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1[[WMG: The stitchpunks have the opposite problem to the Machine.]]
2* That is, while the machine is unable to fell pity and remorse for its actions, the stitchpunks have feelings that allow them to create morals, but they are unable to think and process advanced logic. This explains some of their more questionable actions in the story, such as not waiting for 2's funeral and 8 using the magnet while he should be guarding. Other than a few of the 9, they let emotions and primal urges rule over their actions, rather than reason.
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4[[WMG: ''Nine'' was predicted by Music/TheBeatles]]
5"[[Music/TheWhiteAlbum Number nine... number nine...]] [[MadnessMantra number nine... number nine... number nine...]]"
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7[[WMG: This film is gonna get another title when it hits DVD to pacify the MoralGuardians.]]
8Okay, we have two films released in the same year with homonymic titles. One is an animated feature which can at least pretend to be suitable for kids (even if it is post-apocalyptic), and which has been a hit this fall. The other is this one, a film of a musical based on a Fellini art film that has, as one of its major elements, a LoveDodecahedron. And this film has not had much buzz yet; unless that changes, it's not gonna break any box office records.
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10If they release this film with this title, then there will be at least some parents crying for blood when they find out this isn't the CGI cartoon. Therefore, the distributors for the DVD vs. will have to find another title.
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12* ''[[NightmareFuel Did]] [[TearJerker you]] [[KillAllHumans even]]'' '''[[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids WATCH]]''' ''[[AIIsACrapshoot the]] [[DiesWideOpen damn]] [[BittersweetEnding movie]]?'' Dr. Trope hereby prescribe you a trip to the AnimationAgeGhetto page, '''pronto'''.
13** That's more the fault of ignorant parents really. I saw ''at least'' one ad for 9 that advertised it as "Not your little brother's animated movie". So the MoralGuardians can't say they weren't warned. As for the musical, the ads feature the woman in braziers. So either way the parents are to blame for not paying attention.
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15Spoilers ahead. You have been warned.
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17[[WMG:9 is that song by system of a down]]
18Ever notice that
191 all life is destroyed by robots
202 automatons are fighting robots
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22[[WMG:The Scientist is a descendant of Paracelsus.]]
23This explains why he had the book explaining the transfer of souls to creations.
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25[[WMG: The Scientist was a descendant of [[Franchise/{{Frankenstein}} Victor Frankenstein]].]]
26The Paracelsus documents were merely one chapter in ''[[Film/YoungFrankenstein How I Did It]]''. The Scientist just didn't have enough time to grow nine [[OurHomunculiAreDifferent homunculi]] (or even one) that would be large enough to survive outside of the flask immediately after instilling it with life, and even if he had, it would have risked being susceptible to the poison gas.
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28[[WMG:The rain containing pieces of the souls of the dead stitchpunks instills life.]]
299, 7, 3 and 4 will be able to create a race of stitchpunks using items the rain has touched and the designs of the Scientist.
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31[[WMG:The Fabrication Machine turned its creations against humanity out of anger at the Chancellor's actions.]]
32It was experiencing trauma after being taken away from his "father" and finally decided it had to take revenge not only against the Chancellor, but against the entire race that allowed such a person to become so powerful and corrupt.
33* Makes sense, machines ''did'' save professor while killing everything else more complex than rock.
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35[[WMG:The soul bits in the rain have turned into microbes, which will restart biological life.]]
36That's sure what they ''look'' like.
37* How is that a WMG? They explicitly say so in the DVD commentary.
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39
40[[WMG: 1 symbolizes the pope]]
41He's a cranky old man. His hat looks like the pope's hat. He has absolutist views and harsh morality. He demands total subservience from his followers. He even sets up shop in a cathedral, come on people! The whole thing can be viewed as a religious allegory, with all the characters symbolizing different roles and denominations.
42* 1 symbolizes authority in general.
43
44[[WMG: the remaining Stitchpunks repopulate the world...with other stitchpunks]]
45This is what 9 was meant for, to create more of his kind, to reproduce. We see this symbolically in his phallic zipper(even more so in the first scene where it's pulled down), and in the fact that he is the one chosen by 7, the only female. At the end of the movie, they're left to be the 'father' and 'mother' of a new humanity. 3 and 4 survived because they're the only two who have the knowledge to master the stitchpunk creating techniques of their creator. They make it practically possible.
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47[[WMG:The Fabrication Machine is an alternate universe [[VideoGame/{{Portal}} GLaDOS]].]]
