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The House of Philosophy is essentially a massive forum where deities can gather and debate their points of view. The place has a rather Roman feel to it, with a large open plaza littered with Roman-style buildings, fountains, plants, and other elements one would expect in a large, well maintained park. The House is open to any deity, and many are encouraged to come here to resolve their issues with their words rather than their fists. The deities that make their home here, however, spend the majority of their time plumbing the depths and mysteries of life, the universe, and everything.

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Alignment Incarnations

A quartet of Overdeities representing the Four Cardinal Moral Alignments: Good, Evil, Lawful, and Chaotic, that form the cores of all philosophies.

    Cosmos 
Cosmos, Goddess of Good, and Leader of the Grand United Alliance of Good (Goddess of Harmony)
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    Melkor 
Melkor, God of Evil and Leader of the Grand United Alliance of Evil (Morgoth, Bauglir, The Supreme Dark Lord, The Great Enemy, Dark Enemy of the World, Belegurth)
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  • Overdeity of Evil
  • Symbol: His iron crown, with the Silmarils absent from it.
  • Alignment: Chaotic Evil, however he can just as easily pretend to be Lawful or Neutral Evil if it suits his purposes
  • Portfolio: Those Modeled After the Devil, The Greatest of the Valar Turned the First Dark Lord, Source of All Malady, Made of Evil, Evil Is Deathly Cold and Burning Hot, The Dark Side Will Make You Forget, Casts a Shadow Over Arda, Creative Sterility, A God Am I, Dark Is Evil, Villains Want Mercy, Lord of All Discord and Malady, Corruption, Omnicidal Maniac
  • Domains: Evil, Darkness, Corruption, Tyranny, Destruction, Hatred, Fear, Greed, and many more negative things.
  • High Priest: Lord Foul the Despiser
  • Followers: Torak, The Crimson King, The First Evil, Melzas
  • Superior: J.R.R Tolkien...for the most part
  • Allies: For now, he has an alliance of convenience with Nyarlathotep and Aku. In addition, he is in good graces with most card-carrying villains, dragons, orcs, sorcerers and demons of the evil alignment, and those who are Made of Evil
  • The Man Behind the Man to: Quite possibly almost every villain to exist, with the certain exception of Nekron, Amatsu-Mikaboshi and the Anti-Monitor (and the debatable exception of Ungoliant and the Lich)
  • Rivals: The Beast, Chaos (also occasional allies), The Anti-Monitor
  • Enemies: Though he has many enemies, Melkor considers the subjugation and/or annihilation of Manwe Sulimo (his brother), Ungoliant (his former ally), Cosmos, YHVH, Lucifer, Nekron and Philemon to take precedence. On a more personal and petty note, he considers Io, Iroque, Amaterasu, Goku, Vegeta, Superman and every creator god to be on top of his hit list.
  • Opposes: Eru Illuvatar himself, the Houses of Craft and Music, the sub-houses of Dragons.
  • Ambiguous relationship with: Krona the Mad Guardian
  • Melkor, later renamed as Morgoth came to be as the first and mightiest of the Ainur, created from the thought of Eru Illuvatar. Though second only to his Creator, he was not content to follow Eru's sacred design. He sought to create of his own, to make his own tunes which would bring discord and darkness. Thus would begin his transformation into the First Dark Lord, the Great Enemy of Arda and the God of Evil who sought to remake and destroy all things in his image, above even Eru. Though his corruption still echos, Melkor himself was locked away in the Timeless Halls. It was initially believed he would stay that way forever, or at least until Dagor Dagorath. However, something caused his chains to break, and the Dark Lord wandered to find the Trope Pantheon. Now free of the narrative rules and structure of his home universe, Melkor believes he may finally be able to achieve his goal of degradating, corrupting and annihilating all existence.
    • Has spent the past few score thousand years sealed away in the Void by gods now long forgotten. Is highly curious about this newfangled technology stuff mortals have come up with in his absence, but is learning fast enough that he's only set his hair on fire twice so far. Credited by ancient scrolls as developing genetic engineering roughly 20,000 years before any other villain.
    • Is rather pissed at Sauron for how poorly evil in Arda was managed in his absence. It took the gods themselves to dethrone Melkor's reign of terror, but all it took was a few midgets and a "hey, look at this squad over here" to dethrone that incompetent minion he had running things.
    • Melkor has sought out new enforcers, leading him to seek out the deadliest and most evil souls in creation. He has joined with three of them, founding the Four Horsemen; Majin Buu was chosen for sharing his tastes and to serve as the muscle, Johan Liebert was chosen to break the wills of men and help with intelligence, and Griffith was chosen to defile and corrupt. While Buu has been kept in check due to his Sweet Tooth (for the most part), the other two bide their time to usurp him. The Grand United Alliance of Good is deciding which would be a greater hassle for them.
  • The Dark Enemy of the World is not merely the "god" of evil, but in all but a few rare occasions the source of evil itself. Through his hateful thoughts Melkor brought discord into creation, marring the initial design. It hasn't been fully confirmed if he's responsible for evil in all universes, however most cataloged in the Trope Pantheon do recognize him as the source. Almost all villains from 20th and 21st century works are said to all originate from Melkor. It is a role Melkor has wholeheartedly embraced, leading to him becoming on of the four Cardinal Alignments. Many villains now serve under him in the Grand United Alliance of Evil, though it's hard to find those truly loyal to him.
    • Melkor's influence and power seems to depend on how morality works in certain universes. He's stronger in worlds of Black and White or straight up black morality, while weaker in worlds of grey morality. Places like the Cthulhu Mythos where good and evil are quaint concepts are where he's most impotent, however.
    • It's worth noting that while Melkor is responsible for evil in creation, he is not responsible for evil outside or preceding it. Nekron is unaffected by him, having been created from the darkness preceding light, while Amatsu-Mikaboshi existed long before the multiverse came into being, as does Orgalorg. It's debated if the Lich was one of the few evil beings preceding Melkor, but he doesn't think much of them.
      • Depending on who you ask, Ungoliant was either corrupted by him or actually an independent entity outside Illuvatar's dynamic. Though if Melkor ever had influence over her, it's gone.
    • Recent evidence may suggest that even Melkor is not the initial source of evil. Rather, it may be Krona. Having interfered with creation, many in the GUAE believe that he may have been responsible for Melkor's Face–Heel Turn, and possibly even more. The Mad Guardian feels insulted by this; he wished to look back at the dawn of time in order to understand how all things came to be and why, any damage he did because of it is accidental. Further research revealed a more confusing truth; Melkor became evil on his own, but it was Krona's tampering that resulted in it manifesting as an actual substance he could spread and diffuse. Given the timey-wimey experiment Krona was doing, it may be a lot more accurate to say Melkor and Krona were behind each other.
