- The 80's weren't much more moral than nowadays. There were even more racism, there were bullies at schools, there were wars, and the air was so polluted that it was needed so much eco-awareness in the 90's. If Cobra Kai has a message, it's that hard work may do the job. That a good guy can become a jerkass, and a jerkass still can become a good guy. And while is life, there's hope, and there's a way.
- Plus, saying that he was "willing to let some kid get murdered by three thugs" seems a grossly unfair indictment of Daniel and doesn't make a lot of sense in any context we're shown, since he wasn't around to help Miguel either time and couldn't interfere with the ref's job at the tournament. One good takeaway is that while many things have improved since the 80's, things have regressed in some ways too, and it's foolish to think that older generations have nothing of value to teach just because of the stuff they did get wrong. Johnny's mindset is a little dated, yeah, but only to a point; what he is right about is that you should stand up for yourself, take control of your life, and not sit on your ass hoping someone else will come along and fix everything for you. His own life starts to change for the better the moment he realizes this and chooses to act on it.
- Or the commentary is about how grudges that aren't let go are passed on to the next generations. With the original film, we see that Johnny was, indeed an asshole and bully who not only pushed Daniel, but refused to leave his ex-girlfriend alone when she told him that she didn't want to talk with him ever again, pretty much molested her in front of Daniel to make him jealous, and twice tried to kill Daniel (once by driving him off the road and the other by chasing him down and nearly beating him to death over a harmless, albeit stupid, prank). At the start Johnny believed his high school life and his time with Cobra-Kai was the greatest moment of his life and looking at it through Rose-Tinted Glasses, believing Daniel to be the villain of the story. Since we got a good view of the story from the first film, we know Daniel believes himself to be the hero (seeing that we followed him for three full films). There are moments where we've seen both of them appear actually kind to each other and even enjoyed having a beer/dinner with one another, only for something to set them both back at being at each other's throats. Cobra-Kai and Miyagi-Do both get resurrected as a result of this unrelenting grudge between them. And as a result, it's passed on to the kids of both dojos. It's no wonder there was a full-on brawl at the end of Season 2, mostly because both Daniel and Johnny can't let go of what they've done to each other and forgive one another for their actions.
- Except MMA fighters have to be 18.
- In UFC and major promotions, yes. But what about Shooto
?
- Jossed. No mention whatsoever of MMA in Season 2.
- Robby's change was less a result of the karate lessons, and more of a result of having someone take an interest in him. Daniel, Johnny, and Miguel may have lacked a father figure, but Robby lacked any adult authority figure whatsoever. His change is therefore believable. I don't think this will work with Kyler, not to mention the fact that the Larussos hate him. In fact, I think if he joins anyone, it will be Kreese.
- Kyler will join the dojo out of spite. Daniel (and Sam) will be unhappy about it, but Robby (and maybe Amanda) will encourage them to give Kyler a shot. Kyler will begin to become a better person over the season, but will throw it all away at a shot for revenge, and become Daniel's greatest failure.
- Kyler is persona non grata at the Larusso household for obvious reasons. There's no way Daniel would ever accept him as a student, especially considering what he did to Sam. I don't see him going to Cobra Kai either since both Johnny and Miguel already whooped him good. If he joins a dojo, it will be a third one we have yet to know about.
- Kyler's attempt to join the dojo will be what finally prompts Sam to tell what he did to her. Daniel will beat the crap of him and Tom Cole will use it against him.
- Seems to be Jossed as of the "2 Dojos One Fight" trailer. Kyler is nowhere to be seen in the group of students at Miyagi-do, although it appears Demetri has joined.
- Kyler does not appear in Season 2 at all, as it's set outside of school.
- Kyler is confirmed to return for Season 3 - this lends itself to the possibility that he will join (Kreese's) Cobra Kai.
- Kyler is seen in the trailer watching a Cobra Kai practice from behind the members.
- Kyler indeed joins Cobra Kai in Season 3 and remains within it.
- Daniel will point out it's no reason not to have him teach her.
- Jossed: If the trailer is any indication, she's definitely training under Miyagi-Do with Daniel in season 2 at some point.
- Jossed. Sam stays with Miyagi-do. At least until the end of season , when Miyagi-do closes down its dojo.
- As of the end of Season 3 she is still within the dojo Whether it's Miyagi-Do or a new name for the Merged Dojo however...remains to be seen
- According to Karate Kid Wikia, Chozen committed ritual suicide off camera following his disgrace. He shouldn't be back. He also has no connection to Cobra Kai so there is no need for him to return.
- Whatever is or was once written there cannot be taken at face value. He still could have left Okinawa in shame and he might move to California to go after Daniel.
- Jossed. As of the end of season 2, no mention of Chozen.
- Chozen returns in Season 3 according to the trailer, and there is a promotional image of him holding Daniel for a killing blow the same way Daniel did after their first fight. The context is unknown.
- Chozen does return in Season 3. He was called by Kumiko to bury the hatchet with Daniel and despite some cold stares and awkwardness is able to do so. It's also implied that his demeanor at the start of those episodes was him just trolling Daniel.
- Or Chosen is already doing it and Kyler is only feigning ignorance regarding his roots.
- Neither Kyler nor Chozen are mentioned in season 2.
- Both Chozen and Kyler are in Season 3 but Chozen outright states he never really left Okinawa after the events of his film so unless Kyler mentions being an orphan it's very unlikely they have any ties.
- Furthermore, as Robby stated, each of them has something that can be of value to the other dojo. The offense-oriented Cobra Kai kids will learn the value of a defense, while the defense-oriented Miyagi-do kids will come to understand exactly how and why Cobra Kai was regarded as Johnny's buddies indicated. As the sequels of the Karate Kid franchise showed all too well, pacifism is going to get them only so far.
- Jossed for Season 2, but both dojos are in a shambles as of the ending. Could still happen.
- Seemingly confirmed in the Season 3 trailer.
- Outright confirmed at the end of Season 3. They merge their dojos.
- Also as a publicity stunt for the sequel to the 2010 film.
