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    Infinity Train 
  • Armestis:
    • Even though Simon and Grace have both undergo a Heel Realization and are more willing to accept Tuba and Hazel as Denizens, Tuba isn't willing to let Hazel join the Apex. The Apex having spent years tyrannizing other Denizens, and Simon and Grace need to not only work on recovering from that belief but also help their own subordinates do the same. Meanwhile, it is too risky to let Hazel around them in fear of her getting hurt, especially with her being a Denizen.
    • Unlike in canon, where Simon's fall to madness pushed them into realizing their methods were wrong, most of the Apex doesn't immediately believe Grace and Simon telling them that their lifestyle is destructive and that they've been murdering sentient beings, especially since it was Grace and Simon that told them that way was right in the first place.
    • Despite their Heel–Face Turn, most denizens aren't willing to cooperate with the Apex due to their history of terrorizing denizens. The only ones that do are in cars that never heard of the Apex before their encounter.
  • In All Roads, Lake finds herself unable to use smartphones, since touch screens are designed to work with skin, not metal.

    Invader Zim 
  • The New Adventures of Invader Zim:
    • During their first fight, Dib tries to stake Norlock. However, since all he has is a piece of wooden debris, with nothing else to hammer it in with, he fails to penetrate Norlock's ribcage.
    • Viera's attempt to teach Gaz a lesson in humility only succeeds in making Gaz hate her and want her dead. After all, Gaz is a spoiled brat who's used to everyone being too afraid of her to defy her; when she meets someone willing to stand up to her, of course she's going to be too petty to let it go.
    • When everyone fights the sea hydra, Dib figures out how to beat it by telling everyone to blast as many of its heads off as possible. The hydra grows all its heads back and extra ones until it has dozens of heads, and almost immediately afterwards collapses on its own. It had too many heads at once and not enough blood for all of them, so it lost consciousness without oxygen properly getting to its brain.
    • Zim and Tak's competition for control of Earth was always doomed to fall apart because of the Tallest's hate for Zim. After everything he's done, the competition was ultimately just a means to get rid of him one way or another and when it seems that he's about to get a dangerous Super Weapon, they obviously don't trust him with it and finally turn on him completely.
    • After all the time and effort put into mentoring Zim, of course Norlock wasn't going to just let him give up once the Tallest banish him.
    • Norlock's betrayal arguably also counts. Have the villainous Hypercompetent Sidekick get in a confrontation with Dib where the latter points out that for all said sidekick's insistence he's both manipulating Zim so that he'll be his Puppet King and helping him achieve his potential as a villain, he's ultimately just a coward who hides behind others instead of doing the work himself. THEN have that same sidekick have an epiphany and see that on some level Dib is right, especially since that no matter how hard he tries to teach Zim to better himself as a conqueror he won't learn. So once Norlock sees a way to seize power for himself he's quick to run for it.
    • When the Swollen Eyeball agents point out that Team Save Earth have constantly failed to collect any credible evidence that Zim or the other Irkens are aliens, Viera counters by pointing out that it's hard to gather evidence when you're in the middle of fighting for your life.
    • Zim's attempt early in Season 2 at blackmailing Gaz into serving him by threatening to reveal to Dib that she sold him out to Zim at the end of Season 1 fails because, as she points out, she doesn't care what Dib thinks of her, and even if she did, Dib is unlikely to believe anything Zim has to say about her anyway.
    • Nyx puts a bounty out on Dib, thinking that Zim will be pleased with her. Instead, he's pissed, since aside from the fact that he wants to kill Dib himself, she didn't even talk to him about it before doing it.
    • Dib is not happy to see Dwicky again, as despite his good intentions he did still lie to and trick Dib the last time they met. It's only after their new adventure together that Dib decides to (mostly) forgive him.
    • When Gaz is blamed for the damage caused to Game Slave Inc. headquarters by the rampaging rat people, she realizes she can't tell people what really happened because with her as the only witness, no one will ever believe it.
      • Gaz earlier abused her position during her trip to Game Slave Inc. by snitching on workers and/or making sure they get the blame for slights. So when she's accused of the damage committed by the rat slaves, a worker she abused is quick to pin the blame onto her. Even if he had been willing to believe her possible claim that the rat creatures were responsible or if he had also witnessed the incident, he'd be hopping at the chance to pay her back for her horrid behavior.
    • Because everyone (except Tenn) causes or otherwise gets involved in trouble during their Career Day assignments, they all end up sent to detention.
    • When Red questions why they allow the Dark Irk-Net to exist when it's used for crime and sedition, the Control Brains point out that it's run on independently operated servers outside of their control network. As such, it's hard for them to even monitor most sites, let alone shut them down.
    • The Massive is the size of a small planet. As such, there's a lot of redundant space that's rarely ever used by the crew, and therefore has plenty of room for Bob's New Irken Order cell to use as a headquarters.
    • While Tak talked the Tallest into giving her a chance at conquering Earth, she was never officially re-encoded as an actual Invader, meaning she's nearly barred from entering the Invaders' tournament until the Tallest vouch for her. Similarly, it turns out that she's technically AWOL from her janitorial assignment, which she fled so that she could steal Earth from Zim, so she almost gets arrested for desertion until the Tallest waive off the problem.
  • Chapter Six of Scraps and Oneshots is actually entitled "Reality Ensues", and places a realistic spin on the events of "Planet Jackers". Turns out having the planet be dragged light-years off course and left to orbit around a different sun has VERY negative consequences; the planet is wracked by natural disasters, and societal collapse happens rather rapidly, with the only pocket of civilization left being the city where the show takes place, and that only because Professor Membrane is putting all his resources into sustaining it.
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    Jackie Chan Adventures 
  • Jackie Chan Adventures: Olympian Journey:
    • Despite Jade being part of the action to stop Eris from unleashing chaos, she still has school to go through. Jackie is furious when Jade tanked her mid-term in Chapter 7, to the point that he prevents her from joining him, Uncle and Tohru on the trip to India to search for Hera's essence.
    • After the other villains completely forget him and leave him behind following the fight over Athena's essence, Zhixin is understandably pissed. This makes him susceptible to Hera's essence, and means that the first thing he does with the Mind Control powers that come with it is to make them Kneel Before Zod as payback.
    • Rather than using his divine foresight to find the man using the bayonet with the essence of Ares in a Civil War reenactment, Prometheus snaps a picture and uses the name tag on him and the pictures online about the reenactment.
    • When Eris is chasing the heroes, who are fleeing in a helicopter, she is calling out to them, but they can't hear her over the rotors. Jade even lampshades it.
    • Eris stands in the middle of the road after Ares dies a second time, her power leaking out and affecting people. She promptly gets hit by a car whose driver her power drove into a blind rage.
    • An aircraft being cloaked doesn't make it actually invisible. Thus, Eris is able to attack the Section 13 jet as it returns with Aphrodite's essence.
    • When fleeing Eros!Drew's minions in an Air-Vent Passageway, Rachel is too large to fit and has to go up to the rafters, and it's noted that even the below-average Jade is finding it a tight squeeze.
  • Queen of All Oni does this at the end of the story. Just because the heroes win doesn't mean that a Reset Button is hit on all the psychological damage incurred over the course of the story. It is specifically stated by several characters that things can never go back to the way they were.
  • Queen of Shadows deconstructs You Shall Not Pass! at one point — during the fall of the last free human refuge in Kyushu, Toguro attempts to halt Ikazuki's advance in a one-on-one duel. But as Ikazuki points out, this is only holding the General himself, while his forces continue their rampage, whereas otherwise Toguro could be fighting them all off.
  • Webwork has Jade grow up in a demon netherworld from near the start of her adolescence right into the start of her adulthood as she mutates into a spider demon. The only two beings in this dimension who aren't trying to eat her care more about her physical growth than her social one and barely talk to her. When she's finally freed from the demon netherworld as a fully grown adult, she still acts mostly like a child because she's spent eight years in almost total isolation and her social skills were horribly stunted as a result.
    • When she tries to pretend to be a prostitute for Chang. He catches on instantly that she's not. As she's too muscular and too tattooed, and is acting more like a prostitute from a movie would than a real one.

    Jojo's Bizarre Adventure 
Jonathan Joestar, The First Jojo:
  • In chapter 1, Jotaro and Jonathan have to fight Mariah and Will A. Zeppeli, but due to the latter's gentlemanliness (as a result of being raised in 19th century England) he refuses to fight the former. Jotaro has to convince him to momentarily stun her in order to land a hit.
    • As of chapter 9, it's also been shown that Jonathan's height means he can't go inside a taxi, forcing the group to walk to their destination.

    Jurassic World 
  • It takes several tries for Owen to get a full quartet of raptors in Tainted due to modern viruses killing some or all of the clutches he gets.
    • Despite his unparalleled bond with the raptors, to the extent of being able to safely sleep in the same room as them, no one else is happy about Owen taking them for walks after hours, with reactions ranging from insisting he's suicidal to calls for them to be put down.

    Kamen Rider 
  • While fighting Gai Amatsu/Kamen Rider Thouser in ''Kamen Rider Zero-One: Secretary Special'', Izu's scanners point out several injuries from Gai's previous Curb Stomp Battles, showing his body is in terrible condition since he chose to take care of his own injuries rather than go to the hospital and risk his public image.
    Narrator: "Given the number of poorly-treated injuries he was constantly acclimating and the preposterous amount of painkillers he was regularly consuming, it was a miracle he was even functioning at all."

    Kantai Collection 
  • Ambience: A Fleet Symphony:
    • In chapter 31, Sanford explains at length to the ship girls about how trying to uplift the Chicago poor by just having the rich give money away won't work.
    • In chapter 34, it's mentioned that staying underground without sunlight means Vitamin D supplements are needed.
    • In chapter 42, once Shiranui loses the element of surprise, Kongou clearly has the upper hand. In a fair fight, a destroyer can't beat a battleship, righteous anger or no.
    • In chapter 47, though she makes a valiant attempt, Yuudachi gets killed after being double-teamed by HMS Swordfish and Javelin.
    • In chapter 61, Damon tells Kongou that putting all of her heart into doing something won't help make it good if she doesn't actually know how to do it right.
    • In chapter 119, Kitakami recalls that she had been warned against returning to the Boise CCPL post because the ship girls' slowed aging might have led to inconvenient questions.
  • Ambience: Platoon (Moebius Four): Contingency Summer tells us that the rest of the world, not realising how big the threat really is, is getting nervous about Japan's rearmament to fight the Abyssals.
  • The Greatest Generation:
    • Shipgirls get latitude beyond what conventional personnel are allowed because they are Bunny Ears Lawyers, but there are still limits. Tenryuu has gotten a lot of slack for her recurrent disciplinary issues because of her effectiveness, but gross insubordination and threatening a foreign officer cross the line and she is scheduled to be scrapped for it.
    • Just because everyone's fighting a war against the common enemy that is the Abyssals doesn't mean that all past hatreds and grudges magically vanish. Zuikaku is the most obvious kanmusu with objections to Yvonne's actions, but far from the only one.
    • This is reiterated in Chapter 5. The Akatsuki sisters are made painfully aware that modern geopolitics aren't as simple as they'd thought.
    "I don't understand, why people would distrust us for trying to capture an Abyssal?" Inazuma asked, "Aren't we all on the same side, nanodesu?"
    • In chapter 6 the narration notes that Japan, being as resource-starved as it is, can't make good use of refugee labour the way Australia or other more bountiful nations can.
    • Putting The Men First sounds noble in theory. But if public expectation and perception expects you to send your subordinates out to Hold the Line, even if doing so is a Senseless Sacrifice of a Suicide Mission, then refusing to do so will get you politically crucified.
    • In chapter 9, it's noted that the severe losses the US took have changed the geopolitical situation. Getting the World War II fleet back would swing things back in their favour, but failing to do so would only worsen their image further. And that's why they're suppressing the failure of the programme.
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    Kick-Ass 
  • Given that he lacks both Dave's toughness (and newly gained skills) or Mindy's years of training and armory, when Marty joins the all-out brawl in Trip Like I Do, he ends up badly beaten and in a coma due to confronting a tougher, more experienced opponent.
    • Dave shows that Unskilled, but Strong doesn't help against someone who's both skilled and in good shape. At the start of his training, Mindy easily kicked his ass whenever they fought. After he Took a Level in Badass, Dave finds the (massive) guy who beat Marty into a coma and delivers a No-Holds-Barred Beatdown before finally killing him.
    • Mindy ends up badly injured against an untrained thug due to him getting the drop on her.

    Kill la Kill 
  • In Cellar Secrets, this happens in the case of Ryuuko being a Wild Child and the rehabilitation. For one, her age does play a factor, as the older she is, the less they can reclaim, along with the fact that she'll improve as time goes on but she'll still remain stunted. Likewise, she's is terrified of almost everything and knows enough speech to state a few things, but still has to learn how to use syntaxes. Said rehabilitation would be a long and ongoing one; at the beginning of the story, she stayed in an institution for awhile before getting to come home.
  • Concerning a Drifter has this in a few ways, as what happened to Ryuuko had gotten her pregnant four times by rape, as her captors likely didn't give her birth control, left her mentally ill and severely traumatized to the extent that she can no longer care for herself (this could happen), and the fact that Satsuki is deeply affected. Likewise, while the perpetrator and many others were sentenced, things don't go back to normal, as Ryuuko still lives in a mental hospital and doesn't return to her normal self, along with Satsuki not feeling satisfied.
  • The Crimson Garment has this with Satsuki. Unlike what we're shown in canon, Ragyo's abuse does have it's effects on Satsuki, as she associates touch/physical contact with domination, hates much to do with being touched, can't tell genuine love and care from manipulation, and she's terrified of her mother.
  • One line from Endless Numbered Days mentions that Satsuki used to smoke. One can guess this is what leads to her being diagnosed with lung cancer.
  • Ryuuko's brain tumor and the after effects in I Never Really Knew (and its sequels):
    • As noted in the story, meningiomas are uncommon in women under 55, thus they'd be harder to diagnose, on top of the fact that her symptoms pointed to other things, likewise, though some of her symptoms have gone after the surgery, Ryuuko is still left with poor vision and some paralysis, with no guarantee that her vision will come back because of how much of it's gone. In that vein, earlier in the story, when she's told the news about her sight and hospitalized after seizure, she doesn't take it well and was pretty upset, in which case, she cries in those instances.
    • Because Ryuuko's vision is poor, she startles easily, as Mako finds out in Seeing the World With Cloudy Eyes. In Orange Juice, unfortunately, her poor vision also makes her easier to trick since if the colors aren't bright enough, she can't tell a carton of milk from a carton of orange juice.
  • One More Time, One More Chance:
    • Ryuko has a history of escaping and running away, so, in chapter 12, Satsuki expects this and takes precautions to make her escape plans moot by closing the gate to the property and putting security outside.
    • As noted in earlier chapters, due to negative experiences in the orphanage and when she was adopted out of it, Ryuko doesn't have any reasons to expect she'd be treated well in another new home and so she's wary of Satsuki's intentions, along with not believing she had a sister. Tying into this, when she is recognizing that she's being treated well, she's rather clingy, not wanting Satsuki to leave, and not wanting to disappoint her, along with fearing the worse if she were to.
  • In The Outside, this is played with:
    • While Ryuuko's care under the guardianship of her sister was already iffy, her well-being wasn't being called into question. Regardless, some intervention would have been called for. However, when Aikuro (her tutor) notices Ryuuko's leg in a splint (she snuck outside to play with Mako and got hurt), social services are called and she's subsequently taken away, especially when it's made clear that she didn't get medical treatment (she treated her own injuries).
    • As said on the trope page, Ryuuko's stint in foster care is supposed to be temporary, until they can find her mother (or, at least, a more capable guardian).
    • In a later chapter, as "Rae" put it, three runaway foster children are not going to go unnoticed by their guardians and authorities. Likewise, as Chapter 18 points out, disguising a child that's reported missing doesn't really work if someone is very observant and there's too much of a coincidence, in which case, Tsumugu doesn't fall for Ryuuko's disguise, as, clearly, the latter looks too much like the missing girl.
    • Due to having been raised so sheltered, Ryuuko doesn't have any experience or knowledge of strangers, much less how to avoid dangerous ones. Likewise, in chapter 25, due to having been raised so sheltered (along with being a little malnourished and having not have had vaccines), she's more prone to illness and becomes seriously ill, as she hasn't been around other people to be protected by herd immunity. Adding something to this, her being raised sheltered and isolated has some bearing on her physical appearance as she's noted to be pale in complexion and, if Satsuki's slight negligence is to go by, she's a bit short for her age.
    • As noted earlier, raising anyone in the way Satsuki tried to raise Ryuuko, especially when they don't agree with the idea, is going to make them rebel, which the latter obviously does.
    • Since Satsuki was the only family she had known, Ryuuko's very attached to her and isn't adjusting too well to her absence. In that vein, when she meets her mother again after a decade, she reacts with fear.
    • As noted through the plot, isolation does not tend to do wonders to the psyche, as Ryuuko, due to having a few people to interact with, she becomes a cloudcuckoolander and, having little socialization, some of her emotional development was stunted.
  • Much of the conflict between Ryuuko and Satsuki in Secret Sunshine, especially in regards to Kiko.
    • Though she loves her niece, Ryuuko, from what we can get, does not feel the same way towards Kiko's mother, Satsuki, actually, she has a lot of resentment towards her for giving birth to and leaving Kiko with her, doing nothing (except setting her up with a house and sending checks), for two years, nor is she taking kindly to the idea of Satsuki wanting to re-enter her daughter's life, after said absence. In that vein, part of why she's so attached to Kiko is because, in a sense, she was abandoned, too, leaving them both without anyone to turn to. Likewise, she doesn't want to talk to or think about Satsuki at all because of this.
    • What taking care of Kiko entails on Ryuuko's end. Besides being attached, she makes it clear that parenthood requires sacrifice and it does, as taking care of Kiko came at the expense of her once carefree life of youth and her health, as, since, during what time she had to herself, she had nothing to (and, as implied, to cope), she just ate, getting heavier than what she was before, and, when funds were low (because of bills/expenses), she starved, so Kiko wouldn't go without.
    • When she hears that Satsuki's pregnant again, she's not happy with the news and, given her situation with Kiko, said news makes her more upset with her sister. She's also skeptical of Satsuki's ability to parent, as the latter, quote, "abandoned Kiko at the earliest instance".
    • When Satsuki visits Ryuuko in the hospital (after the latter is hit by a car), Ryuuko's not delighted to see her, actually, she's still hostile towards her.
    • Tying into the abovementioned, Kiko only knows and, therefore, sees Ryuuko as her mother, calling her "Momma" and getting upset with her absence, along with not taking kindly to being separated. When Ryuuko is hospitalized, she doesn't even notice Satsuki.

    Kim Possible 
  • At the Centerfold of the Storm:
    • At the start of the story, much of the world is still recovering from the Lorwardian invasion, with many towns and cities still in the clean up phase.
    • While Dr. Director gave Shego a full pardon of her past crimes as thanks for helping to save the Earth, there are still many criminal organizations, corrupt officials and Banana Republics that felt no need to honor such, meaning she had to spend the year between the end of the series and the story effectively cleaning house. And even then, there are still countries where she's effectively Persona Non Grata.
    • One of the major themes is a Deconstruction of the Harmless Villains. It's explained that they simply had reservations about killing a minor. When it becomes apparent that Kim has grown up, they stop holding back. It is also discussed how an organization like Henchco. could function without Global Justice or other law enforcement agencies cracking down.
      • Even then, Henchco. is teetering on the brink. First is from the fact that Kim's actions have severely reduced the number of clients available. And then later, when he raises the bounty on Kim's head to $500 billion in cash, he learns the hard way just how cash-short his business really is. But the final nail in the coffin is when, after word of the bounty hits the news, and he's forced to use a credit card the get the rest of the payment ready, he ends up completely depleting all of Henchco.'s accounts. Between this, and Jim and Tim hacking into Hechco.'s servers, and all the dirty secrets therein, it's a tossup of whether Henchco. will file for bankruptcy before its accounts are frozen.
    • During the mission at Castle Senior (which, for the record, is located at a mountain glacier in Romania), Rufus is only used once, to save Bonnie from the McHenry laser grid. This is due to the fact that, as a naked mole rat, everything about his physiology (from the obvious lack of fur, to being one of the only species of mammal that's unable to regulate it's body temperature) is stacked against being in a cold environment.
    • When GJ finally cracks open Henchco.'s mainframe, you'd think all the dirty secrets would be all contained in one digital bundle, right? Turns out, it's a sprawling mass of data, and GJ is swamped trying to process it all.
  • Bleeding Through:
    • When Drakken and Shego attack Kim's high school, causing massive damage, the superintendent concludes that Kim and Ron's presence puts a massive bull's eye on the school and expels them. This, in turn, results in reality ensuing for the superintendent: First of all, Kim's parents sue him; second, when monsters attack the town, he belatedly realizes that, thanks to his actions, Kim and Ron are no longer there to defend everyone.
    • Also discussed in terms of just how the Go Team's powers actually work, since each one shreds the laws of physics into confetti. What's more, exposure to a radioactive meteor should really result in cancer instead of superpowers, let alone such radically-different superpowers in such closely-related subjects.
    • There's also the matter of Rufus' intelligence, which is explained as being due to him being Ron's familiar. Also, it's pointed out that the reason he doesn't speak full sentences is due to the fact that, as a rodent, he doesn't have the necessary vocal organs.
  • Both of the above fics also reveal the fate of Team Go's parents: They died, aka, what normally happens when one is struck by a meteor with enough force to blow up a treehouse.
  • Commander Argus uses this in his KP series of fics. For instance, during Kim and Ron's senior year, a new principal is in charge of their school, who is just as averse to their missions taking them out of school as a Real Life school administrator would. Additionally, You Are Grounded does not contain an exception for missions.
  • The basic premise of His Honor, The Mayor, Drew Lipsky is that the Kim Possible cartoon is a Show Within a Show akin to The Rusty Venture Show leading to several differences from canon:
    • Kim may be an Action Girl, but between all the wierd and occasionally horrible things she has to see saving the world and Brainwash Residue from being hit by mind control or similar mad science devices who knows how many times she has some PTSD, it gets worse when she breaks her arm saving Senior Jr. during a hot air balloon accident since she's bedridden and has no missions to distract herself.
    • Later we find out the source of Kim's PTSD: Global Justice has been screening her help requests to keep her away from anything too traumatic but do to a mixup she and one of the most Nominal Hero Cowboy Cop members they had got sent to a low level bad guy outpost, seeing him pull a Mook Horror Show and killing a bunch of unarmed henchmen almost made her kill the guy if she hadn't noticed one of her friends getting injured in the crossfire and rushing to help them instead.
    • Monty Fisk retired from villainy after Ron got the Mystical Monkey powers because he knew he couldn't compete with The Chosen One causing the folks making the cartoon to make the Yono episode to write him off.
    • In the cartoon Gemini has a prosthetic hand with a missle launcher, in the fic they lampshade the fact that it couldn't work that way so his hand launches sticky homing beacons for guided mini missle launchers he has his minions conceal wherever he goes such as in his lair or, more relevant to the story, in the instruments his minions play while disguised as a band at a party where Gemini tries to assassinate Drakken. This nearly fatally backfires when Drakken accidentally knocks the sticky tracker onto Gemini, fortunately the missles also don't operate under water so Gemini jumps in a swimming pool to save himself.
    • Initially Kim thinks Drakken isn't elegible to run for mayor due to being a supervillain. However due to the fact that Kim is a vigilante and doesn't have the right to arrest Drakken, only stop his crimes and an old law that made sense at the time and never got repealed Drakken's criminal record doesn't disqualify him from running for mayor of Middleton.
  • Kim Possible: Mirror, Mirror: Sherri received powers from a radioactive comet. She feared becoming pregnant due to risks to the baby.
  • In Ron Stoppable And His New Pets (both the original fic and the comic adaptation) Ron accidentally crashes into an invention of Cyrus Bortel that combines his mind and emotion control tech, which gives Ron the ability to make women love and want to obey him just by telling them to do something. When he passes out during the crash saying to Kim, Shego and Adrena Lynn that he wishes they'd "listen to him" and accidentally turns them into his harem. A guy's fantasy brought to life, right? He has the absolute love and devotion of three incredibly beautiful women who will do whatever he says and do anything to please him. Including encouraging him to have sex with them whenever possible. He should be thrilled right? WRONG! He's horrified that he's 'brainwashed' the three of them, especially his best friend. The first thing he does when it's all been explained to him by Bortel, is ask if there's a cure and refuses to take advantage of the fact they will do 'anything' for him. He feels guilty and uncomfortable when they display their love for him knowing its just because of the mind control tech. He only starts to make an attempt to be more comfortable about the situation after it's made clear that its absolutely irreversible and permanent, but he is still not completely at ease with it no matter what.
  • In Zen and the Art of Ass Whupping Hirotaka finds out that having a black belt is not a guarantee of winning against an opponent who is equally skilled in a different martial art. Especially when said opponent is a foot taller, weighs twice as much as you do, and knows a few barfighting tricks that they're not afraid to use.

    Kingsman 
  • In Trials, Harry survives Valentine's attempt to kill him because the man had never fired a gun before and looked away when pulling the trigger; his aim was off by enough for Harry to use fake blood to look like he died.

    Kung Fu Panda 
  • The Vow:
    • Po's father attempts to hold back Lord Shen's wolves from following his wife and son during the panda massacre. However, since he's a strong farmer but not a seasoned warrior, he quickly becomes wounded against half a dozen wolf soldiers. Before he nearly gets his throat sliced, he flees (though he takes a different route than his wife).
    • When Lady Lianne tries to convince her former friend Zhan the Wolf Boss that Lord Shen's plan to conquer all of China is folly, she points out that they'll be facing China's whole imperial army with the wolf pack, one tribe of gorillas, and a dozen cannons. Even if they win in the end, many of Zhan's wolves — who are family to him — will lose their lives. As much as Zhan doesn't want to hear this, he cannot shake off the truth of Lianne's argument.
    • During the epilogue, Lord Shen has a horrific nightmare about losing his family, so he tries to train with the body that is still recovering from bone injuries. Forcing himself to press forward despite the pain, he ends up injuring himself further and prolonging his recovery. No matter how much of a Determinator you are, your body — especially when severely injured — won't take more than it can.
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    Let Me In 
  • In Toronto Bat Fans Let Me In series, even before Owen becomes a vampire, his grandfather Oscar has to keep Owen and Abby's presence secret because Owen's presence would raise too many questions after his disappearance from his mother's flat, even without the fact that people may wonder about why Abby is never seen during the day.

    The Legend of Zelda 
  • As with the game, this novelization of Hyrule Warriors depicts Cia as an absurdly powerful sorceress who has lusted after Link for ages. As soon as she has him at her mercy, she wastes no time in putting him under mind control and forcing him to sleep with her.
  • In The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, Nudge the pirate is depicted as someone who takes several long showers, singing all the while. During Link's trip to the Forsaken Fortress, Nudge is in the shower for the whole journey (which takes about half an hour) and, as Link passes by his room on the way out, he wonders how Nudge's shower is still hot. At that moment, the shower quickly runs out of hot water.
    Nudge: Hoi! Where did all the hot water go?
  • A Tale of Two Rulers: Zelda splashes her cup in Vaati's face. Since it was alcohol, it burns his eyes.
  • When the Brush Hits the Canvas:
    • Link's first confrontation with the Evil Sorcerer Yuga does not go well for Link. Other than being turned into a painting, he is also left with a serious scar on his right arm.
    • Zelda does not rule Hyrule alone; it is shown that she asks Impa for council for her every decision.
    • Since Hyrule is medieval, when Link sees plastic for the first time, he has no idea what it is and spends quite a lot of time studying it.
    • Most people are right-handed, so for left-handed Link, buying shields is an issue.
    • Link may be able to recognize all the monsters in Hyrule thanks to his reading, but he has no idea what the boss of the House of Gales is because nobody has seen such a thing before.
    • In the game, Irene was simply a glorified Warp Whistle, and the player could call her at any given moment. However, here Link has to be mindful of her own schedule, and tells her to stick around if he needs to leave immediately afterwards.
    • Unlike the game where Link has no problem traversing lava pits, here the volcano acts like a volcano - breathing is almost impossible because of the gasses and the moisture, he is dehydrating at an impossible speed, and he can barely handle opening his eyes.

    Life Is Strange 
  • I Want You To Watch Me, makes a point of illustrating that sex is not always going to go perfectly. Max, Chloe and Rachel may all be skilled in bed and love each other very much, but there will be times when someone just can't reach orgasm for whatever reason (at least not without their partner/partners switching things up).
  • The premise of We Know You're Watching is that Rachel and Chloe - who are a couple here - want to gauge if Max would be interested in joining them by subtly encouraging her to eavesdrop on the couple having sex, believing it'll be no more than a harmless bit of fun. It ends up backfiring on them badly; Max takes their bait and listens in on the couple (and also masturbates to them), but after accidentally alerting them to her presence, her first instinct is to assume that they'll both terminate their friendships with her for invading their privacy in such a manner. As close as Max might be to the other two, voyeurism is very much frowned upon by the vast majority of people (at least when the voyeur doesn't have consent). Between that, and Max being a naturally anxious person who lacks key knowledge of the situation, it's not unreasonable to assume she'd jump to such an off-the-mark conclusion, whatever the couple might have expected.
  • In chapter 5 of What If's, while Ryan and Vanessa Caulfield are Good Parents who have no issue with Chloe dating their daughter, they are understandably worried about Chloe's past history of drug use and petty crime. Chloe for her part assures them that she's changed since then, but otherwise doesn't hold their concerns against them.

