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  • Aborted Arc: The subplot of Ganondorf and Jigglypuff working together in Smash King HD, as well as the appearance of two Greninjas spying on Lucario, was never followed up on. This is mainly due to the series being a spinoff of the main Smash King, and Smash King 2Decades more or less fills the role of a canonical "sequel."
    • This seems to be the fate of Racconto, likely due to Episode 17 providing abbreviated retellings of the events that occurred in Melee.
  • Acting for Four: Tigura21 voices Bowser, Wario, Meta Knight, and Captain Falcon. In the older versions of earlier episodes, Tigura also voiced Ike, and every other character in the series beforehand.
    • This also applies to some of the other VAs as well. In particular, Megami33 voices Peach and Pikachu, IblisStarEvan voices both Ike and Kirby and Unit613 voiced both Diddy and Donkey Kong before leaving the project (Tigura mentioned in a now-deleted annotation that he was cast as both due to his impressive ability to make monkey noises).
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    • Shadowlink4321 became The Other Darrin to Sean Chiplock's Falco Lombardi in Episode 14, and also voices Shadow the Hedgehog.
  • The Cast Showoff:
    • Some versions of Season 1's ending sequence have Megami33 singing an English version of "Mai Mrai", the closing theme song.
    • Before formally leaving the project, Lioncourt decided to do a tribute to Ganondorf in this series by singing a cover of "Hurt" by Johnny Cash.
  • Creator Backlash: Tigura doesn't look back on the production of Ganon's Class Reunion too fondly, as it had a substantial amount of Development Hell going into the production, to the point of a near-Creator Breakdown. That being said, he's still fond of the final product, particularly with the Ganon vs. Bowser tennis and Azure Bomb scenes. Tigura also doesn't care for Memory Lane Galaxy, as it mostly consisted of characters talking about previous events, and was quite tedious to work on as a result.
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  • Creator Breakdown: The Development Hell that went into Ganon's Class Reunion was so strenuous for Tigura that he considered giving up machinima altogether, particularly due to his struggles with working on fight choreography, learning after-effects on the fly, and his outdated editing software constantly crashing while working on it. Thankfully, the final product and the viewers' reception to it was enough to keep Tigura going to this day.
  • Creator's Favorite: Tigura is a major fan of Bowser, hence why he not only made the Koopa King the lead character in Smash King, but also voices him. He's also a fan of Donkey Kong and Wolf.
  • Cross-Dressing Voices: As mentioned above, Megami33 voices Pikachu even though the character is male.
  • Deleted Scene: Quite a few over the course of the series:
    • In the original cut of Episode 2, Bowser is seen (via flashback) trying to recruit Game and Watch to his team. G&W is seen...beating his meat, and Bowser leaves awkwardly. It was removed from the remake because a) it was mainly put in for a cheap laugh, and b) it didn't match with Tigura's vision of how to portray G&W later on.
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    • Episode 5 had a deleted scene where Bowser and co. played a game similar to laser tag at his house party. It was removed because it didn't really add much to the plot of the episode, especially when said episode focuses mainly on Wario.
    • There was also a scene in Episode 5 that had Captain Falcon confronting Wario after the latter had run over the former back in Episode 1. This scene was removed in the remake for unexplained reasons, although it's likely because it was mostly filler.
    • Episode 17 had an altered ending: in the final cut, Lucario's Ascent Mode is Mega Lucario, which purges Mewtwo's spirit from his body and forces the real Lucario to emerge. Originally, his Ascent Mode was to be Lucario's Shiny coloration. In addition, Dedede and Ganon would have been present, and Meta Knight would attempt to cut Lucario off before he reached Bowser. This was all changed to better flow with the story, primarily Episode 18 (although some parts of this scene were reintergrated into Episode 18).
  • Development Hell: Episodes 13 and 17, much to the creator's annoyance. 13 was mainly due to the huge amount of fight scenes (requiring a lot of editing on both outdated crash-prone software, and entirely new software that Tigura had to learn how to use on the fly), while 17 was due to the incredible amount of exposition.
