Line #77 WMG/RockADoodle


1	[[WMG:The Duke is actually an EldritchAbomination]]
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3	The tornado is his true form, a being personifying the darkness in air.
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5	[[WMG:The ending was part of the kid's dream.]]
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7	[[WMG:The ending was part of the kid's ''dying'' dream.]]
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9	[[WMG:Don Bluth was on crack.]]
10	Seriously.
11	* Seconded. What happened after he went into rehab? WesternAnimation/{{Anastasia}} and WesternAnimation/{{Titan AE}}! Bluth works better with ArtisticStimulation.
12	* In the second stage of addiction, he made WesternAnimation/ThePebbleAndThePenguin.
13	** What part does WesternAnimation/ATrollInCentralPark fall under then?
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15	[[WMG:The Duke faked the Sunrise with his organ.]]
16	Even if he doesn't use it much, it still may have a "sunny setting".
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18	[[WMG:Edmund is a RealityWarper.]]
19	His belief in the story of Chanticleer makes it real, and his fear of the Duke allows him to manifest in the Real World.
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21	The Duke has his ''own'' reality warping abilities, senses Edmund's power, and attempts to neutralize it by transforming him into a helpless kitten. Edmund, however, continues to subconsciously flex his influence over the storybook world.
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23	The Duke becomes an increasingly LargeHam with a WeaksauceWeakness to light and an affinity for {{Villain Song}}s ({{Narm}}ish lyrics provided by Edmund).
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25	Chanticleer becomes an AffectionateParody of Elvis because Edmund's heard his songs, and he strikes it big in the city because that's what Edmund came up with to explain why he hadn't come back to the farm.
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27	Goldie falls in love with Chanticleer despite her earlier anger and jealousy ''because'' Edmund thinks they're in love.
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29	Peepers [[KilledOffForReal died]] in the crash; the [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment nightmare sequence]] immediately following is Edmund rejecting that reality and substituting his own.
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31	Ultimately, the Duke decides to kill him and end the threat ''that'' way; unfortunately, he acted ''after'' Edmund had invoked ThePowerOfFriendship, allowing Patou and the others to pick up where he left off and then [[DisneyDeath bring him back]].
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33	Now, the question remains: did Edmund jump over into the storybook world at the end, or did he ''flex'' his powers and transform the ''real'' farm into the storybook one...?
34	* The Duke seems to hint at this theory being true, IIRC; when Edmund asks how the Duke became real, the Duke simply reminds him of the moment where Edmund touched the illustration of the Duke in the storybook. At the end of the film, all Edmund has to do to hang out with Chanti again is touch the picture of him on the cover.
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36	[[WMG:Edmond died, or was put in a coma, when the tree crashed into his room.]]
37	The rest of the movie is the bizarre afterlife or DyingDream he created for himself.
38	* It's [[AdventuresInComaland what goes through his comatose brain as he's laying on the floor dying]], having suffered severe head trauma. When the credits roll, he's finally dead, explaining the outlandish and nonsensical ending that cuts off abruptly.
39	** So his DisneyDeath near the end where all his friends are gathered around him hoping that he'll wake up could be his brain vaguely registering his RealLife family doing the same thing at that moment when they discover his body...[[FridgeHorror damn]].
40	* It's just his DyingDream. When the duke strangles him, he actually slips from coma to near-dead. When Edmond "wakes up", he comes out of the coma to spend his last few minutes with his mom. His life finally slips away when holding the book, and his DyingDream continues. FridgeHorror, anyone?
41	** Perhaps during this lucid moment before he relapses and dies he interprets everything being back to normal now that he's awake, with him walking around and talking to his mother at home, with the mess from the tree gone. In reality he's laying in a hospital bed with his mother at his side.
42	* Another "comforting" aspect to this theory; the BigLippedAlligatorMoment where Edmond thinks Peepers is dead and he sort of retreats into his own brain. Was this Edmond slipping out of his coma into death for a few seconds? Or perhaps just having a brain seizure while comatose?
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44	[[WMG:The Grand Duke is [[Franchise/HarryPotter Voldemort's]] owl.]]
45	This ''might'' explain how he has magic powers.
46	* Voldemort gave his owl the power to vomit glitter? Wow. He's suddenly about ten times less scary.
47	** It was a beam that would make them sparkle, thus making them less cool and constantly made fun of. Voldemort, essentially, gave his owl the ability to turn them into Literature/{{Twilight}} characters. AFateWorseThanDeath.