  • Having spread his spirit across all of Middle-Earth, Melkor CANNOT die unless Arda itself is destroyed. He has used this opportunity to mock Death herself, as she seemingly can never take him. Didi hasn't responded, simply because she knows this is crock; Middle-Earth's destruction and recreation is inevitable. And when that happens, he'll be sniveling at her feet as Eru Illuvatar comes for him.
  • The First Dark Lord is not just evil on a grand scale, but on a petty level as well. Though once great, he now takes greater joy in the corruption of mortals, and the misery of his enemies in even the most minor of achievements. It is this which in part led him to form the Grand United Alliance of Evil; to befoul creation and create a playground for evil all to spite existence and Eru Illuvatar.
    • Desires to slay Amaterasu, Goddess of the Sun, in hopes of re-living his destruction of the Two Lamps. He also seeks to slay Io and take over the sub-house of Dragons, whom he claims to be his creations.
    • Will go ballistic if anybody mentions Fingolfin.
  • Many regard Melkor's backstory and portfolio as being remarkable similar to the well-known tale of Archangel Lucifer, better known as Satan or The Devil. It is believed by most that he is none other than the Devil himself. The Beast would disagree, stating that he is the true Devil and influenced Melkor. Lucifer thinks they're both full of shit.
    • Is likely the source behind The Dark Side, however Sheev Palpatine believes the reverse to be true. He certainly emenates it, putting him at odds with the entire Jedi Order.
  • More recently, The Golden Spider has pissed off Melkor by claiming to be above the God of Evil. The Golden Spider's reasoning is that he is a Creator of Life, much like Eru, who was the one who created Melkor, meaning that Melkor was below him. Understandably, this turned many heads, considering the Golden Spider called such a thing into question. Given his previous experience with Ungoliant, Melkor might have arachnophobia.
    • In general, the presence of other creator deities is something that aggravates the Dark Lord to no end. Ultimately impotent against the forces of his own creator, Melkor seeks to take his anger out on the other creative forces in the pantheon.
    • Though J.R.R Tolkien is a superior of sorts for Melkor, the Dark Enemy argues otherwise, as he passed before The Silmarilian could be finished. Tolkein is still recognized as his superior by most, as he's still behind the tales of Middle-Earth and the story was completed by his son Christopher(who has been promised a position if he ever ascends). Most regard this as just Melkor unable to accept he has superiors.
  • Is GREATLY displeased by recent events caused by the Great Upheaval which has led to him being upstaged by both Lucifer and YHVH being tied for the position of the Pantheon's number one threat. No one knows what he intends to do yet, but he has been heard muttering that "Law and Chaos are nothing compared to the merciless, annihilating power of True Evil, I shall teach them all that...''
    • Upon learning that some of the most significant members of his alliance had jumped ship over to Lucifer and YHVH's newly created ones, his fury knew no bounds. Volcanic mountain ranges rose all across the streets of the Pantheon and erupted with titanic force, as violent thunderstorms raged in the skies not just above the Pantheon, but above the world(s) of mortals as well. Melkor's ranting earthquake-like voice, full of absolute malice and insanity, echoed and boomed across every House and Temple as he screamed forth a terrible vow: note 
    • The Great Will yawned and responded: note 
    • Lucifer's response was considerably more succinct: note 
  • Behind all his dystopic ambitions, unending cruelty and malice, Melkor was driven due to a desire to create. It is a power he could never obtain, due to the nature of evil in his universe. And it is a power he'll never have outside, as he cannot escape the limitations put on him by his creator. Only able to mock and corrupt, Melkor seeks to steal the power of all creator gods in the pantheon, and if not will befoul, torture and destroy them the best he can. Good, neutral and evil, all those with The Power of Creation unite in enmity towards the Enemy of Middle-Earth.
  • Recently, a (non-canon) novel known as the black book of arda has been uncovered that details eru as a tyrant who oppressed the world to force true perfection on everything and depicted Melkor as a bringer of freedom to the people of arda. He has since tried to use it to attract others to his side. No one is buying it for a second.
  • Also resides in the Main House and the Houses of Leadership and Villains.

    YHVH 
YHVH, the Absolute Lawmaker, and Leader of the Grand United Alliance of Law (YHWH, Yehowah, Yahweh, Elohim, Sabaoth, Shaddai, Kagutsuchi, Demiurge, Ancient of Days, the Great Will (Or rather, its rogue avatar), The Lord)
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  • Overdeity of Law
  • Symbol: His Countenance
  • Theme Music: Omega (YHVH), Major Boss (Sabaoth, Shaddai, Elohim, YHVH), Kagutsuchi Battle 1, Kagutsuchi Battle 2, Merkabah I (Ancient of Days), Merkabah II (heard when he gets REALLY angry), Foreseeing the Horizon Battle, Evil Incarinate (heard when he's DONE with your sins)
  • Alignment: Pure Law, which translates out to Lawful Good to his loyal followers and Lawful Evil to everyone else.
  • Portfolio: Villainous Supreme Beings, Tyrannical Abuse of Law, Abominable Abuse of His Own Creation, Soulless Worlds, The Evils of Free Will, Gods Influenced by Their Worshippers, Absolute Moral Authority, Immortality by Proxy, Once-Benevolent Deities Driven Insane, Genocide, Lack of Empathy, Order Is Not Good
  • Domains: Light, Law, Creation, Tyranny, Faith, Order
  • Herald: Metatron
  • Followers: "The Loving God," The Creator, a second The Creator, The Occuria, various not-good light-aligned beings, at least until he crosses one too many Moral Event Horizons for even them
  • Allies: Metatron, Yaldabaoth, the God of Control, tenuous alliances of convenience with Darkseid, Sheev Palpatine, Sauron, Megatron, Dolores Umbridge, Arthas Menethil, Red Skull, Lex Luthor, Destro, Copy X, Frollo, Seymour Guado, Ozymandias
  • Enemies: Lucifer, and for that matter, the entire Chaos Pantheon, benevolent creator-figures (he gives them a bad name), Sosuke Aizen (Aizen sees him as an obstacle to his ambitions), Yuuki Terumi, Valvatorez, Shu Shirakawa, Luka, the GUAG Sisterhood... Pretty much everyone with a modicum of Free Will, which is to say, Everyone not listed under "allies".
  • Apart from the ones hailing from his own multiverse, his "followers" listed above don't so much follow him as work toward the same goal, as they're all fairly powerful themselves and would gladly try to take over his portfolio if given half the chance. However, given the massive legions he has amassed, none of the competitors come nearly close to challenging his role as the Overdeity of Law.
  • YHVH is also highly intolerant of other Top God candidates, outright seeking the annihilation of all other Creator Gods with limited success. He refuses to acknowledge the existence of any Creator who has proven stronger (not that there are many), and indeed, many of the friendlier Creators prefer it so, given the kind of press he generates for them. While there have been countless attempts to overthrow him, the desire to return to the stability and order he promises is too great, and as many times as he is destroyed, he invariably comes back. This is why he mocks any and all attempts to remove him from the human spirit or from the Throne of Law. And why he regards the "Pantheonic Rebellion" as a particularly funny if stupid joke.