48When we see the machine after it has been made, it looks a ''lot'' like the modules that make up [=GLaDOS=]. Or it could alternately be [[Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey HAL]] or [[WesternAnimation/WallE AUTO]]. Mainly, it's that they're all (semi)sentient machines created by man to do good, but become evil. Also, they all share the whole "one eye that glows red" thing.
49* This may be just my lack of attention to detail, but [=GLaDOS=] has a glowing red eye?
50** And a blue one, and a yellow one, and a green one (although they all fell off)
51* Lets not forget that that particular AI hung from the ceiling and swung back and forth, and used machinegun-toting robots and gas to attack humans. Which one am I talking about?
52
53[[WMG:The Fabrication Machine has a very hungry soul...the soul of [[ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths MANDRAKK!]]]]
54* Or of [[WesternAnimation/DextersLaboratory Mandark]]?
55
56[[WMG:Going with the above, the entire film is an AU of ''WesternAnimation/WallE''.]]
57The creation of robotics goes much earlier than planned. The chancellor was actually the CEO of Buy n Large. 9, 7, and 5 are the counterparts of WALL•E, EVE, and M-O. Also, ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' replaces ''Film/HelloDolly'' as the main character's superficial attachment to humanity.
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59[[WMG: Each Puppet is a Significant Part of the Scientist's identity]]
60He did not, or was unable to, plan for each of the personalities of the puppets, but they each embody a part of him, starting with how he self identifies: One is a stubborn old man, but a leader, and Two is a brilliant inventor, but still an old man. Three and Four embody the part of him that want to gain knowledge and pass it on - he knew that Knowledge is a lonely path, so he made two of them so they wouldn't be lonely. Five is farther from the Scientist's own identity - someone who trusts and works with people.
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62However, as the Scientist kept making puppets, he had less and less of himself to give. Six, the imagination of every good inventor, can barely interact with others. Seven embodies aspects that the Scientist didn't even know he had - namely, Female and Badass. And Eight is, as Terry Pratchett would put it, the part of the brain that's still a monkey - subservient, strong, focusing on primal urges. That's why the Scientist waited a long time before making Nine - he wanted to make one more puppet that would be worth it, that he could give everything to. And thus, Nine is also the one thing that the Scientist always wanted to be, but never thought he could - a Hero.
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64* Alternatively, the personalities are related to whatever part of the Scientist own personality was most prominent at a time. One is who he was after realizing just what had been done with his Machine: a bitter man, who feels old and used, who thinks that he could have done a lot better. This is why he is such a stubborn leader, and so intent on forgetting all that came before.
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66A long time passed between One and Two, as suggested by their designs. Two represents that childlike curiosity that he was re-experiencing in the creating of the Stitchpunks. Two wants to know and to build, but doesn't remember that curiosity killed the cat. Then came Three and Four.
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68[[WMG:9 is a prequel to ''WesternAnimation/WallE'']]
69The rainstorms at the end of the film carried over to the storms seen in ''WALL•E'', and allowed the plant to grow.
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71[[WMG:The apocalyptic world is not the entire world- only America.]]
72Meanwhile, the rest of the world is wondering why their American friends haven't called in the last few months.
73* Actually, untrue. The Scientist's facebook page states that entire nations have crumbled and the machines can "travel across expansive oceans." It is very likely that the majority of the planet, or at least a continent or two, has been affected.
74** Perhaps other nations have their own forms of carrying on the human legacy, maybe even their own set of stitchpunks.
75* But the movie wasn't even set in America in the first place. It's clearly a post-UsefulNotes/WorldWarI German town the movie takes place in.
76* I've got to agree that it's in Germany. You can clearly see 'VORSICHT' ('careful') on a sign outside the tunnel.
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78[[WMG:The war between men and machines ended with either side killing each other off.]]
79The scientist was the last man alive during the war, and was possibly spared by the machines due to him being a sort of "father" figure according to the Fabrication Machine. Once the scientist got close enough to it, he tore out the talisman and took it back to his lab to finish creating the 9- being the last one alive he wanted to ensure that humanity's legacy wouldn't die with him.
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81[[WMG:7, [[TheSmurfettePrinciple the only girl in the stitchpunk team]], is the feminine part of the scientist's soul]]
82Every man has a tiny part of womanhood within him. Whether he [[StupidSexyFlanders admits it]] or [[MenDontCry not]] depends on how homophobic he is.
83* Technically that would be "gynophobic".
