Line #71 WMG/WinnieThePooh


1	[[WMG: Tiggers are animals in the vein of Heffalumps and Woozles.]]
2	They are purportedly "fierce" and are also a misspelling/ mispronunciation of an animal's name.
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4	[[WMG: The Hundred Acre Wood is capable of changing its geography to fit the fantasies of its inhabitants.]]
5	It is the only possible explanation for what happens in the direct-to-video movie ''Pooh's Grand Adventure: The Search for Christopher Robin''. The end of the movie reveals that all of the frightening things that Pooh and his friends encountered while they were looking for Christopher Robin really weren't that scary at all (the "giant cliff" that they actually fell into was just a few inches high, for example). This would imply that either they were all having the same hallucination or that the forest itself ''changes in response to their expectations''. They were afraid, and so the forest became more frightening. This also explains how their journey out was so much longer than the one back.
6	** So AWizardDidIt? Or alternatively YourMindMakesItReal?
7	*** Or maybe it's just outside [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Springfield]]. Or inside it, as necessary...
8	*** The Hundred Acre Wood changes all the time -- it seems to have a different layout in every installment of the franchise.
9	** It could be a bit of [[Literature/CarpeJugulum gnarly ground]], where the geography corresponds with your emotions.
10	** I'd say the scene in the 2011 film where Piglet is going to Christopher Robin's house to get the jump rope confirms this.
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12	[[WMG: The stuffed animals were given life by [[WesternAnimation/{{Pinocchio}} the Blue Fairy]] ]]
13	Christopher Robin was a very lonely little kid who spent all his time with his stuffed animals, or wandering in the woods located near his house. He desperately wished for friends ''upon a star'', so the Blue Fairy granted his wish by giving life to the stuffed animals... Much of like what happens in {{Literature/The Velveteen Rabbit}}!
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15	[[WMG: Everyone in Winnie the Pooh are examples of common mental disorders.]]
16	Winnie the Pooh characters matched with their respective disorders:
17	* Pooh: Unspecified Eating Disorder (Possible victim of Tourette's).
18	* Piglet: Generalized anxiety disorder.
19	* Owl: Narcissism and Dyslexia.
20	* Eeyore: Clinical depression.
21	* Roo: None, but grew up in the wrong environment.
22	* Tigger: ADHD and Impulsivity.
23	* Rabbit: OCD, I think.
24	* Gopher Subconscious aggression, if Gopher's tendency to think explosions are the answer to everything is any indication.
25	* Christopher Robin: Parental abandonment and at the very least Schizophrenia as he imagines these stuffed animals as having personalities.
26	** Christopher Robin's mother appears quite a few times in The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, so this is not true.
27	** [[http://www.cmaj.ca/content/163/12/1557.full Need proof? Here's proof.]]
28	*** That article reads a lot like satire to me. Like anyone, including fictitious children's characters, can be diagnosed with a disease based on one or two symptoms.
29	** Wouldn't Roo have ADHD and Pooh have ADD? I've never seen Pooh as particularly hyperactive, especially compared to the rest of the cast.
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31	[[WMG: Rabbit [[{{VideoGame/Eversion}} everted]].]]
32	The forest starts becoming more disturbing after Rabbit takes command around the Upside-Down Rock, and goes back to normal in the Eye of the Skull. Both times, Rabbit is showing intense emotion: frustration at Pooh's incompetence at the rock, and terror induced by Christopher Robin's shadow in the cave. Possibly, there are eversion points in these areas, and Rabbit unconsciously uses them.
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34	[[WMG: Christopher Robin are actually different kids that were amalgamated into one entity in the memories of the Hundred Acre Wood.]]
35	The franchise actually happens roughly in real time, each Christopher Robin that we see is ''really'' [[ReplacementGoldfish a different kid]] each coming into the woods to play with all of the immortal [[LivingToy stuffed animal]] inhabitants. The stuffed animals are unaware that humans age and assumed that all of the kids are Christopher Robin (the original kid to come into the woods)... The little kids are all far too polite to correct them.
