has had past...err...contact with space whales.
- After the events detailed in Children of Earth, Jack will likely feel an obligation and duty that will make him friends to all children, and feel especially obligated to the children of the UK.
- The Space Whale's plan consisted of going to earth, being captured, being used a means of transport, and then being painfully tortured over the course of several centuries until someone awesome rescues him, which follows the standard arc of most Jackplans.
- Or even more depressing, Jack due to his actions in the sixties led to multiple deaths latter on including his own grandson. Will be driven to protect the Children of Britain. He knows already what is going to happen to him but takes it as a form of penance, hundreds of years of agony for the deaths of Ianto and his grandson. And for how many other people killed by his actions or inaction no matter how necessary .
- All previous "new Who" companions had a downer ending. After Donna, it will be rather hard to raise the stakes, but this might just cut it.
- How is Martha choosing to leave of her own accord because she's sick of pining over the Doctor a downer ending? She left of her own free will and had (still has as far as I'm aware) the ability to contact the Doctor if she needs him.
- The duck pond doesn't have any ducks, because it's just a figment of her imagination.
- If this theory is not true, some villains might still mess with Amy's brain, leaving her to believe it is, à la Captain Sisko in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.
- Alternatively, she might be a lonely girl starving to death in an empty house.
- Yeah, probably not...
- Added: I was pointed out to Adelaide Brooke too.
- Jackson hasn't come back, but the bodies of water are indeed significant— River Song = Melody Pond!
- 1.Execute a renegade Time Lord
- 2.Force the Doctor to regenerate.
- 3.Delete an entire military regime and all its soldiers from history.
- So the reason Amy Pond recalls no Daleks is because she erased them from history, just as the Time Lords intended. PS.She's the Nightmare Child (since she's the only companion we see as a child or having a nightmare).
- Jossed. Rory got erased from time and The Doctor kept all his memories of him. Had he been the Master he would have lost them and who knows what would happen to his mind if that happened.
- So...the dreams were all because the TARDIS's consciousness! The dust that had knocked the three into unconsciousness DID get into the TARDIS's engine, and since it has been said the TARDIS is a sentient being, it manifested itself as the Dream Lord.
- This theory would explain why the TARDIS seems to do the Dream Lord's bidding. In the scene in "Vincent and the Doctor" where the Doctor introduces Vincent to the TARDIS, the Doctor does not quite look in control of the situation, which may indicate that the TARDIS decided to invite Vincent inside. The TARDIS misbehaves more severely in "The Lodger". Rather than directing Eleven's subconscious to a certain location as it seems to do in "Vincent and the Doctor", it takes him to a place he never consciously intended to go, and throws Eleven out until he takes action in stabilizing the TARDIS (by stabilizing the crashed Time Engine). If the TARDIS is as lust-powered as it behaves, then Eleven could have stabilized it by actually going along with what it wanted in several episodes (if not the entire series). These episodes include: "The Eleventh Hour", "Flesh and Stone", "Vincent and the Doctor", "The Lodger", and "The Pandorica Opens". Eleven finally stabilizes the TARDIS (at least temporarily) in "The Big Bang".
- This kind of thing could tie in with River Song saying "After all, we're all fairy tales." at the end of Flesh and Stone.
- One can only wonder then what was going through her mind then to create the events of A Fix With Sontarans...
- Semi-Confirmed, argubly.
- ...Cold Blood may well have just done this. No Rory, no wedding, no character development for Amy, etc. Cue massive paradox that causes gigantic rifts and cracks in time!
In Attack of the Graske, the camera man is confirmed to be in-universe, as the Doctor addresses him: (Including you, mate. Where DO you get the energy?). Therefore, we can conclude that the reason the Angels didn't move during Blink when Sally/Cathy/Larry couldn't see them is not because the audience was looking at them, as was originally thought, but because the camera man was looking. Whereas, in Flesh and Stone, the camera man looks away (though of course the audience can't see this, as he's behind the camera), and thusly the Angels move.
- Jossed. The Doctor was talking to the audience member with the remote/mouse, not any camera man. Who looks directly into a lens to speak to a camera man?
- Not quite, but she did wind up inside it for a couple of thousand years until Amelia touched it to restore her.
- It seems more likely that Amy is the main reason the Pandorica unlocked itself from the inside. In "The Pandorica Opens", the Pandorica seems to unlock every time the Doctor gets an impulse, so when Amy snogs the Doctor in "Flesh and Stone", the kiss may have resulted in the Pandorica unlocking.
- That second bullet is completely Jossed like it isn't even funny.
He's gone, pretty much set up to be the Adric of the new generation, and is never coming back.
Amy may well not survive the finale either, which would make two dead companions in the span of one season for the Eleventh Doctor. Moffat may well be trying to break The Doctor more than RTD ever did... 06/26/2010 could be the date of Amy's death, not her wedding.
- Jossed. Rory, is back, as a human and everything. Amy's killed in the climax of the first part, but she was Only Mostly Dead.
- Except the Doctor's tastes and preferences change from regeneration to regeneration, and he was trying to figure out what food he liked then. He threw out the bacon, don't forget, and for some reason fish is considered something vegetarians actually can eat (not vegans, however, but that's digressing). We haven't seen Eleven eat anything else yet, so he could be vegetarian, theoretically, if he dislikes other meats. Plus, given the inevitable rise to "Dream Lord is the Valeyard" theories it could also be a shout-out to Six, the Doctor who met the Valeyard, being vegetarian.
- While we don't see him eat it, the omelette that the Doctor cooks in The Lodger has ham in it. That makes a shout-out a more likely explanation.
- During The Two Doctors, the Sixth Doctor vows to become a vegetarian after meeting an Androgum (and seeing Two turned into one as well). This does not stick forever (Nine had steak in Boom Town) and wouldn't fit with the Dreamlord's comment anyway; the Doctor swore off meat because he was thoroughly disgusted by what he'd seen his previous self become. The Dreamlord's comment implied moral condescension, not personal distaste, while the Doctor vowed to become a vegetarian in much the same way that a drunkard may swear, "I'll never drink again."
