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  • Common fan theories insinuate that Bonkers was created as a substitute for a Roger Rabbit cartoon that was never made due to legal and copyright issues surrounding Roger. Greg Weisman, who helped develop Bonkers and other other notable Disney shows, says that Bonkers was certainly inspired by Roger, but Disney never had any plans to make a Roger Rabbit cartoon at any point.
  • Avatar: The Last Airbender:
    • Jet is still alive — Jossed by Word of God.
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    • Smellerbee and Longshot died — Jossed by the sequel comic The Promise.
    • Suki is dead — Jossed by "The Boiling Rock".
    • Zuko's mother died in childbirth ("... I was lucky to be born.") — Jossed by "Zuko Alone".
  • The Legend of Korra:
    • Amon is Koh the Face Stealer, or a firebender who killed his parents (accidentally or otherwise). — Jossed by season one finale: Amon is a human waterbender, his abusive father died in different circumstances, and we don't know about his mother.
    • Any theories about the identity of Lin's father (Sokka, Satoru from the comics, etc.) were Jossed in "Operation Bei Fong," when it was revealed to be an unseen character named Kanto.
  • Dungeons & Dragons: All widely accepted Epileptic Trees jossed with the release of the script of the unaired finale. The kids did not die in a rollercoaster crash, they are not in Hell, and Dungeon Master is not Satan.
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  • During the first two seasons, the Transformers Animated fandom came up with a number of theories as to the isolated, motherless Sari's actual identity, the most popular being some variation of Sari actually being a robot or cyborg created by Professor Sumdac, possibly made by reverse-engineering Megatron. During the second season finale, Sari injured her elbow, revealing circuitry underneath her skin, which seemed to support this idea. However, while the theory was right about Sari's true nature, it wasn't entirely correct about her origins. Sari wasn't constructed by Sumdac or made from Megatron's parts, she was a technorganic protoform created by the Allspark using Sumdac's DNA. Also that Ironhide was The Mole, which came up in the first case because of a screwup involving faction symbols.
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  • Literally hundreds of Teen Titans fanfics about Terra's resurrection were written in the interim between the end of season two and the series finale "Things Change". When it was revealed that Terra is alive as a schoolgirl who may or may not remember everything that happened to her in season two, and just wants to live as a normal girl, 99.9% of these fanfics were Jossed. Fans were left with two choices for future Terra resurrection Fan Fic: write according to the new, official continuity, or ignore the last episode entirely and write Fix Fic about how Terra should have been resurrected.
  • A lot of fanfiction for The Secret Saturdays, depending on how tied it was to the potential endgame of the first season's plot, was Jossed when the season finale revealed that Zak is Kur. That's why he's able to communicate with cryptids in the first place.
  • Due to having so much Word of God around, this has happened many times in regard to Gargoyles on issues such as gargoyle customs and breeding habits, Elisa and Goliath's ability to reproduce, Lexington's sexuality, Katana's physical appearance, etc. Looking at older fanfics can sometimes be a very strange experience...
  • After seeing Captain Marvel appear in Justice League Unlimited, supporting Lex Luthor's presidential campaign, and then giving a bone chilling speech to his fellow leaguers, many fans of the show believed he would return as an unwitting tool of Luthor. This was jossed by...well, him not coming back.
  • Phineas and Ferb:
    • Due to the creators' refusal to discuss it, there are many theories regarding the whereabouts of the original parents of the characters, including the popular one that Doofenshmirtz is Phineas' father. In the episode "What Do it Do?" it was shown that Doof did go on one date with Linda Flynn, but they never went out again (although she supposedly was what convinced him to conquer the Tri-State Area). In a New York Times P&F panel, Dan and Jeff addressed one of those points, finally stating that, no, Doof is not Phineas' father.
