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This information definitely goes from this post back to this post. Check the "Posts from the Thread" folder for "checkpoints" in the thread (so to speak).

This excludes work pages brought to the thread simply because Works' Pages Are a Free Launch. The order of this shall be... arbitrarily in this order:

  • Page name
    who brought it up in the thread
    reason
    approximate age at launch | approximate time between last comment and launch
    hats [comma or period] bombs at launch
    # of replies (# of commenters) | # of replies at launch (# of commenters at launch)
    resolution
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Notes:

  • "IBUD" means "Issue (that was) Brought Up in the Draft."
  • Concerning "age":
    • The approximate age is found by finding the difference between the "Created By:" line in YKTTW and the "Page Created:" line on the launched page; the time between last comment and launch is found similarly.
    • The units on the age are d, m, or y (days, months, or years).
  • Concerning "number of replies":
    • The only way to get the number of commenters is to physically look at the comment section and take a physical tally. Because of this, the "number of commenters" is an approximate number.
    • The number of reported replies and commenters at launch has to do with unlaunched pages. These numbers only include the comments before the mod-hat comment explaining that the draft was unlaunched.
  • Important: Only the hats-and-bombs number for the current version of the draft can be found. Thus, the farther back in time we look, the less accurate those data will be (especially if the draft was sent back and revised).
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  • Resolution notes: "cut" means the page was cut; "k" means the page was kept; "sb" means the page was "sent back to TLP"; and thus "sb and launched" means the page was sent back to TLP and re-launched (possibly under a different name) while "sb and discarded" means the page was sent back to TLP and discarded.


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    Unresolved Issues 
From this vote tally.

I'm including this because it's an accuracy check. All of these tropes should be included in the TLP Reform folder. Later, I'll cut from this list the tropes that have been checked (unless we think that wouldn't be necessary). Note that there may be tropes in the TLP Reform list that just wouldn't be on here. Those tropes were resolved before the tally was posted.

    TLP Reform 
We’re now in the realm of “I wasn’t even there.”

