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What If Gine Went With Goku to Earth? is a Dragon Ball What If? fanfic by Lawrence Simpson aka MasakoX of Team Four Star fame as part of his Dragon Ball Discussion series of Youtube videos. This particular topic started on Mar 19, 2018 in response to the invention of Gine for Dragon Ball Minus.

As the title suggests, he explores his interpretation of an alternate version of the story where Gine is accidentally sent off to Earth with her baby boy Kakarot and is taken in by Grampa Gohan, and seeing how the events would continue to play out through the incoming threats of the series. As of Part 13, the story has gone from the destruction of Planet Vegeta in the Bardock Prequel all the way up to the introduction of Imperfect Cell.

You can find the playlist for it here.

See also Masako X Dragon Ball What If which explores other possibilities in the Dragon Ball verse.


What If Gine Went With Goku to Earth? has the following tropes:

  • Adaptational Badass:
    • Gine, due to training with her son on Earth, becomes way stronger than she ever was in the original manga. She even ends up being the first to go Super Saiyan.
    • Thanks in part to Gine's intervention, Chi-Chi continues her own martial arts training, even joining the Z Fighters on Namek as well as being a lot more involved with Gohan both in his education as well as his training.
    • Gohan achieves Super Saiyan while they were training for the arrival of the Androids.
  • Adaptational Heroism: Raditz is redeemed by Gine and Kakarot and spends the time from the Saiyan Saga to the demise of Freeza as a Rebel Leader fighting against Freeza's forces.
  • Adaptational Name Change: Or rather, canonical lack thereof. Because Gine is with him, Kakarot never gets named Goku and remains known by his Saiyan name.
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  • Adapted Out: Due to Gine distracting King Piccolo enough for Grandpa Gohan and Master Roshi to seal him with the Mafuba, King Piccolo never has the chance to create his spawn, thus the Piccolo we know doesn't exist in this timeline.
  • An Offer You Can't Refuse: Vegeta attempts this on Gine by offering her to be his queen and repopulate their race. Gine is not amused and flat-out refuses. It was all a ploy by Vegeta anyway, as he had no intention of his royal blood getting into bed with a low-class Saiyan anyway.
  • Almighty Mom: Gine went from a stay-at-home mom into one of Earth's most powerful defenders and is responsible for raising the universe's mightiest warrior.
  • Badass Family: Gine's presence completely changes the fabric of the Son family. Goku/Kakarot is far stronger as a warrior, Chi-Chi remains a martial artist and even joining the frontline ranks of the Z Fighters herself, Gohan gains Super Saiyan much earlier, and her eldest son Raditz gains Super Saiyan as well.
  • Bad "Bad Acting": Raditz attempts to divert Vegeta and Nappa's attention by injuring himself and pretending to be dying at the hands of Kakarot and his mother. Vegeta doesn't buy it but doesn't give Raditz a notice.
  • Beware the Nice Ones: Gine is very kind and motherly, but she is still a Saiyan, with all of the dangerous powers and strength that comes with it. Harm her family, and you may as well put your affairs in order.
  • Big Damn Heroes:
    • Raditz and Kakarot sense Cell attacking Grandpa Gohan and Gine, prompting Raditz to Instant Transmission to their aid and save them.
    • Just as Android 16 is about to finish off Kakarot, Future Trunks shows up and impales 16 with his sword, then carries Kakarot to safety.
  • Blood Knight: Gine is gradually enjoying herself once she gets into a fight and becomes cocksure whenever she fights Vegeta and Freeza.
  • Body Horror: Cell manages to stab Gine in the leg with his tail and drain it, making it shrivel up. Fortunately, after Raditz rescues her, he takes her to Korin so it can be healed with a Senzu Bean.
  • Broken Pedestal: Kakarot becomes very upset when Gine decides to retire from fighting.
  • But for Me, It Was Tuesday: While attacking Kakarot, Android 16 explains that he was created to seek revenge for Kakarot destroying the Red Ribbon Army. Kakarot can barely remember that.
  • Curb-Stomp Battle:
    • Because Gine's power was at least twice that of Piccolo's at the time of the King Piccolo saga, Gine spends most of the battle managing to overpower him easily. Though Piccolo almost managed to turn the tables using emotional manipulation tactics to throw her off guard, he's quickly sealed away by Roshi before he can strike.
    • Gine and Kakarot one-shot all of the Ginyu Force except Captain Ginyu (Gine, having heard of them from Bardock, immediately blasted Guldo before he could use his Time Stands Still ability). Gine also one-shots Dodoria and Zarbon.
    • Super Saiyan Kakarot vs Freeza is an even bigger one, due to a combination of Kakarot being stronger than in canon and Super Saiyan Gine managing to make Freeza burn up a lot of stamina whilst fighting her previously. Even in his full power form, Freeza doesn't stand a ghost of a chance.
