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     Invader Zim 
  • The New Adventures of Invader Zim:
    • During their first fight, Dib tries to stake Norlock. However, since all he has is a piece of wooden debris, with nothing else to hammer it in with, he fails to penetrate Norlock's ribcage.
    • Zim and Tak's competition for control of Earth was always doomed to fall apart because of the Tallest's hate for Zim. After everything he's done, the competition was ultimately just a means to get rid of him one way or another and when it seems that he's about to get a dangerous Super Weapon, they obviously don't trust him with it and finally turn on him completely.
    • After all the time and effort put into mentoring Zim, of course Norlock wasn't going to just let him give up once the Tallest banish him.
    • Norlock's betrayal arguably also counts. Have the villainous Hypercompetent Sidekick get in a confrontation with Dib where the latter points out that for all said sidekick's insistence he's both manipulating Zim so that he'll be his Puppet King and helping him achieve his potential as a villain, he's ultimately just a coward who hides behind others instead of doing the work himself. THEN have that same sidekick have an epiphany and see that on some level Dib is right, especially since that no matter how hard he tries to teach Zim to better himself as a conqueror he won't learn. So once Norlock sees a way to seize power for himself he's quick to run for it.
    • When the Swollen Eyeball agents point out that Team Save Earth have constantly failed to collect any credible evidence that Zim or the other Irkens are aliens, Viera counters by pointing out that it's hard to gather evidence when you're in the middle of fighting for your life.
    • Zim's attempt early in Season 2 at blackmailing Gaz into serving him by threatening to reveal to Dib that she sold him out to Zim at the end of Season 1 fails because, as she points out, she doesn't care what Dib thinks of her, and even if she did, Dib is unlikely to believe anything Zim has to say about her anyway.
    • Nyx puts a bounty out on Dib, thinking that Zim will be pleased with her. Instead, he's pissed, since aside from the fact that he wants to kill Dib himself, she didn't even talk to him about it before doing it.
    • Dib is not happy to see Dwicky again, as despite his good intentions he did still lie to and trick Dib the last time they met. It's only after their new adventure together that Dib decides to (mostly) forgive him.
    • When Gaz is blamed for the damage caused to Game Slave Inc. headquarters by the rampaging rat people, she realizes she can't tell people what really happened because with her as the only witness, no one will ever believe it.
      • Gaz earlier abused her position during her trip to Game Slave Inc. by snitching on workers and/or making sure they get the blame for slights. So when she's accused of the damage committed by the rat slaves, a worker she abused is quick to pin the blame onto her. Even if he had been willing to believe her possible claim that the rat creatures were responsible or if he had also witnessed the incident, he'd be hopping at the chance to pay her back for her horrid behavior.
    • Because everyone (except Tenn) causes or otherwise gets involved in trouble during their Career Day assignments, they all end up sent to detention.
  • Chapter Six of Scraps and Oneshots is actually entitled "Reality Ensues", and places a realistic spin on the events of "Planet Jackers". Turns out having the planet be dragged light-years off course and left to orbit around a different sun has VERY negative consequences.

     Jackie Chan Adventures 
  • Queen of All Oni does this at the end of the story. Just because the heroes win doesn't mean that a Reset Button is hit on all the psychological damage incurred over the course of the story. It is specifically stated by several characters that things can never go back to the way they were.
  • Queen of Shadows deconstructs You Shall Not Pass! at one point — during the fall of the last free human refuge in Kyushu, Toguro attempts to halt Ikazuki's advance in a one-on-one duel. But as Ikazuki points out, this is only holding the General himself, while his forces continue their rampage, whereas otherwise Toguro could be fighting them all off.

     Jurassic World 
  • It takes several tries for Owen to get a full quartet of raptors in Tainted due to modern viruses killing some or all of the clutches he gets.
    • Despite his unparalleled bond with the raptors, to the extent of being able to safely sleep in the same room as them, no one else is happy about Owen taking them for walks after hours, with reactions ranging from insisting he's suicidal to calls for them to be put down.

     Kantai Collection 
  • Ambience: A Fleet Symphony:
    • In chapter 31, Sanford explains at length to the ship girls about how trying to uplift the Chicago poor by just having the rich give money away won't work.
    • In chapter 34, it's mentioned that staying underground without sunlight means Vitamin D supplements are needed.
    • In chapter 42, once Shiranui loses the element of surprise, Kongou clearly has the upper hand. In a fair fight, a destroyer can't beat a battleship, righteous anger or no.
    • In chapter 47, though she makes a valiant attempt, Yuudachi gets killed after being double-teamed by HMS Swordfish and Javelin.
    • In chapter 61, Damon tells Kongou that putting all of her heart into doing something won't help make it good if she doesn't actually know how to do it right.
    • In chapter 119, Kitakami recalls that she had been warned against returning to the Boise CCPL post because the ship girls' slowed aging might have led to inconvenient questions.
  • Ambience: Platoon (Moebius Four): Contingency Summer tells us that the rest of the world, not realising how big the threat really is, is getting nervous about Japan's rearmament to fight the Abyssals.
  • The Greatest Generation:
    • Just because everyone's fighting a war against the common enemy that is the Abyssals doesn't mean that all past hatreds and grudges magically vanish. Zuikaku is the most obvious kanmusu with objections to Yvonne's actions, but far from the only one.
    • This is reiterated in Chapter 5. The Akatsuki sisters are made painfully aware that modern geopolitics aren't as simple as they'd thought.
    "I don't understand, why people would distrust us for trying to capture an Abyssal?" Inazuma asked, "Aren't we all on the same side, nanodesu?"
    • In chapter 6 the narration notes that Japan, being as resource-starved as it is, can't make good use of refugee labour the way Australia or other more bountiful nations can.
    • Putting The Men First sounds noble in theory. But if public expectation and perception expects you to send your subordinates out to Hold the Line, even if doing so is a Senseless Sacrifice of a Suicide Mission, then refusing to do so will get you politically crucified.
    • In chapter 9, it's noted that the severe losses the US took have changed the geopolitical situation. Getting the World War II fleet back would swing things back in their favour, but failing to do so would only worsen their image further. And that's why they're suppressing the failure of the programme.

  • Given that he lacks both Dave's toughness (and newly gained skills) or Mindy's years of training and armory, when Marty joins the all-out brawl in Trip Like I Do, he ends up badly beaten and in a coma due to confronting a tougher, more experienced opponent.
    • Dave shows that Unskilled, but Strong doesn't help against someone who's both skilled and in good shape. At the start of his training, Mindy easily kicked his ass whenever they fought. After he Took a Level in Badass, Dave finds the (massive) guy who beat Marty into a coma and delivers a No-Holds-Barred Beatdown before finally killing him.
    • Mindy ends up badly injured against an untrained thug due to him getting the drop on her.

     Kill la Kill 
  • In Cellar Secrets, this happens in the case of Ryuuko being a Wild Child and the rehabilitation. For one, her age does play a factor, as the older she is, the less they can reclaim, along with the fact that she'll improve as time goes on but she'll still remain stunted. Likewise, she's is terrified of almost everything and knows enough speech to state a few things, but still has to learn how to use syntaxes. Said rehabilitation would be a long and ongoing one; at the beginning of the story, she stayed in an institution for awhile before getting to come home.
  • Concerning a Drifter has this in a few ways, as what happened to Ryuuko had gotten her pregnant four times by rape, as her captors likely didn't give her birth control, left her mentally ill and severely traumatized to the extent that she can no longer care for herself (this could happen), and the fact that Satsuki is deeply affected. Likewise, while the perpetrator and many others were sentenced, things don't go back to normal, as Ryuuko still lives in a mental hospital and doesn't return to her normal self, along with Satsuki not feeling satisfied.
  • The Crimson Garment has this with Satsuki. Unlike what we're shown in canon, Ragyo's abuse does have it's effects on Satsuki, as she associates touch/physical contact with domination, hates much to do with being touched, can't tell genuine love and care from manipulation, and she's terrified of her mother.
  • One line from Endless Numbered Days mentions that Satsuki used to smoke. One can guess this is what leads to her being diagnosed with lung cancer.
  • Ryuuko's brain tumor and the after effects in I Never Really Knew (and its sequels):
    • As noted in the story, meningiomas are uncommon in women under 55, thus they'd be harder to diagnose, on top of the fact that her symptoms pointed to other things, likewise, though some of her symptoms have gone after the surgery, Ryuuko is still left with poor vision and some paralysis, with no guarantee that her vision will come back because of how much of it's gone. In that vein, earlier in the story, when she's told the news about her sight and hospitalized after seizure, she doesn't take it well and was pretty upset, in which case, she cries in those instances.
    • Because Ryuuko's vision is poor, she startles easily, as Mako finds out in Seeing the World With Cloudy Eyes. In Orange Juice, unfortunately, her poor vision also makes her easier to trick since if the colors aren't bright enough, she can't tell a carton of milk from a carton from orange juice.
  • One More Time, One More Chance:
    • Ryuuko has a history of escaping and running away, so, in chapter 12, Satsuki expects this and takes precautions to make her escape plans moot by closing the gate to the property and putting security outside.
    • As noted in earlier chapters, due to negative experiences in the orphanage and when she was adopted out of it, Ryuuko doesn't have any reasons to expect she'd be treated well in another new home and so she's wary of Satsuki's intentions, along with not believing she had a sister. Tying into this, when she is recognizing that she's being treated well, she's rather clingy, not wanting Satsuki to leave, and not wanting to disappoint her, along with fearing the worse if she were to.
  • In The Outside, this is played with:
    • While Ryuuko's care under the guardianship of her sister was already iffy, her well-being wasn't being called into question. Regardless, some intervention would have been called for. However, when Aikuro (her tutor) notices Ryuuko's leg in a splint (she snuck outside to play with Mako and got hurt), social services are called and she's subsequently taken away, especially when it's made clear that she didn't get medical treatment (she treated her own injuries).
    • As said on the trope page, Ryuuko's stint in foster care is supposed to be temporary, until they can find her mother (or, at least, a more capable guardian).
    • In a later chapter, as "Rae" put it, three runaway foster children are not going to go unnoticed by their guardians and authorities. Likewise, as Chapter 18 points out, disguising a child that's reported missing doesn't really work if someone is very observant and there's too much of a coincidence, in which case, Tsumugu doesn't fall for Ryuuko's disguise, as, clearly, the latter looks too much like the missing girl.
    • Due to having been raised so sheltered, Ryuuko doesn't have any experience or knowledge of strangers, much less how to avoid dangerous ones. Likewise, in chapter 25, due to having been raised so sheltered (along with being a little malnourished and having not have had vaccines), she's more prone to illness and becomes seriously ill, as she hasn't been around other people to be protected by herd immunity. Adding something to this, her being raised sheltered and isolated has some bearing on her physical appearance as she's noted to be pale in complexion and, if Satsuki's slight negligence is to go by, she's a bit short for her age.
    • As noted earlier, raising anyone in the way Satsuki tried to raise Ryuuko, especially when they don't agree with the idea, is going to make them rebel, which the latter obviously does.
    • Since Satsuki was the only family she had known, Ryuuko's very attached to her and isn't adjusting too well to her absence. In that vein, when she meets her mother again after a decade, she reacts with fear.
    • As noted through the plot, isolation does not tend to do wonders to the psyche, as Ryuuko, due to having a few people to interact with, she becomes a cloudcuckoolander and, having little socialization, some of her emotional development was stunted.
  • Much of the conflict between Ryuuko and Satsuki in Secret Sunshine, especially in regards to Kiko.
    • Though she loves her niece, Ryuuko, from what we can get, does not feel the same way towards Kiko's mother, Satsuki, actually, she has a lot of resentment towards her for giving birth to and leaving Kiko with her, doing nothing (except setting her up with a house and sending checks), for two years, nor is she taking kindly to the idea of Satsuki wanting to re-enter her daughter's life, after said absence. In that vein, part of why she's so attached to Kiko is because, in a sense, she was abandoned, too, leaving them both without anyone to turn to. Likewise, she doesn't want to talk to or think about Satsuki at all because of this.
    • What taking care of Kiko entails on Ryuuko's end. Besides being attached, she makes it clear that parenthood requires sacrifice and it does, as taking care of Kiko came at the expense of her once carefree life of youth and her health, as, since, during what time she had to herself, she had nothing to (and, as implied, to cope), she just ate, getting heavier than what she was before, and, when funds were low (because of bills/expenses), she starved, so Kiko wouldn't go without.
    • When she hears that Satsuki's pregnant again, she's not happy with the news and, given her situation with Kiko, said news makes her more upset with her sister. She's also skeptical of Satsuki's ability to parent, as the latter, quote, "abandoned Kiko at the earliest instance".
    • When Satsuki visits Ryuuko in the hospital (after the latter is hit by a car), Ryuuko's not delighted to see her, actually, she's still hostile towards her.
    • Tying into the abovementioned, Kiko only knows and, therefore, sees Ryuuko as her mother, calling her "Momma" and getting upset with her absence, along with not taking kindly to being separated. When Ryuuko is hospitalized, she doesn't even notice Satsuki.

     Kim Possible 
  • In Zen and the Art of Ass Whupping Hirotaka finds out that having a black belt is not a guarantee of winning against an opponent who is equally skilled in a different martial art. Especially when said opponent is a foot taller, weighs twice as much as you do, and knows a few barfighting tricks that they're not afraid to use.
  • Commander Argus uses this in his KP series of fics. For instance, during Kim and Ron's senior year, a new principal is in charge of their school, who is just as averse to their missions taking them out of school as a Real Life school administrator would. Additionally, You Are Grounded does not contain an exception for missions.
  • Bleeding Through:
    • When Drakken and Shego attack Kim's high school, causing massive damage, the superintendent concludes that Kim and Ron's presence puts a massive bull's eye on the school and expels them. This, in turn, results in reality ensuing for the superintendent: First of all, Kim's parents sue him; second, when monsters attack the town, he belatedly realizes that, thanks to his actions, Kim and Ron are no longer there to defend everyone.
    • Also discussed in terms of just how the Go Team's powers actually work, since each one shreds the laws of physics into confetti. What's more, exposure to a radioactive meteor should really result in cancer instead of superpowers, let alone such radically-different superpowers in such closely-related subjects.
    • There's also the matter of Rufus' intelligence, which is explained as being due to him being Ron's familiar. Also, it's pointed out that the reason he doesn't speak full sentences is due to the fact that, as a rodent, he doesn't have the necessary vocal organs.
  • At The Centerfold Of The Storm
    • At the start of the story, much of the world is still recovering from the Lorwardian invasion, with many towns and cities still in the clean up phase.
    • While Dr. Director gave Shego a full pardon of her past crimes as thanks for helping to save the Earth, there are still many criminal organizations, corrupt officials and Banana Republics that felt no need to honor such, meaning she had to spend the year between the end of the series and the story effectively cleaning house. And even then, there are still countries where she's effectively Persona Non Grata.
    • One of the major themes is a Deconstruction of the Harmless Villains. It's explained that they simply had reservations about killing a minor. When it becomes apparent that Kim has grown up, they stop holding back. It is also discussed how an organization like Henchco. could function without Global Justice or other law enforcement agencies cracking down.
      • Even then, Henchco. is teetering on the brink. First is from the fact that Kim's actions have severely reduced the number of clients available. And then later, when he raises the bounty on Kim's head to $500 billion in cash, he learns the hard way just how cash-short his business really is. But the final nail in the coffin is when, after word of the bounty hits the news, and he's forced to use a credit card the get the rest of the payment ready, he ends up completely depleting all of Henchco.'s accounts. Between this, and Jim and Tim hacking into Hechco.'s servers, and all the dirty secrets therein, it's a tossup of whether Henchco. will file for bankruptcy before its accounts are frozen.
    • During the mission at Castle Senior (which, for the record, is located at a mountain glacier in Romania), Rufus is only used once, to save Bonnie from the McHenry laser grid. This is due to the fact that, as a naked mole rat, everything about his physiology (from the obvious lack of fur, to being one of the only species of mammal that's unable to regulate it's body temperature) is stacked against being in a cold environment.
    • When GJ finally cracks open Henchco.'s mainframe, you'd think all the dirty secrets would be all contained in one digital bundle, right? Turns out, it's a sprawling mass of data, and GJ is swamped trying to process it all.
  • Both of the above fics also reveal the fate of Team Go's parents: They died, aka, what normally happens when one is struck by a meteor with enough force to blow up a treehouse.

     Kung Fu Panda 
  • The Vow:
    • Po's father attempts to hold back Lord Shen's wolves from following his wife and son during the panda massacre. However, since he's a strong farmer but not a seasoned warrior, he quickly becomes wounded against half a dozen wolf soldiers. Before he nearly gets his throat sliced, he flees (though he takes a different route than his wife).
    • When Lady Lianne tries to convince her former friend Zhan the Wolf Boss that Lord Shen's plan to conquer all of China is folly, she points out that they'll be facing China's whole imperial army with the wolf pack, one tribe of gorillas, and a dozen cannons. Even if they win in the end, many of Zhan's wolves — who are family to him — will lose their lives. As much as Zhan doesn't want to hear this, he cannot shake off the truth of Lianne's argument.
    • During the epilogue, Lord Shen has a horrific nightmare about losing his family, so he tries to train with the body that is still recovering from bone injuries. Forcing himself to press forward despite the pain, he ends up injuring himself further and prolonging his recovery. No matter how much of a Determinator you are, your body — especially when severely injured — won't take more than it can.

     The Legend of Zelda 

     The Lord Of The Rings 
  • The Game of the Gods is thirty-three instances of this. Morgoth fashions Mary Sue after Mary Sue; Varda carefully imposes reality and lets their own impossibility do them in. Reality Ends Sues?
  • Don't Panic is all about this. A young woman falls into Middle-Earth...but she doesn't know any more Sindarin than your average Tolkien nerd, is not initially believed by everyone when she tells them she's from the far future, and she is not sent on the Quest, because why would they include a young woman totally unused to their world, with no weapons skills whatsoever?
  • Home with the Fairies, like Don't Panic, is what happens when someone beats the "girl falls into Middle-Earth" trope with the Reality Stick. Maddie has no idea how she got there, has no clue how to survive in a medieval environment, can't speak a lick of any of the languages, etc.

