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Man, this is worse than that time I had to remember my worst moments from Family Guy!

Seth MacFarlane and his writing team sought to create a show that's so offensive it's funny. In these cases, they probably put too much emphasis on the former.

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     Seasons 1- 3 (Pre-Revival) 
  • fluffything: To prove not everything pre-revival was a classic, we have the Season 1 episode "Brian: Portrait of a Dog", which shows the dog's Black Hole Sue tendencies went as far back as the first season. Why? Well, at first, the episode starts out great with Brian feeling Peter doesn't respect him and Peter also feeling Brian doesn't appreciate him causing the former to run away. But, then it goes completely downhill after Brian runs away and we are subjected to many many parallels to the 1960s "Civil Rights" movements. No, just, no. It's a bad comparison for many reasons. First, equating a dog's (albeit a human-level intelligent one) problems with "leash laws" to the "Jim Crow" laws is just insulting on so many levels I don't know where to begin. Second, the indignities that minorities had to endure were far worse than Brian not being allowed to drink at a fountain or having to wear a leash for his own protection. And, finally, the parallel just doesn't work because most dogs in the series are realistic animal-minded dogs (About the only dogs in Family Guy that are of human level intelligence are Brian, New Brian (deceased), Jasper, and the Griffin's old dog Todd. This isn't Brian asking for equal rights for his species. This is Brian complaining about not being treated "special" because he's a talking dog.
    • Squir: Not to mention that it can carry Fridge Logic Unfortunate Implications.note 
    • Chilliwack: Most unforgivably for me was the fact that except for a few sparse moments, this episode was played dead serious. Viewers of the time had come to expect non-stop laughs from this show. It just wasn't funny. And it didn't match any prior episodes in tone.
  • Kittens: There's a scene in "A Picture is Worth a Thousand Bucks" where it shows an old fashioned Minnie Mouse being forced to strip against her will for a sleazy Walt Disney asking her if she wants to be famous. He threatens her too while Minnie cries in embarrassment. Whatever you may think of Walt Disney or his company, this was just plain sick and unfunny.
  • The Irish Insomniac: I don't know if I'll be courting controversy by saying this, but I really and truly did not care for Season Two's "Let's Go to the Hop". The reason why is, well, rather simple, I thought it was an extremely boring episode, that somehow managed to irritate me at the same time. That cringe-inducing song in the middle, the unfunny cutaways (keep in mind the first three seasons had the highest standard of humor and writing, in my opinion) and how whiny Meg was throughout. Peter's neglect didn't help much either, nor that damn Connie character. I can see why the writing staff don't like writing for Meg, because that episode was inoffensive to the point of well, being offensive, and when you're writing for Family Guy, that should be your number one priority: make us laugh and make us give a damn. Seth once said "Fore, Father" was the weakest episode of the first three seasons, but I'm inclined to disagree.
  • Lin Taylor: I'm actually surprised nobody's mentioned "To Love and Die in Dixie" yet. This was the first episode with Seth's over-the-top hatred of the Southern US on full display, especially Meg's class consisting of every snide stereotype imaginable (like the preteen who already has a daughter, and an honest-to-God pig being part of the class). When the writers are giving Meg fair shakes, you know someone else is being savaged.
  • Doctor Sleep: In "Mr. Saturday Knight", there's a cutaway scene showing Margot Kidder having a psychotic outbreak. That's the joke. The fact that a real person struggling with a mental illness is seen as little more than a disposable gag just shows how elitist and cruel the writers at Family Guy really are. Even South Park has the courtesy to show mentally ill people in a sympathetic light.
  • J Barefoot 1992: I'm actually surprised no one has mentioned the episode "Stuck Together Torn Apart" yet. Now, don't get me wrong, the episode itself is not really bad, I mean, both the Peter/Lois and especially the Brian/Stewie stories were actually quite good and the episode itself had a very decent amount of memorable jokes but two specific moments that I absolutely hated and that I consider to be the beginning of the downfall of the show are often overlooked here, which are the moment when Meg Griffin gets smashed by a piano due to her mother being surprised to see one of her ex-boyfriends with Meg herself asking anyone to help her and no one paying the slightest attention to her suffering and the other one, for me, being the actual beginning of the downfall of the series which involves Lois Griffin reading a very private piece of Meg's diary to the whole family with everyone laughing at it and even after Meg showed up quite devastated by what her family and especially, her mother did, her father just says: "Keep going", as if nothing happened. Now this moment in particular really enervates me a lot because this, for me, was the moment when Family Guy officially started giving up on any kind of standards they had up until that point and from there on, it only got worse and worse. This was pretty much the moment Lois Griffin ceased to be a fairly decent yet with a bit of an edge kind of mother and Peter started to become the lousy, ubnoxious father he would later become as the series continued, not to mention the fact that her entire family took part on that. All this, for me, counts as the first real dethroning moment of suck and from then on, things only got worse and worse, especially a few episodes after the revival with Season 4, more specifically after "Petarded" but that's another story and some tropers have already talked about it.

     Season 4 
  • Man Called True: "North by North Quahog" - The very first thing the show did on returning - having Peter list off every canceled FOX show since Family Guy went off the air. The sheer arrogance of the moment is staggering. It's Seth waving his dick around and yelling, "Suck it, FOX! I'm the only chance you have!" And it's also illogical - what, they all got canceled because they're not Family Guy? The scene might have worked if they listed every show that was in Family Guy's time slot, but listing every canceled Fox show takes it to the point of masturbation.
  • ading: "Don't Make me Over", in which Meg gets a makeover. It's not the height of the show's offensiveness, but it's the point where the Character Derailment started to set in. In the episode, two people commit suicide upon seeing how ugly Meg is. She wins a contest to turn an ugly woman into "someone of value to society". So she gets the makeover, and the only noticeable difference afterwards is that she has blonde hair and blue eyelids. Remember, kids, it doesn't matter what else you do, if you have brown hair, you're a mind-blowingly ugly abomination! After Peter sees her with the makeover, he says "I always thought you were beauti-" and then bursts out laughing, unable to say it with a straight face, despite telling her she was beautiful before she got the makeover in the same episode. Meg gets Acquired Situational Narcissism from the makeover, and is eventually forced to have it undone. She is actually glad to be "ugly" again, because she feels it was too much work being beautiful. Lois (who up until then had spent the episode trying to comfort her), when she hears this, replies "Not for me, hunny". I don't know what the writers were thinking when they wrote this.
    • ElegantVamp: The fact that so many people consider Meg to be hideous makes even less sense, because she looks exactly like Lois (whom everyone thinks is "hot"), albeit with a different hair color and glasses.
    • Rosebud 64: The writers seemed to give Meg the love she deserved. So much for that. They could have give her a little more respect since that episode, but no, she had to go back to herself by the end. Because Status Quo Is God. And before you say "but that episode had An Aesop with Be Yourself!" remember that this is just a lame excuse to put the character through shit.
  • Krendall: I have a couple issues with "Petarded". It's odd since I find the episode itself funny, but I think the decline of the show (or at least Peter's character) can be traced to this episode. By making Peter technically developmentally disabled, it now gave the writers free reign to make him do even the stupidest of acts. If anyone calls them out on it, they can just say, "Well... he's developmentally disabled." Of course, this just makes every one of Peter's stupid and/or jackassy actions a slap in the face to actual developmentally disabled people. The other thing that bugs me is the scene where Peter is told he's developmentally disabled. The doctor shows an intelligence chart and it lists Creationists below developmentally disabled people.
  • Raven Black: "8 Simple Rules for Buying My Teenage Daughter". I hate this episode so much. Peter trying to sell his own daughter into slavery to settle a pharmacy tab (with her later selling herself into it just because she's inexplicably jealous of Neil Goldman, a boy she's loathed for ages, having a girlfriend). Stewie murdering the hypotenuse in the subplot, again out of jealousy. That ipecac vomiting scene that's nearly a minute long. That stupid "breakfast machine" cutaway which just results in Peter injuring himself yet again. Is there anything funny about any of this?
  • Dan The Enigma: "Brian Goes Back to College". Don't get me wrong. I like this episode for the most part. There's one thing that really pisses me off though. At the very end of the episode, Brian ends up failing his test that would've meant that he graduated and he says that despite failing, he has his pride because he didn't cheat. Now that's a nice Aesop to end a pretty funny episode. What does the family do? They, no pun intended, Kick the Dog. They completely shoot down Brian's statement and say that he actually should have cheated! I do realize that Brian is an Author Avatar, but c'mon! You could've at least given him this instead of having the main family act like one giant Jerkass.
  • MrJeperson: It has to be "Brian Sings and Swings". The subplot, where Meg pretends to be a lesbian to get more friends, is yet more kicking of the Butt-Monkey (and the moment where Lois, who of course has to be Teh Sex at all times, mocks Meg and then fakes lesbianism so much better than her daughter is yet another one that only makes Lois all the more unlikeable) - but what really makes this episode so nauseating is the repeated ass-kissing administered to Frank Sinatra Jr, just so that Seth can get to sing with a Sinatra. Yes, Seth, we get it - you have a fairly good singing voice. But Pavarotti or Presley you are not. Hell, you're not even Sinatra Jr. So just quit it already. (Oh, and would good old Author Avatar Brian really proclaim that he feels "like freakin' Jesus" when he sings?...)
  • Sceptre: "Patriot Games" — the home of the infamous "Where's my money?" and "Shipoopi" scenes. The former scene was just unnecessary violence and is uncomfortable to watch. The sheer unnecessary-ness of the latter scene was parodied five years later in a Clip Show, when Stewie cringes at the fact that they have to play "Shipoopi" again.
    • dementia13: Don't have a problem with something being uncomfortable to watch, but musical numbers are usually the dew line for a show having jumped the shark. Mostly averted in Family Guy's case, as they're there due to MacFarlane's fanhood, but "Shipoopi" was some of the most overlong, unfunny, obnoxious filler I've seen, and it was compounded by giving the London Sillynannies a musical number of their own. Its only funny moment was showing John Madden dancing along in the broadcast booth. IIRC, that episode was tied in with FOX's Super Bowl broadcast that particular season. Talk about putting your worst foot forward.
    • Video Game Crack: Lois tells Peter that, if he got handicapped, she would just drop him.
  • Merlock: "You May Now Kiss the...Uh...Guy Who Recieves". For one, how is the mayor "banning" gay marriage? At the time this episode aired, gay marriage wasn't legal in Rhode Island yet—an inaccuracy that exists just to subtly make his side more "villainous." Secondly, Jasper and his boyfriends are the biggest stereotypes ever, and the most "romantic" thing about their relationship is Jasper making a sex joke. They don't even talk to each other (because the Fillipino can't speak English and Jasper makes no sign of speaking Tagalog, or even Spanish)—their relationship is as shallow as a puddle, so cares whether or not they can get a tax break for their zoophilia? And third, Lois is convinced to support gay marriage because Brian holds somebody at gunpoint. What sense does that make?! Her logic is that "he feels really strongly about this" so he must be right—that's idiotic! Brian is committing an act of terrorism right now! If gay marriage is right, it's right; if it's wrong, it's wrong. The fact that somebody (particularly somebody who's not even gay) "feels really strongly" about it does not prove their side is right! (Put another way—if the mayor was trying to legalize gay marriage and Brian put a gun to his head to stop it, would he be right then?) And then there was a "joke" about Elizabeth Smart, the real-life girl who was kidnapped by a crazy cultist for more than a year. The punchline is that she's horribly traumatized from repeatedly being raped. Seriously. (N.B.: the real Elizabeth Smart seems to have, thankfully, recovered from her ordeal quite well.)
    • Astfgl: And no-one's mentioned the (thankfully) deleted scene that shows that Jasper's 'boyfriend' has no idea that he's getting married?
    • EponymousKid: And not to reiterate, but the fact that the episode is supposed to be supportive of gay rights, yet trots out the most insulting stereotypes imaginable, is appalling at best. The thing that really gets to me is the fact that the writers are so prejudiced without even realizing it.
    • Ecclytennysmithylove: While I agree with the above posts, there is one part in that episode that left a bad taste in my mouth and that is the scene where Stewie, Brian, and Jasper were watching The Sound of Music. In this movie parodied, after the nuns sabotaged the Nazis' pursuit of the Von Trapp family, one of the nuns confessed to the Reverend Mother Superior that she committed a sin and revealed that she decapitated Rolfe, much to the other nuns' horror. That said nun then shouted, "Hey, I didn't start this war, but it's on!" Yes, Family Guy writers, we get it! Rolfe was turned into a Nazi, and anybody who were Nazis shall burn in hell! But what the FG writers did to Rolfe was just uncalled for and pointlessly dark. I'm pretty sure Liesl's not going to be happy that her lover, who suffered a Face–Heel Turn, had been killed off by one of the nuns. And I'm pretty sure the older Sound of Music movie fans who viewed this dreadful parody weren't happy with the FG writers interpreting how Rolfe's fate probably ended after he was brainwashed by the notorious dictator.
  • The Dog Sage: From Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story, which would become a three-parter in season 4: The cut-away gag in which we have Elmer Fudd repeatedly shoot Bugs Bunny and then snap his neck before dragging the bleeding carcass away. Seriously, that's the entire 'joke', Elmer Fudd violently and bloodily killing Bugs Bunny. Graphically murdering a beloved childhood icon isn't Black Comedy, it's just sick.
    • Maedar: The Elizabeth Smart joke stands out as what I believe is the most despicable thing on any animated show, but seeing as that has already been mentioned, I'll add something else. Most fans of this show think the whole "Grinds My Gears" routine was one of the best gags on the show (many wishing they'd make it into a regular segment) totally ignoring that Peter makes a racist joke and a sexist joke over the course of it. (People think the second one is funny because they think Lindsay Lohan is an Acceptable Target, but the message is kind of deluded coming from a character who has committed every single immoral action she's been accused of, on a far larger scale.) To paraphrase a character from a show that Family Guy is a cheap rip-off of, I am lying when I say that the "Grinds My Gears" routine was a well-plotted piece of nonclaptrap that never made me want to retch.

     Season 5 
  • darkrage6: Since someone already mentioned the infamous "Brian & Stewie" episode, I'll go with "Stewie Loves Lois", which I hated because it was just extremely unfunny and lazily written, the episode is essentially an Overly Long Unfunny Gag stretched out to 22 minutes (with the exception of the lame subplot where Stewie actually begins to like Lois - how is that supposed to be funny or entertaining?), the gag being Peter mistaking a prostate exam for an attempted rape and complaining about how he was "raped" for almost the whole episode. It's not funny the first time and it gets even more annoying every other time; how anyone can possibly find that funny is beyond me.
    • Jurgan: What's more is that, when Peter first tells Lois "I was raped," her reaction is to laugh. If it was after he said that the prostate exam he had was the "rape", it'd be understandable, but this was before! Remember, men can never be raped!
    • Jeduthun: To make matters worse, Peter's reactions reflect the real trauma symptoms experienced by many rapes victims, meaning that someone went to some effort to find out how people respond to real molestation— for the express purpose of mocking it and making him look like a buffoon for taking it so seriously. This leaves a strong implication of the message that if someone is genuinely traumatized and believes they were molested, really it was just nothing and they're an idiot for saying otherwise, and especially for trying to hold the perpetrator accountable in court. Never mind that Peter actually was subject to penetration without informed consent! This lands suspiciously close to the Moral Event Horizon.
  • Tye Dye Wildebeest: "Hell Comes to Quahog" was overall a pretty decent episode, but it had quite possibly the most tasteless and unfunny cutaway gag in the history of the series. When Stewie complains about Quahog's new Superstore USA, Brian claims that he just hates department stores because of that one time a "special" boy pet him too hard in front of a Kmart. We then cut to a developmentally disabled child continually petting Brian really hard (to the point where he finds it difficult to keep his balance) until Brian snaps and bites him. Then the child starts crying, and we cut back to the story. That's it. The scene doesn't have a punchline; we're just supposed to laugh at the developmentally disabled kid simply because he's developmentally disabled. It wasn't quite enough to ruin the episode for me, but it certainly didn't help.
  • Westing1992: I have only seen one episode of Family Guy in my life, and it was bad enough that I'm unlikely to watch any in the future. The episode in question was "Whistle While Your Wife Works". For starters, it opens with Peter blowing his fingers off with a firework, scattering them around the neighborhood in a sequence that was uncomfortable and unfunny. Due to his injuries, Peter has Lois become his secretary and wants to have sex with her in his office. Meanwhile, Brian is dating a hot, but incredibly dumb, girl, and wants to break up with her. Neither storyline is very funny, and neither has an adequate ending: Peter and Lois have sex, but she's still working as his secretary; Brian tries to break up with the girl, but winds up having sex with her instead. Sex is not a valid substitute for resolutions. But what stands out for me the worst is a cutaway gag where Peter mentions having lots of hiding places for his porn. The resulting gag is about a minute showing Peter going into an elaborate underground vault, and, at the end, takes out a porn magazine; it's an overly-long setup to a joke to which we already know the punchline.
  • dubledolix: In "Prick Up Your Ears", Lois tries out a sex-ed class so kids know how to have safe sex. She got fired by the next day, why? Because her husband was acting like an idiot in class? No! The parents demanded the sex ed class to be canceled just because Lois was teaching their kids how to use a condom. Rule of Funny, my ass. Here I thought Lois and Peter were the worst parents around, but the other parents actually allowed their kids to through life without any proper knowledge about sex and how it should work. Worst of all, who everyone listened to when it comes to sex? Some stage man who makes up complete bullshit about sex such as a penis being sent a different dimension by having sexual intercourse before marriage. You know there's something wrong with someone if they look more stupid than Son Fricken' Goku! (Goku, even as a teenager, didn't know a thing or two about sex or marriage, yet he and Chi Chi end up raising perfectly healthy young boys) Besides what's wrong with having sex with someone? If it's about them being corrupted through lust, then it's that person's fault, not the desire.
  • Koopa Kid 17: Season 5 is when the show started relying on shock humor and Cringe Comedy and it rears its ugly head for pretty much the duration of "The Tan Aquatic with Steve Zissou". The worst of it has to be the scene where Peter, Quagmire, Cleveland and Joe play a round of golf. Quagmire lets loose a stream of expletives when things don't go his way and then, from out of nowhere, Cleveland says, "A white man shouldn't play sports in the first place." Yeah, because that line would never work if a person of any another race said that about blacks.
  • Alex Sora 89: I can't think of a single episode, since the series as a whole usually makes him go "that-couldn't-make-me-laugh-in-a-million-years", but a nice example that could be picked is the Italian dub of the episode, "No Meals on Wheels". I'm not talking about "The crippletron"; I'm talking about the ending. You know, Peter begins to understand what being disabled means and feels like... until the last line of the episode is said by Peter: "Grey's Anatomy? [which Joe was planning to watch with the Griffins] Come on, that series doesn't stand on its feet!" (the expression means, "it's pointless"). It was all a setup for a lame joke. Seriously, they Played for Laughs Character Development to pull a lame Take That! at both Grey's Anatomy and disabled people everywhere. The thing that "couldn't stand on its feet" is the punchline itself.
  • The Pocket: "Boys Do Cry". The one where they go to Texas. As has previously been said, you can't mix preachiness with over-the-top parody, and this episode shows why perfectly: The people they meet there are deliberately exaggerated for comedic effect, yet then you have Brian taking it totally seriously, which makes it seem like the writers did too (even though, unless you're incredibly cynical, it's obvious that they aren't and cannot possibly be that stupid). It's also an example of why a character like Brian does not work on this show: He's essentially a real person (namely the writer) living on World of Weirdness, and for the most part they're stuck making him ignore the sort of behavior someone like him shouldn't be tolerating. It's only when that behavior offends his political sensibilities, apparently, that he can't stand silently by. Of course, "Not All Dogs Go to Heaven" would end up taking this problem even further; I just lost patience sooner than most people apparently.
    • The Nth Troper: That episode lost me for a while (I was briefly won back until "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven") but another reason I hate it was for wasting Gilbert Gottfried in a nothing cameo. Still not as bad a waste as the TNG cast, and as it's Gilbert YMMV.
    • SG_Man_Forever: I hated this episode simply because I am tired of the stereotype that those from my state are ignorant, racist, sexist, dogmatic assholes who would attempt en masse to lynch people because they are gay or atheist. I recognize parody when I see it, but as the first troper noted, when you mix preachiness with over-the-top parody and include extremely mean-spirited stereotyping, the result is you sounding like an asshole.
    • Stevie Will Show You: The big problem I had with this episode was the entire setup to get them to Texas just so the show could make all the "Texans are backwards-ass jerkwad rednecks" jokes. Stewie throws up in church after ingesting too many crackers and too much wine — which is a completely understandable reaction — and just because the crackers and wine are part of Communion, he's immediately assumed to be possessed and sought after by the entire town of Quahog, as well as the authorities, for an exorcism. First: it makes religious people look like complete Jerkasses for wanting to deliver an exorcism to a child who threw up in church (I know, big shock, Family Guy hating on religion). Second: actual church-sanctioned exorcisms are few and far between, and even then, they're done by highly-trained members of the clergy (and only after the church has deemed an exorcism to be truly necessary), not some random priest and a bunch of pissed-off civilians. Third: the whole "the police are looking for a possessed child" bit makes no sense because, last I checked, the police aren't called on to arrest people just because they're accused of being possessed by the devil. Fourth: Even if the Griffins had to run from the entire population of Quahog, that's no reason to make everyone else on the Griffins' trip to Texas (including non-Quahog police officers) as dumb as the rest of Quahog. If the rest of the episode had been worth the intelligence-insulting setup, then maybe I could forgive the attack on religion and the general absurdity of the setup; too bad that, as the others have pointed out above me, the episode was nowhere near worth the setup.
    • danjorw1 I believe this was the episode in which Stewie competed (in drag) in a beauty pageant. Stewie makes a snarky joke about ending up like JonBenét Ramsey. For those not privy, she was a 6-year-old beauty pageant contestant who was brutally murdered in her home on Christmas Day in 1996 and whose murder still remains unsolved. That was utterly tasteless and disrespect to the victim and her family. What the hell are they thinking? I know it has been a while since it happened, but that is no excuse. And it's losing sane viewers because the writers making light of seriously tragic events worth making a few possible weirdos laugh at poorly thought out jokes.
    • Philipnova798: This was the episode that made me lose all hope in the series. Up to this point, I was able to tolerate the Black Comedy nature of the post-cancellation seasons. Hell even this episode I liked... up until Stewie vomits the communion wine. And that's when it all came crumbling down as religious propaganda and racism that makes even American Dad! seem tame. Texans are not all stupid, self-minded people. And really? Why the fuck did they have to include two Chuck Norris jokes that weren't even remotely entertaining (punching another child? Really?) Having Dubya in the episode was promising as they did make him into a nice guy, but severely wasted largely in part of the Author Tract going on. This episode is the reason why I only watch the first three seasons on an occasional basis (If I bother watching the series).
  • N Troper: The one scene that cemented Carter's status as a Jerkass: The scene in "No Chris Left Behind" where he went to a local orphanage, picked out a kid, filled out all the paperwork, and then didn't took him home. While taunting the orphan kid from inside the car packed with toys and a puppy. Just for fun. And to add insult to injury, he stated just before that scene that he does it every month. That's just cruel. Nothing else, just cruel. Any wonders on why Lois became such a Bitch in Sheep's Clothing recently? Besides all the crap she has to put up with regarding Peter?