- And further films of the rebooted franchise, as has been rumoured.
- Chan would count as a Celebrity Paradox, since Robby mentions him by name.
- maybe cameos by Ed O'Neill and Keanu Reeves, both 80s icons and legitimately skilled martial artists
- In interviews, the creators have mentioned there won't be a tournament in Season 2, to avoid repetition. Perhaps for Season 3.
- Season 3 also doesn't have the All Valley but it's implied it will take place in Season 4. However with Sam and Miguel now residing in the same dojo it's incredibly unlikely they would face off anyway.
- This fits Daniel's talk of balance as learned from Mr. Miyagi. Cobra Kai and Miyagi-Do as a sort of Yin-Yang Bomb (They're both even represented by black and white) to defeat a greater evil.
- Seemingly confirmed in the Season 3 trailer.
- Outright confirmed at the end of Season 3. They merge dojos.
- Then he'd realize that "Rattlesnake Kai" sounds really goofy, and change it back. Besides, real cobras do give a warning before they strike; that's why they rear up and present the "hood" around their head. Ultimately Jossed, though, since Johnny ends up picking the much, much goofier-sounding "Eagle Fang" as the name for his new dojo in Season 3.
- Or worse, he is Kreese.
- Miguel will think Robby was trying to steal his mentor/father figure.
- Miguel does find out Robby is Johnny's son, and believes it's Johnny's motivation for trying to get them to show mercy, but Johnny tells him Robby has nothing to do with Cobra Kai.
- Confirmed, sort of. Miguel finds a photo of Robby on Johnny's fridge, and assume this is why Johnny was so upset he and Hawk handed Robby his ass in the tournament. Johnny was upset that they were fighting dirty, but they can't really internalize that at that point.
- If that happens, he'll make Daniel a better teacher. Demetri is the kind of kid that needs to know the why behind a lesson or he'll walk away; there's nothing intrinsic to Miyagi-Do that prevents telling the student why up front.
- Considering how he stated in the Season Finale that he's hanging with the Cobra Kai students for the safety in numbers, it's unlikely to happen unless Kreese drives him away.
- This seems more likely as of the "Two Dojos, One Fight" trailer for Season 2, where he is seen hanging around with Robby and some of the new Miyagi-Do recruits.
- Confirmed, as of "Two Dojos, One Fight." There's a "blink and you'll miss it" moment, but Demetri is clearly in one of the shots of the full group during training. We also see that Demetri and Hawk get into a fight, but it's not clear if Demetri trains before or after this moment.
- Demetri does indeed fully join Miyagi-Do after Kreese punches him in the face, and he does fight Hawk and wins!
- Watch Cobra Kai get into trouble, one way or the other, for it.
- Confirmed somewhat indirectly in Season 3. Johnny drunkenly gets into a fight in the first episode and gets thrown in prison for it (again). That, alongside his ruined PR from the School Fight and previous incidents, made it so it's impossible for him to get any work in the Valley.
- Or, alternately, he'll learn Miyagi-Do karate under his dad's tutelage. Either way, here's hoping they do something interesting with him in Season 2; it's hard to think that they would create a character who is part of Daniel's direct bloodline, but who remained completely superfluous to the story.
- This seems more likely. We see that, all his other quirks aside, he thinks the world of his father's martial arts skills ("my dad could beat your dad" is his go to claim) and we've already done the "I'm training my rival's son" angle with Robby.
- An Important Haircut may be in the works. He might only consider it traumatic in that the alternate route is even more frightening.
- He'll only try Cobra Kai after growing tired of Daniel not explaining the method behind his training. Johnny won't accept him until he explains it so Johnny won't think it's for the same kind of spite that drove Robby into Daniel.
- Jossed, at least as of Season 2, where he ships off to summer camp. There could be something in store with Anthony in the future, though, as what little we see of him shows that he has lost a substantial amount of weight since Season 1.
- Jossed once again in Season 3. He shows up in like two scenes (though with the massive weight loss mentioned above, good for the actor!) and is a non-factor. If anything this troper figures that the writers regret creating the character since they do their best to avoid using him at every turn.
- With Miyagi-do and Eagle Fang coming together at the end of Season 3, maybe Anthony will finally take up karate (and finally have plot relevance), but will prefer Johnny as his sensei than his dad. Daniel will be surprisingly okay with this, since Anthony is still getting into karate anyway and since he did teach Johnny's son. Also, Johnny may be the more effective sensei for him as his heavy-handed, assertive approach may be better suited to handle Anthony's bratty behavior.
- Jossed as of Season 2. Yasmine is spending her summer in France.
- However confirmed as of Season 3! How significant their relationship will be is yet to be seen but they are caught making out and Demetri says he's in love (while Yasmine brushes it off because...hey, she has a rep to uphold!)
- Johnny will discover Facebook!
- Confirmed. The Facebook part. He never heard of it before Daniel mentioned Ali's profile.
- Confirmed on both counts, but only in passing. Johnny drunk texts Ali and the last shot is of Johnny's phone with a friend-request from Ali, on Facebook.
- Jossed on them meeting at a funeral of any type. Confirmed that they do cross paths again.
- Actor Martin Kove himself isn't yet sure what direction his character will be taken in, but he's been told that some "surprises" are in store.
- Confirmed, from what we see in the teaser trailers and the "2 Dojos One Fight" trailer. Kreese starts his reign of terror by throwing Johnny and smashing the dojo's mirror. Then he continues his poisonous and brutal teachings, to the point where Sam complains it's like "a karate cult."
- Also provides a Bait-and-Switch which allows him to manipulate Johnny. He seems quite human for one scene, then doubles down on his villainy.
- Though talk about his story arc in Season 3 indicates that there's going to be a flashback to his war days, thus offering insight into what shaped his path to villainy.
- Yep, we do get a bunch of flashbacks to his time in Nam which show the potential reasons he became how he is...and what started his friendship with Terry Silver.
- Not for Sid, but there is a death in Season 2—Tommy's.
- Jossed. Not only does he stick with Cobra Kai, he's finally evenly matched with another small, bespectacled Miyagi-do student!