84* The only reason we find 7 "female" is her voice, and the scene with 9 getting a voicebox shows that the stichpunks take their voiceboxes where and when they can. If 7 found a GI Joe instead of a Barbie, we'd all be calling 7 "him".
85** 9's voicebox came from a babydoll. The fact that he sounds like a boy and can say things besides "Mama" and "Feed me" means that voiceboxes only give the dolls the power to speak, and don't actually affect what they sound like. Also, 2 seems surprised that 9 can't speak at first, which implies that the other dolls had their voices built-in. The Scientist probably died before 9 was finished.
86** With how closely the voicebox is attached to the talisman cord plug thingy, that can't be far off.
87*** But 7 also wears earrings and seems generally motherly towards 3 and 4. That, and her voice, make her seem genuinely female. In fact, since it's implied that she and 1, the authoritarian, had a fallout, this troper was surprised it wasn't at least implied that 1 might have represented the mysogynist part of the scientist's mind mentioned above.
88jossed word of god say the twins are female proven here http://nine.wikia.com/wiki/3_%26_4
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90
91[[WMG:The stitchpunks were '''supposed''' to be assimilated into the Fabrication Machine.]]
92The scientist, horrified that the Machine had intelligence but not a conscience, intended to pour his soul into his creation to give it true life; unfortunately, by the time he had discovered how to do so, the war was already reaching its climax. After tearing his soul and pouring it into the stitchpunks to become immune the life-killing gas, he [[GambitRoulette meant for them to survive the wasteland long enough to be "captured" and "eaten" by the Machine, thus granting it its creator's sapience and allowing the Fabrication Machine to rebuild society.]] With this thinking in mind, [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation 9 suddenly becomes just as misguided as 1]]: by trying to "free" the others, 9 is robbing the world of its intended rebirth and reconstruction, barring [[AssPull a rain of stitchpunk soul bacteria]]. Is there a trope for [[DarkIsNotEvil Technology Is Not Evil]]?
93* [[@/RTaco This troper]] actually thought this might be the case around the part where 5 got drained.
94** That occurred to me too, but look again at the flashback. The socket is where the talisman was placed to animate it in the first place. It's a lot fancier than his later setup for obvious reasons.
95* Why else would the Machine HAVE an input for the Talisman?
96** "[[WesternAnimation/TheEmperorsNewGroove Why do we even have that input?]]"
97* Maybe the scientist[[XanatosGamit planned out a win/win situation]] - if the fabricator absorbed the stitchpunks, it would gain a soul and, in time, rebuild civilization. Or, if the stitchpunks won, they would bring back life to the planet, eventually using the new reserves of soul energy to reproduce.
98* This is very well possible. [[WordOfGod Shane Acker has said]] in [[http://www.fpsmagazine.com/feature/050929acker-5.php an interview]] that the villain has motivation, and for that the audience would feel just as much sympathy for him as the protagonist.
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100[[WMG:There will be a ''Fanfic/MyImmortal'' like fanfic staring a OriginalCharacter ParodySue named "0".]]
101[[strike:You see, who could resist? Hell, if any parody fic writers are reading this, the guess just might even come true.]]
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103U C, 0 (clled 0 becuz 0 iz moar goffik thin 10) has da powars 2 brng teh kiled stich punks beck 2 liv (cuz [[spoiler:1, 2, 5, 6 n' 8 (LOL giddit leik WesternAnimation/EdEddNEddy) dieing]] is rully ghey), and they haff 2 fit with da stich punk kiling mashene!
104** [[MemeticMutation IM IN UR FILM, WRITIN]] [[ParodySue PARODY SUEZ]]
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106[[folder:]]
107You see, 0 (called 0 because 0 is more gothic than 10) has the powers to bring the killed stitchpunks back to life (because [[spoiler:1, 2, 5, 6 n' 8 (Ha! Get it? Like ''WesternAnimation/EdEddNEddy'') dying]] is really pathetic), and they have to fight with "the stitchpunk-killing machine"! Wow. That sounds... odd... when saying it spelled correctly.]]
108[[/folder]]
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110* Whereas one could imagine HP's stereotypically "Gothic" fanbase, one could imagine the 9 fandom having some kind of stereotypical steam/cyberpunk fanbase (I wouldn't know for sure in either case), using gratuitous "refined" and at times overly complex language, which could be parodied just the same.