    The Lord Of The Rings 
  • The Game of the Gods is thirty-three instances of this. Morgoth fashions Mary Sue after Mary Sue; Varda carefully imposes reality and lets their own impossibility do them in. Reality Ends Sues?
  • Don't Panic is all about this. A young woman falls into Middle-Earth...but she doesn't know any more Sindarin than your average Tolkien nerd, is not initially believed by everyone when she tells them she's from the far future, and she is not sent on the Quest, because why would they include a young woman totally unused to their world, with no weapons skills whatsoever?
  • Home with the Fairies, like Don't Panic, is what happens when someone beats the "girl falls into Middle-Earth" trope with the Reality Stick. Maddie has no idea how she got there, has no clue how to survive in a medieval environment, can't speak a lick of any of the languages, etc.

    The Loud House 
  • In An April Advisory, while Lynn Sr. sympathizes with Luna's anger over Luan pulling a prank on her despite being specifically asked not to, he can't condone her viciously beating up her younger sister in retaliation and grounds her for the next two months. Killer period cramps are no excuse for beating your younger sister bloody, especially when she frantically begs you to let her go. On the flip side, Luan escapes punishment due to Lynn Sr. deciding that the beating she endured was punishment enough, though he does make it clear that that's the only reason he's being lenient with her.
    • When Luan realizes just how furious Luna is over her prank through her sister breaking her nose, she quickly devolves into terrified pleading and said terror sticks around for days after the event, leading to her moving in with Leni (as Leni had her room to herself due to Lori moving out to attend a college in Great Lakes City with Bobby a few months prior).
    • Despite it being April Fool's Day and thus a day when Luan aggravates them, Leni and Lynn Jr. came to Luan's defense when they saw Luna beating up the former, especially since Luan was in terrified tears and suffering a bloody nose and several bruises by that point and Luna appeared to be perfectly fine other than being damp (not to mention the younger kids were all freaked out by the brawl in question as well). As much as the family dislikes Luan's April Fools pranks, none of them are spiteful enough to let Luan get hurt in revenge for one of them. Luna ended up as a pariah to her family due to her actions.
      • Both Leni and Lynn ended up with painful injuries as a result of stopping the fight; the former winds up with a nasty bruise from getting clocked in the head and the latter receives a rather painful bite to the arm.
    • Lynn Jr. being hit over the head with a frozen baguette during the "the Louds think Bobby is cheating on Lori" fiasco actually was a medical concern as it bruised her forehead due to being frozen.
    • Lincoln is well-aware of what the menstrual cycle involves due to having 5 older sisters; this still makes him uncomfortable and he's reduced to a deep flush and stammering when Luna discusses the matter with him.
      • Conversely, of the 4 younger sisters out of toddler-hood, only Lisa was aware of what "that time of the month" is when it's brought up; Lucy and the twins have to have Lisa give them The Talk before they get it and Lola is absolutely revolted.
    • When Luna and Luan reconcile, they both end up admitting that they share blame in the whole mess. The former for losing her temper and the latter for the prank itself. Luan even admits that when she was apologizing during the beatdown, it was more because she got caught and was in danger than because she was actually sorry, which she regrets for real this time.
    • Luan admits that she's still kinda scared of Luna, even having nightmares about her beating.
  • In Fool Me Thrice, Luan receiving a Trauma Conga Line on the way home from a Wild Goose Chase after the moving van that supposedly had her belongings on it is met by horror on the part of her family, especially since it involved a gang of adult bikers beating her; Luan's April Fool's antics may be aggravating to her family but they don't want her hurt and they certainly don't find the fact that she is badly injured funny like she expects.
  • In The Fool Who Cried Foul, Luan's protests of Not Me This Time fall flat after Luna's performance as SMOOCH's opening act is sabotaged in a way that resembles Luan's April Fool's Day antics. It doesn't help that she doesn't have an alibi other than "I didn't do it!" due to having been away getting ear plugs for Lisa. The only reason Lincoln doesn't fall in with the blaming was because A) Luan actually started off the story as a Cool Big Sis giving him tips on his magic act and B) he was already worried something would go wrong for someone in the family that week (since several of them had something important going on during the week) and as such, noted the suspicious people who the family ran into before the show.
    • Despite Lincoln being willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, he still has to treat her as a suspect (to Luan's clear dismay though she concedes that Lincoln needs her side of the story) and Luan still isn't helping her case when she proves that she knows exactly how to pull off the chicken stunt that rattled Luna and wrecked her performance.
    • Luna is in no mood to consider anyone other than Luan as a suspect in the sabotage when Lincoln and Clyde show up despite the fact that she and Chuck can vouch that Luan got to the Chortle Portal when she says she did. And even when she calms down, she reiterates that Luan's April Fool's Day antics don't do her any favors in proving her innocence. Luan trying to claim that there's a difference between said antics and the sabotage she's been accused of doesn't help either.
    • The sabotage forces the concert to be rescheduled and despite SMOOCH thinking highly of Luna and her band, they end up dropped as an opening act due to schedule conflicts and the fact that Luna and her band, being minors, can't travel with SMOOCH.
    • When Luan tries to extend sympathy to Luna over the lost exposure, Luna tells her to stow it because whether or not Luan actually did sabotage her, she's in no mood to listen to someone she has several reasons believe would have screwed her over just for a laugh.
    • When Lindsay is caught in an attempt to sabotage Lola's routine, she's thrown out of the building and one of the judges comments that such behavior got her banned from the current pageant.
    • When Lola accuses her of sabotaging her ribbon dance routine, Luan quickly finds herself unable to prove she wasn't responsible because she has no evidence and because everyone saw her bump into Lindsay, who admitted to trying to sabotage Lola.
    • When Lincoln and Clyde discover an diary entry in which Lola details her plans to gaslight Luan on April Fool's Day into thinking her pranks caused Lola severe injury, they're both horrified as while both of them find Luan's April Fool's antics disturbing, they're well-aware that she'd be devastated if she hurt a family member, especially a younger one, and that Lola's plan would be Disproportionate Retribution. Lola herself appears to have realized this as well as most of her more extreme ideas have been crossed out and she seems to have discarded the plan entirely.
      • Related: Lincoln knows how protective of her diary Lola is so when one of its pages turns up in Lola's dressing room, he's quickly suspicious that Lola might be the one framing Luan since she's been quick to blame the comedian both times one of the Louds has been sabotaged though he does privately admit that it doesn't quite add up given that the current situation doesn't match up with other times Lola's sabotaged herself; since he isn't sure what's going on, he intends to question Lola.
  • Another fic tackling No Such Luck is Girls Among Sheep, although with a key difference in that it averts much of the extreme actions Lincoln's family took towards him in the episode. It turns out that Lisa never believed Lincoln was bad luck, and actually forged sham evidence showing he is to keep the other sisters from turning on her. Lincoln not attending a movie with the rest of the family was really a punishment for him lying about being bad luck to get out of hanging out with them. When Lynn Jr. panics and begs the parents not to kick Lincoln out for being bad luck, Lynn Sr. and Rita are shocked that she'd consider they'd ever do that to Lincoln, bad luck or not. Not only does Lynn Jr. apologize, but she and the rest of the sisters have an epiphany over how they treat their brother and resolve to be better.
  • In Heavy Meddle - Epilogue, Rita gives the girls a What the Hell, Hero? speech for automatically assuming that Ronnie Anne would be a Loving Bully to Lincoln just because she's female. Also, Ronnie Anne is grounded for two weeks by her mother when her bullying is revealed, and it turns out that she punched Lincoln because he kissed her without warning, even though they barely know each other.
  • By the same author as Code Geass: Ashikabi of the Amour Oneshot listed in the crossover section, Lincoln and the Vampire Louds Theoretical Oneshot applies some reality takes in its theoretical first chapter.
    • The fic has some mention of the idea that Lincoln is adopted into the family at around his canon age, as some fics do. However, the fic notes that it took a while for some of the sisters to take to him, as not everyone easily takes to a new family member. While most of the sisters have reached a point of a canon-like relationship with them (Bar Lola), it took time to get there.
    • Related to that, as the title suggests the Loud Sisters in this fic are in fact vampires, who are mostly friendly. However even after a year with them, Lincoln still is highly uneasy about the fact they (except for Luna), feed by ambushing and feeding on humans. And while the Loud sisters are friendly, some of them like Lynn, are not aware that it bothers Lincoln and remain blunt about it, while others like Lucy are aware of Lincoln's unease and try not to casually mention feeding on people.
    • Also related, Lincoln wasn't taken in by the Louds for no reason. Lincoln in the one-shot developed a special ability that allows him to tell if a person isn't a regular human, meaning that having him wandering around is dangerous for them, while killing him would bring in dangerous attention.
    • Continuing related trends, even without needing to kill or turn, vampires can be detected. Humans that are used to working with large groups of people, like Agnes Johnson, can pick up that a vampire child is somewhat different from a human child. Trends relating to blood loss, like nausea and dizziness cases, can be tracked as well, though without cause to look they aren't obvious.
    • Still related, as the world of the fic has a masquerade involved involving supernatural being and powers, there is a governing body. Said governing body, the Benevolence Society, has laws regarding behavior among such beings. Among them is vampire feeding, which the Louds do not follow and also have not registered with them. As a result, the moment the Society picks up that illegal vampire feedings are occurring, they amass their attention on solving the problem.
    • Finally, the Benevolence Society operates in the public sphere is an organization that advances the New England Federation's people culturally and financially, pushing for laws and ideals they support. Per Lincoln's own words, they promote "the virtues of Liberalism, Progress, Science, Tolerance," and other related ideals. Underneath the shadows in the side of the superhumans and supernatural beings the group is run and staffed by, they overage for the virtues of Liberalism, Progress, Science, Tolerance and everything else [they] publicly preached. Lying about what they do would make it easier for people to spot cracks in their organization's masquerade, and thus the organization follows all their rules, laws, and ideals to a T. The leader, who is taking the identity as Theron Dodekantheon the Fifth, still pays the taxes of Theron Dodekantheon the Fourth, averting Undead Tax Exemption and thus, another crack someone could follow into the rabbit hole.
  • Lincoln Gets Limber: When Lincoln brings up Lynn's reputation as "the girl who does every sport imaginable", Lynn points out that it isn't really true for two reasons. First of all, there are sports that she has tried but hasn't really liked doing, such as netball, golf, volleyball, and tennis, demonstrating that even a Passionate Sports Girl like Lynn won't enjoy every sport that exists for various reasons. Secondly, her schedule only allows her to be part of seven sports teams (basketball, soccer, roller derby, softball, lacrosse, football, and ice hockey) and she can only fit them into her schedule because all of them are during different seasons, and the ones that are during the same season take place during different times of the week or the day.
  • Losing Him:
    • Kicked out of your own house or not, when a defenseless child is just wandering around town with no adult supervision whatsoever, you can almost guarantee that something bad will happen to them; Lincoln gets shot by a mugger because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. And naturally, people are going to be wondering why a child would be wandering around town that late at night with nobody watching them in the first place.
    • Detectives Stone and Brookes arrest Mr. and Mrs. Loud on the spot once they find out they evicted Lincoln from his own home, since throwing an unemancipated minor out of their house is a major crime. They also have an understandably hard time believing the two parents when they admit that neither of them knew that kicking Lincoln out was a crime at all, especially for the pettiest of reasons.
    • Lincoln isn't so willing to forgive his family so easily, as they had hoped, due to them being the main reason he was outside to get shot in the first place.
    • When the public finds out about them kicking Lincoln out of the house because they believed he was bad luck and nearly dying from a bullet wound as a result because that incident was plastered all over the news, they all become outcasts. All of their friends and romantic partners end their relationships with them and are disgusted with how horribly they treated their brother.
    • The Squirrels' coach tells Lynn that people saw her blaming Lincoln for their loss and that he was informed by her teammates that she forced them to partake in good-luck exercises to increase their chance of winning games. The coach is disappointed in Lynn's unsportsmanlike behavior and he tells her that she's getting kicked off of the softball team. In fact, all of the other coaches and the school board decided to kick her off every single sports team she's part of at school and ban her from every school-sponsored sports event for life, because her poor sportsmanship is responsible for what happened to her brother. Lynn may be great at sports, but being a Sore Loser and relying on luck to win will not be tolerated. As the coach points out, great athletes rely on skill to do well and they take losing in stride, as well as using it as a motivation to do better.
  • In Missing Linc, despite his efforts to ensure otherwise, Dirk O'Donnell learns that unless someone is actually acting in a movie, play or TV show, they aren't going to stick to a script just because they've been told to do so. Especially when they're angry at you for kidnapping their brother. The only reason his daughter Ginny does is because he's forced her to do so her whole life.
    • As smart as Lisa is, she's still only four years old, so Lori is naturally concerned about her being able to look after Lily on her own. Similarly, however brainy she is, Lily is still only a baby and as such, can't always interpret the things she encounters.
    • Despite Ginny’s regret about the whole mess and her helping the Loud sisters rescue Lincoln and calling the police on Dirk, she still gets arrested for helping kidnap Lincoln in the first place, albeit it’s implied that she’ll get a lighter sentence than her father.
  • No Such Luck, No Such Love is a Deconstruction Fic about Lincoln's Butt-Monkey status. All of the things that Lincoln suffered through is revealed to have stuck with him and he begins to resent his sisters (not Lily, since she's just a baby) and parents for it. In real life, there's no such thing as Negative Continuity, nor is there a Reset Button, and mistreatment is likely to stick with a person and make them spiteful.
  • The fanfics by Orange Ratchet (especially Leni Loud The Genius?) do this in perhaps one of the most hilarious ways possible. The fanfics continue Lincoln's role as the Fourth-Wall Observer just like in the series proper. However, everybody else actually notices Lincoln talking. To them, Lincoln is basically just talking to himself, and because he does it so frequently, they begin to worry about him.
  • Requiem for a Loud has Lucy and the twins getting suspicious of the odd behaviors that everybody else in the family are displaying.note  Just because they're young kids doesn't mean they won't notice anything out of the ordinary.
  • Shattered Innocence: In this dark retelling of "No Such Luck", Mr. and Mrs. Loud are taken to be questioned, and receive life sentences after the authorities learned that they had locked Lincoln outside of the house, which gave the Royal Woods Stalker all the time to kidnap and murder him. The sisters are also made outcasts for their part.
  • In Stories and Tales from Dimension 63 when Lincoln (now trapped in the body of a female version of himself) tries throwing heavy textbooks at her brothers as they chase her while acting like dogs because she was delivering newspapers the books barely leave her hands before they fall to the ground. A heavy book being thrown by an unathletic eleven-year-old girl is not going to go very far
    • Lincoln points out that giving barely discernible riddles for fragment locations doesn't help in finding them.
    • Believe it or not, favoring one kid over the others not only hurts the other kids but if you go on to treat that kid in a way they don't feel comfortable, they'll have no incentive to ever go back home if they find a better place to live.
    • If you try to groom a boy into becoming a good date for your sister, then you have the audacity to threaten him if he fails, don't expect him to be able to deal with the pressure. Ron Andy is a good example of this.
    • Levi, Lisa's counterpart points out that, for a four-year-old to accomplish as much as others older than he is who can take years to make the same those same accomplishments, it requires a ridiculous amount of work, no matter how smart you are. And even then, the boy can still run into older resentful rivals who wish to see him fail. It gets to the point that Levi embraces any opportunity he has to just be a normal boy.
    • Chapter 23; in a trading card game, strategy is just as important, if not more, as the kind of cards you have in your deck, and you need at least some experience in the game before hoping to win a big match. Chandler is a beginner when it comes to Duel Monsters, and, as Lincoln points out, picked her cards entirely based on their looks, not their effects or how they could work together, hence why she loses.
    • Lincoln finally gets to go to 'Take your daughter to work day', only to find out that it's only a boring lecture by her mother's boss, and realizes back in her home dimension that the girls have only been having fun by running riot in the office.
      • The boys tried doing the same on their first 'Take your son to work day' which takes place the day after, and got banned from ever going to another one. Linka was only permitted to attend afterward since she'd been there the day before and was known for being much better behaved than her brothers. Lincoln figures out that his sisters' rampages at their father's job made it that he wouldn't be welcome there.
    • One could say this happens every single time Lincoln reveals his true identity, and vice versa with Linka: Just because you're better or more tolerable than the person you're imitating, doesn't mean people will take it nicely once they find out the person they're dealing with is an impostor.
    • Linka-in-Lincoln's body overpowers Lincoln-in-Linka's in every point where they get into fisticuffs. An unathletic little girl just can't win with brute force against a boy who recently went through a rigorous training regiment courtesy of Pop Pop.
  • Velvet Fist (Act I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII) stars Leni who, upon being unmedicated, decides to go on a revenge scheme against all who wronged her. However, some of her schemes do not go completely according to plan, with unforeseen consequences left and right, and she realizes during it that some of the parties she wanted to get revenge on were not as wrong as she assumed at first and so toned down her revenge schemes against them, unlike in many such fics where the guilty stay just as guilty as assumed. Also, even with her best efforts to hide her changes from them, her siblings do pick up on how she is acting off.

    Love Hina 
  • An Alternate Keitaro Urashima:
    • Keitaro refuses to run the Hinata Inn since, not only are several of the girls violent and don't want him there, he's got his own life to live and can't devote that kind of time to running the dorm. When Granny Hina tries to play the childhood promise card, Keitaro points out that you can hardly expect someone to stick by a promise they made when they were five and to a girl he barely even remembers.
    • Granny Hina's attempts to manipulate Keitaro into becoming manager cause massive rifts in their family. Turns out his parents don't appreciate how she lied either.
    • Haruka's tendency to punish her workers and abuse customers she dislikes lead to her getting sued and losing the teahouse.
    • Su has to get a part-time job to pay for some food she ate at the bakery that was meant for some customers, costing them clients. And even after she pays it off, the bakery and other food stores post signs warning about her tendency to steal food.
    • After coasting by without paying her rent for several months, Kitsune has to pay it all back or get evicted.
    • Naru punching Keitaro nearly gets her kicked out of their cram school, and she becomes a social pariah.
    • After being warned several times, Motoko attempts to challenge Keitaro to a duel... and gets arrested and charged with attempted assault with a deadly weapon. Her fangirls get arrested as accessories. This leads to her expulsion from the Kendo Club.
    • Ryuichi lost his job after Ogi revealed how he'd stalked Keitaro and Miyabi.
    • After the fiasco with Keitaro, Shinobu starts reevaluating her relationship with the other girls and comes to the conclusion they've just been treating her as an Extreme Doormat.
    • Kyoshiro and Nanami (Keitaro and Kanako's parents) refuse to even consider letting Kanako drop out of school for over a year to go on a world tour with Granny Hina.
  • In Ancestor, (Kei)Taro Urashima developed a healing technique using Ki to stimulate a body's natural healing ability (he describes it as miracle grow) which can even be used to re-attach severed limbs. So when a particularly clumsy novice kept losing a finger or two trying to learn swordsmanship, the cells connecting his finger to his hand started rotting due to being several decades older than the rest of his body. In order to save his life, the healers had to amputate his arm.
  • Contract Labor:
    • When Keitaro asks his trainers why he's being trained to shoot three targets at a time he's told no matter how good he is, if he's facing more than four enemies with guns at once, he'll probably "suffer a fatal dose of lead poisoning" before he can shoot them all.
    • One of the mercenaries on Seta's dig is left temporarily near deaf from firing his rifle inside a cave.
    • Motoko is banned from carrying deadly weapons (such as her katana) on her person in the dorm as it's a safety issue regardless of how skilled she is.
      • Likewise violence, except in self-defense, is not allowed at the dorm. Keitaro further states that any self-defense has to be proportional. Pushing someone off you is okay; punching someone out is not.
  • For His Own Sake:
    • The story begins with Keitaro leaving the Hinata Inn after three years of acting as the manager to a group of girls that appear to look for any reason to attack him. He also breaks up with Naru, viewing their relationship as unhealthy, warped, and one-sided.
    • Keitaro's parents are pissed off when they learn that their son was constantly assaulted or abused by his tenants.
    • When Keitaro's Aunt Marumi becomes manager, she declares that she will be converting the girls' dorm back to a regular inn and throws the girls out. After all, no sane manager would want to keep violent and troublesome girls in their inn.
    • Motoko is disgusted when Kanako reveals she has feelings for Keitaro right after learning they are siblings. Kanako quickly explains that they aren't really related, but Motoko doesn't buy the justification.
    • Because Seta is unequipped with dealing with his daughter, Sarah, he is forced to ship her off to a strict boarding school. The headmaster chides him for his poor parenting when he reveals why he is doing this.
    • Unlike Naru, Sarah, Su and Motoko at first, for the latter; Kitsune and Shinobu are able to realize their mistakes and sever ties with the rest of the Hina girls. Kitsune, while greedy, does acknowledge her part in Keitaro leaving because she isn't violent or unreasonable like Naru and Motoko are. Shinobu, while never taking part in the violence, is still chewed out by Keitaro because she never did anything to help him despite being more reasonable than the others and took Naru or Motoko's word for any accusations against him every time without learning from those experiences.
    • Kaolla Su decides to "cheer up" the guests at an inn by chasing them with exploding Mecha-tamas. Dozens are injured, the inn is nearly destroyed, and Kaolla is arrested as a terrorist. Not mention she puts a serious strain on her home country's own reputation.
    • Naru's Hair-Trigger Temper gets her into some very hot water when she punches a man that she assumed was making creepy passes at a woman. The man and woman are revealed to be a married couple. On top of that, he's revealed to be the career adviser at Tokyo University that Naru had an appointment with, meaning Naru put her academic future and job prospects in jeopardy because she made one very hasty, foolish assumption.
      • Naru's continued Victim Blaming when the school investigates sees her expelled, with her academic advisor noting what a shame it was.
  • In Love Hina: Like It Could Have Been, when the girls angrily declare that they'll never let a man be their manager, Keitaro leaves and instead smooths things over and strikes up a compromise with his parents (and thus not be forced to live at the Hinata Sou). This leaves Haruka as the acting manager for the dorm and she is not at all happy with the way the girls treated her nephew, nor with how they've been allowed to run wild under Granny Hina's watch. As a result, she brings down the hammer when implementing new rules - the girls are going to have to handle the property upkeep themselves since Keitaro won't be the manager and Haruka has her own business to run, Kitsune is told to either pay her rent on time or find a new place to live, and both Motoko and Naru are forced to reevaluate their distrust of men and learn to rein in their tempers so that some male carpenters can fix the damage Su's inventions have caused.
  • The Merry Killers shows what someone of Naru's strength could do if she punched someone other than Keitaro: her punch turns his head into a fine mist. Though in this story, she's a contract killer so it's fully intentional.
  • Several Love Hina stories have the girls get in trouble, often with the law, for assaulting someone they think is being perverted.
  • One story had Keitaro note that, despite what the girls accuse him of, he hasn't been getting erections during the various Crash-Into Hello moments. Whether he's crashing into them or they're falling on him, such situations are more painful than arousing.
  • The Magic Goes Away uses this very trope as its premise.
    • Kitsune's binge drinking leaves her with terrible migraines the following morning and significant weight gain. Similarly, her habit of flirting with men to get some money then dropping them is more dangerous with some not wanting to take "no" for an answer.
    • None of Su's inventions work and the few times she can get something running, the motor quickly burns out from the vast amount of power it's using.
    • Mutsumi's ditziness, random fainting spells, and general weakness fade, leaving her much healthier and more focused than before.
    • Naru's Megaton Punch disappears and since her primary form of stress relief is hitting something, her hand is continuously injured.
    • Shinobu stops being an Extreme Doormat and remembering the constant abuse her "beloved Sempai" has undergone causes her to start contemplating her rack of kitchen knives.
    • Motoko's attack on Keitaro breaks three of his ribs and damages his epidermis, hospitalizing him for almost three weeks. Subsequent injuries likewise take much longer to heal than his usual instant recovery.
    • The Hinata Inn sees far less damage since Su's machines don't work and no one is capable of sending Keitaro flying anymore, meaning he's no longer leaving holes in the roof and/or walls.
    • Both Naru and Motoko are arrested on different occasions for their Unprovoked Pervert Payback against Keitaro and (in Naru's case) a male nurse.
  • In Kid Keitaro, Naru and Mokoto's attitudes towards an 8-year-old Keitaro are met with disgust and (in one case) an Armor-Piercing Slap. Double Standard: Abuse, Female on Male may be amusing, but not when the male in question is a child.

     Lyrical Nanoha 

    Macross 
  • How Roid's Plan Could have Backfired Horribly is a series of one-shots making horrible fun of Roid's master plan by showing how things could have backfired on him, starting with the canon scene where Roid declares Windermere the heirs of Protoculture being interrupted by a Zentraedi Main Fleet wiping out the planet in the odd chance he was right faster than they could use the Song of the Wind to brainwash them (and also being prepared to deal with it).

    Mai-Otome/Mai-Hime 
  • In Oneesama, Shizuru giving a Skinship Grope to Natsuki is treated as sexual harassment by Miss Maria, who says Shizuru could be expelled if she felt it necessary. Thankfully, she's also a Reasonable Authority Figure, and decides on a punishment that forces Shizuru to humble herself and approach Natsuki as herself, rather than her persona as top Coral.
  • In Perfection Is Overrated, a handgun is significantly less powerful than most of the Himes' Elements or Childs, but it still has enough power to kill someone. Shizune, whose special ability made those of the Himes useless finds this out the hard way.