- Confirmed in Season 3. Kreese kicks him out for refusing to feed a mouse to a snake, he joins Johnny's new dojo Eagle Fang which eventually merges with Miyagi-Do
- Just like it was eventually mentioned that Apollo won, Johnny will be revealed to be the winner.
- We see in "2 Dojos One Fight" that they do have a re-match, including a shot of Johnny kicking Daniel in the face, but it's not clear why or who wins.
- The reason is Daniel was pissed that Johnny was sheltering Sam without his knowledge, and no winner as Sam stops the fight before it escalates too far.
- Seems to be confirmed as of the trailer "2 Dojos One Fight." New character Tory is a champion, and she and Sam seem to have at least two fights, one in a mall and the other at school.
- Just like when Miguel fought Robby, he'll let his emotions get the better of him and Sam will have a chance.
- She does fight Tory, and she wins, mainly because Tory was too busy going for the pain rather than simply finishing the fight. However, Sam is hospitalized, and it is unclear if she will regain use of one of her arms.
- Although, realistically, she wouldn't remain overweight for very long if she kept up with her training. That kind of physical activity on a regular basis, especially at her age, tends to speed up the metabolism quite a bit. She even appears to have slimmed down a little bit between the beginning and end of Season 1.
- Jossed. She is somewhat slimmer and much more confident, so she doesn't need to make fun of herself.
- Jossed as of season 2. Kyler does not appear.
- Jossed as of Season 3. Kyler does appear and...well he's no more deep as a character than last time other than a throwaway line on the pressure he's facing at home.
- If all else fails? Make a Deal with the Devil (Kreese), thus setting the stage for Serial Escalation and potentially forcing the school board to address the problem that was at the heart of Cobra Kai's reincarnation. The painful way.
- A three-way feud between Miyagi-Do, the new Cobra Kai, and an even darker, nastier offshoot run by Kreese would be awesome.
- Kinda-sorta confirmed, for now, in that Daniel and Johnny merge their respective dojos together at the end of Season 3 to take on Kreese's corrupted version of Cobra Kai.
- It does seem that Kreese will be taking on some students without Johnny present.
- As far as Yasmine is concerned, nothing has been hinted at her taking an interest in martial arts, but that painful wedge of Humble Pie she had to eat back in Season 1 led to her becoming a little kinder and more empathetic towards those she used to pick on.
- One of them will say "Yes". (Which probably won't surprise her anymore, if the talk between Sam and Aisha about that viral video of the wedgie means anything.)
- While he's serving time, he's being embezzled of whatever money wasn't seized by the Government.
- Potentially Jossed. Silver is shown and mentioned multiple times in flashback and Kreese seems to be making a call to him at the end of Season 3.
- No way! Places that sell alcohol are tested by regulators all the time. They want to make sure cashiers check the id of anyone who looks under 30. If they mess up, they risk a fine and losing their liquor license. He would risk losing more than gaining.
- Tough to say. He may have honestly thought Kreese was dead (he faked his death back in '85 with Terry Silver's help) or he could have meant Kreese was dead figuratively ("Kreese is dead to me."). It can't be a literal ghost since this show is not about the supernatural. At most, it could be the modern equivalent of a pink elephant since Johnny was drinking and feared Kreese's legacy overshadowing his.
- Jossed. The full Season 2 Trailer has Johnny move to attack Kreese and get kicked into a wall mirror for his trouble. It's him, all right.
- According to the producers, Daniel does know of Julie's existence. They met at Miyagi's funeral. How close they are is another question.
- Confirmed for Season 2, as she's in France for the summer. But we only get one day of school, and don't even make it to lunch hour, so there's no telling if she'll re-appear in Season 3. Her story arc does seem finished.
- Jossed, she returns in Season 3 since...you know, school restarts. And she appears to be starting on a new arc, now that she's learned some humility.
- Alternatively, Daniel could assume that Johnny was also tricked into thinking Kreese was dead, as he knows that Kreese isn't above manipulating or assaulting his own students.
- Seems Confirmed, as of the "Which Cobra Do You Want to Be" and "2 Dojos One Fight" promo clips. The first episode appears to take place right after the tournament, with the fallout from what happened.
- Zig-Zagged. Shannon abandons Robby in the first episode, and he moves in with the Larusso family.
- Jossed. Daniel and Amanda started their first dealership when Amanda was pregnant with Sam.
- Terry does have the sleazy personality and wealth to impress an eighteen year old Carmen, who was implied to have been a boy-crazy teenager. Plus Carmen told Johnny that as part of being "an very bad man" his job was hinted to be shady and dangerous, which defitionately matches Terry's being an CEO of an corrupt company. In the film he appeared in, Terry was skilled in pretending to be an humble good man until his true colors was revealed, which is how an naive Carmen would had fallen easily and made her took a while to find out the truth. Miguel's family had to move a lot to avoid getting tracked down by his father and that sounds like something Terry defitionately has the resources and rage to do so. The reason why Carmen was so overprotective of Miguel from violence might have been realizing he inherited some traits from his father. Miguel finding out his father was an enemy of Daniel and friend of Kreese would certainly make him fall in an [1]
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- Terry does have the sleazy personality and wealth to impress an eighteen year old Carmen, who was implied to have been a boy-crazy teenager. Plus Carmen told Johnny that as part of being "an very bad man" his job was hinted to be shady and dangerous, which defitionately matches Terry's being an CEO of an corrupt company. In the film he appeared in, Terry was skilled in pretending to be an humble good man until his true colors was revealed, which is how an naive Carmen would had fallen easily and made her took a while to find out the truth. Miguel's family had to move a lot to avoid getting tracked down by his father and that sounds like something Terry defitionately has the resources and rage to do so. The reason why Carmen was so overprotective of Miguel from violence might have been realizing he inherited some traits from his father. Miguel finding out his father was an enemy of Daniel and friend of Kreese would certainly make him fall in an [1]
- No mention of the board is made in Season 2. If it's anything like any other event board, they only meet once a year for a General Meeting. Otherwise the Board is mostly a governing body and the real work is done at the administrative and volunteer levels.