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112''Greetings and salutations, the moniker I go by is infinimilleniumillion (infinity sign with a squiggle through it, to the tenth power); I am a 2.5 in. tall automaton structured mainly from a silken (but durable) fibre, utilizing the latest in clockwork machinery and electrical wizardry for my golden-molded hands and high-definition-camera eyes respectively. My body is inhabited by the soul of an ace pilot who was nonetheless skilled in all the fine arts and cultural mores. I have allied myself with a group of similar, if cruder beings, each taking on a number from 1 to 9 where we have survived within a virtual wasteland together for 7 years (of my 17 year existence within this form). Whilst making my home amongst them, I crafted for myself a pair of knickers and jack-boots out of the human habit of keeping myself covered which I retained even in this life. I also sewed together a black vest and a pair of black finger-lacking gloves to cover the customized zipper adorning my torso and most of my golden hands respectively, as well as manufacturing a miniature pair of flight-goggles I skillfully molded from rubble in case of successes with the aerodynamic technology I worked daily on creating. One day within our compound whilst a cool breeze blew nuclear fallout throughout the air in a morbidly beautiful way, I passed by no. 7.''
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114"Hello." ''she said.''
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116"Pleasant seeing you today." ''I responded.''
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118''Though her cheeks were clothen, I could notice the slightest red tinge of a blush as the impatient no. 2 called me back to my work.''
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120...
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122"You adulterous heathens would be wise to cover your respective shames at this instant!" - ''I turned to see that the voice came from none other than no. 1!''
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124[[WMG: In [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IQcMeNh7Hc the original short]], the monster was a good guy.]]
125Its soultaking device was meant to bring the 9 to the site of a ritual for which the stitchpunks were originally made. 9, possibly along with 5 and the others, was "programmed" to know how to do the ritual, but not what it meant, and left it as a sign of respect. When [[spoiler: 5's spirit]] nodded back at 9, it wasn't "you did good, kid", it was "everything's going to be okay" (since the stitchpunks didn't understand their purpose until they were together in the machine).
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127[[WMG: Had the fabrication machine ate all the stitchpunks souls...]]
128He'd become the scientist again, [[CameBackWrong but in a corrupted]] [[CyberneticsEatYourSoul metal body]], one that [[TheVoiceless can't talk]]... [[AndIMustScream or scream]]... [[note]]I just did this one because the above two made me cry on the inside.[[/note]]
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130[[WMG: The monster in the original short was another 9th.]]
131Or, rather, a 10th. A soul fragment, anyway. It was the scientist's aggression, and the last fragment. Unlike the other sackdolls, it took off its sack (or put pieces of armor around it) and added pieces, or even never had a sack added in the first place since the scientist died (or was killed, I'm going to go with "died" since it's less depressing) before he could add the sackskin.
132* In other words, Film/EdwardScissorhands, but less peaceable and more soul-sucky.
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134[[WMG: The machine is "0" ]]
135When the scientist gave the brain life, he gave it a bit of his soul, just like his other 9 creations. The only problem was, he gave it plenty of his intellect, but not enough of his personality. It was corrupted by war and turned against it's own soldiers in an attempt at revenge for taking it away from the scientist. It found the scientist and planned to reunite them, but the scientist knew that 0 couldn't turn back from it's path of destruction now and deactivated it and took back the talisman. The machines continued fighting without it, and the scientist built the 9 stitchpunks in order to finally end the war when humanity was gone. It explains why the machine shows some emotion despite not having a "soul" in the movie, it does have a soul, just a corrupted one.
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137[[WMG: The Scientist had DID.]]
138The Stitchpunks are all his different egos. Would also explain the varying ages (1 and 2 are old men, 3 and 4 are children, everyone else is a younger adult) and 7 being a female.
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140[[WMG: The Fabrication Machine had no personality to begin with.]]
141It was just a piece of machinery designed to fullfil a purpose: make weapons. When the Scientist (who actually knew how the thing worked) was removed from supervising its progress, the idiots assigned to it were instructed by the Chancellor to either give it an upgrade or turn its directive more toward war - and in doing so they accidently altered the programming so that [[OmnicidalManiac it considered all living things a target]]. Therefore, it set about efficiently fullfilling its task. The Scientist knew to hide from it, because if it had found him, it wouldn't have "recognized him" or shown him any special mercy as a father.
