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** Maybe he requested to be anonymous at first.

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** Maybe he requested to be anonymous credited anonymously at first.
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** Maybe Norman was planning to talk a new board out of it, or perhaps not so subtly threaten them.

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** Maybe Norman was planning to talk a new board out of it, or perhaps [[ShameIfSomethingHappened not so subtly threaten them.them]].
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** Maybe he requested to be anonymous at first.
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* The Goblin attacks the Daily Bugle and threatens Jameson because he wants to know who Spider-Man's photographer is. Wouldn't he just have to read the fine print? One would think the Bugle is legally obligated to credit Peter for his photos, and the third film ''does'' credit Eddie for his fake photo right under the picture.
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** Maybe Norman was planning to talk a new board out of it, or perhaps not so subtly threaten them.
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* Would killing the board really stop the sale of Oscorp? Won't the shareholders just vote for a new board with the same agenda?
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** Most likely. Peter was so socially awkward and lacked so much self-confidence as his normal self that he probably saw himself as a complete nobody towards Mary Jane. At most someone she knows, but that's about it. And when you lack confidence in yourself to that extent, you often times also manage to convince yourself that that's just how it is, and the world around you is like it too. Which often times causes you to not realize how obvious your feelings towards a girl/guy actually are to those around you. You assume that because you feel detached from that person yourself, people around you won't attach you and them together either, even in terms of noticing you like them. To put it simply, Peter probably assumed that no one actually realized Because in his head, he was the last person anyone would even think to associate with MJ.

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** Most likely. Peter was so socially awkward and lacked so much self-confidence as his normal self that he probably saw himself as a complete nobody towards Mary Jane. At most someone she knows, but that's about it. And when you lack confidence in yourself to that extent, you often times also manage to convince yourself that that's just how it is, and the world around you is like it too. Which often times causes you to not realize how obvious your feelings towards a girl/guy actually are to those around you. You assume that because you feel detached from that person yourself, people around you won't attach you and them together either, even in terms of noticing you like them. To put it simply, Peter probably assumed that no one actually realized Because because in his head, he was the last person anyone would even think to associate with MJ.
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* Additionally, Norman walking out is immediately followed by a tense argument between him and Harry regarding Mary Jane, which may have seemed more important to him. The focus, as it were, would be less "hmm, Norman just left suspiciously after seeing the wound the Green Goblin gave me" and more "my best friend's dad called the girl I'm crushing on a gold digger, my best friend apparently thinks that's not important because he has an apparent raging inferiority complex and really low self-esteem, and then they all walked out on Thanksgiving." The whole "balancing my personal life and being Spider-Man" thing is somewhat of a theme.

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* ** Additionally, Norman walking out is immediately followed by a tense argument between him and Harry regarding Mary Jane, which may have seemed more important to him.Peter. The focus, as it were, would be less "hmm, Norman just left suspiciously after seeing the wound the Green Goblin gave me" and more "my best friend's dad called the girl I'm crushing on a gold digger, my best friend apparently thinks that's not important because he has an apparent raging inferiority complex and really low self-esteem, and then they all walked out on Thanksgiving." The whole "balancing my personal life and being Spider-Man" thing is somewhat of a theme.
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* Additionally, Norman walking out is immediately followed by a tense argument between him and Harry regarding Mary Jane, which may have seemed more important to him. The focus, as it were, would be less "hmm, Norman just left suspiciously after seeing the wound the Green Goblin gave me" and more "my best friend's dad called the girl I'm crushing on a gold digger, my best friend apparently thinks that's not important because he has an apparent raging inferiority complex and really low self-esteem, and then they all walked out on Thanksgiving." The whole "balancing my personal life and being Spider-Man" thing is somewhat of a theme.
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** It's literally a laboratory of Norman's company. It would be more suspicious if the cops ''didn't'' find any fingerprints of him in the room.
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** It's entirely possible that Peter already had some odd factor in his DNA which the spider bite interacted with. Maybe he's a one-in-a-million kind of guy who's ''capable'' of getting powers from a spider bite.
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** "No vital organs" isn't going to mean much if the glider's blades severed his inferior vena cava or one of the common iliac arteries, which would've been fatal even with immediate surgical intervention. Hell, if it'd sliced his abdominal aorta, he wouldn't even have had managed any last words.
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** The big celebration earlier in the film may have been intended to be followed up with fireworks, which are generally shot off over the harbor in NYC. Possibly the Goblin's attack on the event led to the fireworks show being postponed to a later night, and the children (who were dressed like a kiddie sports team, not Girl Scouts) were taking the skyway to have a good view? That would also explain why so many pedestrians were on the bridge at that hour, to throw things at the Goblin: they'd come to watch the show from the bridge.