- As of Season 3, Daniel appears to be involved with the board in some way, as one member tells him about the fate of the tournament but it's unclear. He sits in the audience while the board hears Miguel and Sam's speeches.
- Neither confirmed nor Jossed but I'm pretty sure Tory was using a Krav Maga move at one point.
- Since the synopsis for the 2010 namesake film indicates very little use of karate itself, kung fu can be expected to enter the mix as well.
- OP of this WMG, just found this deleted scene
where Johnny antagonizes a local BJJ gym and talks down it and TKD, so sorta confirmed.
- Unconfirmed, but unlikely, as Johnny wasn't around when Robby was born so Shannon named him on her own. We do find out that Robby's middle name is Swayze.
- Confirmed, but not at all in the way it's described here. Bobby is now a pastor and their "Get him a body bag!" other friend Tommy is dying of cancer. The guys take him on a last road trip.
- Confirmed, sort of, but not in the way it's described here. In the "2 Dojos One fight" trailer, we see Robby being held at knife point and threatened by one of his former friends.
- Confirmed in season 2. Not only does Robby get into trouble with Trey and Cruz, he is also ejected from the LaRusso's country club, where they remember him as a petty thief and trouble maker. Luckily for Robby, Daniel and Amanda intervene to protect him from both.
- As of the Season 3 trailer, Robby is in juvie, presumably as a result of the school fight.
- Zig-Zagged, as Kreese takes control of the dojo due to a bad "handshake deal" Johnny made with Sarkizian, but they don't fight.
The final fight of Season 3 will be Johnny vs. Daniel, as they settle their rivalry once and for all.
- Outright jossed here. While the two argue on and off as per usual, outside of an extremely small scrap they don't fight at all. Instead the final fights of Season 3 are Cobra Kai vs Miyagi-Do/Eagle Fang at Daniel's house, and then Johnny vs Kreese and Daniel vs Kreese.
- Jossed, at least by the trailer. He's painted the Challenger and the gearshift has a cool new cobra handle.
- How does Johnny painting his car mean that this theory is Jossed?
- Sorry, misread that as the car Johnny received from Daniel. As it turns out, this is somewhat confirmed. Hawk vandalizes Miyagi-do dojo, including the "Banana Boat," as Sam nicknames the car.
- Kinda confirmed? He's essentially the de facto leader due to the above and Miguel is in a coma at the moment. Hawk would likely still defer to Miguel otherwise.
- Confirmed for Season 3. Hawk is definitely the de facto leader. Miguel leaves Cobra Kai outright so it's not in question...but then Hawk himself leaves Cobra Kai. Chances are it'll be Robby or Tory as the new leaders of Cobra Kai as we go into Season 4.
- Jossed. DID NOT see that ending coming!
Daniel in the second movie says Ali broke up with him at prom after telling him she fell in love with UCLA football player. She did this after borrowing his car, busting up the fender and messing up the engine. Also, Daniel thought they were going to have sex after prom. This breakup seems rather out of character of Ali.
- Confirmed. Ali sets the story straight herself in Season 3, or at least provides her side to it but no it's nowhere near as cut and dry as Daniel made it seem.
- Tory: 'Tory', with a 'y'.
- Unlikely, as Tory's last name appears to be Nichols. It also doesn't make sense that a woman from a rich family who later became and married a doctor, would have to wait tables and eat leftovers from the restaurant. Unless they lost it all in a Ponzi scheme or something, Ali's wealthy parents also probably wouldn't let their granddaughter work in a roller rink to pay for karate lessons.
- One of the writers explicitly
Jossed this theory.
- Note that Hilary Swank 's Wikipedia page has an entry for the actress to appear in a cameo, TBA, for Cobra Kai. She may not have a big role, but it's safe to say she'll appear at least briefly.
- She will appear at the end of an episode, in the shadows behind Daniel, and will close out the episode by saying "Wow, Daniel-San... you suck."
- Confirmed very quickly in Season 3. Though they blow up again afterwards because that is their nature but they do legitimately reconcile in the Season Finale...or at least tolerate each other enough to be willing to merge dojos to take down Kreese.
- Bonus points if season 3 starts at a bar with the two of them.Daniel: It came to this?Johnny: So What Do We Do Now?
- Somewhat Jossed. While the two do end up burying the hatchet the season doesn't really focus around it as their first attempt blows up. In fact the two don't share a ton of screen time at all for several episodes since Daniel is in Japan.
- With Miyagi-Do gone and with no real competitors left, Cobra Kai (now under Sensei Kreese's control) pretty much owns the Valley and its students rule the school's social hierarchy with an iron fist. In Miguel's absence, Hawk is now the dojo's star pupil.
- Meanwhile, the former Miyagi-Do students have been left to fend for themselves. Most of them are still sticking together, trying to protect each other, but with Daniel no longer around to teach them any more lessons and Cobra Kai getting more ferocious by the day under Kreese's guidance, it's only a matter of time until the cobras eventually become too much for the Miyagi Students to handle. Even worse, a few former Miyagi Students have returned to Cobra Kai out of fear and desperation.
- As for how Cobra Kai is getting away with all this? Using his natural charisma, Kreese convinces the school board and local papers that it was Miyagi-Do that started the brawl and that his Cobra Kai students were victims, guilty only of trying to defend themselves (which would be more likely than you think - in most of the Miyagi/Cobra duels, it was the Miyagi kids who emerged victorious, which would make it easier for the cobras to play the victim card). Thus, Miyagi-Do is the one who gets the Lion's Share of the blame from the school.
- It was Tory who wrestled the PA system away from an administrator to call Sam out for a fight. Public opinion on who's to blame may be a lot more divided. Or Kreese will try to spin it to his advantage, pinning the blame Johnny for making Cobra Kai so violent.
