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A group of villains decide the fate of a captive via shouted suggestions

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Benthelame on Oct 12th 2017 at 7:52:56 PM
Last Edited By:
Benthelame on Oct 15th 2017 at 4:07:41 PM
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It's an excellent day for our villain and/or his menagerie of Mooks. After countless attempts he has finally captured Bob but the question remains:What are they going to do with him? Naturally the group starts making suggestions:

Carol: I say we tar and feather him!
Dan:: I say we chop him to bits!
Eva: "I say we cut off his feet!"

For added comedic effect, the hostage may obscure their voice and add I say we let him go! An action of this sort is very fitting given that these types of scenarios are Played for Laughs more often than anything else. Note that this trope refers specifically to instances in which the fate of a captive is being decided by the group that has captured them and that said suggestions are given verbally or using body language. If the villain .merely ties the captive up and leaves a suggestion box for his minions to slip paper in, it doesn't count. Also note that this trope is not about using any set of exact words.


Examples

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    Anime & Manga 
  • Deltora Quest features an episode in which Barda, Leif and Jasmine are captured by Thaegan's Children. They decide to eat the trio, but (as Leif quickly points out) there are thirteen of them and it would be pretty hard to divide three people with that many to feed. One of the children kills another making the present company an even number. Through much talking, Leif manages to convince them that each child could have more food if there were only nine of them. One of the children kills three more of his brothers and sisters. Leif points out that Jasmine is very tiny and that whoever got her would have far less to eat. The Children quarrel and eventually it's decided that it would only be fair if there were three of them so each child could have one. A huge fight ensues and the heroes escape during it.

     Film - Animated 
  • Scooby-Doo! Pirates Ahoy! features an instance of this. The Big Bad and his crew capture Rupert Garcia hoping to make use of his skills as an astrocartographer but he proves unable to aid them:

    Captain: Buckoes, what should we do to the lily-livered landlubber who stands in my... In our way to greatness?
    Crew Member One:Keelhaul him.
    Crew Member Two:Tar and feather him.
    Rupert:Let him go.
  • My Little Pony: The Movie (2017) has an example, Having escaped The Dragon, The mane six find themselves on an airship and are discovered by its crew. The group promptly decides what should happen to them:
    Crew Member One: I think we tie em' up. [Applejack gasps]
    Crew Member Two: Nah we clip their wings.[Rainbow Dash gasps]
    Crew Member Three: Nah we scar em' [Rarity screams and he looks over at Fluttershy] emotionally.
    [Fluttershy cries]

    Film - Live Action 
  • Of course, there is that moment in Pee-wee's Big Adventure where the biker gang Satan's Helpers all try to discuss what to do Pee-wee, not only for his barging into their club rudely, but also for his accidentally knocking over their parked motorcycles like dominoes:
    Biker #1: I say... we kill him.
    Bikers: Yeah!
    Biker #2: I say we hang him, then we kill him.
    Bikers: Yeah!
    Biker #3: I say we stomp him!
    Bikers: Yeah!
    Biker #3: Then we tattoo him!
    Bikers:Yeah!
    Biker #3: Then we hang him!
    Bikers: Yeah!
    Biker #3: And then we kill him!
    'Bikers: Yeah!
    Pee-wee: (under his breath) I say we let him go.
    Bikers: No!
    [Suddenly, there is the sound of someone whistling to get the bikers' attention; it's a female biker who comes up and grabs Pee-wee]
    Biker chick: I say you let me have him first!
    Bikers: [all laugh]
  • Inverted in Aliens Vasquez,Hicks,Hudson and Ripley are the heroes of the film and they must decide how best to rid themselves of the hostile aliens. When it's Ripley's turn to speak , he says I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.

    Literature 
  • In The Hobbit, a trio of trolls capture Bilbo Baggins and the dwarves and plan to eat them (well, not Bilbo,since he doesn't have enough meat on him), but can't agree on how to cook them. Every time the trolls start to agree, an outside voice chimes in and restarts their argument. This persists so long, the sunrise catches them by surprise and turns them into stone. And that outside voice who kept the trolls arguing reveals himself to be Gandalf.

     Live Action Tv 
  • Lab Rats has a special in which the bionic students turn on Donald Davenport and his family. The leader, Sebastian, tells the students that they must destroy Leo if they're truly committed to the rebellion. When they congregate to decide which method is best, Leo changes his voice and says "I say we sleep on it."
  • Gamer's Guide to Pretty Much Everything has an episode in which Connor and Wendel try to pass themselves off as troubled youth. When they hear their group of newfound troubled friends plotting to get revenge on the school they attend (The troubled youth believed the students were responsible for wrecking the statue of their founder) They offer a suggestion themselves. Namely, they suggest breaking into the school and leaving a plate of freshly baked cookies.