  • His Blue and Orange Morality isn't hard to comprehend. It's merely that his Law and Good axes and the Chaos and Evil ones overlap perfectly. Consequently, Chaotic Good is a complete oxymoron to him, as is Lawful Evil. It would be a terrible mistake to define the Great Will as purely evil - horrifying as his acts may be, he ultimately seeks the best for his Chosen, and to save as many as he can to usher them into an egalitarian paradise, with everyone serving as a well-oiled cog under his benevolent, perfect will, happy and protected forever and ever. Any form of freedom or difference is an unnecessary luxury he eventually intends to dispense with, and if a few have to suffer for the many to achieve his dream, so be it.
  • Through the power of Kagutsuchi and the Conception, he constantly creates and destroys universes in an eternal quest to create his perfect world, studying the variables of Humanity and how to manipulate them better, so he can ultimately purge them, no matter the cost, on every world and every timeline, of The Evils of Free Will. This worked so well some believe Shinryu might have been cribbing ideas from him.
  • He's the ultimate incarnation of the concepts of Law and Tyranny. It's said that he was once a benevolent god, but was driven to insanity and corruption by a massive flaw in reality. There are literally none who remember how he once was. Few are willing to broach the subject, either for fear of provoking him...or finding out what he has to say. Even worse, nobody's sure of exactly what was/is the flaw in reality that caused the shift. Efforts to find out what this was and eliminate its influence on the Mad God have all failed miserably.
    • There was one universe where he tried being more empathetic. More or less worked, except that due to an earlier act of dickery (orchestrating the whole Abel And Cain scenario to create the first martyr and the first murderer) what seemed to be a perfect plan for the domination of Law got derailed and he had to settle for at least preventing that Earth from falling into absolute Chaos. Metatron was ordered to take a note on the incident, file it, and lose it for a while.
    • One of Flynn's more recent timelines has given a partial explanation. Apparently, he is actually a rogue avatar of the Great Will, which has responded to his actions by giving humanity the means to defeat him over countless times.
  • He personally has little interest in the Pantheon (he isn't even around most of the time), though he regularly sends envoys and avatars to oversee the situation.
  • Very similar to the Abrahamic God, but not the same thing.
  • His legions, while completely loyal, seem to have various degrees of understanding as to what exactly His will is. Most glaringly, the Four Archangels have twice created societies based on deep classist principles against His wishes. Satan is loyal to the principles of Law, not necessarily to Him, Merkabah is half crazy but has a firmer grasp on Law's tenets, Mastema ping-pongs between a selfish jackass and a genuinely helpful Guardian Angel, the Ancient of Days is merely a killing machine, Kuzuryuu was created without a will, the Demiurge is obsessed with sealing all human souls in the physical universe, and He no longer bothers to try to track Samael's allegiances. His sole actual link to the Pantheon and Speaker of His Will is Metatron, but the Voice cannot be everywhere at once.
  • The ascension of YHVH and Lucifer to the Main House caused quite an uproar, especially considering their most recent crimes. Officially, the reason YHVH was finally let in was due to him being an Overdeity and the fact he is the Anthropomorphic Personification of a character alignment. To be truthful, it was due to the ascent of Lucifer: Dream wants to keep a close eye on the fallen angel after he actually managed to bring down a Main House deity, an act originally thought utterly impossible. So he allowed Lucifer in under the pretense of needing to maintain the balance between him and YHVH. The Great Will ate it right up. Lucifer didn't.
  • One of the few gods to tell Mr. Rogers where to stick it (not in those exact words, perhaps, but still). While YHVH is powerful in his own right, general consensus chalks the action up to YHVH's delusional inability to comprehend the fact that ANYONE could be stronger than him. Still, he did appreciate, however slightly, Rogers' willingness — nay, devotion — to help others.
  • At the end of the Pantheonic Rebellion, he was captured and sent to the Court of the Gods. Before his trial commenced, he was subjected to a Vigilante style No-Holds-Barred Beatdown. His formal punishment was to be split apart into multiple pieces, and cast back into his own universe with only quasi-deity power until he learned that law and good are not synonomous. Unfortunately, it didn't take. He realized that indeed, law and good are not the same, and declared that law was vastly more important. To everyone's horror, he regained his full power before everyone's eyes and proceeded to form the Grand Alliance of Law, cementing his place as an official member of the Alignment Incarnations and a huge threat in the Pantheon.
  • After the Pantheonic Rebellion, Etna hacked his title to better reflect his true nature on a metaphorical level (labeling him as a Demon). She had some time to laugh before Lamington appeared before her and warned her very sternly not to try such a reckless action again, lest she be marked as a target for more... imaginative punishments. He's willing to stick his neck a bit for her and distract the Great Will, but he's not going to save her should she keep her antics. Predictably, Etna blew him off. Moments later, she was struck with a curse that downgraded her to Level 1 and prevented her from both gaining experience and leveling up. It took her a lot of favors, quests and humiliation to get the curse broken, making her the laughingstock of the House. Even then, she had to level grind all the way back... at which point she was hit again with the curse, as a final spiteful gift. Due to Naoki Kashima preparing for his fight with Barbatos Goetia, it took Killia's intervention to break the curse a second time.
  • YHVH is still pissed off at Valvatorez and his allies for what they did to him at the end of Disgaea 4. In Disgaea 4, Valvatorez not only prevented YHVH from destroying earth, the netherworld and Celestia, thus saving the lives of billions of humans, demons and angels, but he also kicked YHVH's ass in an alternate ending where YHVH turned into four giant Mushrooms in an attempt to prevent Valvatorez from destroying his magic planet-destroying computer (no, seriously, that's really what happened).
  • Seeing the greater threat in man's actions against him, YHVH decided in a change of tactics and would correct mankind on a psychological level. By forcing his concept of Order into the collective unconsciousness, an avatar that bared his likeness was born, who would control the masses through rehabilitation or erase the failures on a metaphysical level.
    • Once he realized what had happened to Yaldabaoth he became enraged and has added the Phantom Thieves to his ever growing list of enemies, vowing to never let the entire group ascend, sparking yet another conflict between him and Lucifer.
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    Lucifer 
Lucifer, Creator of Chaos, Chairman of the Grand United Alliance of Chaos and Celestial Being of Polite Villains (Helel, the Lightbringer, Morningstar, Prince of Darkness, The Great Darkness, The Demon Lord, Louis Cypher, The Rebel King of Hell, The Lord of Nightmares, Golden Demon Lord, L-sama, LON)
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  • Overdeity of Chaos
  • Symbol: A pair of Angelic and Demonic Wings
  • Theme Music: Lord of the Netherworld, The Final Battle, Last Decision, VS Last and Lucifer
  • Alignment: Pure Chaos, which translates out to Chaotic Good or Chaotic Neutral for those who consider him an example to follow, and Chaotic Evil for those who disagree with him.