     Season 6 
  • Furi Kuri: The moments in "Blue Harvest" where they just ripped gags off wholesale from Airplane!. They don't make sense if you haven't seen Airplane, and if you have, it's nothing more than "Yep, that sure is a reference to Airplane". That's Seltzer and Friedberg-style humor right there. I hated the episode as a whole, but that just cemented it as the worst episode I've seen.
  • Megatronacepticon: The cutaway in "Movin' Out (Brian's Song)" where Quagmire rapes Marge Simpson and murders her family. Many Family Guy fans (including myself) are also fans of The Simpsons, so naturally we do not find this the least bit amusing.
    • Purr Elise: Agreed. Even Matt Groening (a friend of Seth and a fan of the show) was so disgusted by this it almost ended the friendship between the two of them.
    • Acesoldier Zero: The worst part is that it honestly could have been a pretty funny visual gag if the writers had the sense to end it before Quagmire murders the entire Simpson family.
    • ergeis: I thought that scene was funny, but then again that was during the time I was a dipshit teenager with no taste in comedy. While it's true that The Simpsons mocked Family Guy with accusations of being an inferior copycat, they were never this malicious. Seth's defense was, paraphrased, "Hey, they made fun of us!" Seth, how old are you?
    • Knightofbalance: I came back and watched this episode and...I think I may have felt a part of myself die here. Not just because of the Simpsons cutaway gag, which I will quickly address here: If you can't respect your roots in fiction (and in life most times) then you won't be respected. You never see Homer beat up or insult Fred Flintstone, who likewise never beat up Ralph Kramden, simply out of respect. Family Guy doesn't seem to have the same respect and thus, will never earn it. Now for my main problem: I think this marks the descent of Brian's character from being a smart Deadpan Snarker to a stereotypical liberal douche. Thanks, writers of Family Guy (I highly doubt Seth would stoop this low) for beginning the destruction of your most respected character.
    • Warner14: Honestly, The Simpsons being murdered in an admittedly tasteless "joke" was the point where I feel Family Guy Jumped the Shark in terms of how far the writers thought they could go with their so-called "edgy" humor and where I also feel the show got so much worse. Instead of laughing at what could have been Crosses the Line Twice, I feel a strong sense of malice behind it. If they really were fans of The Simpsons, then they wouldn't have pulled this stunt in the first place.
  • Midoriri: For me, it was one of the Cutaway Gags in "Padre De Familia". Brian reminds Peter that he (Peter) didn't even know about 9/11 until years later. Okay, fine... but then we cut to Lois, watching the coverage with tears in her eyes and a tissue in hand... and Peter walks in, glances at the TV, laughs and says "Must be a woman-pilot," before walking off. That's not fucking funny!
    • Inuyasha FE: In "Padre de Familia", the scene where Peter gets a job as a nanny, crashes through the window, on top of two children, killing them. He gets up, vomits, shoves them under the bed, vomits again, cries, then jumps out the window to escape the scene of the crime. Who the hell thought something like this would be funny?!
    • Shadow 200: Besides that idiotic plot, earlier at a Veterans' Day parade they show two floats. The first one is labeled future casualties and deaths of war and has all black kids on it. The next after it is labeled guys who never got injured and features nothing but white guys on it boasting and bragging how they never got hurt. Seth, the next time you decide to make a race joke on how whites are superior, pull your head out of your rear and don't!
  • Kuku Inkblot: As a whole, I find Family Guy kind of tasteless, but "Back to the Woods" just stands out with me. The one where Peter switches lives with James Woods and goes on Letterman to promote "his" new movie. A comedy about 9/11 with David Spade as the airplane. That's when I stopped watching the show completely.
  • Emil Lang 1000: "The Former Life of Brian". The entire episode. Brian finds out he has a son who is older than he is, which is questioned all of once in the episode and then just taken at face-value from then on - this alone is annoying, but the episode sports perhaps the most egregious example of an Overly Long Gag in Family Guy history (the reigning king of said trope, at that) which itself isn't very funny to begin with, the whole episode is just bland and unfunny, it's rife with gags, Brian's Character Derailment is in full force here, ends in an Asspull-y and anticlimactic way... while there's nothing absurdly or particularly offensive about the episode, the thing as a whole is basically just a prime example of everything that's gone wrong with Family Guy since the revival and is generally just one of the laziest-written episodes in the show's history.
    • Kitschensyngk: How many of their writers were influenced by Monty Python? Influenced enough to include a scene where Brian's long-lost son subjects Meg to "the 178 hours of Monty Python that are neither funny nor memorable"? In the episode, which ironically references a Python film that is both funny and memorable? As a Python fan, this so-called joke rubbed me so hard the wrong way that it took some skin off. I haven't watched the show since. Sorry, Seth. Come back when you've got a bunch of feature films and a cult following longer than your arm.
      • Maxiboy 136: What's particularly baffling about this one is that Seth MacFarlane has cited Monty Python as being among his great comedy role models. In fact their influence can be clearly seen in Family Guy's own brand of surreal humour. So not only is the joke not funny, it also makes no sense in the context of the show. Why would the writers make such a mean-spirited joke about people they admire?
  • Young Princess Zelda: "Long John Peter". Don't be fooled by the title of this episode. The pirate thing is only 4 minutes long. All that happens is that Peter and his crew siege Mort's pharmacy, attack a british car, and that's it. They could've and should've made it the whole episode and if they wanted to keep Chris's plot intact they should've made it to where she got shanghaied or something.

     Season 7 
  • theLibrarian: "Horton Hears Domestic Abuse In The Next Apartment, But Doesn't Call The Police" in "Love, Blactually". That's the Cutaway Gag that cost the show what little respect it had from me. It was probably the most uncalled for, idiotic joke in the history of the show, because not only is it in really poor taste because it has a basis in reality, but the woman's screaming and there was a baby watching. No. Just... no.
    • Hotheart 123: I found that sketch really, really sickening. I'm not including it since it ruined a Dr. Seuss book for me. It was because it shows the elephant sitting on the couch, while flashback-inducing noises of domestic violence are heard. This is a sketch that disgusted me and enraged me more than the disemboweled whale gag. If they hadn't shown it after Stewie talked about the book, I wouldn't have been so pissed at the writers. Curse you, Seth Mac Farlane, curse you, whoever helped write the episode, and curse you, Family Guy.
    • Heldthemhanging: The "Laura Bush killed a guy" joke that just keeps going on and on. Maybe the most mean-spirited "joke" they've ever done. Not surprisingly, they didn't go for such low hanging fruit with Ted Kennedy when Brian and Lois went to Martha's Vineyard.
  • Dragon Quest Z: The "Nazis would support McCain and Palin" joke in "Road to Germany". I'm not a conservative, and even agree with a lot of the show's politics, but that kind of joke is the crap people like Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter would pull, and I don't take it from them, so I won't take it from this show.
  • Super Saiyan 006: I'm sorry but in light of the horrific tragedy at Newtown I'm going to have to bring up "Tales of a Third Grade Nothing" where at the beginning Peter accidentally blows up a hospital full of children; that already crosses the line but for the rest of the episode its never brought up again until the end and where he's in court and the Judge puts him in jail... for a week or whenever the next episode airs. And then Peter turns and has the smuggest shit eating grin on his face over what he did. Incidents like that which has happened with twenty children none older than 7 is not, never has been, nor never will be funny. And considering how he makes jokes about 9/11 down below I wouldn't put it past him to make an episode based on what happened for shits and giggles.
  • Happy Man: "Family Gay". How the "being gay is not a choice, and we should accept them the way they are" intended aesop was warped into "gays are amoral assholes that find partners easily replaceable and care for nothing but sex, and we should accept them the way they are". Because that's exactly what Peter says with his actions after becoming gay: he ditches his wife and family for a random guy named Scott, leaving them ravaged. Let's not forget that, apparently, being gay makes you want to bang ten guys at once. This shows how bad it is to preach in a comedy show, you simply can't be serious and funny at the same time. Oh, and the frosting of the cake was Lois saying, "I can't change your orientation, and I'd be wrong for me to try", when Peter's orientation was changed by the doctors through artificial means.
    • Deuxhero: Also, the "not a choice" bit gets combined with Peter having willingly chosen (with full knowledge it is what would happen) to have drugs that make him gay used on him.
    • Queensnyc2021: I thought this episode was shocking because it gives the off assumption that all gay men are attracted to every guy on earth. I'm a straight woman, and I know every guy I see at the store isn't checking me out. One of my best friends is a lesbian, and I know she doesn't like me in that way, she's admitted it. When Peter goes ahead and has a 13-way or whatever, it just sealed the deal for me that the writers aren't in the business for shock value, but something a lot more sinister.
  • Thormy: "The Juice is Loose" is an OJ Simpson episode. Hey, remember back in 1995 when that would've been funny? The episode was written to probably coincide with the rumors of the What if I Did Do It? book. But it seems in bad taste and a joke way too late to be really funny. Any episode after that is just awful.
    • Riddler J The extended Conway Twitty cutaway was the moment for me. That's when I realized that Seth and Co. knew they didn't even have to fill airtime with their own animation. That along with the pointless Stewie dancing with Gene Kelly for an entire sequence (which was just Stewie rotoscoped over Jerry Mouse) convinced me what a lazy crew the Family Guy team is.
    • erniebacon For me, it was the stupid throwaway ending in which OJ randomly stabs three people and runs off, with Peter saying "I guess he did do it." That was the exclamation point for an unfunny tactless episode.
  • mrjl: "FOX-y Lady". The ending where they just stop trying. Seriously, she revealed that the icon of the right wing was a fraud. Even if she also revealed the icon of the left was too, that'd still be a pretty decent reason for Fox News to fire her.
  • SNES Master KI: "Not All Dogs Go to Heaven", which can basically be described as an anti-theist Chick Tract, was the most jarring Dethroning Moment of Suck I have ever seen. There were so many Chick parallels; the old man in the sky "disproof" was similar to anti-evolutionist "I've never seen a monkey give birth to a human" sentiment, and after telling Meg her very existence proves no benevolent force exists, Brian tells her the physical universe is better than God, mirroring Chick tracts ending with "God is going to send you and everyone you know to hell for existing (one minute later) God loves you so much." I watched most of Moral Orel without getting offended (meaning I didn't see all of it, not that any of it offended me), so that should give some scope on how ridiculously hateful the episode was.
    • Grimace: The horrific icing on the mouldy, smelly cake to the above is that the same episode had a wonderfully silly sub-plot featuring Stewie's antics with the cast of Star Trek: The Next Generation. So not only was the main plot godawful (no pun etc), but they had an excellent opportunity for an episode of hilarious TNG gags that the audience would have loved, but they just wasted it.
      • King Cr Inu Yasha: If that isn't enough to get your blood-boiling, here's the kicker: Apparently the sub-story, not the atheism/Christianity "debate", was the one to be advertised on commercials, meaning FOX and/or the writers of the show, intentionally or otherwise, lured viewers with a somewhat interesting story and switched it with a Strawman argument on religion. As Confused Matthew once said, "Surprise! You're being preached at!"
    • Baroxio: The really worst part about it though, is that they could have given Brian an actual reason to be an atheist. But no, we get the Hubble Telescope and man in the clouds debunk. Seriously? That's the only reason to be an Atheist? This atheist troper thinks the episode is more insulting to Atheists than it is to Theists. The worst part though, was that even though they already threw canon out the window just to put this episode in, they all the sudden want to retain the fact that Brian is an atheist (and of "Jerome Is The New Black", itself a DMoS, the fact that Quagmire hates Brian irrationally).
      • 12blank: I agree that it's pretty demeaning to atheists too, but I don't think atheists had it worse. The worst atheists got in this episode was being portrayed as having silly arguments for their beliefs, theists on the other hand were painted as uncontrollably violent psychopaths that needed to burn/lynch everything that opposed their worldview and are so sheep-like that a few seconds of preaching from a theist can flame them into a riot and a few seconds of preaching from an atheist can turn them back in to civilized people. It's hard to argue that atheists had it worse when the episode actively tried to conflate theists with Nazis.
    • iheartmountains: Brian being shunned for his atheism was a bit funny as a Take That! at religious intolerance (although the intent was probably to establish Brian as a Sympathetic Sue); as was Meg being portrayed as a typical zealous but misguided Christian teen (too bad the The Fundamentalist stereotype is clearly how Family Guy's writers view all Christians). Initially, the episode's overall premise seemed decent, but I lost hope right around the "Worse than Hitler!" bit. Gah, lame. The peak of the episode's awfulness, though, was when Brian tried to explain why Meg's stab at religion was misguided and atheism is more logical. Sweet baby Jebus, worst argument for atheism I've ever heard. A loving God would've created Meg beautiful, and that disproves His existence? Not only did Brian objectify Meg by not for a moment entertaining the thought that her character could be more important than and compensate for her ugliness, but how is it God's fault that Meg is fat? And blaming God for her genetics, too? Fuck, this Christian troper could've come up with a way better argument for atheism. Also, as Grimace noted, the subplot with Stewie meeting the cast from Star Trek: The Next Generation was easily funnier than anything else in the episode. I especially liked Picard's lines. If only they'd scrapped the shitty main plot and stuck with that.
      • Matt Fisher NL: I concur. I especially hate the "Worse than Hitler!" chyron. This has to be the worst Family Guy episode I have ever seen. I'm a liberal who doesn't go to church and I am literally offended by this. It is offensive to Christians, atheists, all other religions, and Trekkies combined. At least South Park did better with the "Trapped in the Closet" Scientology episode. This episode sucks! I have actually credited Rowdy C's "TV Trash" review for why I hate this. It really is what this would be like if Jack Chick was an atheist. I could rant about the other argued DMoS instances, but this one is the absolute worse I've seen personally.
    • Gravityman: Another awful part of Brian's ending sentiment is that he says "Your mom looks like Lois. Do you think a benevolent God would make you look like Peter instead?" Even though 1) this isn't enough to convert the pavement you're standing on to a different religion, and second, Meg looks a lot more like Lois than Peter anyway. The only real physical similarity between Peter and Meg is Meg's hair color and need for glasses. They basically debunked and dismantled an entire town's religious belief system by playing into a teenage girl's informed ugly compared to her mother's Informed Attractiveness.
      • Lady Phantomhive: And Meg isn't even ugly, just frumpy. In fact, in an earlier episode she was stunningly gorgeous after a makeover — and considering the ease with which she gets boyfriends (and the occasional girlfriend), anyone remotely sane probably considers her attractive anyway. So all Brian is really saying is that any woman who doesn't meet his own incredibly shallow standard of perfection is a monster whose very existence disproves God.
      • Jade Eyes 1: The second part of Brian's argument is just as bad: "[W]hat kind of God would put you in a house where no one respects or cares about you? Not even enough to get you a damn mumps shot!" Uh, no; The Bible is full of stories about people who endure horrific circumstances, yet are ultimately vindicated because of their faith in God (for those who are unaware, there's an entire book devoted to the story of one of them, and it addresses this very subject). One of the most basic, universally-held Christian concepts is that God permits temporary suffering to help strengthen and shape your character. Any devout Christian, even a "baby" one like Meg, could easily shoot down Bryan's argument.
      • Mr Thorfan 64: Not only that but I don't remember Brian helping Meg earlier and in most episodes when she is being abused. So despite Brian trying to seem like a really moral person who tells Meg how wrong it is she being tormented by her family proving there can't be a God, he only complains about when it causes problems for him and is happy to go back to allowing abuse to happen if it doesn't inconvenience him. And Brian also shows he is willing to give up his supposedly "Moral stance" and pretend to be someone else just so he could get drunk. This episode really offends everybody (theists and atheists, though I understand who it offends me is up for debate) and has a massive Lost Aesop. The writers of this episode are the bigots here.
      • Midna: I don't watch Family Guy that much, but "Not All Dogs Go to Heaven" is the kind of episode that completely falls apart when you think about it for more than a minute. So Meg becomes a fundamentalist Christian, and Brian convinces her to drop it by providing evidence for why there isn't a God. Okay, fine. Preachy as hell, but people who don't like it can go watch something else or pretend the episode doesn't exist, and move on. But prior to this episode, and even after, God is a recurring character, as is Jesus, who is treated as the actual Son of God and not as some delusional weirdo. Yet, despite the actual, definitive existence of God and the confirmed truth of Jesus' words in the Family Guy universe, Brian still chooses not to believe in them. That's literally no different from insisting that the sky is pink, even though everyone you talk to says the sky is blue, and in fact you yourself know and have independently confirmed that the sky is blue, yet continue to insist that it's pink. I'm agnostic, so I'm not really in any position to discuss this, but the way it's written, Brian isn't just preaching atheist viewpoints but being deliberately contrarian for the sake of it even though he knows he's wrong—which doesn't exactly paint of the atheist community this episode tries to convince members of whichever organized religion to join in a positive light.
  • Main Man J: Peter accidentally killing Quagmire's cat in "420". Not only does he try to shave a cat, which is pretty mean to begin with (which Joe and Cleveland are on board with), he keeps trying long after he's killed it and caused blood to splatter all over the place in an Overly Long Gag that doubles as a gross-out moment, and a real uncomfortable one for cat-lovers (myself included). Then at the end of the episode, Quagmire is offering a reward for information about what happened to his cat, and Peter tells him he killed the cat and takes the money. That was what ultimately got me to stop watching the show.
    • Senor Incognito: Agreed big time. I gave up on Family Guy after that. As someone who loves animals, especially cats, I found absolutely nothing funny about this. Animal cruelty is a real problem, not something that should be used for a joke. Especially at the end, when Quagmire is distraught over the loss of his pet, just for that unfunny and downright unfunny joke. I'm sure anyone with a pet that they care about would see that situation was not funny.
      • Honorasa Stark: I agree as well. I was in utter shock that they did something gross and cruel. I skip this episode every time.
  • Kashima Kitty: Of the Flanderization and Character Derailment among the cast, the one that angers this long time Family Guy viewer the most is Lois. Whatever happened to the caring mother who went so far to give her daughter a decent spring break? The one who sicced Quagmire on the popular kids at that party? The episode that really pulls this to it's peak is "Stew-Roids" where Meg's lunch consists of an orange peel, the crusts from Chris' sandwich, and a photo of Lois eating a turkey leg with the most disgustingly smug smile on her face. Later that same episode, in a rather cold tone of voice, she hands her daughter a bottle of pills and a Sylvia Plath book and says "I'm gonna look away, and whatever happens, happens." I know Meg's the Butt-Monkey, but this is going too far.
  • Riceball22: "Three Kings" was pretty tolerable, but one part in particular bothered me. In the segment that parodies Stand by Me, the narrator (Peter) introduces the three male protagonists. It was bad enough that he mentioned that Quagmire's character lost his virginity at the age of five and committed his first rape at the age of ten, but he then goes on to say that rape was still legal in The '50s. Uh... I know the 50's had different attitudes towards gender, but even they had standards.