    • Kakarot one-shots King Cold, treating him more like an afterthought than an opponent.
  • Curb-Stomp Cushion:
    • Vegeta vs Kakarot and Gine. Unlike in the original story, Vegeta gets beaten so much worse he doesn't even have the chance to transform into a Great Ape.
    • Super Saiyan Gine vs 50% Freeza is this, as while Gine is outmatched (due to being weaker than her son), she still manages to hold her own and ultimately makes him burn enough stamina that Super Saiyan Kakarot completely demolishes him once it's his turn to step in.
  • Death by Adaptation:
    • Gine (as a Great Ape) kills Captain Ginyu on Namek after Kakarot tricks him into changing back to his original body, instead of being tricked into becoming a frog.
    • Kakarot vaporizes Freeza after overpowering him in a beam struggle, instead of him returning to Earth as Mecha-Freeza and Future Trunks killing him and his father.
    • King Cold is assassinated by Kakarot and Raditz in his home.
    • Dr. Gero is killed by Raditz before he can escape and release Android 17 and 18.
  • Dynamic Entry: Raditz punches Cell in the jaw and sends him flying into a mountain the moment he Instant Transmissions in to save Gine. Raditz notably never even sees Cell.
  • Evil vs. Evil: Cell and Android 16 meet and fight each other. Cell is hostile due to seeing 16 as an inferior model, while 16 detects that he has Kakarot's DNA, and he was programmed to terminate Kakarot.
  • Face Death with Dignity: When Android 16 is about to kill Kakarot, he calmly accepts it. Fortunately, Future Trunks saves him.
  • Fixed Relative Strength: By the Saiyan Saga, Kakarot is much stronger than his mother due to training with King Kai. During the final showdown with Freeza, Gine ascends to Super Saiyan and briefly surpasses him, before ultimately falling to a Death Beam from 50% Freeza. Then Kakarot achieves Super Saiyan and surpasses his mother again, and curb-stomps Freeza.
  • For Great Justice: Gine discovers and accepts her true reason to fight. She fights not for the pride of Saiyans or for the sport of it. Gine fights for the well being of Planet Earth, telling as much to Imperfect Cell when she confronts him.
  • For Want of a Nail: Gine basically trips and gets locked in the Pod that sent Kakarot to Earth, and thus Dragon Ball history is permanently altered.
  • Fountain of Youth: To prepare for the arrival of Vegeta and Nappa, Kami uses the Dragon Balls to restore his youth to his prime (kinda what King Piccolo did in canon) and trains with the Z Fighters.
  • From Nobody to Nightmare: Heroic example: Gine was a weakling by Saiyan standards, but by the Namek Saga she's become so strong she can take on members of the Ginyu Force due to training with her son. When going up against Freeza, she ultimately ascends to Super Saiyan and holds her own against his final form for quite a while.
  • God Is Dead: Just like Piccolo in the original canon, Kami sacrifices himself to protect Chi-Chi and Gohan from Nappa's blast. The Dragon Balls shut down as a result, thus forcing the gang to travel to Planet Namek so they can use their Dragon Balls to bring back Kami, Tien, and Chiaotzu.
  • Grandma, What Massive Hotness You Have!: Subverted. Due to her Saiyan biology, Gine is just as physically active and attractive in her fifties (as of the Androids Arc) as she was in her teen years.
  • Heel–Face Brainwashing: After defeating Android 19 and 20, the Z Fighters find Dr. Gero's lab and Bulma takes the still inactive 17 and 18 to Capsule Corp to try to reprogram them to be good. Unfortunately, they missed 16, and he attacks Kakarot when he wakes up.
  • Heel–Face Turn: Raditz, in this version, decides to turn to the heroes' side after meeting his mother and brother. He then settles on Yardrat where instead of conquering it, he defends the planet against Freeza's forces.
  • Heroic BSoD:
    • Vegeta is completely frozen in fear and unresponsive once he finally senses Freeza's power and finds it is way higher than his.
    • After the battle on Namek, Gine loses her fighting spirit, feeling that she has nothing more to prove and fight for now that Freeza is dead and overcoming her past demons. She decides to retire to a peaceful life and pass the torch over to her son, as he is now far more powerful than she is. Her dilemma gets even worse after Cell's attack. Gine breaks down over the loss of her retirement and the peaceful life on Earth she once had, and asks if she'll ever get it back. Raditz and Grandpa Gohan remind her that she is a Saiyan, and if that was what she truly wanted, she would've long since abandoned Kakarot and gone off on her own entirely. Gine never truly escaped her Saiyan heritage, but what always made her unique among Saiyans is that she has always channeled her Saiyan pride and fighting spirit through the sheer love of her family and her home, rather than sport or self-centered pride. It's this sudden realization that snaps Gine out of her funk.
