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God, the Devil, and Flynn: Let's Play Shin Megami Tensei IV!
Hunter1
Nice to see that you're doing another liveblog; the Strange Journey one was a great read and I look forward to seeing what you do with this one.
dragonfire5000
SaintDeltora
Hunter1
SEESWildCard
They show as five targets on the target select panel, but I've hit them with Ma- spells before. They only do three hits.
Hunter1
I find myself being quite curious about Flynn's demons' opinions on his 'fundraising.'
dragonfire5000
gamerex27
It's actually a rule I made for myself when writing this story: the demons must provide all of the comedy. Flynn can be funny, but only in response to a demon being funny first (such as his reaction to Slime's personality completely changing when the App was turned on, which was also more or less my reaction).
HamburgerTime
montagohalcyon
Hunter1
HamburgerTime
Poison...? Oh yes, that part. I hated that part.
Hunter1
dragonfire5000
Hunter1
You really have to wonder how Navarre managed to get the Gauntlet to shine for him...
dragonfire5000
dragonfire5000
Flynn at the moment I'm writing closer to Jonathan that Walter; he hasn't drank the Kool-aid to the extent Jonathan has, but I get the impression that East Mikado citizens who think East Mikado isn't all that hot stuff, like Walter, are the exception rather than the rule. This'll change when he goes to Tokyo and sees its good points, too; unlike Jonathan, he'll begin to think that Tokyo is worth preserving, too.
HamburgerTime
Hunter1
Who was you AI partner during the Minotaur fight? Since Walter adds a new dimension of difficulty if he's present for that battle.
ComicX6
Fun Fact: Minotaur being the first "real" boss seems to be a reference to the first Megami Tensei on the Famicom, where he is likewise the first boss. This may seem like a coincidence, but the two games also share their second boss as well...
Otherarrow
I got lucky; my partner was Jonathan, enabling me to beat him in one try. My first, Bad Ending playthrough, I actually DID beat him with Walter as my partner.
HamburgerTime
Hunter1
Out of curiosity, are you going to be detailing the challenge quests?
dragonfire5000
Otherarrow
Fixed.
HamburgerTime
Looks like Medusa's been blown off.
dragonfire5000
Hunter1
GAH! Sorry. I'll get that next time. Which should be tonight or tomorrow.
HamburgerTime
Hunter1
dragonfire5000
Hunter1
HamburgerTime
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Hunter1
And of course Stephen stays exactly the same through all this... What IS he?
HamburgerTime
Hunter1
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I find myself hoping that Flynn finds a DEMONICA with the name 'Drake Sinclair' on it.
dragonfire5000
There won't be any indications Drake actually lived here, as I think they're in different universes. However, I do think some of the more prominent demons can cross universes, so you may very well hear references to him, particularly once a certain Great Raven joins the team far from now...
HamburgerTime
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The Undead race is in pretty poor shape in this game. There's only 8 demons belonging to it, and 4 of those you can't get period. It was bad enough that they moved Alice from being a Fiend to an Undead just to fill out the ranks some (she's also the only one you get in a "normal" manner, being a Lvl 49 Special Fusion).
Hunter1
dragonfire5000
Got Corpse on my Law playthrough, thus saving him to the Compendium. He'll show up.
HamburgerTime
Is it really cannibalism if the one eating humans is not human himself?
dragonfire5000
Really, there are only three special hoops for getting demons on your side in this game, and we've already run into all three of them: Beat it to fuse it; recruit with Scout+; or get lucky with a fusion accident.
Hunter1
There's also the you-know-whos; on paper they're "beat it to fuse it" but the luck factor may count as a fourth "hoop."
HamburgerTime
Hunter1
Hunter1
Also, I finally added information about Terminals to ch. 7, so if you're confused as to why I suddenly started mentioning them, go there. Totally my fault.
HamburgerTime
I always liked the demons that belong to the Clan of Death. Flynn is wise to be so careful around them.
dragonfire5000
dragonfire5000
Hunter1
I thought Asmodeus was a little overdesigned...and then I got a good look at some of the DLC demons...
dragonfire5000
I have no idea why, but the advertising seemed to want us to think Asmodeus was a major character, as he appears as the "face" of the Chaos side in most of the promotions and is even more prominent than... a certain femme fatale on the box art. In reality, this is his only appearance in the game unless you bring him into your team later on.