     Season 8 
  • Jamilee: "Road to the Multiverse". Specifically the part where Stewie and Brian traveled to the universe where Christianity never existed. By now I am used to Family Guy's constant and relentless gabs at religion, but this one goes beyond just bashing Christianity. In that particular universe Stewie and Brian observed that universe's Meg, looking more like a Playboy model than the supposedly unattractive teen we all know. She was dressed provocatively in a micromini skirt and tube top with her 36D breasts hanging out. Since I sincerely doubt that just not having a religion would make people be automatically born more conventionally 'attractive', that would imply that women in that universe routinely alter their bodies to be more attractive to men.
    • The Captain: What made it worse for me was that the size of her breasts was the only physical difference other than her haircut. Her overall body type and facial structure were exactly the same. So even if a woman is otherwise pretty hot, if she has small breasts she can only be seen as physically repulsive and no one will ever want her. But a boob job will make her acceptable. Yeah. Thanks for that.
    • Jonn: I hadn't watched FG for a while, until that episode came on, and I figured it'd be a lighthearted Stewie-Brian musical episode. Nonetheless, I said to myself that I'd see how long it was before the writer's views on religion and politics were shoehorned in. Four minutes. I haven't watched any of the new episodes since.
    • Known Unknown: This was also the point where Family Guy pretty much completely messed up in it's dedication to anti-religiousness. Lots of people who don't know their history like to say "religion caused the Dark Ages," but the real reasons are much, much more complex than that and, in fact, the only people hanging on to knowledge, science, and literacy in the Dark Ages were the religious in the first place. So not only is it a tired assumption, completely transparent, and more than a little subtly hateful; besides, it's also completely inaccurate.
    • Paul Douglas: I have a pretty high tolerance for Family Guy's particular brand of gutter humor, possibly because I share roughly the same spoken sense of humor as Seth MacFarlane displays in his standup and live action appearances. However, even I had to perform a facepalm when this episode wasted an entire segment, and special animation... Only to make the punchline of the Disney Universe the tired, untrue joke about Walt Disney being an anti-Semite (For those keeping score, Walt worked happily with numerous Jewish people and there is literally no actual evidence of anti-Semitism in his history.) What makes this worse is they've made this joke before (In tandem with the myth about him being cryogenically frozen) and it wasn't funny the first time.
    • Animeking 1108: The skit where Brian and Stewie go to the universe where Japan won WWII. They have the family as racist characters that would make Jar Jar look respectful. First, he tells Japanese!Meg to commit seppuku for being ugly, which she does, and then beats Lois for something stupid. This is why I'm convinced the writers hate Asians.
  • Demetrios: For me, "Family Goy" made me stop watching the show. The Broken Aesop at the end was bad enough on its own, but what really made me stop liking the show was Peter's attempts to kill Lois because of her newly discovered Jewish ancestry. Especially the tasteless "homage" to Schindler's List. I'm not going to mince words: Peter has officially become as insane as The Joker. And not the cool Joker from Batman: The Animated Series; the creepy Joker as portrayed by Jack Nicholson and Heath Ledger.
    • The Good Samaritan. I am Jewish, and I am almost certainly descended from Schindlerjuden (I've never researched it, but all things considered, it wouldn't be surprising). To see this episode was the equivalent of being punched in the face. Repeatedly. It's bad enough that they are playing one of the worst genocides in history for laughs, but to have one of the characters emulate one of the worst monsters in history, and attempt to kill his wife just because she's Jewish, as a fucking joke??
    • Generic Handle: My problem with this episode is how fucking stupid Peter is being. Yes, I know Peter's stupid as hell but this is a new low, he goes gung-ho into being Jewish, then he goes into full on imitating a Nazi. Also, it's entirely his fault, since this starts when the ghost of Francis comes and tells him to quit acting Jewish just because his wife is, since he was raised Christian and should stick with it. That's it. Francis' ghost literally says nothing about becoming anti-semitic and treating Lois like crap, he doesn't even hint at it. And yet somehow that's what Peter walks away from the scene with anyway.
    • Nara Numas: For some reason, what really got me about the episode is how much gusto Peter had to following Francis' orders. Peter had in the past feuded with and outright ostracized Francis for his bigotry and intolerance towards his protestant wife and he didn't apologize for it even when he died. Suddenly Peter is terrified of the thought of Lois dragging his family to hell by being Jewish, despite that, given Francis' personality, it's lip service he most definitely gave the family at some point in his life. This turn in Peter's character is yet another extremely frustrating strike against him, and also carries Fridge Horror about how Peter reacted to Lois connecting to her Jewish roots compared to her protestant worshipping.
    • Killerweinerdog : I'll be brutally honest: The first time I saw that scene and realized the reference, I laughed. Not so much at the scene itself (which I concede was completely tasteless), but more the sheer audacity of it all. But then when I got over it I felt absolutely disgusted with myself, and at Peter. "Just trying to make a point"? I mean, if you didn't hate Peter before, why not hate him now for literally threatening to shoot Lois if she didn't carry out her wifely duties and convert to Christianity? Oh, of course, there's the end where Seth Mcfarlane (again) takes a shot at religion by having Jesus Himself say its all bullshit, because obviously you can't have a Family Guy episode these days that references religion without the creator having to have his part in insulting it.
  • Kentucky Troper 1990: "Brian's Got a Brand New Bag". I. Hate. This. Episode. The second half anyway. I do find the Roadhouse gag slightly amusing (Don't judge me). So Brian starts dating a woman named Rita. A smart, nice, reasonably attractive woman. When the family finds out, they all take a massive level in jerkass, especially Lois, because Rita is an older chick (50. Less than a decade older than Lois if I remember correctly), and eventually drive her out of the house crying because of it. Brian goes after her, and proposes to her. A little rushed if you ask me, but it's Brian, annoying liberal mouthpiece, being a genuinely nice guy. But this being Family Guy, something has to derail this. When he says she isn't an old lady, and I mean the very instant he says it, she calls him, asking about dinner... at 4:30 PM. From there, Rita starts acting like a stereotypical old lady, even though she didn't do this at all before. And Brian loses all character progress by fucking a bar skank, while she is laid up with a broken hip. Seriously, I hate this episode.
    • Tropers/taylorkerekes: The DMoS for me in this episode has to be Peter beating up Lucy Van Pelt. I know Lucy is always a bitch for always pulling the football away from Charlie Brown, but, aside from the fact that Lucy is my favorite Peanuts character, she doesn't deserve such a harsh punishment from a grown-up who has to resolve certain situations with unnecessary violence, even when they have to sink to child abuse.
    • Rossmallo: Not to mention they did this once before. Remember when Lois was training in Karate in "Lethal Weapons"? She had the ball gag done on her there, which resulted in her kicking her in the face. I will admit - I got a laugh out of it there. But then they pulled that stunt with Peter kicking the crap out of her. Too far.
    • Fierce Artist: And then there's the cutaway gag where Peter mentions that Brian's girlfriend not dying was a bigger letdown than the Playboy Olympics Edition. Now that line in itself was unfunny, but then it cuts away to Peter looking at the Playboy issue more or less calling men-in-drag! Really? An episode that supposedly set out to challenge what men should find acceptable in the opposite sex has Peter calling Olympic athletes mannish? Sure the line is said by Peter, but that doesn't take away how horrible that gag was.
    • Tropers/Triterope: Even worse, this episode happened not long after "The Man with Two Brians", in which Brian's own aging was discussed at length. Rita is probably the first age-appropriate love interest he's ever had, and he's mocked for it.
    • Tropers/riceball22: One bit of dialogue that got me a little irate was when Brian was about to get out a condom so he could sleep with Rita for the first time and Rita reminds him that he doesn't have to use a condom because she can't get pregnant anymore, leading to him changing his mind. This irresponsible reasoning is why ST Ds are spreading among the elderly in real life. I know Family Guy isn't about setting good examples but jeez... Brian (as well as the show's writers) is intelligent enough to know better.
  • F Mfan: All these moments are very bad, but for me, the absolute worst moment was the very end of "Quagmire's Baby" where Quagmire gets a new adoptive daughter. Throughout the whole episode, Quagmire had shown compassion for his daughter, and made many sacrifices to keep her happy, particularly near the end. Real heartwarming material... until the very end. After giving up his daughter to another family so she could be happy, he then says something along the lines of "I'll see her again when she's 18", obviously going to have sex with his own daughter when she's of legal age. While everyone reacts with shock, he simply says, "You didn't think I'd changed that much, did you? Gigitty Gigitty Goo!". That was probably the stupidest and most unfunny thing ever on this show. That totally and completely ruined the entire episode. All of the heartwarming moments and all of Quagmire's character development were killed by that one line, and he was turned back into a smug and callous rapist like usual. That one line killed the entire episode for me.
    • Debbiechan: I agree with you. Really, that episode was being so heart warmer, Quagmire was starting to be a decent character... Until he deliberately implies that he can't change and that he'll have sex with his own daughter. Yes, we all know that Quagmire is a pervert. But come on, this is too much.
  • Kevin W: Before I begin, full disclosure: I'm a conservative Republican and yes, I've gotten offended by quite a few of the political jokes. Anyway, I've found Quagmire's speech to Brian in "Jerome is the Brand New Black" to be a DMoS for one big reason: it's an incredibly blatant and shallow attempt by the writers to stave off the criticisms of Brian as an Author Avatar. All it comes across as is them pointing to that speech and saying, "See? See? Brian isn't perfect after all!" I'm sure they realized the criticism Brian was getting, seeing as though post-revival they turned him into a colossal left-wing douche, and the speech just seemed like they were desperately trying to backpedal and head off that criticism. Sorry, but one speech can't make up for all of the jokes about how Christianity is responsible for all of the world's ills and Republicans are all developmentally disabled.
    • QuiteContrary: I changed my pick from Not All Dogs Go To Heaven when I rewatched this episode. I could care less about the importance of the speech and whether it revives and reinvigorates's the viewers love in Brian. Sure that was a cheap gimmick, that's not my problem. My problem is the fact that it's coming from Quagmire. First of all I agree with the other tropers, it's stupid that Quagmire suddenly has this blinding hate for Brian. Second of all even if Quagmire is occasionally funny, he's quite possibly the most morally bankrupt character of the show. I mean if the writers really needed for Brian to be read the riot act by somebody, why would it be Quagmire? This moment ruined Quagmire for me. That might say something wrong about me, that I was tolerant about the antics of a rapist and murderer, but at least he didn't imply, no state that he was morally superior to Brian. Brian's done some morally repugnant things to, even after this episode, but at worse he's an equal to Quagmire and shouldn't be looked down by him. Hate Quagmire now.
    • Max West: To me, Quagmire's breaking speech was more of an Ass Pull. This issue never really existed before. Prior to this episode, Quagmire was neutral or even somewhat friendly to Brian. Quagmire's dislike of Brian sounded so forced.
    • Krazy TV Watcher: Per above, it looks like I'm not the only one who's pissed off with the speech Quagmire gave Brian. Halfway through the speech, I literally dropped my jaw at all of the things Quagmire called Brian out on, all of which he himself is guilty of. At this exact moment, I have never felt so enraged that I wanted to punch Quagmire so hard in the face. Brian, however, stopped doing these things a long time ago. To top things off, that hypocritical bastard made Brian cry!
    • cartoonnetworkfan: Really, the one thing that irks me about the whole speech is the part where Quagmire accuses him of being a bad father for not seeing him as much anymore. Now I know for a fact that Brian isn't exactly the model father (There's proof of that like 4 seasons later) but I wouldn't want to hear that from somebody who implied at the end of the week before's episode "Quagmire's Baby" that he would visit his daughter when she reaches legal age to have sex with her (as the troper said above). So the gist of all this is not visiting your son for years is worse than thinking about having sex with your daughter in the future?
  • Shadsie: I think, like many, my DMOS would be "Not All Dogs Go to Heaven", but I actually watched a few FG episodes after that and even found some humor in "Road to the Multiverse". No, the moment that really tore it for me was a subplot at the beginning of "Dog Gone" where Brian runs over a dog and joins PETA. At the start of the episode, Brain learns he is to receive a "Special Reward" for his book. He goes to the location to find out that his book is beloved by developmentally disabled adults because of the "simplistic" nature of the writing. While this was meant to poke fun at his "I'm the best writer ever!" attitude, the fact that he whined about it endlessly and decided his life had no meaning really ground my gears. I mean, I've been trying to get original work published for years to no avail. I'd be happy just to get published. I'd be overjoyed if my work found a small audience - even an audience I did not expect. I'd feel privileged if my work helped the mentally challenged even though it wasn't written "for" them! I'm freakin' overjoyed that people like my fan fiction! The fact that Brian was being such a douchenozzle about his work having an audience that was apparently "beneath" him to the point of feeling his life was utterly meaningless solidified him as a complete Jerkass for me (yes, even beyond taking away the one thing that made Meg feel worthwhile because he thinks she's ugly).
    • Anufenrir: I will defend this show sedimentary for when it has a good moment, and "Jerome is the New Black" isn't a bad episode in itself with some funny bits with introducing the character... except for the obvious start of what could easily be what ruined the show for me. The entire Quagmire hates Brian thing is bullshit. For one, it's unfounded. Was it added to make the episodes more interesting? Because for me it just makes me loathe what the show can produce. When I see an episode that focuses on either character now, I pray that the other one doesn't show up to ruin the episode. Hell, even if the episode doesn't center around either of them, I still pray for them to not interact. Another reason this is the dumbest thing ever is that it is, as said many many times, entirely hypocritical. Even if what he's saying is true, Quagmire has no right to assume he's a better person than Brian. At least Brian tries to be a good person. Quagmire refuses to do anything but advance his sexual deviancy and is not below raping, lying about his ST Ds, tricking women into having sex with them without a condom (which has led to many illegitimate children which he is aware of), and has even stated he would sleep with his own daughter. Brian is at worse a hypocritical prick but harmless. (Also, can we stop calling Brian a bad parent? If I recall, he didn't abandon his son, Dylon went back to his mother on his own will after Brian improved his own life.) I cite this episode as the downhill point of the series. Sure there have been some good points that I've enjoyed, but it's not as entertaining knowing what these two characters can do to ruin an episode.
    • Maddoxsort: This is the one episode that caused me to swear off Family Guy: "Dog Gone", which centered around cruelty to and even murder of dogs. More specifically, the brutal murders of dogs and even a bisection of a pup. As a fellow dog-lover whose owes most of their happiness to the existence of dogs, seeing a whole episode about dog carnage was not just fucked up, but unforgivable. After that episode I couldn't return to show in good conscience knowing that some motherfucker thought it would be quaint to show a dog getting bit in half. And even though we have the "no animals were harmed" message, it does little to ease the bad memories when the warning airs after it's all said and done. Classic MacGyver was courteous enough to provide a message that the episode depicted a scene where an animal would be badly harmed (the black rhino poaching episode) but it was all simulated. How I wish the same went for here- "don't watch this episode if you hate seeing the brutal murder of dogs, because we're gonna cut one in half, and if you truly love dogs, please change the channel."
  • Matrixbeast: "Big Man on Hippocampus". The episode where Peter loses his memory. The worst part was when Meg makes a joke about wanting to have sex with Peter. A weird joke, yes, but the DMoS comes from the family's reaction. They treat this as though it's the worst kind of joke you can make, and repeatedly make it out to be a sick and awful thing to say. I hated it the most when Chris throws her out of the kitchen, because Chris has shown sexual emotions towards Lois, his own mother, on more than one occasion.
  • Regu 14: "Dial Meg for Murder" has one. Though I thoroughly enjoyed watching Meg kick Peter's ass twice, and all, a joke early in the episode nearly made me miss it. The punch-line was that Goofy, the kindest, most sweet hearted of Disney's characters is in hell for plotting 9/11. Because in his own words "That's what they get for supporting Israel." Speaking as someone who grew up loving the character, this was just sickening. FG really needs to learn that 9/11 wasn't, and will never be funny.
    • Boredman: Not to mention that it's once again another "Disney hates Jews" joke. Not. Funny.
    • Wingnut: I hate Lois in this episode. The one time Meg's family cared about her safety, and they did it all wrong. After Peter and Lois find out Meg is involved with a convict, Lois refuses to accept Meg's explanation and flat-out forbids her from ever seeing him again. A prison pen-pal project at school seems pretty legitimate, you know. After all the crap Meg suffered from the world, including you, I think she deserves a little bit of sympathy from you, and you give her none.
    • ninboy91: Oh, how I wanted to like this one. No doubt, Meg beating Peter up was epic, but did she really have to rape him in the shower shortly after? What pissed me off the most though was how bad Stewie got derailed here. How can a super-intelligent baby who went face to face with Osama bin Laden and Useful Notes/Adolf Hitler be afraid of his own sister who only became a thug after she was in prison? Brian doesn't get a pass either, sure in some episodes, he does come off as caring for Meg, but in others, he was in on the abuse as much as the others, so him trying to convince Meg to stop her actions just feels like Seth wanting to go back to how it was... badly! It's my least favorite episode ever.
  • This Is Madness 91: "Extra Large Medium" was the episode that made me decide to stop watching the show. At the end of the episode, a missing man has an armed bomb strapped to him, and Joe wants Peter to use his (non-existent) psychic abilities to locate him. Peter stalls for time, and even tries to get Joe to let him feel the missing man's daughter's breasts. When the bomb goes off, Peter bluntly admits to not really being a medium. I don't mind dark humor, but that was a bit too dark for my taste.
    • Fashionist State: In the same episode, Chris dates a girl with Down's syndrome. I found it was not the plot but the way they handled it pretty offensive and I'm not that easily offended. Okay, a lot of it was very much tongue-in-cheek but still...
    • Mhj0808: To add to that, lets not forget that after Joe informed Peter that the man's daughter was twelve, Peter then asks if she was a "little girl" or one of those 12 year olds who "got big boobs early from drinking milk" (!), and he appears fully intent on molesting her. What. The. Fuck. That's not funny, especially for me: I knew quite a few early bloomers back in 7th grade; they went to my middle school and got taken advantage of (and usually pregnant) by random adult drop-outs from the neighborhood. So, yeah, Seth shouldn't make making humor out of serious subjects a habit, or else he'll find those Nielsen ratings dropping sooner than later.
    • SickBoy: That whole "girl with Down's syndrome" subplot is worse than it seems on the surface if you really look into it. I'd long since abandoned the show for being unfunny when this one aired (the very first post-revival episode failed to make me laugh or even smile), but I caught wind of it on the internet, and what happened with this episode showed me what a self-righteous, humorless prick MacFarlane was. There's a joke in the episode where someone asks the girl what her parents do, and she says something like, 'My mom is the former governor of Alaska'. Real world fact, Sarah Palin's son does have Down's syndrome. So what's the joke there? If I were to explain the joke in plain English it would be, "Sarah Palin has a child with a disability". Yeah? And? That's not a joke; it's a statement of fact. So you can then reasonably assume that they were just trying to insult of Sarah Palin, with no regard for trying to make the joke funny or for it to even make sense. Palin is known for taking offense to just about anything, so they had to know they were picking a fight with her on this one, since the joke is totally forced and deliberately focuses on a touchy subject. Of course Palin responded, and that's when MacFarlane got on his famous soap box and fired back with his 'You're a hypocrite and I'm right!' defense and even went so far as coercing the actress from the episode note  into making a statement backing him up, dragging her into his mess and trying to use her to legitimize his immature behavior. That was when I realized that Seth and his writers weren't interested in making people laugh, they were interested in insulting and bullying people they didn't like under the guise of satire. And based on some of the episodes that've come out since, I'd say I was right.
  • Pagannerd: From "Go Stewie Go" where Meg dates "A completely normal boy!", when Lois, who in the past has always tried to be a good mother who looks out for her children, undergoes the final step of her jerkass Character Derailment by seducing her daughter's boyfriend, and then, when caught, claiming that he was raping her.
    • acidxbel: What really shat me is the incredulity that Meg could ever have a normal guy, and just how plain fucked up their relationship was - all because she's considered ugly. Meanwhile, Peter gets Lois, and Quagmire gets... a lot of people.
  • Guy In White: "Peter-assment". The episode where Peter gets sexually harassed by his boss, and Lois responds by saying women can't sexually harass men. This may just be a case of the writers making her ignorant on purpose, but it still gives the wrong message.
    • Ultra Sonic 007: Terri Schiavo: The Musical. Here's one of the lyrics: "Terri Schaivo is kind of alive-oh. What a lively little bugger... Terri Schiavo is kind of alive-oh, the most expensive plant you'll ever see." Yes, because mocking a person who died slowly by dehydration is just hilarious.
    • Water Magician: I generally don't mind Family Guy but the Aesop that it is ok to sexually harass someone if you are sexually frustrated is just awful. I really didn't like this episode for that reason and it is one of a very few that I refuse to watch.
  • Portal Fan: "Brian Griffin's House of Payne" wasn't my favorite episode but I still need to bash it. First of all, this was one of the few episodes where Brian wasn't a complete douche bag that was constantly trying to be a author type smart ass. It starts with Brian getting approval from Lois about a script, so naturally Brian decides to take the idea to a studio and it works. It nearly went perfectly, but James Woods had to come in and turn Brian's original and fairly good script into an immature sitcom while Brian tries to stop him from taking over his script. Once everyone gets to see his "pilot" they blame Brian for every thing and leave after insulting him for the awful episode. Okay, this annoys me because Brian nearly got Character Development but James Woods obliterates all chances of it and further Flanderizes Brian. And what is with that sub plot? Okay, so Stewie gets a head injury after Chris and Meg idiotically knock him down the stairs while fighting. Guess what? They hide the whole up and the sub plot quickly develops into Nausea Fuel as Stewie's head injury gets infected. It's "resolved" by Peter throwing the unconscious Stewie under the car while Lois drives it. No... just no. If you want to make something dark and disgusting funny, don't make the audience want to stop watching, because it's too disturbing.
    • Great Defender: I had an issue with this very episode as well, one thing in particular. When Brian is about to get his script published, he gives two men his script. It looks like they are about to call it horrible, but then say that they love it. A relieved Brian notes that he felt like Hitler there (a reference to a gag earlier with the exact same sequence but replace these two guys with one guy and Brian with Hitler). The two get silent and give a Flat "What". Brian repeats his assertion and asks if either of them is Jewish. The angle shifts to reveal that they both have particularly large noses. Brian immediately apologizes, but the men laugh and assure him that they are actually Italian. Then a caption appears on the screen reading "Italians are not Jews". This bugs me for a number of reasons. First, "I felt like Hitler" is a reference to the Cutaway Gag, which Brian had no reason to assume these Italian guys saw. Why would he expect them to understand the "joke"? He just said, "I felt like Hitler." Second, Jews were not the only group killed by Nazis. Gypsies, disabled people, GLBTQ+ people, atheists, and even Christians were also killed. Hitler is universally hated these days and Brian should not have immediately thought the men's silence was due to Judaism. Then they just laugh it off like they understood/were messing with Brian the whole time. And lastly, "Italians are not Jews"? Really? I happen to be both Jewish and Italian and am certain that this combination cannot be that rare. None of us appreciates our existence being completely denied. Family Guy? A baby with a pacifier called. The kid wants its "suck" back!
      • Baronobeefdip: The episode where Stewie cracks his head open and spends the entire episode with a coma and his brains falling out. Ok, people, there's Black Comedy, and then there's this. It's not funny; it's just cruel and disgusting. Remember, Black Comedy only works when it's so ridiculously over-the-top that it becomes hilarious. Stewie being seriously injured and/or dying is not ridiculously over the top and therefore is not hilarious. It'd be like someone stabbing a puppy and ripping out its intestines. That's just sick, man.
  • Ipdf3: The "Brian & Stewie" episode. You know the one. Brian gets locked in a vault with Stewie and what follows are the most unwatchable "humor scenes" in history. The only humor in that episode appears to be quite a few minutes of Stewie telling Brian to eat his poop and then Brian actually doing it. There were no laughs to be found in the entire first half of the episode. However, the serious scenes should have saved it, right? It should have, but it felt too much like Character Derailment. Brian has been occasionally unhappy but never showed signs of depression or suicidal thinking. And the last part, where Brian and Stewie admit they love each other after having spent the entire first half of the episode abusing each other, just felt forced. Bottom line: no humor and a very hollow emotional theme. Please Family Guy, stick to what you do best: raunchy offensive humor, not mediocre poop jokes and soap opera dramatics.
    • Solemn Dream: Personally I found the poop-eating part the most unwatchable. That's absolutely disgusting. I started watching Family Guy for Broadway-inspired pieces and Carter Pewterschmidt, not this disgusting crap.
  • Exorcise The Girl: "Quagmire's Dad" seems to completely destroy the whole supposed 'liberal and open-minded' views of the show. The whole family acts disgusted by Ida being a trans woman. I know it's not completely out of character for the family to be complete jerkasses but it was really shitty of the writers to do that just for the sake of some cheap jokes. It's made even worse when Brian (who is the most liberal and open-minded and Author Avatar for Seth MacFarlane who views himself as a gay, lesbian, and transgender activist) is so disgusted that he slept with Ida he pukes to an unrealistic extent. You know something's seriously fucked up when it's homophobic Quagmire who accepts Ida first being who she is. This again may be a personal thing for me (considering that I think transgender people are severely abused by society) but it's definitely proof that the show is complete crap. I can't think of why I was still watching the show.
    • Largo Quagmire: As someone who knows the very real discrimination that most transgender people still face by even the most enlightened societies, this episode was made all the more horrific to me when I realized the people who put their names on it. These are people who created the ridiculously-Aesoped "Family Gay", which created the most bizarre reasoning for supporting gay couples and the gay gene theory I've ever heard, yet their opinions on transgender people amounts to what? "Don't ever have sex with one or Glenn Quagmire will beat your head in"? "Transgender people are only worth mentioning to create fodder for jokes"? And, perhaps the worst assertion that the episode never gives any clear answer for, "gay people are all transgender on the inside"? This episode's complete idiocy transcends political bounds - it's downright cruel, thoroughly wrong about transgender people and their motives, and a hypocritical slide away from the liberal ideals that other FG episodes were content with shoving down our throats.
    • 45xxx: "Quagmire's Dad". I cannot, for the life of me, pinpoint one moment in this episode that was the worst of that piece of shit. The unfunny way it talked about sex change, the fact that Peter and Lois find it funny that Brain slept with Quagmire's "mom", even the end where Quagmire beats up Brian within an inch of his life. All of it was horrid, tasteless, and made me entirely give up on the series, especially Quagmire.
    • Brass Buttons: "Quagmire's Dad". I didn't really like the episode. Not from a Trans-bashing standpoint (that message was pretty clear too), but the writing. Is there a writer on the staff who hates Quagmire? It didn't really make sense from a story-telling standpoint. As per the character reactions, I wasn't surprised. I live in Rhode Island, where the show is set, and people's reactions vary. Even pro gay rights people are uncomfortable with trans people where I come from.
    • Mnt T 88: For me, it's not even the episode content in its own right that's the worst thing about it. Yes, Ida was looked down upon by Peter and Lois, and treated as less of a person, but unfortunately that's a sad reflection on how many people in real life would treat a transgender person. It's Seth MacFarlane's own comments about the episode. He genuinely considers it to be "one of the most sympathetic portrayals of a transgender character ever". Ignoring everyone else's disdain for her, that's still not true because before we find out she's trans, she encapsulates every 'camp gay male' stereotype that exists, and afterwards, her personality basically revolves around her being a trans woman. Its massive oversimplification of how transitioning works was also very annoying - since Quagmire supposedly hadn't seen his dad for years, it would have made sense for her to have appeared as Ida from the start, where she would explain that she's been living as a woman for a considerable time and is scheduled for a 'sex change' very soon. But no, they had to turn it into The Reveal and massively accelerate the process instead. Not to mention that Ida is able to have sex days after the surgery (in real life, trans women who have undergone a vaginoplasty have months of recovery before sex can safely take place).
    • Theta 1138: Probably the worst line of dialogue was the fact that Brian said "Aren't they supposed to go around and tell everyone in the neighborhood?" Equating sex offenders and transgender individuals is a shockingly bigoted and ignorant joke.
    • Bluebutterfly: I have a high tolerance for all the offensive and black humour in FG, mostly because, so far, everyone has been a target. Everyone has been portrayed unsympathetically and all ideologies have been mocked, though not equally. That's why when I watched "Quagmire's Dad", I was waiting the whole time for the subversion, for the tables to be turned on the transphobes and the marginalised group to come out on top (as happened in the episode with Jasper's marriage). I watched the opportunities for it slip by. Did Brian have to mind that Ida was a post-op trans woman? No. It would be in fitting with his preachy liberal character for him to defiantly not give a damn and drop the anvil on why. Instead, the episode shows that even Brian can't accept Ida, and thus of all the prejudice in the FG universe, the only people you can hate without any kind of comeuppance are trans people. And this is supposed to be a sensitive portrayal.
    • Cumbersome Turcel: At the start of the episode, Brian tells Peter and Lois about his seminar. They flatly tell him how uninterested they are and that they are fully prepared for his inevitable death and that he isn't part of the family. Remember when they actually considered him part of the family (to the extent that in the season one finale there was a trial about it) and how Peter considered Brian his best friend? This really highlights what awful, unlikable shits they've become since the show came back.
  • Alternatevil: "The Splendid Source", where Peter and company embark on a journey to find the source of the world's dirty jokes. It was a decent enough episode, still littered with plot holes, but still moderately enjoyable. That is, until the gang travels to Washington, D.C., and to the Vietnam War Memorial. There was a poor caricature of a Vietnamese man bragging to the mourners there about 'winning' The Vietnam War. Now I know that these writers are the kinds that pride themselves on the amount of hate mail they get, but this sincerely broke my heart. I thought, how dare they? How dare you! Vietnamese people are barely represented in the media as it is, and the few depictions are the sort of exotic smuggler gang of the week or as a Vietnam War retrospective (think generic flashback into combat in a jungle). How dare you propagate blatant racism on national television? Why cannot you look to us as ordinary humans and not some inane gimmick plot device? Plus it doesn't even make sense in context. The Vietnamese guy is just randomly at the war memorial? Why? Just to brag? And why does he look like he's 30 when he apparently fought in the Vietnam War?
    • Sick Brit Kid: What made that joke the final DMoS for me was the disgusting disrespect Hentemann made toward our servicemen and women. Why Hentemann didn't then show the two veterans beating the living shit out of that man is beyond me, but... really, Hentemann? That's the best "Vietnam" joke you could come up with? I mean, seriously, you made Hitler's final days during World War II into some of the funniest jokes in Western Animation, and the Simpsons knew how to exploit Skinner's traumatic stint in 'Nam to a laugh every time... and that is the best you could come up with!?
    • Kellor: This is my DMoS for this show as well, and I'd like to add that it was also immediately preceded by another terrible joke: they guys point out the Washington Monument, and then the "Obama Monument", which is bigger and black. The Simpsons did the same joke in 1995 with a Clinton Monument, only it was actually funny back then because Clinton is known for his sexcapades.
    • Crazy Luigi: I didn't like that joke either, but the Dethroning Moment of Suck in that episode was the ending. A random old man says that he finally got down the perfect dirty joke, and then he suddenly dies due to a heart attack or something like that. Peter then steals his dirty joke and bargains with the Secret Order of Dirty Joke Writers: Peter and his friends leave and in exchange, they hand the group the perfect dirty joke. Peter then burns down the club, killing thousands of people in the process... and the perfect joke was "Guess what? Chicken butt!" That was not only a poor joke that King of the Hill's Buckley did about ten or so years earlier, but also yet another completely pointless ending where even I could come up with a better naughty joke! Hell, I bet you that even the Secret Order of Dirty Joke Writers wouldn't like it.
      • Brainiac0982: I found that the true DMoS was right after that. Paraphrased, Peter said, "Well, you sat through all this, so as a reward, here's a monkey scratching itself. Some charity for cancer kids or something wanted this airtime, but we said screw you." It's like the creators are saying, "We know this episode sucks, but we can't think of a half-decent joke to end it on, so here's some immature stock footage."
    • The Lucky Cat: I didn't think "The Splendid Source" was such a terrible episode, but there was one moment in it that truly pissed me off- the scene where Peter, Quagmire, Joe and Cleveland end up in a library full of the smartest people in the world. After being introduced, Peter says, "Not a lot of women" and the other guy agrees with him. What the hell, Family Guy writers? Is this just a Most Writers Are Male thing? Why was that line there? It's not funny, it's fucking offensive and lazy that they just completely ignored any accomplishments of women for the sake of a cheap one liner.