     The Loud House 
  • The fanfics by Orange Ratchet (especially Leni Loud The Genius?) do this in perhaps one of the most hilarious ways possible. In the show, Lincoln is known for being a Fourth-Wall Observer by notifying the audience of what he or his sisters do. In the stories, Lincoln continues to do it, but this time, everybody else actually notices it... and it freaks them out a bit in that what they're seeing is basically Lincoln talking to himself (or "talking to the wall" as the sisters put it).
  • Syngenesophobia, on the other hand, features a far more serious example:
    • In the show, it's a common Running Gag for Lincoln to get beaten up by his sisters, which leaves him nothing more than Amusing Injuries. In Syngenesophobia, however, Lincoln sustains injuries from a beating that are anything but amusing...
    • The end result is all the girls getting called out by their parents and peers (Although the readers never actually see the fallout themselves) , thus becoming outcasts.
    • After Ronnie-Anne beats Lynn up, out of avenging Lincoln. She ended up suspended for it, good intentions or not, school fights are not allowed.
      • It's later revealed that Lynn let Ronnie Anne beat her up, out of guilt for the way she treated Lincoln. When Ronnie Anne tries to pick a fight with her in a later chapter, Lynn knocks her out cold. Ronnie Anne may be tough, but she stands no chance against someone who's a virtual martial arts master.
    • The later chapters revealed that Lincoln's relationship with his sisters was already strained even before the beating, and the aforementioned beating was the final straw. While the later chapters shown that he's losing his fear, he begins to resent them all.
    • A thirteen-year-old child trying to control nine younger children is a disaster waiting to happen.
    • Lisa may be a Child Prodigy with a doctorate only at the age of four, but she also lacks the morals of a mature person.
    • Luan's April Fool's Day antics have severely damaged her relationship with her family and they're even outright scared of her.
    • The girls discussed about if Lincoln never forgives them, they should learn to accept it. In practice, however, while he rejected their apology out of fear than anger or spite, it's shown that talking about accepting is easier than action.
    • The world of pageants was not kind to Lola and the stress of trying to keep ahead of all the Alpha Bitch competitors warped her personality.
    • Even though Lincoln was willing to contact his sisters though text after losing some fear of them, he also begins to resent them, along with losing some (if not all) of the love and trust he had in them.
    • Most of Lana's pets were given away to an animal shelter, as the Loud family couldn't afford to keep them all. On a related note, one of Lana's snakes had to be put down because it ate several of the other animals in the shelter.
  • Requiem for a Loud has Lucy and the twins getting suspicious of the odd behaviors that everybody else in the family are displaying.note  Just because they're young kids doesn't mean they won't notice anything out of the ordinary.
  • Shattered Innocence: In this dark retelling of "No Such Luck", Mr. and Mrs. Loud are taken to be questioned, and receive life sentences after the authorities learned that they had locked Lincoln outside of the house, which gave the Royal Woods Stalker all the time to kidnap and murder him. The sisters are also made outcasts for their part.
  • Velvet Fist (Act I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII'') stars Leni who, upon being unmedicated, decides to go on a revenge scheme against all who wronged her. However, some of her schemes do not go completely according to plan, with unforeseen consequences left and right, and she realizes during it that some of the parties she wanted to get revenge on were not as wrong as she assumed at first and so toned down her revenge schemes against them, unlike in many such fics where the guilty stay just as guilty as assumed. Also, even with her best efforts to hide her changes from them, her siblings do pick up on how she is acting off.
  • Another fic tackling No Such Luck is Girls Among Sheep, although with a key difference in that it averts much of the extreme actions Lincoln's family took towards him in the episode. It turns out that Lisa never believed Lincoln was bad luck, and actually forged sham evidence showing he is to keep the other sisters from turning on her. Lincoln not attending a movie with the rest of the family was really a punishment for him lying about being bad luck to get out of hanging out with them. When Lynn Jr. panics and begs the parents not to kick Lincoln out for being bad luck, Lynn Sr. and Rita are shocked that she'd consider they'd ever do that to Lincoln, bad luck or not. Not only does Lynn Jr. apologize, but she and the rest of the sisters have an epiphany over how they treat their brother and resolve to be better.
  • By the same author as Code Geass: Ashikabi of the Amour Oneshot listed in the crossover section, Lincoln and the Vampire Louds Theoretical Oneshot applies some reality takes in its theoretical first chapter.
    • The fic has some mention of the idea that Lincoln is adopted into the family at around his canon age, as some fics do. However, the fic notes that it took a while for some of the sisters to take to him, as not everyone easily takes to a new family member. While most of the sisters have reached a point of a canon-like relationship with them (Bar Lola), it took time to get there.
    • Related to that, as the title suggests the Loud Sisters in this fic are in fact vampires, who are mostly friendly. However even after a year with them, Lincoln still is highly uneasy about the fact they (except for Luna), feed by ambushing and feeding on humans. And while the Loud sisters are friendly, some of them like Lynn, are not aware that it bothers Lincoln and remain blunt about it, while others like Lucy are aware of Lincoln's unease and try not to casually mention feeding on people.
    • Also related, Lincoln wasn't taken in by the Louds for no reason. Lincoln in the one-shot developed a special ability that allows him to tell if a person isn't a regular human, meaning that having him wandering around is dangerous for them, while killing him would bring in dangerous attention.
    • Continuing related trends, even without needing to kill or turn, vampires can be detected. Humans that are used to working with large groups of people, like Agnes Johnson, can pick up that a vampire child is somewhat different from a human child. Trends relating to blood loss, like nausea and dizziness cases, can be tracked as well, though without cause to look they aren't obvious.
    • Still related, as the world of the fic has a masquerade involved involving supernatural being and powers, there is a governing body. Said governing body, the Benevolence Society, has laws regarding behavior among such beings. Among them is vampire feeding, which the Louds do not follow and also have not registered with them. As a result, the moment the Society picks up that illegal vampire feedings are occurring, they amass their attention on solving the problem.
    • Finally, the Benevolence Society operates in the public sphere is an organization that advances the New England Federation's people culturally and financially, pushing for laws and ideals they support. Per Lincoln's own words, they promote "the virtues of Liberalism, Progress, Science, Tolerance," and other related ideals. Underneath the shadows in the side of the superhumans and supernatural beings the group is run and staffed by, they overage for the virtues of Liberalism, Progress, Science, Tolerance and everything else [they] publicly preached. Lying about what they do would make it easier for people to spot cracks in their organization's masquerade, and thus the organization follows all their rules, laws, and ideals to a T. The leader, who is taking the identity as Theron Dodekantheon the Fifth, still pays the taxes of Theron Dodekantheon the Fourth, averting Undead Tax Exemption and thus, another crack someone could follow into the rabbit hole.
  • No Such Luck, No Such Love is a Deconstruction Fic about Lincoln's Butt-Monkey status. All of the things that Lincoln suffered through is revealed to have stuck with him and he begins to resent his sisters (not Lily, since she's just a baby) and parents for it. In real life, there's no such thing as Negative Continuity, nor is there a Reset Button, and mistreatment is likely to stick with a person and make them spiteful.
    • In Chapter 11, Lincoln tells Clyde and Ronnie Anne about what happened during "No Such Luck"note . He makes them swear not to tell anyone because his parents could get arrested for kicking him out of the house and his sisters will be separated. The only reason he doesn't tell the police or any other person of authority himself is that he isn't spiteful enough to do so and wants to give his family a chance at redeeming themselves.
    • In Chapter 13, Chandlernote  gives Lincoln his bags after dodgeball practice. His reasoning for doing so is that the other boys will jump Lincoln in the locker room, which will result in everyone in the room getting detention because the people involved will just deny it.
    • In Chapter 16, Lynn, after discovering in the previous chapter that the team she lost against cheated, tries to apologize to Lincoln, but he doesn't accept it. An apology will not fix everything that Lincoln has been through.
  • In Missing Linc, despite his efforts to ensure otherwise, Dirk O'Donnell learns that unless someone is actually acting in a movie, play or TV show, they aren't going to stick to a script just because they've been told to do so. Especially when they're angry at you for kidnapping their brother. The only reason Ginny does is because he's forced her to do so her whole life.
    • As smart as Lisa is, she's still only four years old, so Lori is naturally concerned about her being able to look after Lily on her own. Similarly, however brainy she is, Lily is still only a baby and as such, can't always interpret the things she encounters.
  • In Fool Me Thrice, Luan receiving a Trauma Conga Line on the way home from a Wild Goose Chase after the moving van that supposedly had her belongings on it is met with horror by her family, especially since it involved her receiving a No-Holds-Barred Beatdown from adult bikers.
  • In An April Advisory, while Lynn Sr. sympathizes with Luna's anger over Luan pulling a prank on her despite being specifically asked not to, he can't condone her giving her younger sister a No-Holds-Barred Beatdown over it and grounds her. Killer period cramps are no excuse for beating your younger sister bloody even as she frantically begs you to let her go. On the flip side, Luan escapes punishment due to Lynn Sr. deciding that the beating she endured was punishment enough though he does make it clear that that's the only reason he's being lenient with her.
    • When Luan realizes just how furious Luna is over her prank through her sister breaking her nose, she quickly devolves into terrified pleading and said terror sticks around for days after the event, leading to her moving in with Leni (as Leni had her room to herself due to Lori having moved out).
    • Despite it being April Fool's Day and thus a day when Luan aggravates them, Leni and Lynn Jr. react to Luna's No-Holds-Barred Beatdown on Luan in protective fury, especially since Luan was in terrified tears and suffering a bloody nose and several bruises by that point and Luna appeared to be perfectly fine other than being damp (not to mention the younger kids were all freaked out by the brawl in question as well). And in the aftermath, Luna is a pariah to her family due to her actions.
      • However, both Leni and Lynn wind up with painful injuries for their interference, the former having gotten clocked in the head and the latter receiving a rather painful bite to the arm.
    • Lynn Jr. being hit over the head with a frozen baguette during the "the Louds think Bobby is cheating on Lori" fiasco actually was a medical concern as it bruised her forehead due to being frozen.
    • Lincoln is well-aware of what the menstrual cycle involves due to having 5 older sisters; this still makes him uncomfortable and he's reduced to a deep flush and stammering when Luna discusses the matter with him.
      • Conversely, of the 4 younger sisters out of toddler-hood, only Lisa was aware of what "that time of the month" is when it's brought up; Lucy and the twins have to have Lisa give them The Talk before they get it and Lola is absolutely revolted.
    • When Luna and Luan reconcile, they both end up admitting that they share blame in the whole mess. Luan even admits that when she was apologizing during the beatdown, it was more because she got caught and was in danger than because she was actually sorry, which she regrets for real this time.
    • While Luan admits that she's still kinda scared of Luna, even having nightmares about her beating, she also wants to make up with her

     Love Hina 
  • An Alternate Keitaro Urashima:
    • Keitaro refuses to run the Hinata Inn since, not only are several of the girls violent and don't want him there, he's got his own life to live and can't devote that kind of time to running the dorm. When Granny Hina tries to play the childhood promise card, Keitaro points out that you can hardly expect someone to stick by a promise they made when they were five and to a girl he barely even remembers.
    • Granny Hina's attempts to manipulate Keitaro into becoming manager cause massive rifts in their family. Turns out his parents don't appreciate how she lied either.
    • Haruka's tendency to punish her workers and abuse customers she dislikes lead to her getting sued and losing the teahouse.
    • Su has to get a part-time job to pay for some food she ate at the bakery that was meant for some customers, costing them clients. And even after she pays it off the bakery and other food stores post signs warning about her tendency to steal food.
    • After coasting by without paying her rent for several months, Kitsune has to pay it all back or get evicted.
    • Naru punching Keitaro nearly gets her kicked out of their cram school, and she becomes a social pariah.
    • After being warned several times, Motoko attempts to challenge Keitaro to a duel... and gets arrested and charged with attempted assault with a deadly weapon. Her fangirls get arrested as accessories. This leads to her expulsion from the Kendo Club.
    • Ryuichi lost his job after Ogi revealed how he'd stalked Keitaro and Miyabi.
    • After the fiasco with Keitaro, Shinobu starts reevaluating her relationship with the other girls and comes to the conclusion they've just been treating her as an Extreme Doormat.
    • Kyoshiro and Nanami (Keitaro and Kanako's parents) refuse to even consider letting Kanako drop out of school for over a year to go on a world tour with Granny Hina.
  • In Ancestor, (Kei)Taro Urashima developed a healing technique using Ki to stimulate a body's natural healing ability (he describes it as miracle grow) which can even be used to re-attach severed limbs. So when a particularly clumsy novice kept losing a finger or two trying to learn swordsmanship, the cells connecting his finger to his hand started rotting due to being several decades older than the rest of his body. In order to save his life, the healers had to amputate his arm.
  • Contract Labor
    • When Keitaro asks his trainers why he's being trained to shoot three targets at a time he's told no matter how good he is, if he's facing more than four enemies with guns at once, he'll probably "suffer a fatal dose of lead poisoning" before he can shoot them all.
    • One of the mercenaries on Seta's dig is left temporarily near deaf from firing his rifle inside a cave.
    • Motoko is banned from carrying deadly weapons (such as her katana) on her person in the dorm as it's a safety issue regardless of how skilled she is.
      • Likewise violence, except in self-defense, is not allowed at the dorm. Keitaro further states that any self-defense has to be proportional. Pushing someone off you is okay; punching someone out is not.
  • For His Own Sake:
    • The story begins with Keitaro leaving the Hinata Inn after three years of acting as the manager to a group of girls that appear to look for any reason to attack him. He also breaks up with Naru, viewing their relationship as unhealthy, warped, and one-sided.
    • Keitaro's parents are pissed off when they learn that their son was constantly assaulted or abused by his tenants.
    • When Keitaro's Aunt Marumi becomes manager, she declares that she will be converting the girls' dorm back to a regular inn and throws the girls out. After all, no sane manager would want to keep violent and troublesome girls in their inn.
    • Motoko is disgusted when Kanako reveals she has feelings for Keitaro right after learning they are siblings. Kanako quickly explains that they aren't really related, but Motoko doesn't buy the justification.
    • Because Seta is unequipped with dealing with his daughter, Sarah, he is forced to ship her off to a strict boarding school. The headmaster chides him for his poor parenting when he reveals why he is doing this.
    • Unlike Naru, Sarah, Su and Motoko at first, for the latter; Kitsune and Shinobu are able to realize their mistakes and sever ties with the rest of the Hina girls. Kitsune, while greedy, does acknowledge her part in Keitaro leaving because she isn't violent or unreasonable like Naru and Motoko are. Shinobu, while never taking part in the violence, is still chewed out by Keitaro because she never did anything to help him despite being more reasonable than the others and took Naru or Motoko's word for any accusations against him every time without learning from those experiences.
    • Kaolla Su decides to "cheer up" the guests at an inn by chasing them with exploding Mecha-tamas. Dozens are injured, the inn is nearly destroyed, and Kaolla is arrested as a terrorist. Not mention she puts a serious strain on her home country's own reputation.
    • Naru's Hair-Trigger Temper gets her into some very hot water when she punches a man that she assumed was making creepy passes at a woman. The man and woman are revealed to be a married couple. On top of that, he's revealed to be the career adviser at Tokyo University that Naru had an appointment with, meaning Naru put her academic future and job prospects in jeopardy because she made one very hasty, foolish assumption.
      • Naru's continued Victim Blaming when the school investigates sees her expelled, with her academic advisor noting what a shame it was.
  • In Love Hina: Like It Could Have Been, when the girls angrily declare that they'll never let a man be their manager, Keitaro leaves and instead smooths things over and strikes up a compromise with his parents (and thus not be forced to live at the Hinata Sou). This leaves Haruka as the acting manager for the dorm and she is not at all happy with the way the girls treated her nephew, nor with how they've been allowed to run wild under Granny Hina's watch. As a result, she brings down the hammer when implementing new rules - the girls are going to have to handle the property upkeep themselves since Keitaro won't be the manager and Haruka has her own business to run, Kitsune is told to either pay her rent on time or find a new place to live, and both Motoko and Naru are forced to reevaluate their distrust of men and learn to rein in their tempers so that some male carpenters can fix the damage Su's inventions have caused.
  • The Merry Killers shows what someone of Naru's strength could do if she punched someone other than Keitaro: her punch turns his head into a fine mist. Though in this story, she's a contract killer so it's fully intentional.
  • Several Love Hina stories have the girls get in trouble, often with the law, for assaulting someone they think is being perverted.
  • One story had Keitaro note that, despite what the girls accuse him of, he hasn't been getting erections during the various Crash-Into Hello moments. Whether he's crashing into them or they're falling on him, such situations are more painful than arousing.
  • The Magic Goes Away uses this very trope as its premise.
    • Kitsune's binge drinking leaves her with terrible migraines the following morning and significant weight gain. Similarly, her habit of flirting with men to get some money then dropping them is more dangerous with some not wanting to take "no" for an answer.
    • None of Su's inventions work and the few times she can get something running, the motor quickly burns out from the vast amount of power it's using.
    • Mutsumi's ditziness, random fainting spells, and general weakness fade, leaving her much healthier and more focused than before.
    • Naru's Megaton Punch disappears and since her primary form of stress relief is hitting something, her hand is continuously injured.
    • Shinobu stops being an Extreme Doormat and remembering the constant abuse her "beloved Sempai" has undergone causes her to start contemplating her rack of kitchen knives.
    • Motoko's attack on Keitaro breaks three of his ribs and damages his epidermis, hospitalizing him for almost three weeks. Subsequent injuries likewise take much longer to heal than his usual instant recovery.
    • The Hinata Inn sees far less damage since Su's machines don't work and no one is capable of sending Keitaro flying anymore, meaning he's no longer leaving holes in the roof and/or walls.
    • Both Naru and Motoko are arrested on different occasions for their Unprovoked Pervert Payback against Keitaro and (in Naru's case) a male nurse.