48	** Or, more logically, whilst on a rampage of terror, the Grand Duke eats one of the sparkling vampires, or Lucky the Lucky Charms leprechaun. Whilst drinking that glittery blood, it goes down the wrong way, and part of it gets lodged in his lungs or somewhere on the way up to his throat. Ever since then: glitter.
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50	[[WMG:The reason the sun didn't rise...]]
51	* The Duke planned this somehow. He found a way to cancel out Chanticleer's power, which is why he didn't use it until the climax.
52	* It was all a coincidence, and Chant's crow bringing back the sun at the climax was just another coincidence. It couldn't actually rain forever - it had to stop sometime.
53	* There would have been aperfectly logical explanation and story, had the stupid little kid not interferred.
54	* The Sun was mad at the farm animals for taunting and teasing Chanticleer to the point where he left and it decided to punish them by refusing to come out and taking a long nap until Chant came back and hearing his crowing would alert the sun that he was back and that the farm animals had apologized to him.
55	* Chanticleer's crowing was the sun's alarm clock. Once, the sun woke up early, and decided to go back to sleep. She kept sleeping, until the PowerOfRock woke her up.
56	* The commotion made by Chanticleer fighting the other rooster at the beginning was enough to wake the sun up, fooling Chanticleer into thinking that he didn't need to crow so he left and stopped crowing, hence why the sun didn't come up again until he crowed again at the end.
57	* Not this Troper's theory, but one that he read said that the sun rising and setting like that was because of a "spun marble" effect at the time. Chanticleer kept the sun coming up like clockwork, the Earth spinning maybe. So while he didn't raise it again, whichever still had a little momentum built up to move, before rolling back into a neutral position.
58	* There's a [[https://www.amazon.com/Cock-Doodle-Dudley-Bill-Peet/dp/0395657458 children's book]] with a story which this Troper always applied to this movie. The sun doesn't actually NEED a rooster crowing to rise; it just likes that roosters do that. So just like in the book, when Chanticleer stopped crowing altogether, the sun's feelings were hurt, and it decided not to rise out of spite ("If that nice rooster's not gonna crow, then I'm not coming up!"). When Chanticleer crowed again, the sun forgave him and rose.
59	* [[WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic God got bored and wanted to fuck around with the rooster, so He played yo-yo with the sun.]]
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61	[[WMG:The Grand Duke made the movie non-sensical and a flop.]]
62	After battling the heroic Chanticleer, he decided to take the guy down with him. In spite, he went to Don Bluth and gave him the script, utterly changing everything in order to mess up the heroes and ruin Chant's showbiz career.
63	* But why would The Grand Duke want a movie he stars in to flop?
64	** Because he loses in the end?
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66	[[WMG:The movie wasn't a dream...]]
67	When the Duke turns Edmond into a kitten and breathes all over his room, making it into a fully animated backdrop, he's actually transporting Edmond into another dimension where The Duke and Chanticleer live. This explains why the city is actually populated by furries instead of humans. At the end where Edmond is turned back into a human and wakes up in his own world (The part where we believe it was all just a dream), Hunch kills the Duke off screen, making all of his magic wear off and transports Edmond back into the real world. Chanticleer could've had some magic of his own, which allowed Edmond to visit the farm animals for one last time during the last musical number at the end.
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69	[[WMG:There may be a reason why his mom didn't believe Edmund]]
70	Remember that the Grand Duke has his magical breath? Well, what if when Edmund tried to call out for Chanticleer, the Duke, before arriving to Edmund, actually used his breath around the farm and turned them to stone until the sun came out and drained the water? Perhaps this is why Edmund's family never believed him because the Grand Duke probably turned them to stone in anger when he heard Chanticleer's name being called out. But this is just this troper's guess. What do you think?
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72	[[WMG:Don Bluth casted Toby Scott Ganger in the lead because he reminded him of Judith Barsi]]
73	* He was a child actor with a cloyingly cute speech impediment, and Bluth wanted him to carry on her legacy by playing the RidiculouslyCuteCritter in his first movie after her death.
74	** [[TearJerker sniff]]
75	** Actually, it probably wasn't up to Don Bluth who would be Edmond. Chances are it was the studio's decision. Don Bluth is smart enough to not just hire someone based completely on cuteness.
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