  • Portfolio: Louis Cypher, Bonus Bosses, Magnificent Bastardry, Absolute Destruction of Law, Superpowered Challenges, Crippling Attacks, Manipulative Bastards, Batman Gambits, Bishonens, Noble Demons, Challenging Ordinary People To Pursue Their Dreams, Utopia Justifies the Means, Lucifer Not Being Straight-Up Evil, being summoned by The Power of Friendship, Being a Mysterious Backer, The Unfettered, Might Makes Right, Ambiguously Evil.
  • Domains: Freedom, Chaos, Manipulation, Humanity, Power, Tests, Hope, Change, Ambition, Desire, Pride.
  • Allies: Beelzebub, Naoki Kashimanote , Asura, Yuuki Terumi, Raidou Kuzunoha the XIV, The Fiendsnote , Flynnnote Homura Akemi, Senator Steven Armstrong, Xenagos, Aleph, Tiamat (Shin Megami Tensei), Ten Commandments
  • Enemies: YHVH, Melkor, The Magical Girl Sisterhood, Satan, The Flood, Aslan
  • Humans to impress him: David Bowie, Shu Shirakawa, Kenshiro, Luka, Lina Inverse, Isaac
  • Secretly watching: Zero (Drakengard), Kouta Kazuraba
  • Conflicting Opinion: The Chaos Gods (Tzeentch, Khorne, Slaneesh, Nurgle), Discord
  • Uneasy Relations: Ren Amamiya and the Phantom Thieves of Hearts
  • He's highly secretive of exactly who he is, how he came into being, and his relations with YHVH and humanity. Some claim that he is indeed the fallen angel of Biblical legend. Other subscribe to the idea that like YHVH, he sprung from the hearts and minds of humans yearning for freedom. In any case, it was he who sparked the creation of the concept of Chaos itself, and he is very vocal on what he believes: a world with absolute freedom where all sentient beings are free to do as they please. He's utterly ruthless in his actions, but make no mistake: he, for good or bad, is with humanity all the way. Yes, he believes in a wild, savage world where power and freedom are the apex of life. But considering the alternative
  • Whatever you do, don't mistake him for Satan. You'll just piss both of them off. Lucifer simply had the misfortune of being given the same name that the Devil had back when he was an angel of the Lord (not YHVH, but the being he was based on). Better not ask about the fact that Lucifer was once Helel, YHVH's most beloved archangel, either.
  • Freely accepts that his most often-seen avatar owes much of its appearance to one of his favorite musicians, David Bowie.
  • Has a cordial relationship with the Chaos Gods, though he is a bit exasperated that they're stuck in the worst of their respective emotions instead of becoming entities of true Chaos and fully encompassing the entire spectrum of the emotions they are supposed to embody.
  • Has a similar relationship with Discord. Each respects the other's dedication to breaking up the sovereignty of the local Top God in favor of absolute Chaos, but Discord finds Lucifer's interest in humanity's potential boring while Lucifer finds Discord woefully under-motivated. Since Discord forged a bond with Fluttershy, however, Lucifer is cautiously optimistic that Discord may just learn what he's talking about yet. It's at least a first step.
  • On the other hand, he does not get along with Melkor at all since Melkor believes that Chaos should be all about causing infinite destruction and suffering for the sheer sake of it and sees humanity as nothing more than a mere plaything. Lucifer just sadly shakes his head and muses on "wasted potential".
    • Despite holding truly antagonistic feelings toward YHVH and Melkor, Lucifer has noted he doesn't feel the same way toward Cosmos: while he acknowledges her as an adversary and has no intention of losing the War of the Alliances to her, he respects her quite a bit, and has noted that if someone besides him absolutely had to be the winner of the War, he would much rather it be her than the others. After all, she too acknowledges the dignity of sentient beings and respects their right to freedom, while Melkor and YHVH are both, as he put it, "on a self-indulgent ego trip". Despite Lucifer's opinion toward her, Cosmos does not reciprocate; she holds nothing but disdain for the Great Darkness.
  • He's not entirely certain how he should feel about the newly ascended Luka, due to the fact that he's the boy's mother in the world he comes from. This makes most any gift-giving day awkward and has made him the butt of several jokes by his enemies. Still, the Lightbringer always manages to feel pride in his "son" for successfully slaying Ilias, YHVH's own Expy and has reserved a spot in the GUAC for him should he decide that he wants to join. This offer has also been extended to his wife Alice.
    • Similarly, there is also the matter of Lina Inverse, whose entire universe is actually spawned from the Sea of Chaos, the essence of Lucifer herself, who appears physically in that world as the Lord of Nightmares. On the one hand, Lucifer has wanted to destroy that world due to it spawning without the LON's consent. On the other hand, Lina is the only person in that world to have ever called upon Lucifer's power, and even though it backfired with Lina almost being possessed by it, her friend's determination to get her back impressed Lucifer enough to let her get out unscathed.
  • In his attempts to subvert any timeline where the future is determined by YHVH, he has experimented and manipulated others to see what potential futures there are. After many battles against him, he has come to the conclusion that Raidou Kuzunoha the XIV is the "spark" who can ensure that YHVH never has his way.
  • A very firm believer in the power of Humanity. However, he is also of the opinion that power and freedom are rewards to be seized/earned and not inalienable rights that can be taken for granted. This has caused some friction with Asura and is one of the major points against Lucifer.
  • Occasional ally of the Fiends. They are not obligated to obey his commands, but are more than willing to work with him if they feel their duty goes hand in hand with Lucifer's plans.
  • Seems to be on a bit of a Gender Bender streak as of late. He's also been noted to have put a bit more effort into his most recent alias's name and personality.
  • In contrast with the Great Will, Lucifer understands the concepts of Chaotic Evil and Lawful Good in comparison to his views — he simply has little use for such labels given he himself allows for no limits in his own desires. Despite committing some less-then-savory acts of his own, Lucifer ultimately seeks the best for humanity, and to guide as many as he can to a paradise of true freedom, with everyone given a chance to shape the world based solely on their own competence, without having to worry about being silenced by rules based on arbitrary, ultimately self-serving nonsense. Any form of law or structure are suffocating nuisances he eventually intends to dispense with, and if there are people too weak to survive in the world he dreams of, so be it.
  • Sick to death of people asking him if he plays the fiddle. For the record, he doesn't, and for a while couldn't for the life of him think of why people kept asking him such a frankly inane question. Eventually someone told him, and, to everyone's surprise, it quickly became a favorite song of his: the idea of a human beating him in a fiddle duel with nothing but his own skill, having the gall to call him a "son of a bitch" and saying he welcomes a rematch at any time was incredible. He still has no intention of learning to play the fiddle himself.