- It's possible that the Doctor is either wrong or completely lying at the end of the episode, explaining the dreams as being caused by "sleep dust" or whatever. He seemed a bit ''too'' quick in explaining that...plus the last shot of the Dream Lord in his reflection...
Somehow, during the regeneration, the Doctor managed to break through to another universe. Due to the fact he had just finished regenerating, and into a madman no less, he didn't realise this. Breaking through to the other universe caused the cracks, and it explains why Amy can't remember the Daleks.
The two problems with this are River and Churchill. River could have moved between universes, if a future doctor told her she had to, and how to do it. And as for Churchill, this universe may have split after WW2, so when the Doctor travelled back in time it was to a time when the two universes were together.
- River and Churchill could be explained, actually. Maybe Amy's Universe had it's own Doctor who had similar - but not identical - adventures.
- In that case that universe is in more trouble than I thought; having two doctors has got to have repurcussions somewhere; maybe that's contributing to the cracks.
- ...Davros.
- Soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies? Anyone remember that alternate universe he destroyed in Turn Left?
- Technically, it was Donna who destroyed that universe by killing herself. Plus, the Reality Bomb was stopped before detonation, therefore, the only destroyed universe was destroyed because of Donna.
- The universe was already fading before Donna killed herself, so Davros would still have gotten quite a lot of galaxies
- Soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies? Anyone remember that alternate universe he destroyed in Turn Left?
- ...Zagreus.
- Rule of Cool. What can I say, I really want to see Moffat tackle that plotline.
- ...The nightmare child or one of the other players in the time war
- The time war did some major damage, possibly destroying a billion galaxies(or one galaxy at a billion points in time). Since the Daleks are already present there, it's not them. It is possibly trying to erase the time war from time so it can escape.
- ...The Doctor.
- Or that alternate timeline version of him that everyone is convinced is out there, or future version of him that's another nod to the Valeyard, and just a future version of him that's not evil, but it was the only way his enemies could finally whoop him.
- The quote from the Next Time trailer is an incredibly apt description of the Doctor:There was a goblin. Or a trickster, or a warrior. A nameless, terrible thing, soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies. The most feared being in all the cosmos.
- Every Doctor Who villain in the known universe would absolutely show up if they know that someone already had the Doctor locked up in a cage.
- It explains how River could kill the greatest man she'd ever known — a hero to millions — and still be relatively flippant about it: she killed "the Doctor", but not THE Doctor, and got locked up by people who didn't realise the difference.
- This one's confirmed...in a certain sense.
- ...The Black Guardian.
- Stolen from elsewhere on this page.
- ...Cthulhu.
- Hey, someone had to say it!
- The Doctor was imprisoned in the Pandorica... Perhaps the Doctor is Cthulu and Cthulu is the most benevolent Old One?
- Hey, someone had to say it!
- ...Chuck Norris.
- Now """THAT'S""" someone to be scared of!
- Chuck Norris wouldn't let a silly little thing like the Pandorica detain him.
- Hence why he's breaking out. From his perspective, it only held him for like half a second.
- Now """THAT'S""" someone to be scared of!
- ...Rory.
- He somehow survived, and is pissed at the Doctor for leaving him behind.
- The Void itself
- Remember the thing the daleks and Cyberman were sucked into? It'll be back. And EATING THE UNIVERSE. It'll be a convient way to bring back the OTHER Doctor and the daleks and cybermen in them as well
- Everyone and everything the Cracks have consumed
- Omniversal Reset Button perhaps?
They were ALL Jossed by the episode. What was in the Pandorica? Nothing. It's an empty cage. But once it's open, the epic alliance of villains trap the Doctor inside and then close it up again. (so those who guessed that it'd be the Doctor were almost right)
- River: Vortex manipulator.
- Confirmed, but the Doctor himself rescues her with it.
- The Doctor: Auton!Rory lets him out (the Doctor says it's easy to open from the outside).
- The rumors that there is a second Doctor are true. He will let himself out.
- It's both, actually. A future Doctor hands his sonic to Rory.
- The rumors that there is a second Doctor are true. He will let himself out.
- Amy: Disney Death?
- No. She's really dead, but Only Mostly. The Pandorica's puts her in stasis before she receives a living DNA sample from her younger starless-timeline self.
- The Stonehenge was old even in the Roman times; it's the oldest known structure in the area, as old as the pyramids of Egypt (which too are a millennia older than the Roman Empire).
- For the purpose of this WMG, we're subscribing to the popular theory that Stonehenge was still a complete circle in Roman times, that was later sacked and then partially restored.
- From where?
- The Stonehenge was old even in the Roman times; it's the oldest known structure in the area, as old as the pyramids of Egypt (which too are a millennia older than the Roman Empire).
- The space-time coordinates Vincent painted: the Big Bad is controlling when time-travelers end up, so River and the TARDIS could've been manipulated.
- The Romans: fake.
- The absence of modern-day people: The villains killed them all (and shot down any planes).
- Jossed. The Doctor states it's 102 AD by looking at his timey watch, and Rory says on several occasions he waits for centuries to reunite with Amy in 1996. Did the villains (oh, wait, WHAT villains?) manipulate the museum exhibits about the Lone Centurion too? Did they create a fake Blitz to bury Rory in? And I don't see how co-ordinates on a PAINTING can mess up the Doctor's sense of history.
- The Romans ARE fake, however. They're Autons.
- Wha?
- The two Doctors, two Amys ending is foreshadowed by Amy having a different name when the Doctor sees her again. There is an Amelia Pond, traveling with the other!Eleven and an Amy Pond, who we have been following.
- Please explain?
- I'm assuming the original writer meant that the hand we see from the unnamed handsome Time Agent was actually Jack's.
Jackie Tyler became a recurring character.Martha's father appeared several times, and her mother played an important part in the Harold Saxon plot arc.Donna's mother also appeared a lot, and Wilfred got given a starring role in The End of Time.
But we never see evidence of Amy's aunt.
On to the second part of the theory.