  1. Abled in the Adaptation
    alnair20aug93
    "no consensus"
    24 d |
    19, 0
    26 (18) |
    sb
  2. Actually Real Magic
    crazysamaritan
    IBUD (name, description)
    1 y, 9 m | 3 m
    19.5
    121 (43) | 106 (34) note 
    sb
  3. Ambiguous Religions
    Water Blap
    description
    3 y |
    5.2
    37 (11) |
    sb
  4. Bust Chart
    Water Blap
    few wicks, Not a Trope (trivia)
    4 y, 2 m | 1 d
    5.2
    32 (19) |
    k
  5. Buzzsaw Projectile
    sailing101
    stub
    4 d | 0 d note 
    9.2
    20 (17) |
    cut
  6. Cast from Calories
    Water Blap
    similarity to other discussed trope (Cast from Stamina), duplicate (of CFS), The Same, but More Specific
    3 m | 2 m
    7
    18 (16) |
    unresolved
  7. Creator's Pest
    sailing101
    stub, “no consensus”
    17 d | 12 d
    19
    61 (33) | note 
    keep
  8. Earth Must Stand On Its Own
    Larkman
    Not a Trope, few examples, description
    15 d | 1 d
    6.3
    13 (8) | 9 (5)
    sb
  9. Everybody Loves Zeus
    Water Blap
    too specific, name (Bad snowclone)
    4 d | 0 d
    9.2
    15 (7) |
    n/a (related TRS issue swallowed it up)
  10. Eye Scar
    Larkman
    appearance trope, duplicate
    2 m | 7 d
    11.5
    49 (30) | 44 (25) |
    sb and discarded
  11. Flirtatious Smack on the Ass (comment)
    lakingsif
    Not a Trope
    6 d | 0 d
    5.2
    21 (12) |
    unresolved
  12. Gentle Touch vs. Firm Hand
    Water Blap
    description
    1 m | 15 d
    8
    3 (3) |
    keep
  13. Heritage Disconnect
    alnair20aug93
    blank launch
    11 m | 3 m
    9, 0
    32 (17) |
    sb and launched
  14. The Lightfooted
    Larkman
    hat-bomb ratio, description, examples,
    9 m |
    6.4
    27 (19) | 20 (15) |
    sb
  15. Mystical Item TM
    A Drago
    name
    1 m | 20 d
    5.5
    26 (15) | 12 (9) |
    sb
  16. Nazi Zombies
    sailing101
    duplicate
    4 m | | 0 d note 
    12.3
    55 (22) |
    unresolved
  17. The Noisy Straw
    Water Blap
    People Sit on Chairs, description
    3 m |
    7
    7 (4) |
    unresolved
  18. No Place for a Warrior (link to draft for Monday update)
    lakingsif
    en mass launching
    3 d | 0 d
    17.1
    55 (24) | 17 (13) |
    sb
  19. Nested Ownership
    A Drago
    stub
    1 y, 5 m | 0 d
    13
    keep |
    keep
  20. Percussive Shutdown
    eroock
    "no consensus"
    6 m |
    5
    16 (4) |
    k
  21. Plasma Manipulation
    Water Blap
    IBUD (description)
    4 d |
    5.2
    24 (8) |
    sb
  22. The Plot Changed Real Life
    lakingsif
    ”not in a launch state” note 
    4 y, 11 m | 1 d
    8.2
    44 (31) | 34 (26)
    sb
  23. Poverty Porn
    A Drago
    few examples
    3 d | 2 d note 
    9.1
    11 (8) |
    unresolved
  24. Robots Are Just Better
    Water Blap
    name (Bad Snowclone), stub
    5 m | 15 d |
    9.1
    17 (12) |
    unresolved
  25. Similar Item Confusion
    Larkman
    poor examples, too broad
    5 m | 28 d |
    5
    30 (15) |
    unresolved
  26. Sword Guard Stance (link for Monday update)
    Larkman
    en masse launching
    2 y, 8 m |
    10.2
    103 (21) | 100 (18)
    sb
  27. Temporarily Exaggerated Trait
    Water Blap
    stub, IBUD (description)
    1 y, 4 m | 3 m
    7.1
    63 (16) |
    unresolved
  28. The Thousand And One Bottles
    Larkman
    IBUD (name)
    5 d |
    9.3 (reported 8.1)
    55 (15) | 35 (11)
    sb and launched
  29. This Index Broke Up
    Water Blap
    name, IBUD (name)
    3 d |
    6.0
    8 (4) |
    unresolved
  30. Variant Power Copying
    sailing101
    The Same, but More Specific
    8 m | 0 d |
    7.2
    33 (10) |
    unresolved
  31. Waiting Skeleton
    alnair20aug93
    no apparent reason at first note 
    3 d | 1 d |
    12.0
    28 (21) |
    unresolved
  32. Walpurgisnacht
    alnair20aug93
    premature cut?
    3 y |
    11.1
    52 () |
    cut
  33. Weredragon
    Water Blap
    title, IBUD (overlap, duplicate)
    6 d | 1 d |
    5.2
    41 (22) |
    unresolved
  34. When Props Attack
    Larkman
    ZCE, examples
    7 y | 2 d |
    5.1
    59 (38) |
    unresolved
  35. Casual Sports Jersey
    Larkman
    small hat ratio, Not a Trope, few wicks
    10 m | 1 d
    5.2
    35 (15) |
    unresolved
  36. Rod And Reel Repurposed
    Morgenthaler
    description
    7 m | 1 d
    12.0
    49 (25) |
    k
  37. Exploiting the Fourth Wall
    Morgenthaler
    The Same, but More Specific
    1 y, 3 m | 1 d note 
    19.0
    52 (26) note 
    unresolved note 
  38. Male Band, Female Singer (comment)
    Larkman
    Not a Trope, examples
    13 d | 1 d
    11.0
    17 (12) |
    unresolved
  39. Scientist vs. Soldier
    DAN 004
    blank launch
    1 y | 4 d
    11.0
    69 (26) |
    sb and launched
  40. From Camouflage to Criminal (comment)
    Star Sword
    name
    2 m | 0 d
    16.1
    85 (23) |
    unresolved
  41. Realistic Humans, Cartoony Animals (comment)
    Berrenta
    en masse launching
    3 y, 4 m | 2 d note 
    20.3
    74 (30) | 61 (24)
    sb and launched
  42. Male Might, Female Finesse
    Berrenta
    en masse launching
    3 y, 9 m | 1 m
    15.5
    108 (32) |
    unresolved
  43. Hindenburg Incendiary Principle
    Berrenta
    en masse launching
    4y | 9 m
    14.2
    86 (40) |
    unresolved
  44. Breeding Slave
    Berrenta
    en masse launching
    4 y | 3 m
    13.3
    88 (41) |
    unresolved
  45. Music Is Eighth Notes
    Berrenta
    en masse launching
    3 y, 10 m | 4 m
    14.4
    160 (28) |
    unresolved
  46. Monochrome to Color
    Berrenta
    en masse launching
    2 y, 2 m | 5 m
    13.3
    49 (38) | note 
    unresolved
  47. Smoky Voice
    Berrenta
    en masse launching
    1 y, 5 m |
    14.3
    84 (31) |
    unresolved
  48. Weak to Fire
    Berrenta
    en masse launching
    3 y, 8 m | 19 d
    11.3
    111 (47) |
    unresolved
  49. Forgotten Framing Device
    Berrenta
    en masse launching
    4 y, 1 m |
    11.3
    48 (39) | note 
    unresolved
  50. Stronger Than They Look
    Berrenta
    en masse launching
    3 y, 11 m | 8 d
    23.4
    78 (29) | 57 (23)
    sb and launched
  51. Driving Song
    Berrenta
    en masse launching
    3 y, 8 m | 2 m
    11.4
    66 (36) |
    unresolved
  52. From Entertainment to Education
    Berrenta
    en masse launching
    2 y, 1 m |
    |
  53. Sadly Mythcharacterized
    Morning Star 1337
    pre-mature launch (+ unindexed, no crosswicking, examples section)
    17 d | 1 d
    9.0
    86 (14)
    keep
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    Cut and/or cannot find the info on them 
This list is included just to be complete (and also there might be a way to get this information from somewhere? Maybe? Not necessarily in any order.