36	* That explains the constantly changing accents. Darby must be whoever appeared too close to Christopher Robin to be merged into his identity.
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38	[[WMG: Tigger is [[ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes Hobbes's]] father.]]
39	Actually, credit where credit's due and all that, this isn't ''my'' theory. Norwegian author and mythologist Tor Åge Bringsværd (who re-translated the Pooh books to Norwegian back in TheNineties, as the translations from TheFifties and [[TheSeventies Seventies]] were a bit of a mess) claims this in his intro to the Norwegian translation of ''The Essential Calvin and Hobbes,'' but I thought it was a fun enough theory to mention here.
40	* Combined with the below WMG, this implies that not only do Winnie the Pooh and Toy Story share a universe, but so does Calvin and Hobbes!
41	** But then why does Hobbes move around Calvin when the ''Franchise/ToyStory'' toys don't move around people?
42	*** It's revealed in the very first Toy Story movie that toys ''can'' move around people if they choose, it's just that it's "against the rules" for them to do so. Maybe Hobbes just doesn't bother to follow the rules, or somehow considers Calvin an exception to them.
43	*** Also, why do Pooh and his friends move around Christopher Robin?
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45	[[WMG: A possible Happy Ending:]]
46	One year Calvin's parents took him and Hobbes on vacation to England, where they met Christopher Robin and Pooh playing in Hundred Acre Woods, and the four of them, plus Piglet, Owl, Rabbit, Tigger, Kanga, Eyore, and Roo, stumbled into an endless recursion of time, and they've been playing there ever since.
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48	[[WMG: The franchise takes place in the same universe as ''Franchise/ToyStory''.]]
49	This occurred to me while lying in bed and it boggles the mind that my fellow tropers have not made the connection. What if all of the stories/episodes/movies/etc. were "play sessions" ala the opening of ''WesternAnimation/ToyStory3''? Perhaps Christopher Robin, like Bonnie, includes himself in the adventures occasionally and simply ignores the, shall we say, fourth wall of the play to a certain extent to accommodate any "injuries" the toys sustain. This also tidily solves the problem of the wood changing about constantly.
50	* Pooh'sGrandAdventureTheSearchForChristopherRobin therefore, may be Christopher confronting his fears and insecurities about starting at school/a new school/etc. through play. The times when the toys actually interact with CR's home without him are when he's not around.
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52	[[WMG: Kanga and Tigger will [[InterspeciesRomance wind up in a relationship]].]]
53	* She's a single mom. Tigger takes good care of her son. Do the math.
54	** D'awwwww.
55	** Naaaah. That would go totally against the original books, where Tigger is Kanga's ''adopted son'' and ends up living with Kanga and Roo as Roo's "brother." While he lives on his own in the Disney version, the original book relation is sort-of alluded to in ''WesternAnimation/TheTiggerMovie'', when Roo wishes for Tigger to be his big brother, and Tigger at the end of the movie calls Roo "my bestest little brother." The Disney adaptations do take a lot of liberties with the original novels, but they generally stay fairly true to the ''spirit'' of them, and such a major change would completely alter that spirit.
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57	[[WMG: ''Ther'' refers to the male organ.]]
58	This information is, after all, the child's response to his father's question about the supposedly feminine name, and it would certainly explain the author's reluctance to explain further.
59	* Or it's the up to now forgotten (except for Christopher Robin) definite masculine article in English (similar to German, where the article "der" is masculine), which overrules the feminine name.
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61	[[WMG: 'Hunny' is analogous to alcohol.]]
62	Consider Pooh's devastation at learning he has no more of it, and also consider the Heffalumps and Woozles, some of whom are literal PinkElephants!
63	* [[FridgeBrilliance Mead?]]
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65	[[WMG: [[CompanionCube B'loon (from the 2011 movie)]] actually ''is'' sentient. And a bit of a JerkAss.]]