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** The big celebration World Unity Festival earlier in the film may have been intended to be followed up with fireworks, which are generally shot off over the harbor in NYC. Possibly the Goblin's attack on the event led to the caused its fireworks show being to be postponed to a later night, and the children (who were dressed like a kiddie sports team, not Girl Scouts) were taking the skyway to have a good view? That would also explain why so many pedestrians were on the bridge at that hour, to throw things at the Goblin: they'd come to watch the show display from the bridge.
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** The big celebration earlier in the film may have been intended to be followed up with fireworks, which are generally shot off over the harbor in NYC. Possibly the Goblin's attack on the event led to the fireworks show being postponed to a later night, and the children (who were dressed like a kiddie sports team, not Girl Scouts) were taking the skyway to have a good view? That would also explain why so many pedestrians were on the bridge at that hour, to throw things at the Goblin: they'd come to watch the show from the bridge.
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** Peter is an orphan and a teenager - possibly even a minor, if he's ever skipped a grade - and Ben's death left Aunt May as his only guardian. The Goblin can't mess with Peter if winds up living out-of-state with some distant cousin's family.

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** Peter is an orphan and a teenager - possibly even a minor, if he's ever skipped a grade - and Ben's death left Aunt May as his only guardian. The Goblin can't mess with Peter if he winds up living out-of-state with some distant cousin's family.
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** Peter is an orphan and a minor, and Ben's death left Aunt May as his only guardian. The Goblin can't mess with Peter if he's sent out-of-state to live with some distant cousin's family.

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** Peter is an orphan and a teenager - possibly even a minor, if he's ever skipped a grade - and Ben's death left Aunt May as his only guardian. The Goblin can't mess with Peter if he's sent winds up living out-of-state to live with some distant cousin's family.
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** Peter's also been so tongue-tied and bashful in [=MJ=]'s presence, up to then, that she may not recognize his speech because Spider-Man sounds more ''confident'' than the boy next door ever has, at least to her. Having a mask on brings out a side of Peter that he's never had the nerve to show Mary Jane.
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** It wouldn't even have to be that specific. For all she knew, Spidey might just have asked "Who's the redhead?" in passing, having seen Peter in her vicinity and being curious about the girl he'd encountered. It's well established in the press that Spider-Man sometimes people-watches from roofs and walls, if only to spot crimes in progress.
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** Peter is an orphan and a minor, and Ben's death left Aunt May as his only guardian. The Goblin can't mess with Peter if he's sent out-of-state to live with some distant cousin's family.
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* Spider-Man's origin story. Originally it was a radioactive spider-bite, which makes no sense but at least this explains why it doesn't happen again, because it was a freak accident and the spider probably died from the radiation shortly afterward. But the movies changed it to a "genetically-engineered" spider. This means that someone or someones ''designed'' that spider to give superpowers. Surely this plot point should have come up again? Maybe one of the scientists that worked on the spider gets a little suspicious once a spider-powered superhero starts making headlines? Tries to duplicate the results? No?

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* Spider-Man's origin story. Originally it was a radioactive spider-bite, which makes no sense but at least this explains why it doesn't happen again, because it was a freak accident and the spider probably died from the radiation shortly afterward. But the movies changed it to a "genetically-engineered" spider. This means that someone or someones ''designed'' that spider to give superpowers. Surely this plot point should have come up again? Maybe one of the scientists that worked on the spider gets a little suspicious once a spider-powered superhero starts making headlines? Tries to duplicate the results? No?