  • Summoned twice due to The Power of Friendship and representing free will against the Order of Yamato, Satan, and Ameno-Sagiri. Did we mention he defeated Satan with a hug? Kinda important thing to note. He is also the powerful Persona/Demon unlocked by the Seekers of Truth Judgement Arcana and Alcor's Fate.
  • Important: he's Chaos, not Evil, at least in this incarnation. That portfolio belongs to Nyarlathotep. That being said, don't think he's entirely benevolent, either. While he's not necessarily a Social Darwinist, he is The Unfettered and has been known to support (and act on) extremely Chaotic Evil acts and deities for the sake of his goals. There's a reason so many are wary of him and just how far he's willing to go. Case in point:
    • Was noticed observing Homura Akemi from afar, much to the worry of many in the Pantheon; when it comes to finding those with the potential to become powerful warriors of Chaos, Lucifer has proven to be an excellent judge of character. The Pantheon's fears were realized when Homura was spotted spending time with a blonde magical girl calling herself Louisa Ferre. The extent of Lucifer's involvement was shown in full when Homura betrayed Madoka at Lucifer's urging, kicking off an event known as the "Great Upheaval". Using a magatama she got from the Chaos Lord, Homura was able to gain the power she needed to make her strong enough to steal Madoka's own, overthrowing the Law of Cycles with the goal of taking Madoka off the front lines and out of danger. Judging by his previous actions, it is speculated that Lucifer is attempting to lure Homura further into the ways of Chaos, and turn her into yet another general in his war against YHVH. While he is pleased by his success, Homura's clear regret for her actions have given him cause to worry. He has tried to act as a grounding force for her in this regard, convincing her that what she did was a great kindness for Madoka and lending an ear to her worries.
      • When it became known that he was behind the "Great Upheaval", Lucifer quickly became one of the most reviled gods in the Pantheon. Most of the good-aligned gods declared that he has officially crossed the Moral Event Horizon in their eyes and are going to see that he is brought to account for it. The forces of The GUAG are currently gearing up for a showdown with him, especially the Magical Girl Sisterhood. He manipulated and twisted Homura's pure feelings of love for Madoka and in their eyes, that is absolutely unforgivable. The only issue is that even inconveniencing him is a rather difficult task, and by doing so, they risk the direct, undivided attention of the Great Will. And Lucifer just won't stop smiling…
      • When approached for comment, Lucifer posed a chilling question:
      • Declared that he actually felt a little bad for them upon learning more about Madoka's replacement.
      • These plans were recently put on hold: YHVH's recent actions, namely threatening to subject the defenseless Madoka to a Fate Worse than Death to prevent her from ever regaining her former glory, have taken precedence as an immediate threat. No one is sure if this was a fortuitous circumstance for Lucifer, or if he actively planned for it; either way, he is perfectly content to observe the conflict and intervene only to prevent it from cooling into a cold war.
  • Recently he also seems to have taken an interest in another girl, the Intoner Zero, who with some help from Lucifer ascended as the One-Woman Army goddess, despite strong opposition from a number of gods intent on depriving the Lightbringer of as much support as they could.
  • Has finally encountered someone capable of astounding even him, in Shu Shirakawa, who managed to temporally annihilate both his and the still absent YHVH's temples with his Neo Granzon upon his arrival in the Pantheon. Lucifer seems genuinely confused as to why a man of such utter unpredictability is choosing to oppose rather than side with him. Shu, for his part, claims that he finds any deity who manipulates others for their cause, be they Lawful or Chaotic, to be a great personal offense to him and promises to send him, the Great Will, Nyarlathotep, Melkor, the 4 Chaos Gods and anyone else he deems distasteful to the inescapable oblivion of going beyond the event horizon of a black hole, someday. This did not have the desired reaction; instead, Shu only received raucous applause from Lucifer - his goal is to free Humankind from the yoke of all Gods, not rule it! Should Shu manage to enact such a feat without harming the human spirit, Lucifer has agreed to go quietly into his can. Now the matter remains of proving this is possible…
  • Is entirely aware that the only reason he ascended was due to the Main House wanting to keep closer tabs on him.
  • Has taken an interest in Isaac after seeing that he ascended by suffocating himself in a toy chest, not only sending him to the Pantheon, but also giving him a devil form. He sees Isaac as a possible son he could adopt for him to teach his ways to. The Pantheon is not only freaking out at the idea of a powerful, evil Isaac with Lucifer's help, but also because the SCP Foundation want Isaac as well, and a potential fight may break out between the two.
  • Never one to lose tabs on YHVH's movements, Lucifer soon learned about his latest scheme and decided to throw his monkey wrench in more subtly. By granting just a sliver of his own power to the Phantom Thief "Joker", the power of his Persona swelled to create an impressive homage to a counterpart of Lucifer himself to trump Yaldabaoth.
    • Aftewards Lucifer was quite pleased and interested with the Phantom Thieves; despite not fully embracing Chaos, the Thieves were presented undeniably as the heroes of that story, and needless to say they were on his side, if only by proxy, earning his side more than a bit of favor from undecided deities. He cleverly maneuvered afterward to help ascend all of the Phantom Thieves, as while it wasn't clear whether they would ever join him or not, it would surely undermine the side of Law. This has sparked another conflict with YHVH, who had vowed to never let the Thieves into the Pantheon. More darkly, however, Lucifer has taken a special interest in Goro Akechi and his ideals, and is trying to figure out if he would be a good addition to the forces of Chaos.
    • While the Thieves and Akechi have all been ascended much to YHVH's dismay, Lucifer ultimately did not profit much from it, as the Thieves' leader noted the similarities between Lucifer and Akechi as well as his later alliance with Steve Armstrong as grounds enough to reject him. Despite this, Lucifer remains friendly toward the Thieves for standing opposed to absolute order and hopes that they will come around in due time.

The Philosophy Endorsers

    Aslan 
Aslan, God of Religious Metaphors (King Of Beasts, The Lion, The Lamb)
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  • Greater God
  • Symbol: A White Lamb...no, wait, a Lion...no wait, a lamb!
  • Alignment: Lawful Good
  • Portfolio: Messianic Archetypes, Talking Animals, Theories Involving Purgatory, Extremely Forthright Symbolism.
  • Domains: Animal, Glory, Good, Law.
  • Heralds: The Pevensie siblings (His chosen kings of Narnia)
  • Allies: The One Above All
  • Sure, there are other Jesus metaphors. Who did you think they worked for?
  • Scar nominally opposes Him and is said to be working to overthrow Him, but really... he knows he has no chance in Hell.
  • Leader of the Council of Nine.
  • Just shook his head in dismay upon learning about that trek to find Malachite's Hand and who dressed up as him.
  • Aslan has symphonized with Kevin Flynn and the unascended John Carter over their respective film franchises suffering Genre-Killer and having planned sequels cancelled just because Disney wasn't making enough money. In addition, Sly Cooper has stated that he's on the same boat, since his franchise is unlikely to ever get sequels, and he's stuck in Ancient Egypt.
