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We should really just have an index for all the Christianity themed and inspired stuff.

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Rhodes7 on Mar 27th 2018 at 12:48:01 PM
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Rhodes7 on Mar 30th 2018 at 8:07:38 AM
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Fiction inspired by Christianity. Not the Bible, as that would be the other way around.


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Feedback: 19 replies

Mar 27th 2018 at 1:42:27 PM

I'm not so sure about this, but maybe it'd work if it was about Religious-themed/inspired fiction rather than specifically Christian? There can be different categories for each religion.

Mar 27th 2018 at 3:16:35 PM

I have no particular objection to the change, though a hard time thinking of many examples off the top of my head.

Mind some of that may be I myself am not sure where the cutoff point should be for influence/inspiration. I think we can all agree that one X-Man (Nightcrawler) being a devout Christian does not make the X-Men a Christian comic book. (Sigh) and I should probably add in Chick Tracts. But I digress, what about works with a prominent character who is a devout cleric, maybe the main character, as in The Scarlet and the Black, Don Camillo, Father Brown? What about stories about Church politics, like Angels and Demons, the Pope, the Borgias? Where faith is a significant motivator (Kingdom of Heaven, Medici, Man For All Seasons, Call In the Midwife) for various characters or conflict or religious relics a driving force of the plot (any Indiana Jones but Crystal Skull)?

Is the Breadwinner an Islamic novel/film, because Pavana sometimes prays? Is a vampire hunter or Evangelion for having crosses on everything? Death Note, for the prominent Christian imagery? Or shall this be an index solely for stories about faith?

Mar 27th 2018 at 3:24:24 PM

I think shoving all religious works into the same index would make it so broad as to be meaningless. Christianity and Islam have artistic traditions that are quite distinct from each other, so I think this index could serve as the Christian one while another index could be developed for Islamic works.

I think it makes sense to make this index for stories where the point of the story is to represent or argue regarding Christian faith. So works that merely use Christian imagery (like Death Note) or feature a Christian character (like X Men) would not qualify for this index, while a work with Christian themes (like Hacksaw Ridge) would fall under this index.

Mar 27th 2018 at 3:25:16 PM

Chick Tracts have to be on here, really.

Personally I'd say that a work really should be about religion and religious life. The Da Vinci Code isn't about religious life; it's a thriller.

Mar 27th 2018 at 6:07:38 PM

would something like Film/Silence fit here?

Mar 27th 2018 at 6:25:22 PM

I would say yes, Silence absolutely qualifies.

Do any of you have an opinion on prominent use of angels/demons? I included Misfile because three major characters are angels (one of whom made a filing error that set the entire plot into motion) and God definitively exists, but its not really about faith or so far forgiveness, though Rumsiel earning his way back into Heaven to correct his mistake is a major plot point. And I think it works, Good Omens too.

But I wouldn't consider putting in, say, the Dresden Files or Doom.

Mar 28th 2018 at 8:10:04 AM

Angels and demons are popular enough in folk tales that works featuring them aren't always Christian. I don't think "The Devil Went Down To Georgia" or Cuphead would fit on this index just because of the Devil's presence.

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Mar 28th 2018 at 8:50:39 AM

There should probably be some kind of warning in case someone decides to add The Bible itself to the index, although that should be covered under ROCEJ.

Mar 28th 2018 at 12:55:57 PM

Veggietales?

Added in some examples, including most of the Pure Flix lineup. Can't believe I forgot the Ten Commandments, which reminded me to add Prince of Egypt. So yes, I'm thinking the mere presence of angels or demons won't rate a mention, but if the Abrahamic God is demonstrably real in the work, or if faith is central, its in.

I'll ask again, do you guys and gals think stories where the protagonists or central characters are religious, and that informs some but not all of their personality and actions, it goes here? Stories like Don Camillo, Father Brown, I suppose Signs rates a mention either way given how faith is approached there.

Mar 28th 2018 at 12:59:14 PM

I think this index would be best suited to stories where the Abrahamic God is not only provably real but the faith weighs heavily on the plot.

Mar 28th 2018 at 2:04:54 PM

Yes, Christian allegories count. Narnia is already in the index.

Added Veggietales. Quick browsing of the article for Three Two One Penguins turned up no obvious ties behind the same creator, and Strawinsky and the Mysterious House I found only contempt for non-scriptual reading, which doesn't really strike me as making the cut. I could be wrong, of course, having not seen these.

I checked that I wasn't imagining things, and there was a big-budget Samson movie that came out a month ago. 25% critics and 67% audience on Rotton Tomatoes. Doesn't seem to have rated an article here. Actually, looks like there are seven different film versions of Samson and Delilah since 1924, none with articles, but having not seen any I don't feel qualified to create them.

Mar 29th 2018 at 2:03:25 PM

Added.

What do the lot of you think should be done with noted criticisms, deconstructions and parodies of Christian teachings and stories? Just throw them in there, give them their own category or let them be?

Mar 30th 2018 at 7:07:27 AM

Added quite a few entries. I had no idea there were quite so many cartoons dedicated to teaching religious messages to kids. Nor that most were quite so hamfisted or poorly produced.

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