     Lyrical Nanoha 
  • Game Theory frequently does this with Talking Is a Free Action from as early as the first chapter. The whole cast is loaded with Combat Pragmatists, Crazy-Prepared and good at the Xanatos Speed Chess, which means that any character who gives a foe a breather (such as, well, by talking) will get his ass whooped. The fic also continuously shows that something believed to be Crazy Enough to Work... won't, precisely because of the "crazy" part (either you can't convince people to assist on the plan because of its risk or it creates too little an advantage to be bankable in the greater scheme of things).

  • How Roid's Plan Could have Backfired Horribly is a series of one-shots making horrible fun of Roid's master plan by showing how things could have backfired on him, starting with the canon scene where Roid declares Windermere the heirs of Protoculture being interrupted by a Zentraedi Main Fleet wiping out the planet in the odd chance he was right faster than they could use the Song of the Wind to brainwash them (and also being prepared to deal with it).

     Mai-Otome/ Mai-Hime 
  • In Oneesama, Shizuru giving a Skinship Grope to Natsuki is treated as sexual harassment by Miss Maria, who says Shizuru could be expelled if she felt it necessary. Thankfully, she's also a Reasonable Authority Figure, and decides on a punishment that forces Shizuru to humble herself and approach Natsuki as herself, rather than her persona as top Coral.
  • In Perfection is Overrated, a handgun is significantly less powerful than most of the Himes' Elements or Childs, but it still has enough power to kill someone. Shizune, whose special ability made those of the Himes useless finds this out the hard way.

     Marvel Universe 
  • In So Wrong, the fully adult Carol Danvers becomes especially close with the underage Peter Parker. When some of the characters find out, they don't treat it as normal and move on with their lives, they become concerned with the relationship, as any normal person would do if they found an adult dating a underage teenager.
  • In Mission Report Impossible, Quill has terrible spelling since he was kidnapped when he was nine then raised by space hillbillies while Rocket can barely write because he's basically a scientifically modified raccoon (he can, however, read eight different languages).
  • In My Grandson's Odd Family Peter Quill returns to Earth. When one of his cousins, obviously disbelieving him, asks him to correctly recall an event from thirty years prior, Peter fails, since, as it was unmemorable at the time and happened when he was a small child, he doesn't remember.
  • In The Amazing Spider-Man fics Extra Legs to Stand On and Ocelli, after the Lizard incident, Peter is questioned by the police when they remember that he tried to warn them about Curt Connors which pushes him into the media spotlight. There's a jurisdictional fight between the NYPD, the CIA, Homeland Security, the NSA and SHIELD due to the Lizard's actions counting as domestic terrorism.
  • In The Hotline the high-school aged Peter Parker develops a deep-seated fear of the police due to the frequent Police Brutality he faces as Spider-Man. The Mayor of New York and the NYPD try to boost their terrible reputation and distract people from their Police Brutality by working with the increasingly popular Spider-Man and rescind their arrest warrant on him. Which doesn't work as Spider-Man doesn't trust them and many cops would rather see Spidey arrested or dead regardless of public opinion or orders by their higher ups.
  • In Children's Crusade when Kate Bishop refuses to stop superheroing when caught by the Avengers, they stop calling her father and have her monitored by the reformed SHIELD. Which bites them in the ass as other young heroes such Spider-Man, Speed and Jonas Vision now refuse to have anything to do with the Avengers in fear that they will come after them and their families if they refuse to stop.
  • The Spanish fic Consecuencias shows what would happen if all superpowered individuals of Earth were killed, just like the Friends of Humanity would like:
  • Life In Reverse:
    • It shows Loki forced to consult a shrink when S.H.I.E.L.D. establishes he's emotionally volatile and as such a liability on missions.
    • The Avengers's reaction to Thor range from coldness to outright hostility, as someone they care about — Loki — is upset and frightened by the prospect of his arrival on Earth. Also, smashing windows is not a good way to prove you're not threatening someone.
    • Removed from Asgard and Thor's shadow, Loki discovers — with not a small amount of surprise — that not everyone holds Thor as a paragon and living embodiment of greatness. It starts with Clint outright dismissing the appeal of wielding Mjolnir, as he doesn't see a way to fit this power with his skillset. Than you have the Avengers being cold with Thor and worrying about Loki: they may have heard about Thor, but they know Loki and quite like him, which means they are not going to abandon the trickster for his brother when the latter shows himself.
    • In the very first chapter, Coulson introduces himself as S.H.I.E.L.D.'s contact to Loki by taking an appointment with his landlady and the god tartly remarks S.H.I.E.L.D. should have used the civilized approach first: kidnapping attempts kinda send the wrong message, and Loki shows a good amount of mistrust towards the organization even after being accepted as an agent.
  • A majority of Team Iron Man fics have Tony forgive Bucky Barnes for killing his parents. Why? Because intellectually, Tony knows that Bucky was brainwashed, and therefore cannot be held accountable. The reason he reacted as he did in Siberia was because he literally just found out that not only were his parents murdered, and not in a car accident like he'd always believed, but that Steve had known about it and kept it from him for years. Had he been told sooner, and had time to process the information, the fight in Siberia probably wouldn't have happened. It also helps that Tony doesn't know Bucky personally, whereas Steve had been his friend and teammate for years, making his betrayal hurt all the more.
  • Second Chances Series:
    • In the aftermath of Captain America: Civil War, Tony Stark suffers from PTSD after nearly being killed by one of his friends and required multiple surgeries (including implanting an artificial sternum) to fully recover from his injuries. Seeing his dead parents suddenly alive again ends up triggering a panic attack.
    • When trying to confirm his parents' identity, Tony doesn't trust a fingerprint scan as SHIELD had a record of them, meaning Hydra did too. When he asks what he wanted for his seventh birthday, Howard responds that he can't remember as it was ten years ago.
    • Once they realize they actually died and were resurrected, the Starks spend some time dealing with nightmares and panic attacks reliving their murders.
    • Though they are in perfect health, the Starks are warned that they're in perfect health for their age. Howard has to give up alcohol as his body can't take it any more.
    • Vision also sees a therapist regularly, though in his case it's to understand how to be human and all the unusual ways they behave.
    • When finally caught and tried, Natasha gets far less sympathy than any of the other members of "Team Captain America". Scott, Sam, and Bucky were all apologetic with the latter clearly not having been in his right mind while Steve was trying to protect a friend and Wanda wanted revenge on the man she held responsible for her family's deaths. Natasha shows only cold detachment and apathy towards the lives she destroyed.
    • Bucky/James is the only member of "Team Captain America" to avoid prison time but instead is sentenced to nine years in a psychiatric facility. He's not held responsible for his actions as the Winter Soldier due to the extenuating circumstances of his torture and brainwashing, and it's made clear that he had very little idea of what was happening during the Civil War. That he's a mentally ill World War II veteran and former POW only garner him more sympathy.
    • While the Starks know intellectually Bucky/James Barnes wasn't responsible for murdering them, they're still terrified of the man who beat them to death.
    • Part of why Steve felt Wanda was relatively harmless despite being a former Hydra agent is because the vision she showed him simply reminded him of what he lost and made him feel as lonely as awakening from the ice had. He admits to himself that if he'd faced his worst fears like the others, he probably wouldn't have wanted Wanda as an Avenger.
    • Having a few years advance notice of a pending invasion is not a lot of time for a planet that doesn't have a planetary defense system. Tony and the Accords Panel are scrambling to get such a defense system set up while also making sure it can't be used against Earth at a later point. Likewise, there's tremendous efforts to make sure communications and other systems don't fail during an invasion.
    • Many "Enhanced" are wary of outing themselves to the worlds by signing the Sokovia Accords both because Steve Rogers' actions ruined the reputation of Enhanced in general and because for decades SHIELD dealt with troublesome Enhanced by tossing them in The RAFT and throwing away the key.
  • The fanfic The Party shows the tragic consequences of Tony going to his crowded birthday party drunk and in his Iron Man Suit, and fighting Rhodey in Iron Man 2.
  • Self-Insert Michael McCole in A Twelve Step Program to Omnipotence manages to gain both the Hulk's powers and Extremis. But when he tells his Mad Scientist Samuel Sterns he wants his skeleton coated with vibranium, he's told it's not doable. Even if the surgery could be performed without immediately killing him, and that's a big if, he'd die from strangling his bone marrow. And if that didn't kill him, his body's extreme internal temperature makes it likely the vibranium would melt inside him, rending the whole process meaningless.
    • Later, after using a serum developed by Sterns to double his intellect, he doesn't gain any new knowledge, but he better understands things he already knew and learns new things easier.
    • When Michael and Sterns start selling what's clearly an arc reactor with the serial numbers filed off, Tony Stark admits that despite what Pepper argues, Stark Industries can't sue them. While the fact he never patented the arc reactor means Michael and Sterns are technically in the clear from a legal standpoint, the real problem is that the sheer goodwill this new company has produced by providing relatively cheap clean energy means SI would come off as the villains.
    • Michael and Sterns, along with their cohorts Noah Burstein and Phineas Mason need someone to run their company for them as none have any real business savvy or interest in running a company, let alone a soon to be multi-billion dollar Mega-Corp.
  • Because he's the only Avenger willing to deal with the media, Tony Stark becomes the face of the Avengers in The War Is Far from Over Now, which also ties his company to the Avengers. As a result, the events of each film are nightmares for Stark Industries legal and PR departments, especially with the various Avengers not helping at best and actively making things worse at worst.
    • As he's only physically fought with Captain America and has been notably impressed with the intellect and knowledge of the likes of Tony Stark and Jane Foster, Thor doesn't realize how different humans and Asgardians are from a physiological standpoint. At the time, he thought pulling a Neck Lift on Tony was a harmless way to show how angry he was with the Ultron situation (because it heavily reminded him of Loki) and was genuinely horrified and apologetic when he learned he could have easily killed Tony.
    • Vision was only "alive" for an hour before getting thrown into battle against Ultron and his Chitauri, making him far less effective than he should be due to having only limited understanding of what his powers are or how they worknote .
    • Despite some of the Avengers treating the two as functionally interchangeable, from a political perspective, War Machine and Iron Man are almost complete opposites. Tony Stark is one of the bigwigs (and former CEO) of one of the biggest multinational companies on the planet and a private citizen so he can often enter foreign countries if for no other reason than Stark Industries having holdings there. In such cases, he can use Plausible Deniability to claim he had his Iron Man armor in case of emergency and just happened to end up using it. James Rhodes however, is a colonel in the United States Air Force and his War Machine armor is considered a military asset. If he enters a foreign country in his armor without authorization, it's technically an act of war, just the same as if he flew a fighter jet in and started blowing things up in a fight. As a result, there's a lot of paperwork involved in non-emergency deployments for Rhodey and emergency deployments have almost as much paperwork, just with most of it done afterwards.
    • In the tie-in story From the Other Side, many former SHIELD agents end up suffering from PTSD after being captured and interrogated by HYDRA and other enemy agencies due to Natasha dumping all of SHIELD's files online. While some of the agents who don't return to SHIELD do so out of bitterness, others are just too traumatized to carry on being secret agents.
    • Wakanda's isolationism means they don't have extradition treaties set up with any other country. So when T'Challa demands Wakanda have justice for T'Chaka's coma, Tony informs him that the rest of the world doesn't really care what a poor third world country wants.
    • After delivering a No-Holds-Barred Beatdown to Steve and Bucky in Siberia, Tony regrets taking things as far as he did, particularly with Bucky whom he knows isn't truly responsible for killing his parents.
  • Enough Rope:
    • Bruce Banner points out how five Winter Soldiers wouldn't be capable of holding a small village, let alone taking over/destroying the world. No matter how good they are at killing, they're still only five people.
    • Despite Ross being a major Jerkass, Tony still has to play nice with him due to the man's position.
    • Spending hours semi-conscious in an abandoned Siberian bunker in a suit with no power leaves Tony badly frost bitten, to the extent his fingertips have to be amputated.
    • When Wanda makes a remark about an interviewer asking Tony questions he doesn't want to answer, Scott informs her that interviews don't work like that. Both parties meet up before hand to negotiate which questions can and cannot be asked and while some reporters might try to ask some unapproved questions, they know better than to try with Tony Stark who's not only rich and powerful, but is known to walk out on interviews if someone does.
    • While some people think Captain America might have been right to oppose the Sokovia Accords, they all agree he went about it in the wrong way. Attacking police officers and harming civilians only weakens his position, especially since Rogers could have instead argued his point with the United Nations or even simply staged a hunger strike in protest. Captain Britain even says that Rogers' actions "poisoned the well" for independent superheroes like him.
    • Brian Braddock carelessly uses the same phone for both his hero and civilian identity so quite a number of people knew he's Captain Britain, though MI13 kept his enemies from learning it.
    • Bodycams make it harder for both sides of an argument to falsify things. While various governments could string footage together to make heroes look bad, the heroes have their own copy to offer as counter-evidence. Likewise, heroes might be protected against false accusations, but still have to watch their behavior since everything they do as heroes is being recorded at all times.
    • While it is serious Paranoia Fuel, the fact that in this story Wanda sometimes messed with people's minds on accident is great news for Scott's and Clint's court case as it massively strengthens their defense if it can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that they were completely in their right minds during the battle at the Berlin airport.
    • Wanda being Easily Forgiven is torn apart by Laura Barton in argument with her husband, who points out that in actuality at least 3 Avengers (Tony, Bruce, and Clint himself) all were actively angry with her or at least were squeamish around her. She also points that Wanda's abilities made her a much bigger threat of manipulating the team than Tony.
    • The whole fic intends to apply realistic geopolitical and political concerns to the events of Civil War. For one thing, General Ross is not presented as the untouchable force he was in the film (with it even noted in the intro notes that other countries' leaders wouldn't be enthusiastic about a warhawk American being granted so much authority). The Avengers besides Tony and Natasha not knowing about the Accords is addressed by them not following politics around them, since such a large and complex arrangement WOULD be discussed long enough for news to have trickled down beforehand. Other countries don't appreciate having vigilantes smashing around their property regardless of whether said vigilantes are doing "what's right."
  • What If:
    • Thor's relationship with Jane carries a number of troubles which Frigga spells out quite clearly. First, Thor will outlive Jane and mourn her for far longer than their relationship can possibly last. Second, from Jane's perspective, she won't have someone she can grow old with. Lastly, though Thor is upset at seeing Jane only once a week, that's because he's thinking in mortal terms, something that is less common the more time he spends away from Earth. For an aesir like himself, seeing a lover once a week is a remarkably ardent courting.
      • Jane's side of the relationship is considerably healthier than canon. Unlike the films, where she became completely despondent when Thor leaves after only a few days of knowing him, she's well functioning even though their relationship takes place over a few months. Furthermore, their eventual break up isn't because Thor didn't call often enough, but because of his continued Can't Argue with Elves attitude rubs her the wrong way and means he doesn't truly see her as his equal.