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143Knowing everything was going to die, the Scientist created the stitchpunks to continue the culture and emotions of humanity once the poison gas hit. 1, 7, and 8 were supposed to protect group until the last of the machines had stopped functioning, 3 and 4 were supposed to retain the culture and knowledge necessary to restart a civilization, and 2 and 5 were supposed to physically build that civilization. 9, having a little of each in him, was supposed to be a general helper. Since he was the last created, he was entrusted with the talisman in case any of the other stitchpunks had been already caught and had their souls sucked out. It was never intended to be put BACK into the Fabrication Machine once the machine had gone offline. Once the stitchpunks had the beginnings of civilization preserved, they would live out their lives and eventually run down. Their life force would return to the earth via the soil/water/whatever covered their bodies when they ran down, and restart evolution with cells and such. Eventually, something would evolve that was intelligent enough to understand the preserved scraps of humanity, and civilization would get a little jump-start and continue from there.
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145[[WMG: 3 and 4 share a memory bank.]]
1463 is primarily Input, 4 is primarily Output (the order in which they were made was probably because it might be possible for someone to bring the information out of a storage for which no output has been made, but you can't extract information that isn't there in the first place. Which is which in the guess was based on information given in the movie, not based on this idea.) They may be SingleMindedTwins, but since they are 3 and 4 (rather than 4 and 4) and have differing... habits, I figure they have different processing units (then again, they could act different like how the eyes of a human act different from the mouth, but I still go with my impression that all they share is a memory bank, not a processor, and ''especially'' not a soul shard).
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148[[WMG: The world of 9 is all in the Scientist's head.]]
149The war actually ended long ago with the Fabrication Machine's destruction, but the Scientist, having given up on machinery and moving to chemistry, is still emotionally traumatized by the experience, almost to the point of going insane, so a small part of his mind, which is represented by the Scientist, took the Scientist's personality traits, made them into the Stitchpunks, and made them go off on their own to defeat the negative memories and nightmares that the war produced, with 9 representing the most positive trait.
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151[[WMG: The Stitchpunks represent the personalities of close friends and family of the Scientist.]]
152** 1 represents the Chancellor, since 1 acts as a leader, albeit a not so good one, and although 9 reactivated the Fabrication Machine, the Chancellor was the one who had it built in his arrogance, and blamed the Scientist for it turning on humanity, and 1 is the most responsible for the internal conflict that occurs within the Stitchpunks, mostly with 9 and 7.
153** 2 represents the Scientist's parents, as they taught the Scientist growing up, and 2 acts as a temporary mentor figure towards 9, and is overall very kind towards him. It was likely they were very old when they had him, as 2 is mentioned to be the oldest of the Stitchpunks. When the war first broke out, they were probably the Fabrication Machine's first victims. In the short film however, this could apply to 5.
154** 3 and 4 represent the Scientist's two children, as they are said to be twins, and the historian part is that the Scientist taught them almost everything his parents taught him, and they were respectively 3 and 4 when the war broke out. They were capable of speech, but preferred not to, since the Scientist taught them that actions speak louder than words.
155** 5 represents the Scientist's doctor, an inventor who spent most of his free time around the Scientist hanging out with him whenever he felt like it, almost like a best friend to him, but was blind in one eye, yet didn't mind it. 9 spends most of the film around 5, who acts as a best friend role for 9, and also has one eye. The doctor part is self-explanatory.
156** 6 represents a friend of the Scientist who was an aspiring artist that was mentally unstable, and spent most of his time trying to draw masterpieces that has a meaning to them, but was plagued by nightmares that led to his instability, and the war made it all worse, completely dashing his dream.
157** 7 represents the Scientist's wife, who was a tomboyish friend of the Scientist growing up, althought she wasn't a Tsundere. The two of them later fell in love, and married. His wife was also a world championship boxer who went on to compete in the Olympics, which explains 7's fighter nature, and was the most close to the Scientist, and defended him from the Chancellor during the war with a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech aimed at the Chancellor.
158** 8 represents the Scientist's wife's brother, who was also a sporty man, and was rather on good terms with the Scientist, but didn't trust him internally, and threatened the Scientist with brutalization if he didn't treat his sister right. When she found out, she scolded him for it, and threatened him if he didn't leave the Scientist alone. He was also a world championship wrestler who also competed in the Olympics with his sister, and gave the two his blessing at their wedding, since the Scientist had earned his trust by cheering the two of them on, and stood by his sister during the war, in the hope that it would make up for not being there for the Scientist when the Chancellor blamed him.