- Schools would have video surveillance installed post Columbine. The school in the Valley wouldn't be different. Not only does Tory's wrestling the PA system away from the administrator count as damning evidence, but the footage would have been reviewed to find out who is to blame as well. Tory and a couple of the other Cobra-Kai would be completely expelled (as one of them assaulted a teacher) from the school, while other members of Cobra-Kai would be suspended because they were the ones who threw the first punch and escalated the event. A couple of the Miyagi-Do students may be suspended, as most of them were shown not throwing the first punch in their fights and were reacting in defense. Robbie's fate is unsure, but seeing he was trying to stop the fight between Sam and Tory, that one of Cobra-Kai tried to attack him (which he deflected) and then Miguel attacked him, it could be seen strictly as self-defense that ended in a tragedy (so, it's hard to know if he will be let off the hook or not, but given his relation to Johnny, he may not be let back into school. And outside of that, Miguel's mom could file charges for assault against Robbie for nearly killing her son, even if Miguel did attack him first). Stingray would be permanently banned from coming back to the school and applying for work there after the Principal witnessed him selectively attacking students while letting those associated with Cobra-Kai to continue to attack (such as by passing by Hawk who had one of the Miyagi-Do students in a choke-hold). So, even if Kreese did try to convince the board that it was Miyagi-Do's fault, there'd be evidence that shows that it was members of Cobra-Kai that were the ones who started and escalated the fight that lead to one of the students being left in critical condition. If anything will happen, the school would permanently ban any karate-related activities and finally enforce a zero-tolerance rule for bullying (meaning that if anyone even lifted a finger towards another student would lead to a very heavy punishment).
- As a consequence of the above, La Russo Auto has fallen on hard times. Given how eager the company was to slap their name on Miyagi-Do, the brawl was a PR nightmare. Sales are down, one of their lots had to be shut down, and the La Russo Auto empire is slowly crumbling apart. In one episode, Kreese sends his cobras to vandalize one of Daniel's lots, just to add insult to injury.
- Robbie is completely MIA. Fearful of the consequences of almost killing Miguel, he took off after the brawl and nobody's seen him since. One can only wonder where he is now.
- Johnny Lawrence left the valley after the brawl, and is rumored to live alone in the woods. He used to be a handyman before he became a sensai, so we know he's good with tools. It's possible that he built his own cabin in the woods, complete with a pond in the back where he can relax - not unlike Mr. Miyagi's old dojo. He spends his days in self-imposed exile, believing that he is ultimately responsible for all the damage Cobra Kai's done and that he never should've brought it back to begin with.
- All of this is explained to Miguel by Aisha. She left Cobra Kai after the brawl, recognizing it was now doing more harm than good, especially with Kreese as sensei (it's worth noting that Aisha wasn't present during Kreese's secret night class when Johnny caught them).
With the Valley now under Cobra Kai's control and no one left to stand up to John Kreese, it now falls to Miguel to rally Johnny, Daniel, Robby, Sam and Aisha to figure out a way to take down Kreese once and for all.
Yasmine has Skype, right? If Moon has Skype, too, she's going to be telling her "bestie" about the big fight that decommissioned Miguel.
- The first episode's title appears to be "Aftermath."
- Nichole Brown has confirmed that Aisha won't be returning for Season 3, as they just couldn't "find a place" for her character. Maybe she'll be able to come back for Season 4 and beyond.
- The Season 3 official trailer has confirmed that Season 3 will start out on a dark note. Miguel is awake but in a hospital bed and requiring extensive therapy (though the extent of his injuries is unknow). Robby appears to be hiding out in the woods before he's arrested and thrown into juvie, where he is badly beaten. Kyler appears to have joined Cobra Kai, wherein Hawk has to confront his remaining feelings about being bullied. Demetri and Hawk's relationship remains broken. Sam and Tory appear to have a rematch, while Sam remains reluctant and scarred from the fight. Johnny looks much the worse for wear and spends some time in jail, too.
- Confirmed, it's a pretty downer beginning. Johnny gets into a drunken fight and is thrown in jail (this has consequences later). The School Fight has absolutely torched the Larussos' name to the ground to the point where the town all but hates them and their Auto Group is so bad off that they're getting a fraction of their customers (this also has consequences later). Miguel is still in his coma and only wakes up at the end of Episode 1. Sam has blatant PTSD of the School Fight. Robby is indeed on the run and is considered a fugitive. Tory was expelled and is working two jobs to provide for her family (while getting accosted by a slimy landlord propositioning her, a MINOR, for sex in order to avoid eviction). Hawk's rep is also completely in the toilet after getting punked by Demetri. Aisha was moved away completely. The only two people in the Valley to have any sort of benefit was Kreese (obviously) and Demetri who got a big PR upgrade.
- More or less confirmed. While the two do ultimately have other objectives they have to deal with (Johnny getting Miguel back on his feet and Daniel saving his business) they do have to come to terms with who they want to be as people and eventually (thanks to Ali) finding that common ground.
- Jossed: Season 3 picks up the same day season 2 left off.
- Incorrect actually. It picks up two weeks after Season 2 but still not a year afterwards.
- Jossed unless you count the Flashbacks...not that Kreese didn't try his best.
- This might even be showcased in a Whole Episode Flashback featuring Kreese.
- Kinda Jossed? His mindset was formed in Nam, but that had more to do with his captain and a failed mission (on top of his girlfriend dying) rather than being duped by the Viet Cong.
- The Cobra on the Dojo's logo may actually be meant to symbolize the Southeast Asian influence on Kreese's art. Cobras are not native to Japan or Korea but they are found in abundance in Thailand, Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia where they are also important cultural icons meant to invoke a number of ideas. Among other things the Cobra is heavily associated with longevity and rebirth in Southeast Asia, hence "Cobra Kai never dies".
- More likely than not Kreese and Terry Silver originally learned Tang Soo Do (Terry's mention of a Korean master is not a total fabrication) but heavily modified their techniques with what they learned on duty. Kreese kept the basic stance of Tang Soo Do rather than the more square stance of Muay Thai because he favors the explosive power and speed of the bladed stance over the the more defensively sound square stance, especially since few fighters outside of Southeast Asia were likely to throw low kicks at the time. Kreese named his new style Cobra Kai Karate both out of a nostalgic attachment to his original martial arts training and as a business move since people in the States were (and to some degree still are) much more familiar with Karate and thus more likely to pay for lessons.