So far, every previous episode of the series which didn't either mention or show cracks (not including the first parts of two parters) has contributed a character to the final. A lot of them don't even do anything important; really, what purpose does Queen Elizabeth from The Beast Below serve? She's just there. And the crack at the end of The Lodger didn't do anything other than make the viewer worry. Basically, every episode has a connection to The Pandorica Opens.
Except for Amy's Choice. And I'm not sure I buy the story of the Dreamlord being the Doctor. I think he was the one piloting the Tardis with River inside.
And these two link together like this; he tricked Amy's mind into believing that she had an aunt, when she didn't. He never actually appeared to her, he just made sure she was able to stay alive until the Doctor came. Somehow, and for some reason, he was using her to lure the Doctor.
I'm not going to push this as a theory, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that that half of Amy's house doesn't exist; all we ever see is the passage, her bedroom and the kitchen. Everything else is just empty rooms, as the Doctor pointed out.
- There's even this stairway going to... the ceiling◊. Not weird and suspicious ''at all''.
- What the Heck!? How come I never noticed that before? It's like there's a 'real' perception filter around that door...
- Obviously, we were all distracted by a hot redhead in a police outfit...
- Trap door to the attic. Though I got to agree, we should have noticed that. Now we need to get a boombox and a recoding of a Dalek yelling "Explain" (because I really, really like it), take that picture, print it up, corner Stephen and play the recording while showing him the picture to confirm it.
- Wasn't Amy's aunt seen in the beginning of "The Big Bang", when Amy is 7? She's the one who talks about "star cults".
Amy is asleep, and has been asleep for the entire series. She may still be a little girl who only dreamed she grew up.
However, she is not having a regular dream, rather the dreamlord is controlling it. The village where she lives, the Doctor, Rory, and everything and everyone else, are real. The dreamlord possibly has more power than he seemed to, and can influence people in the village's thinking. Amy's house isn't really there, or it's just old and abandoned, hence the empty rooms. The Amy everyone sees is simply the dream version of her. That's why her life "makes no sense": everything personal about it is a dream.
- It's been hinted that he's a member of the Silence. And since he's Prisoner Zero, that could mean he's either the first prisoner the Atraxi caught, OR he's the leader.
- The whole scheme is centered on Amy, and the Doctor's greatest weakness (and strength) is always his companion.
- The Doctor speculates in the Dream Lord episode about there being only one person who hates him so much, and is implied that that's the Doctor himself. Now, Human!Ten * is* the Doctor, (has his memories) additionally he was screwed over by the the Doctor. (stranded in a human body, with no TARDIS) Add Ten's emotional instability in late gap year to the mix, and you have the ultimate Omnicidal Maniac.
- Someone was trying to build a TARDIS...
- He sends his greatest enemies on a wild goose chase after the real Doctor while he enacts the last phase of his plan.
- His voice is disembodied because he transmits it through the cracks.
- He can be the "good man, a hero to many" who gets killed by River.
- I'm not going to rule out the theory River killed the Doctor (or his clone), but she was already in jail at the beginning of the episode. It could have been for something else, I guess.
- In * Silence* in the Library, Ten doesn't trust River, also mentions the possibility of River taking the screwdriver from his dead body. Maybe she did...
- No chance, that it happens like that. I just wanted to add it, because I like the part about the Lonely God.
- Holy crap, this is brilliant! It makes so much sense!
- It actually does, I agree. Matt Smith apparently said in one panel that the Big Bad of the season was in the first episode "but not in a conventional way," the TARDIS has certainly taken some abuse from the Doctor over the years (intentional or not, that could cause some bitterness), and... the TARDIS never died in the 2015 Leadworth dream. It could still be dreaming while its dark side takes over.
- If the TARDIS is evil, why did BBC America re-air an episode seemingly designed to repair mental imbalance in its audience? I'd say the TARDIS is approximately half-evil, half-good.
- First off, what? Second off, did he say "the first episode", or "The Eleventh Hour". Because, as you all seem to forget (I blame the cracks in time) 11's first episode WASN'T The Eleventh Hour, it was The End of Time. Ten regenerated in that episode, and we saw 11 for the first time. Taking that interpretation of his words, it opens up the Big Bad List to every Time Lord (everyone from the Meddling Monk to The Master to The Rani), Handy (10 and Handy are both 10, so that could be the meaning of "not in the conventional way), Captain Jack Harkness (the man REALLY wants to die, I wonder what happens when an immortal fixed point in time actually finds a way, going by the last few times someone messed with a fixed point, it can't be healthy for anything), The Dreamlord (The Dreamlord is The Doctor, The Doctor was in both The End of Time and The Eleventh Hour, this is the most likely), The Valeyard, who may be the Dreamlord, time itself (because, well, what else hasn't tried to kill the Doctor yet?) or even Donna.
But their is one incongruity. Mr. Pond is played by a "Helco Johnston". A quick Google search, as well as one of IMDB reveals no such person. Now, conceivably, they hired a really obscure actor, who doesn't even show up on Google. But I'd call that unlikely, especially with a name as unusual as Helco. This is clearly a pseudonym, and possibly an anagram, though for what I have no idea. But there's clearly something to conceal.
I'm guessing that Mr. Pond is a character we've seen before. If so, he's probably not a hero. I can't think of any heroic character whose identity they wish to conceal, which leaves villains. They'd only go to these lengths if it was someone important, so I'm guessing he's the main villain. I'm not just basing this on meta evidence. Amy says that she doesn't have parents. What does that even mean? And now he turns up. For the finale. I'd guess that he's going to play a major role, and not as a protagonist.
If anyone can crack the anagram or whatever it is for Helco Johnston, I'd be quite appreciative.
- "CLOTHES ON JOHN"? ...so Captain Jack is gonna turn up and not take his pants off?
- Yes. The new Whoniverse is a Mirror Universe. In the Series 5 Whoniverse, Eleven was biologically programmed to seduce people like Rory Pond or Jack Harkness. In the Series Shag Whoniverse, Jack Harkness is the only person who can refuse to have sex with Eleven, and Eleven is the only person who can refuse to have sex with Rory.
