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2* BrokenBase: Their hardcore punk early albums vs. their later goth rock based "emo" albums. Also, Davey Havok's more feminine vocal style to compensate for his aged vocal cords seems to be the subject for quite ugly debates in Youtube comments. ''Sing the Sorrow'' is still the usual point where the fanbase splits, though it still has quite a few fans (and people who are nostalgic for it), and ''Decemberunderground'' is where the gulf ''really'' widened: depending on who you ask, it's either where they truly found their new sound and made a necessary evolution, or the point where they demonstrated that money was all they cared about and the [=MySpace=] EmoTeen market was their new target demographic.
3* FanCommunityNickname: The Despair Faction
4* HoYay: They love making suggestive jokes during interviews. Davey also tends to be rather publicly affectionate with his male friends compared to most other straight guys.
5* ItsPopularNowItSucks: Their major-label debut coincided with a major change in sound. Overlaps with TheyChangedItNowItSucks below.
6* NightmareFuel: The spoken word hidden track at the end of ''Sing the Sorrow''.
7---> '''CreepyChild:''' It was empty on the edge of town, but we knew everyone floated along the bottom of the river.
8* RefrainFromAssuming: "Prelude 12/21" is not called "Kiss My Eyes and Lay Me to Sleep", or any variation thereof.
9* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Given the fact that their sound from the beginning of their career to the present day has pretty much completely changed (even consecutive albums can sound substantially different,) it's to be expected that a fan of a particular album might not like all or any of the others. See ItsPopularNowItSucks.

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