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The setting of the Flash's TV series

When comparing the Darker and Edgier setting of Central City with the Lighter and Softer Gotham City from Batman (1966), it just seems very jarring to me... as though Batman, given who he is, would fit better in Central City as portrayed here, while Flash would be a much better fit for Gotham City in that series. Or that the Flash TV executives wanted to play him as Batman (consider how Flash is treated as an Urban Legend the way Batman would be). And then looking at Flash's spotlight episode "Flash and Substance" in Justice League Unlimited, it gets even more jarring. Does anyone else find anything wrong with how Flash and his city were portrayed in the live-action series?

Is The Flash getting blacklisted for live-action filming in favor of other superheroes?

Consider this: Several times it was rumored that Ryan Reynolds would be in the starring role of a live-action movie for the Flash—but that has since been quashed, considering he's in the starring role in the soon-to-be-released Green Lantern movie. They keep flip-flopping over whether a Flash movie will be made... and meanwhile, Batman has had his movie series re-launched with the Dark Knight trilogy (the third movie is currently in production to be released in 2012), Superman has had one re-launch movie and another re-launch on the way, The Green Hornet has had a movie, several Marvel Comics characters have had movies in the last decade, Watchmen, V for Vendetta, not to mention the various animated DC Comics feature films...WHY IS FLASH GETTING THE CRAPPY END OF THE STICK?
  • In addition, observe this clip (which according to the summary was broadcast before a special advance trailer-screening of the Watchmen movie).
  • I think part of the problem is how do you play the Flash? First, which Flash would you choose: Jay, Barry, Wally, or Bart? Second, what would the plot be? Keep in mind the trend is a initial stand alone-able movie as a test run with two follow ups. There are other factors. Until Prof. Zoom began retconning Barry's past, all the Flashes except Bart led well-adjusted and "normal" lives for the most part. I can almost imagine any Flash and the Rogues living in the suburbs when not doing their theatrics. Though it could have potential to be an anti-Batman/Superman movie. One movie against the rogue(s). Another of the movies poking fun at movie reboots/retcons by going through with the Rebirth/Zoom retconning of Barry's past.
    • Movie 1: Something involving Prof. Zoom and Barry. Flash is already a hero. Jay and Wally are around. The exposition dump to inform non-fans of the essential backstory bits would be Thorne in the future. The first half of the movie deals Barry with accidentally ending up in the future, where he defeats Thorne, who is the evil/corrupted Flash of the 25th Century. Part two, Thorne becomes Professor Zoom and heads into the past. Movie ends with Barry killing Prof. Zoom.
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    • Movie 2: The Trial of Barry Allen; it ends with Barry's death to avoid/replace Infinite Crisis. The Rogues face off against Barry. Barry tries juggling the trial with keeping the city safe. Either intentionally or unintentionally, an explosion goes off. Said explosion may not need to be a literal explosion, but a MacGuffin to replicate the CMOA with a nuke event. Barry runs in and out trying to save everyone, but going that fast ends up getting him trapped in the Speed Force.
    • Movie 3 A: Return of Barry Allen Plot. Barry returns, but it is really Thorne suffering from Amnesia/Denial. Plays out in comics.
    • Movie 3 B: Rebirth, Prof. Zoom pulls Barry out of the Speed Force. His past is retconned by Prof. Zoom already. yada, yada.
    • The 3A route would be a Pirates of the Caribbean-style plot route. Barry to Wally as Jack Sparrow to Will. Wally is the centerpiece of the movies with him starting as a sidekick and moving up to overcoming his fear of replacing Barry. The 3B route is all about Barry Allen.
      • I and someone else had a debate about this and, when it comes down to it... A Flash Movie would be pretty damn boring after the initial speed trolling lulz died down. In the comics, the only reason there is still crime LEFT in the world was because Wally just didn't use his god like power to go stop all of it. Really, Superspeed is just to broken.
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    • These answers looked outdated but since the recent line-up of the DC Extended Universe showed that there will be a Flash movie after the Justice League movie, it might look good. Plus, the TV series (unrelated to DCCU but Geoff Johns teased about a potential multiverse) got a lot of good reception.

Are Barry and Ollie friends?

  • The New Guardians arc on Green Lantern revealed that while he is friends with Ollie publicly, Barry hates his guts and generally speaking, sees Ollie as a usurper who took over his role as Hal's best friend/filled Hal's head with a lot of "liberal" ideas about how society should work.
    • Not really - They'll put up with each other for Hal, but they don't get along. Notably, in Flash: Rebirth, Hal comments that he's glad that Barry didn't see him as Parallax whereas Ollie did, and Barry's response is effectively "Can't believe you're still friends with him."
    • And yet Flash is gonna be a recurring character in Green Arrow's show Arrow. This is gonna be good.

New 52 Kid Flash/Impulse

  • So... He doesn't want people to call him something like "Flash Jr." but calls himself Kid Flash? Am I the only one who thinks this is incredibly stupid, considering this is Bart and he had his own identity as Impulse before the reboot?
    • Maybe his problem with it is that they keep getting his name wrong.
      • No, he actually says in the second Teen Titans issue after Flashpoint that he's not "sidekicking" for the Flash because he didn't want to be called "Not Flash" or "Mini Flash," but he's already chosen the name Kid Flash by that point. Why didn't he just use the Impulse name, especially as he's not actually tied to the Flash in the New 52?