- CHEST JOHN LO NO — Captain Jack will appear and have a shirtless scene, but not a pantless scene?
- OK. The big name I get out of it is Elton John; that leaves you with COSH, which doesn't make any particularly good words, which is unfortunate. You can also get STONE (which seems to link with the stone Dalek that's been seen) and that leaves you with LOCH JOHN. So god knows what's going on.
- JOHN LOCH?
- For the record, cosh is a perfectly fine word itself, meaning, among other things, to knock someone unconscious with a blunt instrument. So clearly the universe will be saved by Amy knocking Elton John's character out with a cricket bat. Presumably to stop him chasing the Doctor with a hatchet while singing Anthem.
- OK. The big name I get out of it is Elton John; that leaves you with COSH, which doesn't make any particularly good words, which is unfortunate. You can also get STONE (which seems to link with the stone Dalek that's been seen) and that leaves you with LOCH JOHN. So god knows what's going on.
- CHLOE JOHNSTON - doesn't have the hugest filmography, but at least she shows up on IMDb. As for MR. Pond, maybe he is a hermaprodite.. or a shapeshifter.. and a monkey-robot-pirate-ninja as well.
- CELT HO JOHNSON - a slutty druid, fits well with the Stonehenge.
- Jossed, and Amy's dad is played by ''Halcro'' Johnston, and he has been in some minor parts.
- Eh, it was a reasonable theory. Wikipedia was wrong, so it was based on incorrect information, but I feel my conclusions were reasonable given the available information.
- You were almost correct actually! You just got the wrong Mr. Pond! The mid-series cliffhanger involves Rory Pond snogging Eleven against the wall of the TARDIS. His reason? He thinks that he and Eleven need to move past their internalized homophobia. Technically, Eleven has already moved past this mentally, but he has not accepted Rory's existence emotionally. The Whoniverse is not fixed. It is a Pete's World with all the sadness dumped into the Series 5 Whoniverse. Even after the "Flesh and Stone" kiss, the Eleventh Doctor felt comfortable in his role. For Eleven, the "Flesh and Stone" snog was a localized Time Loop and out-of-body experience, so Eleven had as much time as he wanted to examine the situation. He determined that there was a 50% chance of Amy's plotline having a happy ending, and decided that 50% was acceptable odds. Eleven may have been a lot more scared of the snog with Rory (which I like to call the "Stone and Flesh" cliffhanger). This would explain why it was uncertain for a few weeks in October of 2010 whether or not the Eleventh Doctor would reprise his role in Series Seven. Note that Eleven was a lot more committed to portraying the second half of Series 5. Luckily he's decided to portray Series Seven despite the fact that it climaxes with his worst nightmare.
- Mid-series cliffhanger nonsense Jossed.
- As of "The Wedding of River Song" we've got another Mr. Pond, who has far more potential for villainy than the other two...
- The Pandorica was based on her mind, and she seems to fit perfectly for what the Doctor needed when he found her: someone to constantly take his mind off of his troubles.
- Plastic!Rory was a fake, who believed he was real, so it's not out of the question.
- Planted by the Daleks or one of their 'allies'(they're also going to turn on their so-called alliance).
- Wouldn't that make the Doctor Amy's father? If so, perhaps Amy will have a child named Susan later?
- Jossed. Nope, they're clearly different actors. No aliases like Anthony Ainley.
- Also, Rory might be Luke, which will boost the squick-factor of their relationship to the skies.
- Note that the cracks are affecting EVERY universe, even the SW one. These three character fell through a crack into the Whoniverse and forgot who they were.
- The first crack was created when the Emperor hit the reactor. Good news for the Endor Holocaust Theory.
- Jossed. Amy recognises her father in "The Big Bang" right away.
- In "Eleventh Hour", Rory mentions how Amy asked him to dress up as the Doctor when they were kids. Now, a 20-ish guy playing with young Amelia is a bit weird...
- the eleventh hour set up the basic premise, introduced Amy and Rory, whose interaction was vital in the finale
- the beast below gave us elizabeth X, who appeared in the first part
- victory of the daleks gave us churchill and the new daleks, both making appearances in the finale
- The time of Angels and Flesh and stone gave us foreshadowing of the finale and the effect of the cracks in time and space, which shows that Rory should not have been able to survive.
- The vampires of Venice and Amy's choice both had the underlying story of connecting Rory and Amy again and to set up the adventures of Rory with the doctor.
- The hungry earth and cold blood gave us Homo Reptillius and the death of Rory
- Vincent and the Doctor gave us the painting that led to River breaking out of prison
- And then came The Lodger. The only influence this episode had on the finale was Amy finding the engagement ring, something that happened in a single scene and had no influence on the rest of the plot. This is the only episode in the season where the main plot did not work towards the finale. Maybe it has yet to show up.
- The lodger had part of a house being a tardis, and a staircase into nowhere (although IMO the one in amy's house◊ looks like there is another floor there - you can see the two ceilings aren't the same height)
- Given that in The Pandorica Opens the Doctor said that Amy's house was too big and had too many rooms, and that Steven Moffat has said that the Big Bad is in the first episode, but not the way you'd expect, I'm guessing that Amy's House is the Big Bad.
- look at her front door. The window pattern makes it look very much like a police box
- So the big bad is a minotaur and her house is the house?
- Nope, Jossed. However, the black TARDIS does not appear again until the series 6 premiere.
- Jossed. All the Time Lords are still dead, as confirmed by "The Doctor's Wife".
- Jossed. The Time Lords are still lost as of "The Doctor's Wife".
- This troper just had a Funny Aneurysm. Well played.
- Wait, that can't be right. Jeff's grandma says she knows the Raggedy Doctor from Amy's childhood drawings; there's no indication that she knows him from anywhere else.
- River has already told Amy that she often had to lie (pretend not to recognize Amy, pretend to be sad at the Doctor's death, etc.). Amy could have been doing the same thing. Also, River and the Old Woman (Mrs. Angelo - Angelo was also the name of a cleric in The Time of Angels, the first time Amy meets River) in 11th Hour seem to own the same brooch.