    • Much of Asgard's dislike for Loki came from the belief he was a bastard due to Odin claiming him as his son yet no one ever seeing Frigga pregnant during the right timeframe.
    • Because Loki was the rightful king during his rule in Thor, Sif and the Warriors Three's actions against him are indeed crimes against the throne, however Loki's unpopularity means Odin can't punish them officially. Frigga "suggests" they request a mission that will take them away from Asgard for a few decades as unofficial punishment, with Odin citing that a mourning mother is allowed to be ruled by her emotions.
    • When Steve is wondering who he can trust to not be a HYDRA agent or somehow tip them off, Sam and Natasha point out it's physically impossible for HYDRA to have bugged every phone in the world. Since Sam is just someone Steve occasionally talks to on their runs, his phone is clean and Steve uses it to call in the Avengers.
    • Despite the helicarriers never getting off the ground and the info dump never happening, Black Widow is thrown in prison after the events of Winter Soldier because her defense still amounts to blackmailing the world with the idea that they "need her" to protect them. Her attorney even points out that there's at least half a dozen loyal SHIELD agents with her skill set.
    • Without the info dump, vetting every agent in SHIELD takes months and a lot of them fall into a grey area between definitely being loyal to HYDRA and definitely being completely innocent.
    • HYDRA agents only managed to take over SHIELD due to the latter lacking the checks and balances of more legitimate agencies. HYDRA agents in groups like the KGB, SAS, and CIA never managed to get very far up the chain of command before being found out.
    • Before allying with them, Ultron makes sure the Maximoff twins won't suddenly decide Tony Stark wasn't the one ultimately responsible for their parents deaths and abandon their plans to kill him. He even takes the time to point out that their hatred is irrational since Tony Stark stopped making weapons a year before their parents died and that whoever launched the missiles was more responsible. Granted, Ultron doesn't care that their hatred is irrational; he just wants to make sure they won't give up on their revenge unexpectedly.
    • Wanda's habit of peeking into other's minds comes back to bite her when she uses her powers on Melinda May in South Africa. Since Melinda's fear is having to kill a child again, she hallucinates shooting Wanda, who feels the gunshot due to being in Melinda's mind at the time. The result is both trying desperately to prevent Wanda's death from a gunshot wound that doesn't exist.
    • Steve Rogers isn't an actual captain in the army, having little to no actual training, and while Sam and Rhodey do suggest Steve take officer training, they intend to spin it as Steve seeing what's changed in seventy years so people don't learn that Captain America was basically an untrained civilian in a warzone.
    • When Steve starts calling people about the Winter Core, Sam and Clint both refuse. Clint reminds Steve he's retired and tells him to call Tony instead. Sam points out how simply it'd be for the Avengers to handle things, saying that if Steve just gives them the location, Maria Hill could have it surrounded within the hour.
    • When T'Challa brings Everett Ross to Shuri, asking if she can save him, she reminds her brother that she is a sixteen year old engineer who revolutionized their mining industry, when would she have time to study surgery. Instead she calls up a friend who is a surgeon.
    • As a child, Shuri begged her parents to make her Wakanda's Head of Technologies so she could research whatever she wanted without having to listen to anyone else. Once they explain to her that said position is entirely administrative and focuses on doing what is best for the country rather than just what interests her, Shuri quickly changes her mind.
    • Hulk has to bring out Bruce to explain to Thor why he can't fly off Sakaar in the Quinjet: namely, because the wormholes off Sakaar can lead literally anywhere, making their most likely destination outer space, and the Quinjet isn't a spaceship and can't fly outside of atmosphere.
  • Don't come crawling back to me has Captain America with allies' presence in Wakanda revealed by a member of T'Challa's court, who posted the info on Facebook. King or not, not everyone in Wakanda is going to accept the presence of not just foreigners but fugitives only on T'Challa's sayso.
  • Nobody's Heroes
    • Sam Wilson goes to one of Wakanda scientists to get his wings fixed and he's told that not only will it be three months before it can be worked on, but it'll cost roughly $15,000 to do so. Not only is said scientist too busy with more important things to do it earlier, but the wings are very sophisticated and will need expensive materials to fix.
    • Wanda's full role in the events of Age of Ultron is exposed to the public via Wiki Leaks. This leads to her name being cursed (to the point that her homeland revokes her citizenship), Tony's being vindicated (at least to a point), and T'Challa placing her under house arrest.
    • General Ross is discharged for his antics instead of getting away with it all. It's pointed out that he had no actual authority over Stark and had no position in the UN to interfere with its going-ons how the movie said or implied he did. Everett realizes that Ross' scheming risk to ruin America's standing among other countries considering how displeased the UN Security Council AND the White House were once they learned about Ross' actions.
    • Unlike some stories where characters casually read and understand the Accords, Scott Lang needs the help of a local lawyer (who specializes in constitutional law) to make sense of the document, which is almost two thousand pages long and filled with technical terms.
  • In Uncompromising Principles, the amount of force taken to destroy the arc reactor in Tony's suit is such that his ribs are badly broken. Tony ends up dying from collapsed lungs before he can be rescued.
    • Unlike some stories, where Steve sticks to his guns no matter what, upon learning he accidentally killed Tony, Steve is absolutely horrified and leaves Wakanda to turn himself in.
    • While T'Challa agrees to shelter Captain America and his allies, he makes it clear that he has no intention of letting them commit a PR disaster that'll bounce back on Wakandan soil. He bluntly tells them that if they leave the country and continue to defy the law, they will be no longer welcome in Wakanda. He also says that while he did aid them, he doesn't reject the Accords and that he merely opposed Ross' abuses.
  • Set an Example shows that giving the rogue Avengers pardons in exchange for fighting Thanos sets a dangerous precedent. Many mob enforces, supervillains, and more get out of prison on the same deal due to their (much better) lawyers arguing that if the situation really is so dire as to let international terrorists go free in order to improve Earth's odds of survival, then others with similar capabilities should be offered the same chance.
  • At the start of Wake Up, Princess, Tony Stark announces that he's been forced to retire as Iron Man. His fight against Captain America and the Winter Soldier shattered his ribs and even after they've fully healed, his ribcage isn't nearly as strong as it should be and can no longer handle the strain of piloting the Iron Man armor.
    • Scott running off to help Captain America has negative consequences for him. He is told that he's fired from his job and that contrary to Steve's assumption that Tony arranged it, it was all Dr. Pym's doing (making it obvious he isn't happy about Scott's actions).
    • Nick Fury chews out Captain America for his actions, pointing out the obvious problem with Rogers' attitude in that it disregards the geopolitical issues of having a largely American force of superheroes trampling around the world, that his actions have only succeeded in convincing enough politicians and civilians the Accords ARE needed since Steve's posse have shown them they can't be trusted to operate unsupervised, and that his actions WILL impact other superpowered men and women. He's told by Phil that he's been disavowed by the US military and that since he's ultimately a private citizen he's open to getting held accountable for his antics, via foreign governments hounding him or by way of lawsuits.
  • According to Rhodey in To Intervene, when Steve and Natasha burned SHIELD, they didn't just hurt HYDRA and SHIELD. SHIELD had files on every US intelligence agency which resulted in countless agents being captured on foreign soil and even years later, most of them still haven't been released.
    • The Sokovia Accords affect every super, not just the Avengers. Tony spends months reaching out to every enhanced individual and organization he can find all over the world in order to get their input on things. The way things are shaping up, so many enhanced will be involved that the opinions of the Avengers will be largely irrelevant.
    • After the Avengers admit they didn't bother staying informed about a deal to put them under the jurisdiction of the DIA, Natasha is informed that her idea of scrapping the deal and starting over isn't feasible because the DIA would have no reason to believe they'd honor a new deal after scrapping the old one without even trying to make it work.
    • Once the Avengers are put under the DIA's jurisdiction, they quickly notice Steve and the others traversing all over Europe looking for Bucky and promptly lock the Quinjet so it requires a mission authorization code to start. Like any business, the DIA doesn't allow employees to use company assets for personal reasons, regardless of who they are.
    • Tony starts getting therapy from Charles Xavier to help with his PTSD. Unfortunately, because Tony's solution for the past several years was to repress everything, he's initially more prone to episodes as he learns to cope.
    • When someone suggests a Super Registration Act being added to the Sokovia Accords in front of the UN, Germany and Austria immediately shut the idea down with the rest of Europe following, with The Holocaust not outright mentioned but certainly alluded to.
  • In Balance, after learning that Bruce can't turn into the Hulk any more, Rhodey has him help Shuri and Dr. Cho with treating Vision rather than put him on the front lines in an Iron Man armor, citing that he'd be more useful healing Vision.
  • Calling You Out!
    • In prompt 14, T'Challa is arrested in Korea for his destruction of private property and because he broke the Sokovia Accords which he just signed less than two weeks prior. Ross also informs him Okoye got shot when she climbed on top of Nakia's car while Nakia has a concussion and road burn from Klaue blowing up said car.
    • In prompt 17, despite allowing the rogue Avengers to return to the compound, Rhodes is still pissed at them, though not for his broken back like Sam assumes. He's upset because they extended their distrust of the government to their friends and allies, withholding information on what they believed to be a global threat.
    • In prompt 25, Tony has each of the Avengers (except Thor who's offworld) get a check-up so they have up to date medical files. When Steve questions the necessity, especially since Bruce is immune to all diseases, it's explained that even if they aren't infected, they could still be carriers. Clint comments that SHIELD did similar things whenever they came back from missions in certain countries/regions. Similarly, they can't simply tell Tony's team everything as they might not remember or know every important detail.
    • In prompt 28, Scott Lang is arrested during the events of Ant-Man and charged with (among other things) Aggravated Theft and Corporate Espionage by Stark Industries. After Scott got away, Falcon reported the theft at the Avenger's Compound. Once it comes out why Scott stole from the compound and for whom, Hope and Hank are arrested as well. While the charges against Hope are dropped and Scott gets a plea deal since he wanted to call the Avengers in, Hank goes to prison since his justification amounts to hating the Stark name.
    • In prompt 33, Everett Ross is suspended pending a review of every arrest he's made due to his claim that Bucky wouldn't be getting a lawyer after his arrest in Bucharest. Even though he was lying and merely voicing his opinion that Bucky shouldn't get a lawyer, claiming an intention to violate someone's rights is not permitted by any law enforcement agency. Likewise, despite Sharon Carter bringing said claim to the head of the CIA's attention, she's still investigated under suspicion of having stolen Falcon's and Captain America's confiscated gear.
  • I Hope You Have Unlimited Text Messaging:
    • Steve keeping the secret about the deaths of Tony's parents was largely unintentional, as Tony comes to realize long after he had forgiven Steve for it. Steve learned about the situation while in the middle of the crisis and dwelling on it wouldn't change the fact that Howard and Maria were dead. Tony himself wouldn't have had much of a reaction to it either aside from sharing Steve's burning hatred for HYDRA, as his parents have been dead for years and he's long-since moved on from their deaths. As it wasn't really going to change much in the long run, Steve just never got around to telling him since there were more important things going on.
    • Also, Steve legitimately did not know whether or not Bucky was responsible. HYDRA has more than one assassin after all. He suspected, but he didn't know for sure until Zemo showed the video to them in Siberia. This is even more justified when he and Tony learn about Howard's prior assassination attempts (nine in total), which were all perpetrated by HYDRA's other assassins. HYDRA didn't break out the Winter Soldier until they knew they couldn't leave Howard alive any longer — most likely because of the possibility of Howard recognizing him and breaking his programming.
      • Howard's own previous assassination attempts are a case of this. As a founder of S.H.I.E.L.D. and revolutionary inventor and industrialist, it was unlikely to begin with that the Winter Soldier was his first assassination attempt (last and successful, sure, but first?). In fact, it's more surprising that all the previous attempts were orchestrated by HYDRA and not other parties who had just as much reason to want Howard dead.
    • The Sokovia Accords were conceived of and written when it was believed that the Avengers and a few select others were the only enhanced people on the planet. Thus, the sudden population explosion of Inhumans thanks to indirect exposure to the Terrigen Mists is something the Accords aren't prepared to deal with, and many are trying to take advantage of the situation to either exterminate enhanced humans or to weaponize them. This situation validates Steve's fear about the Accords being abused by those in positions of power, and a running subplot of the fic is Tony's attempts to fix the situation by trying to arrange for the Accords to be amended. This situation is also why, unlike canon, Tony outright refuses to have Peter reveal his identity, because, as a minor, it's still unclear whether the Accords should apply to him or not yet, even if he is an Avenger.
    • Ross starts having his men stalk Laura Barton in hopes of fishing out the whereabouts of the rogue Avengers. As Tony and Steve both lampshade, there is no way in hell that is anywhere near the State Department's jurisdiction. Thus, when he finally does pick up (read: kidnap) Laura, Tony has his team of lawyers rip him and the DOS to pieces to get her back, which takes only a couple of days. It's also noted that enforcing the Accords aren't under the DOS's jurisdiction either, only negotiating them and making sure they're legal under the provisions of the Constitution and any other U.S. laws. Ross actively seeking out the rogue Avengers falls squarely under the latter; ultimately, it's one of the nails that leads to his forced resignation in the latter half of the story.
  • Desire Written in Olive
    • Even though Wanda knows Tony is marrying her to keep people from realizing what she did in Sokovia (particularly that she's former HYDRA), it takes several months before the two aren't at each other's throats and a couple years for anything approaching love to develop between them.
    • Growing yourself to giant size when you've only done it once in a lab and passed out immediately? Bad idea. Scott is fine for a short period but quickly collapses and the following chapter reveals the damage to his body is extensive enough it's unlikely he'll ever walk again.
  • The Spider
    • Rookie heroes like Spider-man, Marvel Girl, and Black Cat tend to start off with poorly made Civvie Spandex due to a lack of funds and skills. Peter Parker notes his first attempt at a costume had a pattern barely recognizable as a spider due to his poor sewing skills, while Felicia wore a black tracksuit and domino mask.
      • Armor is not useless. Peter and Felicia both have armored costumes as neither of them is bulletproof.
    • Marvel Girl decides to go superheroing with almost zero training and is nearly killed by an attack from behind because she has no fighting experience and didn't realize he wasn't unconscious yet. Peter tells her both as a civilian and as Spider-man that she needs more training in both her powers and hand to hand combat before she can act as a superhero.
    • After a video of Spider-man fighting the Rhino's Mini-Mecha goes viral, most small time criminals either flee or surrender the moment they spot him, not wanting to tangle with a man who beat up a tank.
    • Despite what Peter feared, SHIELD wasn't aware of Black Cat's identity, with Natasha mentioning that they don't have the resources to track down every thief and criminal who isn't a terrorist threat.
    • Peter, as a Self-Insert, has a lot of knowledge no one else does but can't always utilize it because there's no way to explain how he knows what he does. For example, he can suggest the idea of a spy being within SHIELD due to a questionable mission but can't tell anyone that HYDRA has infiltrated SHIELD.
    • A Hero with Bad Publicity tends to happen because heroes don't address the media often/at all. Once Spider-man gets a verified Twitter account, he quickly manages to fight off any bad publicity with people he's saved frequently coming to his defense.