HamburgerTime
I think the reason Asmodeus is on the cover is because the designers wanted to show off the artwork from the guest artists.
dragonfire5000
ComicX6
Hunter1
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If Flynn's demons ever need work, they can form a sitcom. I'd totally watch it.
dragonfire5000
HamburgerTime
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I think I missed something, what is "miso"?
montagohalcyon
It's a type of Japanese soup. Apparently, those possessed by Kudas are obsessed with eating it.
HamburgerTime
dragonfire5000
Hunter1
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It seems to be implied the Gauntlet came from a DEMONICA, which makes me wonder if the Gauntlet held all the DEMONICA's magical mojo in SJ, too. Of course, given that SJ is first-person, we never do see what part of it Drake/Mehreen/Whatever his name is accesses the interface with.
HamburgerTime
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Hunter1
HamburgerTime
...Sometimes, I hate being right.
Hunter1
One could almost forget that demons have been known to eat humans when looking at the crowd Flynn hangs out with.
dragonfire5000
HamburgerTime
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White shadow eh? How fascinating...
Otherarrow
Things are getting interesting here...
Hunter1
dragonfire5000
Ah, that's an interesting way to handle the demonization of gods from other cultures.
gamerex27
Otherarrow
Nebiros's laugh is glorious; I would love to see that part animated and voice-acted.
dragonfire5000
HamburgerTime
And of course, I forgot to do most of these quests. Will they still be avaliable once I'm past the alignment lock?
gamerex27
montagohalcyon
Obviously Garrote is into auto-erotic asphyxiation.
gamerex27
HamburgerTime
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Hunter1
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dragonfire5000
Hunter1
dragonfire5000
I'm surprised that none of the more lewd demons (I'm looking at you, Incumbus) made any joked regarding Kin-Ki's name. Then again, since the brothers are famous, I guess they were too scared to provoke them.
gamerex27
HamburgerTime
dragonfire5000
OmegaRadiance
Reviving Aeris? That's easy, just get Chisame to hack the game with her pactio. Heck, you can even make it so she doesn't die in the first place and hooks up with Cloud and Tifa. Of course, given Chisame's personality, getting her to do this in the first place is rather difficult, as Eva found out...
Hunter1
Otherarrow
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HamburgerTime
FE reference in an SMT game, eh? Well, the two franchises ARE getting a crossover game, after all.
ReikoKazama
Mysterion
I think the proper answer to that last question would be...a bad dresser?
dragonfire5000
Oh! Also, you may have noticed Flynn's speech is becoming more modern. That was also intentional; it's meant to show how he's fallen in love with Tokyo as he becomes a Neutral champion.
HamburgerTime
I remember beating Alciel much earlier in the game purely by virtue of having a demon that reflected Physical. Dumb luck wins like that are rather satisfying.
ComicX6
Hunter1
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Otherarrow
Hunter1
dragonfire5000
Author's note: Yes, I'm finally back. Sorry, got hooked on Fiend-hunting; got 'em all in four days, woo! This chapter sees the debut of Mastema, who seemed rather popular in Sinclair Drake Vs., so hopefully you like him here, as well. Also, there's some tidbits for mythology fans in here; see if you can spot them!
HamburgerTime
Uh...I seem to remember SMT!Mara being a she, funnily enough.
gamerex27
This game is contradictory. He has a male personality and the Terminal Guardian calls him a "he," but the Compendium says "she." I just went with the "majority," so to speak.
HamburgerTime
ComicX6
dragonfire5000
Can't wait for the next part. Couple of chuckle-worthy moments in this bit, such as "STOP MAKING SENSE!" and "I'm sorry, Jonathan; you're just not very scary." (On another note, I got a 3DS for my birthday [along with Pokemon X! WOOT!], and this is one of the games I plan to get for it. Not sure which route I'll take first up, though... guess I'll just see where my choices take me, then aim for Neutral on my next playthrough. Or... something. Yeah. xD)
ReikoKazama
I find myself wondering, given certain DLC episodes, if God has multiple personalities...or if there is actually more than one God in the setting. Both possibilities would actually make a lot of sense for me.
dragonfire5000
HamburgerTime
Otherarrow
Hunter1
That's at the first split, where you go with Jonathan or Walter to confront Lilith or Tayama.