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** Possibly the spider in question had been slated to be bred soon to produce another generation of hybrids, and its body (venom included) was saturated with plasmids or catalysts to ensure its eggs bore the desired traits. No one else got superpowers because these things didn't linger in its system long enough for it to bite anyone else.
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*** Harry also already had reason to resent Spider Man at least a little, since Mary Jane's crush on him was the first crack in their relationship.
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** Additionally, even if it's true Bonesaw wasn't trying to hurt him (he was) Spidey Sense isn't a magical power that can tell people's intentions. If it looks like a threat and acts like a threat and actually hurts, his Spidey Sense should have picked up on it.
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*** Actually, MJ starts to suspect in the end after her and Peter's second kiss.
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** Did it happen only some hours later? I thought there was more of a passage of time, at least days if not weeks. Anyway, not only does wearing a mask alter your voice even somewhat, the biggest thing is context. Peter has had mutually calm, level conversations with his best friend's dad and mild-mannered CEO Norman Osborn. Spider-Man has fought the maniacally laughing, taunting, and threatening Green Goblin, who's a public and violent murderer wearing a green suit and flying around on a hi-tech glider. Why would Peter have any reason to connect them?
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** He was out of range of the blast.
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* In the climax of the first movie, what the hell are girl scouts doing on a field trip to Roosevelt Island at one o'clock in the morning?

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* In the climax of the first movie, what the hell are girl scouts Girl Scouts doing on a field trip to Roosevelt Island at one o'clock in the morning?



** It's been a while since I saw the movie, but did Harry know that Norman was the Green Goblin in this movie? Or was it only at the end of Spider-Man 2 when he found out? If not, he probably assumed Spider-Man stabbed him. As for why he'd assume Spider-Man would do that, well he woke up to find his father dead. I doubt he's going to think 100% rationally.

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** It's been a while since I saw the movie, but did Harry know that Norman was the Green Goblin in this movie? Or was it only at the end of Spider-Man 2 ''Spider-Man 2'' when he found out? If not, he probably assumed Spider-Man stabbed him. As for why he'd assume Spider-Man would do that, well he woke up to find his father dead. I doubt he's going to think 100% rationally.



*** Except that there's no motive, and also no precedent for thinking that Spider-man is a murderer, even with JJ's exaggerated libel. Harry didn't know yet that his father was the Goblin, so if spider-man is the murderer, it would appear that he just randomly murdered Norman for no reason whatsoever, when he has never demonstrated that tendency in the past. It would make much more sense for Harry to conclude that Spider-man just "knows something" about Norman's death that he's hiding or at worst that spider-man was indirectly responsible for his death in some way (like maybe Norman was a bystander caught in one of Spidey's battles), rather than jumping straight to the conclusion that spider-man committed murder.

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*** Except that there's no motive, and also no precedent for thinking that Spider-man Spider-Man is a murderer, even with JJ's exaggerated libel. Harry didn't know yet that his father was the Goblin, so if spider-man is the murderer, it would appear that he just randomly murdered Norman for no reason whatsoever, when he has never demonstrated that tendency in the past. It would make much more sense for Harry to conclude that Spider-man Spider-Man just "knows something" about Norman's death that he's hiding or at worst that spider-man Spider-Man was indirectly responsible for his death in some way (like maybe Norman was a bystander caught in one of Spidey's battles), rather than jumping straight to the conclusion that spider-man Spider-Man committed murder.



* How wasn't Harry killed when the disintegrating pumpkin bomb killed the board of directors.

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* How wasn't Harry killed when the disintegrating pumpkin bomb killed the board of directors.
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** I thought he just hit the board hard enough to knock himself out. Not particularly consistent with later power levels but justified by RuleOfFunny.

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** I also thought he just hit the board hard enough to knock himself out. Not particularly consistent with later power levels but justified by RuleOfFunny.
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** One of the side effects of the gas was explicitly given as "insanity." The plan not making sense is probably because he's just that nuts.




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** I thought he just hit the board hard enough to knock himself out. Not particularly consistent with later power levels but justified by RuleOfFunny.
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* How come Peter never suspected that Norman was the Goblin after the latter saw that "bike messenger" wound and left in a hurry? Especially since this is, in-universe, some hours before Goblin terrorizes Aunt May and makes the enmity personal. Unless ClarkKenting is in full force here (which it could be, as unlike the Goblin, Spidey doesn't change his voice at all when in costume), it's surreal that nobody, especially Peter, never put the two together.

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* How come Peter never suspected that Norman was the Goblin after the latter saw that "bike messenger" wound and left in a hurry? Especially since this is, in-universe, some hours before Goblin terrorizes Aunt May and makes the enmity personal. Unless ClarkKenting is in full force here (which it could be, as unlike the Goblin, Spidey doesn't change his voice at all when in costume), costume and yet nobody deduces either person's identity), it's surreal that nobody, especially Peter, never even started to put the two together.

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