Daredevil (2015)

  • The fanfic What They Wouldn't Do shows off how Matt Murdock's double life as Daredevil greatly affects all aspects of his life, especially his love life.
    • The TV series never established what the consequences if Matt is outed as Daredevil in public would be. So one scene has Matt explain to Foggy why, for example, he doesn't want Sarah Corrigan telling his name to anyone, and having to threaten her physically to do so: if the NYPD learns that Matt is Daredevil, he'll likely get arrested, charged, and disbarred, and then thrown in jail along with many of the crooks he's taken down, meaning he'd likely risk being killed in retaliation pretty quickly. Foggy would likely be disbarred too since there's no way the police wouldn't think he was oblivious to Matt's activities. Claire and Karen would likely be investigated to no end. And Sarah works at a shady company that used to be run by Wilson Fisk, so any slip-up there means a whole platitude of violent crooks being sent after them.
    • It's established that Karen has become somewhat paranoid after killing James Wesley. Her face turns pale when she finds a photo of Wesley's body in Sarah's purse and she later mentions keeping tabs on the police investigation into his death.
    • After being initially blackmailed by Wesley, Sarah tried to go to the police, unaware that there were crooked cops on Fisk's payroll. The desk officer warned her not to come back lest she wanted to get herself killed. Even after Fisk is arrested, Sarah still doesn't trust the police because there's no way to know if the FBI sweep missed a few corrupt cops. Turns out some of the crooked cops are still working for the guys who run Fisk's former shell companies.
  • The fanfic Murdock & Knight sees Matt have a rivalry with a new character, 15th precinct detective Riley Knight (similar to but no relation to Misty Knight) during the period after Fisk's arrest. At the start, Riley is shown to be disillusioned with the "Welcome to the 15th Precinct, the Pride of Hell's Kitchen" banner at the front desk in light of practically half the 15th precinct's cops being found to be in Fisk's pockets (she's also one of the cops who got shot by the sniper that shot Detective Blake). Early on, Matt is hesitant to trust Riley, as he's pretty sure that some of the bent cops in Fisk's pockets covered their tracks and minimized their involvement. It's also mentioned that one of the corrupt cops was the precinct's very lenient Captain, who has now been replaced by a strict no-nonsense guy with no tolerance for cops like Riley who disobey orders or step out of line.
  • The oneshot Every Single One of Us provides an extension of the final scene in season 2, when Matt confesses his secret identity to Karen. While Karen's more forgiving than Foggy, she's quick to point out that a lot of the strain Matt's double identity had on his relationship with Foggy stems from the way events in his double life caused him to miss work or be late for important meetings (like during the Castle trial) without calling ahead. While Karen merely thought Matt was hung overnote  Foggy had to fear that his best friend had gotten hurt or killed.
  • A different take on Karen's reaction, Better - Now depicts Karen having a mixed reaction, something that's not exactly a reaction of love but not one of anger, deconstructing The Reveal Prompts Romance.
  • Most takes on how Karen discloses to Matt that she killed James Wesley have to work around this, especially those that take place after the events of season 2. During Frank Castle's trial, there was a scene where Karen was at Matt's apartment discussing whether or not Frank's deadly methods of vigilantism were acceptable, and Matt gave Karen the impression that he thought killing people was absolutely wrong. Karen is surprised that Matt finds it okay that she killed Wesley, and he has to clarify that he doesn't think badly of her for it because she felt guilt and remorse over her actions, not to mention that Wesley had forced her hand; this compared to Frank Castle, whose decision to kill people wasn't because he had no other choice, but because he didn’t care about that choice or the consequences that came from it.
  • All I want is someone to believe - this take on Matt telling Karen his identity was based on two things, according to the author: one was interviews where Charlie Cox mentioned just how lost and guilty Matt feels in light of Elektra's death. But the author also points out that quite a lot of stuff happens to Matt and Karen individually after they've stopped talking to each other, so neither of them knows just what the other has been going through. Karen, in particular, in the span of the last four episodes 1) got shot at in Reyes' office, 2) got shot at in her apartment, 3) witnessed Frank Castle kill two of the Blacksmith's men at the diner in brutal fashion, 4) got held at gunpoint by Colonel Schoonover, then witnessed Frank kill Schoonover despite Karen begging him to spare him and turn him over to the police, and 5) got kidnapped by the Hand, witnessed them kill one of the hostages on the bus, and got a gun pointed at her head for talking to Turk Barrett. As a result, in this fic, Karen is mentioned to not be sleeping well, jumps at every unexpected sound, and what rest she does manage to get is punctuated by nightmares. During the conversation, she hears audible cracks and finds herself scampering into the conference room, showing that Karen has developed PTSD in light of everything that's happened.
  • So You Want to Be an Artist:
    • It didn't take much effort for Karen to figure out Matt was Daredevil. Her suspicions about the true causes of his injuries caused her to notice a correspondence between Daredevil sightings and Matt's absences and injuries. However, since (like most people) the idea of a blind guy being a vigilante is pretty hard to believe, she tried to think of other rational explanations...until the Hand kidnapped her. When Matt rescued the hostages and checked if she was okay, she knew it was him because she recognized the familiar shape of his jawline. Additionally, it turns out that the head injuries Matt sustains at night slipped into his daily work, with Karen having to go back in and correct his mistakes.
    • While Foggy may never have thought highly of Elektra, he is genuinely sorry when Matt informs him that she died.
    • Matt's sense of smell isn't always perfect. For instance, when Karen shows up at Matt's apartment to rope him into sculpting, she brings along a bottle of tequila to get Matt in the mood, but Matt thinks it's a bottle of whiskey until she uncaps it.
    • The work deconstructs Vanessa Marianna's relationship to Wilson Fisk. Fisk sent her overseas to stash her away before he got caught, but while on her own, she realized that she'd deceived herself thinking Fisk had good intentions. When Vanessa tried to leave Fisk, he threatened her family.
    • The knowledge that so many gifted people have ties to Hogarth, Chao & Benowitz leads Matt to remark to Foggy that he's distrustful of Jeri Hogarth.
  • Love Me, or Leave Me, or Rip Me Apart: In his new job at HC&B, Foggy is scheduled to defend a child psychologist on trial for possession of child pornography, but who is also believed to have molested a number of boys. Thing is, it turns out Matt is one of those this guy molested. The knowledge that Matt was among those infuriates everyone in Foggy's circle and they all give him a piece of their mind: Brett, Karen, and even Marci Stahl give him profanity-laden tirades. Matt does eventually decide to testify, and while the guy walks with a hung jury, Matt's courage gets other victims to speak up (unfortunately, the guy hangs himself in jail before he can stand trial on these new charges).
  • Marci Stahl Is Better Than You:
    • Marci may have escaped disbarment by informing on her colleagues, but her association with Landman & Zack, and Wilson Fisk in turn, means no law firms are interested in hiring her, forcing her to get a job as a contract attorney at Nelson & Murdock as a stopgap until she can find better employment.
    • "Friends" Rent Control doesn't apply. Without her job, Marci has to move to an apartment in Queens since Manhattan's rent prices are beyond what she can afford.
    • Marci oh-so-innocently asks Karen if she's slept with Foggy or Matt. Karen takes offense, while Foggy has to set her straight that not everyone likes to talk openly about their sex lives:
      Foggy Nelson: What did you do to Karen?
      Marci Stahl: I didn’t do anything.
      Foggy Nelson: If by nothing, you mean something to make her hate you.
      Marci Stahl: Fine. Is asking if she slept with you something?
      Foggy Nelson: I don’t often find myself giving advice about appropriate social interaction. It’s novel. In the future, you might not want to ask employees you barely know about their sexual history. Well, not just employees. Pretty much all people.
      Marci Stahl: All boring people. Did you seriously not sleep with her? Because I can’t figure out why else she’d hate me.
      Foggy Nelson: Okay, not sure where to start with this one: One, your concept of female relationships is disturbingly limited. Two, no, we didn’t sleep together. And three, not everyone likes to discuss their sexual conquests the way you do. I’m not saying you’re wrong to like it, just that you’re wrong if you expect random co-workers to like it.
    • After Marci seemingly figures out Matt's secret and tries to confront Foggy about it, Matt decides to pay Marci a visit as Daredevil by sneaking in through her apartment window. She pepper-sprays him in self-defense, and the stench is strong enough that Matt vomits and Marci herself is left gagging. This exchange afterwards:
    Matt Murdock: Did you really not know it was me? Foggy said you figured it out.
    Marci Stahl: [snorts] I’m just going to give you a tip here, Matt: when you climb through a woman’s window in the middle of the night, she kind of assumes that you plan to kill her horribly. She doesn’t stop to think, "oh, which of my acquaintances could this be?"
    Matt Murdock: I thought you would see the suit.
    Marci Stahl: In the dark? No, dumbass. And besides, I was a little preoccupied by my impending death.
  • In For a Penny, which takes place alongside season 1, is a partial AU work based on one viewer who pointed out that Matt and Foggy had to be deeply in debt paying rent for their office space and apartments, utility bills, paying Karen's wages as well as their own, food and other basics, that $3000 worth of half-broken office equipment that Karen got at the auction. It basically goes that while Matt and Karen were off on their own crusades against Fisk, Foggy was busy trying to keep Nelson & Murdock financially afloat.
    • Because Matt attended Columbia on a scholarship, he didn't have to take out student loans, unlike Foggy. By virtue of Matt's disability and his savings from his accident and his father's final match against Creel, he didn't need to take a part-time job, while Foggy had to work for a cleaning company on weekends and sometimes in the evenings to help pay his loans. This ended up being the reason Foggy graduated cum laude and Matt graduated summa cum laude.
    • Foggy's barhopping trip with Karen isn't just because she doesn't want to go home, but because he can't go home either due to police activity at his apartment.
    • Debt catches up to Foggy and he gets an eviction notice from his landlord. Wesley's paycheck for the Healy case is enough for them to finally start paying Karen her salary, and Foggy hopes, enough time for him to find a new apartment. Unfortunately, Fisk bombs Hell's Kitchen just days later and Foggy gets injured, and the resulting hospital bills deplete his bank account. He's forced to pack his things in a storage unit and budget his remaining money to cover the unit, his phone bills, and food.
    • Now evicted, Foggy ends up having to sleep in the office, occasionally staying with Marci Stahl or Elena Cardenas, and eventually with Brett Mahoney after Elena is killed. The reason he shows up in time when Fisk's thugs jump Karen is because he was on his way to stay with Elena.
    • When Foggy finds out about Matt being the Devil of Hell's Kitchen and having heightened senses, he realizes that Matt had to have known when Foggy hadn't showered, or was constantly hungry and tired. Matt admits that he did notice those changes in Foggy's behavior, but attributed them to the stress of their work on Fisk.
    • What ultimately digs Nelson & Murdock out of the hole is a combination of factors: using Hoffman to expose Fisk, Matt deciding to use a significant chunk of his remaining savings towards the firm's accounts, Karen transferring the money from her Union Allied settlement for the same, and Brett's mother as executrix of Elena's estate distributing Elena's money to the firm. While this gets them clients, Matt also agrees to set aside some of his objections and defend some not-so-innocent clients for the sake of financial security.
  • Starting Over From the Middle
    • When Foggy visits Matt's apartment and finds Matt and Karen on the roof talking to Frank Castle, he threatens Frank into leaving by reminding Matt, Karen and the audience that Frank is still a fugitive so Matt and Karen could be in legal trouble for harboring if the police find out:
      Foggy Nelson: You need to leave now.
      Frank Castle: Good to see you again, counselor. You know I don’t blame you for the trial. From what I hear, we both ended up better off.
      Foggy Nelson: [to Matt] I know he’s been babysitting you, but I will not be here while he is. He’s not my client anymore. He is an escaped convict. You have one minute before I call the police.
      Frank Castle: Karen declared me dead. No one’s looking for me.
      Foggy Nelson: Oh really. Because unless Karen’s forging death certificates for the coroner now, the State of New York considers you alive and a fugitive. So leave. Now.
      [Frank grabbed his jacket and the pack of supplies he’d brought over]
      Frank Castle: I was just on my way out. Karen’s got the overnight shift anyway. Don’t play cards with her, though. She cheats.
      Karen Page: Frank—
      Frank Castle: I’ll be in touch. [Matt made to chase after him, but on his way to the door, Foggy planted his hand firmly in his chest. Figuring he’d be able to get in touch with Frank at a later date, and not wanting to imperil his fragile relationship with Foggy, he stopped and addressed the situation in his apartment]
      Matt Murdock: I’m sorry, Foggy. I didn’t know he’d be here.
      Foggy Nelson: Matt, are you trying to be the death of me? You’re out patrolling already, you’re letting the Punisher hang out at your place, and your girlfriend is playing...I don’t know what she’s playing, some trick taking game, against him. For chocolates, apparently. And winning.
      Karen Page: It’s two handed euchre, and yes, I was winning. He’s not, well, I won’t say he’s not dangerous, but he’s not killing anyone—
      Foggy Nelson: Lately.
      Karen Page: Lately, but he wouldn’t hurt any of us.
      Foggy Nelson: That’s not the point! Do you know how much trouble we could all be in, knowing where he is, not turning him in?!
      Matt Murdock: You don’t know where he is anymore! If it makes you feel better, you can call the police and tell them you saw him here.
      Foggy Nelson: Damnit, Murdock, why do you have to be so reasonable and make this so difficult? And put on some damn clothes!
    • Wilson Fisk's use of threats against Melvin's girlfriend is not an idle one. He has an enforcer put her in the hospital when he finds out about Melvin tailoring Daredevil's outfits.
Iron Fist (2017)
  • Poison and Wine: Ward Meachum may have gone cold turkey towards the end of the series, but two months after the events of the show, he quickly has relapsed into his drug use, to the point that Joy has to stage an intervention by hiring him a rehab specialist and the threat of losing his stake in Rand Enterprises over his head to get him to go along.
The Defenders (2017)
  • Soliloquy: This is an AU fic in which Sowande's threats against the heroes' loved ones turn out to not be idle. The Defenders find that putting their loved ones up at the precinct makes them sitting ducks.
    • They are able to determine that they need to attack the precinct by isolating Karen Page's cell phone location. After determining that Colleen Wing is also in the precinct, Bakuto correctly assumes that Claire, Malcolm and Trish are there too.

     Mass Effect 
  • In Renegade Reinterpretations humans do NOT magically Advance Swiftly. As such, when the Batarians come visiting, they get Curb Stomped over and over again and only Zerg Rushing enables them to desperately throw lives for time in the hope of being able to turn the tide someday. After they do so, the cultural scars of the generations-long war means that mankind does not magically become receptive to further alien contact. In fact, Paragon and Renegade are replaced by Xenonationalist (letting aliens live on their own and being willing to compromise, while still not trusting them) and Assimilationist (human dominance).
  • After using a melding to learn English in First Contact, the Asari Captain Wavela still has occasional trouble with the language first because knowing that the words mean doesn't mean she instantly knows how to make the right sounds, then later because she doesn't have the cultural knowledge to understand numerous references most humans would understand.
  • Mas Effect: Synthesis:
    • Even though they're being offered five planets to settle on, there's still resistance among the Quarians over achieving synthesis with synthetic lifeforms. The Admirality largely accepts because, after three hundred years, their fleet is irreparable and they have at best years left before their ships fail.
    • Because humanity has not officially arrived on the galactic scene, there are no Translator Microbes for any human language. While talking with Sparatus about humanity's war against the Batarians, James Vega is stuck with broken Batarian and at one point admits he can't answer a question because he doesn't know the words.
  • In The Fourth Council Race, humanity doesn't unite simply because they become an interstellar race. Several countries, particularly more powerful ones such as China and the United States of America, continue to play political games even after they come into conflict with the turians note .

     Mega Man 
  • Mega Man: Defender of the Human Race, like the cartoon it's based off of, takes its source material with a fair bit of seriousness.
    • After the first time Wily attacks and starts making world domination schemes, the government immediately sends armed troops to take him out. They only fail due to his fortress defenses. They also don't sit back and let Mega Man do all their fighting, with two major events kicked off by their attempts at self-defense and trying to trap Wily.
    • All the fighting Mega Man does wreaks havoc on his armor and damages his internal systems, a problem touched upon a few times in the cartoon. He is seen undergoing repair work from his battles frequently and suffers from internal injuries and damaged parts mid-fight at times.
    • Once Vick-Tek is revealed to have accidentally funded the world's most dangerous terrorist, the company's stock bottoms out the next day as nobody would support them after making a blunder that big. Similarly, Marcus Vicker's Corrupt Corporate Executive behavior gets him exiled by his own board when it becomes clear he's no longer fit to run the company.
    • Offscreen Villain Dark Matter doesn't exist. Wily's need for funds and materials drive several episodes and even the Conduit begins to bleed dry after Mega Man's repeated victories over them.
    • Proto Man is Reformed, but Rejected by the public as they're understandably wary after he faked it the first time.

  • In Rain on the Just, a retired Metro Man has to face the unpleasant consequences of faking his own death - namely, he has no money, no means of income, no friends, and he can't use his fame anymore to get stuff for free.

