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  • What exactly was so difficult in explaining the situation with Iago? "He saved my life. I know he was a bastard, and probably still is, but I owe him, so I'm asking you to spare him in return." BAM, done.
    • Aladdin panicking and everyone else's general extreme dislike of Iago probably had something to do with that not being so simple.
    • Also, it was at the point in the series where Aladdin still had the flaw of not being able to trust people and rely more on trickery and deceit. He did spend most of his life as a criminal after all.

  • Why is Jafar holding the Villain Ball so tightly? He forces Abis Mal to take him to Agrabah and puts him through all sorts of abuse, but at no point until the very end does he consider bullying him into setting him free- had he done so at the very start, he could have been free to torture and kill Aladdin and his friends at his leisure, but instead he delays his ultimate goal until it was too late. Revenge Before Reason sure, but that was particularly dumb and plot alone prevented it. And heck, even if he couldn't or wouldn't do that, he was still so vastly powerful that he could have made Aladdin suffer or put him out of the picture without resorting either to murder or this convoluted manipulative scheme- just turn them all to living stone or something, or break every bone in their bodies, then set yourself free, if that's what does it for you.
    • Considering what happened to him the last time he seized on the 'easy' option, he may have decided that it would be better to wait and think over what kind of third wish he should make Abis Mal wish to ensure his freedom.

  • Is there an official explanation as to why Genie Jafar is stronger than Genie? I've seen a lot of supposition (freed genies have less power than enslaved ones, Jafar stacked his Sorcerer wish onto the Genie one). But has Disney said anything on the subject?
    • Because, int he first movie, Jafar didn't just wish to become a genie, he explicitly wished to become the most powerful genie. Even imprisoned in the lamp, his wish still holds true, especially since the Blue Genie remarks that his own powers appear to have taken a slight dip after becoming free.

  • Why does Genie have bracelets? Isn't he free?
    • Because he thinks they're cool. He explains in an episode of the TV series, "The only thing I'm a slave to is fashion." Sometimes a bracelet is just a cigar ... er ...
    • Genie might be free-lancing, in effect he became his own master, (and therefore also his own slave). This lets him still be a proper genie and magically help out Aladdin but on a purely voluntary basis.
    • After wearing them for so long, Genie is uncomfortable without them. Do you wear a watch regularly enough that you don't feel quite right if you're not? Same principle.
      • Or like taping up your wrists before a tennis match. Magic might be more focused by using the bracelets.
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    • The animators thought he looked weird without them.
      • He did.
    • For deflecting bullets. Also, as a reminder of his former captivity... genie law stipulated that he'd lose his powers if he allowed a man to bind them.
    • Simply because Genie likes wearing them even though he no longer has to. It's just like how in the series he still lives inside the lamp even though now he's no longer forced to, it's just something that he finds comfortable.
    • A wilder theory is that since his bracelets are what linked him to his lamp in the first place, wearing them anyway but solely on his own accord helps him get more magical powers. Since his powers are now "semi-phenomenal nearly cosmic" and being bound to the lamp makes his powers "phenomenal cosmic", wearing his bracelets helps stay linked to the lamp (I've always questioned where it was in this movie, maybe in his back pocket) to prevent further diminishing powers. He could still take them off and disconnect himself from his lamp if he ever wanted, but that could also downgrade his powers further.

  • Near the end, Abis Mal refuses to free Jafar so he could instead spend his third wish on treasure. Jafar ends up conjuring some, which Abis Mal pretty astutely suspects to be illusional, and as villains quarrel heroes get a shot at Jafar's lamp. What buggers me is that how in the world could Abis Mal neglect the fact that he currently resided in THE SULTAN'S PALACE!!! Which just happened to house THE (appropriately) SULTAN'S TREASURY!!! Come on, that must be like a pipe dream of every thief in the world. And he had it right beneath his feet and apparently never even bothered to peep inside. Well, even he did chose that moment to grip the Idiot Ball even tighter than usual, how come Jafar (who used to LIVE in the palace) didn't think of that opportunity?
    • Given that Jafar always wanted to be Sultan, he probably wasn't keen on emptying what was potentially going to be his own treasure chambers (the fact that he could easily get more was beside the point; it was his) — and Abis Mal was just smart enough to realize that stealing from an angry genie probably wasn't the best idea.
      • But as a Genie he then had cosmic powers! Control over matter and energy and the very fibre of existence! Why would he still be preoccupied with such puny down-to-earth affair as gold? Not to say that he only needed to convince Abys-Mal to free him and then he could just take it all away. Perhaps he wanted to astound Abis Mal with the sight of treasures appearing out of thin air?
    • Consider that you just asked how could Abis Mal be that stupid and realise that you have just answered your own question- Abis Mal is an idiot.