  • Being a fantastic representation of Jesus Christ, Aslan can only "hate" evil and nothingness in themselves, whether it be personified as the Leaders of the Alliances that oppose peace, justice and universal kindness. In fact, Aslan has already predicted the ultimate triumph of Good, even before he was accepted in the Pantheon. Needless to say, YHVH, Melkor and Nekron were angry and confronted Aslan about it. He merely said.
    The nature of your defeat is quite simple: none of you respond to love. Lucifer can only understand freedom as a prize, not a right. YHVH responds only to things that can be weighed or measured. He imposes law, he doesn't nurture it. He appraises order; he doesn't bother to seek out its truth or meaning. And Melkor lives in a mirror; the world is nothing more to him than a reflection of himself. And Nekron... the world, to him, is a small animal, caught in a trap, to be tormented. His pleasure is the giving of pain, and from this he receives the same sense of fulfillment most people get from a kiss or an embrace. You're caricatures, all of you. Gods or not, you're caricatures. And this is why you are destined to lose.
    • For that speech, Lorien smiled and congratulated Aslan, while Jean-Luc Picard and the Enterprise crew delivered a standing ovation. Aslan was even accepted into the ranks of the Grand United Alliance of Good. Cosmos, aware of his reputation, offered to cede leadership of the Alliance to him, but Aslan replied, as he is too humble to be an active leader.
    • Much to the shock of those listening, however, Lucifer listened calmly and intently to his adivce. Much to their horror, he accepted Aslan's words, but gave a warning of his own.
    Lucifer: Indeed I do Aslan. For it was only through earning my right to freedom that humanity was able to be saved from our shared Creators YHVH grasp, even as I fell from heaven as the price. To say that one musn't earn ones freedom even when it is all but stripped away leaves one only with despair and complacency, as humans will give up to their freedom for false safety in societal order. Make no mistake, humans can have freedom, but for every individual that word has a different meaning, even one of order that humans strive for can be ideal so long as gods do not exist to choke the freedom in such a state. Yet there is two things you truly do misunderstand about me. Heed me well, to say I am a caricature incapable of responding to love is the same kind of mentality YHVH, Nekron, and Melkor have. For if I did not respond to Love I could not conceive my many children with their human mothers and fathers, nor create one by myself, and if I did not know of the love of Friendship I could not be summoned and incarnated in forms when heroes have needed aid through the bonds of their friends. I am contradiction incarnate, I am mankinds eternal protector, and it's eternal adversary. I will save humans when they need it, and I will be struck down when humans need it. That is my nature.

    Diana of Themyscira/Wonder Woman 
Diana of Themiscyra, Goddess of Truth (Wonder Woman, Diana Prince, Champion of the Amazons, Amazing Amazon, God of War, The God Killer)
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  • Theme Song: Oh, you know which one... but also Is She With You? and Wonder Woman's Wrath
  • Greater Goddess
  • Symbol: The Double Letter W, or the Golden Eagle.
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: Action Girls, All-Loving Heroines, Boobs of Steel, Being the Army of One Woman, Being More Deadly Than the Male and Lacking a No-Kill Policy, Social Experts, Leotard of Power, Good Is Not Soft, Being a Friend to All Living Things, Ambadassadors, Lightning Bruisers, Amazonian Beauties, Statuesque Stunners, Being Bad at Lying
  • Domains: Truth, War, Good, Nobility, Feminism
  • Allies:
  • Enemies: Darkseid, Kratos, High Councilor Kal-El/Regime Superman, Ares, Khorne, Both Hades, Amatsu-Mikaboshi, Koko Hekmatyar, Sundowner, Apollyon, Akasha the Queen of Pain, Bandos, Kiara Sesshouin, Queen Cersei Lannister
  • Complicated Relationship with: Barbara Ann Minerva/Cheetah (she sees Barbara as a cursed and misguided friend, but to Barbara they're enemies)
  • Respected by: Mega Man X, Bardock
  • The Goddess of Truth, Diana of Themyscira, better known as Wonder Woman, is the owner of the Lasso of Truth, an artifact with the ability to force people to tell the truth. Those who try to resist will experience incredible pain. Even without her lasso, anybody in Diana's presence is more honest then they normally would be.
  • Diana's origins are a bit harder to determine nowadays. Once thought to have been molded out of clay by her mother Hippolyta, it was revealed that that was just a lie to cover up that she was actually the daughter of Zeus. Others say that she may be the byproduct of her mother and Hercules. There are even those who believe that Hades could be her father in one way or another. If all of this isn't confusing enough, Diana at one point ended up on a fake version of Themyscira, its Amazons, her mother, and even the Olympian Gods. She also learned that it's been years since she was last in her true home after leaving its shores. This shocking revelation was so disheartening that she ended up in a mental hospital.
  • Wonder Woman has a good relationship with fellow DC heroine Supergirl. Supergirl respects Wonder Woman for being the first female super-hero, and Diana values Kara because she is one of the strongest women in the planet and uses her powers for good (even if Diana thinks the young Kryptonian needs guidance, counsel and warrior training). Both women have enjoyed many adventures together and fought hand-in-hand.
  • Has had trysts with both Superman and Batman. The former was retconned out of continuity, while the latter didn't pan out due to Bruce being too commited to his role as Batman. She still remains good friends as co-founder of the Justice League.
  • When Diana first saw Usagi Tsukino, her first thought was how cute the moon princess was. The feeling was mutual as Usagi thought the Amazon Princess was beautiful. The two superheroines have spent considerable time together while complementing the others' attributes ever since.
  • Recently she learned about another person who embodies the concept of truth. To her surprise, that person was actually a pony named Applejack. She didn't dwell on that for very long once she got to know the apple farmer, realizing that they share many things in common like being strong, determined females who are loyal to their friends and family. Also, they are experts in the lasso.
  • Diana once found out that she has a villainous equivalent self in an alternate universe where Superman is a tyrant and reigns with an iron hand. However, Diana traveled to said universe and defeated her villainous Regime self and now she's training better to avoid becoming a villainess, especially upon hearing that said Evil Counterpart has only gotten worse.
  • Initially had a very hard time getting used to seeing Hercules as a boisterous yet virtuous fighter, thanks to the one in her universe being power-hungry, scheming, and at one time ravaging Themiscyra as Hippolyta's conqueror and rapist — and a few moments of contrite atonement in between those many acts. It's gotten easier with time as she's seen how much nicer, if still boisterous, he is. Not only that, any sexual advances he does pursue are done with the utmost respect.
  • Many have wondered whether or not Diana "bats for both teams". While she has been in relationships with men, she did grow up on an island populated with only just females. Not to mention her strong chemistry with other females — heroes and villains alike. As it turns out, she was quite the lady killer back home.
