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Basic Trope: A parental figure forbids their ward from doing something they like because it interferes with what the parental figure thinks will help their ward succeed.

  • Straight: Alice loves to play the piano, but her father Bob forbids her from playing because it takes time away from her warrior training.
  • Exaggerated:
    • Alice is obsessed with playing the piano to the point of self harm, and Bob wants nothing more than for Alice to be a Blood Knight.
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    • Alice wants to play the piano really bad. Bob can't have that, so Bob kills off every piano teacher in the town and blows up the local musical instrument stores ensuring that Alice cannot possibly play the piano.
  • Downplayed: Bob buys a piano for Alice and signs her up for lessons, but seems skeptical that she could pursue it professionally. He pressures her to prioritize her warrior training.
  • Justified:
    • Alice is young and her ideas for her future are likely foolish or unlikely to succeed. Bob just wants Alice to have a fallback set of skills.
    • Bob despises Alice and is deliberately trying to crush Alice's spirit. He demands Alice meet an impossible goal while shaming everything she does that's unrelated.
    • Bob comes from a culture where Asskicking Equals Authority, and he believes teaching Alice to fight will help gain respect for the both of them more so than if Alice learns playing the piano.
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    • Bob wants something to show off to other parents, and he'd rather show off that his daughter is a skilled warrior than an accomplished musician.
    • After years, Alice still plays the piano like a beginner, but Bob notices she can effortlessly defeat bullies at school who pick on her. Bob just wants Alice to play to her strengths.
    • Bob is a Control Freak and wants absolute control over his daughter's activities. Bob planned out for Alice to be a warrior and will not let Alice do anything else.
    • Bob was taught by his own mother to be an accomplished fighter. He wants Alice to follow in her footsteps because fighting is the only thing Bob knows how to teach, and Bob feels ashamed if his daughter pursues a path in which Bob cannot help.
  • Inverted:
    • Bob has to badger Alice into doing things other than taking up the family business or following in Bob's footsteps.
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    • Alice thinks that her dad shouldn't pursue a degree or get a job once all his children grow up.
    • Bob badgers and relentlessly tries to manipulate Alice... into being a world-famous science-fiction writer and astronaut. Alice would rather be a dentist, or an electrician, if given the choice.
  • Gender Inverted: Andrew loves to play the piano, but his mother Betty forbids him from playing because it takes time away from his warrior training.
  • Subverted: Bob encourages Alice to experiment and do the things she loves best.
  • Double Subverted: ... but secretly sabotages all these attempts to drive Alice into willingly doing what Bob wants.
  • Parodied:
    • Alice fights tooth and nail to play the piano... and she sucks. Bob wants Alice to be a warrior because he thinks she'd be successful at it... and she sucks at that too!
    • Bob finds a way to kill two birds with one stone: Lock Alice and her piano teacher up in a room, give both of them weapons, and forces Alice to kill her piano teacher.
  • Zig Zagged: Bob disapproves of Alice's hobbies, but it's only teasing. Alice prefers her hobbies to what her dad wants him to do, only to realize he doesn't like those hobbies and is doing it solely to rebel.
  • Averted: Alice doesn't have hobbies that distract her from her true calling, and Bob wouldn't mind if he did because they help round out a person.
  • Enforced: This is a coming of age story and there has to be inter-generational strife to overcome.
  • Lampshaded: "Alice, I realize I sound just like my own father when I say this..."
  • Invoked:
    • Alice wants to make Bob angry, so she takes up hobbies that she knows will annoy him.
    • Bob wants Alice to become passionate about something, so he tries to forbid her hobbies to help her find the one she truly loves.
  • Exploited: Betty, Alice's jealous younger sister, tells Bob rumors about Alice not training in favor of hobbies.
  • Defied: Bob knows Alice will resent the strict training regiment he has her under, so he allows Alice opportunities to try new things.
  • Discussed: "Bob, forcing Alice to follow a path she don't want, and denying her choice won't end well."
  • Conversed: "You'd think obsessive control freaks in these stories would realize that crushing the dreams of their children in favor of their own just makes it likelier they'll rebel."
  • Deconstructed: Bob does this to relive his dreams by proxy, which were ironically taken taken from him by a father doing the exact same thing.
  • Reconstructed: Alice and Bob live in a world where Alice doing anything but what Bob knows to be best will mean Alice's suffering or death later in life. Like a post apocalyptic world or royal family.
  • Plotted A Good Waste: Usually this plot is used to make Alice sympathetic and ends with Bob reconsidering her opinion. It's instead used to make Bob sympathetic by showcasing how he better knows Alice's strengths and what it would take for her to succeed, while Alice is oblivious and disrespectful.
  • Played For Laughs:
    • Alice is awful at her hobbies, and Bob's idea of a good career goal for Alice would make her dirt poor and miserable.
    • Bob throws a tantrum any time someone tells him that Alice is wonderful at playing the piano.
    • Alice plays the piano on national broadcast. Bob runs screaming onto the stage, destroys the piano, and drags Alice away, kicking and screaming. The audience applauds, thinking it was part of the performance.
  • Played For Drama:
    • The strain tears Alice and Bob apart, and leads to both leading unhappy lives.
    • Alice becomes a world-class musician, playing to sold-out crowds at major concert halls. Bob, still bitter that Alice didn't go into a career about fighting, gets surrounded by reporters, journalists, bloggers, and fans requesting for Bob to talk about his daughter's rise to fame. Bob, unable to deal with constant reminders that his daughter is a successful musician and not a warrior and knowing he will never sway Alice back to fighting, commits suicide with a note reading, "The world will never understand."
    • The steps Bob takes to keep Alice on the path to becoming a warrior are flat-out child abuse. When they lead him getting arrested and tossed into prison for life, he's either distraught that society decided to stand behind Alice and her "stupid dream" instead of his efforts at doing his job as a parent; or he's proud that part of the denouement was Alice reaching her Rage Breaking Point and smashing his nose in just the way he taught her, crowing that she may still have a future as a warrior even as everybody looks at him like he's gone insane.

Alice Marie Troperson, how many times do I have to tell you, go back to Fantasy-Forbidding Father! You'll never amount to anything if you hang around with riff-raff like this page.

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