     Season 9 
  • K Oman: "Excellence in Broadcasting". Before I continue, let me introduce myself as in the middle of the political spectrum, so my issue with this episode is not merely that Brian goes extreme right-wing; it's that Brian does so because spending a single night reading a book by Rush Limbaugh shoots him from an liberal blowhard to the opposite extreme, where he now regards his former liberal beliefs that he held so highly as idiotic. He now refers to MLK as "a famous troublemaker", despises Muslims, insists aborted children should be shoved back up their mothers, and attempts to water-board Nancy Pelosi. Limbaugh's refusal to do this last one provokes Brian to basically say that he's not a true conservative if he doesn't viciously assault liberals... again, the side he was on until recently. The episode convinced that no matter what political side Brian's on, he'll always be an arrogant prick to the opposition.
  • flashsucks: The Halloween Episode "Halloween on Spooner Street" became proof that the writers have completely forgotten about the characters. If Stewie from season 1 got his bag of candy stolen, he would have probably just whipped out his ray gun and incinerated those kids. This Stewie, a.k.a Gay Stewie, acts completely helpless and goes to Brian for help — and actually considers killing those boys to be too much. The same character who once kidnapped and tortured a seven year old for stealing his bike acts like that over this? Come the fuck on!
    • Mo: At first, I was pretty neutral with the Halloween episode due to liking a few parts of the plot of Quagmire being pranked, but that is pretty much ruined by how Meg's subplot ended. To elaborate, she was playing "spin the bottle" at a party and she got into the closet with a guy in an Optimus Prime suit. Normally, I would expect either the guy being ugly or running out screaming, but nope! It was Chris, in the closet with her! That resulted into the most painful scene I had to sit through because it was a blatantly disgusting joke even by the show's own standards.
  • Kalpal: For me it's "Brian Writes a Bestseller". For one, the week before it aired, it was billed as an episode full of Bill Maher (which if you have ever seen how funny Seth can be with Bill Maher, you'd be pissed too); but instead, the guest star gets less than 30 seconds. Bonus: We're supposed to be enraged at Brian because he wrote a pro-religion book that he doesn't believe in, even though he has behaved far worse than that on a regular basis.
    • Calamity 2007: Not to mention Brian's treatment of Stewie in this episode. Stewie helps promote Brian's book, and in thanks, Brain becomes a horrible Jerkass, even getting pissed when Stewie couldn't prevent Brian from sitting next to an Asian guy on a plane (which in itself makes Brian look like a horrible racist). At the end when Brian suffers the aforementioned humiliation, he still fucking blames Stewie and learns nothing from the experience! And no, lampshading it does not fucking help it!
      • Magic Man: The worst part is the fact that Stewie just stands there and takes it like some whipped dog! When has Stewie ever just put up with Brian's crap in the past? Even at the end when the status quo is returned, it just makes it look even more awkward because it's just inconsistent characterization. One minute he's with Brian, he's all smug, confident Stewie (his usual self), the next he's just some simpering little toady.
    • Ace Of Places: I'd like to add the "Guy in a coma" gag from the same episode. It wasn't funny, it was overly long, and it was just uncomfortable to watch. I don't even know what the hell they thought they were going for, but neither the premise nor the material was funny and two wrongs do not make a joke. I mean, seriously.
  • Mogo: "Road to the North Pole" had a good Space Whale Aesop by the end but the sheer uncomfortableness of it ruined it for me. But the absolute worst part of it was Brian and Stewie breaking into someone's house to deliver presents. Word to the Family Guy writers: It is not funny to kill some random person, show his wife's panicked reaction, then kill her in front of their daughter and tie her to a chair. This is just sick and horrifying.
    • bobdrantz: The whole episode was a DMOS for me. First of all, there was yet another "Brian VS Quagmire" fight, yet this one was completely unnecessary (Seriously, Brian made an honest mistake that anyone could've made. No need to get pissed at him, Glenn). Second, it was way too dark to the point where watching Hitler shooting puppies would've been an improvement. Finally, the message was far too preachy and rivals the infamous "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven" in terms of preachiness. Santa Claus is dying and the North Pole is in ruin because people are greedy? Really? Really? It was a goddamn holiday episode, Seth. That's not the place for this sort of preachiness, especially not the message you were trying to get across.
    • Shizari: Honestly, none of the above examples have ever made me disown Family Guy. Maybe that just makes me one of the biggest idiots out there, but that mall scene... my God, that mall scene. I know they established that Quagmire hates Brian... but for the love of God. Quagmire could have told Brian all this to begin with, but he didn't. It's like he intentionally let Brian play with the Idiot Ball long enough to give him enough ammo to unload on Brian with. And when poor Brian tried to dig himself out of the hole, Quagmire forces him back in.
    • Kait0n: Santa's elves are inbreeding, Santa is suicidal, the reindeer eat Santa's elves, and Santa has a massive factory that produces tons of toxic waste. This is not dark humor, or any sort of comedy: this is just being shocking for the sake of shocking people.
    • Vir: I have a deep loathing of Brian in this episode, namely from him nonchalantly raiding that family's house for food and promptly killing the father and leaving his wife and child to rot. And the ending, where he convinces everyone they only need one gift. Assuming they literally get only one from any person it eliminates the "giving" part of the holiday and leaves behind the ugly "receiving" part. I now want a real life Dartboard of Hate of Brian.
    • The Real CJ: Okay, we can all agree that Quagmire chewing out Brian that one time was pretty damn cool, if not very subtle, but did we really need to see a repeat performance of that crap here? We get it, Quagmire hates Brian. But watching him shit on an obviously repentant person who made an honest mistake was just painful and stupid.
    • Exarchof Sechrima: My friends are all fans of Family Guy and I usually am too, but for Christmas a few years ago we decided to watch this episode without any of us having seen it (big mistake) and while we watched the episode and laughed at some of the jokes, when it got to Brain and Stewie killing a guy and tormenting his family, it grew so uncomfortable that one of my friends actually began crying. That entire plotline was disturbing and unnecessary.
  • Looney Luver: "New Kidney in Town". After Peter drinks a Red Bull replacement concocted with kerosene after Lois got rid of his supply of the real thing, he has kidney failure and has to go on dialysis treatments to stay alive. He skips an appointment one day, and now he's gonna die if they can't find a donor. Guess who offers Peter one of his kidneys. Yes, Brian. The episode is such a giant Rescued from the Scrappy Heap attempt it's sickening. Peter is going to be saved by Brian, who would willing lay down his life to save him... and in the end... it doesn't fucking matter. The doctor donates one of his kidneys and says, "Oh, we couldn't use your kidneys anyway because you're a dog".
    • Do Make Say Think: I stopped watching Family Guy some time ago. That being said, I hated this episode, for reasons that have been brought up before.
    • Belfagor: You can count me in as well. While still thinking that "Road To The North Pole" is the worst overall episode, I must say this episode contains the biggest singular DMoS ever in the end, which makes every attempt to save the episode vane, along with turning the doctor into a big Jerkass after portraying him as sympathetic and professional during the episode.
  • Tyrekecorrea: In "And I'm Joyce Kinney", there's a news segment about a boy named Angus Reed, who has cerebral palsy. Tom Tucker says that he looks weird, and asks his co-anchor Joyce about the life expectancy of people with cerebral palsy. Her response? "You never see a gray-haired one." The only thing to offend me on this show in twelve years. A lot of people with disabilities live long, meaningful lives. This kind of thing doesn't help them get any further. All of the battles with the Justice Department and local municipalities, and then this? Just... ugh.
    • Flan Master of Redrum: Personally, I just thought the entire episode sucked! For an episode that has an interesting premise (a Christian mother revealing that she was a porno actress to a news anchor, who soon reveals the secret to all of Quahog), the jokes just fell flat on their ass, the Breaking the Fourth Wall joke just makes me want to groan in pure disappointment, and, wouldn't you believe it, the Black Hole Sue Brian helps out someone in the family once again. Oh, but wait, turns out another Author Avatar in Peter gives his two cents on his shit as well. Can we just say that Peter's freakin' Mary Sue 2.0 of Family Guy here?
  • gongoroth: The biggest DMOS for me is in "Friends of Peter G.". After Brian makes a passing comment about how people 'were fine for thousands of years without religion,' we see a few peaceful BC-era characters suddenly begin killing each other at the announcement of Jesus' birth. Although the show has got plenty of biased/hateful/generalizing attempts at humor such as this, this in particular is a DMOS because it suggests MacFarlane's vast ignorance (or else, inexcusable carelessness) on not one but two ideas. First, it implies that there had been no war before Christianity. I would say you could read the Bible to find out that's false, only I thought it was completely common knowledge that war has existed since practically the beginning of humanity. Secondly, it's almost as if the show is actually saying there was no religion before Jesus. If MacFarlane has ever so much as heard of the Ancient Egyptians, Greek mythology, and mainly, Judaism, he should know far better than to assert Jesus' birth as the beginning of religion. Despite the many cheap shots at religion on this show, this one felt the most pitifully ignorant and/or misinformed - far beyond justification.
    • DL Abaoaqu: "No religion before the birth of Christ?" Geez, not since Superman: At Earth's End said Hitler was the reason wars exist.
    • L Bcrimson: Out of all the times FG has done something somewhat stupid in regards to religion, this is one of the worst. I mean, the guy just suggested to Peter (who is Catholic) to take the religious route to solve his issues and Brian flips the fuck out! Not to mention the cutaway gag didn't make a lick of sense in pertaining to what was going on; it's like a drive by middle finger at Christians. Oh, and let's not get started on Brian's solution which was "Hey, if our loved ones don't know we drink, everything will be ok"! Hiding your issues makes anyone who goes along a liar to their family. On top of that, you are still putting yourself and others in danger! And guess what! Peter (for a short time) dies in this episode because of this idiotic solution!
    • Forced Dj 7: Like what the other 3 tropers said, this has gone too far. Back in Season 1-3, Brian was the more reasonable person while Lois was more caring; now, we are stuck with the screed-spouting, bias-barfing, ego-driven douche bag he has become. Does that fucking dog need another beatdown, maybe from Lois? I think so after claiming everyone was doing fine before religion (by the way, I can name a good amount of wars in which religion wasn't involved), and suggesting that they drink beer in A.A, while fooling their friend into thinking they are being cured (there is something wrong with playing a piano while there is a picture or a cross in the same room isn't there), yeah, deserves another beatdown.
    • quackeytrope: For me, it was when Brian (as if I couldn't hate him enough already) says that there was no war or violence until Jesus was born. Cut to a gag taking place in Biblical times: Two men are talking to each other about how peaceful the world is, and another man comes up to them telling them about the recent birth of a newborn infant named Jesus. The two men immediately stab and kill each other violently in an a transparent attempt to drive home the point that all human conflict is the direct result of religion. Have these writers even so much as looked in a fucking history book?! I've seen a lot of shows that do something offensive to tell a joke, but that was not a joke! That was just plain religious intolerance! Family Guy has done a lot of terrible "jokes" over the years, but this has got to be, without a doubt in my mind, one of the absolute worst things they've ever done. It's like they weren't even trying to tell a joke. It was just the writers showing complete hatred towards a religion.
      • Radimir: The stupidest part of this 'joke' is that it implies that, prior to the birth of Jesus, religion didn't exist. So not only is the joke unfunny and stupid, but it literally does not make any kind of historical or logical sense.
      • Gr3mlinify: I never took this episode as evidence that the writers were actually being serious about "religion causing all of the world's problems." I just saw this gag as an exaggeration of that rationale. Either way, still not very funny.
    • Twilight Crow: For me, this episode had a moment of Fridge Horror. Namely, I realized that the whole episode was one long Blame the Victim on addicts. Think about it: Brian calls out everyone in AA as being weak willed and trading one addiction for another. They all start drinking again (which kills Peter). Then, they present the solution as being moderation, as if that's the only reason for alcoholism. Knowing people who have been through AA and now live nicely adjusted lives as well as people who are serious alcoholics, I have to say this was where I just stopped. I agree with moderation, but for alcoholics, the solution usually isn't to moderate. They call that bargaining.
    • The Supine Lupine: In addition to the complete failure to understand addiction and alcoholism, there was another bit that bothered me. When Death takes Peter on a "this is your life!" journey, he shows an alcoholic Peter turning into a monster, leading him to swear off alcohol completely. Death says (paraphrased) "Wait a minute; before you go that far, let's see what that would be like," and we see a flash-forward: He comes home and the family lines up for hugs, with each one of them happy to see him. After a minute, Peter says something to the effect of "Wow, what a douche." Wait, so being a pleasant person is "douchey", and it's better to be an irresponsible and abusive manchild who routinely harms and endangers his friends and family, instead of a kind and friendly (if slightly boring) father whose family loves to be around him? I know it's part of Status Quo Is God and I'm sure it was supposed to be a We Want Our Jerk Back plot, but it still comes across like Family Guy is set in Bizarro World, where common sense and decency are punishable by death.
    • Lionheart 0: Even ignoring the Religion Bashing, Brian's rant on Alcoholic Anonymous being pointless was one of the most blatant pieces of Writer on Board the show has had. The show completely downplays the addiction behind alcoholism and attempts to rationalize that Support Groups are the real addictions.
  • Tropers/Sciencejoe: I officially felt like turning off the TV and never using FOX again when an evil Stewie clone tore a woman in half for no reason.
    • Tropers/excaruso: That episode "The Hand That Rocks the Wheelchair" was an entire mess. But the main plot with Meg liking Joe was a bigger turnoff for me because not only did I find it rather creepy, but it just got ridiculous when Meg drives all the way to the airport after dark to get Bonnie arrested by smuggling a gun into her bag. Then, because she finds out she and Joe have nothing in common, what does she do? She throws herself in front of a car to get hurt. It's one thing to be a Butt-Monkey, but to cripple yourself and get your neighbor's wife arrested just had an unpleasant message to it.
  • Bored Me: You know... as a rule, if a comedy doesn't make you laugh, it should at least bring a smile to your face, and maybe alleviate your bad mood. Anymore? This show actually takes my good moods and makes them bad. "Trading Places" was just horrible. A "Carter smashing things" side-joke which had several directions that it could have gone in and been hilarious turned into another drawn-out non-joke, yet another member of the Griffin family Took a Level in Jerkass, and overly real reactions to cartoonish gags were liberally applied, while somehow miraculously avoiding any thread of logic in the main plot (the Griffins should be happy; after the lawsuit they have on their hands against Pawtucket Brewery, no one will have to be the breadwinner anymore). Not even getting into the police sketch cutaway. It's time for someone to be responsible with this mess. And by the by? That buck does stop with Seth MacFarlane. While I am glad to see that a lot of the venom is starting to be deflected from Seth to the writers, let's not go overboard with it: Remember, Seth could have vetoed any of the more offensive/unfunny jokes of the writers at any time.
  • Lightning Storm 93: A relatively mild one when you compare it to the rest of the entries on this page, but I was sickened by the ending of "Tiegs for Two". The basic premise is that Brian joins Quagmire's class on picking up women in the hopes it'll help him get with a girl he likes. It doesn't. Blaming Quagmire, he steals the woman of Glenn's dreams, Cheryl Tiegs. In revenge, Quagmire steals Jillian from Brian. Long story short, they end up with neither, and they seem to bury the hatchet. As Brian realizes that he needs a ride home, he asks Quagmire for one, who smiles, and then drives off without Brian. This I was expecting, but Quagmire reverses full speed into Brian and then drives off. I was just sickened at the sight of it.
    • LL Smooth J: Yes! Dear god, yes! At the end of the episode, I thought that after going through what they've put themselves through that night all for petty revenge they would find a new found respect for each other as the realized that they were Not So Different. Instead, Quagmire commits what's basically murder with a smirk on his face. I mean sure I enjoyed Quagmire's "The Reason You Suck" Speech to Brian (Let's be honest, he did have it coming), but enough is enough!
    • Xydrate: This is the episode that has the worst moment I can recall that actually brought me to tears and I had to change the channel, the cutaway gag featuring Michael J. Fox was one of worst things I've ever seen on that show. Peter said something like, "This is worse than when Michael J. Fox was a waiter" and it cuts to him carrying a tray full of drinks, then he shakes and drops and breaks them. Really? How is that funny? I started crying when I saw that is not funny at all. I absolutely despise Seth for okaying that, why would he?
    • Tropers/skullsnsouls91: actually that's not what happened, at first Peter says he isn't going to show the clip, rather he explains what Parkinson's disease is and explains the cutaway gag; then a bit later into the episode out of fucking nowhere he decides to show the clip anyways. Debatably that just makes this "joke" worse. At first you're like "okay that's a rather tasteless joke to make, but good on them for not showing the clip." Then when they do show it you just go:"oh fuck you too. Here I am thinking you guys were going to at least try to be somewhat sensitive to the guy but then you turn the fuck around and show us the clip you said earlier you WERENT going to show."
    • Mo Pete: Just a minor correction. It was actually being at Michael J. Fox's wine tasting. This in no way detracts from all unnecessary this scene was. Especially with the ridiculously long lead-in with Peter's explanation of the "joke" and how the show's going to take the high road and not show it, only to turn around at the end and show it anyway. The lead-in was a minute long, for a so-called "joke" that lasted all of five seconds.
  • Tropers/Nekogal: Maybe not as bad as some other instances on this page, but "Foreign Affairs" just well and truly sucked. I laughed two times in the entire episode, and they were the same joke both times ("This is how my classroom shall run!"). Other than that we had unfunny nationality jokes, unfunny jokes comparing disabled people to animals, Lois trying to take the moral high ground over Bonnie and, once again, proving herself a hypocrite (What's that? It's bad to cheat on your husband? Well thanks for your input, Miss tries-to-sleep-with-your-daughters-boyfriend). And one joke which was just awful... a joke which took Overly Long Gag to new levels of bad... a joke I can only describe one way. Ladies and Gentlemen, the new Conway Twitty gag.
    • mpd011 : Agreed. Never did I imagine the writers would be lazy enough to insert the whole damn "Dancing in the Street" music video just to tell us that it's gay. And a flash-quality video on top of that. That's not how you tell a joke, that's just an excuse for getting my mom to watch your show.
    • O Zone: Besides the pointless "Dancing in the Street" music video, which killed time that could have been used for funnier jokes, I'd like to also add that "Muppet-Style Sightseeing" scene. YMMV on this but really they couldn't have animated a short little montage so they had to use puppets for it instead? Even if it was part of the joke, I can't help but wonder... to be honest the whole plot itself is kind of off putting. Going to Paris so you can have a affair? Couldn't they think of a better reason to go and then somehow work in the affair?
    • Krapfen: The American Dad opening sequence, with Joe in Stan's place. It's shameless self-promotion in the form of another gag from this debacle of an episode, and for Family Guy viewers who don't care for American Dad, it's also unfunny, groan-inducing Padding.
  • Ultima Thule: Next up in the never-ending chronicle of how massively the show fails: "It's a Trap". I somewhat enjoyed the first two parodies, but aside from the pillow fight and Planes, Trains and Automobiles gags, this was just painful. Where do I start? The general mood that the creators phoned it in? The unfunny tangent in the opening crawl? The nodding gag that goes on for a full minute and a half? The Seth Green bashing? And, of course, the lack of jokes aside from tired references and beating the "we phoned this in, we didn't want to do this" shtick to death. To quote Peter, "For crying out loud, somebody throw a pie!" Seth MacFarlane, you may not like Robot Chicken, but they actually try with their parodies. Somebody tell him to put the show on hiatus for a while until he remembers how to be entertaining.
    • terlwyth: I enjoyed the parody of Return of the Jedi except for two things. The first, the death of Darth Vader which was for a while faithful to the movie, but then they made Chris/Luke kill him by snapping his neck! Damn it, that's just not funny; especially considering Return of the Jedi was my favorite of the saga and that scene was moving originally. Also the cutaway gags sucked. Fantastic episode otherwise, really enjoyed the big Take That! to Seth MacFarlane himself and how he ripped off The Simpsons, although it was also a missed moment of awesome because time could've been used to mention Brian Scully, producer of this episode and writer of some Mike Scully era Simpsons episodes. [Scully era is generally considered Dork Age].
    • Endocrom: I tolerated the pot shots at the Ewoks and the general phoning-it-in of one of my favorite movies, but what broke the camel's back was the part where Peter/Han freaks out and forces those troopers to dig their own graves, all the while they are crying for their lives. Just too dark, it kills the mood.