66	B'loon knows ''exactly'' what he's doing, and what he's doing is deliberately messing with everybody. Look how he without effort reduces Tigger to frightened whimpers, keeps Eeyore from enjoying a nice thistle, scares the living daylights out of Piglet, and as his main {{plan}} manages to get all the animals to fall into the pit. Only to fly off for "help," so that he can grab all the credit for himself, become the hero of the day and snatch the prize honey away from the disappointed Pooh. What a jerk.
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68	[[WMG: Owl is the BigBad of the 2011 film.]]
69	Owl's ultimate goal is to find someone to read his memoir to in order to fulfill his self-indulgent needs. He figures that Pooh is the most easily manipulated, so he sees to it that Pooh has no access to honey by way of taking all of Pooh's personal honey in the middle of the night (thus giving Pooh a reason to leave his house at all), stealing Eeyore's tail and making sure that the best tail choices in the contest go to other characters so that THEY would get the pot of honey instead of Pooh, and making up the story about the Backson so that everyone would be out looking for it all day and Pooh would be as hungry as possible by the end of the day. Owl makes the only honey accessible to Pooh the honey at his own house, and offers Pooh honey on the condition that he sit and listen to him read from his autobiography. This all makes Owl a ManipulativeBastard.
70	* I find it amusing that this the ceiling of evil-ness in the Poohniverse.
71	* Owl's ultimate goal is to read his autobiography to someone. That's the real reason he did not leave the hole, if they were down their they would be forced, he underestimated piglet and made sure he had most of the honey in an attempt to force pooh to listen over his table like he would have at the end of the movie had he not found that tail.
72	* Not only that, i think he was also the BigBad of the Grand Adventure! He wrote a map just after reading the note Christopher Robin left, that made Rabbit make others leave a rather OBVIOUS spot, was pretty cheerful while saying that "if some won't return". And notice - ''he wasn't going for Christopher Robin with them''. Suspicious, isn't it?
73	[[WMG: The Backson is a Franchise/MonstersInc Scarer that got suck in the human world.]]
74	Was I the only one who thought he looked like a character form Monsters Inc., maybe he was a top scarer before, who through an accident got locked outside of a closet in England, and decided to roam the 100 Acer Woods to find a way home.
75	* And the forest purified(Friends vs the High Council)him or it happens after [[WesternAnimation/MonstersInc1 the movie.]]
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77	[[WMG: Pooh is a JustForFun/TimeLord]]
78	And his hunny pot is his TARDIS, [[http://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads//2011/05/doctor-pooh-570x785.png?d9c344 and we have proof...]]
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80	[[WMG: Tiggers are a clan.]]
81	Tigger isn't the last of his species, he could just be the last surviving member of a clan known as Tigger...all the other members being dead (probably by the hands of one of it's own) not unlike another [[Manga/{{Naruto}} clan...]]
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83	[[WMG: Tigger in {{Tigger Movie}} is in heat.]]
84	Considering their universe, it probably won't go anywhere, but he's searching for people that look like him, ignores that Roo is very similar to him in hobbies and personality, but isn't actually a "Tigger".
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86	[[WMG: The animals are Neo-Pagans]]
87	Specifically Germanic Paganism, which explains why they attach so much importance to knowing how to spell "Teusday".
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89	[[WMG: Disney will never make another hand-drawn animated film after this film.]]
90	''WesternAnimation/ThePrincessAndTheFrog'' was an experiment to see if hand-drawn animated films, done the traditional way, are still profitable. Sadly, it never gave a clear answer since even though it was very profitable. It had to compete against 3 other blockbuster heavy-weights in theaters, Disney was expecting ''record-breaking'' ticket sales akin to ''WesternAnimation/{{The Lion King\|1994}}'', and it was not released in 3D. ''Winnie The Pooh'' was released 2 years later, and even though it was planned before anyone knew ''Princess'' wouldn't live up to Disney's expectations, ''Winnie'' is only under an hour long, and was done for a fraction of the budget ''Princess'' was. The whole setup felt like a big "screw it let's end in a putter" situation. As of 2012, there are no plans for another hand-drawn animated film from Disney. '''''...think about it.'''''