Once the TARDIS in The Lodger got a taste of the power it could have working with/for The Doctor, it needed more, and rather than give up The Doctor because of The Power of Love, it actually went back in time, and replaced the real TARDIS while The Doctor was talking to Amelia.
To prove this point, if you would remember, at the beginning of the episode The Lodger, The Doctor is inexplicably thrown out of the TARDIS by a burst of air, which one would assume was because of the time loops. But, if you believe this theory, you could say that it was actually an action done purposely by the faux-TARDIS to get The Doctor to meet it's past self, so it could go back in time to replace the true TARDIS...
This theory, while far out, explains why both Prisoner Zero in The Eleventh Hour, and Angel Bob in the Weeping Angel two parter both said "The Doctor <in the TARDIS> doesn't know what's going on." Now, as a throwaway line, that doesn't seem like much, but they are actually telling The Doctor, "Helloo! You are IN the problem!"
- Additionally, The Moff has said that the culprit behind the cracks has showed up in The Eleventh Hour, although not obviously. How much more do we need?
- And in the preview for Series 6, there are shots of the TARDIS from The Lodger. (while the way it looks is constant with The Lodger, and not how it looks through the rest of the series, it may be explained.)
- And there is talk that Craig will be returning for Series 6.
- Jossed as of season six. Although, it's now even spookier given how the Silence remained secret. They were in The Eleventh Hour, but you've forgotten you saw them, kinda like the way the angels move.
- Except that it was only the 29th century when Earth was roasted. It's been implied that Liz X has been reigning for close to 300 years, and she's the one who set up the whole system. Ergo, The Beast Below doesn't take place in the 29th century but the 32nd.
- But that still makes her birthdate to be 1893. Basically, it's either this or that computer can't do a simple calculation.
- We're never told if Liz X actually took command before the solar flares struck Earth. If Amy was born in 1989, then the age given in The Beast Below would place the year as 3295, which is three centuries after the 29th century.
- Jossed. The explosion was in Leadworth, 2010, not in orbit around a cold star.
- If that actually happens, I will hunt you down IRL and give you a plate of cookies. After laughing hysterically at the screen."Why do you have a leg in a jar?"
- Status: Jossed. Oh well.
- Why cut off your limbs when you can bleed regeneration energy into a cool hat?
- Not necessarily Jossed. We don't know exactly what the Eleventh Doctor did between crash landing on Earth and climbing out of the TARDIS in front of Amy. Plus it's very large inside the TARDIS. His "spare parts" might be stored somewhere out of sight.
Isn't the Doctor. It's Rory. Firstly because the Doctor is plainly going to survive. And secondly because it's just so obvious that it can't possibly be the Doctor. It's like reverse psychology or whatever. Make it seem like she's talking about the Doctor when it's actually not. Fair warning, I haven't seen "A Good Man Goes To War" yet because I live in the US, so Idunno if this is late to the game but...yeah.
- Jossed. Technically, no-one is killed, but who she's accused of murdering is the Doctor.
Their first attempt to commit suicidal genocide on a cosmic scale was to blow up the TARDIS, making every star everywhere everywhen blow up, making sure that the universe would never house any lifeform.
But the Doctor twarthed their plan of cosmic annihilation and restored the universe in a second Big Bang.
The Silence didn't give up for much, and trigerred a second plan, more subtle which consists on making the Doctor's death a fixed point in time, and making sure that himself and his companions will try and suucced into averting his death, creating a total collapse of reality and destroying the entire universe eventually.
However, the Doctor survived again and their plan was foiled ultimately, but the Silence is still lurking in the shadows waiting for the next oppurtunity to blowup everything into oblivion.
we know that the tardis heart is able of desintegrating anything or anyone unfortunate enough to fall in it.
so,the tardis explosion made that every rift connected somehow to the time vortex would open directly inside of the tardis heart,erasing everything in its proximity from history due to the artron energy overload.
let's see in the series 5,they wanted apparently to annihilate the whole universe,sure it's a mighty goal and everything, but it doesn't lead to anything, and they didn't seem like the daleks (willing to destroy everything because you see it as inferior to yourself)so what's the gain?
in fact, they knew the doctor has some kind of cosmic karma armor thet protects him from harm and enable him to win most often than not also he will be involoved personally with their fall.so, what they do? turning thet advantage on him of course!
they gambled with blowing up the universe and themeselves with it because they knew from the start that the doctor will find a way to save the day and they even manipulated the doctor enemies from behind the scenes to enact a specific scenario in which the doctor will be able to save the day but with one condition: erasing himself from history, so that the rebooted universe will be without a doctor to counter them and stop them eventually.
but the doctor was restored thanks to amy.the silence went to their next plan:making the death of the doctor a fixed point in time by locking in an overly complicated stable time loop with river in its center.the doctor survived at the end by tricking out time and closed the loop.
but you'll say to do all that they need to know a lot about the doctor?the answer:they do,because they were with him in the tardis even before the first episode of the show!!they kew from his visits on earth that he was a poweful being with nigh-godlike technology, but with an influencable mind like humans and surely many other races in the universe, so they assigned spies to follow him everywhere and to explore the tardis and even give some post-hypnotic suggestions to the doctor and his compaignons in order to manipulate them.
they found at first that he was useful for their plans and let him do all the hard work for them (fighting the daleks,locking the time war,...), but the more he approched the fatidic day the more he becomes menacing for the silence,until it ends with ten and his time lord victorious thing.with him becoming more difficult to influence and whithout eventually any universe menacenig big bad in view besides them,they thought that the doctor has outlived its uselefulness and decided to get rid of him.
also a last note,the silence never stated explicitly that they were limited to earth and to human history.nothing says that they couldn't already be in effective control everywhere in the universe from the begining of time orchestring all the races of the cosmos in a great unknown plan that would encompass the entitre universe, and that the doctor himself would be merely a pawn working for the silence,and his "whacking kick in the backside of the silence" being merely a tactical loss of negligble effect for them in the great scheme of things ,making them the biggest and scariest magnificent bastards in any tv show ever.