    Posts from the Thread 
This stuff is just links to the posts where someone brought the trope up. I'm doing this because it'll make it easier in the long run for me, since I'm not always able to update the Excel file or w/e. Feel free to add any posts, just follow the format of "[bullet] Up to [this post]" and "[sub-bullet] [link]" please, if you do.

     Data Analysis 
This is a tentative analysis of the data from this page. I have everything in a spreadsheet, and am working to find the best way to analyze and present the results. There's still some work left to standardize and organize the data. For now, I'll post some basic counts and averages that stand out. ~Pokedude10

Posted as of 04/10/2017:

Most common issues

IssueCount
en masse launching 13
description 7
name 5
stub 5
Not a Trope 5
duplicate 4
few wicks 4
The Same, but More Specific 3
IBUD description 3
IBUD name 3
examples 3
no consensus 2
IBUD overlap 1
blank launch 1
small hat ratio 1
ZCE 1
poor examples 1

Issues by category

These are sorted into broader categories to help clarify the issues and create possible solutions.

  Count %
Core  
Description 10 13%
Name 7 9%
Total 17 22%
Implementation  
Examples 9 12%
Wicks 5 6%
Stub 5 6%
Blank Launch 1 1%
Unindexed 1 1%
ZCE 1 1%
Total 22 29%
Disqualifiers  
Not a Trope 5 6%
Too Specific 4 5%
Duplicate 4 5%
Similar 1 1%
Overlap 1 1%
People Sit in Chairs 1 1%
Appearance Trope 1 1%
Too Broad 1 1%
Total 18 23%
Administrative  
En masse Launching 14 18%
Consensus 3 4%
Hats 2 3%
Not Launch Ready 1 1%
Total 20 26%

Reasons from drafts younger than 1 month.

Note: The count adds up to 22, some tropes had more than one issue and I added both reasons in the count.

With 20 entries < 1 month:

Issue Count % of total
examples 6 27%
description 4 18%
name 3 14%
Not a Trope 3 14%
wicks 3 14%
stub 2 9%
duplicate 1 5%

Various Statistics

Draft Age in Days

  • Average: 482.75 Days
  • Min: 3
  • Max: 2555
  • Standard Deviation: 605.45

Time between Comment and Launch in Days

  • Average: 29.24
  • Min: 0
  • Max: 270
  • Stdev: 53.54

Ratio of Hats / Bombs

More on the way... Maybe.

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