    Marvel Universe 
  • In My Grandson's Odd Family Peter Quill returns to Earth. When one of his cousins, obviously disbelieving him, asks him to correctly recall an event from thirty years prior, Peter fails, since, as it was unmemorable at the time and happened when he was a small child, he doesn't remember.
  • In The Amazing Spider-Man fics Extra Legs to Stand On and Ocelli, after the Lizard incident, Peter is questioned by the NYPD when they remember that he tried to warn them about Curt Connors which pushes him into the media spotlight. There's a jurisdictional fight between the NYPD, the CIA, Homeland Security, the NSA and SHIELD due to the Lizard's actions counting as domestic terrorism.
  • In The Hotline the high-school aged Peter Parker develops a deep-seated fear of the police due to the frequent Police Brutality he faces as Spider-Man. The Mayor of New York and the NYPD try to boost their terrible reputation and distract people from their Police Brutality by working with the increasingly popular Spider-Man and rescind their arrest warrant on him. Which doesn't work as Spider-Man doesn't trust them and many cops would rather see Spidey arrested or dead regardless of public opinion or orders by their higher ups.
  • In Children's Crusade when Kate Bishop refuses to stop superheroing when caught by the Avengers, they stop her...by calling her father and have her monitored by the reformed SHIELD. Which bites them in the ass as other young heroes such Spider-Man, Speed and Jonas Vision now refuse to have anything to do with the Avengers in fear that they will come after them and their families if they refuse to stop.
  • The Spanish fic Consecuencias shows what would happen if all superpowered individuals of Earth were killed, just like the Friends of Humanity would like:
  • Life In Reverse:
    • Loki is forced to consult a shrink when S.H.I.E.L.D. establishes he's emotionally volatile and as such a liability on missions.
    • The Avengers's reaction to Thor range from coldness to outright hostility, as someone they care about — Loki — is upset and frightened by the prospect of his arrival on Earth. Also, smashing windows is not a good way to prove you're not threatening someone.
    • Removed from Asgard and Thor's shadow, Loki discovers — with not a small amount of surprise — that not everyone holds Thor as a paragon and living embodiment of greatness. It starts with Clint outright dismissing the appeal of wielding Mjolnir, as he doesn't see a way to fit this power with his skillset. Than you have the Avengers being cold with Thor and worrying about Loki: they may have heard about Thor, but they know Loki and quite like him, which means they are not going to abandon the trickster for his brother when the latter shows himself.
    • In the very first chapter, Coulson introduces himself as S.H.I.E.L.D.'s contact to Loki by taking an appointment with his landlady and the god tartly remarks S.H.I.E.L.D. should have used the civilized approach first: kidnapping attempts kinda send the wrong message, and Loki shows a good amount of mistrust towards the organization even after being accepted as an agent.
  • A majority of Team Iron Man fics have Tony forgive Bucky Barnes for killing his parents. Why? Because intellectually, Tony knows that Bucky was brainwashed, and therefore cannot be held accountable (at least, not completely). The reason he reacted as he did in Siberia was because he literally just found out that not only were his parents murdered, and not in a car accident like he'd always believed, but that Steve had known about it and kept it from him for years. Had he been told sooner, and had time to process the information, the fight in Siberia probably wouldn't have happened. It also helps that Tony doesn't know Bucky personally, whereas Steve had been his friend and teammate for years, making his betrayal hurt all the more.
  • Conversely, a number of Team Cap fics make it clear that, despite how he spoke in Siberia, Steve didn't know that it was Bucky that killed Tony's parents. While he knew that HYDRA had them assassinated, he didn't know it was the Winter Soldier specifically who did it. Steve suspected Bucky might have been responsible, but with the sheer number of hitmen HYDRA had at their disposal he had no way to narrow it down specifically. What he was referring to in Siberia was the fact that Tony's parents were assassinated at all, which he knew from Zola, and despite the fact that he should've told Tony as soon as he knew, between the sheer amount of chaos brought about by him having to stop Project Insight, Ultron and the Civil War, he simply never got around to telling him.
  • Second Chances Series:
    • In the aftermath of Captain America: Civil War, Tony Stark suffers from PTSD after nearly being killed by one of his friends and required multiple surgeries (including implanting an artificial sternum) to fully recover from his injuries. Seeing his dead parents suddenly alive again ends up triggering a panic attack.
    • When trying to confirm his parents' identity, Tony doesn't trust a fingerprint scan as SHIELD had a record of them, meaning HYDRA did too. When he asks what he wanted for his seventh birthday, Howard responds that he can't remember as it was ten years ago.
    • When finally caught and tried, Natasha gets far less sympathy than any of the other members of "Team Captain America". Scott, Sam, and Bucky were all apologetic with the latter clearly not having been in his right mind while Steve was trying to protect a friend and Wanda wanted revenge on the man she held responsible for her family's deaths. Natasha shows only cold detachment and apathy towards the lives she destroyed.
    • Bucky Barnes is the only member of "Team Captain America" to avoid prison time but instead is sentenced to nine years in a psychiatric facility. He's not held responsible for his actions as the Winter Soldier due to the extenuating circumstances of his torture and brainwashing, and it's made clear that he had very little idea of what was happening during the Civil War. That he's a mentally ill World War II veteran and former POW only garner him more sympathy.
    • When Wakanda helps prepare for the expected invasion by Thanos and his forces, their contributions are considerably less than some might expect. While the nation is extremely technologically advanced, all of their technology runs on vibranium which they are running out of as centuries of mining have exhausted the meteor that originally struck their nation.
  • The fanfic The Party shows the tragic and fatal consequences of Tony going to his crowded birthday party drunk and in his Iron Man Suit, and fighting Rhodey in Iron Man 2, with multiple people dying as a result.
  • Self-Insert Michael McCole in A Twelve Step Program to Omnipotence manages to gain both the Hulk's powers and Extremis. But when he tells his Mad Scientist Samuel Sterns he wants his skeleton coated with vibranium, he's told it's not doable. Even if the surgery could be performed without immediately killing him, and that's a big if, he'd die from strangling his bone marrow. And if that didn't kill him, his body's extreme internal temperature makes it likely the vibranium would melt inside him, rending the whole process meaningless.
  • Because he's the only Avenger willing to deal with the media, Tony Stark becomes the face of the Avengers in The War Is Far from Over Now, which also ties his company to the Avengers. As a result, the events of each film are nightmares for Stark Industries legal and PR departments, especially with the various Avengers not helping at best and actively making things worse at worst.
    • Vision was only "alive" for an hour before getting thrown into battle against Ultron and his Chitauri, making him far less effective than he should be due to having only limited understanding of what his powers are or how they worknote .
    • Despite some of the Avengers treating the two as functionally interchangeable, from a political perspective, War Machine and Iron Man are almost complete opposites. Tony Stark is one of the bigwigs (and former CEO) of one of the biggest multinational companies on the planet and a private citizen so he can often enter foreign countries if for no other reason than Stark Industries having holdings there. In such cases, he can use Plausible Deniability to claim he had his Iron Man armor in case of emergency and just happened to end up using it. James Rhodes, however, is a colonel in the United States Air Force and his War Machine armor is considered a military asset. If he enters a foreign country in his armor without authorization, it's technically an act of war, just the same as if he flew a fighter jet in and started blowing things up in a fight. As a result, there's a lot of paperwork involved in non-emergency deployments for Rhodey and emergency deployments have almost as much paperwork, just with most of it done afterwards.
    • In the tie-in story From the Other Side, many former SHIELD agents end up suffering from PTSD after being captured and interrogated by HYDRA and other enemy agencies due to Natasha dumping all of SHIELD's files online. While some of the agents who don't return to SHIELD do so out of bitterness, others are just too traumatized to carry on being secret agents.
    • Wakanda's isolationism means they don't have extradition treaties set up with any other country. So when T'Challa demands Wakanda have justice for T'Chaka's coma, Tony informs him that the rest of the world doesn't really care what a poor third world country wants.
    • After delivering a No-Holds-Barred Beatdown to Steve and Bucky in Siberia, Tony regrets taking things as far as he did, particularly with Bucky whom he knows isn't truly responsible for killing his parents.
  • Enough Rope:
    • Despite Ross being a major Jerkass, Tony still has to play nice with him due to the man's position.
    • Spending hours semi-conscious in an abandoned Siberian bunker in a suit with no power leaves Tony badly frost bitten, to the extent his fingertips have to be amputated.
    • When Wanda makes a remark about an interviewer asking Tony questions he doesn't want to answer, Scott informs her that interviews don't work like that. Both parties meet up before hand to negotiate which questions can and cannot be asked and while some reporters might try to ask some unapproved questions, they know better than to try with Tony Stark who's not only rich and powerful, but is known to walk out on interviews if someone does.
    • Brian Braddock carelessly uses the same phone for both his hero and civilian identity so quite a number of people knew he's Captain Britain, though MI13 kept his enemies from learning it.
    • Bodycams make it harder for both sides of an argument to falsify things. While various governments could string footage together to make heroes look bad, the heroes have their own copy to offer as counter-evidence. Likewise, heroes might be protected against false accusations, but still have to watch their behavior since everything they do as heroes is being recorded at all times.
    • While it is serious Paranoia Fuel, the fact that in this story Wanda sometimes messed with people's minds on accident is great news for Scott's and Clint's court case as it massively strengthens their defense if it can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that they were completely in their right minds during the battle at the Berlin airport.
    • Wanda being Easily Forgiven is torn apart by Laura Barton in argument with her husband, who points out that in actuality at least 3 Avengers (Tony, Bruce, and Clint himself) all were actively angry with her or at least were squeamish around her. She also points that Wanda's abilities made her a much bigger threat of manipulating the team than Tony.
    • The whole fic intends to apply realistic geopolitical and political concerns to the events of Civil War. For one thing, General Ross is not presented as the untouchable force he was in the film (with it even noted in the intro notes that other countries' leaders wouldn't be enthusiastic about a warhawk American being granted so much authority, especially not one like Ross who's got several known abuses of power on his track record). The Avengers besides Tony and Natasha not knowing about the Accords is addressed by them not following politics around them, since such a large and complex arrangement WOULD be discussed long enough for news to have trickled down beforehand. Other countries don't appreciate having vigilantes smashing around their property regardless of whether said vigilantes are doing "what's right."
  • What If:
    • Wanda's habit of peeking into other's minds comes back to bite her when she uses her powers on Melinda May in South Africa. Since Melinda's fear is having to kill a child again, she hallucinates shooting Wanda, who feels the gunshot due to being in Melinda's mind at the time. The result is both trying desperately to prevent Wanda's death from a gunshot wound that doesn't exist.
    • When T'Challa brings Everett Ross to Shuri, asking if she can save him, she reminds her brother that she is a sixteen year old engineer who revolutionized their mining industry, when would she have time to study surgery. Instead she calls up a friend who is a surgeon.
  • Don't come crawling back to me has Captain America with allies' presence in Wakanda revealed by a member of T'Challa's court, who posted the info on Facebook. King or not, not everyone in Wakanda is going to accept the presence of not just foreigners but fugitives only on T'Challa's sayso.
  • Nobody's Heroes
    • Sam Wilson goes to one of Wakanda scientists to get his wings fixed and he's told that not only will it be three months before it can be worked on, but it'll cost roughly $15,000 to do so. Not only is said scientist too busy with more important things to do it earlier, but the wings are very sophisticated and will need expensive materials to fix.
    • Wanda's full role in the events of Age of Ultron is exposed to the public via Wiki Leaks. This leads to her name being cursed (to the point that her homeland revokes her citizenship), Tony's being vindicated (at least to a point), and T'Challa placing her under house arrest.
    • General Ross is discharged for his antics instead of getting away with it all. It's pointed out that he had no actual authority over Stark and had no position in the UN to interfere with its going-ons how the movie said or implied he did. Everett realizes that Ross' scheming risk to ruin America's standing among other countries considering how displeased the UN Security Council AND the White House were once they learned about Ross' actions.
    • Unlike some stories where characters casually read and understand the Accords, Scott Lang needs the help of a local lawyer (who specializes in constitutional law) to make sense of the document, which is almost two thousand pages long and filled with technical terms.
  • In Uncompromising Principles, the amount of force taken to destroy the arc reactor in Tony's suit is such that his ribs are badly broken. Tony ends up dying from collapsed lungs before he can be rescued.
    • Unlike some stories, where Steve sticks to his guns no matter what, upon learning he accidentally killed Tony, Steve is absolutely horrified and leaves Wakanda to turn himself in.
    • While T'Challa agrees to shelter Captain America and his allies, he makes it clear that he has no intention of letting them commit a PR disaster that'll bounce back on Wakandan soil. He bluntly tells them that if they leave the country and continue to defy the law, they will be no longer welcome in Wakanda. He also says that while he did aid them, he doesn't reject the Accords and that he merely opposed Ross' abuses.
  • Set an Example shows that giving the rogue Avengers pardons in exchange for fighting Thanos sets a dangerous precedent. Many mob enforcers, supervillains, and more get out of prison on the same deal due to their (much better) lawyers arguing that if the situation really is so dire as to let international terrorists go free in order to improve Earth's odds of survival, then others with similar capabilities should be offered the same chance.
  • At the start of Wake Up, Princess, Tony Stark announces that he's been forced to retire as Iron Man. His fight against Captain America and the Winter Soldier shattered his ribs and even after they've fully healed, his ribcage isn't nearly as strong as it should be and can no longer handle the strain of piloting the Iron Man armor.
    • Scott running off to help Captain America has negative consequences for him. He is told that he's fired from his job and that contrary to Steve's assumption that Tony arranged it, it was all Dr. Pym's doing (making it obvious he isn't happy about Scott's actions).
    • Nick Fury chews out Captain America for his actions, pointing out the obvious problem with Steve' attitude in that it disregards the geopolitical issues of having a largely American force of superheroes trampling around the world, that his actions have only succeeded in convincing enough politicians and civilians that the Accords are needed since Steve's posse have shown them they can't be trusted to operate unsupervised, and that his actions will impact other superpowered men and women. He's told by Phil that he's been disavowed by the US military and that since he's ultimately a private citizen he's open to getting held accountable for his antics, via foreign governments hounding him or by way of lawsuits.
  • According to Rhodey in To Intervene, when Steve and Natasha burned SHIELD, they didn't just hurt HYDRA and SHIELD. SHIELD had files on every US intelligence agency which resulted in countless agents being captured on foreign soil and even years later, most of them still haven't been released.
    • The Sokovia Accords affect every super, not just the Avengers. Tony spends months reaching out to every enhanced individual and organization he can find all over the world in order to get their input on things. The way things are shaping up, so many enhanced will be involved that the opinions of the Avengers will be largely irrelevant.
    • After the Avengers admit they didn't bother staying informed about a deal to put them under the jurisdiction of the DIA, Natasha is informed that her idea of scrapping the deal and starting over isn't feasible because the DIA would have no reason to believe they'd honor a new deal after scrapping the old one without even trying to make it work.
    • Once the Avengers are put under the DIA's jurisdiction, they quickly notice Steve and the others traversing all over Europe looking for Bucky and promptly lock the Quinjet so it requires a mission authorization code to start. Like any business, the DIA doesn't allow employees to use company assets for personal reasons, regardless of who they are.
    • Tony starts getting therapy from Charles Xavier to help with his PTSD. Unfortunately, because Tony's solution for the past several years was to repress everything, he's initially more prone to episodes as he learns to cope.
  • In Balance, after learning that Bruce can't turn into the Hulk anymore, Rhodey has him help Shuri and Dr. Cho with treating Vision rather than put him on the front lines in an Iron Man armor, citing that he'd be more useful healing Vision.
  • Calling You Out!
    • In prompt 14, T'Challa is arrested in Korea for his destruction of private property and because he broke the Sokovia Accords which he just signed less than two weeks prior. Ross also informs him Okoye got shot when she climbed on top of Nakia's car while Nakia has a concussion and road burn from Klaue blowing up said car.
    • In prompt 28, Scott Lang is arrested during the events of Ant-Man and charged with (among other things) Aggravated Theft and Corporate Espionage by Stark Industries. After Scott got away, Falcon reported the theft at the Avenger's Compound. Once it comes out why Scott stole from the compound and for whom, Hope and Hank are arrested as well. While the charges against Hope are dropped and Scott gets a plea deal since he wanted to call the Avengers in, Hank goes to prison since his justification amounts to hating the Stark name.
    • In prompt 33, Everett Ross is suspended pending a review of every arrest he's made due to his claim that Bucky wouldn't be getting a lawyer after his arrest in Bucharest. Even though he was lying and merely voicing his opinion that Bucky shouldn't get a lawyer, claiming an intention to violate someone's rights is not permitted by any law enforcement agency. Likewise, despite Sharon Carter bringing said claim to the head of the CIA's attention, she's still investigated under suspicion of having stolen Falcon's and Captain America's confiscated gear.
    • In a bonus prompt, Ivan Vanko dies early in Iron Man 2 when one of the other cars comes around the turn and crashes into him while he confronts Tony.
  • I Hope You Have Unlimited Text Messaging:
    • Steve keeping the secret about the deaths of Tony's parents was largely unintentional, as Tony comes to realize long after he had forgiven Steve for it. Steve learned about the situation while in the middle of the crisis and dwelling on it wouldn't change the fact that Howard and Maria were dead. Tony himself wouldn't have had much of a reaction to it either aside from sharing Steve's burning hatred for HYDRA, as his parents have been dead for years and he's long-since moved on from their deaths. As it wasn't really going to change much in the long run, Steve just never got around to telling him since there were more important things going on.
    • Also, Steve legitimately did not know whether or not Bucky was responsible. HYDRA has more than one assassin after all. He suspected, but he didn't know for sure until Zemo showed the video to them in Siberia. This is even more justified when he and Tony learn about Howard's prior assassination attempts (nine in total), which were all perpetrated by HYDRA's other assassins. HYDRA didn't break out the Winter Soldier until they knew they couldn't leave Howard alive any longer — most likely because of the possibility of Howard recognizing him and breaking his programming.
      • Howard's own previous assassination attempts are a case of this. As a founder of S.H.I.E.L.D. and revolutionary inventor and industrialist, it was unlikely to begin with that the Winter Soldier was his first assassination attempt (last and successful, sure, but first?). In fact, it's more surprising that all the previous attempts were orchestrated by HYDRA and not other parties who had just as much reason to want Howard dead.
    • The Sokovia Accords were conceived of and written when it was believed that the Avengers and a few select others were the only enhanced people on the planet. Thus, the sudden population explosion of Inhumans thanks to indirect exposure to the Terrigen Mists is something the Accords aren't prepared to deal with, and many are trying to take advantage of the situation to either exterminate enhanced humans or to weaponize them. This situation validates Steve's fear about the Accords being abused by those in positions of power, and a running subplot of the fic is Tony's attempts to fix the situation by trying to lobby for the Accords to be amended. This situation is also why, unlike canon, Tony outright refuses to have Peter reveal his identity, because, as a minor, it's still unclear whether the Accords should apply to him or not yet, even if he is an Avenger.
    • Ross starts having his men stalk Laura Barton in hopes of fishing out the whereabouts of the rogue Avengers. As Tony and Steve both lampshade, there is no way in hell that is anywhere near the State Department's jurisdiction. Thus, when he finally does pick up (read: kidnap) Laura, Tony has his team of lawyers rip him and the DOS to pieces to get her back, which takes only a couple of days. It's also noted that enforcing the Accords aren't under the DOS's jurisdiction either, only negotiating them and making sure they're legal under the provisions of the Constitution and any other U.S. laws. Ross actively seeking out the rogue Avengers falls squarely under the latter; ultimately, it's one of the nails that leads to his forced resignation in the latter half of the story.
  • Desire Written in Olive
    • Even though Wanda knows Tony is marrying her to keep people from realizing what she did in Sokovia (particularly that she's former HYDRA), it takes several months before the two aren't at each other's throats and a couple years for anything approaching love to develop between them.
    • Growing yourself to giant size when you've only done it once in a lab and passed out immediately? Bad idea. Scott is fine for a short period but quickly collapses and the following chapter reveals the damage to his body is extensive enough it's unlikely he'll ever walk again.
  • The Spider
    • Marvel Girl decides to go superheroing with almost zero training and is nearly killed by an attack from behind because she has no fighting experience and didn't realize her attacker wasn't unconscious yet. Peter tells her both as a civilian and as Spider-man that she needs more training in both her powers and hand to hand combat before she can act as a superhero.
    • Despite what Peter feared, SHIELD wasn't aware of Black Cat's identity, with Natasha mentioning that they don't have the resources to track down every thief and criminal who isn't a terrorist threat.
  • In Tony Stark Never Gave the Avengers Starkphones, when Steve calls Clint about Tony imprisoning Wanda, Clint first calls Wanda and Natasha to ask them about the situation, citing that it makes no sense for Tony to imprison Wanda nor for Steve to call Clint who's retired rather than one of the other Avengers. After learning what's going on, Clint advises Wanda to lay low until things blow over.
  • To Trope or Not to Trope tackles various tropes for Team Iron Man and Anti Captain America fics, showing different outcomes from what is usually shown in the fics if the characters besides Tony were more in character.
  • Many of the snippets have Tony being called out for what amounts to blackmailing, and kidnapping a 15 year old teenager to fight in a battle in a different country as a Child Soldier.
  • In one snippet Ultron tells the Avengers that Wanda is more responsible for his creation than Tony is. Clint notes that they have no reason to believe a murderous robot.
  • A few snippets have Tony making a pass at Peter, a 15 year old. Peter's typical reactions are terror and disgust that an older man was lusting after him.
  • Rather than unilaterally support him as per the plot of Team Iron Man stories, various canon characters like Phil Coulson, Sharon Carter, Jane Foster, Betty Ross and the Guardians of the Galaxy instead have more in-character reactions to the Sokovia Accords.
  • In stark contrast to a number of Team Iron Man-aligned stories, Tony proves incapable of singlehandedly defeating threats like Thanos, resulting in his death rather than the lopsided victory those stories like to portray.
    • Which is subverted in some cases, the chapter where Thanos defeats him is quickly followed up with one where the rest of the Avengers show up just in time to save Tony, teaching him the value of teamwork.
  • Tony’s attempts to arrange a meeting with the U.N. to discuss amendments to the Accords go ignored, as they were already satisfied with the ratified document. Trying to amend a document after it has been ratified and Tony had already signed it, has little results.
  • A number of the fics have Tony try to put the blame on Wanda for influencing him to create Ultron. Wanda counters by pointing out that Tony had been working on Ultron for a long time before the Avengers hit Strucker's base, and he clearly wasn't under Wanda's influence when he convinced Bruce to use the scepter. The fact that Ultron also quoted something Tony said when he was buying the vibranium from Ulysses Klaue also makes him entirely Tony's creation. (In one of them, it's established that Wanda doesn't blame Tony for killing her parents. She blames his company for manufacturing the bombs that the United States military and NATO used to carpet bomb Sokovia)
  • A few fics have Tony facing legal consequences for violating the Accords to travel to Siberia.
  • Not What I Had In Mind:
    • The Avengers destroying Hydra bases along with all of their technology and research means the authorities have nothing to charge the terrorists with and are forced to release them
    • Several people make clear that eradicating terrorism is impossible. Even if you kill every member of a terrorist organization, destroy all their resources, and publically denounce them, someone will read about the organization, agree with their ideals, and seek to spread said ideals through violent means. As Steve Rogers's lawyer summarizes: terrorism is an idea taken to criminally violent extremes and you can't kill an idea.
    • When Sam, Clint, Nat, and Steve are arrested in Romania, Tony mentions how ludicrously difficult it will be to find an unbiased jury for their trials since their actions both in saving the world from the Chitauri and in destroying a great deal of Romanian property while fighting Hydra means most will have a bias either for or against them.
  • In Counsel, Aunt May calls Matt Murdock about the Sokovia Accords pertaining to her nephew and to see about pressing charges against Tony Stark. Matt tells her to wait at the moment until Peter is a legal adult or until the Sokovia Accords are either revoked or revised. Since Peter is a minor it will get out he is Spider-Man if she reports it now and there are no statute of limitations for kidnapping a minor to another country.
  • Miriam Sharpe in It Wasn't Him remarks how learning that Wanda is the one who caused the Hulk's attack on Johannesburg didn't make the people living there hate the Hulk any less; instead they now hate Wanda as well as the Hulk. Knowing someone wasn't in their right mind when they destroyed your home and killed your loved ones doesn't change how you feel emotionally, at least not right away.
  • born of hell('s kitchen):
    • In this fic, Peter Parker is an adopted child. He often wondered why his birth mother didn't want him, then the Parkers died in a car crash, then his Aunt May falls sick and die, which left him deep anxiety about Parental Abandonment. When his birth parents managed to obtain his custody back, Peter is still extremely insecure about their love for him, being physically clingy and trying to hide anything they might find distasteful (such as his growing superpowers).
    • Jessica and Matt have to work on their issues to be considered suitable parents for their son. To Matt, it means stopping being Daredevil unless for emergencies as juggling vigilantism, lawyering and caring for an emotionally needy child would only lead him to crash and burn, so he has to prioritize. To Jess, it means finally going cold turkey on the alcohol and buying a new flat instead of sleeping in her work office which crazy people can break into. They're still rather stressed and unsure of their success in spite of their efforts.
    • When Jessica argues nobody will give her Peter back if she tries to explain that Kilgrave mind-controlled her into abandoning him, Foggy merely presses for her to insist it was under duress, and that she had very good reasons to fear Kilgrave would hurt her baby. Dismissing Mind Rape accusations is logical, dismissing concerns of child abuse is much more difficult.
  • In End Run, when the fugitive Avengers mention that President Ellis has granted them all pardons for their actions in the "Civil War", Tony points out that said pardons are largely irrelevant as only Wanda broke any significant laws in the United States. For everyone else, their crimes were committed in Europe, Africa, and Russia, which the president has no jurisdiction over. And while they were pardoned for past crimes, they're still trespassing on private property.
  • Passion and Justice:
    • When Shuri tries to help T'Challa by negotiating with the United Nations in his stead, she's told in no uncertain terms that as a minor, her word and her signature are not considered legally binding, meaning she can't negotiate with foreign powers on Wakanda's behalf.
    • Tony points out that while Wakanda has the vast majority of Vibranium in the world, a meteor striking Earth would cause fragments to be spread far and wide. The chunk that became Captain America's shield in World War II was found on a beach in Greece.
  • A number of fics, such as One National Hero to Another and Passion and Justice mentioned above, point out that many scientists would take a rather dim view of Wakandan scientists over the fact they never submit any research for peer review. Not only is non-reviewed work seen as less official, but it paints them as taking from the rest of the scientific community without giving anything back.
  • Realpolitk 101:
    • Much like Passion and Justice above brings up Shuri's status as a minor as a concern as to whether her word is legally binding. Another point raised is that Shuri intended to be the sole Wakandan scientist on the team created to integrate Wakandan technology with the rest of the world. Even if she could spare the time as princess of a nation, the project is so massive that it's projected to require 126 hours a week to finish in a reasonable time frame, meaning each faction needs to contribute a team of scientists.
    • As many Sokovians note, Sokovia was not destroyed by Ultron; only the city of Novi Grad was destroyed. The president of Sokovia notes that such claims are like declaring that the United States was destroyed because someone blew up Kansas City, Missouri.
    • While Sokovia was locked in a civil war for over twenty years, HYDRA mostly kept the fighting out of Novi Grad (where they had their base) as while the war helped them get a foothold in the country, they still couldn't worry about being randomly bombed while they worked.
  • In Breach in Security, the Avengers Compound has several security cameras and caught Scott's break-in. Within hours, his face is plastered all over the news while Tony and the FBI try to figure out what exactly he stole and what he intends to use it for.
  • Turning Tables:
    • Natasha starts an organization trying to help take in the massive spike in orphans caused when their parents turned to dust in the snap.
    • When it becomes public knowledge that Peter has essentially become an heir to Stark's tech empire, people in espionage circles would find him to be a person of interest and would start to target him, one such person infiltrating his school as a teacher to try and steal EDITH.
    • Even in the wake of a tragedy as massive as half of all life disappearing, eventually the world and the governments that run it begin to adjust and return to full-functionality, Natasha revealing that the Sokovia Accords are going to be renewed and Peter will have to decide whether to out his Secret Identity publicly and work for the United Nations as Spider-Man or retire the superhero life permanently.
  • Entitlement: Unlike the other "rogue Avengers", Natasha isn't eligible for a pardon as she'd already signed and violated the Sokovia Accords, whereas the others had to sign the revised Accords as part of their pardon. When Natasha shows up looking for her pardon, she's instead arrested.
  • Of Luck and Lack of Forethought:
    • In chapter 1, Tony withholding from his friends that he was dying of palladium poisoning causes a lot of yelling and tears all around. Even when he gets to work fixing it, they still resolve to keep an eye on him, such as Rhodey "suddenly" having a month's leave from the Air Force to stay with Tony. Furthermore, reviving the Stark Expo involved going over previous expos, causing Tony to notice the theoretical element model his father hid in the expos' model.
    • In chapter 2, despite many assuming otherwisenote , Tony doesn't house the Avengers in Stark Tower, citing that every floor was already earmarked for use, whether it be living space of Stark Industries employees, laboratories, or just plain office space. Tony even lampshades that people don't design buildings with "extra room" in mind.
    • In chapter 4, Clint and Bruce each face legal action for their actions while mind controlled by Loki and Wanda respectively, with their lawyers remarking how mind reading has long since been proven but mind control is near impossible to prove one way or another. While Steve manages to prove mind control exists with Wanda's help, he's then informed that while the cases against Clint and Bruce are being dropped, South Africa is now charging Wanda for triggering the Hulk, and that Steve can either prove mind control exists and exonerate Clint and Bruce or prove it doesn't and exonerate Wanda.
  • In erik stevens, prince of wakanda, losing his dad to murder and having to move in another country immediately after the loss makes for a very disruptive, unruly child as Erik tries to cope. He considerably calms down through the years and his paternal family's help, but he never truly forgives his uncle for orphaning him, something he admits to his aunt after T'Chaka's death.
    • An infamously isolationist country will have its reserves regarding an outsider integrating; even though Erik was brought to Wakanda as a preteen and was slowly accepted by the majority as a true member of the royal family, the Jabari tribe still mistrusts him and blatantly calls him "outsider" to his face.
  • You Need More Than Rich Parents To Intern Here: Flash Thompson, as he usually is in field trip to Stark Industries fics, is more of a physical bully than a snobbish jerk like he is in MCU Canon and physically confronts Peter on his supposed lies of being a Stark intern while on a tour. He is caught by an employee who gets him into trouble and kicked off the trip amongst other things. Even if the employee hadn’t recognised Peter as Tony Stark’s intern, physically bullying another student while on a field trip would get him noticed and into trouble with security.
  • Whole Shards
    • Winter’s withdrawal from addiction leaves him shaky and weak, and he’s unable to handle solid food at first because HYDRA always fed him with tubes.
    • Sam is kind, loyal and supportive to both Steve and Winter, but there are times when he needs someone to be there for him too.
    • Steve and Sam don’t know about Winter’s trigger words, so when Crossbones starts speaking them they don’t know what it means until it’s too late.
  • The Alternate Timeline is set in the 2012 alternate timeline from Avengers: Endgame and deals with the repercussions of the time travel, such as the alternate versions of Tony and Steve learning of HYDRA’s existence within SHIELD.
    • When the series begins, Steve and Tony have no way of knowing who is and who isn’t HYDRA. In fact, for all they know, their fellow Avengers could be HYDRA.
    • Bucky's metal arm causes strain for his muscles; as a result, he is in constant pain. Tony offers to make a new one for him, but it won't be for a while because Bucky isn't in the right frame of mind to properly consent to it.
    • Tony knows Bucky isn't truly responsible for killing his parents, and is aghast at what he's been put through. However, he finds it difficult to be around him and for a long time, he can't bring himself to call Bucky by his first name.