     Season 10 
  • Cookie Man: For me, it would be "Lottery Fever". There's one particular scene in the bar where Peter asks for some beer and "has his favorite Russian waiter do it." What do we get: The freaking Trololo song. Seth MacFarlane not only ran out of jokes, but had to resort in using various overused and recent memes.
  • anoni: "Seahorse Seashell Party" turned out to be one. I was excited for it since Meg finally stands up to her family. She does, but guess what happens? Brian convinces Meg that she's the only thing keeping the family together. That's right, apparently constantly abusing Meg is the only thing that keeps the Griffin family from killing each other. So what happens next? Meg apologizes and says she was just taking her problems out on everyone, she returns to being a chew toy, and nothing fucking changes. Meg had nothing to apologize for. Between that, and Brian's mushroom induced acid trips, this became the worst of the 3 hurricane episodes aired.
    • rednessamon I agree completely. We finally have an episode where Meg tells off everyone (which they deserved, by the way), and in the end, it's all back to normal? Giving Meg the justice she so very much deserves, then having it taken away again is nothing short of a dick move.
    • flyingdingo0827: I agree as well, especially the ending of it. It ruined the one chance that Meg had to finally get some respect from her family and actually have her life improve beyond the sad, lonely existence of the resident punching bag but no, we can't have her too happy or else we lose a large percentage of our jokes. Of course, the family going back to hating Meg and blaming her for their problems just by existing was just there to add insult to injury.
    • Aquila 89: Agreed. So, the family needs to abuse Meg to stay together? Then it shouldn't stay together! It's basically saying that a bunch of horrible, selfish bastards need to abuse a nice person, because otherwise, they abuse each other. So what? Screw them!
    • Dynamite XI: It's difficult to choose just one DMOS in this show, since it's been mostly mean-spiritedness and political/bigoted diatribes since the revival, but every so often it draws me back in—only to push me away again, which is why I chose "Seahorse Seashell Party". Family Guy is at its best when it deconstructs itself, which Meg does gloriously when she calls out her abusive family. Yes, in a sane world, these people would be branded lunatics, and Meg articulately enunciates every one of those arguments against the Griffins (along with a great performance by Mila Kunis while doing so). This episode could have been a neat way to write Meg out of the show (the writers have repeatedly stated that Meg became the designated Butt-Monkey because they don't know how to write a teenage girl), but instead it shifted back to Status Quo Is Godnote  as a way to try and justify nonstop character abuse. It was bad writing, frankly. (Also, I'll add a nitpick by saying that the "fingerbang" joke was already done on South Park, and it was better there.)
    • azul120: The Silent Scapegoat approach reminded me of the Zero Requiem ending of Code Geass, in that it was utterly preposterous. Not for the reasons aforementioned. No. Lois was actually brought down to tears in a moment of realization, leading her to subsequently call Peter out on his abuse of Meg in response to being berated by him for crying. It was Peter's subsequent JerkAss Manchild tendencies alone that made things spiral downward, yet that wasn't addressed for a single moment. Yep, once again Peter is a JerkAss Karma Houdini.
    • E Teezey This was initially my favorite episode, right up until the end. It's also my only complaint, seeing how I forgive the show because I too have the same kind of humor it does. As for Brian, he was actually proud of Meg. Seeing how he's probably the second Butt-Monkey in the family, it fit that he understood where she was coming from. I wanted her to basically just leave and find her own way without her family. Instead, they took a sea-change moment and nullified her epic "The Reason You Suck" Speech.
    • j03b0b0fd00m: Seriously, fuck this episode. I stopped watching Family Guy a long time ago (It was the no war before religion/no religion before Christianity one that got me originally), and was in the same room as my sister — who still watches it — when this episode was on. For once, I thought it would actually have an engaging plot and legitimate character development, but then it got Chuck Testa'd. I wasn't pleased.
    • GAP: I didn't think the episode was too bad but still he just wishes that the writers didn't choose this episode for Meg to stand up for herself. I don't hate Meg and I believe the family needed a wake up call but still in the same episode Brian was on drugs and he was off his rocker. They could have stuck with that but they used this episode to deliver the speeches. I'll agree with Meg on this; every member of this family, even Brian, needs to grow up and stop acting like morons.
    • darkwulf23 I know that everybody else made the same argument, but screw it, I'll say it anyway. What the writers believed that the message was is that Meg is a hero for letting her family abuse her so that they do not take it out on each other. What the message really says is that someone might as well stay in the abusive relationship because if they aren't taking their anger out on you, then they are taking it out on someone else. That's bullshit and no one should have to put up with that crap. Every person in that family should be convicted of emotional and physical abuse and have their family dissolve. Even Brian who sees it and does nothing should suffer some sort of karma backlash.
    • romanatorX: The entire episode was wretched, and was the exact moment when the somewhat whimsical, actually funny tone, of the original series died forever. There was one good moment during the entire 30 minutes (Meg calling out the family). The nightmare fuel scene was just gross, disturbing, and something out of a horror movie. The last 2 minutes may be the worst thing ever to air on the FOX network. The message does not bear repeating, but let's be real here, it was rampant with unfortunate implications. What was particularly staggering, however, was Meg actually calling Peter a "decent" father. Lois has a sort-of Freudian Excuse (her Jerkassery probably rubbed off from the others, such as Carter), but Peter? The very same man Meg, earlier in the episode, rightfully said about that "should be in jail"? And it felt like the writers were sincere here, which is honestly the most unnerving thing about "Seahorse Seashell Party".
    • redjirachi: I hate this episode more than any other because of what it says about the writers. They are aware of the complaints about the show, and giving how devastated the Griffins were, they know that they're valid. They could have very easily used this to write Meg out, which would be a quick and easy way for Seth to deal with his inability to write teenage girls (and the reason why she became such a tortured Butt-Monkey in the first place). They could've easily set this up for making the Griffins likeable again, by having them have to deal with their faults instead of deflecting it on Meg. But they don't. What could have very well be the post-revival's Moment of Awesome instead becomes one of the most offensive Aesops I've ever seen. The fact that they knew what we considered wrong with the show yet kept Status Quo Is God while attempting to justify it shows they have no intention of bettering Family Guy. Not because they can't (as mentioned above, they very nearly did), or because they were afraid of losing money (making Family Guy a better show would boost sales), but that doesn't matter because they're still rich. And that's the best case scenario. The worst case? They think it's funny! If a show could pass the Moral Event Horizon, then this episode is an example. After all, how can you possibly redeem Family Guy if it outright defies the best possible method of salvaging the show?!
    • LunaVeg87 -What gets me the most about this episode is not just its Aesop at the resolution (which I've said elsewhere is the equivalent of telling a woman whose husband verbally abuses her every day and gives her a crack in the mouth every night that she needs to stay with him because he'll fall apart without her (because for some reason, her leaving the guy, and him seeking out help for his own issues like an adult is out of the question) and not to mention shows and literal media for children have been able to pull off the message of "it's okay to leave toxic people who just happen to be your flesh and blood), but also the fact that this episode came right before the episode where Quagmire tries to get his sister out of a relationship with her abusive boyfriend. Kind of a mixed message; almost like the writers are saying: "being an abusive asshole is bad, but only if you're not the main character." I mean, there's apathetic writing, there's bad writing, and then there's... this. From this point on, any attempt to do a "Meg's a bitch" episode (which, surprise surprise, they did a season or two late) just smacks of hollowness.
    • Chimanruler 15: I stopped watching this show after this point. What irritates me about this episode is that the family members don't even bother to ask themselves why Meg chewed them all out. They simply take her word for it that she was just displacing her anger onto them and then go right back to abusing her.
  • Wrybread: "Screams of Silence: The Story of Brenda Q." What especially got to me was the poorly researched portrayal of police complaints and domestic abuse. Joe, a cop, says that the police can't do anything unless Brenda registers a complaint. While it's true that in most domestic abuse cases there's little that can be done unless the victim is willing to testify, that's because most abuse happens entirely behind closed doors, with no one to witness it besides the victim. Without the victim's testimony there's no way prosecutors could begin building a case so charges can't be pressed. In this case, Jeff has been abusive in full view of at least four people, one a cop, all of whom could testify that they saw him assault Brenda and thus build a case. At the very least, Joe could arrest Jeff for assault and detain him while they did the intervention for Brenda. I realize this would be less dramatic, but if you're going to do a dramatic episode about a serious issue, you get your facts right.
    • e32e: The main problem with the episodes is that the Family Guy writing staffs, to be blunt, are lazy. For the majority of the episodes they can just end a plot with a gag as opposed to having any sort of reasonable conclusion. So, when they try to make an episode focusing on an actual issue that doesn't boil down to 'Republicans bad!' or 'Big corporations bad!' they think that they can get away with the same thing and not do any research at all because they never had to before. The even bigger problem with this is the misconception that victims of abuse are 'stupid' or 'don't care about themselves' or 'are naturally weak-willed.' No. Even though I've never done any research I can still point out everything that's wrong with that sort of thinking. First of all intelligence doesn't factor into it at all and the reason why people become abuse victims is because they are with someone they love. When you love someone it's very possible to be emotionally manipulated. If this manipulation continues for a long-ass time then you'll eventually find yourself in a hole where you think your spouse is blameless. This could happen to literally every single character in the series and the fact that they unironically tried to blame the victim for the crimes of someone else and treat them as barely even human to justify the show's own overwhelming stupidity is disgusting. Will the episode do any harm in the real world? Of course not. Is it terribly written and offensive for the purpose of being offensive? Abso-fucking-lutely.
    • Ciel 12: The problems listed above are made even worse for me when Quagmire gives a speech to Brenda. As The Mysterious Mr. Enter pointed out, the speech is terrible for four reasons: 1. Quagmire objectifies and mistreats women regularly, thus has no right to comment on the situation. 2. He focuses on the effect the abuse has on him. 3. He implies she chooses to stay with him, rather than mentioning she might be afraid to leave. 4. He implies she has no right to call herself a woman because she is trapped in an abusive relationship. The rest of the episode is terrible, but this bit of victim blaming is the icing on the cake.
    • Halfstep: Wrybread is right, but there's another easy out in this episode: Joe - a cop - should know that at the time this episode was made, Rhode Island was a Castle Doctrine state. Meaning you can defend yourself and family members with lethal force in your house. Guess where Quagmire's sister and her abusive husband were staying? Really, the episode should have only been 3 minutes long, and the end should have went like this:
    Quagmire "Your honor, this man, who weighed 250 lbs, was beating up on my 125 lb sister. I asked him to stop, he advanced towards me menacingly. I myself weigh 150. Given that both me and my sister together barely outweigh the deceased, I felt the need to resort to lethal force to defend myself. So I shot him 17 times. Can I go now?"
    • Even if he has to lie about what instigated the shooting in his own house, it can't be any worse than the convoluted plan they had to go out into the middle of the woods and fake a murder.
    • Dibdobs: For me, it also was how Quagmire choking himself every day saved him. He started off the episode in a coma because he choked himself. All of the sudden he just built up a resistance to it. At least have him suddenly fight back, or huh, maybe Joe should've just arrested him. He threatens to arrest Quagmire for suggesting they kill Jeff, yet says there's nothing he can do as he hears Jeff abuse Brenda, unless she says something about it? Really? I also don't like how Family Guy is trying to be serious now, if I wanted to watch a soap opera I would. I mean, I respect that they tried to take abuse seriously instead of making it a joke, but I watched this show to laugh at cartoon antics, not have them suddenly throw a Very Special Episode at me. Every time I see them deal with these soap opera antics, I just groan.
    • Susaga: The simple fact that they present abusers as typical jerks who like all the douchey things you don't like. The fact that the victim, previously hiding at Quagmire's to avoid him, is almost willfully blind to his horrible behaviour. The fact that the supposed right thing to do is take this guy to a dark woods and kill him, thereby justifying killing someone. This didn't come across as a solution to abuse; it came across as a power fantasy for a guy to swoop in and save a defenceless woman from a one-dimensional jackass, dusted with jokes that were, at best, unrelated and unfunny. The whole episode felt like they were trying to appease anyone offended by her casual abuse in "Jerome is the New Black" without putting any actual work into how.
  • Manwiththeplan: "Back to the Pilot". If an episode where the obnoxious current versions of Brian and Stewie go back to the first episode of the show and diss everything about it (like apathetic Brian and evil genius Stewie, y'know, their past selves who were actually entertaining) wasn't bad enough, we also get some more tasteless 9/11 jokes and demonization of George W. Bush (well out of office by now!) thrown in, with time getting screwed around so that 9/11 is prevented, Bush loses re-election in 2004, starts a second Civil War which leads to a nuclear holocaust... and the only way for Brian and Stewie to fix it? Go back and cause 9/11. Which they do. And then high-five each other when they do it! Remember when this show cleverly and humorously avoided doing an atomic bomb joke? But now it's totally eager to make a mockery of 9/11 and everyone who died in it. Frankly, Seth, you have no right to make that kind of joke, especially as it's blind luck that kept you from boarding that plane and dying yourself! Seriously! It's not funny; it's just disgusting.
    • The Real Golden Gamer: You're not alone. Not only does this episode have some extremely unfunny and unnecessary Bush bashing, but it also has some needlessly horrifying things in it, too. Why is it that they had to throw in Brian and Stewie trapped in barber poles? Was that supposed to be funny? Was there even a purpose to it? Probably not. I'm not saying that their current selves don't deserve a few days of that until they get their personalities from Season 1 back, but isn't Family Guy supposed to be funny? Well, it wasn't funny, and neither is this episode.
    • Shadow Sora 94: While Seth isn't on the writing team anymore, it makes it just as vile considering the fact it shows the people in charge of writing Family Guy are at the point they refuse to care about anything that won't give them a good laugh- even casually joking about and making characters high-five each other over a tragedy that almost killed Seth to begin with.
      • Tropers/Turtler: Perhaps more vile is that Seth maintains the ability to veto, and he chose to not exercise it to reject this or the rest of the crap on this page, including making a joke at something that nearly killed him. Not only 9/11, but also the needless nuclear war that is the truly lowest point in this episode for me. Because it's apparently not good enough to make your political opponents callous or evil, they have to be omnicidally so.
    • Mic1988: Shame on you Seth, shame on you for laughing and allowing jokes to be made about one of the most horrific terrorist attacks in recent memory when you yourself could've been one of the victims who died that day had you not over slept. If you ever meet someone who lost someone that tragic day, I hope you apologize for allowing this Piece of Crap to even be thought of.
  • Dark Lady Celebrian: "Thanksgiving" was hilarious whenever it wasn't focusing on Quagmire's transgender mom, Ida. Family Guy has managed to go 10 seasons without offending me, but broke that scale when they had Brian and Ida bring up Brian having sex with her in the "Quagmire's Dad" episode, and then had Stewie tell her something along the lines of, "He liked it before he found out you were a monster." And then when Ida asked where the bathroom was, Lois said, "You may use the yard." No. Just no. Do everyone a favor and just never use that character again if you're only going to use her for transphobic "jokes." It's making me think the show is truly running out of jokes now if they must resort to blatantly insensitive tripe like this.
    • Aspie Crow: For me, one of the worst things of both the transphobia and the Author Tract is when Brian, surprisingly, asks Ida to share her opinion on the situation, at which time Ida says that she feels that Kevin going AWOL because he believed that the war was wrong is unforgivable, since he abandoned his fellow soldiers, the people he fought alongside. Which is a legitimate point, regardless of whether it's right or wrong. But, of course, Family Guy can't have a viewpoint other than Brian's be right, so this is treated with a dismissal of "Oh, that's just some drag queen". And the writers of Family Guy want us to believe that they're supportive of all walks of life...
    • emmens: The "I like the ones without the bone in it," followed by a cut away of Peter just mugging it. The worst part about this was the unexpectedness of it made me laugh. That one joke proved to me just how little effort actually went into the show and how much respect they have for anything. I bit my lip at "Family Gay" but this was what made me quit watching the show and giving it any chances.
    • CC Prime: I'm a pretty easy-going guy— I was able to ignore pretty much all of the above, mostly because I've just kinda given up on Family Guy being able to portray Ida with anything resembling dignity. No, what made me angry was the whole "message" about the Iraq War: for one thing, it was delivered with all the unsubtlety and preachiness that Seth and FG have come to be known for, but even worse is how freaking inconsistent it is. Okay, Kevin, we get that you thought fighting in Iraq was wrong, but your story makes no sense. Instead of saying that the Iraqi street kid was killed, you tell us this rambling, nonsensical story about how his "dad's friend's co-worker who was 74 and a rapist" was killed. I can understand misdirection for the sake of a joke, but Kevin acts completely serious about the whole thing, claiming that this was enough to break him and make him desert Iraq. If you're going to try and make a political message— even if it's a tired and arguably pointless one, since the US had already pulled out of Iraq by the time the episode aired— do not stick a stupid bait-and-switch gag in there that completely nullifies your entire sentiment, and then act like it's still valid.
  • Anarquistador: "Amish Guy". For me it was the portrayal of the Amish as this backward patriarchal society that disapproved of these new-fangled outsiders, and even seemed to be on the verge of burning the family as witches. Anyone who knows anything about Amish communities knows that they're violence-averse people, who choose to live without modern conveniences, and even encourage their young people to go out into the larger world to see how other people live. Maybe the writers were counting on the fact that they don't have televisions, and won't watch the show?
  • monkeyman224: The very end of "The Blind Side": Brian, after getting broken up with a blind girl, is convinced by Stewie that he can still date her if he disguises his voice. This just goes to show you that Brian only cares about sex with hot women and will do that without caring for anyone else. Well, now I know why so many people dislike his personality!
  • MadMan400096: Don't get me wrong; I don't mind the later seasons of the show, but "Be Careful What You Fish For" turned out to be the worst Family Guy ever in my opinion. The episode was very boring outside of some of the Ricky Gervais dolphin gags and the Cutaway Gags (particularly the one referencing The Adventures of Milo and Otis), but the worst thing about this piece of shit was the subplot with Stewie and Brian. The latter ends up hitting a new low by shoving off the former to date his bitch teacher. Granted, he does get her arrested, but only because he found out she had a boyfriend. That's right. He was willing to shun Stewie and ignore his misery (and those of the other preschoolers) just to get a date. It made Stewie, who started this show as a sociopathic Jerkass, more sympathetic than Brian, who's supposed to be the Only Sane Man. It ended up being the only episode of the series that I turned off the TV midway though. I didn't even stay to see the conclusion of the main plot. It sucked that hard.
    • Jude Deluca: So what that subplot all boiled down to was: Brian tries to have sex with yet another brainless hot woman, who runs a shoddy daycare center and regularly neglects the kids she's supposed to watch. Brian doesn't turn her in or alert anyone about what she's doing just because it would put a damper on any chance he has to get with her. Then he learns she has a boyfriend, so he calls the police. I am just really hoping he gets either a physical or verbal asskicking at some point. But in all honesty, you have to wonder how much leeway Seth MacFarlane has at this point if he's willing to voice Brian in a story like this.
    • Azn Pinoy: When I saw "Seashore Seashell Party", I thought, "Brian can't get any worse, right?" Well, I was somewhat wrong on the Thanksgiving episode (when dismissing a valid reason that Kevin deserting is wrong), and it was confirmed by the dolphin episode. I am not going to tell how horrible it was; I don't know what Gervais thought of this episode, or if he thought it sucked. But the subplot was worse. I knew what was going to happen, the old Brian sees a hot woman being the "babysitter," ignores the other people to try to have sex with her or see her naked, but later on, she is already taken. Same old, same old. What's worse, the fact that he said there was a special place for Hell for her, or the fact that there was no retribution or punishment for leaving the toddlers to fend for themselves. Or is it both, did he thought that saying a special place for Hell will make everything okay, even though as an atheist, "Hell doesn't exist"? Maybe the family should beat up Brian, or for irony, let Lois do it.
  • Ajustice: "Killer Queen" had a cutaway with Peter talking to a scary-looking teen, and it seems he gets the teen to start opening up that he wants to be loved... and then for no reason, Peter just beats the poor kid to a bloody pulp and takes his shoes! I think the writers just wanna rub it in our faces that Peter can do all kinds of horrible things to people and get away with it because he's the star of the show.
  • GavsEvans123: From "Forget-Me-Not", Lois snapping at the kids after Peter and Brian go on a night out that "all of the good people are gone." The writers flat out admitted that they don't care for four of the show's six main characters, and the only ones they do like are Peter and Brian, the Mary Sue and Author Avatar that get by far the most hate on this page.
  • Radical Ed: Now, I can take jokes at the expense of a group I'm part of. When it comes to Jewish jokes, I can laugh at myself and my people, as long as it's in good taste. But when Family Guy made the joke "It's no thrill for a pig to touch a Jew either" from "You Can't Do That on Television, Peter", it didn't cross the line twice, it just crossed the line and remained solely on the side of incredibly offensive. It wasn't funny, it wasn't clever, it was just rude, insensitive, and offensive beyond belief. That does it. I'm done with Family Guy. I've managed to laugh at their Jewish jokes up until now; I could enjoy them from other shows, but not this one.
  • Darth Josh: The Tea Party episode "Tea Peter" had Tom Tucker point out that Autism is "only an excuse for children to misbehave."
    • tvtropesruinedmylife22: I'm not that far up on the autism spectrum, but I still found this whole thing reprehensible.
    • marioandsonic: I've been made fun of enough because of my autism. I don't need TV shows to make fun of me too.
    • Solemn Dream: I was heavily abused and mistreated for the first 20 year of my life for being autistic as well as partly-unrelated emotional development stunting, and I've always done my best to behave. Screw you, Family Guy.
    • Disney23: It's not that it's Seth's usual demonizing of people he hates. This is beyond usual. Tea Partiers aren't just dumb. They mispronounce words for crying out loud. In reality, the Tea Party wants less government interference, not no government at all! Plus with the rampant pollution, white supremacy, crime and destruction going on, I call this worse than "Not All Dogs Go to Heaven".
  • Rory 1989: "Family Guy Viewer Mail #2". Yay, yet another uninspired go at the British (or rather English), after the one where Stewie teaches a Brit how to talk (yes, an American teaching an English person to speak properly; an American with an English accent, no less), and the one where Peter joins the football team which is so wimpy and girly cause its British (because apparently wearing no body amour in sports is wimpy). I just couldn't wait for another load of shit-tired jokes of the same kind all over again. When the English themselves are better at taking the piss out of themselves, you know that this show is bad.
  • Heartlesswithaheart: "Internal Affairs" has Joe meet an attractive woman after becoming famous. Joe is somewhat attracted to her, but decides to leave the woman so he doesn't screw up his marriage with Bonnie. However, he tells his friends about it and they convince him to do it, despite Joe having the only real stable marriage throughout the series. Joe stupidly takes their advice and sleeps with her — ruining his marriage with Bonnie.
    • Psi 001: The fact that Bonnie blows a fuse over Joe betraying her, defending his rightful claim of her hypocrisy of the whole matter by stating she didn't actually have an affair with Francois. No, she just intended to leave Joe to stay with him as his lover for the rest of her life. Not a great argument. And of course, like all other relationship arguments concerning the female, this is never actually pointed out.
    • Scribbleykitty: And let's forget a needless joke pointing at Iraq war veterans, concerning Joe and Bonnie's son being found barely alive and shipped back, his PTSD being used for cheap comedy. My sister is married to an ex-Marine who had just come back home from Afghanistan last Thanksgiving; he suffered a severe head injury barely missing an enemy missile to the face, said blast killing his friend and fellow corporeal in the process. As a result, he suffers not just from PTSD after seeing his friend blown up, but also Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI), which causes him to forget things easily, and makes him a bit flustered as a result. He will never fully be the father he wants to be for his baby girl because of his time in the war. So how about we take this emotionally crippling disability and play it for laughs! Funny, huh?!
  • Griffn 29: The episode that I didn't like was called "Burning Down the Bayit". Half of the jokes so far were not really funny, Quagmire gardening and "spotting a giggity at 10 o'clock" is out of character for him, the set up to the main plot is very contrived, and at one point there is a bizarre joke about dying teenagers final "tweets" that does not sound accurate at all. I didn't watch the full episode, and I don't think I am going to see the rest of that one.