P.S:they needed all the incarnations of the doctor prior to eleven,which makes it obvious that the universe will reboot with having a doctor but only up to ten,in this new universe the doctor failed to regenerate and died in a fiery explosion and the tardis burned in the reentry due to shield failure.the eleven of this reality summoned by amy's mind is a copy of the doctor from the previous universe with all his memories from his birth to "the big bang 2" being intact.
- They can't get trapped in car doors like neckties can. Eleven was wearing a necktie that Amy Pond grabbed and slammed it in a car door, then later in the episode when he got the chance to change clothes, out of the choices he had he ultimately picked a bow tie. Coincidence? Perhaps not.
- There was still some in the TARDIS, the paradoxes and explosion spread it through history.
- Leadworth is characterised as "the village that Time forgot".
- In the dreamverse, the old in Leadworth were preying on the young to stretch out their unnatural existences.
- Rory's badge is 20 years out of date.
- Leadworth cannot engender life: the duck pond has no ducks.
- It all adds up to Leadworth being held unnaturally in stasis—out of Time, if you will.
- Leadworth seems to be culturally frozen in the year 1996, despite having the technology of 2010. This may be because Leadworth is the closest thing Eleven has to an ideal permanent residence (The neighborhoods of Craig and Vincent are likely second-best). Eleven has a love/hate relationship with all of the places in which he lives, especially the TARDIS herself. His hate for the TARDIS' destinations manifests itself as Time Cracks that suck the life, passion, happiness, and existence out of every place he goes. The technology of these places remains modern, because Eleven has no problem with the strength of his neocortex (other than the fact that his amygdala keeps interfering with its functioning).
- Supreme (white): The Big Bad
- Strategist (blue): The Dragon
- Scientist (orange): The Evil Genius
- Drone (red): The Brute
- Eternal (yellow): The Dark Chick
- "THE BOTTLE HAS SPUN! DALEK ETERNAL MUST SNOG DALEK STRATEGIST!"
- Someone has to draw that now, complete with Dalek Scientist scuttling around at top speed with a lampshade on its head.
- "MY VISION IS IMPAIRED!"
- Someone has to draw that now, complete with Dalek Scientist scuttling around at top speed with a lampshade on its head.
- Truth or Dare with Daleks. I swear, that would be the best party ever.Scientist: DALEK ETERNAL, TRUTH OR DARE?Eternal: ...TRUTH.Drone: WHO IS YOUR CRUSH?Eternal: ...CAN I DO A FORFEIT?
- In "The Eleventh Hour", Prisoner Zero taunts the Doctor- 'the Doctor in the TARDIS doesn't know'
- In "The Beast Below", the Doctor is unintentionally (noone knew who the Doctor was, therefore had no need to provoke him) angered to the point of willingly killing an innocent creature (tbh, this episode could do with some expansion on the theory)
- In "Victory of the Daleks", the Doctor is successfully and definitely intentionally provoked by the Daleks until he angrily states 'I am the Doctor, and you are the Daleks!', triggering the progenitor device.
- In "The Time of Angels", it is explicitly stated that the Angels are attempting to provoke the Doctor to make him angry, though it doesn't work.
- However, since he was in his first twenty-four-hours of regeneration, any damage done to him would have healed.
Also know as danger fetishist. So far, in the two situations where she has been terrified and very nearly killed (Vampires of Venice and Flesh & Stone) she has responded by enthusiastically getting off with the nearest bloke. I can't be the only one thinking this.
- Because if he was only after the Doctor, he wouldn't have spent so much time and energy messing with Amy's head. Rory was really the only one who had so little dark in him that the best the Dream Lord could get out of him was Englands dullest village.
- As the Dream Lord kept saying, it was all Amy's choice, he just taunted the Doctor to distract him from that fact.
- The Beast Below: We asked for signs, the signs were sent: the birth betrayed, the marriage spent. Yeah the widowhood of every government — signs for all to see.
- Victory of the Daleks: Ah the wars they will be fought again (Both WWII and the Time War).
- The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone: While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
- The Vampires of Venice: But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud and they're going to hear from me.
- Amy's Choice: The birds they sang at the break of day. "Start again," I heard them say. Don't dwell on what has passed away or what is yet to be.
- Arc: Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in.
- Also the theme - "there is no drum" (The theme song is missing the old backbeat)
- Technically confirmed. Well, it's the absence of the 2020 Rory that's important.
The Lady of the Lake, learned magic from Merlin, who then lusted after her, and eventually she used her magic to entomb Merlin in a tree or under a Stone. Merlin did not try to counter this. River, has a water themed name, likely learned about sonic screwdrivers and TARDIS piloting from the Doctor, and killed a very good man who was hero to many. As for lusted after, they do seem to have some sort of romantic relationship, what with they're very romantic dates to singing towers and picnics at Asgard.
The Pandorica is rumored to be, confirmed actually if you can trust the Doctor Who Wiki, Stonehenge. It is also mentioned on the wiki to be some type of prison (imprisoned under a stone get it). Rory is rumored to have been rewritten in time as a Roman Centurion. King Arthur is argued by some historians to have been a Celtic King who fought the Romans.
Now Merlin is said to have taken joy in deaths and final goodbyes because he lived backwards in time, so they were like first meetings for normal people. The Doctor first met River from his perspective when she died. Merlin also found first meetings and births tragic for similar reasons, so if River's first meeting of the Doctor from her perspective is the Pandorica, and she kills "the best man she ever knew" and there is sorrow in the first meeting.
Alternatives involve Pond as the Lady of the Lake.
- Wasn't it Nimue/Vivian that Merlin taught magic to, not the Lady of the Lake?
- I get my knowledge of Arthurian myth from The Other Wiki but it claims that the characters were conflated in some sources.
- King Arthur, if he ever existed, came after the Roman occupation had ended, and fought against the Saxon invaders; that's as old as the story can possibly be stretched, certainly not to the Roman times.
- Depending on how much we can take from the original run, it was already established that the Doctor was Merlin — or an alternate-dimension version of the Doctor was. That storyline was a bit confusing.
