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Clash of the Titans (2010)

  • How did Perseus know that lifting his sword at that moment would cause it to get struck by lightning for some reason? And why does throwing the sword at Hades apparently trap him in the Under World again?
    • He didn't. Throwing the sword was the most logical attack. What else could Perseus have done in that situation? Leaped off the cliff and try punching Hades? Second point is Rule of Cool, as apparently the lightning of Zeus can do whatever the plot requires, it's the manifestation of a god's power after all.
    • This troper thought that since they showed the lightning earlier and since he thrust his sword upwards before throwing it, that Zeus was watching and had enough power left to at least throw a lightning attack, thus Perseus lifted the sword up to say "Target This for the Win!" and threw it, Zeus aiming the strongest lightning bolt he could at the sword to help damage Hades...Father and Son working together. Which , combined with Hades being drastically weakened by the Kraken's death, might also explain Hades going back to hell, from the power of a god and demigod combined.
  • The people of Argos are the ones who invoked Hades wrath by desecrating the statue of Zeus. Persus' family was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Shouldn't he be more pissed at them, than trying to help them?
    • This is Hades, depicted as the most malevolent of the gods in the movie. As he said, he regards humans as the dust beneath his fingernails. "Oh, there are some more humans over there in that boat." is like "More cockroaches to squash." Unlike the other gods, Hades doesn't need to have considerations for the feelings of mortals. He alone doesn't need their love. All they have to do is feed him their death and fear.
    • I think the OP was asking why PERSEUS wasn't more pissed with the people of Argos, since it could be said it was their fault his family got caught up in Hades's attack.
  • What was up with the owl thing? No really. It just came out of nowhere.
    • The owl was the annoying wacky talking robot animal sidekick in the 1980s film. Viewers of the 1980s film had mixed reactions to it.
    • Bubo's a bit of a No Respect Guy, he preformed many genuinely awesome and heroic things in the film. But some have mistaken him for a useless Kid-Appeal Character.
  • Since Perseus is a demigod, would he become more powerful if people began to worship him?
    • That wasn't usually the deal with demigods, though it may have been what Zeus was offering him. As an Olympian, the prayers of mortals might have given him immortality/powers/full godhood. It still might. Personally, I figure he's like a Dhampir: he might not get stronger with worship, but he won't keel over if people don't know who he is, or even start despairing/hating him.
  • So, uh, why did Zeus help Perseus at all? He was clearly on board with Hades' plan up until Hades come right out and explains how it's going to screw Zeus. There doesn't seem to be any reason to give aid to the person who is going out of his way to stop your return to power.
    • For all of Zeus' faults, he always felt at least a small degree of affection and concern for his children, i.e. granting Artemis her wishes to be young and unmarried forever and saving Dionysis by sewing him inside of his thigh so he could be born.
    • Having watched the deleted scenes on the DVD, it seems that the plot used to make more sense. The sword, the Pegasus and even the coin for Charon were originally going to be done by Apollo, who had seen through Hades and so was finding a way to stop him without pissing off daddy. Then all those scenes got cut. I honestly can't think why.
      • It probably made the "Sucky stupid bad gods! Take your magical sword and your immortal girlfriend and fly off on your winged horse to promote atheism!" overtones of the movie too Anvilicious to take.
  • "Don't look at her face." Followed by "Oh that's her stomach, let me continue looking up, up, oh crap." Then "Oh no, he's stone I guess I shouldn't look at her, ooh pretty oh crap" Then "Let them know men did this, with their eyes open when I could easily close them." Seriously, they were trained soldiers.
    • Advice is easy to give and acknowledge when you're safe and sound and planning things out but harder to remember and follow when you've got a cackling murderous snake-woman right in front of you.
  • When Hades told the entire kingdom that the Kraken would arrive in x-amount of days to destroy their city...he didn't say they couldn't leave. So why the hell did the entire city of people just sit around waiting for the Kraken to kill them all? They had plenty of time to relocate. Even if there were no towns nearby, they would still have had enough time to find a new place to build a temporary home and not be smashed to pieces by a giant angry fish thing.
    • Relocation was not really an option. Even if they fled the gods could have still killed them by sending a plague. They would have had to leave most of their supplies behind making them vulnerable to death or enslavement by another city-state. No other city-state would have let them in their borders due to fear of the gods.
  • The Djinn was immune to Medusa's gaze because he was not a man. But a tentacled monstrosity like the Kraken takes one look at her and turns to stone?
    • That's not the reason. Medusa can petrify only living beings, and given that Suleiman is made of wood, he is not technically alive. He is like a walking piece of furniture to her.
    • The three hags spell it out explicitly: Medusa's gaze petrifies everything made of flesh, not wood and charcoal.

Wrath of the Titans (2012)