  • Easter Egg: Jigglypuff is occasionally seen sleeping somewhere within the world of Brawl, and each episode has one sighting of the Balloon Pokemon. Word of God says the "Jigglypuff Sighting" is like a game of Where's Waldo? and are subliminal messages like what Smashtasm has.
  • Freeze-Frame Bonus: During Wario's flashback where the Yoshis invaded Bowser's house in Episode 15, one Yoshi remarks how Bowser isn't a true gamer because he doesn't have Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. A brief line of text appears, which reads "Goes to show how old this script is."
  • Long-Runners: Hoo boy. Smash King possibly might be the longest-running Smash Bros. machinimation of all time. To put it in perspective: The original series started waaaay back in 2009, and is still ongoing over a decade later. And that's not getting into the fact that the series has two spin-offs, and one official sequel series in Ultimate that is also in production.
  • Mythology Gag: Many, many aspects of the series reference the character's home games one way or another.
  • Old Shame:
    • Tigura21 doesn't look back on the original versions of Episodes 1-6 all that fondly, due to his amateur voice acting, and less-than-stellar camera work and effects. He's since remade all of the episodes he was dissatisfied with, though he has the original versions of the episodes for archive purposes.
    • If this tweet is any indication, Sean Chiplock would prefer to forget his work on this series, due to the project being one of his very early forays into voice acting, and his inexperience being very noticeable compared to his later roles. That said, he does have fond memories of working on the project, he just gets nervous at viewing his older work.
  • The Other Darrin: Given that the series has been running since 2009, and is still being made to this day, several actors have come and go from Smash King.
    • Ike was orignally voiced by the creator, Tigura21, before the role was given to IblisStarEvan.
    • This could be said for half the cast in the first couple of episodes. Prior to being remade, Episode 1 was voiced entirely by Tigura and Megami33, and Tigura voicing every character in the original version of Episode 2. With the cast having expanded and the aforementioned episodes being remade, this is no longer the case.
    • Ganondorf and Zelda are now expected to be replaced by other voice actors as well, due to Kira Buckland understandably becoming too busy to continue being Zelda, and Tigura sadly ended up losing contact with Lioncourt. Zelda and Ganondorf are now voiced by Rachele1220 and TheHedgehogEngine, respectively.
    • Charizard was originally voiced by CrayZBrawlr, who was also an understudy for Ganon. Now that CrayZ is no longer active, Charizard is now voiced by Blaze1216J.
    • Lizardon was initially voiced by Patty Allen in her earlier appearances before being replaced by Kalyn (previously known as VioletXWing), her current voice actress.
    • Falco Lombardi was replaced by Shadow's voice actor Shadowlink4321, due to Sean Chiplock leaving the project and becoming a well-known VA in his own right.
  • Talking to Himself: As stated up above, Tigura voices a whopping four different characters in the series, all who have prominent roles. Taking into account how different the voices are for each character, and that three of those characters tend to share screentime together in various episodes, it's impressive how talented Tigura is at making their voices so believable.
  • Throw It In:
    • Captain Falcon tripping after being defeated by Mario in the first episode wasn't in the original script, but Tigura felt that it was in-character for it to happen to Falcon, so he kept it in.
    • During the scene where Zelda is enacting her revenge on Dedede in Episode 8, Kira Buckland decided to record some lines that had her angrily berating him for calling her "boring". Tigura was so impressed that he not only included it in the final product, but he also had OniRokaku record the lines of Dedede screaming and Wangsting about the pain he's receiving in response to it.
  • Vocal Evolution:
    • Has happened with many characters in the series, but Bowser in particular takes the cake. His original voice was more reminiscent of Tigura21's own voice, rather than the voice based off of The Super Mario Bros Super Show! as stated earlier.