    • Because of the show having an episode that depicted the show as being a universe where Marvel Comics characters coexisted and ending the same time as Secret Wars (2015) started, it was speculated on Fridge pages for both that the universe of the former was destroyed by the events of the latter. Milo Murphy's Law is confirmed to set in the same universe as Phineas and Ferb, showing that the universe is still around or at least among those restored by the Richards and Future Foundation kids.
    • A lot of Phineas & Isabella stories often treat Phineas as though he does have feelings for Isabella, but doesn't show them/is reluctant to. Then the Time Skip episode "Act Your Age" aired, revealing that, not only doesn't he develop official romantic feelings for her until they were in high school, he remained completely oblivious to her crush for a good 10 or so years.
  • Milo Murphy's Law, prior to its premiere, had the theory that Dr. Zone's actor Orton Mahlson was actually Melissa's dad with a Stage Name, and that Melissa is feigning her ignorance on both Orton and his TV show. This theory was predicated on the facial similarities between the two, much like with the Phineas and Doofenshmirtz example above. While technically Jossed when her dad shows up in "Worked Day", this didn't stop the theorists from abandoning it. Instead, they applied additional theories in order for it to make sense, to the point it can come across as Epileptic Trees. The theory was officially been denied by Word of God a few days before "Missing Milo" aired, which itself killed the theory by revealing the actor to be an elderly man in the present day.
    • Another theory that is commonly in conjunction with the above one is that Orton Mahlson is actually evil and desires to seize control over the world. This theory originated from the "We're Gonna Do It Again" music video to promote Milo Murphy's Law, in which "Evil Orton" shows up on a few sticky notes when the creators are in the writer's room. "Evil Orton" ends up referring to a pistachio tree monster, who poses as the character during the season 1 finale and season 2 opener, and acts as the Big Bad for both episodes.
    • Naturally, with both theories above also comes the theory that Melissa is actually evil, too, spawning from "Worked Day" when she liked to be Queen of the Universe, or a journalist. This also spawns the question whether she would still follow Orton, or choose Milo's side. Of course, with the theory of Orton being Melissa's dad being Jossed, this theory has become moot as well.
  • Steven Universe:
    • One popular theory was that Pearl used to belong to White Diamond, but it was jossed in "A Single Pale Rose". The episode revealed that she actually belonged to Pink Diamond.
    • Also jossed were the theories that Pearl or one of the Diamonds shattered Pink. No one did.
    • "Legs From Here to Homeworld" jossed the theory that White Diamond is a fusion between Blue, Yellow, and Pink Diamond, or just Blue and Yellow.
  • Fans swore Family Guy Presents: Laugh It Up, Fuzzball used Rotoscoping for certain scenes from the Star Wars movies, but the people who made it insisted they just were really precise about recreating the scenes.
  • KaBlam!. Word of God says that Henry and June are only like brother and sister and neither have feelings for each other in any direction, which breaks the fanon that's been going on since the show premiered.
  • In its twenty-plus years on the air, South Park has founded the time to joss a surprising number of fan theories:
    • After the episode "You're Getting Old" aired, which featured a lengthy exchange where Stan's parents decried the show's formulaic structure, indicated a desire for change, and seemed to divorce, lead to rampant speculation that series creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone were suffering from Creator Breakdown and were preparing to end the show. To make things more confusing, sources differed on whether or not the show had been renewed beyond the next seven episodes of the season. Trey and Matt appeared on The Daily Show shortly later to promote The Book of Mormon and denied being unhappy with the show. Indeed, the show has continued on for several seasons since, though the episode did lead a few years later to stretching the sitcom format.
    • Although given he is a fourth grader, fan theories about Cartman's sexuality have been prevalent for years, with the heavy Foe Yay between him and Kyle being a key component. Despite previous indications of attraction to women, it became popular fanon that he was fully homosexual, and season 19's "Tweek x Craig" cemented some level of attraction to men, seeming to confirm the theory... during the twentieth season, however, he had a multi-episode relationship with female classmate Heidi Turner (an Ascended Fanon pairing in its own right) which lead to very mixed reactions, as so many fans believed he was fully homosexual. That theory is mostly Jossed, but due to his age, some fans continue to believe his relationship with Heidi may be a cover for homosexuality.