- This is actually Truth in Television. A lot of Americans stationed in Korea who studied Tang Soo Do and Taekwondo referred to what they learned and taught under the moniker Korean Karate. Chuck Norris for instance was a Tang Soo Do practitioner who learned the art while stationed abroad, but called said art Karate for name value. That being said, most of the techniques being taught have equivalents in Tang Soo Do (which uses elbows and knees, although to nowhere near the same degree), there is virtually no use of the clinch, which for many trainers is viewed as the cornerstone of Muay Thai, and the scenes we see of the Cobras practicing their kicks, even on pads, show them using the snapping knee and targeting with the foot motion of Tang Soo Do vs. the heavy pivot and swing of the leg as seen in Muay Thai, which uses the shinbone as the impact point. So while its possible (and has historical precedent) the techniques borrowed seem to be fairly minimal.
- Actually partially confirmed. Kreese's captain (the one he learned his karate from) outright mentions that Tang Soo Do is going to be part of what he learns and it was taught by his own superior who learned during Korea.
- Jossed. While Hawk does because his de-facto leader at least until the Season Finale the two are never all that particularly close and Kreese goes out of his way to be a bit more "caring" towards Tory and Robby and even Johnny.
- Taking this a step further; what does Kreese hope to achieve by going national? It's clear he has (or at least had, back in the day) friends in high places like Terry Silver who could offer him riches and a lavish lifestyle, but he chooses to continue training students. Why? He doesn't just want his brand to go national; he wants his philosophy to. Like Johnny did at the start of the season, Kreese sees a world that has grown soft and coddling, and like any good Social Darwinist villain, wants to inject the fear of death back into the hearts of the weak. By taking Cobra Kai national, he can raise a strong but sociopathic generation of warriors and purge America of the weakness he sees around him, proving that Might Makes Right and life rewards the strong who take what they want. And he will be the grandfather of it all. It's not unlike a certain senator from a popular video game series who sought to reduce America into a survival-of-the-fittest petrie dish.
- The end of season 3 is certainly setting this up. Not only does Kreese overtly state he wants to 'melt the snowflake generation', but he's made a call to Terry Silver, implying he may in fact be reigniting his plan to go national if he can do well at the next All-Valley.
- Johnny may see this as a chance to finally make up and be with the girl he has long cherished - only for Ali to tell (remind) Johnny that she's married and have ''long'' since moved on from both him and Daniel.
- Daniel reconnects with Ali as well - mainly to rip for how she trashed his car on their prom night.
- Well the initial WMG is confirmed. Ali coming back is huge for both Daniel and Johnny as she essentially puts their feud to bed all on her own. However, outside of some mild ship-teasing (since Ali apparently got divorced sometime in the last year) Johnny never makes an actual play for her since he had started a relationship with Carmen. Daniel's interaction with her is also very polite though the whole "prom night car trashing" IS brought up.
- OK, Mrs. Larusso, what say you about all this?
- Obviously, Ali has to have a long talk with Amanda Larusso to convince her that Daniel and Johnny can settle their differences and karate can play a role in that. Sure, that's not going to be a easy sell for Amanda, but that's where the drama lies.
- Confirmed at the end of Season 3 (also Amanda doesn't need to be hard sold on the Karate part...Kreese did that just fine on his own).
- Realizing the unabated corruption of the new Cobra Kai under John Kreese, the few perspicacious-enough students will team-up with the remnant Miyagi-Do students to fight back against Kreese and to hopefully persuade Johnny and Daniel to keep teaching them karate, but this time together as one dojo.
- Aisha will hookup with Chris, both being the most "moderate" students of their respective dojos.
- The mess is clearly far from over. With nowhere else to go and another showdown being a certainty, the surviving students will see no choice but to take refuge at the house where Miyagi-do stood. In their own little way, they become a contemporary eastern martial arts Breakfast Club.
- ...this one actually ends up a bit complicated. The easy stuff, Aisha just outright moves away. But the rest of the CK students do remain. Initially. Then Kreese starts casting out some and they go to Johnny to start a new Dojo, Eagle Fang. Only for that dojo to eventually merge with Miyagi-Do anyway so...technically confirmed?
- Jossed, at least that we could see. It's possible Stingray went to court and that's where his probation came from. But otherwise only Robby faced actual punishment from the police and he was sent straight to Juvie (Tory avoided it thanks to her caregiver status at home).
- Jossed
- Jossed, though he does break his arm...before he performs a HeelFace Turn in the Season Finale and they're bros again.
- It will be a friendly rematch, and exhibition in a tournament before the (Unshown) Final Match. The families and friends will be cheering both of them and betting a dessert in a barbecue. After exchanging some punches and blocks, it will end with Daniel readying a Crane Kick while Johnny prepares a Flying Side Kick. The screen will stop, and it will be shown a picture, just like Rocky III Ending, with "You're the best (Around)" rocking in the background.
- Sid will make a Back for the Dead appearance and become the one who finally make Johnny understand Daniel didn't steal Ali from him. Sid will also die and leave Johnny a big amount of money. Johnny will buy a new karate studio and attract Cobra Kais not wanting to learn from Kreese. He'll also get Daniel's former students.
- Kyler will show up and reveal he spent Season 2 level grinding.
- Robby's mom will return.
- Well...confirmed that all three of those characters (plus Yasmine who also did not appear in Season 2) will return in Season 3. As for big roles...uh. Johnny goes to Sid to get money for Miguel's surgery. Kyler shows up and joins Cobra Kai and becomes Miguel's Final Boss towards regaining his full ability and confidence in his health and fighting. Shannon returns in rehab and is ultimately the one who helps bring Robby in. Yasmine shows up and starts a potential romance with Demetri.