     Season 11 
  • Falconwing: "The Old Man and the Big 'C'". Oh good lord, never has an ending to an episode made me want to put my foot through my TV screen. Carter Pewterschmidt basically gets away scot-free with keeping a cure for cancer from the rest of the world. Even to the point of lying to his daughter and breaking a promise, and this episode has the sheer gall to actually play it for laughs. Listen... This is just sick. This is literally the third time Carter has done something utterly reprehensible (The not-taking the orphan he adopted home, and keeping an Asian sex slave being the others) and received no repercussions whatsoever. I get it "He's rich, he can do whatever he wants, hahaha!" I don't give a crap. I watch cartoons to escape how crappy life is. I don't need to be reminded rich people are evil and can get away with anything. Least of all with an ending that's so unfunny and tagged on, they could have just put up a blank screen with the words "Here's where the ending was supposed to go", and that would have been less irritating.
  • NoSpoilersPlz: "Yug Ylimaf", aka, a 22-minute long excuse to reuse old animation and jokes. This episode could not have possibly been any lazier.
  • JediMasterYusei: I can't be the only one who's bothered by "Joe's Revenge". Did we really need to Retcon Joe's backstory? This wouldn't be such an issue for me, except now, instead of heroically fighting off the Grinch to ensure that a group of orphans get their Merry Christmas, he instead is crippled because he botched a drug ring bust because he was talking so unconvincingly that he outted himself as wearing a wire, and then unintentionally gave the guy the idea to cripple him! Badass Decay doesn't even begin to describe this!
  • "Friends Without Benefits":
    • Technature: The episode was just bad in general, but the absolute worst part was the fact that Meg was willing to give Chris a roofie. I think I'm gonna need to explain this one. Meg develops a crush on a boy in school (Kent), but she eventually finds out that he's gay, and happens to have a crush on Chris. So Meg asks Chris to sleep with him. Naturally, he says no, so instead of just dropping it, she decides to trick Kent by saying Chris said yes, but is insecure about being gay and is going to pretend to be asleep during sex. Meanwhile, she gets a roofie from Quagmire (about the only thing in all this that makes sense) to serve to Chris in a glass of juice. The reason this bothers me so much is the fact that this is Meg, the person who a season or two ago, was willing to give up her happiness and allow herself to be treated like shit so the rest of her family could be happy. It's not the first time she's done something crazy due to a crush, but it never involved her family (except for Brian, though this was the person she was after at the moment it happened), at least nothing harmful. Any character development that the writers left her with during that episode is gone now.
    • ABNo4: I must also agree when it comes to this one.
      • Meg charged right into psychopath territory here; sadly, it was about the only way they could draw attention away from how horrible the rest of the cast is, having pretty much made her what she's become through their abuse. Lois in particular was at her most vile, condescending worst. Unsympathetic protagonists can be funny, dark humor can work, but it needs to be handled by skilled writers. This episode was just mean-spirited, the only joke being "Look how nasty we're being to this character!"
      • On top of that we have unfunny suicide jokes, unfunny rape jokes and the customary stale ethnic stereotype jokes that are too unoriginal and cliché to even work as shock value. I don't like "I'll never watch this show again" declarations as they rarely hold, but I did find myself thinking about it after watching this one. If it had included a chicken fight and/or Conway Twitty cutaway, that might have indeed been it for me. As it is, I'll call it a new low and hope future episodes are more enjoyable.
  • Tropers/hyp3210n: I hate "Call Girl" for the second part of the plot. The first part was just a recycle of Peter gets a parrot, but replaces it with a falcon and you get the gist of it. The second part is Lois gets a job at a Sex-line company for her voice. Peter uses their services and falls in love with one of the girls (Lois). Lois gets mad, and sets a fake affair so she can prove he would cheat on her. They make up, episode over.
  • Tropers/Steve Mills: "Turban Cowboy" took the fucking cake. For starters, Lois acted like a complete fucking heartless bitch in this episode, and was at her worst. How dare she threaten to divorce Peter, in case of crying when a terrorist kidnapped him? What happened to old Lois?! I miss old Family Guy, seasons 1-3, I miss Peter's old voice, I miss the lighthearted humor.
    • Maxwest 1980: I hate this episode for a different reason. We know that Seth MacFarlane hates right-wing conservative Republicans and goes after them at every turn. One of the frequent accusations lobbed at the aforementioned was they were racist for implying that every Muslim was a terrorist. Okay... so why does Seth depict Muslims in this episode as being terrorists? Isn't he perpetuating prejudice himself by having Muslim terrorists? Or does he think he can't be racist because he is left-wing?
    • zettabeam62: Although a small moment, the thing that killed my interest in the show was, oddly enough, the stinger at the end where Peter accidentally detonated the bomb and blew up the bridge. My main problem was that, at the time I'm writing this (10/7/14) it was the most pointless act of cruelty done on Family Guy; yes, I hate this more than the whale, Meg erased from existence by God and the shot-put murder, mainly because — not to downplay the cruelty in each of them — all of those were relatively minute and only happening to one person or creature, whereas here they blew up a bridge in this episode for a stinger, killing tens or hundreds of people, ruining a transportation route for thousands thus creating a lot of big problems for businesses, and probably scaring millions, all for a f***ing stinger. This didn't need to exist; the racism against Muslims was bad enough, but ending on a happy note wouldn't have made it much worse plus it makes the last third of the plot completely pointless. For me, this was the biggest example of a "just because you can doesn't mean you should" moment Family Guy has done and shows why censors should be giving MacFarlane some more restraints in the show'ss creative freedom like pre-season 4 episodes. This episode should not exist, I want all copies of this episode destroyed, and if Seth MacFarlane does an episode like this again, I want him beaten up like jackass he is.
  • skyskater: I'll start off by saying that I'm not easily offended, like at all. I love dark humour. South Park is my favourite show. I'm a girl and I'll laugh at all the sexist jokes, no problem. They are just jokes, after all. I'll also say that I haven't watched 'Family Guy in years, again not because I was offended, just that random shock humour with no depth or substance can only be funny for so long, but my dad still likes it and sometimes I'll watch TV with him. So one night "Space Cadet" was on TV and I think, aside from the Star Wars specials (which managed to crap all over movies which were and are very important to me all while missing the entire message behind Star Wars), I think this is the episode that turned me off Family Guy forever, and it only took one line: the family are in a spaceship for some reason and it's crashing or something- I wasn't really paying much attention- but they are all scared obviously and Lois says something along the lines of "See, Meg? All those suicide threats and you're just as scared as the rest of us". Like, I know this probably seems tame compared with some of the other entries on here, but dude. Whoever wrote this is clearly fortunate enough to have never been suicidal, or known anyone close to them who is, because this is not how suicidal thoughts work. They are part of depression/mental health issues which are a completely separate thing to natural human instinct (such as fearing death in a dangerous situation, fight or flight etc.) and the two often do battle, and I guess the mental illness wins for some people. As someone who has been suicidal, that natural fear of death is probably one of the reasons I'm still here, but that doesn't mean the suicidal thoughts simply just go away. They are still there as long as the mental illness is still there, and reacting naturally to a life-threatening situation does not mean you're not suicidal, the human mind is a complex thing and is often full of contradictions like this. I'm not even offended so much as shocked that some people are this ignorant, but then again these are the same people who thought war didn't exist before the birth of Christ and the birth of Christ was also the birth of the entire concept of religion so I guess there's just no hope for some people.
  • chariset: "Jesus, Mary & Joseph!" is the episode that made me swear to never watch the show again. It's a retelling of the Christmas story, so you know it'll be a rough ride, but after an episode's worth of deliberate ignorance (the conception of Jesus was not the Immaculate Conception), petty cruelty (Meg's role in the story is to be Mary's donkey), and the usual painfully unfunny gags (crippled camel, anyone?), it ends on the worst possible note — with Peter denying basic courtesy to a desperate young couple who are clearly going to become parents within hours. Ugh. You've gone too far, Seth MacFarlane.