91	* In 2013, Bob Iger announced there are no plans to make another hand-drawn animated Disney film in the foreseeable future.
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93	[[WMG: Tigger is their version of [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Kamina]].]]
94	The Heffalump and Woozles are standins for the Beastmen, Crud was a manifestation of the [[spoiler: Anti-Spiral]], and the rest of Tigger's friends are analogues of Team Gurren (save they're lazy and don't have any mechas...not so sure about Gopher though.)
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96	[[WMG: The meaning of Ther]]
97	Christopher Robin's father, upon hearing Winnie The Pooh's name, says that he can't be called Winnie, if he is a boy. To which Christopher replies, that's why he added the 'ther'. It's pretty well understood that neither Christopher, nor any of the 100 acre woods' inhabitants are particularly good at spelling. Perhaps the 'ther' then is to Christopher, the same as the "-pher" in his own name, without it what is left is what sounds like Christie. So to Christopher, it is this suffix, '-ther/-pher' that makes an otherwise feminine name masculine.
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99	[[WMG: Christopher Robin told [[PassingTheTorch Darby to take over from him]]]]
100	Think about this for a moment. Christopher Robin knew his time was coming when he couldn't play with Pooh Bear and the others anymore. There was not many friends he could trust, but Darby however, was one of the lucky few he could trust... trust especially with his secret. Eventually, Darby was the new leader of the gang.
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102	[[WMG: The "Backson" isn't actually called that.]]
103	Owl saw the creature seen at the end of the movie and assumed it was dangerous because it looked intimidating. When he read Christopher Robin writing "backson" instead of "back soon", he assumed that the creature was called the Backson. However, that's not what its actual species is.
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105	[[WMG: The Heffalumps aren't changing shape on their own.]]
106	Christopher Robin is just beginning to realize the difference between imagination and reality.
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108	[[WMG: Winnie-The-Pooh Bear is actually a Woozle]]
109	1) Pooh Bears don't exist. 2) Bears eat more then honey, where Woozles apparently only ever eat honey, like Winnie does. 3) Woozles come in all shapes and sizes and colors, so even though Winnie is more bear shaped, he's just a bear shaped Woozle. 4) In "The New Adventures of Winnie The Pooh", Winnie is the only one who wants to befriend Heffalumps and Woozles, but the show shows he has no problem fighting other aggressive enemies like the Horse Bandits. My theory is that Winnie was a Woozle who desperately wanted to eat, so he pretended to be a 'Pooh Bear' and trick his neighbors with simpleness to get honey. However, as time went on, he forget his rouse and now legitimately believes he's a Pooh Bear.
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111	[[WMG: Many of the flashbacks seen in WesternAnimation/PigletsBigMovie are inaccurate.]]
112	The flashbacks are shown from what the characters remember of them. They're not totally accurate. This explains why Tigger appears in the flashback where the gang first met Kanga and Roo, even though it has been shown before that they knew Kanga and Roo first. What is shown is a misremembering on Pooh's part.
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114	[[WMG: The Heffalump Movie takes place after the Christopher Robin movie.]]
115	In the credits, we still see Christopher as a child because the characters see him that way, even though he grew up. What happened was Evelyn, inspired by her husband, got her old plush elephants from her parents' house, and Christopher affectionately called them "Heffalumps." Lumpy was named by Madeline since Evelyn forgot what she named her toys long ago.
116	Anyway, they took the Heffalumps to the magical Hundred Acre Wood where they came to life just like Pooh and his friends (except Rabbit and Owl, who are a sort of good fairy who lived there already). They moved in to "Heffalump Hollow" and Christopher and his family told everyone about them, but they were still scared of Heffalumps except Kanga who thought perhaps these real ones were not so bad, and Roo who didn't know what they were, exactly.

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