159** And last but not least, 9 represents the Scientist himself, as a person who was driven by questions growing up, and remained fearless most of his life, and was remarkably intelligent, since he was the one who made the Fabrication Machine when it was called the B.R.A.I.N, and constantly confronted the Chancellor before the war broke out, earning himself a enemy, like most of 9's interactions with 1. 9 is also the least flawed of the Stitchpunks, as the positive traits of the Scientist's personality. The Scientist placed him with the burden of restoring life to the planet, as the Scientist felt incredibly guilty for the Fabrication Machine's creation, and kitted the Stitchpunk souls with eukaryotic and prokaryotic cells in order to recreate life.
160[[WMG: The Scientist's Legacy contained, not just a placard that said "hope", but a hermetic seal.]]
161...within the box, though you can't see it, are a vast number of spores and cultures that would be released once the box was opened, in hopes that the gas would have dissipated by then. This is why 9 took so long to wake up (long enough for the scientist's body to have withered to an emaciated, grey mummy without microorganisms to help break it down, and long enough for 1-7 and probably eight to have been there for "years without [9]", in the words of 1 in a separate deleted scene). The Scientist didn't know that the soul rain would spawn viable microorganisms, and this was "The Last" "Hope" for the future of living things, without relying on pure chance to start up another abiogenesis.
162
163[[WMG: The scientist programmed the Fabrication Machine, before he made the sackdolls but after he knew it would be taken away...]]
164In order to give it instructions to "once you stop receiving others' orders to build machines, create something to find this talisman and plug it into you, at any cost. you'll know what to do then". Whether he had the foresight to add, "...once you stop being given orders" or not and whether it involved AmbiguousSyntax would make it possible that this was what made the machine turn on alt!Germany, rather than the Chancellor's idiocy or the Fabrication Machine acting out at the people who took it from its parent.
165
166[[WMG: Making 9 didn't kill the scientist.]]
167He just had a heart attack from the stress, or bumped up the timing of 9's ensoulment because the machines had just arrived and were using the gas (that's why he hadn't noticeably decayed, and was shrivelled instead of decayed). Souls with pieces torn off can [[Literature/TheDresdenFiles regenerate]], and the scientist would have survived the process and possibly been able to make more sackdolls if he'd been given time to recover.
168* Only reading about the idea in a fanfic, maybe the gas finally made way to him, and he was prepared for the idea he wouldn't last after 9's creation.
169
170[[WMG: 9 was curiosity.]]
171[[GoneHorriblyRight Bad idea]].
172
173[[WMG: The timeline splits between the short and the film based on which version of the amulet the Scientist uses.]]
174The one in the short was a failsafe, it could absorb the soul shards from the sackdolls and store them until all 9 pieces could be placed in the Fabrication Machine, via the second half of the talisman. This way, the Fabrication Machine wouldn't have to be awake and have the sackdolls brought to it, the Hunter could just plug in the soul as soon as it got all the pieces regardless of the Machine's status (as long as it wasn't destroyed). However, with the extra time spent in making the advanced (but more junky-looking) talisman, he had to speed up production of the sackdolls, make them all pretty uniform. The Hunter machine was based on the same prototype, but had rebuilt itself from the longer time it required to take down each of the sackdolls (since it didn't need to take them alive, it actually succeeded, at least partly). Five developed a more mentor-ly role by the time 9 arrived because 2 and 1 were already dead, and decided not to fix 9's voice box (if it was broken in the first place, or he even had one) because that was one of the ways the catbeast tracked them. Different way for the talisman to work, no fabrication machine's reawakening, and no machines aside form the catbeast. Everything stems from the Scientist taking different amounts of time to build a talisman that worked slightly differently.
175
176[[WMG:The stitchpunks are elements of civilization.]]
177This does not contradict the idea that they are fragments of souls (after all human society is the product of humans):
178# is Government.
179# is Industry.
180# is Academia.
181# is Education.
182# is Exploration.
183# is Religion.
184# is The Military.
185# is Law Enforcement.
186# is humanity itself, the element that makes the others more than just institutions.
187
188[[WMG: The world of 9 is the same one described in the song "99 Red Balloons".]]