  • I Can't Sense Their Presence: When Gine and Raditz enter the Room of Spirit and Time to train, Kakarot can no longer sense them, which makes him assume something bad happened to them.
  • In Spite of a Nail:
    • Even though Yamcha survives the Saiyan Saga and is able to spend more time with Bulma, including joining the trip to Namek, she still ends up leaving him for Vegeta, ensuring the birth of Trunks.
    • In this version, Vegeta and Nappa remembered to turn off the transmitters in their scouters, so Freeza doesn't know about the Dragon Balls. Freeza and his minions still go to Namek, because they were chasing Vegeta to punish him for going AWOL.
  • Lame Pun Reaction: After they both Took a Level in Badass by going in the Room of Spirit and Time, Gine and Raditz confront Cell. Raditz says regarding Cell "drinking" people with his tail, that he has a drinking problem. Both Gine and Cell are dumbfounded by this comment.
  • Mama Bear: Harm her children or grandson, Gine will make sure you will pay. Vegeta and Freeza learn this the hard way, especially the latter which causes Gine to become a Super Saiyan.
  • My Species Doth Protest Too Much: As in canon, Gine is very nice compared to other Saiyans. This is good for Earth, as she's willing to live peacefully there and protect it.
  • Next Tier Power-Up: After some training in the Room Of Spirit And Time, Gine quickly gets back up to speed with the rest of the group and first achieves the Super Saiyan Second Grade form before her first confrontation with Imperfect Cell.
  • Nice Job Breaking It, Hero!: While exploring Dr. Gero's lab, Kakarot fiddles with some buttons and accidentally activates Android 16, who proceeds to attack him.
  • No Eye in Magic: Wearing sunglasses prevents Saiyans from turning into Great Apes when they look at the full moon.
  • Normal Fish in a Tiny Pond: Gine might be a complete weakling by Saiyan standards, but by Earthling standards is monstrously powerful for early Dragon Ball. Remember, Raditz was considered a weakling by other Saiyans (Dragon Ball Z Abridged claimed that Vegeta was as strong as 15 Raditz,) and he still required an Enemy Mine of Goku and Piccolo (AKA the two strongest beings on the planet at the time).
  • Not Afraid of You Anymore: Gine has this realization when she knocks Freeza down with a punch and sees she is strong enough to fight him.
  • Oh, Crap!: Freeza is decidedly taken off guard when he realizes Gine is much stronger than his first form (the one he's currently in), leaving him open to a punch in the jaw.
  • One-Winged Angel:
    • Vegeta didn't get to do it on Earth, but does on Namek...against a way stronger Kakarot and Gine who make short work of him.
    • Gine is faced with Ginyu in Kakarot's body and she uses Vegeta's artificial moon to go Great Ape to beat and then obliterate him once Kakarot tricks him into changing back.
  • O.O.C. Is Serious Business: After Gine transforms into a Super Saiyan, Kakarot notices his normally sweet mother's personality has drastically altered and becomes concerned.
  • Pair the Spares: Raditz is paired up with Launch, but instead of like his other version, they are more or less Friends with Benefits.
  • Parallel Conflict Sequence: On Planet Namek, Kakarot, Gine, and Vegeta face Freeza while Gohan, Chi-Chi, Krillin, and Yamcha defend the Namekians from Freeza's minions.
  • Parent-Child Team: Kakarot and Gine ultimately become this, especially after training on the way to Namek.
  • Passing the Torch: Gine intends to pass it onto Kakarot someday as he's quickly becoming strong enough to take on any force coming their way by his own.
  • Pragmatic Villainy: Raditz turns away from the Freeza Force after meeting his mother and brother, mainly because if Raditz actually tried to take Kakarot back to the fold, he would most likely be killed. Gine and Kakarot both match his power and could easily destroy him.
  • Proud Warrior Race Guy: Deconstructed when Gine calls out Raditz on this mindset while in the Room of Spirit and Time. Gine says this it was this selfish belief among Saiyans that created their enslavement and eventual destruction at the hands of Freeza, who played up this belief to easily manipulate the Saiyans into doing his bidding. Gine refuses to go along with that mindset, and until Raditz understands the meaning of what she is saying, she will not train with him. Raditz eventually starts to get the message.
  • Punch Catch: Super Saiyan Gine is pummeling Freeza with ease, until he decides to power up to 50%, then catches her punch and breaks her wrist.
  • Reluctant Warrior: Unlike her Blood Knight husband and sons, Gine still retains her kind and passive personality despite her immense strength, only stepping up to fight when she needs to. She re-enforces this belief to Raditz while in the Room of Spirit and Time.
  • Retired Badass: Gine decides to retire from fighting after the Namek incident. It doesn't last thanks to Cell.