HamburgerTime
Looking forward to Flynn's meeting with David's seniors. Those Clan of Death members often leave a trail of broken bodies, all made of the poor suckers who went in without preparation.
dragonfire5000
Sooo hyped for the next part!
ReikoKazama
Don't worry, it's coming; I've just been a bit distracted.
HamburgerTime
Ah, distractions. I know all about those. *cough*Spyro*cough*
ReikoKazama
OmegaRadiance
Author's note: Whew, that was a long time. Sorry. New semester, all sorts of stuff going on, you know the drill. In the interim, I've actually beaten the game, so, yes, this is no longer strictly a live blog; sorry. So, yeah, Fiends! Part 2 will be up by tomorrow. Also, Hresvelgr's insult is something I pulled out of a book of Shakespearean insults I have. Seriously.
HamburgerTime
dragonfire5000
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No longer strictly a live blog, you say? Doesn't matter, still watching ^_^
ReikoKazama
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Hunter1
Author's note: So, there you have it: how to fight Fiends. I'm amazed at how lucky I was in getting them all so fast (four days). I also tried to give some closure to Ares and Gurr/Garuda's stories, as they'd been semi-recurring characters who I thought were pretty fun to write, and we never do learn who Ares' master was in the game. Also I hope the demons waxing nostalgic for their destroyed homelands has made you at least a little sad.
HamburgerTime
dragonfire5000
ReikoKazama
dragonfire5000
ReikoKazama
Oops. You use {{ these }}.
ReikoKazama
I don't understand why it won't let me edit my posts on this thing... o_o
ReikoKazama
OoooOOOOOooooooh! The plot thickens~ *totes hyped for the fight with Lucifer*
ReikoKazama
Well, given that the LP seems to wrapping up at this point, this is likely the best place to ask: Should we expect to see any of the DLC here?
Hunter1
Reiko, in answer to your question, if I want to edit a comment I have to click, on the main liveblog page, the number of comments for a particular blog, then scroll to find mine. Can't do it from the actual blog.
montagohalcyon
ReikoKazama
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Author's note: Another pretty short one, I know; mostly plot points and introductions for endgame demons. It's just that this dungeon isn't very hard, seriously. I like Guedhe's design and his mythical counterpart even though he's not all that long-term useful in this game so I gave him something to do, and you may also notice Flynn's speech is almost totally modern now. Entirely intentional.
HamburgerTime
^ I gathered that, yes. With the, uh, almost totally modern speech thing. And stuff. I should shut up now. XDD And two new quests, eh? This'll be fun...
ReikoKazama
Hunter1
HamburgerTime
dragonfire5000
I do like the implication that Asmodeus is the "grown up" Aeshma, as obvious as that connection is to make considering their mythological origins and the fact that one is just the other but in white.
Otherarrow
HamburgerTime
Lucifer next up... can't wait.
ReikoKazama
Well, that's Lucifer done with. What's next, I wonder?
ReikoKazama
The ending, some rather nasty post-game DLC bosses (the worst of which puts you under a strict 10 turn limit facing a boss that nulls everything), and the wrap up for the LP's story.
Hunter1
I plan to do the re-visits to the alternate Tokyos next, then the Law and Chaos superbosses, and finally the Neutral superboss and the ending, in that order.
HamburgerTime
dragonfire5000
dragonfire5000
HamburgerTime
ReikoKazama
Oh, I cannot wait to see your opinion on the last DLC boss...
Hunter1
dragonfire5000
Final chapter coming tomorrow!
HamburgerTime
So... An epilouge, and... Then what? You pull out Soul Hackers, one of the Devil Survivors, an Etrian Odyssey, or something else?
Hunter1
HamburgerTime
Whoo! Well, this was an epic journey indeed! (I still wonder if I can find it anywhere... us Australians always get the short end of the stick. T_T) Wonder what's next?
ReikoKazama
Well, that was a great conclusion to a great liveblog. As Burroughs would put it, "Congratulations on completing the quest."
dragonfire5000
HamburgerTime
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