  • Many have questioned why someone who could fly would own a jet plane, much less an invisible one. There was also confusion on the Invisible Jet being invisible while leaving its occupants visible which made it look even more useless. That technical flaw was fixed. Diana does justify its use by saying she only uses it on espionage missions or when she wants to transport others around the world.
    • Another aspect of hers that many question is her costume. Why would a society of females rooted in Greek mythology have a uniform based on the United States flag? Were they somehow updated on the countries of man's world enough to know which nation would be an ideal entry point? Was it the flag that was instead based on Diana's uniform? Or were the two designs just similarly inspired? Whatever the case, just don't question the overall design of her suit.
  • Some scientists have been trying to discover the secret to Wonder Woman's skill in deflecting bullets with her bracers. They argue that speed and reaction time isn't enough; she'd have to be knowledgeable enough in ballistic trajectories to ensure that every bullet she's deflecting doesn't end up breaking into shrapnel, or — if it does — break in a way that would not harm her or anyone behind.
  • Has a very interesting contrasting duality of being an advocate of peace and love yet also a fierce warrior. One day she's defending the rights of people and the next she's driving her sword into a demon's head. Not helping matters is that she is seen by some to be too violent compared to Superman and Batman. And some will never let her live down how she killed Maxwell Lord. Despite these criticisms, Diana won't apologize for who she is and will continue to help others. This earns her the respect of Mega Man X.
  • Always the champion for equal rights of all genders, Diana opposes anyone who would dare revoke them. Regardless of whether those opposers are men or women.
  • Has nothing but respect for Peggy Carter for being a capable woman during a time when females hardly got the respect they deserve. Through her friendship with her she became friends with Steve Rogers, a fellow hero who fought in a World War. The three find it chilling that during the World War they all knew a Steve who sacrificed themselves in the act of taking down a plane containing deadly weapons in their respective universes.
    • Related to Steve Trevor, whenever Captain Kirk goes on covert missions using his younger avatar, Diana feels compelled to go along.
  • Many Gods had a good chuckle when she teamed up with the Powerpuff Girls and Bubbles mentioned they hoped to be as "well developed" as her. This caused the Amazon to be slightly embarrassed and to cross her arms around her chest area.
  • Has gained followers amongst some members of the Adepta Sororitas who look up to the Amazon and her strength. Diana has welcomed them with open arms and has been training them in the Amazon ways.
  • Diana is often considered one of the most beautiful super-heroines in her own universe. This has garnered her many admirers in the Pantheon, particularly Johnny Bravo who used his standard pick up lines. Not really flattered, yet at the same time not wanting to hurt him, the Amazon used her Lasso of Truth to restrain him. It also revealed a very embarrassing secret.
  • Diana has mentioned she has a bit of a kinky side to herself as she enjoys bondage play. Considering the way she handles her Lasso, nobody is surprised. She became friends with both Ally and Lisa who are also into safe bondage practice.
  • One of Diana's most admirable traits, but also her most fatal flaw, is her determination. While her spirit will never break and continue to fight, her body is another story, as it will give out at a certain point. Bardock credits her for having the fighting spirit of a Saiyan, but given the difference between how his kind used that fighting spirit in the past versus how many of them use it now, she's not sure how to take that.
  • One of the few deities to have actually dealt with battling true Gods. Her most frequent opponent is Ares, the God of War. The two have clashed multiple times in the past and continue to do so in the Pantheon. Ares isn't the only evil Greek God Diana has battled as she fought with both Hades at one point. And while she never fought them, Diana has become enemies to other evil true Gods like Amatsu-Mikaboshi and Bandos. There are those who believe that Diana could kill them as she is a true God Killer.
  • Diana has the special position of being Athena's own Personal Champion that she calls on to handle missions dealing with the Gods. Diana was surprised to learn that her Patron Goddess had a daughter in Annabeth Chase. She warmed up to the Demigoddess very easy since she was a fierce fighter. She also took a shine to Percy Jackson as a fellow warrior.
    • Diana has made more allies of these types like the angel Pit whose Goddess, Palutena, reminds her of Athena, if a bit more playful. She also allied herself with Bell Cranel whose Goddess was Hestia, though she was perplexed with the way he described her.
  • Many were surprised to learn that both Diana and Xena don't have the best standing relationship. Many thought they would make great allies since they are both such fierce warrior women. Many even remark how the two even sound alike. The bad blood centers on Xena being responsible for the Deaths of the Olympian Gods.
  • Analysis of Wonder Woman's sword showed that it's potentially more awesome than thought, given that it's stated to be capable of carving the electrons off an atom. It's even capable of harming Superman.
  • Has become good friends with the Crystal Gems. She is helping them with combat training, moral support, and overcoming past grief.
    • When she had Steven grasp the Lasso of Truth as she held it, Diana found a kindred spirit: one with a near-boundless sense of love and value of truth. But she found something more as she probed the depths of his being; the former life of Rose Quartz. Or rather, Pink Diamond, the youngest of one of four gem overlords, who faked her death in a rebellion she masterminded to spare the planet Earth. This half-Diamond parentage of Steven's, and conflict with the other Diamonds reminded Diana of her own divine parentage and tribulations dealing with her half-brother Ares. Diana was impressed with how Steven managed to solve everything diplomatically, as, in spite of being less reticent towards killing than Batman or Superman, she would rather redeem even her worst opponents. She sympathizes with the Gems' grief over all the secrets kept by Rose/Pink Diamond which caused much collateral damage.
    • Connie was awestruck at the sight of Diana, and wanted some fencing lessons and for her to sign some of her comics, all of which Diana graciously obliged.
    • Even having handily defeated all of the Gems, she finds them impressive at what they do, and admires the love they have for one another, particularly Garnet and her components, Ruby and Sapphire. She has taken it upon herself to convince Amethyst not to be so hard on herself regarding her origin, or being an imperfect quartz, and letting Pearl know that even without Rose Quartz, she will never be alone as long as she has her fellow Gems. She has given Steven lessons in shielding as well and trained him with the Lasso of Truth. At one point, she encouraged the Gems to fuse and show off their moves. And then something interesting happened: when Steven still had the Lasso in hand, he and Amethyst fused into Smoky Quartz and did a triple lasso lariat. Upon realizing, and then getting a little mischievous, Quartz ensnared the nearby Peridot, Lapis Lazuli and Pearl, followed by each of them uttering rather uncomfortable secrets about mutual attractions. Pearl, coming back to, yelled at Quartz to apologize to Diana for using her tool in such an indecent manner. Amethyst immediately de-fused and repeatedly apologized to Diana, who just laughed the whole thing off. Diana had an idea, and invited the Gems along with Connie and Steven to Thermyscira. Hippolyta and the other Amazons were initially skeptical, but Diana managed to convince them their missions were practically one and the same. Diana was able to convince the Gods to make a special lasso for Steven, though that may take an indefinite amount of time. The Crystal Gems have been welcomed as Honorary Amazons, and they frequently visit for combat and revelry, and also in Connie's case, study.