Daredevil (2015)

  • The fanfic What They Wouldn't Do shows off how Matt Murdock's double life as Daredevil greatly affects all aspects of his life, especially his love life.
    • Matt is incredibly paranoid after Sarah Corrigan, a young secretary at one of Fisk's former shell companies, figures out by pure coincidence that he's Daredevil. Matt has to take great pains up to and including some intimidation because if the NYPD learns that Matt is Daredevil, he'll likely get arrested, charged, and disbarred, and then thrown in jail along with many of the crooks he's taken down, meaning he'd likely risk being killed in retaliation pretty quickly. Foggy will likely be disbarred too since there's no way the police wouldn't think he was oblivious to Matt's activities. Claire and Karen would likely be investigated to no end. And Sarah works at a shady company that used to be run by Fisk, so any slip-up there means a whole platitude of violent crooks being sent after them.
    • It's established that Karen has become somewhat paranoid after killing James Wesley. Her face turns pale when she finds a photo of Wesley's body in Sarah's purse and she later mentions keeping tabs on the police investigation into his death.
    • The reason Sarah ended up in Fisk's hooks to begin with. Her father owed a lot of money in gambling debts to a bookie in Fisk's pocket. When he missed payments due to his senility, the bookie sent thugs to put him in the hospital. Afterwards, James Wesley personally visited Sarah and coerced her into a job at Orion to repay her father's debts. While half her salary ostensibly goes towards the unpaid debt, Sarah suspects that Fisk's people don't really care about the money so much as they care about being able to control her.
    • After the initial visit from Wesley, Sarah tried to go to the police, unaware that there were crooked cops on Fisk's payroll. The desk officer warned her not to come back lest she wanted to get herself killed. Even after Fisk is arrested and thrown in prison, Sarah still doesn't trust the police because there's no way to know if the FBI sweep missed a few corrupt cops. Turns out some of the crooked cops are still working for the guys who run Fisk's former shell companies.
  • The fanfic Murdock & Knight sees Matt have a rivalry with a new character, 15th precinct detective Riley Knight (similar to but no relation to Misty Knight) during the period after Fisk's arrest. At the start, Riley is shown to be disillusioned with the "Welcome to the 15th Precinct, the Pride of Hell's Kitchen" banner at the front desk in light of practically half the 15th precinct's cops being found to be in Fisk's pockets (she's also one of the cops who got shot by the sniper that shot Detective Blake). Early on, Matt is hesitant to trust Riley, as he's pretty sure that some of the bent cops in Fisk's pockets covered their tracks and minimized their involvement. It's also mentioned that one of the corrupt cops was the precinct's very lenient Captain, who has now been replaced by a strict no-nonsense guy with no tolerance for cops like Riley who disobey orders or step out of line.
  • The oneshot Every Single One of Us provides an extension of the final scene in season 2, when Matt confesses his secret identity to Karen. While Karen's more forgiving than Foggy, she's quick to point out that a lot of the strain Matt's double identity had on his relationship with Foggy stems from the way events in his double life caused him to miss work or be late for important meetings (like during the Castle trial) without calling ahead. While Karen merely thought Matt was hung overnote  Foggy had to fear that his best friend had gotten hurt or killed.
  • A different take on Karen's reaction, Better - Now depicts Karen having a mixed reaction, something that's not exactly a reaction of love but not one of anger, deconstructing The Reveal Prompts Romance.
  • Most pre-season 3 takes on how Karen discloses to Matt that she killed James Wesley have to work around this, especially those that take place after the events of season 2. During Frank Castle's trial, there was a scene where Karen was at Matt's apartment discussing whether or not Frank's deadly methods of vigilantism were acceptable, and Matt gave Karen the impression that he thought killing people was absolutely wrong. Karen is surprised that Matt finds it okay that she killed Wesley, and he has to clarify that he doesn't think badly of her for it because she felt guilt and remorse over her actions, not to mention that Wesley had forced her hand; this compared to Frank Castle, whose decision to kill people wasn't because he had no other choice, but because he didn’t care about that choice or the consequences that came from it.
  • All I want is someone to believe pointsout that a lot of stuff happened to Matt and Karen individually in the last four episodes of season 2 after they've stopped talking to each other, so neither of them knows just what the other has been going through. Karen, in particular, in the span of the last four episodes 1) got shot at in Reyes' office, 2) got shot at again in her apartment, 3) witnessed Frank Castle brutally kill two of the Blacksmith's men at the diner, 4) got held at gunpoint by Colonel Schoonover, Frank crashed a truck into her car (leaving her injured), then killed Schoonover despite Karen begging him to spare him and turn him over to the police, and 5) she got kidnapped by the Hand, witnessed them kill one of the hostages on the bus, and got a gun pointed at her head for talking to Turk Barrett. As a result of this, Karen is not sleeping well, jumps at every unexpected sound, and what little rest she does manage to get is punctuated by nightmares. During the conversation, she hears audible cracks and scampers into the conference room in fear, and Matt has to assure her that it was just someone throwing trash into a dumpster.
  • So You Want to Be an Artist:
    • It didn't take much effort for Karen to figure out Matt was Daredevil. Her suspicions about the true causes of his injuries caused her to notice a correspondence between Daredevil sightings and Matt's absences and injuries. However, since (like most people) the idea of a blind guy being a vigilante is pretty hard to believe, she tried to think of other rational explanations...until the Hand kidnapped her. When Matt rescued the hostages and checked if she was okay, she knew it was him because she recognized the familiar shape of his jawline. Additionally, it turns out that the head injuries Matt sustains at night slipped into his daily work, with Karen having to go back in and correct his mistakes.
    • While Foggy may never have thought highly of Elektra, he is genuinely sorry when Matt informs him that she died.
    • Matt's sense of smell isn't always perfect. For instance, when Karen shows up at Matt's apartment to rope him into sculpting, she brings along a bottle of tequila to get Matt in the mood, but Matt thinks it's a bottle of whiskey until she uncaps it.
    • As he's often punching criminals and works with clay, Matt finds his hands are solicited to the point they start to hurt.
    • The work deconstructs Vanessa Marianna's relationship to Wilson Fisk. Fisk sent her overseas to stash her away before he got caught, but while on her own, she realized that she'd deceived herself thinking Fisk had good intentions. When Vanessa tried to leave Fisk, he threatened her family.
    • The knowledge that so many gifted people have ties to Hogarth, Chao & Benowitz leads Matt to remark to Foggy that he's distrustful of Jeri Hogarth.
  • Love Me, or Leave Me, or Rip Me Apart: In his new job at HC&B, Foggy is scheduled to defend a child psychologist on trial for possession of child pornography, but who is also believed to have molested a number of boys. Thing is, it turns out Matt is one of those this guy molested. The knowledge that Matt was among those infuriates everyone in Foggy's circle and they all give him a piece of their mind: Brett, Karen, and even Marci Stahl give him profanity-laden tirades. Matt does eventually decide to testify, and while the guy walks with a hung jury, Matt's courage gets other victims to speak up (unfortunately, the guy hangs himself in jail before he can stand trial on these new charges).
  • Marci Stahl Is Better Than You:
    • Marci may have escaped disbarment by informing on her colleagues, but her association with Landman & Zack, and Wilson Fisk in turn, means no law firms are interested in hiring her, forcing her to get a job as a contract attorney at Nelson & Murdock as a stopgap until she can find better employment.
    • "Friends" Rent Control doesn't apply. Without her job, Marci has to move to an apartment in Queens since Manhattan's rent prices are beyond what she can afford.
    • Marci oh-so-innocently asks Karen if she's slept with Foggy or Matt. Karen takes offense, while Foggy has to set her straight that not everyone likes to talk openly about their sex lives:
      Foggy Nelson: What did you do to Karen?
      Marci Stahl: I didn’t do anything.
      Foggy Nelson: If by nothing, you mean something to make her hate you.
      Marci Stahl: Fine. Is asking if she slept with you something?
      Foggy Nelson: I don’t often find myself giving advice about appropriate social interaction. It’s novel. In the future, you might not want to ask employees you barely know about their sexual history. Well, not just employees. Pretty much all people.
      Marci Stahl: All boring people. Did you seriously not sleep with her? Because I can’t figure out why else she’d hate me.
      Foggy Nelson: Okay, not sure where to start with this one: One, your concept of female relationships is disturbingly limited. Two, no, we didn’t sleep together. And three, not everyone likes to discuss their sexual conquests the way you do. I’m not saying you’re wrong to like it, just that you’re wrong if you expect random co-workers to like it.
    • After Marci seemingly figures out Matt's secret and tries to confront Foggy about it, Matt decides to pay Marci a visit as Daredevil by sneaking in through her apartment window. She pepper-sprays him in self-defense, and the stench is strong enough that Matt vomits and Marci herself is left gagging. This exchange afterwards:
    Matt Murdock: Did you really not know it was me? Foggy said you figured it out.
    Marci Stahl: [snorts] I’m just going to give you a tip here, Matt: when you climb through a woman’s window in the middle of the night, she kind of assumes that you plan to kill her horribly. She doesn’t stop to think, "oh, which of my acquaintances could this be?"
    Matt Murdock: I thought you would see the suit.
    Marci Stahl: In the dark? No, dumbass. And besides, I was a little preoccupied by my impending death.
  • In For a Penny, which takes place alongside season 1, is a partial AU work based on one viewer who pointed out that Matt and Foggy had to be deeply in debt paying rent for their office space and apartments, utility bills, paying Karen's wages as well as their own, food and other basics, that $3000 worth of half-broken office equipment that Karen got at the auction. It basically goes that while Matt and Karen were off on their own crusades against Fisk, Foggy was busy trying to keep Nelson & Murdock financially afloat.
    • Because Matt attended Columbia on a scholarship, he didn't have to take out student loans, unlike Foggy. By virtue of Matt's disability and his savings from his accident and his father's final match against Creel, he didn't need to take a part-time job, while Foggy had to work for a cleaning company on weekends and sometimes in the evenings to help pay his loans. This ended up being the reason Foggy graduated cum laude and Matt graduated summa cum laude.
    • Foggy's barhopping trip with Karen isn't just because she doesn't want to go home, but because he can't go home either due to police activity at his apartment.
    • Debt catches up to Foggy and he gets an eviction notice from his landlord. Wesley's paycheck for the Healy case is enough for them to finally start paying Karen her salary, and Foggy hopes, enough time for him to find a new apartment. Unfortunately, Fisk bombs Hell's Kitchen just days later and Foggy gets injured, and the resulting hospital bills deplete his bank account. He's forced to pack his things in a storage unit and budget his remaining money to cover the unit, his phone bills, and food.
    • Now evicted, Foggy ends up having to sleep in the office, occasionally staying with Marci Stahl or Elena Cardenas, and eventually with Brett Mahoney after Elena is killed. The reason he shows up in time when Fisk's thugs jump Karen is because he was on his way to stay with Elena.
    • When Foggy finds out about Matt being the Devil of Hell's Kitchen and having heightened senses, he realizes that Matt had to have known when Foggy hadn't showered, or was constantly hungry and tired. Matt admits that he did notice those changes in Foggy's behavior, but attributed them to the stress of their work on Fisk.
    • What ultimately digs Nelson & Murdock out of the hole is a combination of factors: using Hoffman to expose Fisk, Matt deciding to use a significant chunk of his remaining savings towards the firm's accounts, Karen transferring the money from her Union Allied settlement for the same, and Brett's mother as executrix of Elena's estate distributing Elena's money to the firm. While this gets them clients, Matt also agrees to set aside some of his objections and defend some not-so-innocent clients for the sake of financial security.
  • Starting Over From the Middle
    • When Foggy visits Matt's apartment and finds Matt and Karen on the roof talking to Frank Castle, he threatens Frank into leaving by reminding Matt, Karen and the audience that Frank is still a fugitive so Matt and Karen could be in legal trouble for harboring if the police find out:
      Foggy Nelson: You need to leave now.
      Frank Castle: Good to see you again, counselor. You know I don’t blame you for the trial. From what I hear, we both ended up better off.
      Foggy Nelson: [to Matt] I know he’s been babysitting you, but I will not be here while he is. He’s not my client anymore. He is an escaped convict. You have one minute before I call the police.
      Frank Castle: Karen declared me dead. No one’s looking for me.
      Foggy Nelson: Oh really. Because unless Karen’s forging death certificates for the coroner now, the State of New York considers you alive and a fugitive. So leave. Now.
      [Frank grabbed his jacket and the pack of supplies he’d brought over]
      Frank Castle: I was just on my way out. Karen’s got the overnight shift anyway. Don’t play cards with her, though. She cheats.
      Karen Page: Frank—
      Frank Castle: I’ll be in touch. [Matt made to chase after him, but on his way to the door, Foggy planted his hand firmly in his chest. Figuring he’d be able to get in touch with Frank at a later date, and not wanting to imperil his fragile relationship with Foggy, he stopped and addressed the situation in his apartment]
      Matt Murdock: I’m sorry, Foggy. I didn’t know he’d be here.
      Foggy Nelson: Matt, are you trying to be the death of me? You’re out patrolling already, you’re letting the Punisher hang out at your place, and your girlfriend is playing...I don’t know what she’s playing, some trick taking game, against him. For chocolates, apparently. And winning.
      Karen Page: It’s two handed euchre, and yes, I was winning. He’s not, well, I won’t say he’s not dangerous, but he’s not killing anyone—
      Foggy Nelson: Lately.
      Karen Page: Lately, but he wouldn’t hurt any of us.
      Foggy Nelson: That’s not the point! Do you know how much trouble we could all be in, knowing where he is, not turning him in?!
      Matt Murdock: You don’t know where he is anymore! If it makes you feel better, you can call the police and tell them you saw him here.
      Foggy Nelson: Damnit, Murdock, why do you have to be so reasonable and make this so difficult? And put on some damn clothes!
    • Wilson Fisk's use of threats against Melvin's girlfriend is not an idle one. He has an enforcer put her in the hospital when he finds out about Melvin tailoring Daredevil's outfits.
  • The Sins of the Father:
    • Fisk hires Bullseye to kill Elektra's father Hugo, and later uses him to kill Carl Hoffman to get himself acquitted. Shortly afterwards, Bullseye attacks Fall Fest, a street festival in Hell's Kitchen, and kills a bunch of innocent people while trying to collect a bounty Fisk has placed on Daredevil. Foggy points out that this makes Bullseye a big weak point in Fisk's operation, for Bullseye only got away from his attack on Fall Fest because the police screwed up their responsenote . The first two murders Fisk hired him to commit have established that he's a professional hitman, meaning Fisk can't have him killed the moment he becomes a liability. Matt realizes, listening to Foggy's idea, that Bullseye's egotistical desire to make a public name for himself also runs very counter to Fisk's general practice of keeping his criminal activity silent and buried.
    • Bullseye realizes Matt has extra sensitive hearing during the street festival attack. So he makes a point of weaponizing that weakness during their next encounter.
    • Some people are savvy enough about Fisk's policy of killing loose ends to have insurance to protect themselves from being killed. Larry Cranston,note  the crooked lawyer responsible for helping Fisk get acquitted (by getting Hoffman to perjure himself prior to Fisk having him killed, and later acting as an unofficial member of Fisk's legal team), blackmails Fisk for money in exchange for not going to the police with evidence implicating Fisk in the deaths of Don Rigoletto and several other mafia dons. Fisk can only pay him because he doesn't know what exactly the evidence is or where Cranston has hidden it.
      • Despite being on Fisk's payroll, Cranston can only be part of Fisk's legal team in an unofficial capacity because he is representing Hoffman, who is supposed to be a witness against Fisk. It would be very obvious that Fisk ordered Hoffman's death if Cranston had turned around and started publicly representing Fisk afterwards. As Matt theorizes, Cranston used a work-around where he ghost-lawyered, helping the attorneys who would actually appear in court build the case, but without his name on any documents.
    • The case against Fisk is pretty weak. By having Hoffman killed, Fisk makes his acquittal all but guaranteed. He's simply able to deny everything, and for any criminal activities that can't be discredited, his legal team blames them on James Wesley and Leland Owlsley, who are conveniently too dead to contradict Fisk.
    • Like in a number of other fics, Fisk's threats against Melvin's girlfriend aren't idle. One of the first things he does after getting out of prison is have Betsy be killed by the Enforcers.
    • In the backstory, Hugo Natchios kept a ledger with incriminating details on the heroin shipments Fisk made him smuggle into the United States, which he tried to blackmail Fisk with. Fisk responded by having him killed, and then had people go about the process of trying to track down the ledger since its existence could ensure his conviction. And to keep the smuggling operation going, Fisk makes sure to have a spare on hand and simply extorts Eric Slaughter into continuing it by threatening his wife.
    • Bullseye being arrested and locked up after Matt and Elektra defeat him in the process of trying to confront Fisk to collect his money (and killing several of Fisk's guards in the process) doesn't automatically mean Elektra is out of Fisk's crosshairs. Matt realizes this after overhearing Elektra take a call from the police about Bullseye's arrest, and from the details the detective tells her, notices that Fisk didn't tell the police at all about Elektra being there. Matt concludes that the reason why Fisk isn't sending the police after Elektra is because she knows too much, and he knows she's got Hugo's ledgers, which he won't be able to beat out of her if she's in jail. Sure enough, Fisk waits for a little over a week before he makes his move. He does so by having his men kidnap Elektra while she's paying a visit to her parents' graves, and they then abduct Matt from his apartment as he's returning home from work. They then tie Elektra up to a pole in an empty warehouse, where Fisk threatens to personally beat Matt to death in front of her to get her to cooperate.note 
    • When Matt regains consciousness, he engages Fisk in a one on one fight while slipping Elektra a knife from one of the two henchmen Fisk brought with him for her to free herself. The circumstances of this fight are very much identical to the first time Matt fought Fisk (after getting maimed by Nobu), and since Matt is unarmored and only wearing work clothes, Fisk has the upper hand for most of the fight. It's only after Elektra joins in and jabs her fingernail into Fisk's eye that the fight turns in Matt's favor. Afterwards, Matt is prepared to call the police to arrest Fisk, since he abducted them and tried to kill them. Elektra decides to shoot Fisk in the head with a gun she picked up off one of the henchmen, since Fisk now knows Matt is Daredevil.
    • Elektra shoots Fisk in the head, but the bullet doesn't kill him as his skull is very dense, keeping the bullet from passing all the way through his head. He is, however, in a coma, and Karen notes that it's only a small comfort that he can't give orders while he's unconscious.
    • Before leaving the warehouse, Elektra takes the step of planting the gun she used to shoot Fisk on one of the henchmen, with the intent of framing them, but she's aware that all of the injuries she and Matt inflicted on the two henchmen and on Fisk are likely not going to lead the police to believe that Fisk was shot in the head by a disgruntled bodyguard.
Iron Fist (2017)
  • Poison and Wine:
    • Ward Meachum may have gone cold turkey towards the end of the series, but two months after the events of the show, he quickly has relapsed into his drug use, to the point that Joy has to stage an intervention by hiring him a rehab specialist and the threat of losing his stake in Rand Enterprises over his head to get him to go along.
    • Just because the Hand had been driven out of Rand Enterprises doesn't mean they aren't done with their attempts to get at Danny. Ward's rehab specialist becomes an easy target for Bakuto to subject to blackmail.

The Defenders (2017)

  • Soliloquy: This is an AU fic in which Sowande's threats against the heroes' loved ones turn out to not be idle. The Defenders find that putting their loved ones up at the precinct makes them sitting ducks.
    • They are able to determine that they need to attack the precinct by isolating Karen Page's cell phone location. After determining that Colleen Wing is also in the precinct, Bakuto correctly assumes that Claire, Malcolm and Trish are there too.

    Mass Effect 
  • After using a melding to learn English in First Contact, the asari Captain Wavela still has occasional trouble with the language first because knowing that the words mean doesn't mean she instantly knows how to make the right sounds, then later because she doesn't have the cultural knowledge to understand numerous references most humans would understand.
  • In The Fourth Council Race, humanity doesn't unite simply because they become an interstellar race. Several countries, particularly more powerful ones such as China and the United States of America, continue to play political games even after they come into conflict with the turians note .
  • In Renegade Reinterpretations humans do NOT magically Advance Swiftly. As such, when the batarians come visiting, they get Curb Stomped over and over again and only Zerg Rushing enables them to desperately throw lives for time in the hope of being able to turn the tide someday. After they do so, the cultural scars of the generations-long war means that mankind does not magically become receptive to further alien contact. In fact, Paragon and Renegade are replaced by Xenonationalist (letting aliens live on their own and being willing to compromise, while still not trusting them) and Assimilationist (human dominance).
  • Mas Effect: Synthesis:
    • Even though they're being offered five planets to settle on, there's still resistance among the quarians over achieving synthesis with synthetic lifeforms. The Admirality largely accepts because, after three hundred years, their fleet is irreparable and they have at best years left before their ships fail.
    • Because humanity has not officially arrived on the galactic scene, there are no Translator Microbes for any human language. While talking with Sparatus about humanity's war against the batarians, James Vega is stuck with broken batarian and at one point admits he can't answer a question because he doesn't know the words.

    Matrix 
  • In The Return of What If?, the freed humans choose to destroy the Matrix because there is literally no way to free everyone in it. At best half of the people in the Matrix would accept the idea that they’ve been living in a dream, and the Machines calculate that only twenty percent of the overall population of the Matrix would be able to cope in the real world without just going insane or reacting like Cypher, and that’s without taking into account the lack of resources on the decimated Earth to sustain a population of that potential scale.

    Mega Man 
  • Abyssal is a dark, epic, 36-chapter work about how corporate greed enslaved everyone, human and Reploid alike. Reploids are treated as disposable property, anyone with the resources can make one, and going Maverick (for something as minor as not showing up to work or resisting the system) is punishable by death. Thanks for Nothing Dad by the same author is a one-chapter work where the rebellion never happens due to different government regulations. Reploid technology is open source, but anyone who builds one has to prove to Cain Labs they can provide for them, and if a Reploid commits a crime, the company that built them might be liable. As a result, Reploids have better working conditions, removing the need for a rebellion in the first place.
  • Mega Man: Defender of the Human Race, like the cartoon it's based off of, takes its source material with a fair bit of seriousness.
    • After the first time Wily attacks and starts making world domination schemes, the government immediately sends armed troops to take him out. They only fail due to his fortress defenses. They also don't sit back and let Mega Man do all their fighting, with two major events kicked off by their attempts at self-defense and trying to trap Wily.
    • All the fighting Mega Man does wreaks havoc on his armor and damages his internal systems, a problem touched upon a few times in the cartoon. He is seen undergoing repair work from his battles frequently and suffers from internal injuries and damaged parts mid-fight at times.
    • Once Vick-Tek is revealed to have accidentally funded the world's most dangerous terrorist, the company's stock bottoms out the next day as nobody would support them after making a blunder that big. Similarly, Marcus Vicker's Corrupt Corporate Executive behavior gets him exiled by his own board when it becomes clear he's no longer fit to run the company.
    • Offscreen Villain Dark Matter doesn't exist. Wily's need for funds and materials drive several episodes and even the Conduit begins to bleed dry after Mega Man's repeated victories over them.
    • Proto Man is Reformed, but Rejected by the public as they're understandably wary after he faked it the first time.

    Megamind 
  • In Rain on the Just, a retired Metro Man has to face the unpleasant consequences of faking his own death - namely, he has no money, no means of income, no friends, and he can't use his fame anymore to get stuff for free.