     Season 12 
  • Tropers/Boobtuber: What turned me off for "A Fistful of Meg" was the amount of Squick, combined with a sickening amount of Nausea Fuel. Peter naked obsessively, all of the implied/invoked sexual jokes (which, even by this show's standards, was pushing it far), Brian removing his fur, and Meg fighting the new guy with pus, escalating into vomit, a lesbian kiss, which eventually ends with her exposing herself and him melting. Family Guy has done Squicky moments before, but this is crossing another line of the many it's crossed already. Despite having a few laughs, the disgust factor overshadows the funniness. Perfect episode for the FCC to rant and complain about.
  • "Life of Brian":
    • Sir Smelly Arse II: Brian Griffin Dies. Enough said. Whether they're going to bring him back or not is irrelevant, they shouldn't have done it in the first place.
    • Dastardly Demolition: I personally feel that no one on the main cast needed to die. It just feels like they tried to put drama into the cast just to have it.
    • My Little Pingas: You would think Quagmire would at least show some sort of sympathy for Brian at his funeral, or at least console Peter (who's one of his best friends) with "I wasn't fond of him but I'm sorry for your loss" or something. But no. While Peter is tearfully lamenting about how Brian meant so much to him, Quagmire is watching a baseball game on his phone. Any likability Quagmire had left was thrown out the window and smashed to pieces after that moment.
    • Warner 14: The death of Brian itself felt more like a scene made for drama just to get ratings and that alone is a repulsive and disgusting act of greediness. Still, there's more to it that makes it such. Brian was one of the few characters I liked on the show when he wasn't forcing his views down people's throats. He had a likable design, great voice and when he managed to be entertaining, he got that down. So when I see my favorite character get killed in a violent, senseless and brutal way, it hurts in the most gut-wrenching and insulting ways imaginable.
    • Odins Left Eye: Brian's death was a DMoS for me. Brian is not a very likeable character. So the writers tried to make us like him by killing him off. Except it doesn't work because the level of gore in his death has been repeatedly used on the show for humor. And having the cast all cry over his death was poorly handled. Having everyone cry and playing sad music won't make us feel sorry for him if we already don't like him. Neither will having a strawfan in the form of the squirrel convert those who dislike Brian. The whole thing reeked of Alas, Poor Scrappy.
    • Super Saiya Man: I quit Family Guy about two seasons after the second revival and sometimes watch for a Bile Fascination. I decided to check out "Life of Brian" after I heard the incredulous: Brian, the Creator's Pet of the series was killed off. I thought it would be worth showing how they did it. Going in, I expected to see Brian already on his deathbed and the rest of the episode showing the flashbacks of how it got there. You know, what a normal, quality show does when killing off a popular, favorite, or Creator's Pet character. Instead... we open in the most blatant racism Family Guy has ever done, with all the Native Americans being typical stereotypes which haven't moved on past the 19th Century. You know, Family Guy writing staff, I'd expect more from you but considering you think bigotry -this time blatant bigotry without trying to be ironic- is funny, I hate to meet you people in real life. Are white people in the 19th Century mindset in the 21st Century, Family Guy? No! Culture does not stagnate! If it did, it dies out! Even with your last use of Native American jokes, which were nearly as bad in the season 1 episode "The Son Also Draws" at least it showed they were doing it ironically for tourists for their Casino. Next, we see after Brian and Stewie fix their mistake in the past, Stewie demolishes his time machine and calls it 'too much trouble'. There could have been an easy way to do this without it seeming like a forced slap to the face to the watchers: 1.) That last time travel trip irreparably fried its internal circuits. 2.) Their last trip destroyed said time machine via feedback or the guns they were carrying going off. Those are just off the top of my head but it seems like I put more effort into it than the fricking writers! In the end, the time machine's dismantled, taken to the dump and crushed and Brian, acting uncharacteristically upbeat and still preachy suggests they take a street hockey net home since it's in great shape (forcing a Recycling gag to us too unintentionally)! After that, we get another pointless cut away before going back to the present with Brian and Stewie setting up the nets they got and Stewie running back into the house to get his kneepads. Without even checking traffic, Brian turns his back to the direction of the traffic to finish setting up the nets and a speeding Prius comes down the street, the driver intentionally (people who think it's murder-pointing to Quagmire) or unintentionally (hard to see someone bent over) in the end... Brian is hit by the car. This could have been done extremely effectively by a Gory Discretion Shot, just the sound of the impact would have been enough. But no, we see it in extremely gory and realistic detail and then we get the insulting comment of the squirrel. And then we get another anti-Semitic joke. Finally, they are at the hospital where Brian is hooked up to life support but doesn't have much time left... they actually handled that part effectively, but it still came a bit forced. Now the episode could have ended here, but that'd make it only 15 minutes long. Instead, we get a funeral (where Quagmire instead of comforting his friends... is watching the Sox game during it) while the family members all say their goodbyes... and Joe gets bothered by yet another racist stereotype. A month passes after the funeral and then Lois decides to get a new dog just then and there... grief takes longer than that. Lord knows we waited for nearly a year in my house before we got our cats after Whopper, my dog and best friend, died. Now we meet the Replacement Scrappy for Brian: Vinny, an Italian Stereotype... who is strangely a bit more tolerable than Brian was in some ways. However, Stewie doesn't accept him until they bond over some common grief they have (Vinny lost his owner, Stewie lost his dog). Now... if the episode did this correctly it could have been what won back the crowd. Brian dying should have been the focus, not all the racist stereotypes and Jew jokes and pointless cutaways. A lot of filler could have been cut and we could have got something not only heart touching, but make us genuinely sad to see Brian go in an Alas, Poor Scrappy way. Instead... we got another contender for the worst episode of Family Guy. Brian's death is so forced and drawn out and gory, and finally the introduction of Vinny who isn't so bad.
      • Black Medusa: I was afraid no one would have been bothered by the racist, insulting portrayal of the Native Americans & I was going to have to try to remember it all. I quit the show cold turkey after that episode. I am completely indifferent to Brian dying, except for the fact that it was a really cheap ploy for ratings, but I was extremely bothered that Brian, of all characters, would be so eager to "fix" the outcome of North America not being invaded by Europeans. It was really OOC for Brian to essentially say the violent deaths of millions and millions of natives and Africans, the decimation of untold cultures was fine just so long as his family ended up being white...? I mean, what was the problem otherwise? If I'm remembering correctly, wasn't there a nearly-identical version of the Griffins in the new timeline? It would take some getting used to, but making sure genocide happens isn't "setting things right".
  • "Christmas Guy":
    • Tropers/Wolfgod: "Life Of Brian" was a pretty awful rating's grab, but Brian's return was even worse. The writers played up Brian's death to get viewer count only to completely retcon it. I actually half expected this to happen in a Christmas themed episode, but I expected it to be from some sort of Santa based revival that forewent all continuity like always. They didn't even handle it properly, they completely threw away Vinny without a second thought; there could have been some sort of side plot where someone in the family is somewhat involved with adopting Vinny or have Stewie call in a favor or something but no, they just ended the episode without further mention of him.
    • Lt Fedora: I'd already been tuning out Family Guy for the last year or so, leaving it on because it's the show between Bob's Burgers and American Dad!. Brian's death was a huge shock to me, and that there was no reset button shocked me even more. I thought there was going to be a real shake-up in the show, and I actually liked Vinny. Then, Brian came back. To me, this is like the Family Guy equivalent of "Year of Hell": a huge shake-up of the status quo, only for it to never matter again.
    • Tatsui Chiyo For me, the entire set-up of Brian's death was just one major fuck you to the entire fanbase. I had been waning off of Family Guy, no longer finding it was funny or thought provoking, more "what hypocritical, rage inducing message can we force down our viewers throats". But when I heard Brian was dead, I actually watched the episode and found it had been very well done. A somewhat emotional send off (like those two up there said, the fuck was with the squirrel and chicken?) to the guy. Then, Vinny, this interesting and funny new character arrives, completely different from Brian in almost every way. I actually felt hope that maybe this was the writers getting back on board to the old humor, and that while Brian would be missed, they would probably still refer to him now and again. What happens only two episodes later? 'Did you really think we'd kill Brian?" Yes. Yes I did. Bringing him back not only ousted this entire beautifully done transition with a new character and possible new direction, it turned it into a cheap, promotional middle finger. The rage I felt at that entire thing was just sickening. They toss Vinny aside like he was an old shirt, they yank the chains of people excited for a new character, and perhaps the worst part? Instead of showing a lesson about accepting loss and learning to move on from it, instead it becomes "Sad your pet died? Wish you could have them back? Well too bad you don't have a f***ing time machine!" I lost the chance to say goodbye to a cat I'd known for 12 years simply because I decided to stay an extra hour at the mall, no idea that we were pretty much being forced to give her up to please our asshole neighbors (Long story short, we got 5 animals wandering this neighborhood without their owners giving a shit, they hated our cat because God knows why, they find poop in yard, threaten to call animal control on our cat unless we keep her in house). And I would give anything to be able to say goodbye. So turning what I saw as a touching moment and turning it into... that, only served to make me swear off of Family Guy. Sorry for the long rant, but I've said my piece.
    • HammerOfJustice: The worst thing happened. Brian was brought back. He is the worst influence on every cast member. He helps Peter in his schemes, almost never calls Lois out on her problems, ignores Chris, encourages Meg to stay in a harmful place, and is corrupting Stewie by filling his mind with his extreme leftist politics and atheist views. He thinks he's the apex of intellectual and moral superiority, but the show and family are better off without him.
  • "Peter Problems":
  • "Fresh Heir":
    • Disco Glacier: Even when disregarding every attempt at being disturbing - which only the most desensitized Nightmare Fetishist can do - this episode still fails miserably on account of being sloppily written. The pacing is awful, as the episode is clogged with irrelevant cutaway gags (which are excessive even by this show's standards), and it takes half the episode for the incest jokes to have any plot relevance. The dialogue is schizophrenic and unconvincing: a discussion between Lois and Chris somehow segues into suicide without any kind of transition or prompting. Every joke falls flat on its face, and even the ones that had potential are botched by bad timing and a lack of consequence.note  Too say that the writer just didn't care is putting it lightly: it's as if the episode was written by someone with no experience in screenwriting, despite Steve Callaghan having worked on the show since its beginning in 1999.
    • InTheGallbladder: I've retracted my past complaint in favor of this one because it makes that complaint even Harsher in Hindsight. Family Guy demonstrated with this episode that nobody of influence on the staff knows how to do anything on any basic level anymore, besides shock people. In doing so, it has lost all right to claim that any work is inferior to it.
  • Oh how I wish I could put the entirety of season 12. However, according to the rules, I should only pick 1, and that would be "Herpe, the Love Sore". So, this episode's main plot involves Brian knowingly giving Stewie, an infant, a ruthless disease like herpes. Brian is a jerk, but he would never do anything this malicious, especially towards his best friend. He literally has no motivation for his behavior, and just comes across as a heartless sociopath, making it even harder to sympathize with him. This plot barely has a story beyond "Brian gives Stewie herpes.". The episode tries to give a moral on honesty, but because it involves someone getting a life threatening disease he can never be cured of, it falls completely flat on its face. Let's talk about the subplot. It involves Peter and his friends getting bullied by three guys later revealed to be soldiers, and yet they're supposed to be seen as in the wrong. Maybe if the plot ended with the soldiers being punished with Peter and the guys winning, it could've been tolerable. But, because the soldiers win, it pretty much says soldiers can act like jerks and get away with it. Both plots are really terrible.
    • El Rodrigo: This episode easily demonstrates the worst Family Guy has to offer. Grossout humor that disgusts rather than entertains? Check. Characters suffering Badass Decay? Check. Brian being a douche by knowingly spreading an incurable disease to Chris and Stewie, and trying to pass it off as no big deal? Check. Complete assholes who get away with being dicks just because they're soldiers? Check. The typical long drawn out gag that wastes two minutes of your time and rides on your patience? Check! You know, people regret that Vinny got retconned out of the show, but judging from the way this show is going, I'd say that he was the lucky one.
    • Thy Dark Lord Of Awesomeness: Nobody is gonna mention how horribly out of character everyone is inbetween the clam incident and the final fight? Other than that, Brian was a dick and the soldier shit was horrible and pulled out of their asses (like what the guys above said).
    • Guardian Enigma: Brian intentionally giving herpes to Stewie and Chris when they become Blood Brothers with him. That's disgusting and a horrible thing to do to anyone, let alone a friend who trusts you, and serves as a point of no return for Brian in my eyes.
    • Baby Dogson 1: Ugh. This episode has little to no redeeming qualities. I admit there were a few jokes that made me chuckle, but for the most part it was awful. Having the crowd cheer the army guys immediately after they announce that they're off to Afghanistan was bad in and of itself, considering they'd just beaten up Peter, Joe and Quagmire for very little provocation. And then, Adam West praising them, while shunning Peter, Joe and Quagmire. This isn't even bringing into account what I could only call the sub-plot, considering it takes up less time (thank God), but even that can't save it from its rancid morals, in that Stewie just forgave Brian for the latter giving the former herpes because Brian said "sorry". He doesn't deserve forgiveness for such a rancid act, even to the point that where Chris and Stewie are ruining his dates and hacking his Facebook and (Chris) stealing his car you're cheering them on.
    • CJ Croen 1393: You wanna know the absolute worst part of the herpes plot? Herpes can't even be transferred by blood, making the method it's depicted being transferred in impossible. They either didn't do any actual research beforehand or basically shoehorned it into the plot for no good reason beyond "lol, shock humor!"—and neither of these explanations are good enough to justify it.
  • Tropers/Scsigs: Four words, "Brian's a Bad Father". Does that sound right to you? Well it shouldn't because it's not. This is the single worst episode in the worst season of this show's history. Sure, there are other bad episodes, I did just type that this is the worst season of the show, but I will argue this is the worst out of the bunch. How has nobody brought this up yet here? It seems like ever since Quagmire gave Brian his "The reason you suck speech," Brian's character, as well as the rest of the show, have been on a steady decline in quality ever since then. What does this episode try its damnedest to prove to the audience? Read the name. Yes, it's that transparent. First of all, Brian wasn't a bad father to Dillon once he really started trying to be a father when he was introduced, he was a little overly protective, but that's better than nothing, and it's the exact opposite of how their relationship's portrayed here. Second, Quagmire's mentioning of him being a bad father was way out of line, but you could see his reasoning because Brian really hasn't seen Dillon since his only episode before this one. In all reality, you'd imagine that Brian would've started e-mailing, or calling him every so often, but apparently not. Third, Brian using Dillon to become a writer on his show, since he's an actor on a show that's filming at a studio in Quahog, is just not how you'd expect this episode to go. Since he apparently hasn't been in contact with Dillon for a while, you'd expect him to go and reconnect with him, spend some time together, prove Quagmire wrong, but no. Apparently the new Brian is the one at the forefront of the writers' minds when writing Family Guy and his transformation into his full-on douche persona is now complete with this episode. It gets to the point where the job was all Brian cared about when Dillon came back, then they have the overly long gag where he packs away some of the food from the snack tray in containers, then just backs his car into the studio, somehow, and straps the whole table into the back of it, then drives off with it. This episode single-handedly derailed Brian's character into everything Quagmire was describing in his speech to him, if not worse further than he was already slipping. If there was any solace to this whole stupid episode, it was the "can of whupass" cutaway. That made me laugh so hard because they actually personified an actual "can of whupass" that beats the crap out of Peter, but it wasn't at all worth the rest of this shlock. It speaks volumes when the most consistently-written character on this show now is Stewie and that's only after his slight derailment already with the writers putting forth more of his effeminate qualities and lessening his manic sociopathic and genius qualities already.

     Season 13 
  • "The Simpsons Guy":
    • White Rose Samurai: There's one instance in this episode that makes me just want to punch my fucking TV. The Griffins are getting ready to leave Springfield, and Lisa gives Meg her saxophone as a present. Meg says that it's the nicest thing anyone's ever done for her. It's a pretty damn heartwarming moment, right? And then Peter happened. He takes the saxophone away from Meg and throws it in a nearby trashcan, saying there's no room in the car for it. I want to like you again, Family Guy. I really want to like you again. But when you go and shit all over touching moments like this, that's when I seriously consider wanting to find out where Seth MacFarlane lives so I can go break his nose.
    • Skullsnsouls: For me, this was the moment where I just said: "Fuck it. I'm done with this fucking show. The prank call Stewie did on Moe was bad enough. It had me teetering on the brink of quitting the show. But then they go and pull that dick move on Meg. For fuck's sake, can you just let Meg have something in her life she enjoys and is talented at for once? Oh, wait, why am I asking? The answer is no. Meg is forever doomed to be miserable and suicidal for the rest of her life. Because we're supposed to laugh at her misery. Fuck. This. Show."
    • Melancholy Utopia: For someone who is a Family Guy hater (and a passionate one at that), I actually liked this episode, but only because The freaking Simpsons was in it. However, there was the ending fight between Peter and Homer that had me sighing and rolling my eyes. We get it. It's a reference to all of Peter Griffin's chicken fights in previous episodes, which is an old "joke" that I never found funny in the first place. It's just a tiring Overly Long Gag. It's not funny, don't you writers understand that? It's just annoying. If the writers of FG would realize that soon, they would stop recycling other boring jokes like "Cool whip". Yeah, I'm ravingly positive that this show will never get back on its feet ever again and should just kick the bucket.
    • GreenWyvern10: I too agree that this episode was lousy. Just the whole concept of Family Guy crossed with The Simpsons was a bad idea. The two shows' types of humor do not mix well together at all. And in addition to that, it's loaded with many things that simply aren't funny. Bart does a prank call on Moe, saying that he's looking for a man with an innuendo name. When Stewie decides to do a call, he tells Moe that his sister is being raped. Will this show ever learn that rape is not something that you should be making jokes about? Probably never. Then, as the above poster stated, there is an Overly Long Gag featuring Peter and Homer doing nothing but fighting, which nearly bored me to sleep. And also, what on Earth could Meg Griffin have done to deserve to be given abused left and right? At the end of the episode, the Griffins are leaving Springfield, and Meg has a new saxophone that Lisa gave her. But of course, we are supposed to find her being abused funny, and this heartwarming moment doesn't last, as Peter, being the arrogant Jerkass that he is takes it away from her and tosses it into a nearby trashcan. And why? Because there's no more room in the car. Thank you writers, you made a perfectly good heartwarming moment and it actually looked like Meg was going to be happy for once, but of course, we are supposed to laugh at how gloomy she is, and so you destroyed it. Considering how it doesn't look like this show will ever come up with something new and endearing, then perhaps it should just be cancelled, and this time, permanently. Sorry for the long post, but I've made my case.
  • Mineburst: "Turkey Guys". It had a lot of unclever jokes, but otherwise a decent story that almost ended on a heartwarming note. Peter decides not to kill a turkey he brought home and realizes the true meaning of Thanksgiving is being with family and friends... then a drunken Chris blows the turkey to bits, followed by Peter saying he and Lois divorced four years later and Stewie died. WTF, writers, you had the perfect way to end the episode, and out of the blue you just raped it.
  • Shasarazade: "The 2000-Year-Old Virgin". Not only was this episode an incredibly offensive attempt at a Christmas Episode, but it completely negates all of the religious arguments posed by this show for the last few years. Family Guy has gone out of its way in multiple episodes to deny the existence of God and to provide "proof" that God doesn't exist. One episode even had Brian tell Meg that God couldn't possibly exist because if He did, then He wouldn't have allowed her family to abuse her the way they do. Well, not only does this episode center around Jesus Christ trying to lose his virginity, but they refer to God repeatedly and they depict God onscreen. Which is it, Seth MacFarlane? Does God exist or does He not? You use your show as your mouthpiece for your atheist views, but then you ignore such views just because you want a Christmas Episode? You're well within your rights to write your show however you want, but you can't deny an entire religion for several years and then feature it predominantly in an offensive, unnecessary episode. Either God exists or He doesn't. Make up your mind.
  • tropers/scottvanslyke: "Brian the Closer" is the episode that destroyed any empathy I had left for Brian. After he gets new teeth paid for by Quagmire (who is the person who hates him the most) he then decides to screw him out of his hard earned money by tricking him into buying a crappy run-down condo. That and the fact that it's the teeth that got him the job as a real estate agent in the first place makes Brian look like an ungrateful jerk.
    • RAZ: The whole opening sequence was the final nail in coffin for me. The plot gets kicked off by Peter wanting a toy rope of Brain's and getting jealous because Brian won't share it. So what happens? He ties one end of it to his car while Brian has his mouth on the other end, then drags him across the city to shake it off while running over several children, leading Brian to eventually smash his face into a hydrant, break his nose, and destroy all his teeth. What the hell was supposed to be funny about that!? Don't get me wrong. I enjoy black comedy. But this whole thing came off pure shock value and nothing else. Even worse is the whole thing is yet another reminder of how much Peter's been derailed into a remorseless, sadistic asshole. It's impossible to believe that this was once the same guy who was once horrified at having to kill a plane full of people when he was forced to take over Death's job (with one of the reasons being that there were several kids on the plane!) and took a way out in order to save most of the passengers. And then to add insult to injury, after Brian's disfigurement Peter gets bored and tosses the rope back to him. Ugh. While I'd quit watching Family Guy regularly a long time ago, I'd never outright hated it like a lot of the show's modern day detractors did. After this though, I'm getting on the bandwagon.
  • Emmz: I have a lot of hated episodes, and a lot of them have already been mentioned here before, so I'm just going to add an episode that hasn't been talked about: "This Little Piggy", the episode where Meg becomes a foot fetish model. I haven't actually watched the full thing but I've seen clips of it on YouTube. It looks like a run-of-the-mill mediocre Family Guy episode in itself, but what's really rubbing me the wrong way about this episode is the Broken Aesop in obvious full effect. Peter and Lois are angry after finding out Meg is doing foot fetish modeling and forbid her from doing. She tries to ignore them, but they eventually get her to quit with a "heartfelt speech" about how much "they love her". Maybe this would be a good moral on how you shouldn't degrade yourself to partaking in porn to make yourself beautiful, but definitely on any show other than Family Guy and any character other than Lois and Peter. Remember, this moral is coming from the woman has tried to rape her husband on a couple of occasions and from the man who has been shown to be a pedophile, not to mention they have no problem with Meg's other acts of sexual deviancy throughout the show and don't do anything to stop her from those, and yet they have the nerve to preach about how disgusting it is for her partake in a slightly weird body part fetish? That's like having Jason Voorhees teach you about gun safety or Hannibal Lecter telling you to go vegan. Also they have no say in what is best for Meg since they've done nothing but treat her like shit throughout the previous seasons: from Lois encouraging Meg to commit suicide, to Lois eating her school lunch and leaving her with bread crusts and orange rinds, from them both laughing at her diary, to Peter farting on Meg constantly, to Peter throwing away the saxophone Lisa gave her in "The Simpsons Guy". And who's to say that they're not just going to go back to abusing her because they've always gone back to doing it after every single "heartwarming family moment" they have with her. Meg has every right to not forgive her parents and should've just told them to fuck off at this point. She even lampshades this when about to leave for the party, but still forgives them because Status Quo Is God. Honestly, fuck Lois and Peter. They're both the reason why this show is so terrible nowadays and having them be hypocritical manipulative scumbags only adds onto it.
  • "Stewie is Enceinte":
    • Wildstar93: I've been watching recent episodes of Family Guy and tolerating (but not liking or agreeing with) all of its content... but Stewie Is Enciente is what made me give up the series. What made it stand out is the birth scene. I don't have anything against birthing scenes (except in Twilight), but how they did it and Stewie's pregnancy... no more Family Guy for me for a while.
    • Izzy1: I, along with many other people, have been dreading this episode for a long time, and it definitely proved to be terrible. First of all, the subplot is stupid and goes absolutely nowhere (Peter and his friends try to make a viral video and fail), and just serves as a way to save money on animation by showing live action clips. As for the main plot, Stewie sees Joe and Bonnie happily playing with Susie, and Stewie presumes that they must be happy because they have a baby, so he decides that he needs to have a baby with Brian in order to rekindle their friendship. It's one of the, if not the worst, episode I've seen. It doesn't help that it reminds me of the Ren & Stimpy "Adult Party Cartoon" episode "Stimpy's Pregnant".
    • Tehrannotaur: I originally was going to give this to "Herpe the Love Sore", but now after watching "Stewie Is Enceinte", I changed my mind and placed it to this episode. First of all, aside from the usual bullshit, what seals its fate is when Stewie gives birth. Although it's obscured by Brian's car, it's incredibly gross and disturbing since he gives birth to seven through literally every part of his body and we even get to hear his agony and Brian's response to the situation, plus birth noises and fluids splattering the car windows. Also, shouldn't Stewie's artificial uterus be able to contain all seven of them when he's giving birth, unless when his water broke it literally tore apart the uterus and those newborns crawled throughout his insides. It's a miracle as to how Stewie survived or else he would have died from his injuries from the aforementioned. I can't look at this show the same way again, and I certainly can never watch this episode ever again.
    • GAP: This episode made me sick to my stomach, the premise seemed promising as Stewie wants to genuinely be with Brian however the method he used to do so is just horribly atrocious. First of all, how is Stewie despite being a male toddler himself supposed to give birth to children especially since Brian is a dog and Stewie is a human? Also, the actual pregnancy raises further questions as well as Stewie doesn't even have a placenta to speak and no means to carry the actual children? Lastly, how is this even possible? Human males don't give birth to children especially infants who are barely two years old.
    • TT 454: I don't how much lower this show can drop... this episode is beyond revolting. It's about a baby giving birth to half-dog half-human babies. Family Guy's done some offensive things, but this is tasteless to monumental extremes. It also means Stewie and Brian are now sexually related, and that's just nauseating. In fact, the whole idea of Stewie having children is so egregious that it makes the plot to Junior look realistic! There is simply no other candidate - this episode marks the point of no return for Family Guy.