But look at what evidence he'd got. As far as the Doctor knows the Angels have a habit of turning into stones when the only witness around is not looking. Not exactly familiar with the Fourth Wall and the thousands of tropers behind it, he jumps to the best conclusion at hand. Sensible enough?
Just wait for the next time the stakes rest on his educated guess.note
- Support: In "Amy's Choice," Amy questions The Doctor on whether cold burning suns could actually exists. He's particularly flustered at the time and snaps at her: " I don't know! Why do people always think I know these things!?"
- Who says that Ten was right? As far as we can tell, everything he knows about the Angels in Blink he learned from a Stable Time Loop. There's no good reason that any non-essential knowledge Ontological Paradoxed into existence need be correct.
Looking over the episodes of this season, I've been noticing a few trends.
- Growing up/Evolving/Change- Amy grows up, Liz 10 doesn't, and the dream pensioner's aging rates are slowed down. The Dalek are reborn, the Angels are restored, the Saturnynes change humans into themselves. The Silurians stay exactly the same due to their hibernation. The emergancy hologram changes forms to suit it's needs. And, of course, Regeneration.
- Disguises/Masquerades- Prisoner Zero's disguises, the star whale deception, the Daleks pretending to be servants, the Angel pretending to be dormant. Vampires pretending to be aristocrats, two dream worlds, the hidden Silurians, the invisible Krafayis, the emergancy hologram and the second floor. Not to mention the Pandorica.
- Senses- The Doctor adjusting to new taste buds, his HD memory, Amy's "Notice Everything" moment, Amy being blinded, and having to feel her way through the forest, the vampires tasting they're victims blood, The Doctor feeling the oddity of the ground near the drilling project, etc.
- Bringing about your own end- Prisoner Zeros connection with Amy, the Star Whale's charity causing it to suffer, Bracewell's attempted suicide, the Angels feeding on the Ship's energy, Rosanna sending the girls after the doctor and commiting suicide, Amy and the Doctor's suicides, Rory's sacrifice, the emergancy hologram's desire for a pilot, and, of course, Vincent...
- All of these themes may be united by the following over-arching message: The world is filled with scary things, many of which are inside yourself. Ignoring the monsters (on the inside especially) does not make the monsters go away. It simply makes the problem worse. The Angels can kill you, but the Cracks can erase your existence. Addressing an issue and facing the consequences is better than avoiding the issue and letting it grow like a cancer.
- This actually seems pretty possible, considering Amelia appears to be in a museum of some sorts with the Pandorica. Although we don't know where or when this museum is. What came to mind wasRiver: Two things always garunteed to show up in a museum, the homebox of a category 4 starliner, and sooner or later, [the Doctor].
- andRosanna: You should be in a museum!.
- Though they're most likely not realted to the Pandorica at all, it might be a bit of foreshadowing.
- Semi-Confirmed. Young Amelia rescued her future self from the Pandorica instead.
- Semi-Confirmed with extra mind-screwy goodness. He does use the Manipulator, but the Shadowy figure and Jacket!Doctor was his timeline being rewound due to his Heroic Sacrifice.
- And he's gonna say it again in the next series. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
- Could also be the voice of Prisoner Zero or some other chaos-focused villain. Perhaps the voice is meant to sound like a combination of chaos-focused villains seen previously in Series 5. Or perhaps it is the voice of the TARDIS. She may not be a villain, but she certainly seems chaos-focused.
- Prisoner number one was briefly contained in the Pandorica.
- Was Prisoner One the Eleventh Doctor?
- And Prisoner Two will be the Valeyard.
- Was Prisoner One the Eleventh Doctor?
- The fact he is numbered "Zero" that blows my mind in a Schrodinger kind of way
- The TARDIS could have also been shielding Earth from the destruction of the Universe. The Doctor says the Earth was at the eye of the storm, but it could have just as well been that the Tardis knew the Doctor was on Earth and it's last act was not to protect humanity but to protect the Doctor.
- The TARDIS may have deliberately attempted to protect Earth because she knows that the protection of Earth is required for the Doctor to stay sane (or about as sane as the Doctor is supposed to be). When the TARDIS explodes, she deliberately protects all of the Companions and Allies of Eleven that remain in existence (assuming they were not all swallowed by Time Cracks) because she knows that the continued existence of these humans and humans in general are a psychological need of Eleven. The existence of most (if not all) of Eleven's Companions and Allies are tied to Eleven's deepest need. The TARDIS may be a Kinky Sex Machine Matchmaker.
- I suppose. And that has to do with the Pandorica how exactly?
- Word of God states that the Pandorica Cybermen were in fact from Mondas. They have the Cybus logo on their chest because low budgets meant that they couldn't make new suits.
- ...damn, that actually makes sense!
- The Twelfth Doctor may be devious and deliberate, but the Eleventh Doctor seems to do things by accident. I think it is more likely that the TARDIS performed an Inception on Amy.
- There is no Twelfth Doctor. Matt's signed on until at least series 7.
One year is the amount of time it takes a planet to orbit its Sun Once. So a year on one planet is highly unlikely to be exactly the same length as a year on another planet.
Given that, there's a fair possibility that once Gallifrey was no more, The Doctor - who has always been more at home on Earth anyway - began using the Earth calendar to keep measurement of his age. So presuming that Gallifrey has shorter years than Earth, he could easily have been 953 years old in Gallifreyan Years during "Time and The Rani" and then later have been just over 907 years old in Earth Years in "Flesh and Stone".
- Alternatively, maybe he used Earth years to start with (he was rebelling against Gallifrey and it's laws for a fair bit during the Classic series, wasn't he?) and because Gallifrey got destroyed, he decided to remember his planet through little things- like using the Gallifreyan calendar. This would work if Gallifreyan years were longer than Earth years.
- On a related note, how exactly is a year calculated on a planet with two suns?
- Depends on the type of Binary System - Most have a primary that has a secondary orbiting it like a planet, thus if the planet is orbiting the primary, then it is following the orbit of the primary. If it is orbiting the secondary, it still would follow the orbit of the primary, as well. Now, if the primary and secondary are orbiting in the center, and the planets are orbiting around both, it is probably a work of astronomy to determine the exact time one full rotation would be, as these masses would not make for stable orbits...