    Western Animation 
  • Codename: Kids Next Door has an example in the episode entitled "Licorice." It turns out that Heinrich ate the seed that Black John and crew needed to break their curse. The crew gives suggestions on how to get it back:
    Black John Licorice's Pirate 1: Then I say we plunge his stomach to get the seed!
    Black John's Pirates: Yeah!
    Black John Licorice's Pirate 2: I say reach down his throat and grab it!
    Black John's Pirates: Yeah!
    Black John Licorice's Pirate 3: I say kick him in the stomach 'til he coughs up the seed!
    Black John's Pirates: Yeah!
    Black John Licorice's Pirate 4: I say we plunge him, reach down his throat, kick him in the stomach, and give him the worst wedgie of his life!
    Black John's Pirates: Yeah!
    Heinrich Von Marzipan: I say we send him home.
  • In Courage the Cowardly Dog', Muriel gets captured by a group of water-starved eggplants. In a particularly cruel effort to turn the tables, they decide to avenge every eggplant by eating Muriel. Their squabble starts when it comes down to the method of cooking her. One suggests that they grill her, another suggests that they fry her. They break into two groups, each screaming one of these two methods. Finally , a lone eggplant suggests that they bake her. Everyone agrees.
  • Zigzagged in DuckTales (2017). Webby, the triplets and Lena are taken hostage by the beagle boys and despite their large numbers, they have no trouble deciding that they want to give Lena and Webby to their Ma for a birthday gift. It is her birthday after all and Even Bad Men Love Their Mamas. They even manage to decide that Huey, Louie and Dewey will be her mother's day gift. The trouble starts when Lena slyly asks which group will be the ones to hand them over to her, even adding that they could share the credit. Each group suggests themselves more or less and a huge fight ensues.

Feedback: 10 replies

Oct 13th 2017 at 10:14:28 PM

No New Stock Phrases

Edit: Okay, new name works a lot better.

Oct 12th 2017 at 10:11:13 PM

Of course, there is that moment in Pee Wees Big Adventure where the biker gang Satan's Helpers all try to discuss what to do Pee-wee, not only for his barging into their club rudely, but also for his accidentally knocking over their parked motorcycles like dominoes:

Biker #1: I say... we kill him. Bikers: Yeah! Biker #2: I say we hang him, then we kill him. Bikers: Yeah! Biker #3: I say we stomp him! Bikers: Yeah! Biker #3: Then we tattoo him! Biker: Yeah! Biker #3: Then we hang him! Bikers: Yeah! Biker #3: And then we kill him! Bikers: Yeah! Pee-wee: (under his breath) I say we let him go. Bikers: No! (Suddenly, there is the sound of someone whistling to get the bikers' attention; it's a female biker who comes up and grabs Pee-wee) Biker chick: I say you let me have him first! Bikers: (all laugh)

Oct 12th 2017 at 10:15:37 PM

This isn't about using those exact words. This is about deciding the fate of a hostage via shouted suggestions.

Oct 12th 2017 at 10:16:24 PM

  • In The Hobbit, a trio of trolls capture Bilbo Baggins and the dwarves and plan to eat them (well, not Bilbo, since he doesn't have enough meat on him), but can't agree on how to cook them. Every time the trolls start to agree, an outside voice chimes in and restarts their argument. This persists so long, the sunrise catches them by surprise and turns them into stone. And that outside voice who kept the trolls arguing reveals himself to be Gandalf.

Oct 12th 2017 at 10:58:11 PM

New examples added! Title changed to erase confusion. Thanks everyone.

Oct 13th 2017 at 5:43:02 PM

Corrected "villians" to "villains".

Oct 14th 2017 at 11:56:39 PM

I don't think the picture does a good job of illustrating the trope — it seems to me that it hinges on what the characters in the strip are saying, and it's way too small to read anything.

Oct 15th 2017 at 3:24:07 PM

Size is definitely an issue. It needs to be altered. I'll get right on that, but to illustrate this trope without having anyone say anything would be silly to say the least. This trope does indeed hinge on what characters say, namely it hinges on verbal suggestion or suggestion given through body language, such as moving your finger across your throat.

Oct 15th 2017 at 3:34:50 PM

Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding. I'm aware you need someone saying something to get the point across, that's not the problem — my issue was just that since the picture's too small to make out the words, you can't read what's being said. The illustration needs to be legible to work, but it's not legible — that is the issue.

Looking back at my previous comment, I really should have phrased myself better.

Oct 15th 2017 at 3:55:59 PM

I get it. Thanks for giving your explanation another shot. it looks like my edits didn't help either. I wonder why it isn't working The picture source is nice big and legible but the results after using the media uploader, not so much. If anyone has any suggestions with respect to fixing that or knows something I don't, I'd really appreciate a little help, maybe even a much better illustration.

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