    • The season 18 episode "The Cissy" may have been this for Cartman being transgender, as he pretended to be transgender to receive his own bathroom, and when this private status was threatened, seemed to drop the act entirely by the episode's end. Again, due to his young age, it's possible he may be transgendered yet, but it seems unlikely this could come to pass during the series.
    • Many theories existed during the fandom's first few years about the boys' beneath their hats, and indeed, the show wasn't sure — early scripts suggested Stan might have blonde hair, for example — but by season 5's "How To Eat With Your Butt", it was revealed that Stan had black hair, Cartman had brown hair, Kenny was a blonde, and that Kyle had a reddish brown "jewfro".
    • A much more minor example, but a brief line in "Fun With Veal" referred to South Park's Chief-of-Police, with Officer Barbrady later indicating he was in charge, suggesting he was the Chief-of-Police in the town, having been the only recurring cop until the end of the fourth season. As another police character, Detective Harrison Yates, was introduced, he and Barbrady were excluded almost completely from each others' episodes, and even implied to run different departments. (Barbrady as South Park Police, Yates as Park County) When the characters finally interacted at length, Yates appeared to be Barbrady's superior, and the latter was fired. Matt and Trey indicated on the commentary that this was intentional and they had "no idea" how the characters fit together.
    • Fanfics often portrayed Fan-Preferred Couple Tweek and Craig as getting together at some point in their high school years, and it wasn't entirely uncommon for Craig to be portrayed as a Bastard Boyfriend due to his Stoic and Jerkass tendencies, or for the couple to have a Slap-Slap-Kiss relationship. Both of these trends were jossed in "Tweek x Craig", where the two were became an Official Couple due to yaoi fanart, with the subsequent relationship being healthy and all-around affectionate with the only real conflict being a clash between Craig's logical nature and Tweek's emotional one in "Put It Down" and a temporary break-up and some light bickering in South Park: The Fractured but Whole, both of which they quickly recovered from.
  • Young Justice:
    • A hugely popular theory among fans was that The Flash would pull a Heroic Sacrifice in the Season 2 finale, acting as a nod to his death in Crisis on Infinite Earths. A Flash did indeed end up dying in this manner...except it was Kid Flash!
    • When the first season of the revivial, Outsiders aired, many people assumed that Nightwing's team, whom was followed in the first half, were the titular Outsiders. The second half revealed that this wasn't the case when Beast Boy founded the Outsiders.
    • Many had assumed that the final three episodes of the Outsiders season were a three-part finale, based on "Nevermore"'s synopsis mentioning things coming full circle with the Outsiders undoing the Justice League and the Team being under mind control much like the Team did for the League at the end of the first season. However, it turns out "Terminus"'s events were reversed in the episode immediately after it, "Into the Breach", and "Nevermore"'s "coming full circle" was ending the season how it began: a crisis in Markovia incited by Baron Bedlam.
  • Superjail!:
    • There were quite the fans that readily assumed that the season 3 premiere "Stingstress" would resolve the Ultraprison takeover in either having everyone fight it out, or that it would have the Warden and the Mistress become an Official Couple and triumph over the Lord Stingray/Mistress pairing. The reality? The episode was mostly built on a Time Skip from the end of season 2 showing the disastrous effects of an integrated jail with no real huge bloodbaths (aside from a brief bathroom brawl), and the Warden/Mistress expectations were sunk when the Warden had no clue how to have sex with the Mistress, leaving Alice to settle the matter instead.
    • The idea of Jailbot coming to save the day in the above mentioned episode was based off The Stinger to the season 2 finale that preceded it (Jailbot repairing himself and rushing back to the jail). However, it too was debunked when it was revealed that Jailbot did arrive back to the jail... just several months too late to do anything helpful, and he instantly got threatened by Nova.