    Miraculous Ladybug 
  • Nino in another night on mars tells Marinette that since she's been acting strangely for the past year or so (ever since she became Ladybug), vanishing and making up dumb excuses for her absences, he didn't really feel like he knew or could trust her anymore. He also didn't see Lila's Celebrity Lies as a big deal since "People lie about knowing celebrities all the time,", and she couldn't give any solid reasons as to why she insisted Lila was far worse than she seemed.
  • Away From You (I know where I'm going) takes the "Alya abandons Marinette for Lila" plot and actually gives Alya a legitimate reason to do so: Marinette is always disappearing during akuma attacks and claiming to be in places where she wasn't, and her opinions on other people (like Kagami) seem to change at the drop of a hat, which has eroded Alya's trust in the girl and made her feel like she doesn't know who she truly is.
  • In ChaoticNeutral's BURN THE WITCH, Adrien's strategy of 'taking the high road' and not exposing Lila has devastating consequences, as it leaves her free to swindle and deceive others. Specifically, Rose gives her money believing that it's all going towards her "charity work", when she's really just pocketing the cash and spending it all on herself.
    • The deception also costs Rose her friendship with Prince Ali, as she convinced him to donate as well, only to discover no such charity existed. The fact that Rose herself was tricked doesn't stop him from being angry or holding her responsible. He doesn't know her well enough to see her as a victim; in his eyes, she is either a liar herself or a fool, and either way, he has no interest in risking being burned further.
    • How Lila uses the money also backfires on her, as she spends most of the cash on a fancy, expensive new wardrobe. All Chloe has to do when Rose starts pestering Lila for answers is to point out what she's wearing.
    • Lila finds herself getting a harsh reality check in general, as the main reason she's been able to get away with her Blatant Lies for so long is because her family kept moving away before she had to face any long-term consequences. Witch Hunter changes the game by exposing everything she has done, yet Lila continues employing the same tactics, because they've always worked out for her before and she refuses to acknowledge that she might be wrong.
    • One idea Lila clings to throughout the whole nightmarish ordeal is the idea that Hawkmoth would never let Witch Hunter actually kill her, having convinced herself that she's simply far too valuable. Once Witch Hunter finally captures her, Lila declares as much to her face, and grins when she sees the telltale signs of Hawkmoth communicating with his akuma... only for Witch Hunter to relay the news that her services are no longer required. Followed by an intense Breaking Speech where he spells out for her how she has completely destroyed the one thing that made her worthwhile. Now that she's widely known to be a manipulator, nobody will trust her, rendering her skills completely useless... and leaving him with no reason whatsoever to keep her around.
  • Burning Bridges, Building Confidence has this in spades when Alya attacks Marinette and Cole in class:
    • While Cole has been handling all of Lila and her followers' bullying with considerable patience up to this point, having her face raked by Alya's deliberately sharpened nails and several of the stitches near her eye socket burst open proves to be a bit too much for her to shoulder. Her grandfather has to take her out of the meeting and help her through a panic attack. She's also notably subdued afterwards, especially as Lila's followers amp up their torment by flinging slurs and accusations her way.
    • The damage dealt by the attack also sets back her recovery by several weeks, meaning that she's left waiting even longer before she can get a glass eye to replace the one she'd lost long before this assault.
    • Ms. Bustier blames Cole for the incident, choosing to comfort Alya instead and only getting her medical attention while ignoring Cole's injuries. When questioned about this, she declares that she was more concerned with treating the victim. Damocles responds to this flagrant favoritism by immediately putting her on leave, pending a serious review of how she's been conducting her class.
    • Alya faces severe punishment for her actions. Her parents are especially furious, reinforcing their grounding of her by forcibly putting her Ladyblog on hiatus... which includes them taking control of the blog and posting an explanation on it of how it's been suspended until further notice, and why.
    • Cole's mother is, quite understandably, extremely furious about this situation and very shortly afterwards hits Collège Françoise Dupont with a lawsuit because she was able to get the law to recognize Alya's attack as an ableist hate crime. The result: Ms. Bustier is facing the possibility of being fired and Lila's goons are in extremely hot water with both the law and their parents.
  • CONSEQUENCES has this happen to Lila when her Karma Houdini Warranty finally runs out.
    • "STALKING": Lila attempts to make Marinette look like a crazed stalker by showing the class photos of the inside of Marinette's private bedroom, showing them her poster collection of Adrien and her copy of his schedule, in addition to shots of her lingering near his photoshoots. Even without Marinette's sensible explanations, the class questions how Lila got all these pictures of Marinette and her private belongings, since it's common knowledge to all of them that Marinette hates Lila and would never allow her within ten feet of her if she could help it, let alone give her access to her room. They logically figure out that Lila broke into her room and stalked Marinette to Adrien's shoot to get pictures. Not only does Marinette emerge from the scandal unscathed, now everyone rightfully sees Lila as the dangerous stalker, and she’s promptly hit with restraining orders from her classmates.
    • "BREAKING AND ENTERING": Lila breaks into Marinette’s room with the intent to steal her diary to use as blackmail. Of course, like with Sabrina, the trap box containing the object of desire is triggered when Lila tries to take it and snaps painfully on her hand. Her scream of pain alerts Sabine, who naturally tells Tom to call the police. Lila tries to talk her way out of trouble by claiming Marinette stole her diary and she was just trying to get it back, but unlike in the "Ladybug" episode, this quickly falls flat. Naturally, Tom and Sabine aren’t inclined to believe someone they caught red-handed breaking into their home who then assaulted Sabine while trying to escape. Moreover, Marinette had warned her parents about Lila after nearly getting expelled, and this is the second instance where Lila has made accusations of their daughter that are wildly out of character for Marinette. Tom and Sabine also point out that even if what Lila said were true, it wouldn’t justify her crimes. After Marinette unlocks the box off so Lila can take it off, Lila immediately tries to make run for it with her diary. Just when it looks like she’s won, though, she opens the diary up and discovers it’s just a decoy with blank pages. Obviously, Marinette would take additional precautions after her diary was nearly stolen the first time.
    • "SEXUAL HARASSMENT": When Adrien finally reaches his breaking point with Lila, he vows to expose her, but Lila corners him and forces herself on him, insisting that he is hers. Gabriel catches her in the act and fires her immediately. He then proceeds to blacklist her and gather dirt on her before he sues her. She ends up exposed to her mother and listed as a sex offender, and her defeat in trial becomes a landmark ruling.
    • "THREATENING A TSURUGI": Lila tries to threaten Kagami into breaking up with Adrien. Unfortunately, she underestimates her foe, since while Kagami still owns a good heart, she is more cutthroat and vindictive than Marinette or Adrien and perfectly willing to fight back. She does not back down and brushes off all of Lila’s petty threats with grace. Lila tries to frame Kagami for stealing test answers and assaulting her like she did with Marinette, but the school faculty and student body were not fooled a second time and get suspicious of Lila making the same accusation against students who are known for good behaviour. When Lila proceeds to step over the line by targeting Kagami's blind mother, injuring her enough to put her in the hospital, Kagami goes straight for the kill and returns the favour by informing Mrs. Rossi of just what's been going on, destroying Lila in one move.
    • "CHAT BLANC": Lila helps Hawk Moth akumatise Cat Noir by attacking Ladybug to keep her from intervening, only to perish with everyone else in Paris when Cat Blanc loses control of his Cataclysm. This is witnessed by Bunnyx through her time portal and she alerts Ladybug to the danger posed by Lila. Ladybug then has Rena Rouge cast an illusion of Hawk Moth and Mayura offering Lila an akuma for the benefit of several hidden police officers. Lila eagerly accepts, which is more than enough cause for the officers to arrest her and when she tries to deny it, they point out that she thought they were the real deal and her first reaction to being approached by two wanted terrorists was to offer her help rather than run away screaming or alerting the authorities.
    • "MARC AND NATHANIEL": After Nathaniel scolds her for trying to leech off the fame of his and Marc's comic, Lila retaliates by stealing the pages for their next issue and claiming them as her own work stolen by them. When push comes to shove, however, the two boys are able to prove they are the real creators by recreating the work on the spot whilst she cannot, landing her with charges of plagiarism as the comic is an officially published work. When she destroys the pages out of spite, it merely gets her additonal charges of property destruction and her trust fund drained to pay for the damages, which her mother naturally permits since it helps her to avoid a costly court battle and hopes that the punishment will teach Lila a valuable lesson.
    • "BULLYING": Most salt fics turn Marinette's classmates into Lila's sycophants willing to viciously bully and assault a girl they're all friends with. This story deconstructs it by having them realise that Lila was lying on their own, but pretending to side with her in order to protect Marinette and lure Lila into a false sense of security before exposing her as a manipulative liar. Even if they didn't necessarily believe Marinette about Lila at first, they're still good kids who would never try and hurt her.
    • "SINS OF THE PAST": Given Lila's established threats and actions against Marinette to ruin her life and take away her friends, as well as her having moved around a lot with her mother, it makes sense that she's done the same to other victims in places she's previously been to. This story focuses on one such previous victim, Frederick, who met Lila in Germany and tried to expose her as a liar, only for her to turn all his friends against him and bully him to the point where he attempted to kill himself. Despite moving to Paris for a fresh start he still remains horribly traumatised by what she put him through and, as such, when he catches sight of her in his new class he promptly suffers a panic attack and bolts in terror, with his fear and rage being enough to get him akumatised and send him after Lila, eager for revenge.
    • "MAMA BEAR": Lila destroys a doll belonging to Manon Chamack out of pettiness when she runs into her at the park, only for Manon's accordingly furious mother Nadja Chamack to chase after and track her down. In the course of doing so, Nadja finds Lila plotting with Hawk Moth and records it as well as digging into Lila's past for info on her and tipping off the heroes so they're ready to disrupt whatever plan Lila has, exposing her on live TV as a terrorist sympathiser and cruel bully. Nadja is both a loving mother and a dedicated journalist who would naturally use both things in pursuit of the girl who bullied her child.
    • "RUNNING AMOK": Hawk Moth gives Lila the newly repaired Peacock Miraculous, not wanting to risk either his health or Mayura's in case it isn't completely fixed, with strict instructions on using it. Since Lila is arrogant and over-confident as well as determined to beat Ladybug in person, she disobeys them all and jumps into the first battle so she can take down Ladybug herself. Since she has no experience in fighting or using her Miraculous compared to the heroes, as well as the Peacock being unsuited to direct combat, she gets her butt well and truly kicked. With the Peacock now in their hands, Ladybug and Cat Noir learn Hawk Moth's identity from Duusu and use it to lure him into a trap and capture him. This trope also ensues for Hawk Moth and Mayura due to their actions in the New York special; threatening to launch a nuclear missile unless given a pair of magical jewels naturally brought Hawk Moth to the attention of the global community. In Mayura's case, the damage caused by her Robostus sentimonster wasn't fixed because Ladybug and Cat Noir were occupied in New York and people died with no way to bring them back, meaning she's facing murder charges.
    • "EXPOSED": Lila records Ladybug de-transforming into Marinette and posts the video online, exposing her identity. Cat Noir outfoxes her, however, by retrieving the Miracle Box from Marinette's room and using the Fox Miraculous to cast an illusion of Ladybug claiming that Marinette was a temporary placeholder whilst she was out of town and that her carelessness in exposing her identity means she can no longer be trusted with a Miraculous. Not only does this save Marinette's identity and throw Hawk Moth off her trail, it results in Lila becoming almost universally hated for risking the city's safety by trying to expose Ladybug's identity.
    • "MAX-IMUM EFFECT": Lila is informed by Ms. Bustier that she is currently the worst-performing student in school, and has only two options: either repeat the school year, or complete a huge folder of worksheets in order to pass the class. Knowing that she would never be able to keep the first option from her mother, Lila reluctantly picks the second option, then seeks out Max in order to get him to do the work for her. When he refuses, she crushes his fingers with the lid of his laptop and threatens to ruin his life the way she ruined Marinette's. Max pretends to give in, but when he fills in the worksheets, he does so using a font he made up himself, which can only be found on ''his'' computer. As such, when Ms. Bustier reads the worksheets, she questions Lila as to why they're written in a font she knows can only be found on Max's computer. Lila tries to lie her way out of it by claiming that Max let her borrow his computer, but when questioned he calmly reveals the threats Lila made against him, then goes on to reveal that she's been trying to ruin Marinette's life since day one. When asked for evidence, he reveals that Markov recorded the whole thing, and shows the video to the class. Furious, Lila tries to claw his eyes out, but is tasered into unconsciousness by Markov. The end result is Lila's mother being informed of her daughter's crimes, showing up at the school and subjecting Lila to an hour-long rant in Italian, then forcing her to debunk her lies in a video filmed by Alya before shipping her off to a strict reform school in Italy.
    • “TEACHERS” has three one shots, subverting the Adults Are Useless trope frequently seen in salt fics, as well as the teachers’ Ron the Death Eater tropes.
      • “EYES OF THE OWL”: Turns out, Lila only got away with pretending to be pushed down the stairs in the “Ladybug” episode because the security cameras were broken. Of course, they’re repaired soon after, and when Principal Damocles thinks of the incident, he decides to do the responsible thing as caretaker and watch the footage so any misunderstanding can finally be put to rest. To his horror, he sees Lila sit down and pretend to writhe in pain in the footage, falsely accusing Marinette like she did. Being the kind, responsible person in charge, tasked with students’ well-being instead of the spineless wimp he is usually portrayed as in salt fics, he apologizes to Marinette sincerely and contacts Lila’s mother to inform her of her daughter’s deceit. Once armed with solid proof of Lila’s cruelty, he summons her to his office and rips ok to her, making it clear he’s no longer buying any victim cards she tries to pull.
      • “MALICIOUS CONTEMPT”: Madame Bustier, a kind, motherly woman who genuinely cares for her student’s mental health, notices how stressed and unhappy Adrien has been lately, and, like any concerned teacher who wants her students to thrive, asks him what is wrong. After the way Lila’s been pushing herself onto Adrien, coming between his friends, touching him everywhere, ignoring his demands that he is uncomfortable, anyone would break down eventually. And Adrien does. After that, Madame Bustier takes matters into her own hands and calls Adrien’s father to let him know how his bad parenting is taking a harsh toll on his son’s mental health. She then pulls Lila aside and kindly asks her to respect Adrien’s boundaries. Of course, Lila being Lila, she takes this as an initiative to threaten, hit, and force herself on Adrien. This only serves to condemn her when Ms. Bustier, having Mama Bear instincts for her students, witnesses the whole thing. Instead of pardoning Lila with no punishment whatsoever and asking others to forgive and forget, no matter how cruel the action is, Caline does what any caring teacher would do in face of someone hurting her students and drags Lila to the Principal with rough force to face justice for her actions.
      • “SCIENTIFIC APPROACH”: Mlle. Mendeleiev takes science very seriously. She firmly believes in the scientific approach and checking everything instead of jumping to conclusions based on a student’s word for it. As such, Lila can’t get away with claiming disabilities because Mendeleiev does not buy her lies and requires actual medical notes as evidence of her claims. She keeps a folder of students’ disabilities, verified with notes from doctors and parents, so no one can accuse her of being unfair to Lila. When Lila tries to give her a forged note, Mendeleiev sees right through it because she also has a folder of samples of students’ handwriting just for this occasion, so she can spot any forgery. When you’re a scientist with a passion for the truth, of course you’ll be Crazy-Prepared for lies.
  • Every Day In My Shoes is a Alternate Universe Fic where Marinette is deaf, so Adrien starts learning sign language to better communicate with her. In addition, he frequents her balcony as Chat Noir to keep a close eye on her while she recovers from a near-death experience. When Adrien eventually tells Marinette he's Chat Noir, she actually wasn't as shocked at Adrien thought she'd be. She said she was able to put two and two together because of how similar Adrien and Chat's signs were due to muscle memory.
  • Five Times Lila Rossi's Lies Failed details 5 different ways Lila's lies could have been caught out.
    • By the school: When Lila doesn't show up for school, the school, per policy, calls her emergency contacts and despite Lila preventing them from reaching her mother on the woman's cell phone and the home phone (Lila stole the former and claimed that the latter was a prank call), they eventually call her ex-husband who calls up the Italian Embassy. Mrs. Rossi is not happy, sending her daughter to her father's as Paris was Lila's last chance after she bullied a former classmate into slicing her wrists open.
    • By Rose: Rose's suspicions are peaked by Lila's claim of knowing Prince Ali and working with him to help the environment since Ali had never mentioned her in his penpal letters to Rose. Ali quickly refutes Lila's claims when Rose video chats him for a fact check and his family ultimately sues her for libel.
    • By the entire class: Everyone in the class has met Jagged Stone and Lila's lies about saving his cat (they all know Jagged Stone is allergic to animal fur and has been ever since he was five years old, way before anybody in the class was ever born) quickly fall flat.
    • By Nathalie: Nathalie is perfectly aware of Adrien's grades due to being one of his caretakers and she's seen enough crazy fangirls to know precisely what Lila's intentions are; she obtains a restraining order on Lila, forcing the girl to switch schools.
    • By Max: Max realizes that the napkin was completely harmless to him and shows Lila as a liar by pointing out he wears glasses, which the rest of the class realizes the meaning of immediately.
  • Five Times Lila Rossi Suffered The Consequences Of Her Lies, by the author of the above, sees Lila suffering the logical consequences of her lies.
    • Claiming to be Ladybug's best friend on a public blog dedicated to Ladybug and Chat Noir gets her kidnapped by Hawkmoth in a Hostage for MacGuffin scheme since he reads the blog to find any information on the heroes he can use to exploit. He is quickly disgusted with both Lila herself and Mrs. Rossi and when he returns Lila, snaps at Mrs. Rossi to discipline her daughter.
      • When Ladybug hears Hawkmoth's announcement that he has her best friends, it causes her to go hunt down Alya, who quickly connects the dots. No matter what she could say, Ladybug went straight to her, meaning that there is only one person she could be who fits the role.
    • Chloe believes one of Lila's lies about a dance where Ladybug is supposed to be, and when she found out she lied she vows to take Lila down and expose her as a liar. This forces Lila to stop harassing Marinette until she can deal with Chloe, and she believes that it will be easy to get her out of the way because nobody likes her due to how much of an Alpha Bitch she is. Unfortunately for Lila, she doesn't consider the fact that Chloe is the daughter of the mayor of Paris and has used this to get away with stuff in the past, so the school administration is reluctant to punish her. As a result, when she attempts to frame Chloe for cheating off her test, for stealing her necklace, and for shoving her down the stairs, it all backfires because Chloe correctly points out that Lila's claims are based on entirely circumstantial evidence and there's no way she'd even want Lila's cheap necklace because she's able to afford all the expensive jewelry she wants. She also correctly points out to Principal Damocles that expelling her without a proper investigation into these supposed incidents or even any evidence will bring her father's wrath down on the school, forcing him to back down. Afterward, Lila attempts to go to the press to "expose Mayor Bourgeois' corruption" so the family's influence over Paris will be diminished, but she ends up getting laughed out of every news media headquarters she goes to. While everybody knows that Andre Bourgeois is flawed, especially when it comes to the lack of disciplining towards his daughter, he's still a competent mayor who has done so much for Paris and nobody wants to throw him out of power. Not to mention, reporters and journalists aren't just going to do an exposé on a high-level politician on the word of a middle-schooler, especially one with no evidence.
    • Lila's missed school and lack of studying effort result in her getting held back a year; when her mother shows up to appeal the decision, she finds out that Lila has been lying about the school being closed due to the Akuma attacks and proceeds to scream at the principal for believing Lila's lies. Lila is quickly grounded and her final contact with the rest of the class is apology letters.
    • Jagged Stone responds to Lila's claims about by suing her for defamation as people were starting to accuse him of doing "unrock'n'roll things" to Lila (calling Alya out for her part in the mess) and adding an "emotional damages" suit on Marinette's behalf. Lila loses both cases, is sent back to Italy by her ashamed mother, and spends the rest of her life paying them off because she can't hold down a job due to her bullying and lying nature.
    • After Lila's "lying disorder" is explained to the class, no one believes anything she says anymore. Even if she "can't help being a compulsive liar", it doesn't change the fact that she's been lying to everybody the whole time and has been trying to ruin Marinette's life with her lies so nobody has any good reason to trust her anymore.
  • Five Times Lila Rossi Was Defeated By Common Sense features common sense triggering realistic consequences for Lila.
    • When Lila claims in her interview with Alya that she's Ladybug's best friend, Alya refuses to post said interview due to being concerned that it would be dangerous for Lila; Lila's attempts to spin Alya as the one in the wrong don't mesh with Alya's knowledge of Ladybug and Chat and when Lila claims You're Just Jealous, Alya is tipped into Spotting the Thread and realizes Lila's true character. Lila admits to said true character and declares she doesn't need Alya; she is quickly proven wrong when Alya posts about Lila's true character on all her blogs, which all her classmates follow, thus causing everyone to take everything Lila says with a bunch of salt and mostly ignore her. This makes Lila get snappier and snappier until she finally throws herself at Adrien; without the possibility that she could help him get closer to Ladybug, Adrien responds to her antics by screaming "STRANGER DANGER!", netting Lila a month of detention and the reputation of "creepy stalker girl no one bothers to learn the actual name of" for the rest of her time in Paris.
    • After Lila has spun her several lies about the school being closed due to akumas in the wake of Ladybug calling her out in front of Adrien, her mother decides that Paris is unsafe and sends her back to Italy to live with her grandmother. Lila is horrified and tries every trick she can think of to convince her mother to change her mind but nothing works and once she's back in Italy, everyone at Dupont swiftly forgets about her.
    • Lila's lie about her tinnitus and how she got it is swiftly disproved by everyone in class with a few simple Google searches. Chloe mocks Lila for not thinking of Googling to fact-check. Lila is furious and ultimately destroys a phone belonging to Sabrina's father, which gets her arrested for vandalism and then put on several medications and watch lists due to looking extremely unstable.
    • When the class starts discussing who should move where, Adrien steps up as Only Sane Man and points out only one person needs to switch to accommodate Lila's tinnitus. He then volunteers to move to the back and let Lila have his seat next to Nino, which sticks for the remainder of the year.
    • When Gabriel meets with Lila, his business instincts combined with his status as a paranoid parent scream that she's not to be trusted or allowed near Adrien without severe precautions and when she tries to slander Marinette, Gabriel reveals that since the school won't let Adrien's bodyguard accompany him into the school, he's had every single person there background-checked by a private investigator who's a long-term and trusted employee. Lila is forced to back off and finds that even Hawkmoth won't have anything to do with her.
  • In Fox Rain, different circumstances lead to Lila becoming the heroic wielder of the Fox Miraculous rather than a villain... But she's still the person that could have become that:
    • When she meets Ladybug as a superhero, Ladybug expects them to be allies, but Lila is still holding a grudge because of something she did, and maintains Ladybug knows exactly what she did even if she denies it. She also holds a grudge against Chat Noir for leaving her on top of the Eiffel Tower.
    • The reason for Lila's grudge against Ladybug is something really offensive to Italians (though she doesn't explain what). Lila knows a Frenchwoman is unlikely to know and mean that deliberately... but she is also convinced Ladybug is Italian or has an Italian parent, and thus should know, due to the hammy mannerism she picked up from her Italian grandmother. A mannerism that had led to the same misunderstanding multiple times in the past in Marinette's life and, combined with her knowledge of Italian slang, makes Lila guess Marinette has Italian relatives.
    • It turns out that what Lila said on the first day was not intended to be taken seriously but as jokes or, in case of the Jagged Stone lie, a wild sarcastic claim that should have explained she didn't believe what Chloe was telling her, and only ended up being believed due to her classmates having stumbled on far crazier stuff. This is also the origin of Lila's canonical Surrounded by Idiots attitude, at least until she finds out how crazy things in Paris are.
      • Being the daughter of the mayor of Paris, who happens to be a millionaire businessman, and Adrien's childhood friend, Chloe is used to verifying wild claims, and checked with Jagged Stone if he actually knew Lila.
    • During her first public appearance as the superhero Vorpika, Lila used an illusion that was an in-joke between her and Prince Ali, who happens to be an old friend of hers. He realizes her secret identity in seconds.
    • While she's oblivious to why, Chloe has noticed Akumatizations tend to happen around her and she's usually the target, and reacts badly when an unknown party does something that could lead to Lila being reakumatized. But due to her own experiences with her, Marinette is baffled when she sees her trying to prevent an Akumatization.
    • Due to how often she gets involved with Akumatizations, Ladybug and Chat Noir gave Chloe their numbers so she can warn them. Chat Noir also mentions a few other people have them, including the mayor, what is implied to be the Bourgeois' butler, the Agrestes' chauffeur, and Marinette... and haven't abused them yet.
    • While they're old and very close friends, Prince Ali still has duties to his country, and when Natalie covertly informs his chaperone (and thus his father) about what really happened with Volpina he's nearly forced to break it off, at least until it's realized it was Papillon's manipulations.
    • While Lila is more heroic, her first reaction upon realizing Papillon tried to manipulate her into villainy is to plot his destruction in cold anger, at least until Prince Ali and Ladybug snap her out of it. And while she has no problem with Prince Ali's actions due to him being an old friend, her prejudices toward Ladybug mean she doesn't understand why she helped rather than using her anger to manipulate her into being a better ally.
  • Funhouse Mirror takes a sledgehammer to the Ron the Death Eater trope (standard in "salt" fics) by showing how a canon character would actually react to the idea of doing terrible things. Namely, Alya is horrified by the fact that her alternate self is a gullible, spiteful harpy of a person, expressing disbelief at the idea that any version of herself would act like that. For bonus points, the author notes that everything Other!Alya does was based off of real fanfics they'd read.
  • In Hawk Moth: War Criminal, the ramifications of the New York Special are felt when Hawk Moth and his accomplices have been defeated and arrested. Due to the fact that Hawk Moth’s scheme in the episode put the whole world at risk and could have sparked World War III, they are set to face their trial at the U.N. for war crimes.
  • Hero Chat:
    • Adrien's missing mother is generally assumed to be a perfect mother who probably disappeared when Adrien was a kid, resulting in Gabriel slowly getting worse over the years. Adrien reveals to the group that his mother was fully supportive of his father's Control Freak way of raising him when she was around, if better at communicating why she did it. The group is surprised by this but as Adrien points out Gabriel had been raising him that way for almost his whole life and his mother has only been gone for about the last year, so she would have known about it and Gabriel would have only been able to do so if she supported him in it.
    • Despite the powers being incredible things literally channeling the abilities and energies of minor gods, the wielders are still teenagers. So they are more than willing to start playing with and experimenting on the powers, such as asking "Can we take these super suits off," or using the abilities to avoid public transport.
    • The group is surprised to see a picture of Marinette with her hair down because she never has it like that. Nino points out it's a habit that's a result of living in a bakery so her hair doesn't get in the way when cooking.
    • When the group finds out that Master Fu is Incompletely Trained and his actions are indirectly responsible for the current mess with Hawkmoth, they're all rather livid. They might enjoy being heroes but they recognize how many problems they have to deal with because of his mistakes and aren't too happy basically running damage control for something he caused a century ago. They're also not too thrilled to find out he didn't complete his training because they were under the impression that he was a genuine wise mentor who had his reasons for his actions instead of a man who's basically been winging it to combat Hawkmoth.
    • This Tumblr post goes into how Lila's lies would be plausible to the class:
      • The school has a disproportionate amount of students who have some fame in their own right (i.e. Adrien the supermodel, Chloé the mayor's daughter, the band Kitty Section), or have connections to famous people (for example, Rose and Prince Ali, Marinette and Jagged Stone). Lila is known to be the daughter of a diplomat, so it's believable that she could have connections of her own.
      • Lila gets away with her lies because everybody thinks it's someone else's job to fact-check her; for example, the students believe her about her disabilities and the trips she's taken because it's the school's job to get that confirmed. They are teenagers, after all, and Lila is charismatic and interesting, so they don't bother to be suspicious unless given a good reason.
      • Lila is able to declare You're Just Jealous about Marinette because from the class's point of view, they have no reason to distrust Lila, and Marinette is known to have a serious crush on Adrien that sometimes affects her judgement.
      • Adrien's base-breaking belief that Marinette shouldn't expose Lila comes down to a few separate factors. First, he genuinely doesn't know how bad she can be- Marinette hasn't told him the worst things she's done. Second, he's approaching it from the point of view of a celebrity; in his experience, actively debunking Lila's lies would take way too much effort and probably evoke the Streisand Effect, so it's better to wait for her to inevitably make a mistake and take herself out. In short, he's making a misjudgment because he doesn't actually know how to be a teenager.
      • Finally, the characters are not hopelessly under Lila's spell like in most salt fics—once they notice inconsistencies with their stories (like Jagged Stone not having a cat in the first place), they start comparing notes and realizing how deep the deception went.
    • When the team meets the New York heroes (who are all adults), they promptly freak out when they realize that the kids are completely on their own with no adult mentors. Ladybug snaps that maybe some of the world's other heroes could have flown over to check on them at some point, and Sparrow explains that everyone just assumed that there was a responsible adult involved because they seemed to have everything handled.
  • Adrien's relationship with Chloe reflects badly on him in Jerk In Sheep's Clothing. Marinette reveals to Chat Noir that she didn't tell Adrien about Lila threatening her because he always defended Chloe and her actions. Marinette has lost trust in Adrien because of his actions.
  • LadyBugOut offers up several examples:
    • Alya's decision to post a photo of Ladybug and Chat Noir Kissing Under the Influence of Oblivio against Ladybug's express wishes and deliberately omitting the context causes her blog's reputation to take a severe nosedive after Ladybug starts her own blog and reveals the truth. Despite her insistence to the contrary, she's seen as a Paparazzi rather than an Intrepid Reporter, with the Ladyblog becoming seen as a trashy tabloid valuing traffic over truth.
    • Living a Double Life does not magically absolve anyone of the consequences of their actions. By betraying Ladybug's trust, Alya loses the right to bear the Fox. Nino and Chloe also lose their status as temporary heroes. Adrien's tendency to treat Chat Noir as an excuse to act 'freely' and recklessly ultimately ends up catching up to him, contributing to him losing the right to be the Black Cat.
    • Lila's deceptions unravel once Ivan notices and points out a glaring inconsistency and she attempts to cover for that by throwing others under the bus... including her own friends. This blatant backstabbing doesn't go over well with anyone, and she loses all of her influence, getting labeled 'Liar Rossi' and summarily dismissed by those she previously tricked.
  • Leave for Mendeleiev:
    • While Mme Bustier is in complete denial about how harmful her methods have been, Sabine and Tom are not blind to their daughter being bullied and get her transferred into another class.
    • Chloe finds herself running headlong into reality checks as she continues to pursue Marinette. Having consistently gotten away with bullying her in Miss Bustier's class due to their teacher expecting the 'good' kids to 'lead by example', she's at a loss when it comes to dealing with a Stern Teacher who's more than happy to assert her authority and lay down the law.
    • At the same time, while Marinette is much happier in Mendeleiev's classroom, the damage done by years of harassment doesn't just magically go away. When Chloe does manage to get at her, Marinette freezes, struggling against her old instincts and to stand up against somebody who terrorized her for so long. Nor did Chloe forget what her weaknesses are, and she's still able to get under her skin.
    • While Chloe gloats to Aurore that she's responsible for rigging the Weather Girl contest in order to ensure that she'd lose, Aurore has no way of proving whether or not Chloe's meddling was actually extensive enough to skew the vote as much as she claims. She doesn't attempt to expose the truth because it would likely backfire, making her look like a Sore Loser.
    • Adrien sees Ladybug's Miraculous Cure as a magical 'get out of consequences free' Reset Button. When Nino considers exploiting Mylene's akumatization to cast Horrificator as the monster in the movie he's making, Adrien encourages him, claiming that it'll be alright since Ladybug will fix everything afterwards. Marinette, overhearing this, is completely horrified, to the point that she considers asking Tikki if there's some way to leave some aftereffects behind just to discourage people from adopting that sort of toxic mentality.
  • Marigami Stories:
    • As gullible as Marinette's class can be, they all eventually find out that Lila has been making her stories up after they do the bare minimum of research into them. Not only that, but not all of them actually believed her to begin with, Aurore only listening because they were entertaining.
    • Even after the class apologizes to Marinette after they discover Lila for the fake she is, Marinette doesn't immediately take them all back, deciding to "[l]et them stew in their pity for a while."
    • In Season 7 Premiere Reaction, it’s shown that due to Ladybug and Chat Noir’s status as public figures movie studios are free to make their own movies of them as long as they keep them different from the others.
      • These films and comics based on them have to invent their own idea as to who or what Hawk Moth is, due to the public not even knowing what he looks like.
  • Miracle Queen Aftermath sees Chloe getting arrested for her actions during the Season 3 finale, along with her Karma Houdini Warranty running out:
    • When Ms. Bustier attempts to help by turning the defense's request for Character Witnesses into a class assignment, most of the students agree that they'd rather take a failing grade than write anything praising the girl who bullied them for years.
      • Max also points out that lying in their essays by making up stories about Chloe being nice would open them up to perjury or aiding in a conspiracy.
    • Adrien attempts to guilt-trip Marinette into convincing everyone to cooperate, only for Alya to call him out, with the rest of their classmates joining in on her "The Reasons Why Both Of You Suck" Speech, rejecting his arguments and making clear that yes, Chloe was fully aware of what she was doing and should have to face the consequences of that.
    • It's also spelled out that the responsibility of 'helping' and 'fixing' Chloe does not fall upon Marinette or anyone other than Chloe and her family.
    • Sabrina has started seeing a therapist in order to deal with the Toxic Friend Influence Chloe had upon her. When Adrien pressures her, she admits that she does want to help - her feelings haven't faded despite knowing how one-sided their 'friendship' was - but her counselor has advised her to stay out of the case.
      • When she bursts into tears, Rose is the only one who comforts her. Most of her other classmates feel sorry for her, but the memory of all the ways she assisted Chloe proves difficult for most to overlook, making things awkward.
    • Marinette informs Adrien that since Chloe has repeatedly stolen from her, she would be well within her rights to have filed charges against her.
    • It's also revealed that, as a direct result of Chloe's actions as Miracle Queen, those she exposed as temporary heroes and their families are having to consider going into protective custody or moving away from Paris.
  • Miraculous! Rewrite:
    • While Chloe is honestly committed to becoming a better person after her Near-Death Experience with Stoneheart, that doesn't stop her from struggling along the road to redemption. She backslides into bad habits when stressing out or otherwise frustrated, and those around her have trouble accepting the idea that she's truly sincere about changing. This is especially true when it comes to someone like Amber, who hasn't been around to witness her efforts.
      • Come Season 3, Chloe gets a particularly harsh reminder that all her Character Development hasn't erased the scars left by her past decisions. While she's stopped treating Sabrina as her Beta Bitch, she's unintentionally neglected their friendship, causing her akumatization into Ex-Friend... and even after she's healed, Sabrina tells her straight-up that things aren't magically better now that she's no longer the Monster of the Week.
    • The AU's version of "Syren" includes the Fandom-Specific Plot of Adrien losing the Ring after Master Fu overhears his threat to quit, itself a popular form of giving Canon a reality check. However, unlike many of these "salt" fics, Adrien's worst qualities have NOT been amplified. As a result, instead of blaming everyone else involved, he recognizes his mistakes and the consequences of his actions, gaining some critical Character Development in the process.
    • Hawkmoth gets hit hard with this during the Queen's Battle Arc, as his decisions come back to haunt him. Having convinced Nathalie to join him on his quest by appealing to her love for her sister Emile, he finds that he can't simply take that back once it no longer suits his purposes. He attempts to quit being Hawkmoth, only for Nathalie to take up the Brooch herself and deliver a blistering "The Reason You Suck" Speech.
  • Miraculous: Tales of Bella Rossa and Cat Noir starts with Marinette’s parents dying when she’s just 5 years old. Despite her grandfather being the most convenient choice for a guardian, his Jerkass and Honor Before Reason tendencies causes Social Services to reject him as a suitable parental figure.
  • When Marinette is turned into a championnote  in Nymph and the Corrupted Miraculous her friends are able to easily figure out its her because A) her hairstyle remained the same B) the champion's outfit had French and Chinese elements much like Marinette has French and Chinese heritage and C) Marinette can't walk, and the champion never used their legs the whole fight.
  • Of Patience and Pettiness:
  • In Helpfulness with a Side of Pettiness, Lila's downfall comes about when she learns that due to the amount of school she's skipped, along with the makeup work she's been ignoring, her grades have slipped to the point that the school is no longer willing to grant her further leaves of absence, and she's in real danger of being held back a year.
  • One step backwards and Three forwards:
    • Alya wished to become an Intrepid Reporter with a supernatural sense for finding fantastic stories. What she failed to consider is how many enemies she'd be making along the way — and in the rewritten reality, Ladybug is no longer active, meaning she's no longer got a superhero around to bail her out of trouble.
      • Alya protects herself mainly by abusing the Fox Pendant's illusion-crafting magic to keep herself hidden. But that doesn't stop her enemies from targeting others in order to get at her, such as attacking her school.
    • Lila leads the superhero-adoring Adrien to believe that she is the mysterious and secretive Dame Papillion. When Gabriel learns about the new Butterfly heroine and discovers that the Brooch is gone, he naturally assumes that she stole it from him, and takes pains to remind her that he holds power over her.
    • No active Ladybug means no Miraculous Cure to provide a magical Reset Button. In addition, since Dame Papillion regularly busies herself by empowering Champions at various hospitals, using the Miraculous Cure runs the risk of canceling the good she's done as well. This means that when Black Cat accidentally vaporizes the Eiffel Tower during a battle, it stays gone... and Paris is naturally furious with the villain responsible for this.
  • ChaoticNeutral's Salt Series has three chapters that all delve into possible scenarios for this trope to ensue with Lila's lies.
    • Chapter 1 centers on Nino who discovers that trusting Lila to put him in contact with a director so he can show said director the film he was making for a contest instead of finishing the film for the contest or submitting a copy of the finished product means he missed out on a legitimate chance to get his work recognized focusing on one that didn't exist.
      • Adrien also gets bitten by this trope when Nino, understandably, reacts badly to finding out his best friend knew Lila was a liar and said nothing, completely cutting Adrien out of his life (Alya is also pissed at Adrien for this). Conversely, Marinette proves herself both by not saying "I told you so" and by entering Nino's unfinished project to the contest for him, netting him favorable comments and an honorable mention.
    • Alya's lack of fact-checking, borderline illegal antics in "Lady Wifi", general disregard for privacy and ethics and relentless pursuit of Ladybug's real identity get the Ladyblog labeled as a tabloid by one of her idols. And posting her interview with Lila, which was full of holes that even a cursory examination would have uncovered, was the final nail in the coffin.
    • Lila's mother is not remotely happy to find out that her daughter has been lying to her for months and waves Lila's diplomatic immunity so she can be punished for truancy. Then when Lila tries to attack her mother, she's charged with assault since she did this in front of multiple witnesses, causing Lila's whole life to fall apart.
      • And despite all of the above, Lila's Compulsive Liar tendencies remain in full effect and when they fail, she sees her mother's actions as a betrayal because she's completely self-centered.
    • The fourth chapter of the Salt Series, meanwhile, takes a harsh look at the potential long-term consequences of Ms. Bustier's teaching style through the lens of what happened to one of her former classes.
      • Her insistence on placing the burden of 'leading through example' on her best-behaved students and expecting them to cater to their classmates has led to Vivienne, her guest speaker, requiring years of therapy in order to regain her ability to assert herself. Other former 'model students' weren't so lucky. One is trapped in an abusive relationship, convinced he can help them become a better person. Another suffered an overdose on drugs they were taking to cope with the burden of trying to solve everyone else's problems.
      • The rest of her students found themselves ill-equipped to deal with the world outside their classroom and authority figures unwilling to 'bend the rules' or offer them leeway for all their bad behavior. Bustier made them overly dependent not just upon her leniency, but on her 'model students'; without Vivienne or other 'fixers' bending over backwards to accommodate and assist them, many of them have wound up floundering and struggling along.
      • The Chloe analogue is specifically noted to have been repeatedly arrested for public disturbances — turns out that throwing tantrums and making scenes isn't actually the best way to get what you want.
      • Another former student has become a Cowboy Cop, which causes many of the cases she works on to get thrown out, due to her refusing to follow proper procedures while chasing her 'hunches'.
  • Salt Trope Parody is a series of one-shots that deconstructs many of the Fandom Specific Plots seen in “salt” fanfics, as well as the kind of person Marinette is portrayed as in those sorts of stories.
    • “Reliance”: A popular plot point is that Marinette stops helping her classmates to teach them a lesson for believing Lila over her, and without her helping out as class president, the class fails miserably at everything and cannot do fun activities. In STP, the class is perfectly capable of handling things without her, as they all are hardworking individuals with their own talents in art and academics, and not the needy leeches they are in salt fics.
      • The class is shown in most salt fics to be nothing more than Gullible Lemmings for believing Lila over Marinette, and Alya is a False Friend for not listening to Marinette’s warnings. “Reliance” points out that the reason the class believes Lila is because they are kind people who will naturally want to help a crying girl, and they know that Marinette is indeed a Clingy Jealous Girl who has done crazy things in the name of her crush. Heck, her warning to Alya about Lila began with Marinette admitting that she stalked Adrien! And Alya is the bad guy for acknowledging that Marinette isn’t perfect?
    • “Karma” explains Adrien’s advice on the high road a bit better.
      • Adrien believes Lila lies about her celebrity connections because she is insecure of her place in the class, because everyone there has their own acclaim. After all, the class includes an upcoming designer, the mayor’s daughter, a teen Fashion Model, the creator of a popular blog, a band who got signed by Bob Roth, a popular comic’s illustrator, and a girl who regularly texted a prince. In his eyes, it makes sense that Lila would lie about her own life to fit in better.
      • Adrien is also aware of how Lila twists the narrative if anyone tries to directly out her. If you call her out aggressively, like Marinette does, Lila is able to use the aggression to her favor and make it look like she was being bullied, just for claiming an injury, so that it looks like you’re making fun of a disabled person.
    • “Information” defends him further by pointing out that Adrien had no idea that Lila threatened Marinette in the bathroom. Marinette chose to withhold this important information from him even after he told her to take the high road. Furthermore, even though his advice was poor, she was the one who willingly took it, even after knowing Lila was a vicious bully, and what she planned to do to her and their friends. Her not telling Adrien how cruel and ruthless Lila was, and letting her get close to him and their friends without warning them about what she was capable of, makes her even more of a fickle, unreliable friend than she claims Adrien to be.
    • Another popular plot point is Marinette reaching her breaking point and disproving Lila by transforming in front of her whole class and ranting about what a bitch Lila is. In the fourth chapter “Reveal”, she does just this. And Lila, with her hatred for both Marinette and Ladybug, her backstabbing, underhanded nature, and her modern technology, records Marinette detransforming and posts it on social media to reveal her identity to the rest of world, Hawkmoth naturally included. All this just so Marinette could expose a liar to her class, something she could have just done in a interview as Ladybug, without blowing her secret.
  • The Short-Legged Vixen starts with an alternate take to the episode "Volpina", resulting in this trope multiple times:
    • Ladybug has no idea who Lila is or why she's talking to Adrien when she drops down at the park... And still exposes her lies by simply having no idea who her supposed best friend is, before telling Alya about it.
    • It continues with the next chapter: as her lies were (accidentally) exposed to the whole school, Lila has become a social pariah that nobody trusts... Meaning that when she resists Akumatization without witnesses nobody will believe her if she tells.
    • Right after resisting Akumatization, Lila discovers that Ladybug and Chat Noir have been following her around because, after so many Akumatizations caused by people having an emotional trauma, they expected her to be next.
    • Lila is having trouble with Alya and Chloe's last names, as they resemble Italian words (she initially takes Alya's last name as "Cesare" after the Italian name of Julius Caesar and later mispronounces it as "Cesayre", and confuses Chloe's last name with its direct Italian equivalent). At the same time the French characters consistently put the accent of her name on the second syllable instead than the first (something that actually happens in the Italian dub), and she's actually surprised when Chloe (who lives in Paris' best hotel and is familiar with foreign visitors) pronounces it right.
    • After a week of being treated like a pariah, Lila is approached by a Stalker with a Crush, who expects her to go out with him out of gratitude. She instead blows up at him, and when his phone is discovered to include a picture of her in the bathroom he's in even hotter waters with her... And the school administration, as Ladybug wasted no time in snatching it and bringing it to the principal.
  • In Supervillain Backstabber, this happens several times over:
    • Lila, akumatized into Volpina again, attempts to trick Ladybug and Chat Noir by disguising herself as Rena Rouge. The plan fails the moment she approaches them because she wasn't aware that the temporary heroes are given their Miraculous on a case-by-case basis. Something Hawkmoth apparently knows, but wasn't able to advise her about, because she didn't bother telling him anything about her plan other than how great it supposedly was before putting it into action.
    • She spends a great deal of time attempting to triangulate the location of Hawkmoth's lair by analyzing what direction the butterflies come from. This proves to be incredibly boring work, and she has trouble coming up with excuses to cover where she's staking out.
    • As part of her plan, she disguises herself and swipes the Bee Miraculous. How does she manage this? By watching for Chloe's Bee Signal, knowing that if the heroes wanted to bring Queen Bee into battle, they'd have to go to her. After forcing Pollen to tell her all of the Bee's powers and training for two weeks, she confronts Hawkmoth... and finds herself severely outclassed. Clever and cunning as she believes herself to be, Lila is still a teenager with little experience fighting an adult on his home turf. And not only is Hawkmoth strong enough to have fought both Ladybug and Chat Noir during "Heroes' Day", he has missiles. Lila finds herself getting blasted around while he mocks her efforts, and the only reason he doesn't get the Bee is because the missiles attracted Ladybug and Chat's attention.
    • Following the fight, Lila comes to in the hospital and learns that Chloe and her father intend to press charges for her stealing the Bee Miraculous. Even then though, the nurse notes it’s unlikely to go anywhere as the public would see it as them throwing a tantrum and the public being happy that Hawk Moth is gone. However later it is shown likely the case would go forward when more serious charges are brought towards her.
    • She also discovers that while the Bee protected her from dying due to the missile barrage, she started to detransform before hitting the wall, leaving her with severe spinal damage.
  • Tax Evasion is a long series of these:
    • Years after the start of Hawk Moth's attacks, Ladybug managed to discover his secret identity as Gabriel Agreste and capture him... But she didn't catch him in the act, so the prosecution has to rely entirely on her testimony. The defense lawyers have little issues discrediting it, especially after Ladybug admits she's in a romantic relationship with Adrien and they feared Gabriel would oppose it and thus appears to be a biased witness, and Gabriel walks out free even as much of the public believes Ladybug.
    • On the other hand, when Gabriel was arrested his supervillain lair was exposed, and after the trial the prosecutors quickly realize he couldn't have paid for it and go after him for tax evasion.
    • Lila's lies have been exposed long ago... But since she stopped lying when she was still in high school and by the story she's already completed college, nobody really cares, with Lila, now a paralegal, making an Evil Lawyer Joke at her own expense over it and having long reconciled with Marinette and even having a past romantic fling with her.
      • The only one who still cares a bit is Max, and that's more about his embarrassment about falling for one of Lila's wildest lies.
    • Before pressing charges against Gabriel, the lawyers put a lot of work to make the case airtight, making sure that at one point he's have to either sustain the charges against him or get caught for perjury. This time he's sentenced to fifteen years with possibility of parole and a 500,000 Euros fine.
    • Before the research for the trial even starts Lila mentions she had a falling out with Gabriel, and still holds a grudge. During the actual trial her role in researching and preparing the charges isn't mentioned, as while she did an impartial job she could still be accused to be a biased witness and ruin the prosecution's case.
  • Telling Lies? No, Mama: This trope, combined with Laser-Guided Karma, happens to Lila many times in the story:
  • The Trial of Hawk Moth starts with one. Someone noticed a drone heading for Hawk Moth’s lair in Dark Owl, allowing for the police to follow it and find their man.
    • The eponymous trial itself has to be conducted out of the city with a judge sent from the United Nations. With Hawk Moth’s Hated by All status in Paris, any judgement the city could pass on him would be a Kangaroo Court at best.
    • The case against Gabriel falls apart quickly, since Ladybug always removes any evidence of their battles with her World-Healing Wave. In addition, since no-one but Gabriel’s closest ally have any memories of being akumatised, no-one can provide any testimony against him. And Ladybug won’t show up in the court, since she refuses to share her Secret Identity, which only makes Gabriel look even more innocent.
  • True Friends features Alya deciding that Marinette, Chloe and Juleka are lying about being vegan because she saw them eating burgers at Burger King (they were actually eating the Impossible Whopper tofu burgers) and secretly mixes real meat into a synthetic meat meal they end up eating with Alix. Since Alix is the only one who knows what actual meat tastes (Marinette became vegan at 5, Chloe 7 and Juleka 9), she quickly realizes what happened and gets her friends to stop eating it. Even then, all of them have to spend several days in the hospital due to their bodies no longer being able to cope with meat proteins. Then when Alya and Adrien deliberately provoke Marinette into having an anxiety attack, Lila, who was not only pissed about the Tampering with Food and Drink since that nearly killed her mother but also had an older sister die because of an anxiety attack Lila didn't know how to handle, cuts all ties to them both and the rest of the class is pissed at both of them.
  • In A True Hero of Paris, when Gabriel Agreste is accused of sexually harassing Lila (which she gleefully encourages), things start off looking bleak for Gabriel but once he whips out his team of lawyers and all the evidence he's gathered about Lila, she is swiftly made a pariah.
    • A two-fold one with Marinette's reaction to Adrien asking her to expose Lila. She initially is spiteful and parrots his bad advice about Lila back at him but ultimately admits that it was petty of her to insult someone who needs a supportive friend. Marinette may be human but in the end, she's too much of a Nice Girl to let someone suffer if she can help them.
    • Since Gabriel's main contact with Adrien's classmates is when he's akumatizing them, he thinks of them as selfish brats who need only a nudge from him to start behaving like a psychopath if they're ever slighted. He also didn't trust the police with his evidence because of Roger's akumatization.
    • When the truth comes out, while Adrien does forgive his friends, he has no intention of forgetting how easily they were swayed by Lila's lies and he and Marinette plan to keep Nino and Alya at arm's length for a long time.
  • In Underestimation, Lila tries to pull a Wounded Gazelle Gambit in order to ruin Marinette's reputation. Most "salt fics" would have the class fall for it hook, line, and sinker; here, however, they actively question what she says because bullying someone like that would be a massive out of character moment for Marinette. It's also pointed out that there have been a number of akumatized villains in the past who have attempted to ruin people's reputations by looking like them, so it's possible that Lila's "attacker" was an akuma out to ruin Marinette's. In the end, Lila is forced to concede that she may have simply mistaken her "attacker" for Marinette.
  • Unsatisfied: Self-Destruct has Alya waking up after a three month-long coma. Rather than an akuma being responsible, she had the misfortune of running into a regular, perfectly human criminal while she was trying to livestream the latest akuma attack... a criminal armed with a knife. One who freaked out when he saw her with a live camera, and tried to silence her.
  • In Verisimilitude, Alya is hit with this trope after posting her interview with Lila. Her viewers tear apart Lila's lies and criticize Alya for posting the video without verifying, leading to the Ladyblog's reputation taking a hit.

