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  • The thing that bugs me most about this film is that, to me, the only reason it rained rocks was for the sake of that one Singin' in the Rain joke with Rover. Plus, how does it happen? Do they live near a constantly-erupting volcano? And why hasn't their town been completely buried by now?
    • I must agree.
    • I had nightmares due to that shout out.
    • According to the Fridge page, it might be a result of Planet 51's ring.
    • The town hasn't been buried because workers clean it up, as shown near the beginning.
  • Rover decides to stay with one of the aliens. I'm sure Captain Baker's going to get raked over the coals for not bringing that expensive probe home.
    • Probably not—how many multi-million-dollar probes have we left on distant planets before?
    • It was already considered lost, probably, since it had been, for an unspecified time, stored in the aliens secret warehouse. Remember it was already there, and had transmitted info about the planet being barren, before the astronaut arrived.
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    • Pretty sure bringing a genuine alien lifeform to Earth trumps the loss of an expendable probe.
  • The lack of pants thing for the male aliens just raised a whole lotta awkward questions about their biology. Made even more awkward by the cork joke, during which Skiff gestured towards where his ass would be... if he were HUMAN, that is. If the location is the same, why the hell aren't they wearing pants?
    • Maybe they don't have a taboo against wearing pants.
  • So, if the aliens have 8 fingers on both hands, they would probably evolve to use base 8 (so digits are 0..7); there would be no "Base 9", nor would they have a word or symbol for any single digit past 7, anymore than we have special words or symbols for hex digits beyond 9. (9 in their system would be 11.)
    • Maybe they use hand AND feet for counting, and have a base 16 system.
    • Or they could have 11 if you count each part of the four fingers (3 sections to 3 fingers and 2 on the thumb). There was an ancient Arab tribe which used a similar counting system to get base 12.
    • Or its base ten, eight fingers and two antenna.
    • I thought mathematics was supposed to be one of those universal constants that all intelligent life in the universe, no matter who, what or where they are, were capable of understanding and translating (and was included as such on certain "contact" missions that we've sent "out there") it shouldn't matter what type of designation they're using for the numbers if we both understand each other. Why not get upset over the fact that they know how to speak modern English instead?
      • Or that they've apparently bred a domesticated, tame Ridley Scott's Alien *puppy*?!!?!?
      • Besides, both earthlings Bugs and Mickey (among many others) both have only eight fingers and nobody has ever asked why *they* don't use a different numbering system.
      • I think, too, that the assumption that numbers are connected to evolution is flawed. They're more properly an intellectual development and subject to wide change and variation...*especially* when it comes to the terms we use to describe the actual concrete ideas; case in point, both Eleven and Twelve are basically functionally included as part of the original set(even though their etymology suggests that they were connected with post-Ten sets), with our clocks, months, dozens, grosses, Imperial Feet, etc. all using a base of 12. Also, Imperial Pounds uses a base of 16 oz. and I know that the indigenous language of the people I'm descended from traditionally used a grouping system of 20 instead of ten, so numbers can actually be quite fluid for how universal they are.
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    • Besides, are you suggesting that we have a Base 10 numbering system based on us having ten fingers, or a Base 9 numbering system based on 10 having two digits? Because "Ten" itself *IS* a "special word or symbol" designating itself and itself alone, and not denoting "Nine plus One" or anything else in the manner that "Eleven" denotes "One Remaining(After Ten)" the hexadeicmal argument for "no numbers past 7(or 9)" is sort of wrong, imo(or at the very least, confusing).
      • Also, the concept and usage of Zero(as in the example of digits 0-7 for a Base 8 numbering system) here on planet Earth came way later than you'd have expected it to(again, with the native language referenced above only designating a term for "Zero" meaning "nothing" sometime in this millenium) and almost shouldn't be considered part of the basic numbering's more of a higher mathematical calculation concept than anything, along with negative numbers, multiplication, division, etc.

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