     Miraculous Ladybug 
  • The Short-Legged Vixen starts with an alternate take to the episode "Volpina", resulting in this trope multiple times:
    • Ladybug has no idea who Lila is or why she's talking to Adrien when she drops down at the park... And still exposes her lies by simply having no idea who her supposed best friend is, before telling Alya about it.
    • It continues with the next chapter: as her lies were (accidentally) exposed to the whole school, Lila has become a social pariah that nobody trusts... Meaning that when she resists Akumatization without witnesses nobody will believe her if she tells.
    • Right after resisting Akumatization, Lila discovers that Ladybug and Chat Noir have been following her around because, after so many Akumatizations caused by people having an emotional trauma, they expected her to be next.
    • Lila is having trouble with Alya and Chloe's last names, as they resemble Italian words (she initially takes Alya's last name as "Cesare" after the Italian name of Julius Caesar and later mispronounces it as "Cesayre", and confuses Chloe's last name with its direct Italian equivalent). At the same time the French characters consistently put the accent of her name on the second syllable instead than the first (something that actually happens in the Italian dub), and she's actually surprised when Chloe (who lives in Paris' best hotel and is familiar with foreign visitors) pronounces it right.
    • After a week of being treated like a pariah, Lila is approached by a Stalker with a Crush, who expects her to go out with him out of gratitude. She instead blows up at him, and when his phone is discovered to include a picture of her in the bathroom he's in even hotter waters with her... And the school administration, as Ladybug wasted no time in snatching it and bringing it to the principal.
  • In Verisimilitude, Alya is hit with this trope after posting her interview with Lila. Her viewers tear apart Lila's lies and criticize Alya for posting the video without verifying, leading to the Ladyblog's reputation taking a hit.
  • In Fox Rain, different circumstances lead to Lila becoming the heroic wielder of the Fox Miraculous rather than a villain... But she's still the person that could have become that:
    • When she meets Ladybug as a superhero, Ladybug expects them to be allies, but Lila is still holding a grudge because of something she did, and maintains Ladybug knows exactly what she did even if she denies it. She also holds a grudge against Chat Noir for leaving her on top of the Eiffel Tower.
    • The reason for Lila's grudge against Ladybug is something really offensive to Italians (though she doesn't explain what). Lila knows a Frenchwoman is unlikely to know and mean that deliberately... But is also convinced Ladybug is Italian or has an Italian parent, and thus should know, due to the hammy mannerism she picked up from her Italian grandmother. A mannerism that had led to the same misunderstanding multiple times in the past in Marinette's life and, combined with her knowledge of Italian slang, makes Lila guess Marinette has Italian relatives.
    • It turns out that what Lila said on the first day was not intended to be taken seriously but as jokes or, in case of the Jagged Stone lie, a wild sarcastic claim that should have explained she didn't believe what Chloe was telling her, and only ended up being believed due her classmates having stumbled on far crazier stuff. This is also the origin of Lila's canonical Surrounded by Idiots attitude, at least until she finds out of crazy things in Paris are.
      • Being the daughter of the mayor of Paris, who happens to be a millionaire businessman, and Adrien's childhood friend, Chloe is used to verify wild claims, and checked with Jagged Stone if he actually knew Lila.
    • During her first public appearance as the superhero Vorpika, Lila used an illusion that was an in-joke between her and prince Ali, who happens to be an old friend of hers. He realizes her secret identity in seconds.
    • While she's oblivious to why, Chloe has noticed Akumatizations tend to happen around her and she's usually the target, and reacts badly when an unknown part does something that could lead to Lila being reakumatized. But due to her own experiences with her, Marinette is baffled when she sees her trying to prevent an Akumatization.
    • Due how often she gets involved with Akumatizations, Ladybug and Chat Noir gave Chloe their numbers so she can warn them. Chat Noir also mentions a few other people have them, including the mayor, what is implied to be the Bourgeois' butler, the Agrestes' chauffeur, and Marinette... And haven't abused them yet.
    • While they're old and very close friends, prince Ali still has duties to his country, and when Natalie covertly informs his chaperon (and thus his father) about what really happened with Volpina he's nearly forced to break it off, at least until it's realized it was Papillon's manipulations.
    • While Lila is more heroic, her first reaction upon realizing Papillon tried to manipulate into villainy is to plot his destruction in cold anger, at least until prince Ali and Ladybug snap her out of it. And while she has no problem with prince Ali's actions due to him being an old friend, her prejudices toward Ladybug mean she doesn't understand why she helped rather than using her anger to manipulate her into being a better ally.
  • In Supervillain Backstabber, Lila decides to go after Hawk Moth after being targeted by one of his Akuma Villains. She manages to figure out where Hawk Moth’s base is. For her plan she manages to steal the Bee miraculous as it was given to Chloe using a disguise she discarded not long after. She has Pollen tell her of the powers and attacks of the Miraculous. After two weeks of training she goes after Hawk Moth in his base........ And is severely outclassed. Hawk Moth had much longer to master the abilities and skills of his Miraculous, plus the fact that he was able to take on ladybug and Chat Noir at the same time on Heroes Day. That’s not taking into the account the missiles he has to deal with intruders. The only reason why Hawk Moth did not manage to take the Bee Miraculous for himself was that the sound of the missiles attracted Ladybug and Chat Noir to his lair who ended up defeating him themselves.
  • The AU comic Scarlet Lady has done this a few times:
    • When she attacks the park, Aurore (akumatized into Stormy Weather) notices that the balloon vendor in the park is only selling Mireille balloons. She becomes suspicious, since the weather girl contest just ended and there should still be balloons representing both girls. So she interrogates the vendor, who reveals that he was only told to make Mireille balloons, meaning that the contest was rigged against Aurore from the start. Later, Mireille posts this revelation on her social media accounts, leading to serious backlash against Alec (who was running the contest) and the studio as a whole.
    • In order to akumatize Nino before he managed to calm himself down, Gabriel/Hawk Moth had to run all the way from the mansion's main stairway to his secret lair. As a result, he's out of breath, something that Nino notices when he's being given the whole "I'll give you power in exchange for the Miraculouses" speech.
    • Adrien runs himself ragged as Chat Noir (even more so than in canon, since his "partner" refuses to be of any help), which ends up taking its toll on him physically. His fencing instructor notices he's gotten "sloppy" and decides to resolve it with some one-on-one practice.
    • After backhanding one of his concrete sculpts, Theo is nursing an aching hand when Hawk Moth contacts him.
  • LadyBugOut offers up several examples:
    • Alya's decision to post a photo of Ladybug and Chat Noir Kissing Under the Influence of Oblivio against Ladybug's express wishes and deliberately omitting the context causes her blog's reputation to take a severe nosedive after Ladybug starts her own blog and reveals the truth. Despite her insistence to the contrary, she's seen as a Paparazzi rather than an Intrepid Reporter, with the Ladyblog becoming seen as a trashy tabloid valuing traffic over truth.
    • Living a Double Life does not magically absolve anyone of the consequences of their actions. By betraying Ladybug's trust, Alya loses the right to bear the Fox. Nino and Chloe also lose their status as temporary heroes. Adrien's tendency to treat Chat Noir as an excuse to act 'freely' and recklessly ultimately ends up catching up to him, contributing to him losing the right to be the Black Cat.
    • Lila's deceptions unravel once Ivan notices and points out a glaring inconsistency and she attempts to cover for that by throwing others under the bus... including her own friends. This blatant backstabbing doesn't go over well with anyone, and she loses all of her influence, getting labeled 'Liar Rossi' and summarily dismissed by those she previously tricked.
  • In Leave For Mendeleiev, Chloe finds herself running headlong into reality checks as she continues to pursue Marinette. Having consistently gotten away with bullying her in Miss Bustier's class due to their teacher expecting the 'good' kids to 'lead by example', she's at a loss when it comes to dealing with a Stern Teacher who's more than happy to assert her authority and lay down the law.
    • At the same time, while Marinette is much happier in Mendeleiev's classroom, the damage done by years of harassment doesn't just magically go away. When Chloe does manage to get at her, Marinette freezes, struggling against her old instincts and to stand up against somebody who terrorized her for so long. Nor did Chloe forget what her weaknesses are, and she's still able to get under her skin.
    • In keeping with his usual non-confrontational persona, Adrien advises Aurore not to get involved when they see that Chloe's cornered Marinette. Why? Because Chloe's not used to being challenged, and he's afraid that she'll be akumatized if she doesn't get her way. Whereas Marinette will supposedly be 'fine' because she's used to it. This earns him a Death Glare, killing Aurore's crush on him for good, and when Marinette learns about his attitude, she attempts to explain to him that she could have been akumatized instead.
    • Chloe's butler is also struck hard by this in Chapter 14, when Chloe responds to his attempt to try and soothe tensions between her and Amber by firing him on the spot. He sincerely believed that his status as her Parental Substitute meant something to her... but from her point of view, he was just the hired help, and easily replaceable.
    • Adrien sees Ladybug's Miraculous Cure as a magical 'get out of consequences free' Reset Button. After all, if all of the damage the akuma do gets washed away and instantly repaired afterwards, what does it matter if he makes a few mistakes during battle? Sure, Ladybug gets annoyed by him not taking things too seriously, but he still expects her to carry the day and ensure everything's fixed... while failing to recognize how badly he's damaging his relationship with her. And ultimately, he's caught completely flat-footed when something happens that Miraculous Cure doesn't instantly fix: him losing the Black Cat ring in a moment of carelessness.
  • Chaotic Neutral's Salt Series has 3 chapters that all delve into 3 possible scenarios for this trope to ensue with Lila's lies.
    • Chapter 1 centers on Nino who discovers that trusting Lila to put him in contact with a director so he can show said director the film he was making for a contest instead of finishing the film for the contest or submitting a copy of the finished product means he missed out on a legitimate chance to get his work recognized focusing on one that didn't exist.
      • Adrien also gets bitten by this trope when Nino, understandably, reacts badly to finding out his best friend knew Lila was a liar and said nothing, completely cutting Adrien out of his life (Alya is also pissed at Adrien for this). Conversely, Marinette proves herself both by not saying "I told you so" and by entering Nino's unfinished project to the contest for him, netting him favorable comments and an honorable mention.
    • Alya's lack of fact-checking, borderline illegal antics in "Lady Wifi", general disregard for privacy and ethics and relentless pursuit of Ladybug's real identity get the Ladyblog labeled as a tabloid by one of her idols. And posting her interview with Lila, which was full of holes that even a cursory examination would have uncovered, was the final nail in the coffin.
    • Lila's mother is not remotely happy to find out that her daughter has been lying to her for months and waves Lila's diplomatic immunity so she can be punished for truancy. Then when Lila attacks her mother, she's charged with assault since she did this in front of multiple witnesses, causing Lila's whole life to fall apart.
      • And despite all of the above, Lila's Compulsive Liar tendencies remain in full effect and when they fail, she sees her mother's actions as a betrayal because she's completely self-centered.
  • Burning Bridges, Building Confidence has this in spades when Alya attacks Marinette and Cole in class:
    • While Cole has been handling all of Lila and her followers' bullying with considerable patience up to this point, having her face raked by Alya's deliberately sharpened nails and several of the stitches near her eye socket burst open proves to be a bit too much for her to shoulder. Her grandfather has to take her out of the meeting and help her through a panic attack. She's also notably subdued afterwards, especially as Lila's followers amp up their torment by flinging slurs and accusations her way.
    • The damage dealt by the attack also sets back her recovery by several weeks, meaning that she's left waiting even longer before she can get a glass eye to replace the one she'd lost long before this assault.
    • Ms. Bustier blames Cole for the incident, choosing to comfort Alya instead and only getting her medical attention while ignoring Cole's injuries. When questioned about this, she declares that she was more concerned with treating the victim. Damocles responds to this flagrant favoritism by immediately putting her on leave, pending a serious review of how she's been conducting her class.
    • Alya faces severe punishment for her actions. Her parents are especially furious, reinforcing their grounding of her by forcibly putting her Ladyblog on hiatus... which includes them taking control of the blog and posting an explanation on it of how it's been suspended until further notice, and why.
    • Cole's mother is, quite understandably, extremely furious about this situation and very shortly afterwards Collège Françoise Dupont is getting a lawsuit because she was able to get the law to recognize Ayla's attack as an ableist hate crime. The result: Ms. Bustier is facing the possibility of being fired and Lila's goons are in extremely hot water.
  • The One To Make It Stay points out how Alya's Zany Schemes to help Marinette and Adrien get together ultimately do more harm than good. Though she means well, Alya operates under the presumption that Marinette needs to be pushed past her shyness, and thusly ignores all of her friend's protests as she shoves her into one awkward situation after another. Unsurprisingly, being thrown in headfirst doesn't do any favors for her nerves, especially when each failed attempt creates more memories of embarrassing herself around him. What's worse, Alya's refusal to listen ultimately causes a rift in their friendship, as Marinette grows tired of having to deal with her bossiness and unflattering assumptions.