In season 4 Miguel will have recovered enough from his injuries to return to school. Miguel will refuse to rejoin Cobra-Kai and will be targeted by his former friends as a result. Miguel will refuse to give up his new found pacifism so Sam will step up to protect him. If Hilary Swank ever makes a cameo it will be here.
- Season 3 Jossed all the way around.
- Demetri starts undergoing a (reconstructed) transformation similar to Eli/Hawk thanks to Miyagi-do, which attracts Moon to him.
- This of course also makes Eli's anger and jealousy reach a fever pitch and, without Johnny guidance, will cause him to take actions that may make him finally cross the Moral Event Horizon (e.g. kill Demetri or force himself on Moon, or both).
- Or, given their actors are dating as of late 2019, Moon will start spending time with Miguel, leading Hawk to battle his former best karate friend.
- Jossed. Demetri does enter a potential relationship but with Yasmine of all people. Moon isn't really much of a factor.
- Well the swaps between dojos happens at least.

- All the other characters will inevitably turn against him, but after already looking into his Freudian Excuse and portraying his defeat in a sympathetic light, he will decide to pull a HeelFace Turn and start over with Koala Kai.
- With Daniel no longer teaching them, Sam likely being too distraught over what happened to Miguel, and Robby most likely being on the run, Demetri will take it upon himself to keep the remaining Miyagi-do students together and keep each other protected, especially since they'll more than likely still be targeted by Cobra Kai.
- Jossed, Sam is the de-facto leader of Miyagi-Do all the way through, though Demetri does assert himself far more than Season 2.
- After Robby, Demetri is student most (positively) changed and influenced by Daniel's teachings.
- Jossed, Amanda ends up convincing herself after seeing just how far Kreese is willing to go and how little law enforcement is willing to do to help.
- You know how viewers were saying Daniel was always an angry and violent kid and still is? If that's Chozen's voice we heard there, we're going to learn the harsh truth about Miyagi's formative years. Also expect to learn about the mistake that served as a wake-up call to Daniel's sensei.
- Jossed. What Daniel ends up learning is that Miyagi-Do is not 100% about self-defense and does have techniques for killing since it was used to deal with warring invaders.
- Johnny clearly doesn't understand how copyright laws work, so he will just mindlessly use the name without thinking much about it. This will lead to a hilarious sequence where he gets copy-striked and forced to pay for the right.
- Considering that an actual Cobra Kai school is in Las Vegas (a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu school) and they likely pay royalty rights to Sony to use the name and snake logo, it could be a fun little bit of Very Loosely Based on a True Story legal shenanigans. And considering how Season 2 ended, some light comedy about name rights might be a fun way to lighten the mood.
- Close! It actually ends up being called Eagle Fang.
- Hawk will see Kyler and his friends and attack him for what Kyler did to him in season one, but the group of wrestlers will hold their own till the Miyagi-Do students see and help. Desperate for new students to join and help in the fight against Kreese's Cobra Kai, both sides will be forced to join forces. Kyler and co learn karate and at the same time teaches Miyagi-Do mat-based wrestling. Wrestling uses the entire body and can be an effective tool to combat karate and give an extra martial art to the show. Throughout the season both Kyler and his friends try to make amends with Miyagi-Do and by the season's finale they would have fully patched things up and become friends.
- Jossed, Kyler and his friend Brucks join Cobra Kai (well his friend attempted to anyway before Hawk beat him to a bloody pulp). That violent act though made sure Kyler didn't try to start anything after that.
- Confirmed to return for Season 3, Kyler will take advantage of Miguel's current crippled state and resume bullying him again. This will cause a reaction from both dojos:
- Miyagi-do: Sam and Demetri defend Miguel from Kyler, with Demetri most likely going to be forced to actually fight.
- Cobra Kai: The students (particularly Tory and Hawk) will immediately go No-Holds-Barred Beatdown on Kyler, who may cripple him in return or possibly even kill him.
- Kinda confirmed? It's very clear during the Season Finale assault that his goal was to get revenge on Miguel, especially while he's still weakened from the Season 2 fall. However, while he does give Miguel a damn good beating Miguel finds his Heroic Second Wind to put him down again. Also for some Nice Job Fixing It, Villain! he may have accidentally triggered Hawk's HeelFace Turn and his defection from Cobra Kai. Oops.
- She will encounter Johnny and Daniel, and she and Johnny will again rehash the "you called me a bitch" argument. After which, Daniel will say "What a bitch."
- Jossed
- They're both violent aggressive people and with Miguel in a coma he can't warn her about Kyler. Sam might try to warn her about Kyler, but she'll brush it off as her wanting revenge for the fight.
- Jossed for Season 3 at least. The two don't really interact whatsoever.
- Kreese may have taken over Cobra Kai and forced Miygai-Do into disbanding, but it's unlikely he'll stop his crusade against Daniel. After all, we saw how far he went in The Karate Kid: Part III to get his revenge for ruining his dojo; imagine how resentful he feels after three decades of destitution, brought forth by Daniel's doing? Now that he has students who are willing to do anything to get what they want, there's no telling what fresh torments or the lengths they go to if their sensei tells them to go after Daniel La Russo. They could target his business, his house...even his family...
- And given that he was on the other side of her glorious little wind-up, there's no way in hell he's going to let Amanda off in the long run. A two-for-one deal for him.
- Somewhat zigzagged. He does have his students go after Miyagi-Do students but generally leaves it at that at first (the School Fight itself did enough damage to Daniel's PR and Auto Group). But when Amanda tried the same tactic Daniel used on Johnny in Season 1 to force him out of the strip mall he ramps up his efforts considerably. First he sends a snake to the Auto Group showfloor and during the city council meeting does his best to throw Daniel under the bus for everything that happened in regards to the Mob War.
- Jossed...at least in terms of his target. He delivers a "Reason You Suck" Speech to Johnny himself, calling him out for abandoning his students, allowing everyone to call him weak and a pussy and tells him to sack up and accept that he is a sensei. Interestingly enough it's that very speech that galvanizes Miguel to stand on his own two feet (literally) and helps Johnny reassess his status.
- Jossed, he's pretty much the same.