     Season 14 
  • Eros Thanatos: I still love Family Guy despite some of the outright bullshit they put on the air, but what happened in Episode 9, "A Shot in the Dark" was one for me. Peter did shoot Cleveland Jr., but not only did the former have a good reason to mistake him for a burglar considering the circumstances (identity obscured by darkness, no immediate response, prying open a window), but Cleveland was also partially at fault for what happened considering he forces his son to enter their house through the windows in order to "conserve air conditioning." Being pissed off at Peter for what happened is understandable despite the obvious misunderstanding, but not only did Cleveland himself go through a similar situation with the mother of a Mexican family back in Stoolbend, but trying (and succeeding) to push the entire town into seeing what his supposed best friend did as a deliberate hate crime is just downright spiteful. I would also list the "Black-on-Black Crime" Asspull ending on here too, but then again, it's not really surprising considering Family Guy's rock-bottom standards.
  • Tropers/jopartain: In "Candy Quahog Marshmallow!", Peter and gang travel to South Korea when they find out Quagmire was a soap opera star there. Entertaining episode, all in all, but what really made it a Dethroning Moment of Suck was the way the suicide of Donna's mother was handled. Only twice do we hear about her death from Cleveland via text, which is more than a nuisance, due to the recurring role she achieved in The Cleveland Show and the influence she has on Donna. To kill her off so carelessly wastes not only a potential A or B plot for future episodes, but leaves us hanging as to what happened to the motherof a main character of The Cleveland Show. I enjoyed the episodes including her, but now it seems like she's dead simply to make a short joke.
    • Deranged Escargot: No one's even mentioned that Brian and Stewie weren't in the episode? They didn't appear in this episode despite a subplot involving Stewie becoming a redhead. But it was dropped in favor of Annoying Asian Stereotypes.

    Season 15 

    Season 16 
  • Lordofthe Stars: I haven't sincerely enjoyed Family Guy in years, and honestly, I continue to watch it out of morbid fascination. Maybe it reassures me in the sense that, anything I might go on to create in my life couldn't possibly be this bad. But I think "The D In Apartment 23" has irritated me a lot more than any other recent episodes, at least to the point where I wanted to bother making a post here. This episode involved Brian making a racist tweet, and getting dragged through the mud, shamed by the entire town, and harrassed to no end by everyone he encounters. It's clear that Seth Mc Farlane is trying to imitate the excessively hostile experience someone goes through on socia media in real life, if they make a less than sensitive comment others deem socially unacceptable. Which, I'll agree, is definitely a real and relevant problem. But here there are three key reasons episode comes off as both unsympathetic and uninformed. First, the harrassment happens to Brian in real life. You'll be hard pressed to find many people who confront those they disagree with in real life on the internet, primarily because anonymity is such a prevalent aspect. That's why cyberbullying is such a hotly debated topic; it's all online, and if it's all online and not in person, can it really be held to the same standards as face-to-face harrassment? Most of us are aware of how internet fights and harrassment work, so the townsfolk going after Brian in real life required some suspension of disbelief. Second, when people make those comments in real life, they usually stem from ignorance, lack of understanding of a situation, or are even, at times, unprovoked. Brian was just being a racist piece of shit. Not to say that's never why people are driven off of a website, but it sure makes it hard to feel bad for Brian here. And third, Brian never apologises and barely sees any fault in what he said. Because, and I quote, it was all "Just a joke." Brian deletes the tweet, but never actually says he's sorry, and only admits the joke was bad when confronting the angry mob. Look. Do people online drastically overreact to small transgressions? Of course. (If you want to see a show that understands this and parodies it accurately, check out The Amazing World of Gumball.) But that doesn't mean it's fine to be a racist douche. Throughout the whole episode, Seth acts as though the blame falls on everyone else for not finding racist humor funny, as if he literally cannot concieve of a show being funny and likeable without having mean spirited, racist, homophobic, or otherwise offensive humor. (Hm. Suddenly all those shots at Modern Family and Bob's Burgers make a lot more sense!) And finally, the straw that broke the camel's back in this case was the damn Kingsman: The Secret Service parody scene. In the original scene, it's secret agent Harry Hart taking out a churchful of bigoted jerks in an incredibly violent-yet-satisfying gorefest. In Family Guy, it's Meg and Chris slaughtering a cafeteria full of angry fellow students who are pissed that the siblings don't openly condemn Brian for being racist. (Notice that none of the family members, even as they're being mistreated, say that they don't agree with Brian, or that his opinion doesn't stand for them? Lois even says she knows Brian is a good person, but we haven't seen any evidence of that in a very long time.) Uh, news flash, Seth. If this is really how you view the backlash when you make bigoted jokes, you're not Harry Hart in that iconic scene. You're one of the churchgoers.
  • Coda Fett: I would like to add HTTPete for being the most out of touch and bitter look at "millennials" (actually a mishmash of at least 3 different generations) I have ever seen. The episode starts off on an absurd note with an instructional video about Millennials and the things they do, which is rife with young people stereotypes presented without a hint of irony and a new character is introduced who exists to be a strawman. Not even five minutes into the episode, and it is abundantly clear that not only are the writers showing their age with this one but they also very clearly don't know what they're talking about. First of all, Millenials are predominantly in their fucking 30s, and the youngest ones would be around 25 at the time of airing. For some bizarre reason, the Fam Guy crew set their made up cut off date to the year 2000, which is 5 years into Gen Z. The character Hammer is more a hipster than anything else. Yeah a hipster, when's the last time you heard about one those? Then you got jokes about angry tweeting and cancel culture which just screams "I don't like that I can be held accountable for saying something offensive." But all that isn't nearly as bad as one particular jab; During a cutaway gag featuring some really weird, niche imagery that you just know someone on the team thinks millenials are big on, Peter says "Our country's involved in 6 wars right now, but this is what Millenials think about!" insinuating that all we care about are hedonistic distractions. I'm actually in the military and that joke bugs the hell out of me because 20-30 year olds, the people you're mocking, are the ones out there fighting in these places. What an ignorant thing to imply, also hypocritical because as seen in the above mentioned episode, Fam Guy writers aren't big fans of Social Justice culture so you're also not allowed to be involved in politics if you're one of those damn Millenials. And that's not even getting into the paper thin plot. Just a shitshow of an episode.
  • Chilliwack: To be honest, I rather enjoyed the first episode of Season 16, "Emmy Episode". But for the exact wrong reasons. It all came off as a bitter, pathetic attempt at insulting Emmy Award winning shows like Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, The Wire, The Sopranos, and more. Scenes were parodied with absolutely no context, and every parody seemed to have a sneer behind it, with Peter even calling the Emmys a "meaningless award." He calls it meaningless, despite constantly bemoaning the fact that he doesn't have one. I guess Seth MacFarlane was so angry over his failure to produce quality content that he decided to take it out on the viewers of those other programs, even stating that people only watch those shows just to appear intelligent. Sure, Seth. Whatever you say. His bitterness really shows through in this episode. And although it is an objectively bad piece of television, I enjoyed it because it gave me insight into what a truly petty, spiteful man Seth really is. It was gratifying. So.... Good job Seth, you sure showed them... who you truly are. And as for the final segment of the highly-decorated actors calling Peter out on his show's ineptitude... I can only assume Seth had nothing to do with that, as the writers likely didn't want to get blacklisted.

    Season 17 
  • "Con Heiress":
    • O_Zone: I've deleted my previous entry in favor of adding "Con Heiress" to this list which felt like one of the, if not THE, laziest episode of FG to date, as amazing as that sounds. I could talk about both plots to this episode but I'll stick to the B plot which involves Herbert, everyone's favorite pedo, getting Chris and Peter to do yardwork for him since he thinks Peter's a friend of Chris and thus wants to try and seduce both. OK, Herbert, you've MET AND INTERACTED with Peter before so surely you have to know he's not only NOT a young boy but Chris' dad to boot. Hell, just LOOKING at him should have given you the hint alone (and no I can't believe I'm saying these words either). And then, while Chris and Peter are fighting shirtless (ugh...) and Chris does indeed reveal the fact Peter is his father, Herbert gets so shocked by something he should already know that he...explodes into pieces...wait what?. Sadly that was really one of the only funny parts about this plot and only because of how out-of-nowhere it was. And in case if you're wondering whether or not that was done as a way to kill Herbert off, that doesn't seem to be since his weird dog puts a piece of him into a flower pot and thus regrows him into Groot because...pop culture references??? I don't even wanna get into the lazy A-Plot.
    • ThomasVeggieDramaFan: I guess almost five years was long enough for my previous entry so why not delete it in favor of my current one which is for "Con Heiress". Is it the worst episode of all time? No (that honor goes to "A Very Special Family Guy Freakin' Christmas", which I know I'm in an extremely small minority on for having the balls to even badmouth that supposed "Classic"), but it's the maddest that this show has made me when watching a recent episode in quite a long time. Just from the premise alone I wasn't expecting anything, but I could've given it the benefit of the doubt over the snooze-fest that was "Send In Stewie, Please" for at least taking place in more than one location and not waste five minutes on Stewie having a pointless monologue that actually made me briefly doze off! But nope! Instead what I got was an episode I'd typically expect from modern American Dad! in regards to how lazy and lacking in effort it is, even down to having the same kind of twist at the end of act 2/beginning of act 3 that normally derails many an episode of that show, which in this episode's case is the random and forced insertion of Quagmire into the main plot which on AD! would typically be a spot reserved for Roger. And while the final reveal with Meg being the heiress was admittedly a little funny, I got still got pissed because 1. The complete out of nowhere and randomness of it just further added to the modern AD! feeling I got from the episode as this Shocking Swerve gave me "Death by Dinner Party" flashbacks in regards to how nonsensical and scatterbrained the twist is (even by that show's standards) and 2. Fuck you! Don't lie to me by claiming this to be a Meg episode all along when she's only now appearing within the last five seconds! The only things I'll say about the subplot that wasn't already summed up perfectly by the troper above is that to further drive home the modern AD! comparison, it feels like one I'd expect from that show nowadays where it's pointless and has no reason to exist other than the main plot ran short (even with all the tediously pointless long gags like the heiress' insanely stupidly long last name which amounted to possibly five entire minutes in total for the three times they beat it into the ground), and not since "Brokeback Swanson" have I seen the show resort to such levels of Idiot Plot that border on intelligence insulting! The only reason why this wasn't the worst episode I've seen of any series in 2018 is that unlike my #1 pick (which would be AD!'s "The Mural of the Story"), this episode at least didn't make me feel like getting drunk and/or killing myself after watching it in order to suppress how miserable of a time I had while watching!
    • CapriciousSamon: I was on the fence as to changing my DMOS from "Trump Guy" to "Mom's the Word" until I got introduced to this episode. I liked the plot of the episode and I thought I'd give it a watch, and I found it's a super lazy version of "Brian Wallows and Peter Swallows", easily one of the Top 5 worst of the modern seasons. The worst moment of the episode has to be where Brian lists the old woman's super long last name instead of just "her name is Pip Onassis but she has hundreds of other last names." It's not Daenerys Targayean where she has a dozen names, it takes like a minute and a half. And then Stewie repeats it. And then they have to hear people sing Happy Birthday to her while saying her super long last name, and the only animation being the door moving. Apparently the wiki says it's a Monty Python reference, but it just reads like they didn't know how to make the plot work, so they just gave us this. The Mysterious Mr. Enter says that modern FG has a problem with "Dad Noises" jokes where they just have a boring anti-humor joke go on and on to burn a minute of screen-time. It's annoying when Peter spends a minute trying to open a can of spinach, but it makes me angered when it happens here. It's on the level of Peter in "Trump Guy" deriding Bob's Burgers for having shitty animation, despite the fact he's not one to talk.
  • Captain Tedium: I stopped watching the show a long time ago because of my distaste with the show's constant mean-spirited and offensive gags and originally refrained from contributing to the Dethroning Moments page because there was hardly any complaint I had about the show that wasn't already addressed by one of the other contributors, but I heard about an episode with a moment that I finally found worth adding to the Dethroning Moments page. My Dethroning Moment for the series is "Trump Guy", specifically the part where Donald Trump replies to Peter's criticism of Bob's Burgers by stating that it is his favorite show and Peter responds by remarking that the Emmy voters should remember that fact the next time they consider nominating Bob's Burgers. It's everyone's right to say that they dislike even the most well-liked shows, but insinuating that a show doesn't deserve praise just because a very unpopular person is a fan of it is just dumb. Judging a work's quality by the kind of people who enjoy the show makes about as much sense as assuming that being a feminist automatically makes you a misandrist. There are many shows I enjoy watching, and if I had to swear off any of them just because there were fans who happened to be unpleasant people, then I wouldn't have many shows left to like. It's the creators' opinion if they don't like Bob's Burgers, but they went way out of line by resorting to the association fallacy when decrying it.

    Season 18 
  • Emperor Oshron: I guess it was only a matter of time before another awful episode came up so that every single season of Family Guy thus far is represented here. For context, I actually enjoyed the series once upon a time but essentially grew out of, only continuing to watch out of morbid curiosity for how long it takes for an episode to have a particularly bad joke in it, particularly its bad habit in recent seasons of explaining jokes before they actually tell them, (protip: if the audience needs to already know the joke to get the joke then you've completely failed as a comedian) or else to find the single chuckle-worthy moment in an entire episode, if not in the entire season. It's gotten to the point that even the once-in-a-blue-moon original jokes told on the show don't even get a smile, let alone a laugh, because the bar has just been set so low. And then I saw "Better Off Meg", episode 18 of season 18. The basic premise is that Meg's ID card is accidentally taken by another woman at the bowling alley and she subsequently dies in a car crash which leaves her unrecognizable, so Meg is mistaken for dead and rolls with it because, frankly, that's a reasonable course of action considering what shitty people the entire main cast are. Naturally, there's a memorial service and the family attends and, in typical Family Guy fashion, every single person there demonstrates what horrible people they are by not caring all that much. When Lois and then Brian, in two separate scenes, start crying—much more understandable but, honestly, out of character considering how they and everyone else normally behaves, but I'm actually willing to forgive that for a moment—Peter tells them, increasingly annoyed, to stop crying. As someone who very suddenly lost his mother within the past year and has lost other loved ones in the past and bawled his eyes out every time: Seth MacFarlane, go fuck yourself with a rusty spike. While I've heard that you don't actually write for the show anymore, I've also heard that you still need to approve episodes, so if this and just about every other episode in the series since then is any indicator of your decision-making skills if not your writing ability, then you can go fuck yourself with a blowtorch, too.

     Season 19 
  • AustinDR: For me, it's "Boys & Squirrels." In the episode, Chris and Stewie decide to raise a baby squirrel after its parents are killed in an accident. After growing attached to the squirrel, it is predictably killed and eaten by Brian. While you can make the argument that it is unsurprising given that it's in Brian's nature to do so, Brian nevertheless is consistently depicted as a sapient dog meaning that he should at least have some restraints when his inner dog comes out. Worse, Brian completely vanishes after this not showing up at the funeral arrangement or getting called out by any of the family members. In short, Brian's presence in this episode can be chalked up as just being a Diabolus ex Machina.

    The Cleveland Show 
"My name is Cleveland Brown, and I am here to say, all of these moments are why my show went away~"
  • Shadow Slip: The way they wrote out Cleveland's ex-wife in that Family Guy crossover. Basically, it says a man (Glenn Quagmire) can be an adulterer (let's not forget some of his more questionable behavior) all he likes and not get any sort of comeuppance for his behavior, but when a woman does it even once has to be made to pay for it with her life later on! I am sick of this.
  • aldo512: According to "The Hurricane", not just God would ever forgive Loretta for what she did and the very thought of it is enough to make Junior stop believing in God. This wouldn't be so bad, except he apparently has no problems with Quagmire getting off free for what he did with basically no repercussions. That's not even getting into how, even though we're apparently supposed to be on Junior's side about saving up the food, he doesn't even bring it up until the rest of the family confront him about it, despite having plenty of opportunities to do so before.
    • Melancholy Utopia: Not only that, but God not forgiving adultery doesn't make a lick of sense. In the Bible, King David committed adultery and indirect murder, but due to tearfully regretting his sins, God forgives him, on the grounds that he gets punished. If he can forgive that, why can't he forgive less? It feels less like the writers want to be legitimately reasoned with, and more like that they will pull blatant lies out of their asses just to make religion look bad.
  • Kashima Kitty: The Season One Finale "You're the Best Man, Cleveland Brown" shows Loretta being unusually spiteful in her will, giving everything to Junior and stating that he were to share any of it with Cleveland or tell Cleveland how much he was receiving, it would all go to Quagmire. Not only does it seem like they're going to great lengths to make Loretta unlikable (perhaps to "justify" her bashing), but this flies in the face of the Family Guy episode "Love, Blactually" where Loretta not only felt remorseful for cheating on Cleveland and the two making amends, but also wanted nothing to do with Quagmire, calling him the devil and blaming him for ruining her marriage. Despite this, it seems that every time Loretta is mentioned on the show, it's either related to her having the affair or doing dickish things like this so that we can all say "Yea she was a terrible person, she deserved to die!"
    • MsCC93: I agree with you about how Loretta was deliberately made out to be a jackass by blaming Quagmire (when Loretta herself made the decision to cheat on Cleveland with his best friend of all people). The writers making Loretta randomly do Jerkass deeds are just, to me, flimsy attempts at trying to get fans to hate her even more after what she did to Cleveland. These attempts are just backfiring because it’s difficult to single out Loretta when almost everyone on this show have been turned into assholes in post-cancellation seasons (or have done much worse things than Loretta did). Sure Loretta did deserve karmic punishment for cheating on Cleveland, but I’m not gonna jump on this “let’s single out and hate only Loretta” bandwagon that the writers are leading. I even noticed a double standard with her, Lois, and Bonnie. The latter two have not only cheated on their husbands, but Lois even raped hers and Bonnie had even wished that Joe were dead. I always found it unfair that Loretta was given a cruel fate while the latter two get off easy for doing much worse.
  • ctando1: For a non-Loretta related DMoS, mine was the ending to "Brownsized". Yes, I know Cleveland pretending to be jobless was a bad thing for him to do, but what Donna did to him was worse. She pushes Cleveland off of a building and he lands safely on a bounce house. Someone says it was a good thing he landed on that crash pad, but then Donna said "There was a crash pad?" Yep. Donna tried to kill Cleveland. I know Cleveland in this series may be an annoying jackass who lied about being jobless, but he didn't deserve this! I was surprised there wasn't a cop to arrest her.
  • Automne: The Essence of Cleveland. It kicks off with Cleveland in an ambulance and the paramedics asking Donna pertinent questions about Cleveland. She's unable to answer even the simplest queries, such as how to spell his name. But what's truly awful is that she didn't know that Cleveland is deathly allergic to penicillin. Now I don't expect married couples to know everything about each other down to the most minute detail, but I expect that each person knows what might kill their spouse. When Cleveland confronts Donna about how little she knows about him, she basically tells him that she doesn't need to know anything about him and that it's completely unimportant that she bother to learn anything about her husband because she's the prize - Cleveland mooned over her all through high school and now he's finally got her, so he should be forever grateful for that and not expect her to treat him like she gives a damn about him or anything. This is especially irritating given that Donna has already been given the characterization that Cleveland not knowing every little detail about her would result in him being in the doghouse for an obscenely long time until he made some expensively grand romantic gesture to earn her forgiveness. Nor does she realize that the price for the dubious honor of being married to her comes with living in a shitty, racist town with zero opportunities with shitty, racist friends, being mistreated by Donna's ex-husband whose kids Cleveland is providing all financial and emotional support for because Robert doesn't give a crap about his progeny, being mistreated by Rollo and Donna allowing him to get away with it, and being far too close in proximity to his very abusive father and the mother that has just allowed it to happen. Anyhoo, Cleveland then discovers that somebody in Stoolbend has a crush on him and it turns out to be an old high school classmate, Patty. Donna smirks at this and takes a great deal of pleasure in telling Cleveland that Patty is "Fatty Patty" from school and clearly expects Patty to still be obese and unattractive; again, proving Donna's theory that she's the best Cleveland can ever do. Of course, over the years, Patty lost weight and has become very attractive, with the added bonus of knowing all the information about Cleveland that Donna couldn't answer at the beginning of the episode. And the reason she developed a crush on Cleveland all those years ago was because he was the only person that didn't bully her. Of course Donna becomes jealous and forbids Cleveland to see Patty. The final kicker is that instead of resolving the conflict by having Donna realize that she needs to be a better partner in the marriage instead of basing the whole union on keeping Cleveland in fear of the idea that he can't do better (clearly that's now been debunked), they turn Patty psychotic. She develops a major case of baby rabies, abducts Cleveland by drugging him, tying him to her bed, and sexually assaults him in order to get him to ejaculate so she can harvest his sperm in order to inseminate herself. Donna saves Cleveland and proves that she "knows" Cleveland by telling Patty all his flaws. Patty then determines that she can do better. End story. So Donna basically learns nothing and continues being a stuck-up bitch who thinks that she's still as hot as she was in high school and not a bald middle-aged woman fighting gravity with two kids and a deadbeat ex-husband. She can't spell Cleveland's first name and doesn't know that penicillin will kill him, but she can tell a person she looked down upon and bullied in high school what a shitty person she thinks her current husband is. She retains all the power and gets rid of her competition without requiring any personality improvement on her part. And somehow, that's all right.
  • fruitstripegum: "Gone With the Wind": Loretta dies, and Cleveland naturally cries during her funeral... and Donna gets angry with him! I get that Loretta was a bitch, but she was also the woman Cleveland was married to for about 14 years, AND the mother of his son! For god's sake, does Donna expect him to be HAPPY that someone died?!
  • Kris Simsters: "Pins, Spins, and Fins!": The main reason I hate this episode is because Donna tells Rallo that adults are better at everything than kids. Kids are still learning how to do things, they don't need to be the best. This isn't the first time Donna throws this in Rallo's face, but it's the one I hate this one the most because it comes with a song. The "Kids Suck at Everything" song is the worst song ever sung on The Cleveland Show and what makes it worst, Donna has Rallo reprise it when it comes to the fire, but she makes it worst as well. Yes, Rallo shouldn't have wandered off on his own looking for Cleveland, but Donna wasn't even worried about him. She just told him he was wrong and that's what makes Donna just as bad as Lois.


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