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A new version of a Spin-Off doesn't mention its parent show at all.

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Proposed By:
DAMartin on Sep 13th 2018 at 8:34:30 AM
Last Edited By:
DAMartin on Sep 16th 2018 at 6:03:42 PM
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When a character from a work gets his own adventures, or concepts from a series are used to create another, that's a Spin-Off. Sometimes these Spin-Offs are either rebooted or adapted to other media with zero reference to the original work they derive from. This may be due to the adaptors not having the rights for the original work, or due to a More Popular Spinoff getting adapted while the original is forgotten.


Examples

Live-Action TV

Western Animation

  • She-Ra and the Princesses of Power is a new version of a Masters of the Universe spin-off, yet there's no mention to He-Man or any MOTU character besides the ones who were transplanted to She-Ra stories by Filmation.
  • There was a subversion when The Smurfs were adapted into The Smurfs. Season 1 made no mention to Johan and Peewit, which seemed like an example of this trope, until season 2 began adapting some Johan stories with the Smurfs' roles expanded. Therefore, while the adaptation has no hint of being based on a spin-off, the original work is still somewhat recognized.

Feedback: 8 replies

Sep 14th 2018 at 4:59:40 AM

Sep 14th 2018 at 12:05:29 PM

  • Not many people are aware Family Matters was spun off of Perfect Strangers. Initially, the main characters from Perfect Strangers were supposed to appear in the first episode of Family Matters. Throughout Family Matter’s nine season run, the show they spun off from was never mentioned.

Sep 15th 2018 at 7:29:04 AM

Live-Action TV:

Sep 15th 2018 at 12:49:47 PM

In the Steel movie his name still seems to be derived from Superman (as Shaq suits up for the first time, another character sees him put armour over the S-shield tattoo on his arm and says something like "Well I'll be. John Irons has turned himself into the Man of Steel!"). Though it's implied that he's just a fictional character within the movie's setting.

Sep 15th 2018 at 10:10:38 PM

Live Action TV

  • Lucifer 2016 is a loose adaptation of a comic that began as a spin-off of The Sandman, but there is no mention of anything connected to the Dreaming.

Sep 16th 2018 at 12:18:16 AM

I thought "some elements of the original work are not mentioned in the spinoff" is a natural thing to happen in spinoffs... which means virtually all spinoffs count for this.

Sep 16th 2018 at 12:17:10 PM

Sep 16th 2018 at 5:59:19 PM

The trope idea was about reboots or adaptations of pre-existing spin-offs that have the original as pretty much non-existing, but I'm beginning to wonder if the trope has wiggle room for Spin-offs ignoring the original right off the bat, like those Family Matters and Daria examples. In the meantime, I'm adding the Lucifer example and deleting the Steel one given that, as Prime 32 points out, it has some Superman references, even if as an in-universe fictional character (I seem to remember an ally [not Sparks, the other one] telling him he's no Superman).

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