- Right now. But as Yasmine proved, this series has a history of surprises.
- Jossed, it was Brucks who received the beating.
Miguels rehabilitation in the trailer will actually be an Imagine Spot.
- Surprisingly Jossed. It wasn't Kyler but one of his friends from Season 1. It did do its job in cowing Kyler towards him though.
- Somewhat confirmed. Miyagi-Do has techniques that are suited for killing that Mr. Miyagi specifically did not teach Daniel and Chozen does teach at least one to him. Daniel doesn't use it to kill though.
- This may also lead to a grudge match between Kyler and Sam, considering the fact that he was the one who started the blowjob rumor about her.
- Calling it now: yes, he's pretty much the same as he was in the first season. But she curb-stomps him in the same vein as The Next Karate Kid. Kreese (having been done away with in a similar way) orders Kyler to actually off her, and either he (1) flat-out refuses, effectively putting him firmly on his way to a HeelFace Turn, or (2) gleefully obliges, only to get curb-stomped again and cement his status as the ultimate jerkass.
- Jossed. He is a pupil, but not exactly a star one. He definitely ranks below Hawk and Tory and eventually Robby.
- As pointed out by the Miyagi-do and Eagle Fang students, despite coming together to work towards a common goal (taking out Kreese's Cobra Kai) their natural Opposing Combat Philosophies are inevitably going to cause conflict and friction between their senseis and their training. Johnny and Daniel will struggle throughout the season to find a true balance between their styles.
- Despite Robby now being dedicated to Cobra Kai, he may still occasionally fall back on the teachings he learned under Daniel.
- And being the only other student to have a connection to all three sensei, he will be the type of Bringer of Hope that was often attributed to Alli in the wake of the second season climax.
- Given Hawk's HeelFace Turn in the finale of Season 3 and rekindling his friendship with Demetri, next season we'll be seeing Hawk apologizing to Moon for his actions in season 2 and hopefully the two can either be friends again or start over, like Sam and Miguel did.
- If Nicole Brown is brought back for Season 4, we'll be seeing Aisha come back to the Cobra Kai dojo, only to see that none of her friends, save for Tory, are there and that Kreese is running it. After seeing how Kreese operates Cobra Kai, Aisha leaves and eventually someone from the Miyagi-Do/Eagle Fang will find her, fill her in on the situation, and after Aisha reconciles with Sam, she joins her friends.
- Alternatively, Sam or any of Cobra Kai's former students will fill her in on the events of Season 3 offscreen and Aisha joins in after reconciling with Sam.
- Somehow, Julie from Next will catch word of the All Valley tournament going on and how Miyagi-Do is involved. Somehow, she shows up at the Miyagi-Do/Eagle Fang dojo volunteering to help train since Miyagi was her mentor too and this will lead to a few interesting interactions between Daniel and Julie, along with some with Johnny and possibly with Amanda.
- For example:
Julie: Daniel LaRusso?
Daniel: Who wants to know?
Julie: I do. You trained under Mr. Miyagi, right?
Daniel: I did. How do you know him?
Julie: I trained under him also. You happen to know where he is?
Daniel: I'm sorry, he's long gone. Who are you, exactly?
Julie: Julie Pierce. I heard Miyagi-Do's gonna be part of the All Valley tournament comin up soon and I figured I'd help since he was my teacher too. Think you got enough room for me?
- Robby could also become a Dragon with an Agenda or The Starscream, learning what he can from Kreese to enact his own revenge against everyone, believing society caused all their problems with themselves and each other in the first place, from the controlling but incompetent political correctness to the bullies who continue what the former was trying to stop. Taking advantage of being much more familar with his generation than Johnny or Kreese are.

Throughout season 3, Kreese has shown himself quite savvy about the law, manipulating it to his advantage and purposely provokes Daniel, Johnny, and their associates into acting he ways he can slam them with legal ramifications. This leads to an interesting question; what was Kreese's plan to get away with killing Daniel (and possibly Johnny) during the season finale? It could be entirely possible both his suffocating Johnny in a necklock (once again) and his comment about Daniel going to 'meet Mr. Miyagi soon' were done in the heat of the moment, but it begs the question what his end goal luring them both to the dojo was. To beat them up and send a message? No, there's another angle to consider: Castle Doctrine. American law states that use of fatal force is allowed should the victim initially threaten fatal force to another individual in a space they legally own (such as a house or business). Kreese has shown time and time again his willingness to manipulate the law in his favour. If Kreese murdered Daniel, and was to go to court and argue in defence of his actions, he could use Castle Doctrine to show that Daniel was physically assaulting him in his place of business, with possible intent to kill; indeed, even with the other LaRusso's attempting to sue the Cobra Kai students for the assault on their house, Kreese can easily claim plausible deniability and argue even if that was the case, it doesn't justify Daniel attempting to murder him. Indeed, it's possible that Kreese purposely set up the whole situation to make it look like Daniel was overreacting to what would ultimately amount to a lesser crime. Combined with his pre-existing restraining order against Amanda, Kreese has the deck stacked well in his favour to make Daniel look guilty.
- As for Johnny, Kreese has the perfect motive to pin on him as well: Robby. Kreese could exploit Johnny's desire to rescue his son. Kreese would look like a valiant protector who was simply trying to defend Robby, and make Johnny look like he was attempting to take Robby forcefully, perhaps even pointing out how Johnny picked up the sai to drive the point home. The worst part? If called as a witness, Robby could possibly go along with this plan, since he's become more sympathetic to Kreese and has come to completely detest Johnny. Essentially, if Kreese ended making the kill on both Daniel and Johnny, he has ample ways ways to make both of them look guilty for breaking and entering with intent to kill.

- Considering this is Kreese we're talking about, expect heavy cheating/bribery/blackmail/whatever dirty trick he can come up with to seal their victory.
- Well he did lead Cobra Kai to three straight All Valley Championship wins before 1984, so it's inaccurate to say he hasn't done ANYTHING successful.
- If this happens, perhaps Daniel will try to do the same by bringing in Chozen's Miyagi-Do to level the playing field.