How does Jay Garrick's helmet stay on when he's running?

  • I can't believe I'm the first guy here to ask this.
    • I imagine it's for similar reasons to why their clothes don't burn up when they run, their "aura" extends to things the are in contact with (Which is why they generally don't leave huge craters where they step when they run, as well).

Who's the faster Flash: Barry or Wally?

  • Not sure if this is standard, but in at least one version Barry is explicitly faster.
    • Wally was stated to be faster than Barry in the pre-Flashpoint timeline, and this was acknowledged by Geoff Johns after he was called on it when Barry returned & another character commented how the crime rate increased in Barry's absence.
  • In the comics, Wally is definitively and unarguably faster. Usually in adaptations, they will have slightly different powers (in Young Justice, for example, Barry was capable of starting and stopping on a dime, while Wally had to build up and slow down like an actual runner). This has its origins in the comics, where Wally has powers that Barry never discovered, such as the ability to steal speed from other people and objects (slowing them down while speeding himself up) and leave "bombs" of Speed Force energy in his wake. Meanwhile, Barry has the ability to vibrate himself through solid objects (approximating intangibility), powers that Wally was never able to replicate. In terms of pure speed, however, Wally has vastly outclassed Barry for well over twenty–five years real time, ever since The Return of Barry Allen.

Since when is changing time impossible?

  • Why does the Flash think altering history is impossible? Multiple bad futures have been negated, a number of Crises have changed things big time(especially one Barry played a big part in) and the general Continuity Snarl that is the DC Universe. Heck, Linda Park was never born for some time!
    • Probably just doesn't wanna screw with the timeline any more than it already has been. Flashpoint was a mistake, a result of his attempt to save his mom. Can't blame him for that.
    • Time travel (to past at least) has been off-limits for The Flash since Hunter Zolomon's crippling.

Did Wally forget about his kids?

  • During DC Rebirth and Titans Rebirth, Wally laments that Linda no longer remembers him and how he has to start his relationship over. However, did he completely forget that Iris and Jai no longer exist? He makes no mention of them. He doesn't even mourn for them. You would think their lack of existence gives him an even bigger reason to make Linda remember him or give him even more drive to restart their relationship but no.
    • He states at one point that, when Barry pulled him out, he lost a lot of his most recent memory of things, as every time the Speed Force pulled him back in when he was trying to escape he kept losing parts of himself. So no, Wally doesn't remember them, which is going to be a huge Tear Jerker moment when he finally does (possibly as the crux of the Flash War storyline).

How does he get his costume back into the ring?

  • Kinda surprised this hasn't been asked. I just got into the Flash (via a Silver Age collection) but I haven't seen a story that explains this. Or was it just never explained?
    • Nevermind, just read a story that mentioned it—apparently there's just a second button that sucks the suit in while spraying it with shrinking gas.
    • Other writers have also stated that they didn't; they'd just make a new suit. Let's remember Barry Allen wasn't very liberal and didn't care too much about one-use waste.

Why doesn't The Flash wear a full-head helmet?

  • What's the in-universe reason, given the reason for the rest of the suit is that it's to help protect his body from friction at unfathomable velocities? Shouldn't his helmet then extend over his face to protect that as well?
    • The "suit protects from friction" is more to avoid his clothing being damaged, not himself; wearing loose clothes would likely burn up from running but by wearing something skin-tight and frictionless it helps him move without starting a fire. He's already protected by a speed aura; when that's damaged, it's shown the suit burns up. As for why he doesn't cover his face, it's a trust thing. People are more likely to trust a hero who they can look in the eye and see their expressions (see how distrusted Spider-Man is for an example why full-face covering is a problem for some people), so in the heat of the moment when he's rescuing someone, they're more likely to trust them.

Why isn't cold used more?

I've been talking with people a bit recently who seem to think Captain Cold is a joke villain, because they're unaware that cold is the Flash's token Kryptonite Factor ('coldness' is caused by molecules moving slower, so by hitting the Flash with coldness, it robs their speed and makes them slower). But this isn't just an isolated thing; I'm pretty sure I'm the one who had to add the Flash's entry onto that trope page, as well as to Logical Weakness and other Kryptonite/weakness-related pages. Essentially, a lot of fans (especially those who are more a fan of general DC instead of specifically following the Flash) are unaware of the fact the Flash is highly vulnerable to cold. This isn't something invented recently, even in the Silver Age it was shown a lucky shot from Captain Cold could potentially kill the Flash.My question is, why wasn't this exploited more? Not that this is a bad thing, it certainly stops all the commotion given about Superman's Kryptonite weakness, Green Lantern's vulnerability to wood/yellow, Martian Manhunter's fire phobia, etc. But it's odd that writers haven't exploited this more, and I feel as a result it's why the Flash gets dissed for being OP and why the CW series relies so much on the Idiot Ball. Especially since writers have clearly wanted to have a weakness they can use, the food weakness from early post-Crisis and later the 'run too fast and enter the speed force' thing, but they seem to just forget they have one.


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