  • Zeus kept talking about how gods were losing power without man's prayer. In the climax, he and Hades are among hundreds of troops. Why didn't anyone bother to pray to the both of them so they would be more powerful as they fought Kronos? It would've probably have helped prevent Zeus's death. Then again, if I were him, I'd want to get the hell out of this movie franchise too...
    • The soldiers are only about hundreds to a thousand, it's nothing compared to 6 billion population of the world, even if they prayed they'd only give Zeus one extra spark of bolt. And besides, soldiers praying in a battlefield with a volcano giant rampaging? That's just dumb.
      • I understand what you're getting at, but I guess my bigger problem is that they never establish just how much power a god can get from any given number of people. If you're saying that only a thousand men praying wouldn't make much of a difference, that's perfectly acceptable, but they never say that in the film. Plus, you don't have to stop what you're doing to pray—the soldiers could have prayed as they fought, unless there's some special rules involved with praying in their culture, which, again, was never established. The film just leaves so many things to be guessed at.
      • If they didn't need to stop fighting to pray, who's to say many of them weren't actually praying during the battle? Maybe without them Zeus and Hades wouldn't have survived so long.
      • There weren't anywhere near six billion people around in the era when the films were set, and the vast majority of the world's population at the time worshiped other pantheons and had no clue who Zeus was. Several hundred soldiers praying at once probably should have been enough to make a difference.
      • The real reason is that the filmmakers knew it would've contradicted the pro-atheism overtones they're trying to convey.
  • Why is Andromeda blonde in the sequel? Did they have hair dye back then? Honestly, getting a new actress makes sense but having her be blonde but still the same character from the previous movie is really confusing.
    • Why is she even white in the first place? In the original myth, she was from freaking Ethiopia (which in case you didn't know is in sub-Saharan Africa)!
      • Ethiopia, the real-world modern country, is indeed in sub-Saharan Africa, but the mythological kingdom of Ethiopia, home of Andromeda, didn't have a clear location. Some classical myths placed it in North Africa, others in modern Israel, and artistic representations of Andie through the centuries have depicted her as white.
      • The term Aethiopia, as a generic or ethnic designation, comprises the people who dwelt above the equator, between the Atlantic ocean and the Indian ocean; the term Aethiopian refer to all the "sun-burnt" races, so designated from their being of a darker hue than their immediate Hellenic neighbours. The word Aithiops is derived from the two Greek words, from αἴθω + ὤψ (aitho “I burn” + ops “face”); translating as Burnt-face in noun form and red-brown in adjectival form, as a reference to the light-to-dark red-brown skin tones of the North Africans, Middle Easterners and Indians. The ancient Greeks called Persians, Romans, Phoenicians, Scythians, Egyptians – all barbarians. They weren't fond of foreigners, so it's unlikely that the woman who (in one account) helped found Mycenae was a foreigner as Palestine had been a region where Greeks had settled. Moreover, the idea of Andromeda as a Princess living in Aethiopia only began after the Greeks had been inhabiting the Near Eastern region.
      • Ancient myths outright state that she was white. In Heliodorus’ tale the “Aethiopica” a white-skinned girl is born despite having black parents; to make a really long story short it’s revealed at the end of the tale that the girl was born white because her mother had gazed upon the image of Andromeda while she was pregnant. A single black spot on the girl’s elbow confirms the story. In Philostratus’ Imagines, Andromeda is described as “The maiden is charming in that she is fair of skin though in Aethiopia, and charming is the very beauty of her form; she would surpass a Lydian girl in daintiness, an Attic girl in stateliness, a Spartan in sturdiness.” Philostratus later mentions that the inhabitants of Aethiopia had ’strange coloring'. Ovid in his Metamorphosis mentions that Perseus initially mistook her for a marble statue until he realized that it was actually a young woman. Manilius in his Poetica Astronomica describes Andromeda as ‘nivea cervice’ meaning white-throated.
  • So Perseus claims that he didn't want to leave his son behind when Zeus came to him asking for help to bargain with Hades in the Underworld. Okay, I get that but...Zeus is the most knowledgeable deity in the world. Couldn't Perseus just have asked Zeus to hide his son in a secret place that no one knows about while he went with them to Tartarus? Even without all of his powers, Zeus would have found a place to hide the boy that would keep him safe.
  • How in blue blazes did Ares figure out that Helius made the wooden dagger and then deduce who Helius was and where he'd be in the village amidst all the chaos at the climax of the film? The Willing Suspension of Disbelief pretty much shattered for me at that point.
    • In the beginning of the film, Ares mocked Perseus for going fishing while the world is in danger, so Ares probably knows a considerable information about Perseus life, the wooden dagger only gives him the idea to bring Helius to watch Persus death, it's still a mystery how come he knows where Helius is though.
    • How did he know? Ares is a god after all, and gods are often attributed with senses and abilities beyond the mortal kin.
  • How did Io die? I thought she was a demi-god. She should have lived as long as Perseus, unless Zeus brought her back as a human woman and just didn't say that at the end of the first film. But that still doesn't excuse them from not explaining how or why she died even if she were human.
  • In the end of Wrath, Perseus seems to kill Cronos with the Spear of Atrium. If Cronos indeed died with it, you gotta wonder, why did Zeus, Poseidon and Hades not kill him with it when, you know, he was imprisoned? And in that very fight, if Cronos' shockwave punches was so powerful as to get Zeus near-killed in two hits, why didn't he, you know, lead with that?
    • An in-story reason might be the gods did not trust each other enough to give up their personal weapons or wanted Cronos to suffer. The real reason like many of the plot holes in the remake and its sequal is Plot Induced Stupidity (that or to keep up the pro-atheism subtext).
  • It's understandable that humans would lose interest in praying to deities that had long track-records of being complete dicks to mortals, particularly after Perseus demonstrated how someone who rejects their worship can still kick Kraken ass. But why would those divine figures that didn't have such a bad relationship with mortals, like most of the goddesses or the umpteen-million petty household and nature deities, die out as well? What did the likes of Hermes or Demeter ever do to alienate humanity?
    • It was just a poorly thought out idea. How did the Titans survive without mortals to worship them? How did the gods win the war without mortal prayers to strengthen them? If Athena in a fit of pique could create Medusa and its head defeat the Kraken why were the Titans and gods scared of it? Why did the Olympians not create new worshippers or build it into humans that humans had to worship them? Why are mortals rebelling against the gods and not their own rulers who come across as dicks as well?
      • Most likely a decision on the part of the filmmakers that can be summed up in three words; Pro-atheism agenda.


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