- On a related note, how exactly is a year calculated on a planet with two suns?
- So does this mean the Doctor considers Amy to be family?
- Well, he is her imaginary friend...
- and her son-in-law.
- The Doctor's known Amy since she was little, which actually gives her an understandable reason to feel a connection to the Doctor beyond "Hot Guy With The Ultimate Sports Car." Additionally, everyone who doesn't realize the Doctor actually exists treats this attitude as an obsession bordering on genuine insanity, a reaction strikingly absent from Rose's unsettlingly arrogant clinginess.
- Probably not, given that Moffat seems to like Rose a lot, some "clingy" jokes aside.
- The "Cracks in Time" Myth Arc has the rather convenient side effect of completely erasing the fannish silliness that was The Stolen Earth/Journey's End and the historically incompatible ending to The Next Doctor.
- Not only are the old-style Daleks killed off — violently — the new ones promptly run away and are only seen sparingly afterward, in contrast to Davies' overuse of them.
- That's...not what happened. At best, that's a white lie. "Running away" sounds like a loss.
- Shipping is punted out the window and then shot at, with lasers. The Doctor reacts with abject horror to Amy's come-ons (which, on her part, are pretty poorly thought out), doesn't appreciate Amy's fangirlish insistence that he and River will eventually get married, and generally takes any chance he can get to tactfully imply that this incarnation doesn't find Interspecies Romance appealing in the slightest. He does enjoy flirting with The TARDIS, though.
- It was more blatant in series 6, but River was hardly subtle in her implications either. Not to mention, when Amy asked River if it was the Doctor, she responded ambiguously, but hinted towards the postiive.
- Then there's A Christmas Carol, in which, as though waking up in the middle of a terrible fanfiction, the Doctor finds himself suddenly and inexplicably paired up with Marilyn Monroe. He does his best to escape the situation as quickly as possible.
- And then he apparently marries her out of spite when his companions weren't paying enough attention.
- What has that got to do with Russell? Even tangentially? Or the production series 5? It's not even the A-plot either.
- The finale, which first parodies Davies' writing style by having the Doctor fight everyone, ever, then deconstructs it by summarily forgetting about them and centering the actual antagonistic tension around exactly one Dalek and confining everything to a couple rooms in one building, while a Negative Space Wedgie makes even the setting increasingly minimalist. The lesson being, "Epic" doesn't have to mean "Big".
- PARODY? WTF? It's clearly playing the "gather all enemies against the Doctor" completely straight. The only thing it really deconstructs is how the Doctor isn't especially a hero to everyone.
- He first tried apples, because Ten liked them. But that wasn't right. Then he tried yogurt and bacon, and after that, beans, before setteling on custard and fish fingers. Consider this: both yogurt and custard are diary products, and both bacon and fish fingers are meat (or, at least, dead animal) fried in butter or oil. (I don't know what Amy used.) I don't know if this is important, but it is interesting that eleven knew in wich direction he had to search. I can't explain the beans in tomato sauce, though.
...but not quite the same as he first appeared in Amy's Choice.
The self-titled "Dream Lord" is nothing more than the Doctor's darker side. Meaning he's still around. So if another psychic dream-state is initiated (possibly in the same way, if under different circumstances), the Dream Lord will come back to wreak havoc.
I now postulate that because the Dream Lord is essentially the Doctor, then the Dream Lord is also capable of regeneration like the Doctor is. Unlike the Doctor, who regenerates in order to escape death, the Dream Lord isn't so fragile. But it only makes sense that if the Doctor regenerates, then the Dream Lord regenerates with him.
Alternatively, he's been defeated once so far, in his first appearance. It's likely that each "defeat" results in the Dream Lord's "death" and regeneration. Also, notice that the Dream Lord is middle-aged or older, not too unlike the first Doctor when we first saw him. So the Dream Lord will regenerate, and he will show up a la The Nth Doctor, and he will most likely be younger. (Although, since he's the Doctor's opposite, it's not unreasonable if he ends up older.)
Bottom line, it may or may not be in the upcoming season, or it may be later on. But mark these words: the Dream Lord will return, some day, and he will have regenerated. He's not done holding up the mirror to the Doctor just yet.
- Wasn't it a hologram? Which is basically a screen projector without the screen, a physical being couldn't disrupt it through touch.
- Not so much a wild-mass guess, as a logical assumption based on the information provided. Both are described as manifestations of the Doctor's dark side- the psychic coral merely acted as a conduit for the Valeyard to manifest himself prematurely from the stated point where the Doctor is meant to regenerate into him (between the 12th and 13th Doctor's- whom the 11th Doctor isn't that far off from). Notice how in The Ultimate Foe, the Valeyard manifests as a dark-haired and darkly-clothed man in contrast to the blonde, garishly dressed 6th Doctor, whereas in Amy's Choice he takes the form of a short, plump and plain man, in contrast to the 11th Doctor's tall, dark and handsome appearance, which he makes numerous mocking references to in the episode, amid his standard taunts.
- I think it's more that the Dream-Lord is a manifestation of what becomes the Valeyard: not so much good-versus-evil, as a gradual degradation. Taking into account the events of "The Waters of Mars" — or even going back to "School Reunion" — it seems to me this has been a long time coming.
- Imperial Daleks are made from humans, if I recall correctly. Since Nu Who Daleks are aligned with Davros, we can assume Time-War era Daleks are descended from Imperial Daleks.
- The Dalek seen in "Dalek" is a time-war era Dalek. The Daleks with the Emperor in Bad Wolf are made from human DNA. The Emperor is a time-war era Dalek, and so was the Cult of Skaro.
- New Dalek Empire, as seen in in Stolen Earth are made from Davros' cells.
Thus, none were true Daleks.
- This is supported by the fact that they seem to have a colour-based hierarchy and possibly specialities, like the originals always did.
- Also the civil war from "The Evil of the Daleks" came from the first time the Daleks decided to deviate from the norm (the Human Factor).