189You and I in a little toy shop/
190buy a bag of balloons with the money we've got/
191Set them free at the break of dawn/
192'Til one by one, they were gone/
193Back at base, bugs in the software/
194Flash the message, "Something's out there"/
195Floating in the summer sky/
19699 red balloons go by./
197
19899 red balloons floating in the summer sky/
199Panic bells, it's red alert/
200There's something here from somewhere else/
201The war machine springs to life/
202Opens up one eager eye/
203Focusing it on the sky/
204Where 99 red balloons go by./
205
20699 Decision Street, 99 ministers meet/
207To worry, worry, super-scurry/
208Call the troops out in a hurry/
209This is what we've waited for/
210This is it boys, this is war/
211The president is on the line/
212As 99 red balloons go by./
213
21499 Knights of the air/
215ride super-high-tech jet fighters/
216Everyone's a Superhero/
217Everyone's a Captain Kirk/
218With orders to identify/
219To clarify and classify/
220Scramble in the summer sky/
221As 99 red balloons go by./
222
22399 dreams I have had/
224In every one a red balloon/
225It's all over and I'm standin' pretty/
226In this dust that was a city/
227If I could find a souvenier/
228Just to prove the world was here.../
229And here is a red balloon/
230I think of you and let it go/
231
232[[WMG: 9 is a prequel to Bionicle]].
233The surviving sackdolls eventually grew in power, upgraded their forms, and became the Great Beings. The human souls became protodermis, and the Matoran/Agori are more advanced versions of the stitchpunk design.
234* You know what? This actually makes sense!
235
236[[WMG: There are more Stitchpunks out there, alive.]]
237Over the course of the film, we only see ''one'' city in ''one'' country. It's highly unlikely that only ''one'' person ever had the idea of making, basically "golems," and infusing them with a human soul. Therefore, in some other cities, some other countries out there, there has to be more Stitchpunks, maybe different in design, but there IS more of them. Because come on, it would really suck if the only living things in the whole entire ''world'' were 9, 7, and the twins.
238** To add on, the twins found a book (or at least a portion of one) on the alchemy the scientist used to make them all. He can't be the only one who at least tried it out.
239
240[[WMG: The stitchpunks have very short lifespans.]]
241The film is clearly set ''very'' soon after the war ended: there's no rust on any of the weapons and human bodies haven't started decomposing yet. But, the stitchpunks have been around long enough for 7 to have gotten sick of 1's authority and left and for 2 to be forced out because he was 'too old'. Since Terry Pratchett influences are all over the film it's safe enough (in WMG) to assume that there could be the whole 'short lived things see time go slower' thing going on. Thus, the stitchpunks only live for a couple of years each at the most.
242* At least the first five (and probably the first seven or even all eight) were around while the humans were still warring. I did always assume that the stitchpunks observed time differently from humans, but that would more likely be because they didn't have fifteen or twenty years to grow to maturity and were sprung fully formed from the Paracelsus Machine itself. To them as of two years of age for the older ones, two years is a lifetime, and half a year difference in age is a quarter of a lifetime dofference. Their perception of time being different the way a six-year-old's perception is different from a 12-year-old, rather than how a mayfly would percieve time differently from [[WeAreAsMayflies a High Elf]]. And just out of curiosity, which influences are you referencing?
243* Actually, if the stitchpunks properly maintained their systems, they might have the capability to live a very long time, perhaps over a thousand years.
244* Plus, nothing is decomposing because all of the organisms that would usually break stuff down got killed with the poison gas. So it could have been a fairly long time between when, say, 8 was made & when 9 was made. They don't age, so it would be hard to tell.
245* {{Jossed}}: WordOfGod says the film takes place about fifty years after the war. Judging by how limber and youthful many of them still are, it seems stitchpunks can go for at ''least'' the same amount of time as humans, if not even longer.
246
247[[WMG: ''9'' takes place in a German-occupied European country rather than Germany itself.]]
248In that timeline, one of the differences made to the Industrial Revolution (that the Industrial Revolution was different and more stuff happened is confirmed by WordOfGod) is that German engineering became awesome much earlier and in a big way. Alt-WWI or a different large war may have resulted in Germany gaining control over neighboring areas (such as the Austro-Hungarian region) and other European powers (such as France and parts or all of Great Britain), or even as a result of a techno-cultural revolution such as how English is the de facto international language today. Thus, one may see a sign reading "Vorsicht" in London, or travel down Champselyseeßtraße.
249
250
251[[WMG:The "microbes" seen in the rain that falls from the souls of the stitchpunks are actually midichlorians.]]
252* Hope you're right
253
254[[WMG: The Scientist is a Time Lord.]]
255He has a title, being simply referred to as The Scientist, and every Time Lord has a title, such as The Doctor. Each of the stitchpunks are parts of his soul, therefore his different lives. And the Source is his sonic-screwdriver!... or something.
256
257[[WMG: The Source talisman is actually a magical artifact from the Middle Ages, or even earlier.]]