    • Gary's increased prominence in season 3 led to lots of fan theories that he'd be the Big Bad for the finale, and that he was clearly up to something. Not such the case, especially with the plot of "Burn Stoolie Burn" being more about Warden and Ash ruining everything, although his vocal cords did wind up possessing the Peedee puppet in the episode BEFORE the finale, leading to another plot point to be resumed in season 4.
    • Due to the minor amount of continuity and follow-through in season 3 ("Stingstress" being a resolution to "Vacation", the Rat plot in "Uh Oh It's Magic" and "Planet Radio"), the ending of "The Trouble with Triples", rather than being taken as a simple Gainax Ending, had some amount of fans believing that it was another plot point to be resolved, what with the Twins being forcibly taken back to their world. Not quite the case when the Twins were back in the following episode. The writers even ridiculed the fans who thought it would actually be continued, pointing out that several endings were only meant as gags and never meant to be resolved. Although there is also the tease that due to said reactions, that it may be revisited in season 4 (with there already being speculation if the episode will be a Take That! to the fans that missed the point).
    • It was a bit of a meme to depict Lord Stingray as a yellow mutant creature when out of his suit, due to a roleplayer insisting on it being his real appearance. After "Stingstress" revealed him to be a human man (though without removing his mask, and Christy Karacas asking fans if they were really "sure" if he was human), "Beast Ray" died down a little, but is still seen in occasional fanworks.
  • TaleSpin. There are several episodes which do not include Higher For Hire or Kit, and are Baloo and Louie having adventures on their own. This led to a fan theory that these episodes were from an earlier version of the show, and Kit and Higher For Hire were added as retooling. note  However once things like the series bible and the episodes' production numbers became public, this was quickly squashed. In fact the very first episode written and produced was "I Only Have Ice For You", in which Rebecca tried to get her pilot's license, revolving heavily around Higher for Hire.
  • Looney Tunes. For a while, it was speculated among fans that the reason for the reviled pairing of Daffy Duck and Speedy Gonzales was that, in the mid-1960's (see: Fall of the Studio System), the moviegoing public was largely reduced to the American Southwest. Daffy and Speedy (along with Bugs Bunny) were the two most popular Looney Tunes characters there, so naturally Warner Brothers wanted to produce more cartoons with them. Meanwhile, due to budget constraints, it was decided that the most logical thing to do was to pair the two characters together. While the second half of this theory (that they were paired together for financial reasons) is correct, the first part was debunked by renowned animation historian Jerry Beck around 2005-ish. The reason why so many cartoons featuring the two characters were made was because television distributors were demanding more cartoons with them, not because of a segmented moviegoing audience.
  • Gravity Falls:
    • "Society of the Blind Eye" ended one of the most popular fan theories, with even a leaked image seemingly confirming that McGucket wrote the journals. He did not write the journals, but he was involved with the true author before he quit the project, and overused a mind eraser to forget the events, becoming insane. The leaked image in question turned out to be a deliberate hoax by the creator Alex Hirsch in order to discredit an even more popular fan theory that turned out to be right. (On a related note, it was revealed that one aspect that was part of both theories was incorrect, as Grunkle Stan was never involved with the original research team that worked on the portal.)
    • When fans of the show learned from the resume of Cecil Baldwin that he'd be voicing a character called Tad Strange, described only as "kind of a square" by Alex Hirsch (in-character as Bill Cipher) in a Reddit AMA, they immediately assumed that he'd be the brother to the demonic Big Bad, Bill Cipher. Cue fanart and fanfiction featuring a purple square with a bowler hat. In an interesting case of this trope, Alex Hirsch immediately tried to clarify that it was actually a gag character with no importance to the plot...but since this was after the event listed above, no one believed him. When the episode featuring the character finally aired, it turned out that Tad Strange was just a completely normal man who was only used for two jokes. Alex humorously recapped the entire incident a few weeks later.