  • Jafar in general. Isn't there quite a lot for a Genie, that he undertakes on his own accord and powers he uses without even an excuse of his master's wish?
    • Moreover, he spares Aladdin's life in the waterfall, because there are "things much worse then mere death". Indeed, there are, but Jafar's idea of those seems rather confusing and surprisingly not evil. So, Aladdin gets falsely accused of murder by Razoul who hated him anyway. Big deal. Then he gets sentenced to death by "Jasmine" which is a big deal or would be if Jafar didn't blow his cover right before the oncoming execution. And...that's it? Jafar wouldn't torture his friends in front of him, he wouldn't have Aladdin killed in a slow and painful manner, he wouldn't even stay and witness the destruction of his nemesis in person and gloat? Why is he suddenly all Dr. Evil?
      • Finally, wouldn't his actions in the Final Battle classify as a murder attempt? Making a person drown in lava could in no way be get around with his usual "surprised what you can live through" mantra. And since Carpet is sentient didn't Jafar technically murder it?
      • Genies cannot kill, directly. All he did was change Carpet into something very brittle and gravity did the rest. Like Eden said, Genies can't kill anyone but they can make it's ridiculously easy for other things to do it for them.
      • It doesn't seem like Carpet actually died at any point. Genies can't kill, and can't bring the dead back to life, but Carpet is flying around happily as you please after the spell is broken and he's back to normal — so he probably wasn't dead in the first place. It seems to take more to kill a magic carpet than just breaking it into pieces.
      • also, keep in mind he unraveled the carpet in the last film as a sorcerer and not bound to the "no kill" rule, and the carpet still revived after his defeat.
      • There is nothing to suggest that Genies can't bring the dead back to life, at least in some fashion. Genie specifically mentions in the first movie that it's not a pretty picture, he doesn't like doing it. That's not the way you describe something you CAN'T do, that's the way you describe something you WON'T do.
      • To answer the gloating part, I assume it's because Jafar IS just that nasty. If Aladdin had died at the waterfalls, he wouldn't have known it was Jafar. Just sort of a final mocking bit, I guess. Plus, the image of Jafar's face on Jasmine's body is pretty gross.
      • The setup for Aladdin's execution was not just to make him die, but to make him die with a dishonorable image. Think about it.. End of first movie Aladdin thwarts Jafars tyrany over Agrabah and is hailed a hero. Now he's being convicted of murdering the sultan and put to death. Going from hero to trator in just a few weeks/months is Jafars way to screw with Aladdin's reputation.
      • I always thought that the rules were that powerful that they warped reality to keep themselves from being broken.
      • Jafar spends the entire movie bending the genie rules rather than outright breaking them. Ultimately the lava would have worked, otherwise Iago dropping Jafar's lamp into a bunch of lava he conjured up wouldn't have done anything as it would have been tantamount to suicide and thus against the rules. Jafar is using technicalities to try to kill the protagonists and get free of the lamp, the lava and freezing Carpet were just a part of that.
    • And speaking of which, at what point did Jafar kidnap Jasmine and how did he do it? We already saw how he nabbed the Sultan, Genie, and Abu, then how did he do the same for Jasmine in order to take her place?

  • Why isn't Abis Mal apprehended in the end?
    • Because he's the villain's goofy sidekick, and the standard contract for them includes a "get away scot-free at the end of the movie" clause. Little-known fact.
      • Also, no one knew he was still in the garden hanging from the tree. I assume he later scampered off, sans pants.

  • During the Final Battle Iago sweeps at the lamp, snatches it and then attempts to pass it to Aladdin so he could drop it into lava that...surrounded them all. Uh? Why the hell did Iago go for a precise drop, when he could just topple the lamp into lava right away, exactly like he did later?! Yes, I know, the scene with a near-dead Iago kicking the lamp was intense, alright, but what was the point? Oh, and on the Jafar's part, I know he was an all-powerful and deranged Genie and all, but seriously, leaving his precious lamp lying on a tiny islet in the middle of a lava lake? WTF?! It's not like he couldn't just, you know, pick it up and take it away from danger!!!
    • Actually, it may very well be that he couldn't pick it up and take it away from danger. If you watch the movies, neither Genie nor Jafar ever actually touch their lamps while bound to them. They enter and exit them, but they never actually pick them up and hold them. Only after Genie is freed in the first movie, does he hold the lamp in his hands... and he looks completely overwhelmed; it's very possible that this is the first time he's actually been able to hold the lamp with his own hands instead of relying on his masters to take it to various places.
      • Another thing that backs the above theory up is the revelation that Jafar can't go too far away from his lamp. When he tries to leave it behind, he finds he's physically unable to... which is why he decides to work with/manipulate Abis Mal to take the lamp to where he needs to go. Makes sense considering the lamp is a prison and for all his power and abilities Jafar has no control over it.
      • But there are other ways Jafar could have prevented his lamp from falling into the lava without actually touching or casting magic on the lamp itself. Generate platforms at the very top of the stalagmite the lamp is sitting on? Or even a wall high enough to ensure that lamp isn't even EXPOSED to the heat of the lava? Jafar could do SOMETHING to protect the lamp, and therefore himself.
    • Probably a case of "So close yet so far." Jafar was likely overconfident at that point and wanted the lamp dangling right in front of the heroes where they just barely can't get to it. Also, the above reply.