     The Most Popular Girls In School 

     My Hero Academia 
  • Conversations with a Cryptid:
    • Recovery Girl having a powerful healing quirk doesn't excuse her to practice without a medical license or not following the medical hierarchy. The Japanese Medical Association assists in Inko's lawsuit against Yuuei when they find out the scope of Recovery Girl's unintentional abuse of power. The Japanese Medical Association promise to enforce medical laws more fiercely to avoid such abuse of power by the hero industry.
    • When Izuku injured himself during his fight with Todoroki during the Sports Festival, someone in the audience did call an ambulance.
    • Just because Yuuei is a top hero school doesn't mean they're allowed to make themselves their students' sole source of medical treatment or make medical decisions on their students' behalf without parental permission. When Yuuei refused to send their students to actual hospitals to medical treatment, many medical professionals noticed and students outright died due to this policy. When one student died, their mother attempted to sue the school. Inko successfully sues Yuuei in a class-action lawsuit because they gave Izuku surgery without even asking her, his mother and legal guardian. Unfortunately for Yuuei, that woman combined forces with Inko and Japanese Medical Association to make the lawsuit very public and cause media outcry.
    • Criminal organizations like the League of Villains cost money to run. Part of the investigation is where All for One gets his money from and what companies launder his money.
    • One of the main reasons Deku can't just run to the cops about how his dad is a mass murdering supervillain is that it getting out would ruin his mother's life despite her complete ignorance to the whole thing. On a related note, All Might and Tsukauchi can't get him because All for One in a legal sense didn't kidnap Deku or hold him against his will. As far as the law is concerned, Hisashi Midoriya decided to rejoin his son's life after he nearly died and help him recover from a major surgery. And aside from talking about his double life and nearly killing people who've wronged his family, All for One treats Deku like any loving father would treat his son.
    • A lot of the kids are traumatized from the USJ and the Training Camp attack and Toshinori has to convince the faculty to hire actual mental health professionals.
  • If I Only Had A Heart
    • The costs of treating a young boy who lost an arm and an eye of top of having a damaged spine after being put into a medically induced coma are astronomical, forcing the Midoriyas to find cheaper housing.
    • Izuku finds himself begging Aizawa, who happens to be his new neighbor, for hand-to-hand combat training. Izuku struggles with this due to his lack of depth perception caused by missing eye, his weak footing due to his injured spine, and the stiffness of his own movements due to his prosthetic arm.
    • While the adults are in awe after Izuku shows off his new and improved prosthetic arm that's directly linked to his nerves through a spinal implant, they are understandably horrified at the prospect that a kid who hasn't even left elementary school is performing medical experiments on himself without any sort of oversight.
    • Even if your friend is an incredible super-genius, it's still terrifying to help him effectively perform surgery on himself while fearing the worst.
    • No matter how many times you test something, there's always the chance that something will go wrong. Like when Izuku has a seizure after installing his new spinal reinforcements and eye.
    • Aside from the villain attack that left him handicapped, Izuku just hasn't been exposed to danger that isn't self-inflicted. So when he chases down a monster (implied to be a Noumu) that's following Eraserhead, Izuku loses his composure when he comes face to face with it and ends up killing it by setting it ablaze with the Equalizer.
  • In Dark Light, Quirks changed the world in a lot of ways. Because of how incredibly common superpowers were, most sports and sporting events (including the Olympics) became defunct with the only surviving ones being either sports that drew a lot of betting (such as horse races and boxing) or ones that could be adapted for quirks.
    • Twice someone comes across a fight and misinterprets what's going on due to the appearance of the combatants. First, Izuku accidentally saves Toga from one of her victims due to her being a schoolgirl and her victim being an obvious delinquent. Later, Mei sees a man with sharp teeth and another covered in darkness fighting and tazes the latter, not realizing it's Izuku fighting a serial killer.
  • In The Vigilante Boss And His Failed Retirement Plan when Bakugou is transferred to another middle school that less permissive than Orudera, a lot of his behavior is seen as alarming than heroic. Bakugou's habit of treating his classmates like extras and cannon fodder is treated as delusional behavior. The teachers have no tolerance for his bad language, poor anger management and lack of cooperation with his classmates. Bakugou's classmates are less than impressed with his personality, feeling that he's more likely to threaten them than save them.
    • During the initiation exam, the faculty is initially impressed with Bakugou's high score until it's pointed out that he doesn't have a single rescue point. Every other top scorer always has at least some whether intentionally or accidentally, so for someone to get over 70 points without once helping their fellow examees is a huge red flag.
    • A big part of Yuuei and the reason why they have different Departments is networking, which is important for any industry. Bakugou more or less shoots himself in the foot as word of his Jerkass behavior spreads to the rest of the school. The Support Department gives him their worst service when they got word of how he badmouthed the support equipment they made for him. The Management Department steer clear of him due to his negative image and reputation makes him difficult to sell to the public. Bakugou unwittingly is sabotaging his own career prospects, something he fails to realize until it's pointed out to him because he disregards everyone as extras.
  • In canon, Bakugou injuring Izuku is never treated seriously but Dig Your Heels In points that it takes one wrong move for Bakugou to accidentally maim Izuku. The fact Bakugou didn't kill Izuku is because Izuku managed to move away on time so his shoulder and ear were hit instead the major veins of his neck. After that Bakugou is seen as a villain-in-the-making since he crossed the line by seriously injuring Izuku with his quirk by Inko, the media and his middle school. Which turns Bakugou from the popular kid to a dangerous social pariah.
  • In Leviathan (My Hero Academia), Bakugou tries to drown Izuku during a class exercise. Even though Izuku was fine (due to growing gills), he still has to talk his mother down from suing the school for criminal negligence. Afterwards, the only reason Bakugou wasn't expelled was due to Izuku speaking up on his behalf. Even so, he's facing a month's suspension, mandatory anger management classes, and a transfer to a different class. The last is due to the fact the entirety of 1-A hates and/or fears Bakugou after witnessing him try to kill a classmate.
  • Crimson And Emerald:
    • Correlation doesn't equal causation. It's revealed the double-jointed toe equaling Quirklessness is an old wives' tale that people happened to believe a lot in. Quirklessness like real life genetic factors has a lot of complicated factors going into it.
    • If Quirklessness is treated like a disability, then it should have been verified by at least three doctors like actual disabilities are.
    • Had Yuuei known that Bakugou suicide-baited Izuku, Bakugou would have been put on probation at best or outright rejected. Suicide-baiting someone is not acceptable behavior.
    • Connections and reputation matter in order to succeed. Bakugou realizes this the hard way when his past as a bully costs him a prestigious internship.
    • Tenya and Izuku drift apart from Ochako due to the Stain Incident intensifying the boys’ friendship and having no time for her due to their internships.
    • Despite Yuuei treating the Sports Festival as Serious Business for their students to get noticed in the industry, in the long term no one truly cares about the Sports Festival. The media cares more about current events so Bakugou is quickly shoved out of the spotlight in favor of the Hosu Quartet. Who helped captured Stain and are the interns of new number Two hero Hawks.
    • Inko, Hawks, and All Might strong arm Endeavor into signing custody of his son Shouto over to them, or else they will go public with his abusive behavior. When Endeavor tries to protest, they point out that a). they have years' worth of actual evidence, b). that All Might's status as the Symbol of Peace, combined with Hawks' as the current Number Two Hero, give their word plenty of weight, and c). that Endeavor is so unpopular due to his recklessness and bad attitude that it wouldn't be hard to convince anyone that he's a domestic abuser, especially since it's public knowledge that he doesn't get along with his children, his wife is in a mental hospital, and his eldest son is dead. He's not, but everyone thinks he is. When Endeavor points out that revealing his actions would collapse the entire hero system, Inko coldly replies that she doesn't care, as it was that very same system that allowed Endeavor to get way with his terrible behavior for years.
    • Just because Enji had to two separate women as best friends doesn’t mean he doesn’t hold misogynistic beliefs. Which reared its ugly head when he fully expected them to support him despite their objections over his abuse of his wife.
    • The Heroics Commission may be powerful but even they have to answer to the Japanese Government. Once the Japanese Government is made aware of the Commission's corruption, many of them are fired and facing criminal charges.
  • In Young Midoriya Izuku catches All Might's attention at 12 by standing up to Bakugo for another kid, leading to multiple instances:
    • All Might is not thrilled with Bakugo's behavior at all, and pulls many strings to keep him away from Izuku. Bakugo tries to bully him anyway... And All Might's collaborators flat-out threaten him with arrest for illegal Quirk usage.
    • All Might decides to have Izuku inherit One For All and train him under his Toshinori Yagi persona... But first has to invent a scholarship, as Inko wouldn't trust a random stranger without a reason, even if she met him because he kept bullies from Izuku.
      • Given that the different circumstances allow him to use his resources more, All Might does just that and calls upon various people to give him lessons in combat and Hero ethics, and has Nezu and Gran Torino help.
    • Izuku was severely traumatized by Bakugo's bullying, and needs therapy. After many therapy sessions his admiration for Bakugo completely disappears.
    • Izuku inherits One for All about a year before enrolling at U.A., and after years of training. He injures himself less upon first use of his new Quirk, Gran Torino's presence allows him to figure out Full Cowl much faster, and by the entrance exam he can use it up to 8% continuously.
      • Because the above-mentioned training, that included not only exercise but a better diet and rest schedule, Izuku is not only fitter but taller: turns out the stress of dealing with Bakugo and the poor sleep he had been getting were stunting his growth...
    • Mineta was switched to class 1-B, thus he didn't get Aizawa as his homeroom teacher and attended the entrance ceremony... During which his antics earned him sixteen complaints for sexual harassment, and a swift expulsion from his appalled homeroom teacher Vlad.
    • Nezu puts Izuku and Bakugo in the same class (against Toshinori's wishes) in the hope that being forced to be around each other would help them get over their issues. Unfortunately, this could only work if both parties are willing to put in the effort - while Izuku gains a massive boost in confidence and even manages to make friends, Bakugo is still the same arrogant asshole from middle school. Even after losing to Izuku in the Sports Festival, it's clear he's learned nothing. So after yet another incident with Bakugo antagonizing Izuku, Nezu issues an ultimatum: get counseling for his anger issues, or be expelled.
    • Nezu confesses to Toshinori that the reason U.A. has put up with Bakugo's attitude for so long is because he's too powerful to be allowed to become a villain, and that expelling him outright could push him down that path. That said, the staff is only willing to be so lenient, and outright assaulting another student is something that will NOT be tolerated.
  • In Total Command, Izuku's Quirk allows him to grow taller, tougher, and stronger at a superhuman rate but the amount of food he has to eat to do so cuts deeply into his mother's savings. After half a year, Inko notes she'll have to find a better paying job and start paying more attention to sales if she wants to keep them out of the red.
  • When asked in A Parable of Talents who the best fighter in class is, Kirishima first asks if Izuku means who's the most skilled or who would win a fight. He then explains to the confused boy that it doesn't matter if you're a master martial artist if the other guy has a foot and a hundred pounds of muscle on you, citing that professional fighting has weight classes for that exact reason.
    • While sparring with Izuku, Mina quickly notes that his Wouldn't Hit a Girl attitude is sweet but extremely foolish for a hero, especially with how easily flustered he is by women. Any villainess who realizes such a weakness could easily turn on the charm until he's too flustered to react when they go for a killing blow.
  • Yesterday Upon The Stair:
    • Just because Todoroki has reconnected with his mother and made friends, doesn't mean Endeavor is any less physically or verbally abusive.
    • Izuku may not object to the way Bakugou treats him, but this does not make it okay. When some adults figure out how toxic it is, they are horrified. This in turn makes Bakugou look even less like a hero because treating people who can't/won't fight back the way he treats Izuku is generally a mark of a villain, or at least, someone like Endeavor.
    • Expanding on this, Aizawa notes that everyone, even the nicest person in the world, has a limit, and Midoriya will only take so much crap from him before abandoning him completely. Seeing as Midoriya is one of the nicer members of the human race in general, Bakugou continuing to treat everyone as beneath him could very well get him killed, as his "allies" decide they aren't going to help him. Again, Aizawa explicitly points this out.
    • Mineta's perverted actions are not heroic traits; instead they are borderline sexual harassment. And while he may have the grades and skills to be a hero, he doesn't have the mindset. This catches up to him when he's caught trying to peep at the training camp. Despite Kouta being hurt due to his actions, Mineta shows no remorse – and when Aizawa overhears him muttering darkly, blaming the kid for his getting caught, he decides that he's given him enough leeway and expels him. In addition, the rest of 1-A isn't particularly broken up about this, with the discomfort he caused still lingering after his expulsion.
    • Even though Todoroki was sabotaged during the Provisional License Exam, he still technically failed because the proctors don't have accurate test results for him, requiring Todoroki retake the exam in April.
    • Overhaul claiming Eri is his daughter doesn't change Midoriya's attitude towards getting her away from him, and he later points out to Mirio that what Overhaul did is a rather common excuse for villains regarding hostages. Nighteye further points out that even if Eri were indeed his daughter, her battered state would leave Overhaul little wiggle room in getting her back legally.
    • According to Doctor Tsubasa, the random nature of Quirks means some people go their whole lives without ever discovering what theirs is because it's either too subtle or requires some specific circumstance to activate.
  • My Hero Playthrough: Like in Yesterday Upon The Stair, some Quirks are unusual enough to go unactivated for years, such as a hero who's empowered by eating apples but his father was allergic to them, causing his Quirk to go undiscovered until he was sixteen. Similarly, Midnight didn't discover her Quirk until she was a teenager because it was triggered by lust, something she wouldn't have felt when she was four.
  • Despite Izuku's best efforts in Hammerverse, Inko quickly notices his unusual behavior and learns he has a Gender Bender Quirk. While Izuku has a near genius level intellect, he's still a five year old trying to hide something from his attentive mother.
  • In The Emancipators: after Katsuki scars one of his classmates during a training exercise, Aizawa lectures him in front of the whole class and gives him detention and lessons on why assault is unacceptable, making clear that his behavior will not be tolerated. He also makes a point of monitoring him more closely.
  • Coyote
    • Izuku points out how impractical Midnight's outfit is, noting how high heels and tearaway cloth make for a horrible hero costume. He also notes that using air pumped nozzles would not only address the stated reason for why her costume is designed the way it is but would also improve her Quirk's efficiency.
      • Riley also chimes that continuing to use her current costume won't help her maintain her looks, which are a big part of her hero image.
    • Aizawa's handling of the Quirk assessment test runs into several realistic outcomes that he didn't encounter in canon:
      • Aizawa's threat to expel the worst performing student ultimately leads to the entire class dropping out because none of them want to risk their futures on the whims of a petty Jerkass who kicked out an entire class for not meeting his standards, which they had been warned of ahead of time. They may be striving to be heroes but you are not going to entrust achieving your goal to someone who acts like that, especially after they prove a warning you received about them right.
      • Aizawa revealing that Izuku actually passed the test and claiming the expulsion threat was a ruse isn't seen as a sign of triumph like in canon. Riley is infuriated that Izuku was basically led into maiming himself for no reason by a teacher. The claim about the ruse also helps the class decide to leave because it served as validation for an earlier warning.
      • Aizawa's expelling an entire class from a few years ago and his threat that he can do so with the current one isn't seen as The Spartan Way like in canon. The rest of the faculty are incensed, noting that parents, alumni, sponsors, and even the Ministry of Education are going to tear strips out of the school for an entire class being expelled on the first day.
      • When Aizawa tries justifying his harshness towards Izuku by pointing out the boy's lack of control over his Quirk, All Might angrily fires back that Aizawa knew that Izuku lacked that kind of control and it's Aizawa's job to teach him how to gain it, not punish him for what he hasn't learned yet.
      • Nedzu notes that the entire class dropping out wasn't out of solidarity (except for Riley and Uraraka, who did it out of personal loyalty to Izuku) but because all of them were warned ahead of time how strict Aizawa could be and how likely he was to expel them if they didn't meet his criteria. There aren't going to be close bonds between a bunch of people who had only just met in the morning for the first time.
      • Izuku and Riley are incredibly cynical and mistrusting towards teachers because of how many have actively worked against them in reaching their goals, to the point they had to become Properly Paranoid in order to even make it to U.A. They're naturally suspicious and wary once they actually make it into the school and look into who their prospective teachers will be, discovering Aizawa may prove to be a problem. They were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt right up to the point where he legitimized their worries.
      • The results of Aizawa expelling an entire class are shown. Half of them went to seek schooling at other hero schools while badmouthing the school to the press over it. The other half either wound up not finishing their education and scraping by on minimum wage, dropping out completely and becoming villains, or committing suicide. Getting expelled from such a prestigious school is not just a matter of "you aren't cutting it here": either other rival schools will seek to get their hands on such talent or no other school will touch them because of who did the booting out. One commenter mentions that in a highly competitive society like Japan, being expelled from a school can lead someone to be Driven to Suicide.
      • It gets pointed out that Aizawa's teaching methods are very much Awesome, but Impractical, showing that while the students that do pass go on to become incredible heroes it's often at the cost of nearly twice as many being kicked out because they don't meet Aizawa's standards. Nedzu also raises the issue that part of why Aizawa is so lauded as a teacher is that he tends to get students that qualify as prodigies who he doesn't have to invest much effort in actually teaching while dismissing anyone of lesser talent.
      • It's pointed out that in addition to all the other flaws he has, he constantly sleeps in class and looks slovenly in the extreme.
    • When Momo talks about her Quirk to the class, Izuku points out that it can't work the way that she thinks it does, turning body fat into different forms and materials, because with the mass of the objects in the Apprehension test alone (at least 100 kilos), she'd have killed herself from losing all that body mass at once. Izuku instead proposes that the body fat is just metabolized as part of whatever process produces the materials from where they're actually coming from.
    • In a world where Everyone is a Super, Japanese culture has been forced to become at least somewhat more accepting of counseling than in our world instead of viewing it as "shameful" because a significant amount of Quirks can run amok under the influence of unstable emotions.
    • With how much people are conditioned from childhood in civilized countries against hurting each other, combined with the prevalence of potentially lethal superpowers, it's not uncommon, especially among new or upcoming Heroes, for people to mentally limit their abilities out of fear of hurting others like Riley does. His canine features also didn't help.
  • The Gatekeeper
    • In canon, Aizawa's extremely harsh methods are meant to weed out those with no talent for being heroes before they get themselves or others killed. It's an understandable, if harsh, motive, but it's ultimately lost on everyone in Aizawa's class, who is at least reasonably confident in their potential, and thus end up bitter toward Aizawa for crushing their dreams.
    • Being kicked out on one's first day can be a somewhat traumatizing experience, with the former U.A. students being forced to transfer into new schools. As a result, more than a few parents called U.A. to complain about Aizawa and ask to overturn the expulsions, even knowing that the school wouldn't do it.
    • Having an expulsion on one's record can be detrimental to one's future. A number of people who got expelled blame Aizawa for hindering their attempts to get into college or find employment as heroes.
    • As a result of the above, Aizawa is highly divisive. While he does have his defenders, including at least one student who got expelled, not only are there a number of people who resent him for his willingness to expel students at the drop of a hat, but there are also some people who managed to get through and don't think he's all that good of a teacher.
    • Not helping matters is how Vlad King is apparently less strict with his students, with one student noting that Vlad passed someone who was roughly equal to one of the students Aizawa expelled. As such, some people believe that getting through U.A. is a matter of getting the right teacher.
    • While U.A. allows its faculty a great deal of leeway in how to teach, Nezu finally decides enough is enough, since he recognizes that Aizawa's policy is causing problems even if he can't overturn all the expulsions. Nezu decides to only allow Aizawa to expel the one student who gets last place on the Quirk Apprehension Test- any others will require the principal's approval.
  • The Emerald Phoenix:
    • After both Bakugo and Todoroki unleash massive, uncontrolled attacks during the heroes vs villains exercise, All-Might explains that such attacks are a terrible idea indoors for both heroes and villains. Besides the greater risk of injuriing yourself or your allies, villains run the risk of destroying their own stronghold while heroes get faced with massive property damage they're obligated to pay for.
      • Bakugo and Todoroki are both on thin ice for using such attacks against classmates. Todoroki gets off relatively lightly because he's obviously horrifed at his loss of control but is still required to write a three page essay on what he did wrong.
    • Todoroki proves to be over-confident in his own ability and assumes his overwhelming power will earn him an easy win in the heroes vs villains exercise. He quickly loses because he disregarded that both his opponents have Quirks best used for support and deception. While he broke free of Sero's and Camie's trap, All-Might remarks that against real villains, he'd have likely gotten his throat slit the moment he was captured.
  • Heroes Never Die:
    • Izuku's own Quirk causes him to revive at a predetermined point whenever he dies. While it does give Izuku infinite attempts to get things just right, he also has to be careful not to give out information he shouldn't have. Also, because Izuku doesn't know what point he'll revive at beforehand, he can be tripped up if he revives later than expected, such as when he kills himself early in the villain attack on the USJ, only to revive only a few minutes before he died.
    • Izuku's Quirk has given him serious psychological issues both from being unable to prove it's real, even to himself, and from being forced to repeat a loop too many times. It's made worse by the fact he can't get professional help since not only would he sound crazy, but the level of danger needed for a hero/hero-in-training to have their psychological history released is considerably lower than it is for normal civilians, meaning speaking to a therapist would tank his career.
    • During the attack on the USJ, Tsuyu suggests Izuku used the boat's anchor as a ranged weapon against the villains to knock them out. Izuku tells her that getting hit with that much mass would be fatal for the villains.
    • Despite Aizawa's threat, he doesn't have the power to expel students on a whim, especially after they've already paid tuition. Instead, Mineta was moved to the General Studies course.
  • Cursed Blood
    • In the first chapter, Izuku tries to act as a Bullet Proof Human Shield, only for the bullets to go right through him and into the girl he was protecting.
    • During the Entrance Exam, Izuku gets sent flying when he's hit by the Zero Pointer. Ochako successfully stops him by using her Quirk, but the sudden deceleration snaps Izuku's neck. Fortunately, Izuku has a Healing Factor and is fine seconds later, though he does mention how much fixing his neck hurts.
    • The Entrance Exams initially seem to only cater towards highly destructive Quirks, but Izuku discovers that each of the robots has an off switch on their back for those without the raw power to simply destroy them. He still remarks that there should be some fake civilians to simulate Search and Rescue operations for those with little combat ability.
    • Aizawa makes clear to Bakugo that regardless of whether Izuku can regenerate, attacking a fellow student or staff member outside of training is grounds for immediate expulsion.
    • Izuku's Healing Factor burns a lot of energy so healing too much gives him significant hunger pains, forcing him and Inko to develop a high calorie, high protein candy he can quickly eat to restore his energy.
    • Aldera Middle School being willing to overlook Bakugo's bullying due to his powerful and flashy Quirk isn't an isolated incident. With the rise of Quirks came a new form of discrmination called Quirkism where people are discriminated against for having weak, monstrous, or "dark" Quirks. It's apparently prevalent enough for Beru Asui's lawfirm to specialize in Quirkism related cases.
    • Aldera's habit of ignoring misbehavior by students with powerful Quirks results in some of said students Jumping Off the Slippery Slope in the belief they can do anything they want. One such student was expelled from Shiketsu and arrested for trying to rape a classmate.
    • After being humiliated by Izuku, Bakugo unleashes his strongest attack against the boy after the exercise was already over. Not only does the attack wreck the building they're in, it injures Iida and Tsuyu as well, the latter being fatally injured. It's only Izuku's Quirk that saves her life. Afterwards, Mitsuki has to beg Nezu not to expel her son and even though he accepts, the boy is still facing criminal charges by Tsuyu's family for Assault and Attempted Murder. Even if Bakugo manages to avoid jail time, he'll still be forced to wear cuffs that prevent him from using his Quirk until he's undergone extensive psychological evaluation.
    • The attack on the USJ and their need to defend themselves against villains leaves several students traumatized and requiring counseling.
  • My Hero Academia Entropy
    • Midoriya tried to transfer to the hero course despite being quirkless and was rejected because it would be to dangerous for someone to be a hero without a quirk.
    • After the Syndicate revealed themselves to the world the parents and siblings they left behind had their reputations destroyed, lost their jobs, forced to drop out of school, assaulted on the street, and faced social ostracization.
  • Some Have Greatness Thrust Upon Them when Mt Lady kicks a villain with a giant Quirk, nothing is made of it in canon. Here Mt Lady caused fatalities in her debut due to her accidentally kicking a villain into an office building, which included Inko. She had her hero license suspended, forced to do remedial training and community service to avoid arrest and barely avoids a lawsuit from her victims. Mt Lady is thankfully repentant and humbled by the experience and is more careful.
  • Reflex:
    • Despite taking first place in every event of the Sports Festival, Izuku only has the third highest number of internship offers with both Momo and Todoroki getting more. While he displayed impressive skill in the second event, most of the time Izuku simply overpowered any obstacles which is far less impressive to Pro Heroes than Momo who thought around any such obstacles. While Izuku fought hard, he only fought smart against a single enemy and only because he wasn't able to use his Quirks at the time. Meanwhile, Momo used her opponents' own Quirks against them such as using an airhorn to deafen Jiro or tricking Ochako into using her Quirk on Momo's ten foot pole which negated its main weakness as a weapon: its weight. Also, Izuku is a no-name student while Momo is a wealthy heiress and Todoroki is the son of the Number 2 hero. Finally, while Izuku is a fairly skilled Lightning Bruiser, his Quirk isn't very flashy compared to Momo's or Todoroki's.
    • Shinso gets only five internship offers both because his Quirk isn't very flashy and because regardless of Izuku's very public speech about discrimination based on Quirks, many are still leery of someone with a "villainous" Quirk.
    • After losing to Shinso, Bakugo tries to attack him out of rage, only to be knocked out by Midnight. Afterwards, Bakugo is almost expelled, having been previously warned about attacking others outside of training, only being spared because Shinso was given the power to choose and decided to be the bigger man in the situation.
  • In The Undead Schoolgirl Dead Pulse the sludge villain incident goes horribly. All Might not stepping in allows Katsuki's explosion to set off a gas leak, causing numerous deaths.
    • All Might and Katsuki survive, but are deeply remorseful. Katsuki because his quirk killed people and All Might feels like an abject failure because he literally watched this go on until the explosion.
    • Nezu points out that All Might could be considered partially responsible for Izuku's suicide, especially because he just left her on the roof alone after destroying her dreams.