  • ChaoticNeutral's Salt Series has Alya's lack of fact-checking, borderline illegal antics in "Lady Wifi", general disregard for privacy and ethics and relentless pursuit of Ladybug's real identity get the Ladyblog labeled as a tabloid by one of her idols. And posting her interview with Lila, which was full of holes was the final nail in the coffin.

    The Most Popular Girls In School 

    My Hero Academia 
  • Ara Ara:
    • All-Might is upset to learn Izuku seemingly told Burnin' about One For All, only for Burnin' to point out that he tends to speak very loudly about secret information in very public places, so of course she overheard him.
    • When All-Might tells Nezu that Burnin' knows about One For All with an ominous "She knows", it takes Nezu a few tries to guess which secret she's learned, citing that All-Might has much more than just one secret.
  • In Build Yourself Up (Don't Let Them Break You Down), Hawks chastises the heroes on scene for not saving Bakugo, in front of the press. Aldera's principal notes how the three now look like idiots for standing around and waiting for someone else to do their job while a minor was being attacked. In canon, how they looked after the incident was never brought up but in the real world, law enforcement standing aside as a violent crime was committed would be terrible PR. Especially as Midoriya's contribution was simply attacking the villain's eyes.
    • It's not just bad PR, the commission actually plans to hand out reprimands for failure to act, from which Kamui Woods is exempt as his Quirk really did make him more vulnerable, and unprofessional behavior for reprimanding Izuku before giving a police report. Backdraft is only avoiding either as he said nothing to Izuku and had to deal with the fires being caused by Bakugo's Quirk.
    • A major reason why the heroes present at the Sludge Villain incident look so bad and Izuku looks so good is because Hawks publicly commented on it. As the No. 3 hero who made a meteoric rise in popularity and effectiveness, his opinions matter to a lot of people and his endorsement or criticism can make or break someone's career.
    • Unlike other fics where the dynamic shifts to make Izuku popular, his teachers are under no illusion that Izuku would not dislike them.
    • Finding a specific person in a city is near impossible without their address. Toshinori has no idea where Izuku lives, and the various methods that he could use to find out have major flaws. Using his connections would raise major red flags and a paper trail and waiting by Izuku's school would not be taken to kindly. So even though he's decided to choose Izuku as his successor, he has no way to actually contact him.
  • Buried Fuse has Katsuki blast Izuku point-blank with his quirk during a second-year training exercise. This sends Izuku straight to the hospital in critical condition, and gets Katsuki into serious trouble, especially when it becomes clear that he knew Izuku was there and deliberately feigned ignorance in order to lure him closer first.
  • Class of Bun-A:
    • While satisfying, Rumi punting Mineta during the entrance exam for his perverted comments nets her a significant penalty to her score and mandatory anger managment sessions.
    • Bakugou lands in significant trouble for attacking Izuku during the Quirk Assessment. Nedzu expels him from the Hero Course and plans to have him fitted with Quirk suppressant cuffs. Finally, Nedzu declares that if Bakugou doesn't attend weekly therapy sessions or has even one more incident, he's going to jail.
    • Ochako and Rumi almost immediately figure out Toshinori Yagi is All Might after Izuku is injured, noting that not only are both blonde and wearing the same clothes, but there's no way All Might would leave an injured student so quickly.
    • After Izuku is healed from Bakugou's attack, he's informed that due to basically being slapped with an explosion, he'll have some level of hearing loss on his left side.
    • Rather than simply scold Izuku for breaking his bones, Recovery Girl demands All Might train him how to properly use One For All or call Gran Torino to do so. When All Might makes it clear he doesn't want to call Gran Torino, she does so for him, citing she won't let a student keep maiming himself because All Might's "too much of a coward".
  • In All For Power, when asked why he had his companies remake the Quirk Erasing chemical, Izuku explains that Overhaul's lack of discretion regarding his Quirk erasing bullets meant that everyone knew it was possible. Given what a massive game changer such a product is, it was only a matter of time until someone managed to create their own version. By the time his product is finished, there were five others being tested.
  • Conversations with a Cryptid:
    • Recovery Girl having a powerful healing quirk doesn't excuse her to practice without a medical license or not following the medical hierarchy. The Japanese Medical Association assists in Inko's lawsuit against Yuuei when they find out the scope of Recovery Girl's unintentional abuse of power. The Japanese Medical Association promise to enforce medical laws more fiercely to avoid such abuse of power by the hero industry.
    • When Izuku injured himself during his fight with Todoroki during the Sports Festival, someone in the audience did call an ambulance.
    • Just because Yuuei is a top hero school doesn't mean they're allowed to make themselves their students' sole source of medical treatment or make medical decisions on their students' behalf without parental permission. When Yuuei refused to send their students to actual hospitals to medical treatment, many medical professionals noticed and students outright died due to this policy. When one student died, their mother attempted to sue the school. Inko successfully sues Yuuei in a class-action lawsuit because they gave Izuku surgery without even asking her, his mother and legal guardian. Unfortunately for Yuuei, that woman combined forces with Inko and Japanese Medical Association to make the lawsuit very public and cause media outcry.
    • Criminal organizations like the League of Villains cost money to run. Part of the investigation is where All for One gets his money from and what companies launder his money.
    • One of the main reasons Deku can't just run to the cops about how his dad is a mass murdering supervillain is that it getting out would ruin his mother's life despite her complete ignorance to the whole thing. On a related note, All Might and Tsukauchi can't get him because All for One in a legal sense didn't kidnap Deku or hold him against his will. As far as the law is concerned, Hisashi Midoriya decided to rejoin his son's life after he nearly died and help him recover from a major surgery. And aside from talking about his double life and nearly killing people who've wronged his family, All for One treats Deku like any loving father would treat his son.
    • A lot of the kids are traumatized from the USJ and the Training Camp attack and Toshinori has to convince the faculty to hire actual mental health professionals.
  • Coyote:
    • Izuku points out how impractical Midnight's outfit is, noting how high heels and tearaway cloth make for a horrible hero costume. He also notes that using air pumped nozzles would not only address the stated reason for why her costume is designed the way it is but would also improve her Quirk's efficiency.
      • Riley also chimes that continuing to use her current costume won't help her maintain her looks, which are a big part of her hero image.
    • Aizawa's handling of the Quirk assessment test runs into several realistic outcomes that he didn't encounter in canon:
      • Aizawa's threat to expel the worst performing student ultimately leads to the entire class dropping out because none of them want to risk their futures on the whims of a petty Jerkass who kicked out an entire class for not meeting his standards, which they had been warned of ahead of time. They may be striving to be heroes but you are not going to entrust achieving your goal to someone who acts like that, especially after they prove a warning you received about them right.
      • Aizawa revealing that Izuku actually passed the test and claiming the expulsion threat was a ruse isn't seen as a sign of triumph like in canon. Riley is infuriated that Izuku was basically led into maiming himself for no reason by a teacher. The claim about the ruse also helps the class decide to leave because it served as validation for an earlier warning.
      • Aizawa's expelling an entire class from a few years ago and his threat that he can do so with the current one isn't seen as The Spartan Way like in canon. The rest of the faculty are incensed, noting that parents, alumni, sponsors, and even the Ministry of Education are going to tear strips out of the school for an entire class being expelled on the first day.
      • When Aizawa tries justifying his harshness towards Izuku by pointing out the boy's lack of control over his Quirk, All Might angrily fires back that Aizawa knew that Izuku lacked that kind of control and it's Aizawa's job to teach him how to gain it, not punish him for what he hasn't learned yet.
      • Nedzu notes that the entire class dropping out wasn't out of solidarity (except for Riley and Uraraka, who did it out of personal loyalty to Izuku) but because all of them were warned ahead of time how strict Aizawa could be and how likely he was to expel them if they didn't meet his criteria. There aren't going to be close bonds between a bunch of people who had only just met in the morning for the first time.
      • Izuku and Riley are incredibly cynical and mistrusting towards teachers because of how many have actively worked against them in reaching their goals, to the point they had to become Properly Paranoid in order to even make it to U.A. They're naturally suspicious and wary once they actually make it into the school and look into who their prospective teachers will be, discovering Aizawa may prove to be a problem. They were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt right up to the point where he legitimized their worries.
      • The results of Aizawa expelling an entire class are shown. Half of them went to seek schooling at other hero schools while badmouthing the school to the press over it. The other half either wound up not finishing their education and scraping by on minimum wage, dropping out completely and becoming villains, or committing suicide. Getting expelled from such a prestigious school is not just a matter of "you aren't cutting it here": either other rival schools will seek to get their hands on such talent or no other school will touch them because of who did the booting out. One commenter mentions that in a highly competitive society like Japan, being expelled from a school can lead someone to be Driven to Suicide.
      • It gets pointed out that Aizawa's teaching methods are very much Awesome, but Impractical, showing that while the students that do pass go on to become incredible heroes it's often at the cost of nearly twice as many being kicked out because they don't meet Aizawa's standards. Nedzu also raises the issue that part of why Aizawa is so lauded as a teacher is that he tends to get students that qualify as prodigies who he doesn't have to invest much effort in actually teaching while dismissing anyone of lesser talent.
      • It's pointed out that in addition to all the other flaws he has, he constantly sleeps in class and looks slovenly in the extreme.
    • When Momo talks about her Quirk to the class, Izuku points out that it can't work the way that she thinks it does, turning body fat into different forms and materials, because with the mass of the objects in the Assessment test alone (at least 100 kilos), she'd have killed herself from losing all that body mass at once. Izuku instead proposes that the body fat is just metabolized as part of whatever process produces the materials from where they're actually coming from.
    • In a world where Everyone is a Super, Japanese culture has been forced to become at least somewhat more accepting of counseling than in our world instead of viewing it as "shameful" because a significant amount of Quirks can run amok under the influence of unstable emotions.
    • With how much people are conditioned from childhood in civilized countries against hurting each other, combined with the prevalence of potentially lethal superpowers, it's not uncommon, especially among new or upcoming Heroes, for people to mentally limit their abilities out of fear of hurting others like Riley does. His canine features also didn't help.
  • Crimson and Emerald:
    • Correlation doesn't equal causation. It's revealed the double-jointed toe equaling Quirklessness is an old wives' tale that people happened to believe a lot in. Quirklessness like real life genetic factors has a lot of complicated factors going into it.
    • If Quirklessness is treated like a disability, then it should have been verified by at least three doctors like actual disabilities are.
    • Had Yuuei known that Bakugou suicide-baited Izuku, Bakugou would have been put on probation at best or outright rejected. Suicide-baiting someone is not acceptable behavior.
    • Connections and reputation matter in order to succeed. Bakugou realizes this the hard way when his past as a bully costs him a prestigious internship.
    • Tenya and Izuku drift apart from Ochako due to the Stain Incident intensifying the boys’ friendship and having no time for her due to their internships.
    • Despite Yuuei treating the Sports Festival as Serious Business for their students to get noticed in the industry, in the long term no one truly cares about the Sports Festival. The media cares more about current events so Bakugou is quickly shoved out of the spotlight in favor of the Hosu Quartet. Who helped captured Stain and are the interns of new number Two hero Hawks.
    • Inko, Hawks, and All Might strong arm Endeavor into signing custody of his son Shouto over to them, or else they will go public with his abusive behavior. When Endeavor tries to protest, they point out that a). they have years' worth of actual evidence, b). that All Might's status as the Symbol of Peace, combined with Hawks' as the current Number Two Hero, give their word plenty of weight, and c). that Endeavor is so unpopular due to his recklessness and bad attitude that it wouldn't be hard to convince anyone that he's a domestic abuser, especially since it's public knowledge that he doesn't get along with his children, his wife is in a mental hospital, and his eldest son is dead. He's not, but everyone thinks he is. When Endeavor points out that revealing his actions would collapse the entire hero system, Inko coldly replies that she doesn't care, as it was that very same system that allowed Endeavor to get way with his terrible behavior for years.
    • Just because Enji had to two separate women as best friends doesn’t mean he doesn’t hold misogynistic beliefs. Which reared its ugly head when he fully expected them to support him despite their objections over his abuse of his wife.
    • The Heroics Commission may be powerful but even they have to answer to the Japanese Government. Once the Japanese Government is made aware of the Commission's corruption, many of them are fired and facing criminal charges.
  • In Dark Light, Quirks changed the world in a lot of ways. Because of how incredibly common superpowers were, most sports and sporting events (including the Olympics) became defunct with the only surviving ones being either sports that drew a lot of betting (such as horse races and boxing) or ones that could be adapted for quirks.
    • Twice someone comes across a fight and misinterprets what's going on due to the appearance of the combatants. First, Izuku accidentally saves Toga from one of her victims due to her being a schoolgirl and her victim being an obvious delinquent. Later, Mei sees a man with sharp teeth and another covered in darkness fighting and tazes the latter, not realizing it's Izuku fighting a serial killer.
  • Death Need Not Apply:
    • When The Zone that prevents death and heals all injuries first appears, it takes some time for people to notice, but people eventually figure out that they can't die and start taking advantage of the fact. Over time, things spiral out of control people no longer fear the consequences of their actions: from using their Quirk in public all the way to slashing someone's throat over a petty argument. It takes years for things to settle into something approaching peace as a result.
    • One of the things that calmed villainy within The Zone? A two-strike policy. Anyone caught committing a crime would be branded before being exiled from The Zone. Anyone who returns and commits another crime would be taken outside The Zone and executed. Being reminded that they're only immortal while inside The Zone caused most to swear off any form of villainy.
    • With death no longer a factor within The Zone, heroics shifted focus towards catching villains and preventing property damage. When even decapitation is little more than a temporary inconvenience, people began placing more value on their possessions than their lives.
    • Many people outside The Zone have a hard time adjusting to life within it. On the one hand, life is largely unchanged from normal cities, with people still going to work and school or hanging out with friends. On the other hand, most people within The Zone think nothing of resorting to murderous violence with little reason. For example, Bakugou killed Izuku numerous times throughout their childhood and neither finds that fact unusual. Furthermore, medical research massively leaped forward as many people are willing to undergo any kind of horrific procedure so long as they're given enough painkillers beforehand, knowing they'll be perfectly healed no matter what happens.
  • The Devil of UA:
    • Due to the strain of using their quirks, Izuku and Katsuki resort to hand-to-hand combat during their match at the Sports Festival. Izuku's attacks are well precise and aimed due to taking up Martial Arts, whilst Katsuki's, who has no such training, are strong but sluggish and easy to predict leading to Izuku beating him at it.
    • What happens when Katsuki goes and attacks him after the match, in front of a stadium filled with thousands and millions watching worldwide? He gets expelled. Combined with his vulgar attitude, past incidents that he had been involved in as well as refusing to change his ways, it was the straw that broke the camel's back as Nezu finally has enough and expels him.
  • In canon, Bakugou injuring Izuku is never treated seriously but Dig Your Heels In points that it takes one wrong move for Bakugou to accidentally maim Izuku. The fact Bakugou didn't kill Izuku is because Izuku managed to move away on time so his shoulder and ear were hit instead the major veins of his neck. After that Bakugou is seen as a villain-in-the-making since he crossed the line by seriously injuring Izuku with his quirk by Inko, the media and his middle school. Which turns Bakugou from the popular kid to a dangerous social pariah.
  • In The Emancipators: After Katsuki scars one of his classmates during a training exercise, Aizawa lectures him in front of the whole class and gives him detention and lessons on why assault is unacceptable, making clear that his behavior will not be tolerated. He also makes a point of monitoring him more closely.
    • The basic premise of Izuku despising Katsuki. In canon, he holds no hard feelings, but in a real-life situation, a person would have many more negative feelings towards a long-time bully.
    • For pretty much all his life, Izuku's only friend was his mom. So when he befriends Ochako and Tenya, he basically latches onto them, turning them into his Living Emotional Crutches. After tasting what having friends feels like, Izuku is terrified of losing them since he desperately doesn't want to go back be a friendless loner.
  • In canon, the nomus' exposed brains are treated as a horrifying feature at most. In El Araihrah, this is treated like the massive weak spot it is. Mineta, of all people, kills the USJ nomu with the help of a zippo lighter by setting one of his hairballs on fire and hitting the nomu in the head with it. The beast is too stupid to remove it and dies with no fight in less than one minute. The oversight is so glaring that All for One mentions later that every nomu is being fitted with a helmet.
  • In Emerald Fangs, when his classmates learn that Izuku has to drink blood to power his Quirk, they're slightly weirded out but quickly get over it. Iida mentions that not only is it similar to his own Quirk that's powered by citric acid, there are so many different Quirks out there that it's not that unusual.
  • The Emerald Phoenix:
    • After both Bakugo and Todoroki unleash massive, uncontrolled attacks during the heroes vs villains exercise, All-Might explains that such attacks are a terrible idea indoors for both heroes and villains. Besides the greater risk of injuriing yourself or your allies, villains run the risk of destroying their own stronghold while heroes get faced with massive property damage they're obligated to pay for.
      • Bakugo and Todoroki are both on thin ice for using such attacks against classmates. Todoroki gets off relatively lightly because he's obviously horrifed at his loss of control but is still required to write a three page essay on what he did wrong.
    • Todoroki proves to be over-confident in his own ability and assumes his overwhelming power will earn him an easy win in the heroes vs villains exercise. He quickly loses because he disregarded that both his opponents have Quirks best used for support and deception. While he broke free of Sero's and Camie's trap, All-Might remarks that against real villains, he'd have likely gotten his throat slit the moment he was captured.
  • In evolutionary, endpoint, Izuku unleashes the full power of One for All as a seven-year-old. Doctors have to amputate the arm he used because the bone was irreparably shattered.
  • For the Want of a Nail Series:
    • Deku? I think he's some pro...: Has its own page.
    • Mastermind: Strategist for Hire: Has its own page.
    • Mastermind: Rise of Anarchy:
      • While the League wants to rescue Izuku, Shigaraki is quick to note that they have to be smart about it as not only was Izuku taken to Tartarus, but the heroes would be on the lookout for a rescue attempt.
      • Prejudice will influence someone's views, as shown when the reporters first response to Mastermind being quirkless is to declare Izuku a decoy for the true Mastermind.
      • Whilst official confirmation is impossible due to Aldera destroying most of his records, Bakugou's general demeanor and disdainful attitude towards Izuku leads to him becoming a social pariah within UA after Mastermind's arrest.
    • Viridian: The Green Guide:
      • Izuku sets out to become a vigilante, but quickly learns he has no actual relevant skills and is forced to bring heroes to the crimes he finds.
      • When Izuku is brought into the hospital with obvious signs of someone beating him and presenting a different story than his mother, the doctors take the time to ask him if he's being abused by his mother.
    • Cheat Code: Support Strategist: Because Izuku is the only one who applied for the Intelligence and Analytics course, Powerloader puts him in 1-F with the invention students, in addition to taking private lessons with Principal Nedzu, so he can still share a classroom with other students.
    • Shadows: The Horror Movie Heroes: Jirou is understanably suspicious of Toshinori, since she doesn't know who he is, let alone that he's All Might's Secret Identity. When he activates One For All in front of her, she quickly assumes he's a villain with a transformation Quirk and pepper-sprays him.
  • The Gatekeeper:
    • In canon, Aizawa's extremely harsh methods are meant to weed out those with no talent for being heroes before they get themselves or others killed. It's an understandable, if harsh, motive, but it's ultimately lost on everyone in Aizawa's class, who is at least reasonably confident in their potential, and thus end up bitter toward Aizawa for crushing their dreams.
    • Being kicked out on one's first day can be a somewhat traumatizing experience, with the former U.A. students being forced to transfer into new schools. As a result, more than a few parents called U.A. to complain about Aizawa and ask to overturn the expulsions, even knowing that the school wouldn't do it.
    • Having an expulsion on one's record can be detrimental to one's future. A number of people who got expelled blame Aizawa for hindering their attempts to get into college or find employment as heroes.
    • As a result of the above, Aizawa is highly divisive. While he does have his defenders, including at least one student who got expelled, not only are there a number of people who resent him for his willingness to expel students at the drop of a hat, but there are also some people who managed to get through and don't think he's all that good of a teacher.
    • Not helping matters is how Vlad King is apparently less strict with his students, with one student noting that Vlad passed someone who was roughly equal to one of the students Aizawa expelled. As such, some people believe that getting through U.A. is a matter of getting the right teacher.
    • While U.A. allows its faculty a great deal of leeway in how to teach, Nezu finally decides enough is enough, since he recognizes that Aizawa's policy is causing problems even if he can't overturn all the expulsions. Nezu decides to only allow Aizawa to expel the one student who gets last place on the Quirk Apprehension Test- any others will require the principal's approval.
  • A Green Dragon's Hoard: Izuku's massive size and strength caused quite a few problems for his mother's growing up. Most notably, they spent years having to move every several months due to Izuku becoming too big for their current home. Eventually, they simply buy some land near U.A. and have Cementoss make them a home, which he can alter later if need be. They also hire a babysitter, Manami Aiba, to keep an eye on Izuku. Even though he has Nigh-Invulnerability and Inko works from home, they can't keep an eye on him all the time and Manami is there to "keep the cars safe from him".
    • Both Izuku and Manami have to have their clothing custom made for them. Izuku because he's five and a half meters tall at 15, and Manami because she's the size of a small child but is ludicrously curvy.
    • Aizawa expelling an entire class on the first day lands him and U.A. in hot water. Nezu quickly reinstated the entire class, making sure the expulsion isn't on their records, and reassured the parents that Aizawa would be punished for his actions. Aizawa is removed from being the homeroom teacher for the heroics course going forward. While he'll remain the homeroom teacher for those currently enrolled, starting the following year, Nemuri will be taking over as the homeroom teacher.
    • Because Nemuri doesn't skip the guidance sessions like Aizawa did, Shoto is quickly pulled aside to be given more sessions in the future.
    • Ochako's Sizeshifter powers are difficult to train without specialized facilities, leaving her Quirk rather underdeveloped when she starts at UA.
  • Green Tea Rescue:
    • The year before joining UA, Izuku and Ochako are trained by All Might. This gives them a MASSIVE advantage over most of their classmates, who mostly trained on their own. During the Heroes vs Villains exercise, Todoroki noticed that Izuku and Ochako are way too good and immediately guesses a Pro Hero had a hand in their training.
      • Related to this, while Ochako is described as "chubby" in the manga (chubby by Japanese standards, at least), thanks to undergoing the same training as Izuku, she develops a more fit figure with noticeable muscles.
    • One day, Izuku and Ochako decided to continue their training despite the storm that was forming above them. The next day, they woke up with a cold and a fever.
    • For most of her life, Toga always felt she was unwanted, and had a very harsh life. Her parents disowned her, and she basically lived on the streets, begging and stealing to survive. The best she got was Stain tolerating her presence at best, before he finally ditched her. So when Izuku saves her from a bunch of would-be rapists and shows geniune concern for her well being, Toga immediately develops a mad crush on him, and tries to find a way to be with him on a permanent basis.
  • In Helping Hands, in which Izuku didn't get One For All and got into Gen Ed at UA, Bakugo's classmates in 1-A initially assume that "Kacchan" and "Deku" are both affectionate and the pair are old friends roughhousing. When Bakugo uses his Quirk however, all of them quickly shield Izuku and are horrified at the poison Bakugo starts spewing. Likewise, Aizawa is furious at Bakugo's actions and once Bakugo shows himself to have no remorse whatsoever, even claiming Izuku must have cheated to get into UA and that he deserved the attack because he's Quirkless, expels the blond, making it clear he intends to make sure Bakugo never becomes a hero.
    • When Izuku claims Bakugo shouldn't have been expelled, the rest of 1-A are aghast that he thinks this way and Aizawa is very firm that Bakugo doesn't have the right mind set to be a hero if he thinks bullying those weaker than him is acceptable simply because he himself has such a strong Quirk.
    • A Million Is a Statistic is averted as not only does Aizawa specifically spell out what "20% of the population is Quirkless" looks like in actual numbers (in Japan alone, that's twenty-six million people Bakugo thinks deserve to be mistreated and might even mistreat himself) but Ojiro and Jiro both state that they have beloved relatives who are Quirkless.
    • Despite Aizawa's reassurances that none of his other students will ever hurt Izuku, he's still hesitant to trust the truth of this because of all the terrible teachers who let Bakugo run roughshod all over him and the chapter ends with him sobbing from the stress.
  • Despite Izuku's best efforts in Hammerverse, Inko quickly notices his unusual behavior and learns he has a Gender Bender Quirk. While Izuku has a near genius level intellect, he's still a five year old trying to hide something from his attentive mother.
  • Hero Syndrome focuses on three aspiring heroes who dream of following in Izuku's footsteps to become the next Symbol of Peace. But while all three share his drive and determination, Izuku also had the benefit of a million to one change of fortune by meeting All Might. Not benefitting from an incredibly lucky break, each runs into roadblocks that he didn't:
    • The first isn't able to get into U.A., graduating from another school as valedictorian and immediately finding work as a sidekick... only to discover that her boss is Only in It for the Money who deliberately sets up traps, setting out tempting targets and staking out the scene to catch anyone who tries to take advantage. When she tries calling him out, he informs her that there were plenty of other applicants; if she doesn't approve, she can just leave. The market's too flooded with aspiring heroes, and he can easily find somebody who won't protest his methods.
    • The second isn't able to get into any of the regular hero schools due to oversaturation, but is able to get into a for-profit one by taking out a heavy loan. The school goes belly-up after two years, losing its accreditation, and the loan shark blackmails him into taking on dirty jobs for him.
    • The last buys a police scanner, because he's directly inspired by how Izuku has heroic antedotes from his middle-school years. His attempt to help evacuate a burning building ends tragically, as he exhausts himself searching for a bunny, unaware that he's looking for a plushie rather than a beloved pet.
  • Heroes Never Die:
    • Izuku's own Quirk causes him to revive at a predetermined point whenever he dies. While it does give Izuku infinite attempts to get things just right, he also has to be careful not to give out information he shouldn't have. Also, because Izuku doesn't know what point he'll revive at beforehand, he can be tripped up if he revives later than expected, such as when he kills himself early in the villain attack on the USJ, only to revive only a few minutes before he died.
    • Izuku's Quirk has given him serious psychological issues both from being unable to prove it's real, even to himself, and from being forced to repeat a loop too many times. It's made worse by the fact he can't get professional help since not only would he sound crazy, but the level of danger needed for a hero/hero-in-training to have their psychological history released is considerably lower than it is for normal civilians, meaning speaking to a therapist would tank his career.
    • During the attack on the USJ, Tsuyu suggests Izuku used the boat's anchor as a ranged weapon against the villains to knock them out. Izuku tells her that getting hit with that much mass would be fatal for the villains.
    • Despite Aizawa's threat, he doesn't have the power to expel students on a whim, especially after they've already paid tuition. Instead, Mineta was moved to the General Studies course.
  • Horizon: Star Driven:
    • When humans hit The Singularity and they all began manifesting superpowers, culture and technology has stagnated well-over a century because mankind was too busy trying to adjust to this sudden change. By the time Izuku decides to go into space-travel, the entire aerospace engineering branch of science has completely atrophied due to heavy regulations on new forms of technology, extensive budget cuts and lack of interest.
    • Technology is highly regulated due to the kind of threat the support gear industry could pose, since villains could very well become an even bigger threat to society at large if they ever get ahold of the right kind of support gear.
    • Since rocket science like Izuku's Hover Board is so advanced and Izuku is so young, everyone assumes that either he stole "Illegal Technology" or that Izuku is guilty of illegal public quirk usage.
    • While pro-heroes are technically a legal form of law enforcement, they aren't the same as police officers. While police officers aren't legally allowed to use their quirks in the line of duty and pro-heroes can, pro-heroes aren't legally able to "arrest" any of the villains, vigilantes and law-breakers that they detain. When Izuku becomes targeted by pro-heroes when he is flying his Hover Board, they legally have no ground to arrest him for any perceived crime, let alone "resisting arrest".
  • In How Eating a Strange Fruit Gave Me My Quirk a U.A. applicant by the name of Orkaba Ka is denied admittance into U.A. because he gleefully hindered and bullied his fellow applicants during the entrance exams. A hero academy as prestigious as U.A. would never in their right minds allow a Jerkass like that to become a student at their school. note 
  • If I Only Had A Heart:
    • The costs of treating a young boy who lost an arm and an eye of top of having a damaged spine after being put into a medically induced coma are astronomical, forcing the Midoriyas to find cheaper housing.
    • Izuku finds himself begging Aizawa, who happens to be his new neighbor, for hand-to-hand combat training. Izuku struggles with this due to his lack of depth perception caused by missing eye, his weak footing due to his injured spine, and the stiffness of his own movements due to his prosthetic arm.
    • While the adults are in awe after Izuku shows off his new and improved prosthetic arm that's directly linked to his nerves through a spinal implant, they are understandably horrified at the prospect that a kid who hasn't even left elementary school is performing medical experiments on himself without any sort of oversight.
    • Even if your friend is an incredible super-genius, it's still terrifying to help him effectively perform surgery on himself while fearing the worst.
    • No matter how many times you test something, there's always the chance that something will go wrong. Like when Izuku has a seizure after installing his new spinal reinforcements and eye.
    • Aside from the villain attack that left him handicapped, Izuku just hasn't been exposed to danger that isn't self-inflicted. So when he chases down a monster (implied to be a Noumu) that's following Eraserhead, Izuku loses his composure when he comes face to face with it and ends up killing it by setting it ablaze with the Equalizer.
  • In Leviathan (My Hero Academia), Bakugou tries to drown Izuku during a class exercise. Even though Izuku was fine (due to growing gills), he still has to talk his mother down from suing the school for criminal negligence. Afterwards, the only reason Bakugou wasn't expelled was due to Izuku speaking up on his behalf. Even so, he's facing a month's suspension, mandatory anger management classes, and a transfer to a different class. The last is due to the fact the entirety of 1-A hates and/or fears Bakugou after witnessing him try to kill a classmate.
  • Locked In Digital: While Nezu has no problem in allowing Izuku to attend U.A., he does request that Izuku regularly meet with a psychologist, on account of his deep issues after what was pretty much a year in hell.
  • My Hero Academia Entropy:
    • Midoriya tried to transfer to the hero course despite being quirkless and was rejected because it would be too dangerous for someone to be a hero without a quirk.
    • After the Syndicate revealed themselves to the world, the parents and siblings they left behind had their reputations destroyed, lost their jobs, forced to drop out of school, assaulted on the street, and faced social ostracization.
  • My Hero Academia: Mega Izuku: The Null Gravity Buster, based of Uraraka's Quirk, completely removes the effect of Earth's gravity on a target. When Izuku uses it against the Zero Pointer, rather than float comically in the air, it's rocketed out of Earth's atmosphere at several thousand miles per hour due to the planet's revolution around the sun.
  • My Hero Playthrough: Some Quirks are unusual enough to go unactivated for years, such as a hero who's empowered by eating apples but his father was allergic to them, causing his Quirk to go undiscovered until he was sixteen. Similarly, Midnight didn't discover her Quirk until she was a teenager because it was triggered by lust, something she wouldn't have felt when she was four.
    • When Izuku showed that he knew too much about All Might's injuries, UA faculty immediately got his life thoroughly investigated for a connection to All For One or any other Villains. The most they found was a second cousin Izuku has never met who sells bootleg movies and two former classmates who are children of Villains, one reformed and the other estranged. Only after realizing that most of his classmates and even the teachers themselves have stronger links to AFO, did they finally allow themselves to relax. It's real because 1) having a potential link to the biggest criminal in the world would make someone a target of investigation, and 2) lots of people have links to people that aren't necessarily law-abiding, even if they themselves aren't guilty of anything.
    • While Izuku seems to be your regular Nice Guy – and in many, many ways he really is – too much odd stuff happens around him for that to be the whole story and their classmates are slowly but surely catching onto him.
    • Live training in Reflective Dungeons allows Izuku and his Party to quickly improve their combat skills and team coordination. This kind of accelerated progress is very noticeable to observant classmates like Momo. Ami also noticed that Tsuyu suddenly got very good at JSL, which was the result of her spending a bunch of Skill Points on it the day before.
    • Izuku balks at the idea of using his telekinesis to stimulate muscle growth, citing that he wouldn't be able to see what he's doing and has nowhere near the level of fine control necessary to manipulate individual cells safely.
    • One of the things that make people think Izuku had a link to All For One is that Aizawa can't affect his quirk, which makes them think that perhaps he has a quirk that makes him immune to Aizawa, gifted by All For One. This is discarded when it's pointed out that Aizawa is the single greatest non-All Might threat to All For One, with his particular quirk, and it would make no sense for AFO to give out something that nullifies Aizawa's greatest advantage to a random freshman.
    • The Inherited Fry Pan dungeon has several monsters and bosses made out of fire, making it harder for the dungeon party (Ami, Inko, Izuku, Momo, Ochako, and Tsuyu) to fight against because only Ami and Izuku have ranged weaponry. And when they have to free the dungeon core to finish the quest, the chains are so hot that Kyoka and Tsuyu get burns from touching them.
  • When asked in A Parable of Talents (Warning, link is NSFW) who the best fighter in class is, Kirishima first asks if Izuku means who's the most skilled or who would win a fight. He then explains to the confused boy that it doesn't matter if you're a master martial artist if the other guy has a foot and a hundred pounds of muscle on you, citing that professional fighting has weight classes for that exact reason.
    • While sparring with Izuku, Mina quickly notes that his Wouldn't Hit a Girl attitude is sweet but extremely foolish for a hero, especially with how easily flustered he is by women. Any villainess who realizes such a weakness could easily turn on the charm until he's too flustered to react when they go for a killing blow.
  • The Power of Mochi:
    • Izuku's gargantuan height makes him unable to use martial arts, as he can't adapt the proper techniques to fighting opponents several feet shorter than him. He also barely needs technique, as his massive size and muscle mass make even simple attacks from him devastating, with a single kick breaking an opponent's arm.
    • After accidentally killing the Sludge Villain, Izuku has panic attacks for months afterwards whenever he thinks about the incident.
  • In Of Twist Arm and Bended Knee Izuku was transferred to Gen ed. due to his severe lack of self-preservation and lack of control over his Quirk.
  • Quantity of Quirks:
    • In the first oneshot, King of Beasts, Izuku is basically a teenaged version of Kaido in both size and powers. While he is a Lightning Bruiser on par with All-Might even without his Quirk, Izuku's so large that all his clothing has to be custom made and Momo has to make him gear to complete the Quirk Assessment as none of the equipment was built with five and a half meter tall participants in mind. Similarly, Izuku's sheer weightnote  causes tremors every time he walks.
    • Realizing Izuku has been fighting without his Quirk and that said Quirk lets him turn into a massive dragon, Bakugo and Todoroki both have minor mental breakdowns. The former over realizing he will never be able to beat Izuku and the latter over figuring out all his father's efforts were pointless.
    • In the second snippet, It's Always Bunny In Mustafu, Rumi Usagiyama learns about One For All due to All Might's habit of talking about secrets rather loudly, even in public. She's also quick to point out that All Might's workout regime for Izuku will make him strong enough to hold One For All, but he won't actually know how to use it.
    • In the fourth snippet, Bakugo being outed as a bully and Izuku's No-Holds-Barred Beatdown on him are both noted as seriously hurting their public images and will make it harder for them to get internship offers.
  • Quirk: Incubus:
    • Medical science is not perfect and doctors can misdiagnose people, hence why the doctors believed Izuku to be quirkless and never discovered that he has a rare breed of quirk.
    • People with sex quirks are given specialized quirk counselors due to the social ramifications of their unique abilities, as well as particular observation by law-enforcement for fear of the demand for them in human trafficking.
    • Due to the taboo nature of the subject, sex quirks aren't taken all that seriously from a sociological standpoint and people who have them arguably have it worse than quirkless people, Goenma Nakamura targeting Izuku specifically for having a "slut quirk."
    • When the thing that makes you unique requires you to do perverted things, your threshold of shame and embarrassment over nudity and things with sexual connotations is much higher than most other people. This is especially the case when such things are encouraged by a professional who's job is to cater to people with such abilities.
  • Reflex:
    • Despite taking first place in every event of the Sports Festival, Izuku only has the third highest number of internship offers with both Momo and Todoroki getting more. While he displayed impressive skill in the second event, most of the time Izuku simply overpowered any obstacles which is far less impressive to Pro Heroes than Momo who thought around any such obstacles. While Izuku fought hard, he only fought smart against a single enemy and only because he wasn't able to use his Quirks at the time. Meanwhile, Momo used her opponents' own Quirks against them such as using an airhorn to deafen Jiro or tricking Ochako into using her Quirk on Momo's ten foot pole which negated its main weakness as a weapon: its weight. Also, Izuku is a no-name student while Momo is a wealthy heiress and Todoroki is the son of the Number 2 hero. Finally, while Izuku is a fairly skilled Lightning Bruiser, his Quirk isn't very flashy compared to Momo's or Todoroki's.
    • Shinso gets only five internship offers both because his Quirk isn't very flashy and because regardless of Izuku's very public speech about discrimination based on Quirks, many are still leery of someone with a "villainous" Quirk.
    • After losing to Shinso, Bakugo tries to attack him out of rage, only to be knocked out by Midnight. Afterwards, Bakugo is almost expelled, having been previously warned about attacking others outside of training, only being spared because Shinso was given the power to choose and decided to be the bigger man in the situation.
  • Shall We Make A Deal?: After Izuku is badly injured by the Nomu and spends three weeks recovering, he lost a noticeable amount of muscle mass and toning, forcing him to work harder to catch up to where he was before.
  • In Sheep in Wolf's clothing, when All Might shows up to a hostage situation, he causes the gunman to flinch and shoot his hostage, killing him instantly. This is why real-life hostage situations are so delicate. The act of pulling the trigger is much faster than any attempt to disarm someone, so the police have to peacefully convince the gunman to back down.
  • Sleeper Hit AU:
    • Nedzu notes that Aizawa's tendency to expel those he judges as 'lacking potential' had drawn criticism before, only for U.A.'s reputation to shield him from any serious repercussions. This changes after Midoriya/Sleeper Hit reveals his story in an interview: as the first Quirkless Pro Hero, he's high profile enough to draw attention to the problem in a way they can't avoid.
    • It's also noted that Nedzu does not have sole control of U.A.; there's also a Board of Directors to contend with who have worked against efforts to revamp its biased and broken systems, as they've profited from maintaining the status quo.
    • Aizawa's decision to expel the Quirkless Midoriya nearly cost him any chance of becoming a Pro, as the black mark on his record gave other schools an easy excuse to reject his application. The real reason remained obvious, but the expulsion provided a thin veneer of plausible deniability.
    • The fact that Aizawa secretly supported Midoriya does not change the damage he did with his harsh teaching methods. Nobody who learns about this detail accepts it as an excuse; it instead only heightens their disgust at his hypocrisy, as it is explicit proof he knew his actions were immoral.
  • Some Have Greatness Thrust Upon Them: When Mt Lady kicks a villain with a giant Quirk, nothing is made of it in canon. Here Mt Lady caused fatalities in her debut due to her accidentally kicking a villain into an office building, which included Inko. She had her hero license suspended, forced to do remedial training and community service to avoid arrest and barely avoids a lawsuit from her victims. Mt Lady is thankfully repentant and humbled by the experience and is more careful.
  • A common element of the comedy of A Study of Firsts is how twenty very different power sets interact with life in general in range from Bakugo's sweat requiring specific washing machine design to not be explosive or how various quirks require different nutrient requirements for their user to function properly.
  • Tales of Heroism:
  • In Total Command, Izuku's Quirk allows him to grow taller, tougher, and stronger at a superhuman rate but the amount of food he has to eat to do so cuts deeply into his mother's savings. After half a year, Inko notes she'll have to find a better paying job and start paying more attention to sales if she wants to keep them out of the red.
  • The Undead Schoolgirl: Dead Pulse: Has its own page.
  • A What If:
    • In prompt 13, Bakugo continues bullying/assaulting Izuku despite the latter warning him that Bubblegirl was coming to pick him up. Bubblegirl catches him and reports him to the police; even though Izuku refuses to press charges, Bakugo still ends up with a criminal record.
    • In prompt 14, when Bakugo attacks Izuku during the Quirk Assessment, Aizawa immediately expels him from the Hero Course for attacking a fellow student outside of regulated spars.
  • A What If Extended: Teacher:
    • Bakugo immediately attacks Izuku once he realizes that "Deku" is the new Quirk Theory teacher. Izuku later argues that the boy should be expelled for assaulting a faculty member with his Quirk, regardless of Aizawa thinking he has potential. He also points out that Aizawa's teaching methods of lying to students and expelling them with little cause but never offering positive encouragement is borderline child abuse.
    • Izuku's youth causes several people to not take him seriously including teachers and students. While Midnight treats him with proper respect after a reminder that they're colleagues, most of Izuku's classes require he put someone in detention for them to accept him as an authority figure.
  • With Confidence:
    • Just because a person has a quirk, it doesn't make them automatically powerful or capable. Quirks like pulling your eyeballs out or stretching your fingers aren't actually all that useful for heroism, which Izuku points out in his "The Reason You Suck" Speech. This coupled with their terrible personalities meant that most of his classmates probably wouldn't have made it as heroes.
    • Though Izuku refused to tell his mother about how he was being bullied, she was still perfectly aware of what was going on simply because of the expenses involved. Every destroyed schoolbook needed to be replaced, and they went through so many medical supplies that the workers at the stores they bought them from were setting aside bandages and other neccesities specifically for the Midoriyas.
    • Death Arms just standing there doing nothing while Katsuki was being attacked by the Sludge Villain gets him heavy criticism from Izuku, Mitsuki and the public, and his reputation takes a serious hit. Bad quirk matchup or not, a hero acting like a bystander while a kid is about to lose his life is not acceptable.
    • While Izuku's revenge against Hada Shiro is justified and the bully needed to learn a lesson, Nedzu points out that a kid who feels like he has nowhere to go and no options left would probably turn to villainy. He asks Izuku to tone down his response next time.
    • All Might may be the Number 1 hero, but he has no idea how to be a teacher. Spending time with Izuku shows him that he can barely handle his protegee, let alone an entire class of teenagers. Because of this, he requests that Nedzu allow him to be a teaching assistant so he has enough time to learn the ropes.
  • Yesterday Upon The Stair:
    • Just because Todoroki has reconnected with his mother and made friends, doesn't mean Endeavor is any less physically or verbally abusive.
    • Izuku may not object to the way Bakugou treats him, but this does not make it okay. When some adults figure out how toxic it is, they are horrified. This in turn makes Bakugou look even less like a hero because treating people who can't/won't fight back the way he treats Izuku is generally a mark of a villain, or at least, someone like Endeavor.
    • Expanding on this, Aizawa notes that everyone, even the nicest person in the world, has a limit, and Midoriya will only take so much crap from him before abandoning him completely. Seeing as Midoriya is one of the nicer members of the human race in general, Bakugou continuing to treat everyone as beneath him could very well get him killed, as his "allies" decide they aren't going to help him. Again, Aizawa explicitly points this out.
    • Mineta's perverted actions are not heroic traits; instead they are borderline sexual harassment. And while he may have the grades and skills to be a hero, he doesn't have the mindset. This catches up to him when he's caught trying to peep at the training camp. Despite Kouta being hurt due to his actions, Mineta shows no remorse – and when Aizawa overhears him muttering darkly, blaming the kid for his getting caught, he decides that he's given him enough leeway and expels him. In addition, the rest of 1-A isn't particularly broken up about this, with the discomfort he caused still lingering after his expulsion.
    • Even though Todoroki was sabotaged during the Provisional License Exam, he still technically failed because the proctors don't have accurate test results for him, requiring Todoroki retake the exam in April.
    • Overhaul claiming Eri is his daughter doesn't change Midoriya's attitude towards getting her away from him, and he later points out to Mirio that what Overhaul did is a rather common excuse for villains regarding hostages. Nighteye further points out that even if Eri were indeed his daughter, her battered state would leave Overhaul little wiggle room in getting her back legally.
    • According to Doctor Tsubasa, the random nature of Quirks means some people go their whole lives without ever discovering what theirs is because it's either too subtle or requires some specific circumstance to activate.
  • In Young Midoriya Izuku catches All Might's attention at 12 by standing up to Bakugo for another kid, leading to multiple instances:
    • All Might is not thrilled with Bakugo's behavior at all, and pulls many strings to keep him away from Izuku. Bakugo tries to bully him anyway... And All Might's collaborators flat-out threaten him with arrest for illegal Quirk usage.
    • All Might decides to have Izuku inherit One For All and train him under his Toshinori Yagi persona... But first has to invent a scholarship, as Inko wouldn't trust a random stranger without a reason, even if she met him because he kept bullies from Izuku.
      • Given that the different circumstances allow him to use his resources more, All Might does just that and calls upon various people to give him lessons in combat and Hero ethics, and has Nezu and Gran Torino help.
    • Izuku was severely traumatized by Bakugo's bullying, and needs therapy. After many therapy sessions, his admiration for Bakugo completely disappears.
    • Izuku inherits One for All about a year before enrolling at U.A., and after years of training. He injures himself less upon the first use of his new Quirk, Gran Torino's presence allows him to figure out Full Cowl much faster, and by the entrance exam he can use it up to 8% continuously.
      • Because the above-mentioned training, that included not only exercise but a better diet and rest schedule, Izuku is not only fitter but taller: turns out the stress of dealing with Bakugo and the poor sleep he had been getting were stunting his growth...
    • Mineta was switched to class 1-B, thus he didn't get Aizawa as his homeroom teacher and attended the entrance ceremony... During which his antics earned him sixteen complaints for sexual harassment, and a swift expulsion from his appalled homeroom teacher Vlad.
    • Nezu puts Izuku and Bakugo in the same class (against Toshinori's wishes) in the hope that being forced to be around each other would help them get over their issues. Unfortunately, this could only work if both parties are willing to put in the effort - while Izuku gains a massive boost in confidence and even manages to make friends, Bakugo is still the same arrogant asshole from middle school. Even after losing to Izuku in the Sports Festival, it's clear he's learned nothing. So after yet another incident with Bakugo antagonizing Izuku, Nezu issues an ultimatum: get counseling for his anger issues, or be expelled.
      • On the topic of Bakugo’s behavior, it’s treated a lot more seriously once the story starts at UA. For example, during the Battle Trials, Bakugo completely ignored Izuku’s help and tried to do things by himself. Not only did he and Izuku lose and he was called out for his reckless action, but All Might also punishes him for his willingness to belittle Izuku.
    • Nezu confesses to Toshinori that the reason U.A. has put up with Bakugo's attitude for so long is because he's too powerful to be allowed to become a villain, and that expelling him outright could push him down that path. That said, the staff is only willing to be so lenient, and outright assaulting another student is something that will NOT be tolerated.

