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The Big Bad takes matters into his own hands after many failures.

This work is a proposed Trope, Tropers can vote and offer feedback in the comments section below.
Proposed By:
WiseMan23753 on Jan 8th 2019 at 9:05:42 AM
Last Edited By:
Arivne on Jan 10th 2019 at 10:06:55 PM
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If you want a job done right, do it yourself.

Something that the Evil Overlord List would agree most of all is not to rely on barking orders at your subordinates. Sometimes, they may too stupid or too incompetent to do anything. Or rather that kind of barking intimidates them so much that they can't do anything over the fear of what will happen. Overall, work from your subordinates are way too slow, so the Evil Overlord does things by his own hands instead.

The trope can be used when the Big Bad is above his minions in both power and competence. Though it does bring up the question why he waits until now to do things himself.

This can be a buildup to a Final Boss, if the Big Bad is one. Contrast Non-Action Big Bad and Orcus on His Throne, when the Big Bad remains on his chair and lets all his subordinates do the work for him. Compare It's Personal, which can be a motivation for this trope.


Examples include:

Anime & Manga

  • Full Metal Panic!
    • After the loss of Gauron and Gates, Amaglam takes matters with Mithril more seriously. Their first response is both occupying Merida Island while Leonard, who has been sitting out much of the first few arc, personally trashes the Arbalest and retrieves Kaname, something they continuously failed until now.
  • Found in both Big Bad Wannabe villains in Mobile Suit Gundam SEED:
    • Azrael suffers a mutiny by Nartele, who locks him up in the command bridge during a critical battle with the Archangel. Therefore, he personally operates his flagship's weapons. If it wasn't for Mu La Flaga's intervention, he might have won.
    • Patrick Zala likewise ends up having many soldiers questioning his orders to fire GENESIS at Earth, especially since they already won the battle (and probably the whole war). He ends up shooting a soldier for questioning his orders and operates the controls himself, despite being warned that he will destroy his own forces as a result.
  • Sailor Moon Crystal
    • Queen Beryl, who spent much of her time sitting back in the manga and anime, gets off her throne for once in the middle of the Dark Kingdom arc. She successfully defeats Tuxedo Mask and retrieves him the first time. However, she second time she does so, she's defeated long before the Shitennou do.

Film - Live Action

Video Games

  • Ratchet & Clank
    • In the first game, Qwark and Drek do this as part of their boss fights. The former sends his pet creature the first time, and during his boss fight, he sends out a squadron of fighters to attack Ratchet. After they get destroyed, he says it word for word that if he wants to finish the job to defeatiing Ratchet, he'll have to do it himself. The latter has him personally press the button for the Deplanetizer aimed at Ratchet's planet, additionally armed with a large robot to confront the duo.
    • The third game has Dr. Nefarious, who relies on his minions, including his butler Lawrence (much to his annoyance). When even he is absent in a crucial moment against the duo, Nefarious decides he will just fight them himself.
  • Happens in both the Brotherhood and the Ronin arcs in Saints Row 2. The Brotherhood leader Maero holds back his retribution against the Saints even after they scar him with radioactive tattoo ink, but after they kill his girlfriend and maim his Best Friend, he goes out of his way to destroy them. The Ronin arc, meanwhile, has Kazuo Akuji, the Ronin overboss, fly over from Japan to personally deal with the troubles his American branch is having with the Saints (in a subversion, he does an even worse job of it than his US-based underlings, due to lacking all cultural context).
  • Starcraft II Wings Of Liberty
    • When invading Char, Kerrigan finally has it with relying on her minions and personally goes after the Terrans to retrieve the Xelnaga artifact.

Web Original

  • As part of the Evil Overlord List 101: "I will not order my trusted lieutenant to kill the infant who is destined to overthrow me - I'll do it myself."

Feedback: 15 replies

Jan 8th 2019 at 9:24:33 AM

Why is this limited to villains?

Jan 8th 2019 at 10:55:59 AM

Title is a stock phrase.

Jan 8th 2019 at 8:37:06 PM

^ But we also have Non Action Guy - and cases where NAG gets in action also sounds like a trope in itself (and distinct from this one).

"Villain No Longer Idle" is good, though it could be better.

Jan 9th 2019 at 2:28:28 AM

  • Happens in both the Brotherhood and the Ronin arcs in Saints Row 2. The Brotherhood leader Maero holds back his retribution against the Saints even after they scar him with radioactive tattoo ink, but after they kill his girlfriend and maim his Best Friend, he goes out of his way to destroy them. The Ronin arc, meanwhile, has Kazuo Akuji, the Ronin overboss, fly over from Japan to personally deal with the troubles his American branch is having with the Saints (in a subversion, he does an even worse job of it than his US-based underlings, due to lacking all cultural context).

Jan 9th 2019 at 2:27:38 AM

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Jan 9th 2019 at 2:44:15 AM

Contrast also The Unfought.

  • Mega Man Zero: for most of the the third and fourth game, Dr. Weil, the Big Bad, is just a cyborg scientist with no combat capabilities and relies on his right hand robot (different in each game) to spearhead his plans. In the end of the fourth game, however, after Craft, his henchman, betrayed him and later got killed by Zero, he decides to take the matters of destroying Area Zero in his own hands by taking over Ragnarok, and later, merging with its core, becoming the Final Boss.

Jan 9th 2019 at 11:07:40 AM

  • In the Power Rangers Zeo episode "Mondo's Last Stand", Mondo is frustrated that all his various Monster Of The Week have failed to defeat the Power Rangers, so he decides to personally face them himself in battle, using a sword he sealed away for being too dangerous to use. He ends up being destroyed by the end of the episode, though being a machine he is repaired and rebuilt over several episodes.

Jan 9th 2019 at 11:22:18 AM

Much as I personally approve of the name, it's a Bad Snowclone by definition and would need to change.

Actually, thinking about it, I'm not sure if this is really a trope as-is. "Big Bad who does stuff" isn't really a trope. And "Big Bad who was previously on his throne" isn't so much a trope as an inevitable part of Orcus On His Throne.

Now, maybe I could see "the particular moment where Orcus gets off his throne" as separately tropable, but I would need to be convinced.

Jan 9th 2019 at 11:34:51 AM

^ This

And, as someone else asked previously, why is this villain only?

Jan 9th 2019 at 12:08:55 PM

Yeah. Another thing that could be a trope that I don't think we have is "Badass character that usually waits on the sidelines finally joins the fray." It would basically be a Super Trope to Hes Back, Back In The Saddle, and Awakening The Sleeping Giant.

If we don't have it already, that could be a trope.

Tossing in a bomb to offset the two hats.

Jan 9th 2019 at 1:39:04 PM

Something about the moment where someone takes matters into their own hands. I know that's not gonna fly as a title, I'm not suggesting it, but that's basically what we're talking about, is that right?

Jan 10th 2019 at 6:19:46 AM

^^ Lets Get Dangerous is when the badass "goes to town", showing why they're badass. That's probably the supertrope you want?

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