     My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic 
  • Bitter Tears: An Anon-A-Miss Fic: When the girls run into the Sirens outside the hospital, Applejack proclaims that they thought they had seen the last of them. Aria points out that while she and her sisters have been banished from Equestria and expelled from CHS, and that moving to a new town requires a lot of money, which the Sirens don't have. When Rarity states that they belong in prison for the trouble they caused in "Rainbow Rocks", Adagio mockingly points out that there's no way the police would believe a story about "evil sea ponies from another dimension tried to take over a high school with pop music." With all that in mind, the Humane Five are essentially stuck with the Sirens, and are bound to run into them from time to time.
  • The Conversion Bureau: Not Alone takes the essential premise and elements of the original The Conversion Bureau story and shows how they would play out realistically. For one thing, the humans aren't happy with the ponies' offensively misanthropic attitudes, not every pony is on board with the Princesses' actions (and for that matter, the other nations of Equus aren't happy about it either), and a society/military with a medieval level of technological development would get trounced by 21st century level weaponry.
  • The Conversion Bureau: The Other Side of the Spectrum:
  • In Discord's New Business, Fluttershy finally gets to be a tree. She's promptly bored to tears, as she can't move or interact with her animals in any way. She can't even see it when an animal pees on her roots. She gives up and asks Discord to change her back.
  • The Equestrian Civil Service Series is all about this. In a magical realm of gods, monsters, heroes, epic adventures (and Royal Brats), there still needs to be somepony to run things behind the scenes, leaving the eternally Beleaguered Bureaucrats of the eponymous Equestrian Civil Service to deal with everything: imminent disasters, the fallout of a visiting celebrity's surprise visit, a castle covered in custard and nopony knows why, etc.
  • The Finger Trap has Twilight Sparkle appear on humanity-occupied earth, and go to the first house she can see to ask for directions. Instead of a person who sympathizes with her and wants to be friends, the main character is the one contacted... who distracts her long enough to call Animal Control.
  • The Night Of Days (in which American Airborne troops and German defenders are teleported from Normandy into Equestria by a reincarnation of Nightmare Moon) has her luring scattered German soldiers to her castle ruins, where she then tries to manipulate them and gradually take them over, in order to make them fight for her and put her on the Equestrian throne. The German commanding officer is... not amused. He nods at first, but then he pulls out his sidearm and nonchalantly guns her down, injuring her severely. Then he declares that the soldiers under his command would be serving no one but "Führer and Vaterland" and leads them on a campaign to colonise Equestrian territory for Nazi Germany. (Word of God says that he wanted to avert exactly what another fanfic he once read did; having the Germans comply with Nightmare Moon without as much as a question. He said he disliked it exactly because it would have been completely unrealistic.)
  • Just like in Ace Attorney, Octavia has evidence in Vinyl and Octavia Duel Destiny which she has taken from the scene of the crime and is about to use to prove Vinyl's innocence, only to be told that it's inadmissible and is barred from practicing law as a result.
  • The Writing on the Wall features this when the eponymous writing is deciphered, revealing the true nature of the Ancient Tomb that Daring Do had been exploring. Why Daring Do and the workers had gotten sick when the building had been abandoned for thousands of years, as well as the strange construction of the building and the various defenses constructed around it is explained in a single stroke. Unfortunately for the characters involved, The Reveal turns the story into a Horror story, as the disease is not one caused by any sort of pathogen, or indeed anything a pony would understand. The whole place was a nuclear waste dump left by humans centuries ago, and the ponies were all getting sick from radiation poisoning. In the end, all Daring Do and the others can do is lock the door behind them and warn people to stay out.
  • The Lunaverse:
    • Pinkie Pie the hyperactive Genki Girl party animal is exactly as annoying as you might expect such a character to be in reality.
    • In At the Grand Galloping Gala, Princess Luna explains in great detail to Trixie why she can't just up and throw around her royal authority to get rid of the Deadly Decadent Court, at least not if she wants to avoid becoming a dictator.
  • The Demesne Of The Reluctant Twilight Sparkle
    • As badass as Rainbow Dash and Applejack are, they can't singlehoofedly fight off a group of anonymous looters who both outnumber them and get the jump on them.
    • Twilight eventually learns that suddenly being given complete and total control of her own demesne has far reaching consequences when the nobles of Equestria realize they too not only have complete control over their own demesnes, but can conquer other demesnes at will, putting Equestria on the path to civil war.
  • The Triptych Continuum is sometimes summarized as "My Little Pony: Reality Ensues". The events of the first three seasons of the show are followed faithfully, but the consequences and implications of those events are explored and extrapolated in a more realistic manner. Going on missions and being available to go on missions has economic, social, and emotional costs for the Mane Six. Political and PR maneuvering are factors in almost everything the Princesses and other public figures do. The over-the top events and occasional insanity of events and individuals in Ponyville have lasting consequences. The implications that the world is dangerous outside of the settled areas Ponies have managed to establish are expanded upon. And so on.
    • As Ponies are smaller than humans, Canadian Geese are much closer in size to Equestrians, which makes them a lot more dangerous in Goosed.
  • Long Road to Friendship
    • The fic, as a whole, deals with Sunset Shimmer's reformation from an Alpha Bitch to a Jerk with a Heart of Gold, while making her life a living hell for it. Despite honestly wanting to change, Sunset is constantly distrusted, is assigned months of detention for her actions, and suffers a Catapult Nightmare literally every time she goes to sleep because of her inability to move on. However, it also shows Twilight Sparkle's human counterpart bonding quickly with the new Sunset, because Human Twilight has only ever seen Sunset's good side.
    • Later chapters also show how randomly moving from one dimension to another has a lot of unforeseen consequences, as the fic averts Undead Tax Exemption with Sunset Shimmer's living situation. When Sunset first arrives in the human world, she has to struggle to learn how to walk, and come to grips with every creature looking vastly different. Also, Sunset comes over with no money, no family, no friends, no public records, no official identification of any kind, no stable income, and few practical skills since the human world doesn't have any magic. She ends up having to live in an abandoned factory and mooch off of boyfriends in high school just to survive, hoping that no one finds out.
  • Spectacular Seven
    • The Sirens promised ten thousand dollars for winning the Battle of the Bands. While the Spectacular Seven are planning a vacation with the prize money, they suddenly realize that it was probably a lie, seeing as how the Sirens were only interested in spreading a Hate Plague. When the Seven go to City Hall, the mayor confirms that there's no prize money.
    • During the Snowball Fight in Volume II, Sunset tries dashing across the snow and ice. She slips, falls, and hits her head, causing her to start bleeding.
    • Rainbow Dash may be a Passionate Sports Girl, but isn't an Instant Expert at snowboarding just because she wants to be. She spends her first day snowboarding having to learn how to maintain her balance on the beginner's slope, and frequently falls on her face into the snow. When Rainbow tries doing a back flip off of a ramp in her second day, she doesn't get a full rotation, hitting the ground so hard that she breaks her shoulder.
    • Twilight overhears someone at school insulting Sunset Shimmer. The other kid insists that Sunset, who has gone missing for several days with no indication as to where she might have gone, deserves whatever she's going to get because of her past as an Alpha Bitch. Twilight promptly socks the other student in the jaw. When Principal Celestia finds out, Twilight gets detention.
  • In Fallout: Equestria: Littlepip manages to destroy a raider den with no small amount of luck, and scavenges their armor. She then walks towards a small caravan covered in blood and wearing raider armor; she is promptly shot by the guard, who assumed she was a raider.
  • In Fallout: Equestria - Empty Quiver, one of the weapons which Night Strike picks up is a fully-automatic pony-portable sniper rifle, chambered for .50 BMG. The first time she fires it ends about as well as you'd expect.
  • In The Elements of Friendship, NightMare Moon succeeding in bringing about The Night That Never Ends causes temperatures to drop, and a lack of food as crops die from a combination of that and lack of sunlight. Meanwhile, the other half of the planet is suffering from Endless Daytime, everything burning and the boiling oceans resulting in megastorms. All told, only a narrow strip of the planet at the day/night border, the Twilight Zone, is habitable, and that quickly starts to be overwhelmed by refugees.
  • While many fanfics either ignore or play straight the issues of the former Pony in a human body sexual preferences, ''Sunset Shimmer Lends Pinkie Pie the Wrong Thumb Drive'' points out how different Earth horses are from Equestrian Ponies and how Sunset would not be attracted to horses any more than a regular human would be. She also doesn't actually find humans attractive either, due to the sheer differences in anatomy.
  • In Equestra Girls the Empowered World, Sunset Shimmer notes that when she came to Earth she had to learn the Latin Alphabet via children's books, seeing as magical ponies and humans likely do not share the same written language, and likely not even the same alphabet.
  • Scar Tissue reminds us that having body parts suddenly grow out of you can leave nasty marks even after they get friendship beamed away. A version with Sci-Twi also exists called Battle Scars.
  • Marionettes:
    • As the Traintop Battle begins, Trixie comments that the movies never mention the extreme wind that makes even moving on top of a train difficult.
    • While fighting Rainbow Dash, Gear Shift reveals his ability to increase his speed. While this gives him the advantage at first, he quickly becomes exhausted. Rainbow notes that he's conditioned like a sprinter while she's conditioned for long distance flying.
    • After Cover Story turns out to be a robot just like Trixie and Lightning Dust, Twilight guesses this trope is at play. An organization that kidnaps, brainwashes, and messes with memories as part of their activities would naturally have a low recruitment, too low to actually keep it running, and thus would need to compensate by using their robots to make more members. Masquerade later confirms this was in fact correct.
    • The Marionettes are still machines, and as a result need a cooling system to work properly. As a result, they're programmed to search out cold drinks when they're overheating to act as coolant. This is remedied in the Generation 5 Marionettes, and Twilight figures out a way to give Trixie and Lightning Dust an upgrade to accomplish the same thing.
    • The events of the season 5 finale happen and Gypsy's connection to the Tree of Harmony means she witnesses all the alternate timelines personally. The Stallions react to the 'Flim Flam Brothers take over the world' timeline as one would expect their organization to finding out two of their androids took over the world in an alternate timeline and nearly destroy them both on the spot before Gypsy saves them.
  • In Asylum, asylum!Pinkie Pie's Cutie Mark origin starts the same as it does in the main universe. Pinkie Pie sees the Rainboom and gets so excited she throws her family a party. However, being such a young filly who likely never even used a stove before, it doesn't turn out well. Pinkie sets the house on fire and receives permanent scars on her flank as a result. This left Pinkie very traumatized to the point where she was eventually sent to a mental hospital.
  • As someone from a much earlier time, Princess Luna often is shown befuddled by more modern concepts. For example, in the Princess of Books, the idea of someone being able to write scandalous things about her without the death penalty involved.
  • Her Inner Demons sees the Shadowbolts wonder why a wallflower like Sci-Twi would have a Superpowered Evil Side like Midnight Sparkle. Turns out, it's from her classmates treating her with contempt. Being insulted, ignored, blackmailed, and suffering through all kinds of abuse in Crystal Prep gave Sci-Twi plenty of dark thoughts about the people around her, just like any real-life high school student might react.
  • In Aftermath of the Games and its sequel Integration, one of the key plot points is that Twilight is raising a filly Starlight Glimmer after plucking her from the past and erasing her older self in the hopes of her turning out better than she originally did. As the older Starlight grew up in a neglectful orphanage, Twilight takes extra care to raise the younger version in a loving environment with tons of support. However, despite Starlight being on the path to turn out better, she still demonstrates early warning signs of her older self's fanatical behavior. This is Truth in Television, as upbringing is only one of many factors, such as genetics and culture, that influnces personality and mental disturbances.
    • In Integration, Human Rainbow Dash at one point kicks a Changeling mobster in the balls when he attempts to kidnap Sci-Twi. He's not only crippled by the pain, but actually requires immediate hospitalization and medical treatment.
    • Sci-Twi suffers from terrible nightmares about Midnight Sparkle, her Superpowered Evil Side. Unfortunately, she can't go to a human therapist, since none of them would believe her story. Her psychological problems only worsen in the sequel, when she develops magical powers. Instead of being happy, she has a Freak Out! and fears that she'll eventually succumb to temptation and become Midnight again, to the point where Sunset has to talk her out of hiding in the bathroom. In fact, her mental block is so huge that she couldn't even use her powers to defend herself during the near-kidnapping. This incident made Sunset and Twilight realize that she can no longer function without professional help, and the latter gets Dr. Heart, one of the only ponies outside of the main characters who know about both dimensions, to help Sci-Twi out.
  • The Redemption of Tempest Shadow, which takes place after the movie has Tempest Shadow, the Storm King's former second-in-command, being reviled by the ponies of Equestria despite her Heel–Face Turn. Even her sister, Razzle Fizzle, is furious with her actions. This proves that just because Twilight is willing to forgive Tempest, it doesn't mean anybody else is going to automatically follow suit.
    • Applejack and Rainbow Dash point out during Chapter 8 that even if Tempest did do a genuine Heel–Face Turn, she still cannot go unpunished for her crimes (which include conquering Equestria and other countries, enslaving those populations, and joining forces with a maniac emperor, all because she broke her horn) because that would not be fair to the thousands, maybe even millions, of victims who suffered because of her. Also, because Tempest's misdeeds were war crimes, that means that it's impossible for her not to be punished for them.
    • Later on, it is revealed that the Cutie Mark Crusaders are suffering from PTSD from being locked up in cages.
    • Futhermore, there were lots of casualties in Canterlot from Tempest's attack on the city.
  • The Assassination of Twilight Sparkle: When new work laws were enacted that would allow non-pegasi, including unicorns and griffons, to work at the Cloudsdale weather factory, Fastlane's father, a pegasus worker at the factory, was enraged. He and some of the other pegasi went on strike, but the factory just hired replacement workers with the same wages and benefits. Even when the other strikers returned to work, he continued to hold out, to the point of refusing to get another job. Nobody cared, his efforts amounted to nothing, and his family became so poor that they couldn't afford his wife's medical expenses. Having pride doesn't put food on the table or pay the bills, and if you don't swallow it when you have to, you'll end up with nothing.
    • Not to mention the eponymous situation. The families of the culprits are ostracized and persecuted in society, and that's not even getting into the immensely painful death that they earn by killing the favored student of their ruler and a beloved public figure.
  • In The Royal Sketchbook Twilight and her friends try to save a pillaged village from violent bandits. It's not like anything they've seen before. Even Flash Sentry is shellshocked. When Twilight tries to talk to a pillager, he just mocks her then spits in her face.
  • Pinkamina in Ask Pinkamina Diane Pie tries to dramatically lick a knife and just ends up slicing her tongue.
  • In the one-shot Below Average, Starlight Glimmer finds out the hard way that taking away Princess Celestia's special talent results in a perpetual sunset, equalizing your local blacksmith results in fragile weapons and armor that the Royal Guard effortlessly defeats, a spell to remove a cutie mark has no effect on those who don't have them, and if you rely exclusively on your magic, an opponent with magic-repelling bowties will render you Powerful and Helpless.
    • In general, having everyone completely average at everything makes for a rather terrible place to live. Houses regularly collapse because there's no trained architects or construction workers, food is barely edible since no one is any good at cooking, etc.
  • Equestria: Civil War
    • The fanfic, in general, deconstructs the Easily Forgiven trope that is a staple of the series. Although Starlight Glimmer pulled a Heel–Face Turn and the Mane 6 no longer held any grudges against her, this doesn't excuse the fact that she committed a lot of crimes in the past, or change the fact that she hurt several ponies who wouldn't be willing to forgive her. Because Twilight was quick to forgive Starlight in spite of her actions, ponies all across Equestria have accused Twilight of being a Horrible Judge of Character and suggest that her decisions as a princess be questioned. As a result, the Reformed Antagonist Regulation Act (R.A.R.A) - a checks and balances type of system developed to monitor former villains - ended up garnering a lot of supporters. Including Rarity, Cadance, and Applejack.
    • In addition, the fic also points out that ponies were either killed or seriously injured during the Changeling invasion in the Season 2 finale. In fact, Thunderbolt's whole reason for pushing the R.A.R.A act to be passed comes from how his daughter was killed and his ex-wife was crippled during the invasion.
  • Loved And Lost:
    • When the disgraced heroes try to tell Twilight and Canterlot's citizens that Jewelius helped Chrysalis to infiltrate Canterlot before double-crossing her and is truly a heartless manipulator, Rainbow Dash suggests to have the also imprisoned Queen Chrysalis as their verifier. The suggestion is immediately shot down because no-one considers such a deceptive villain to be a reliable witness.
      Rainbow Dash: Just ask Chrysalis herself!
      A stallion: You're telling us to ask a creature who lies and deceives ponies to clarify the truth?!
      Rainbow Dash: Oh.
    • At first it seems like the entire Royal Guard has sworn loyalty to Jewelius at the drop of a hat. However, it's revealed in the 11th chapter that most guards suffered serious injuries during the invasion, but many of them continued swearing loyalty to the dismantled princesses. On Jewelius' orders, they were murdered and declared to be casualties of the invasion, allowing Jewelius to fill the greatly decreased ranks with criminals he released from dungeons in exchange for their loyalty.
    • Jewelius gets to see that while you can sway someone into supporting you, you cannot make them utterly discard long-upheld beliefs or bonds just like that. He wins Twilight's trust by acting understandingly toward her while she gets the cold shoulder from her brother, mentor and friends. He then separates her from them before reconciliations can be made and manipulates her to stop trusting them while he's able to play around her fresh heartache as he sees fit for one week, without the banished heroes or Twilight's parents (whom he kidnapped) anywhere around. Once the banished heroes have returned, Twilight acts coldly toward them and refuses to trust them (except for Cadance), but she's faced with incidents that contradict Jewelius' claims. note  After getting chances to vent her hurt feelings, Twilight starts doubting and thinking. She eventually defies Jewelius' order of lying to ponies who trust her and decides — right before Jewelius drops all pretences with her — that she wants to reconcile with her loved ones and that Jewelius has much to learn about responsible ruling. Likewise, Canterlot's citizens gradually become disillusioned with the smoke and mirrors of Jewelius and want back the wise ruler who has reigned for as long as they can remember.
    • After the entire Changeling army has escaped from Canterlot's dungeons, Jewelius refuses to acknowledge the urgency to prepare against them and directs all his efforts in taking down the heroes. Unlike what he seems to be thinking, Chrysalis (a highly vindictive queen who has a personal score to settle with him) is not going to just wait for as long as he likes for another chance to get revenge against him after she failed to reach him once.note  Not to mention the suspicions he instills through this behavior in Twilight and Canterlot's citizens who all acknowledge the Changelings to be a bigger concern than the fugitive heroes.
    • During her duel with Rainbow Dash in the final battle, Vivian goes into a Motive Rant of how Equestria has become weak under the rule of the alicorns and the Elements of Harmony. This gives Rainbow Dash a chance to take her by surprise and knock her unconscious.
  • Sunset's Recovery Arc: Being a high schooler who lives by herself, Sunset doesn't have the money to get professional help about her depression. There aren't many other ways for her to see a therapist elsewhere either. Being from another dimension, she's not a citizen so she can't get insurance and she doesn't have a birth certificate to become a citizen. Charity clinics also have a long waiting list.
  • Getting Back on Your Hooves: At the end of the story, Helping Hoof finally turns on Checker and helps expose her crimes. However, he still ends up in prison, albeit with a reduced sentence, for being an accomplice to her crimes.
  • Changeling Courtship Rituals:
    • The joke side story Realistic Changeling Courtship Rituals is, to quote the author, what happens if Twilight "reacts in a much more normal way, rather than like a sitcom character." It's a much shorter and rather sad story where the ridiculous relationship goes absolutely nowhere, thus demonstrating that Reality Ensues isn't always the best.
    • On the other hand, the sequel story Pony Courtship Rituals is all about how Twilight's beloved sister-in-law Cadence is convinced that Chrysalis is still an enemy and repeatedly attempts to sabotage her relationship with Twilight. This culminates in Cadence physically attacking them, and they resolve the problem by getting a restraining order against her.


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