    My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic 
  • In Aftermath of the Games and its sequel Integration, one of the key plot points is that Twilight is raising a filly Starlight Glimmer after plucking her from the past and erasing her older self in the hopes of her turning out better than she originally did. As the older Starlight grew up in a neglectful orphanage, Twilight takes extra care to raise the younger version in a loving environment with tons of support. However, despite Starlight being on the path to turn out better, she still demonstrates early warning signs of her older self's fanatical behavior. This is Truth in Television, as upbringing is only one of many factors, such as genetics and culture, that influnces personality and mental disturbances.
    • In Integration, Human Rainbow Dash at one point kicks a Changeling mobster in the balls when he attempts to kidnap Sci-Twi. He's not only crippled by the pain, but actually requires immediate hospitalization and medical treatment.
    • Sci-Twi suffers from terrible nightmares about Midnight Sparkle, her Superpowered Evil Side. Unfortunately, she can't go to a human therapist, since none of them would believe her story. Her psychological problems only worsen in the sequel, when she develops magical powers. Instead of being happy, she has a Freak Out and fears that she'll eventually succumb to temptation and become Midnight again, to the point where Sunset has to talk her out of hiding in the bathroom. In fact, her mental block is so huge that she couldn't even use her powers to defend herself during the near-kidnapping. This incident made Sunset and Twilight realize that she can no longer function without professional help, and the latter gets Dr. Heart, one of the only ponies outside of the main characters who know about both dimensions, to help Sci-Twi out.
  • Pinkamina in Ask Pinkamina Diane Pie tries to dramatically lick a knife and just ends up slicing her tongue.
  • The Assassination of Twilight Sparkle: When new work laws were enacted that would allow non-pegasi, including unicorns and griffons, to work at the Cloudsdale weather factory, Fastlane's father, a pegasus worker at the factory, was enraged. He and some of the other pegasi went on strike, but the factory just hired replacement workers with the same wages and benefits. Even when the other strikers returned to work, he continued to hold out, to the point of refusing to get another job. Nobody cared, his efforts amounted to nothing, and his family became so poor that they couldn't afford his wife's medical expenses. Pride doesn't put food on the table or pay the bills, and if you don't swallow it when you have to, you'll end up with nothing.
  • In the one-shot Below Average, Starlight Glimmer finds out the hard way that taking away Princess Celestia's special talent results in a perpetual sunset, equalizing your local blacksmith results in fragile weapons and armor that the Royal Guard effortlessly defeats, a spell to remove a cutie mark has no effect on those who don't have them, and if you rely exclusively on your magic, an opponent with magic-repelling bowties will render you Powerful and Helpless.
    • In general, having everyone completely average at everything makes for a rather terrible place to live. Houses regularly collapse because there's no trained architects or construction workers, food is barely edible since no one is any good at cooking, etc.
  • Bitter Tears: An Anon-A-Miss Fic: When the girls run into the Sirens outside the hospital, Applejack proclaims that they thought they had seen the last of them. Aria points out that while she and her sisters have been banished from Equestria and expelled from CHS, moving to a new town requires a lot of money, which the Sirens don't have. When Rarity states that they belong in prison for the trouble they caused in "Rainbow Rocks", Adagio mockingly points out that there's no way the police would believe a story about "evil sea ponies from another dimension tried to take over a high school with pop music." With all that in mind, the Humane Five are essentially stuck with the Sirens, and are bound to run into them from time to time.
  • Changeling Courtship Rituals:
    • The joke side story Realistic Changeling Courtship Rituals is, to quote the author, what happens if Twilight "reacts in a much more normal way, rather than like a sitcom character." It's a much shorter and rather sad story where the ridiculous relationship goes absolutely nowhere, thus demonstrating that Reality Ensues isn't always the best.
    • On the other hand, the sequel story Pony Courtship Rituals is all about how Twilight's beloved sister-in-law Cadence is convinced that Chrysalis is still an enemy and repeatedly attempts to sabotage her relationship with Twilight. This culminates in Cadence physically attacking them, and they resolve the problem by getting a restraining order against her.
  • The Conversion Bureau: Not Alone takes the essential premise and elements of the original The Conversion Bureau story and shows how they would play out realistically. For one thing, the humans aren't happy with the ponies' offensively misanthropic attitudes, not every pony is on board with the Princesses' actions (and for that matter, the other nations of Equus aren't happy about it either), and a society/military with a (mostly) medieval level of technological development would get trounced by 21st century level weaponry.
  • The Conversion Bureau: The Other Side of the Spectrum:
  • The Demesne Of The Reluctant Twilight Sparkle:
    • As badass as Rainbow Dash and Applejack are, they can't singlehoofedly fight off a group of anonymous looters who both outnumber them and get the jump on them.
    • Twilight eventually learns that suddenly being given complete and total control of her own demesne has far reaching consequences when the nobles of Equestria realize they too not only have complete control over their own demesnes, but can conquer other demesnes at will, putting Equestria on the path to civil war.
  • A Diplomatic Visit: Used in the third story, Diplomacy Through Schooling.
    • When Twilight makes her plans for the school, she actually plans it out, from hiring actual teachers to coming up with lesson plans. She knows that her and the other Mane Six members are not qualified to be teachers and dropping everything to run a school is not a smart idea.
    • Neighsay has no power over Twilight, and his racism doesn't endear him to her. As such, when he tries to use said racism to block the school, she calls him out on it and orders him to leave.
      • Building on this, when Neighsay tries to go to Blueblood for help, he is reminded that, again, Twilight outranks him in every way possible and in addition, trying to go behind not only her back, but Celestia's as well is likely going to cost him his job.
  • In Discord's New Business, Fluttershy finally gets to be a tree. She's promptly bored to tears, as she can't move or interact with her animals in any way. She can't even see it when an animal pees on her roots. She gives up and asks Discord to change her back.
  • In The Elements of Friendship, Nightmare Moon succeeding in bringing about The Night That Never Ends causes temperatures to drop, and a lack of food as crops die from a combination of that and lack of sunlight. Meanwhile, the other half of the planet is suffering from Endless Daytime, everything burning and the boiling oceans resulting in megastorms. All told, only a narrow strip of the planet at the day/night border, the Twilight Zone, is habitable, and that quickly starts to be overwhelmed by refugees.
  • Equestria: Civil War:
    • The fanfic, in general, deconstructs the Easily Forgiven trope that is a staple of the series. Although Starlight Glimmer pulled a Heel–Face Turn and the Mane 6 no longer held any grudges against her, this doesn't excuse the fact that she committed a lot of crimes in the past, or change the fact that she hurt several ponies who wouldn't be willing to forgive her. Because Twilight was quick to forgive Starlight in spite of her actions, ponies all across Equestria have accused Twilight of being a Horrible Judge of Character and suggest that her decisions as a princess be questioned. As a result, the Reformed Antagonist Regulation Act (R.A.R.A) - a checks and balances type of system developed to monitor former villains - ended up garnering a lot of supporters. Including Rarity, Cadance, and Applejack.
    • In addition, the fic also points out that ponies were either killed or seriously injured during the Changeling invasion in the Season 2 finale, which is why so many decided to support RARA. In fact, Thunderbolt's whole reason for pushing the R.A.R.A act to be passed comes from how his daughter was killed and his ex-wife was crippled during the invasion.
  • In Equestria Girls the Empowered World, Sunset Shimmer notes that when she came to Earth she had to learn the Latin Alphabet via children's books, seeing as magical ponies and humans likely do not share the same written language, and likely not even the same alphabet.
  • The Equestrian Civil Service Series is all about this. In a magical realm of gods, monsters, heroes, epic adventures (and Royal Brats), there still needs to be somepony to run things behind the scenes, leaving the eternally Beleaguered Bureaucrats of the eponymous Equestrian Civil Service to deal with everything: imminent disasters, the fallout of a visiting celebrity's surprise visit, a castle covered in custard and nopony knows why, etc.
  • Fallout: Equestria:
    • Littlepip manages to destroy a raider den with no small amount of luck, and scavenges their armor. She then walks towards a small caravan covered in blood and wearing raider armor; she is promptly shot by the guard, who assumed she was a raider.
    • Stable 2 was designed to never open, and stayed shut for over two hundred years. When Littlepip and Velvet Remedy return, Velvet gets a look at the ancestry logs and points out that they're only a couple generations away from becoming seriously inbred. A Stable simply isn't big enough to hold a population that is genetically diverse enough to last forever, and it certainly didn't help that many of the original inhabitants were extended members of the Apple family.
  • In Fallout: Equestria - Empty Quiver, one of the weapons which Night Strike picks up is a fully-automatic pony-portable sniper rifle, chambered for .50 BMG. The first time she fires it ends about as well as you'd expect.
  • Fan comics:
    • A comic based on the movie has Twilight Sparkle locked in a cage inside Tempest Shadow's flying ship. Twilight points out to Tempest that the floor below her cage is covered with lava and the ship is made of wood. The ship blows apart as a result of the lava, allowing Twilight to escape.
    • Another comic by the same artist has a follow-up to the episode "Marks and Recreation" where the Cutie Mark Crusaders run a day camp. The comic has the Crusaders receive a large bill as a result of running the camp.
    • An Equestria Girls comic has the girls changing in the locker room. Applejack opens her locker to find Principal Molestia inside with a camera and a nosebleed. The last panel of the comic shows Molestia being arrested.
  • The Finger Trap has Twilight Sparkle appear on humanity-occupied earth, and go to the first house she can see to ask for directions. Instead of a person who sympathizes with her and wants to be friends, the main character is the one contacted... who distracts her long enough to call Animal Control.
  • Getting Back on Your Hooves: At the end of the story, Helping Hoof finally turns on Checker and helps expose her crimes. However, he still ends up in prison, albeit with a reduced sentence, for being an accomplice to her crimes.
  • Her Inner Demons sees the Shadowbolts wonder why a wallflower like Sci-Twi would have a Superpowered Evil Side like Midnight Sparkle. Turns out, it's from her classmates treating her with contempt. Being insulted, ignored, blackmailed, and suffering through all kinds of abuse in Crystal Prep gave Sci-Twi plenty of dark thoughts about the people around her, just like any real-life high school student might react.
  • In Innocence Once Lost side story Enemy Unknown the ponies try to reverse engineer human technology to win the war, this doesn't work because A) Human technology is more advanced than anything that ponies have so they can't make sense of most of it B) because of the former there are numerous accidents that lead to casualties such as one technician being electrocuted after pulling a power cable out with his mouth because he didn't know what it does and C) where ponies do make some progress in some areas, their discoveries aren't very useful, ponies can't fire human weapons except with their mouths which results in a broken jaw, most human Super Serum types don't work on ponies and those that do end up banned by the princesses due to the ethics problems involved, the only progress they make is in AI research and metallurgy from analysing human vehicles but in the end Luna negotiates a peace treaty because the research isn't enough to turn the tide of the war.
    • In the main story because the Princesses negotiated peace with humans by giving them what they wanted without having to fight over it their popularity took a hit because they look like appeasers to the population.
    • When Alt!Applejack is considering using human medical technology to bring Alt!Big Mac out of a coma the doctors tell her he might not be exactly the same due to neurological changes one gets after spending years in a coma, later there are also some complications when waking him up because unlike a human brain which can be brought out of a coma gradually a pony brain can't.
  • Long Road to Friendship:
    • The fic, as a whole, deals with Sunset Shimmer's reformation from an Alpha Bitch to a Jerk with a Heart of Gold, while making her life a living hell for it. Despite honestly wanting to change, Sunset is constantly distrusted, is assigned months of detention for her actions, and suffers a Catapult Nightmare literally every time she goes to sleep because of her inability to move on. However, it also shows Twilight Sparkle's human counterpart bonding quickly with the new Sunset, because Human Twilight has only ever seen Sunset's good side.
    • Later chapters also show how randomly moving from one dimension to another has a lot of unforeseen consequences, as the fic averts Undead Tax Exemption with Sunset Shimmer's living situation. When Sunset first arrives in the human world, she has to struggle to learn how to walk, and come to grips with every creature looking vastly different. Also, Sunset comes over with no money, no family, no friends, no public records, no official identification of any kind, no stable income, and few practical skills since the human world doesn't have any magic. She ends up having to live in an abandoned factory and mooch off of boyfriends in high school just to survive, hoping that no one finds out.
  • Loved and Lost:
    • When the disgraced heroes try to tell Twilight and Canterlot's citizens that Jewelius helped Chrysalis to infiltrate Canterlot before double-crossing her and is truly a heartless manipulator, Rainbow Dash suggests to have the also imprisoned Queen Chrysalis as their verifier. The suggestion is immediately shot down because no-one considers such a deceptive villain to be a reliable witness.
      Rainbow Dash: Just ask Chrysalis herself!
      A stallion: You're telling us to ask a creature who lies and deceives ponies to clarify the truth?!
      Rainbow Dash: Oh.
    • At first it seems like the entire Royal Guard has sworn loyalty to Jewelius at the drop of a hat. However, it's revealed in the 11th chapter that most guards suffered serious injuries during the invasion, but many of them continued swearing loyalty to the dismantled princesses. On Jewelius' orders, they were murdered and declared to be casualties of the invasion, allowing Jewelius to fill the greatly decreased ranks with criminals he released from dungeons in exchange for their loyalty.
    • Jewelius gets to see that while you can sway someone into supporting you, you cannot make them utterly discard long-upheld beliefs or bonds just like that. He wins Twilight's trust by acting understandingly toward her while she gets the cold shoulder from her brother, mentor and friends. He then separates her from them before reconciliations can be made and manipulates her to stop trusting them while he's able to play around her fresh heartache as he sees fit for one week, without the banished heroes or Twilight's parents (whom he kidnapped) anywhere around. Once the banished heroes have returned, Twilight acts coldly toward them and refuses to trust them (except for Cadance), but she's faced with incidents that contradict Jewelius' claims. note  After getting chances to vent her hurt feelings, Twilight starts doubting and thinking. She eventually defies Jewelius' order to lie to ponies who trust her and decides — right before Jewelius drops all pretences with her — that she wants to reconcile with her loved ones and that Jewelius has much to learn about responsible ruling. Likewise, Canterlot's citizens gradually become disillusioned with the smoke and mirrors of Jewelius and want back the wise ruler who has reigned for as long as they can remember.
    • After the entire Changeling army has escaped from Canterlot's dungeons, Jewelius refuses to acknowledge the urgency to prepare against them and directs all his efforts in taking down the heroes. Unlike what he seems to be thinking, Chrysalis (a highly vindictive queen who has a personal score to settle with him) is not going to just wait for as long as he likes for another chance to get revenge against him after she failed to reach him once.note  Not to mention the suspicions he instills through this behavior in Twilight and Canterlot's citizens who all acknowledge the Changelings to be a bigger concern than the fugitive heroes.
    • During her duel with Rainbow Dash in the final battle, Vivian goes into a Motive Rant about how Equestria has become weak under the rule of the alicorns and the Elements of Harmony. This gives Rainbow Dash a chance to take her by surprise and knock her unconscious.
  • The Lunaverse:
    • Pinkie Pie the hyperactive Genki Girl party animal is exactly as annoying as you might expect such a character to be in reality.
    • In At the Grand Galloping Gala, Princess Luna explains in great detail to Trixie why she can't just up and throw around her royal authority to get rid of the Decadent Court, at least not if she wants to avoid becoming a dictator.
  • Marionettes:
    • As the Traintop Battle begins, Trixie comments that the movies never mention the extreme wind that makes even moving on top of a train difficult.
    • While fighting Rainbow Dash, Gear Shift reveals his ability to increase his speed. While this gives him the advantage at first, he quickly becomes exhausted. Rainbow notes that he's conditioned like a sprinter while she's conditioned for long distance flying.
    • After Cover Story turns out to be a robot just like Trixie and Lightning Dust, Twilight guesses this trope is at play. An organization that kidnaps, brainwashes, and messes with memories as part of their activities would naturally have a low recruitment, too low to actually keep it running, and thus would need to compensate by using their robots to make more members. Masquerade later confirms this was in fact correct.
    • The Marionettes are still machines, and as a result need a cooling system to work properly. As a result, they're programmed to search out cold drinks when they're overheating to act as coolant. This is remedied in the Generation 5 Marionettes, and Twilight figures out a way to give Trixie and Lightning Dust an upgrade to accomplish the same thing.
    • The events of the season 5 finale happen and Gypsy's connection to the Tree of Harmony means she witnesses all the alternate timelines personally. The Stallions react to the 'Flim Flam Brothers take over the world' timeline as one would expect their organization to finding out two of their androids took over the world in an alternate timeline and nearly destroy them both on the spot before Gypsy saves them.
  • In Asylum, asylum!Pinkie Pie's Cutie Mark origin starts the same as it does in the main universe. Pinkie Pie sees the Rainboom and gets so excited she throws her family a party. However, being such a young filly who likely never even used a stove before, it doesn't turn out well. Pinkie sets the house on fire and receives permanent scars on her flank as a result. This left Pinkie very traumatized to the point where she was eventually sent to a mental hospital.
  • As someone from a much earlier time, Princess Luna often is shown befuddled by more modern concepts. For example, in the Princess of Books, the idea of someone being able to write scandalous things about her without the death penalty involved.
  • The MLP Loops:
    • One crossover snippet has Captain Jack Sparrow defeat Nightmare Moon by trying to point out the logical impossibilities of the Night Lasting Forever. Many loops take this a step farther, where the loopers don't even bother pointing out the logical impossibilities. They just let her make her Eternal Night and deal with the consequences. These include:
      • No sunlight means food can't grow. While magic can deal with the problem, it's a huge hassle and much easier to just allow the normal cycle of day and night.
      • Since the world is a globe, if half is Eternal Night, then the other half is Eternal Day. In addition to ruining the symbolism, this screws with the weather—again, something that can be handled by magic, but it's far more of a hassle than it's worth.
      • Going back to the above snippet, Jack also notes that there's a good chance that said Eternal Day is over an ocean, meaning no stars to help sailors navigate.
      • The point is to force ponies to appreciate the night more. Eternal Night doesn't make ponies appreciate it, they resent it.
    • Related to Nightmare Moon, Twilight at one point pretends to go evil and declares an "Eternal Twilight" across the land. It's pointed out that this makes even less sense than Eternal Night; only a rather narrow band will be Eternal Twilight, the rest will be Eternal Day or Eternal Night. With the logical impossibility pointed out, she promptly gives up. Of course, in this case she and Spike were invoking the trope for the skit.
    • One of the standard ways of defeating the various villains is to not defeat them at all. Everyone lets them conquer Equestria, the normal rulers take a vacation, and the conquerors discover the horrifying amount of paperwork that comes from running an entire nation.
    • Zigzagged with one snippet, where EG!Rainbow Dash points out to Sunset she can't manage every sports team in Canterlot High, and play in a band, and still have to just barely finish her regular school assignments all at once. The zigzagging comes from the solution being Rainbow Dash getting other students to fill in for her as "substitute Rainbow Dashes".
    • For a tank battle, they're limited to WWII tanks, so Apple Bloom decides to make the P-1000 Ratte. While the exorbitant cost isn't an issue, she quickly discovers the many other reasons the Germans never actually made one. It's heavy enough that it sinks into the ground, the engines keep exploding, and on the rare occasion that she can get enough engines working long enough for it to move, it's slower than a glacier.
  • The Night Of Days (in which American Airborne troops and German defenders are teleported from Normandy into Equestria by a reincarnation of Nightmare Moon) has her luring scattered German soldiers to her castle ruins, where she then tries to manipulate them and gradually take them over, in order to make them fight for her and put her on the Equestrian throne. The German commanding officer is... not amused. He nods at first, but then he pulls out his sidearm and nonchalantly guns her down, injuring her severely. Then he declares that the soldiers under his command would be serving no one but "Führer and Vaterland" and leads them on a campaign to colonise Equestrian territory for Nazi Germany. (Word of God says that he wanted to avert exactly what another fanfic he once read did; having the Germans comply with Nightmare Moon without as much as a question. He said he disliked it exactly because it would have been completely unrealistic.)
  • The Power of the Equinox:
    • While Princess Luna was easily forgiven and welcomed back by her sister right after she stopped being Nightmare Moon, Equestria's governing council insisted on having her answer for the transgressions she committed after her release from the moon. After much debate between Celestia and the council, Luna was sentenced to a house arrest of two years, which includes being obliged to being accompanied by armed guard at all times and wearing a magic suppression ring when she's not performing her nocturnal duties. The last Nightmare Night is the only time Celestia has been able to get Luna out of these restrictions.
    • After Dimmed Star (a transformed Twilight Sparkle) kills many guards under the Entity's influence and is put on trial the next morning, Princess Cadance tries to spend the entire night studying laws in order to act as her former charge's defence attorney. She falls asleep and is woken up by Luna after Dimmed Star has broken free of her restraints and left the courtroom.
  • The Redemption of Tempest Shadow, which takes place after the movie has Tempest Shadow, the Storm King's former second-in-command, being reviled by the ponies of Equestria despite her Heel–Face Turn. Even her sister, Razzle Fizzle, is furious with her actions. This proves that just because Twilight is willing to forgive Tempest, it doesn't mean anybody else is going to automatically follow suit.
    • Applejack and Rainbow Dash point out during Chapter 8 that even if Tempest did do a genuine Heel–Face Turn, she still cannot go unpunished for her crimes (which include conquering Equestria and other countries, enslaving those populations, and joining forces with a maniac emperor, all because she broke her horn) because that would not be fair to the thousands, maybe even millions, of victims who suffered because of her. Also, because Tempest's misdeeds were war crimes, that means that it's impossible for her not to be punished for them.
    • Later on, it is revealed that the Cutie Mark Crusaders are suffering from PTSD from being locked up in cages.
    • Furthermore, there were lots of casualties in Canterlot from Tempest's attack on the city.
  • In Release, Twilight admits she used a spell to keep from going in heat ever since she hit puberty. All her friends are horrified, citing how much damage she could've done to her body by suppressing a major biological function for so long, with Rainbow Dash suggesting it's the reason Twilight has such a "slender and coltish" body.
  • In The Royal Sketchbook Twilight and her friends try to save a pillaged village from violent bandits. It's not like anything they've seen before. Even Flash Sentry is shellshocked. When Twilight tries to talk to a pillager, he just mocks her then spits in her face.
  • Scar Tissue reminds us that having body parts suddenly grow out of you can leave nasty marks even after they get friendship beamed away. A version with Sci-Twi also exists called Battle Scars.
  • Spectacular Seven:
    • The Sirens promised ten thousand dollars for winning the Battle of the Bands. While the Spectacular Seven are planning a vacation with the prize money, they suddenly realize that it was probably a lie, seeing as how the Sirens were only interested in spreading a Hate Plague. When the Seven go to City Hall, the mayor confirms that there's no prize money.
    • During the Snowball Fight in Volume II, Sunset tries dashing across the snow and ice. She slips, falls, and hits her head, causing her to start bleeding.
    • Rainbow Dash may be a Passionate Sports Girl, but isn't an Instant Expert at snowboarding just because she wants to be. She spends her first day snowboarding having to learn how to maintain her balance on the beginner's slope, and frequently falls on her face into the snow. When Rainbow tries doing a back flip off of a ramp in her second day, she doesn't get a full rotation, hitting the ground so hard that she breaks her shoulder.
    • Twilight overhears someone at school insulting Sunset Shimmer. The other kid insists that Sunset, who has gone missing for several days with no indication as to where she might have gone, deserves whatever she's going to get because of her past as an Alpha Bitch. Twilight promptly socks the other student in the jaw. When Principal Celestia finds out, Twilight gets detention.
  • Sunset's Recovery Arc: Being a high schooler who lives by herself, Sunset doesn't have the money to get professional help about her depression. There aren't many other ways for her to see a therapist elsewhere either. Being from another dimension, she's not a citizen so she can't get insurance and she doesn't have a birth certificate to become a citizen. Charity clinics also have a long waiting list.
  • While many fanfics either ignore or play straight the issues of the former Pony in a human body sexual preferences, Sunset Shimmer Lends Pinkie Pie the Wrong Thumb Drive points out how different Earth horses are from Equestrian Ponies and how Sunset would not be attracted to horses any more than a regular human would be. She also doesn't actually find humans attractive either, due to the sheer differences in anatomy.
  • The Triptych Continuum is sometimes summarized as "My Little Pony: Reality Ensues". The events of the first three seasons of the show are followed faithfully, but the consequences and implications of those events are explored and extrapolated in a more realistic manner. Going on missions and being available to go on missions has economic, social, and emotional costs for the Mane Six. Political and PR maneuvering are factors in almost everything the Princesses and other public figures do. The over-the top events and occasional insanity of events and individuals in Ponyville have lasting consequences. The implications that the world is dangerous outside of the settled areas Ponies have managed to establish are expanded upon. And so on.
    • As Ponies are smaller than humans, Canadian Geese are much closer in size to Equestrians, which makes them a lot more dangerous in Goosed.
  • Just like in Ace Attorney, Octavia has evidence in Vinyl and Octavia Duel Destiny which she has taken from the scene of the crime and is about to use to prove Vinyl's innocence, only to be told that it's inadmissible and is barred from practicing law as a result.
  • The Writing on the Wall features this when the eponymous writing is deciphered, revealing the true nature of the Ancient Tomb that Daring Do had been exploring. Why Daring Do and the workers had gotten sick when the building had been abandoned for thousands of years, as well as the strange construction of the building and the various defenses constructed around it is explained in a single stroke. Unfortunately for the characters involved, The Reveal turns the story into a Horror story, as the disease is not one caused by any sort of pathogen, or indeed anything a pony would understand. The whole place was a nuclear waste dump left by humans centuries ago, and the ponies were all getting sick from radiation poisoning. In the end, all Daring Do and the others can do is lock the door behind them and warn people to stay out.

     My Next Life as a Villainess 
  • I am the Villainess invokes this on Fortune Lover, specifically the Bad Ends for Jeord and Keith's routes. They are more consequences for killing Katarina than the love interest leaving Maria for having blood on his hands.
    • In Jeord's bad end, breaking off an engagement to a Duke's daughter out of love for a commoner is a serious offense politically, much less killing her even out of defense of Maria. This leads to a civil war caused by outraged nobles against Jeord. Maria dies as a Royal Consort (since the uprising can be traced back to her) by Jeord's side after they are killed by enemy soldiers.
    • In Keith's bad end, while Katarina was a Big Sister Bully to Keith and tormented Maria just because of her heritage, she was still the Third Prince's fiance. It leads to social upheaval as nobles either try to have Jeord engaged to their daughters or rise up against up for not protecting his fiance. Keith joins the anti-imperial faction to protect Maria, but in the end he has both of them killed by his own golem to avoid execution by an invading mob.
    • Having lived through both events have left Maria a Broken Bird, and by her third life she chooses to isolate herself from her classmates, all while blaming herself for the tragedies of the last two routes. In a more tragic case, this leaves her unaware that she's in a more pleasant timeline with a kinder Katarina.

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