    • Wario's voice in earlier episodes was very quiet and high-pitched. In recent episodes, Smash King HD, and in remakes of older episodes, Wario's voice is much deeper and louder.
    • Peach's voice has gotten slightly higher in tone in recent episodes, which can be spotted in the remake episodes.
    • Falco originally had a strong Brooklyn accent in the beginning of the series, courtesy of Sean Chiplock. Starting in Episode 13 however, the accent has been toned down a bit, due to Falco receiving a new voice actor.
    • A minor example, but Toon Link originally sounded more like a child in some of his early appearances. In later episodes, Toon Link now sounds a bit like a young teenager.
    • In the few instances Lizardon spoke in the early parts of the series, she was very quiet and reserved. As she gained much more presence, her voice got much louder and flamboyant.
    • Snake's voice was initially a very low Guttural Growler voice, which reassembled the character's original voice actor from his respective series. After being replaced by TokaAsh, Snake's voice is now much more of a Badass Baritone, drawing parallels to CrayZBrawlr's Ganondorf voice.
    • Wolf's voice changes significantly in Episode 22 due to being replaced with a new voice actor; with his dastardly Evil Brit accent toned down significantly.
  • What Could Have Been:
    • Apparently, Tigura originally planned Marth to be the third teammate rather than Meta-Knight, but decided that having two human characters with Bowser in one team looked off.
    • Marth was also originally planned to be the third member of team Sonic but was replaced by Ike after Tigura21 decided to expand on Ike's role.
    • Sonic's original concept for his Ascent Mode was going to be Darkspine Sonic instead of Hyper Sonic. It was originally shown in an older (although no longer available) version of the Second Opening, but Darkspine Sonic was scrapped in favor of Hyper Sonic, since Hyper Sonic PSA/Moveset Hack was already available to use, as opposed to Darkspine Sonic, whose moveset hack was taking too long during development. As for why Darkspine Sonic was originally chosen, Sonic's Ascent Mode was planned to be of The Berserker archetype, which would be intentionally out of character for Sonic. It would have focused on his strength, instead of his speed. As for the transformation into Darkspine Sonic, Sonic would have ran so fast, that he would have created three after-images of different colors. He would then fuse with those afterimages, and then transform into Darkspine Sonic. This method of transformation was a reference to Sonic's transformation in the Secret Rings, where he absorbed three World Rings to become Darkspine Sonic.
    • Even bigger was the original premise. Smash King was meant to be a sappy romance story between Bowser and Peach, before several revisions turned it into what it is today, even though some bits from the original plot made it into the final draft.
    • Another alternate premise would have had Bowser win the Smash King tourney and, having gone mad with the newfound power he possesses, conquer the world as it transferred from Melee to Brawl. It would have been up to Pichu and Donkey Kong, Bowser's original teammates, to find someone capable of saving Brawl from the tyrannical Koopa King. According to Word of God, this entire draft was referenced in Episode 15 during Wario's vision of Bowser as king of Brawl.
    • Bowser's fight with Ganondorf in Episode 13 almost never saw the light of day, as Tigura had come close to burning himself out during the editing process, and just wanted to end the episode then and there. However, he realized that it would've been very dissatisfying to end the episode without some kind of epic conclusion, and thus powered through to complete it.
    • According to a Q&A video the creator did, the "Ascent Giga Bowser" seen in Episode 15 was never intended to be used in the series in any way, shape, or form. However, events centering around Ridley resulted in it being used in order to give him an excuse to "show up", after Bowser gets incarcerated. This resulted in the whole plot point of Bowser becoming fused with the Creator's power, and releasing said power into the world of Brawl, reawakening Ridley in the process.
    • An alternate version of Peach's charging of the Star Rod was recorded not by her usual actress Megami33, but rather by Zelda's original actress Kira Buckland.