  • This is more a general question but since Jafar seems to understand the limits of Geniedom a little better let's put it here. Are the Genie Rules set in stone or are they more a series of guide lines? I ask because there are several points in both movies with both genies that seem to suggest the Genie is free to some extent to interpret the rules as they please. Genie was annoyed that Aladdin didn't actually wish to be out of the Cave of Wonders but clearly he did it and he treated it more like, hey, you got me good! than like some massive law of the universe had been broken. Later though Aladdin is clearly unconscious and about to drown and Genie interprets gravity pulling his head down as I wish AND THAT ONE COUNTED. WTF. When Jafar gets the lamp Genie moves all of Agrabah to a mountain top seemingly for no reason. Jafar spares Aladdin at the waterfalls and at least claims it was because he wanted to not because he was contractually obligated and the entire lava fight sequence makes no sense in that context. If Genies can't kill the worst that could happen to the heroes was maiming (still bad) the worst that could happen to Jafar was death.
    • They are set in stone but they are loosely defined enough that they don't really matter. It could be that Genie is actually hampered by his good, honest nature and can't bring himself to twist the rules too far purely for his own benefit, while a Manipulative Bastard like Jafar is much more willing and eager to exploit Loophole Abuse to the full.
    • In the case of Genie moving Agrabah, Jafar specifically says he wants to rule from on high as Sultan. So moving it was an explicit part of Jafar's first wish.
    • As for Genie interpreting Aladdin's nod as a second wish, it could be that the explicit nature of the situation meant that there was less 'wiggle room' for Genie to act on his own accord; getting Aladdin out of the cave was basically just him showing off, but here he was released from the lamp by his active master who was clearly in the kind of trouble that would require a wish to save him.

  • Continued from above. Why did Genie indulge Jafar in a fight he knew he couldn't win instead of engaging him in a fight he potentially could win? There is no reason to believe Genie couldn't destroy Jafar's LAMP. He knows the lamp is the weakness and he instead tries to go toe to toe with a being he knows outclasses him in raw power but may not have learned (as he clearly hadn't by the films end) to be cautious about where his lamp is.
    • Because Abis Mal wasn't there, and Genie couldn't automatically know who had the lamp or where they were.
    • Genie might have assumed that Jafar was already free at this point, since by showing up at all and bragging about having his own plans he's implying that he is the one in charge (which he mostly is, just not in that way). It might only be later that Genie realises learns from Iago or realises on his own that Jafar isn't free yet and this is why he hasn't simply killed all of them already.

  • Why didn't the gang try to take control of Jafar's lamp? It would probably be easier than what they went through, (perhaps they could bribe Abis Mal?) and then Jafar would be facing a worse fate than death: a slave to his enemies.
    • Why they didn't keep the lamp in the first place is because the Cave of Wonders was thought to be secure. Controlling the lamp of a genie who doesn't like you is probably tantamount to suicide. The lamp limits a genie but they don't seem to be truly trapped inside them nor does it seem like you can force a genie into the lamp against their will. If an unconscious Aladdin can wish to be saved from drowning and Abis Mal can be wished to the bottom of the ocean (nothing suggests that drowning under those conditions was impossible per the rules) the last thing anybody would want would be a malicious genie hovering about for something that could be interpreted as a fatal or extremely inconvenient wish.
      • In short, they didn't want to become the characters of Wishmaster.
    • Also, Jafar demonstrates in this very movie that he's extremely good at twisting wishes around to his "master's" misfortune. Having him as a slave could potentially be worse than having him as an enemy.

  • If destroying Jafar's lamp would destroy him, why did they not just destroy it right at the end of the first movie, rather than bury it and hope no one ever found (which, of course, someone did). Can it only be destroyed when Jafar isn't currently inside it? I guess you could say they thought it would be akin to murder since he can't fight back when he's trapped in it, but that comes across as an epic case of Honor Before Reason.
    • Because they're not the kind of people that will murder someone who's already been beaten.

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