  • Screw This, I'm Out of Here!: Raditz arrives on Earth, but after meeting Kakarot and Gine, he abandons the Freeza Force and goes AWOL.
  • Shipper on Deck: Chi-Chi tried to set up her father Ox-King with Gine. It didn't work because they were still mourning their respective spouse and they thought if they got married, it would make Kakarot and Chi-Chi siblings, but they became good friends.
  • Spared by the Adaptation:
    • Naturally, being the focus on this What If, Gine survives the destruction of Planet Vegeta by accidentally being knocked in the pod meant for just Kakarot.
    • Thanks to Gine being around to intervene during Kakarot's first transformation into a Great Ape, Grandpa Gohan isn't accidentally killed by his adoptive grandson.
    • King Piccolo is not killed in this version, Master Roshi is able to successfully seal him away with the Mafuba thanks to help from Gine and back-up from Grandpa Gohan. Because of this Piccolo Jr doesn't exist. Since Roshi had Grandpa Gohan helping him, using the Mafuba doesn't kill him.
    • Due to his Pragmatic Villainy, Raditz also survives, as both Gine and Kakarot are as strong as him, giving them time to reason with him due to his cautious nature. He later returns after Freeza is killed.
    • Since Raditz left without a fight, Kakarot didn't have to sacrifice himself. Kami still pulls some strings for him to receive training from King Kai.
    • Yamcha survives the Saiyan Saga, as Gine knows what Saibamen are and thus sees the self-destruct attack coming, allowing her to warn him and let him avoid it.
    • The Namekians who helped the main characters get the Dragon Balls so far haven't been targeted by the Freeza Forces' genocide attack.
    • Krillin isn't killed by Freeza, as Kakarot going Super Saiyan is instead a result of Gine being given a Death Beam through the chest.
  • Sunglasses at Night: Justified. Gine is aware becoming a Great Ape during a full moon and artificial moon is dangerous.
  • 10-Minute Retirement: After the climactic showdown with Freeza on Namek, Gine finally decides once and for all to retire from fighting and leave the protector job to her sons and grandchild. Her retirement is short-lived when Imperfect Cell, in search of a good food source and finding Gine's power appetizing, appears and attacks her in her home. After being rescued by Raditz, Gine is inspired by Raditz and Grandpa Gohan to stand up and fight once more.
  • Tranquil Fury: When Gine goes Super Saiyan, she goes full-on into this mode against Freeza.
  • Traumatic Superpower Awakening: Gine witnesses her son get shot by one of Freeza's Death Beams, which triggers her transformation into a Super Saiyan. Curb-Stomp Battle by her ensues until Freeza powers up to 50% and seemingly kills her, likewise causing Kakarot to ascend as well and completely demolish the tired tyrant.
  • Teleportation: Because Raditz settled on Yardrat and defended it, the Yardrats taught him the Instant Transmission technique. He is the one who teaches it to Kakarot.
  • Underestimating Badassery:
    • Freeza can't sense energy, so after he defeats Super Saiyan Gine, when Kakarot goes Super Saiyan, he assumes he'll only be roughly as strong as Gine. Since Kakarot was way stronger than Gine in base form, the 50x multiplier makes him way stronger than Freeza.
    • Kakarot assumes that because Android 16 is so huge, that he'll be slow. He's wrong.
  • Villainous Breakdown: Gine going Super Saiyan and beginning to dominate Final Form Freeza sends him into a screaming fury. He briefly regains his composure upon going up to 50%, but Kakarot going Super Saiyan and utterly crushing him sends him further into it, to the point he's so furious he skips trying to blow up the planet in his attempt to kill the Saiyan himself.
  • Worf Had the Flu:
    • Gine made Kakarot remember to take the heart medication before they confronted the Androids. Since he was supposed to take it much earlier, the heart virus still attacks him, but it just weakens him and makes him unable to control his ki instead of collapse and lose consciousness. This nevertheless allows Android 19 to get the upper hand on him until Raditz rescues him. This also makes him no match for Android 16.
    • Android 16 is impaled by Future Trunks' sword, then is found by Cell while he is trying to repair himself. Cell gets the advantage in their fight and ultimately leaves him lying on the ground beaten up.
  • World's Strongest Woman: At least during the Dragon Ball Era, Gine is the most powerful being on Earth due to her power level matching Young King Piccolo, and later becoming as strong as Raditz. Kakarot eventually outpaces her, but Gine retakes the position after becomes a Super Saiyan. She then loses it when Kakarot goes Super Saiyan, though she's still the strongest woman until 18 comes along.
  • You Are What You Hate: Gine points out that Raditz continuing to follow Freeza's philosophy and sense of power being the most important thing, he's being no different than he was. Raditz ultimately decides that yes, she's right.

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