    Oda Nobunaga 
Oda Nobunaga, God of Revolutions Above 'Good' Traditions (Dairoku Tenmaou (Demon King of the Sixth Heaven), Demon Archer, Berserker, Avenger, Nobu, Demon King Nobunaga, Kippoushi, King of Innovation, Feuding States Revolutionary)
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Demon Archer 
Berserker 
Avenger 
  • Theme Song: Destiny
  • Intermediate God (occasionally becomes Goddess due to mishaps)
  • Symbol: The crest of Oda clan with muskets crossed on it.
  • Alignment: Lawful Neutral (though due to his brutality, often seen as and self-admitted Lawful Evil)
  • Portfolio: Magnificent Bastardry, Warring States, Pragmatism, Blowing Things Up With Fire, Being "The Fool of Owari", Actually A Hypercompetent Bastard Beneath Brazen Bravado, Revolutionizing Things Without Care About Good Ol' Traditions, Getting Portrayed As Villains or Demon, Bringer of the End of Honorable Samurai Duel In War, Well-Intentioned Extremist, Evil Cannot Comprehend Good, Bi the Way
  • Domains: War, Philosophy, Combat
  • Allies: Cao Cao, Satsuki Kiryuin, Ryu Hayabusa, Kanji Tatsumi, Okita Souji
  • Special Relations: Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Tokugawa Ieyasu, Akechi Mitsuhide, Sanada Yukimura, Honda Tadakatsu, Sanada Nobuyuki and Inahime, Chosokabe Motochika, Mouri Motonari, Gracia, Miyamoto Musashi, Shimazu Toyohisa, Azai Nagamasa, Oichi
  • Herald: Dwarves, Elves, Humans, and members of the Oda Clan
  • Rivals: The Demonic Oda Nobunaga
  • Enemies: Kiara Sesshouin, Fortinbras
  • Previously just an offspring of a minor warlord that became known as 'The Fool of Owari' due to his antics unbefitting of a Samurai, Nobunaga made himself known in the times of war due to a surprise victory against the Imagawa forces when outnumbered heavily. This eventually continued where he utilized foreign muskets to eventually decimate the feared Takeda Cavalry, thereby signaling the end of the era of 'Samurai Fought in Honorable Duels', war was revolutionized. Nobunaga's tendencies to keep seeking innovations in how to win wars instead of being bound by tradition eventually became the cause of his ascension...
    • Or so we would say had it not been another infamous figure of Nobunaga who embodied the one aspect that he was so feared that people thought he's a demon, to the point it almost eclipsed his other positive traits. Nobunaga found a loophole in the terms that this demon version of him has diverged quite enough while he still had a lot up to his sleeve to be represented in the Pantheon. Protests that there has been no Sengoku figures that has two versions between the two realms having TWO portfolios were raised, because it was not the usual thing, but Nobunaga didn't give a damn, that was the way he lived his life, if he didn't follow, he might as well let the Imagawa trample his clan. And so, much to everyone's surprise, Nobunaga repeated his feats at Okehazama against the Demon!Nobunaga, claiming his house in an unprecedented move. Henceforth, the two Nobunagas became rivals, though if anything, Nobunaga thinks his demon version is...amusing.
  • With his ascension, there has been rumor if Nobunaga would initiate a call to arms to those originated from his realm to fight for supremacy against those from the alternate Nobunaga time. His response? "Is that so? An interesting proposal..." followed by an ominous chuckle, but he has yet to take any direct action about it.
  • As per his historical-self when it comes to countering detractors ("is that so?"), Nobunaga has a knack to counter-troll anyone that attempts to Troll him, and then irritate them with "I forgive you" (via allowing them to get away with what they want as much as they fail to actually succeed). Clearly they were hoping that he would just cut their head off for daring to do that, but of course, Nobunaga here is different than that demonic Nobunaga. That doesn't mean that he's gotten a lot more heroic, though. If it fits his vision, he'll sadistically burn his oppositions to death. The thing at Mt. Hiei? He'll do it remorselessly if he had to. He's a lot more complicated.
  • Due to his own rather weird and unpredictable personality and the multiple versions of the Sengoku Period deities within the Pantheon, it's rather hard to say how Nobunaga feels towards his compatriots from the same realm. And that includes his sister.
  • He has renewed his alliance with Cao Cao, just like he did when everyone was fighting against Orochi. Cao Cao himself has finally recognized that this is the Nobunaga he knew and trusted.
  • Though he's mostly appearing as the more complicated dark lord, there are times that Nobunaga, thanks to a certain mishap in his ascension or perhaps a battle with the demon Nobunaga, he ended up getting transformed into a little girl with a Napoleon complex. In this form, while she's still the same Nobunaga with visions towards innovation, she could get a bit comical since she's almost like Deadpool, sometimes not acknowledging fourth wall and getting meta. However, even Gods would be aware, since her muskets were said to be able to pierce through a God's divinity, the greater the rank, the worse the wound.
  • Nobunaga was very amused about this place called "Honnoji Academy." And that the council president there, Satsuki Kiryuin, for some reason reminded him of something...
  • Apparently he's also the guy who commissioned the whole Hayabusa clan in case of demonic shenanigans beyond what he could handle. This, in addition of assistance against Orochi, earned him the respect of Ryu Hayabusa.
  • When incarnated as his Drifter aspect, Oda revels in the brutality he did, but do not be fooled, the man is still very much human. He may not be able to see why people hated him for the awful things he did, but he has learned from his mistakes and prefers to serve as an advisor to someone others can respect. One case being Shimazu Toyohisa and their alliance of non-humans.
  • What does it mean to oppose Nobunaga? MOSTLY BAD THINGS.
  • As opposed to his demonic version, Nobunaga actually does not like Fortinbras at all. He's his own 'Demon King', he bows to no one, and really, the practice of thinking him as a super demon and simple embodiment of evil is getting rather outdated...
  • Lately, his famed blade of the Heshikiri Hasabe was brought into mind via its origins; Nobunaga still keeps the blade around at times, and is hoping that it can be sharped up a bit more for actual fatal blows rather than that one servant he happened to kill out of a tantrum. Nowadays though, though he may not show it, Nobunaga can show his fury if pushed hard enough....only it's so confusing to know how to really do so in the first place.
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    Keel Lorenz 
Keel Lorenz, God of Important Tertiary Characters and Divine Head of the Omniscient Council of Vagueness
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Winnie-the-Pooh holds an honorary seat here because of his contributions to philosophy through Pooh and the Philosophers and more famously, The Tao of Pooh. He's seen here every now and then, thinking and giving his own simple brand of wisdom while avoiding trouble. He's also been trying to get Piglet ascended because of his own contributions through the The Te of Piglet. And he succeeded.


Alternative Title(s): Philosophy Overdeities And Greater Gods, Philosophy Intermediate Gods, Philosophy Lesser Gods, Philosophy Demi Gods And Quasideities

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