    • Tigura revealed on his Twitter account that Episode 14 had a lot of changes that greatly affected how the episode flowed. In particular:
      • There was dialogue between Mario and Bowser during their battle to emphasize Bowser playing the villain and to goad Mario into attacking him. While most of it was cut so as to not take away from the fight itself, some of it was repurposed in the final product. Also, Peach and Ike were going to be the ones who stopped the two from fighting, due to Sonic initially not being present.
      • Dialogue was also cut from Bowser’s battle with Team Snake, which would’ve shown Bowser trying to evade his responsibility until Peach brought him back to his senses. It was cut not just due to it slowing down the action, but so that there could be more room for Ridley to appear. Bowser was going to fight all three members of Team Snake at once, but Tigura realized that this would make the rest of the cast come across as useless bystanders, so he changed it so that Wolf guards them by using Peach as a hostage. However, some of this dialogue was used in Episode 15.
      • During the battle above, there was going to be a scene where Bowser pinned Samus to the ground with his foot threatening to crush her, while she aims her cannon arm at him. This was scrapped because this would’ve been quite a shock for Wario to witness.
      • Samus was initially going to be much crueler and manipulative towards Bowser after subduing him, but she was re-written due to her coming off as too unlikeable for Tigura’s taste.
    • According to a group Q&A, Episode 19's introduction to the Twilight Realm Subplot was heavily revised during the scripting phase. There was originally going to be a war between two factions of the lesser trophies; one on the side of "the creator has a plan for us" vs. "action must be taken in the absence of the creator", with Midna leading the latter faction. He realized that having the main plot revolving around the last days of the tournament, Ganondorf's plan, Ridley and the Tetracardinals, and a war that is occurring in a separate different dimension would end up being too much to balance.
      • In the same Q&A, he also revealed a big revision with Episode 18: after the battle between Ascent Mode Bowser and Ascent Mode Lucario, there would be a big jailbreak sequence, similar to the one in Episode 8, but Up to Eleven. It would then follow to have the entire main cast meeting Ridley. He cut these sequences out in favor of finishing up the tournament first, and having Ridley his spot to shine against the mercenaries, President Dedede and Fox.
    • In a twitter thread by Tigura, Smash King 2 Decades had underwent a lot of changes before it was officially released.
      • The series was originally going to be in Smash 4, and would have been put into production when a free camera mod was published. While a camera mod was developed, it was never officially published before making the shift to Ultimate.
      • A dramatically different set of members for the Neo Koopa Troop in the Smash 4 iteration. Aside from Bowser, the team members comprised of Palutena, Shulk, Mega Man, Captain Falcon, Female Robin, and a female Gold Charizard. This cast was chosen before Bayonetta was announced as DLC, and a complete overhaul was implemented when Inkling, Incineroar, and K. Rool were added to the roster in Ultimate. The first episode of 2 Decades references this team as a Mythology Gag in a brief scene, and the Gold Charizard will be carried into the series, but will be male instead of female.
      • Had K.Rool not been added, Male Robin would have taken up his role instead as the main antagonist.
      • Bowser's characterization would also have been different. Instead of wishing to become the new President of the World, he was a mob boss that ended up being killed, but somehow escaped the afterlife. When he sees that his son has taken over in his place, he uses the Smash King tourney as his leverage to reclaim his title.
      • This series would have also explored what would happen when a character's soul once they lost all 10 of their stocks. This event drives Pit to Bowser, with Bowser claiming that he wasn't the same person he was before he lost all of his stocks. Palutena would have joined the team to be Bowser's good conscience, and Pit would end up being a part of his team as well due to this.
  • Write Who You Know:
    • Bowser and Wario's friendship in the series is heavily based on Tigura21's own relationship with JakShadic, Sonic's voice actor. In a Q&A, Tigura described their relationship as sort of a Red Oni, Blue Oni parallel, with Jak (Wario) being a hyper and excitable person and Tigura (Bowser) being more cool and reserved.
    • Similarly, Bowser and Lizardon's relationship is based on Tigura's feelings for an old college friend of his that he never got the chance to express to before she transferred schools.
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