      Alex Hirsch: That's the honest truth about Tad Strange. No one's going to believe me. You all probably think Tad Strange is still a secret, purple demon. Maybe he is...no, he's not. Why would I—it has nothing to do with me, it came from you!
  • In The Amazing World of Gumball, Penny was frequently depicted in fanart as a deer without her shell on due to her antlers. The Shell revealed she was actually a shapeshifting fairy like creature without it.
  • Archer:
    • An In-Universe example occurs where various characters claim throughout the series that Krieger is probably a clone of Adolf Hitler. In one Season 6 episode, he points out that he can't be a clone of Hitler because if he was, he would look like Hitler. Malory seems to have never considered this.
    • After the penultimate episode of Archer Dreamland ends with Trexler saying that Mother killed Woodhouse, fans thought that his reluctance meant that he was lying. Semi-Jossed, since while she didn't really kill Woodhouse, Trexler genuinely thought she did.
  • Star Wars Rebels: After Kanan was permanently blinded by Darth Maul in the Season 2 finale, some fans began to speculate that he was an Expy of Qu Rahn from Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, a character who no longer exists in the post-Disney buyout canon. Pablo Hidalgo confirmed that there is no connection between the two characters, and any similarities can be chalked up to the fact that they're both partially inspired by the iconic Japanese film hero Zatoichi.
  • The case of Volpina from Miraculous Ladybug is perhaps as bad (or amusing) as the previous Gravity Falls example. Months before her premiere in the show, the creators posted a teaser of her character design, which was cool enough to get instant fan love and a wealth of Fanon. Fans decided that she would be an older, more experienced Miraculous holder, that she'd be a playful trickster who'd serve as a Cool Big Sis to Cat Noir and Ladybug, and that she'd be bisexual and a big flirt with a non-serious crush on Marinette. When the character, named Lila, premiered in the show proper, she turned out to be almost the exact opposite — a selfish Consummate Liar Attention Whore who hates Ladybug and tries to manipulate Adrien into dating her. To add insult to injury, she wasn't a Miraculous holder at all, but just another akuma victim. The fandom was temporarily rather shattered by this development, although most admitted they only had their own ideas to blame. Season 2 did reveal that there is a Fox Miraculous, but it ended up going to Alya, not Lila.
  • A popular Simpsons fan theory insists that Homer never actually awoke from his coma at the end of "So It's Come to This: A Simpsons Clip Show" and that all subsequent episodes were All Just a Dream, thus explaining away the show's later continuity problems and changes in tone and characterization. This theory has been thoroughly debunked by executive producer Al Jean.
  • In Voltron: Legendary Defender, one wildly popular theory said that Keith was half Galra and Thace was his long-lost dad. The first part turned out to be true, but Keith's dad wasn't Thace, or even an alien at all.
  • The Loud House: Since the start of the show, there was a popular theory that Lincoln Loud is actually adopted. This theory found it's way into many fanfics, but was ultimately jossed by the episode "Not A Loud".
  • Gvien the Shared Universe that composes Ultimate Spider-Man, Avengers, Assemble!, Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H., and Guardians of the Galaxy (2015) has a well-known habit of just simply copying the Marvel Cinematic Universe (including overwriting existing characters with those closer to the MCU), when it was announced that White Wolf would appear in Avengers Assemble and Scott Porter was voicing him, it was believed that the show take after the MCU and have White Wolf be a Composite Character with Bucky Barnes as the character, as Porter voiced Barnes in Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite. However, as revealed by Porter on Twitter and confirmed in the show itself, it was one of the few times (like Abomination as a scaly, fin-eared Russian; Igor Drenkov not being Adapted Out; and in Guardians's case, J'son, not Ego, being Star-Lord's father), the series took a Truer to the Text approach and had White Wolf being T'Challa's adpoted brother, Hunter, like in the comics.

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