258Think about it - in that book the stitchpunks found, which must have been pretty old due to it being written in Latin, it had the exact same symbols that are on the Source. And alchemy was popular in the Middle Ages. Now for the theory about it being magic - 9 didn't wake up for about 50 years, right? You'd think that the Source talisman would have dust on it when 9 found it, after being untouched for all that time. But nope, when 9 finds it it's still all shiny and new-looking.
259
260[[WMG:''9'' and ''WesternAnimation/WallE'' take place in the same universe, a few centuries apart.]]
261Aside from the fact that ''9'' is animated mostly in drab colors and ''WALL•E'' is in Pixar technocolor, the situation on Earth in these two films looks ''very'' similar.
262* The Chancellor and the [=BnL=] CEO produced very similar news blurbs, though those belonging to the former are a more militaristic.
263* Though ''WALL•E'' states that the humans left earth because they had polluted it, the CEO does put on a gas mask just before leaving during the secret message--the life on earth in 9 was also killed with gas.
264* And, most damningly, [[http://scienceblogs.com/sciencepunk/upload/2009/06/first_look_at_the_machines_of/fabmachine_tex_head_s.png the Fab machine]] and [[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xdN0QQwsP1A/SzBP7k7WWaI/AAAAAAAAEW0/NdxMipWomn8/s400/340023-walle_auto_large.png AUTO]] look a ''hell'' of a lot alike, perhaps implying that they both have their genesis in the same technology. From what we've seen of B&L's mass-producing business standards, something like the Fabrication Machine would probably be immensely valuable.
265* If B&L is like UsefulNotes/{{Walmart}} and produces the bulk of its products in less developed nations, that might help to explain the SchizoTech if the movies are compared side by side.
266
267[[WMG: 1 was trying to set fire to the factory too soon to [[SomeoneHasToDie deliberately kill 9 and 7]].]]
268Of course if they waited too long, they'd all likely get busted, depending. But hey, the only two rebelling against him are in there. Why not just get rid of both before 7 runs off again or 9 makes another big mistake.
269
270[[WMG: Each stitchpunk is one of the points on UsefulNotes/TheEnneagram.]]
271According to the system, in general...
272* [[ObstructiveBureaucrat 1]]s are strict, assertive, and very set on right versus wrong/knowing what's best and hold good intentions but can become zealous {{Knight Templar}}s.
273* [[TeamDad 2]]s are warm, affectionate, generous, prone to putting others before themselves, and would be the type most likely to greet a lone stranger in an apocalyptic wasteland with "Wait - I'm a friend!"
274* 3s are ambitious and attracted to beautiful/glamourous/prestigious things.
275* 4s are philosophical and romantic/artistic. 3 and 4 are of course a little tougher to call anything on, but perhaps some sort of link could be made out of the fact that they were researching human culture and history hunting understanding of the past.
276* [[{{Adorkable}} 5]]s are thoughtful and analytical but dislike getting wrapped up in things and the less well-adjusted ones might "think too much" and develop overly cautious, neurotic, shy, and awkward tendencies, though as a result of that can get very attached to the friends they do make.
277* [[WaifProphet 6]]s are anxious and potentially escapist and childish but highly dedicated and woven into their groups.
278* 7s are daring, free-spirited, fun, enthusiastic, productive when motivated, and possibly reckless.
279* [[BattleButler 8]]s are most likely to be TheBigGuy out of the types and may throw their weights around.
280* [[MessianicArchetype 9]]s are diplomatic, soft-spoken, patient, easygoing, and at least try to play the role of TheHeart.
281
282There are also bonuses in predicted dynamics between types - 1s and 2s may be at odds with each other as 1s tend to be rigid and harsh where 2s are decidedly not; 5s and 2s can make for the best of friends as 5s tend to be considered as uncomfortable opening up to others; 7s and 9s may be endeared to each other on basis that both are generally positive and balance each other with the fact that [[ActionGirl 7]]s are straightforward and go-getters while [[NonActionGuy 9]]s are more laid-back and peaceful; etc.
283
284The stitchpunks are all the same person, but anyone has some mix of traits associated with each type. That 1, 2, and 9 were the most influential members of the group could suggest that the Scientist's type and wing were out of those three. Looking at what is actually known about him, he was once a toymaker (putting smiles on kids' faces - something a 2 or 9 might enjoy?), obviously created the [[GadgeteerGenius B.R.A.I.N.]] for the sake of technological advancement and enriching humanity (1?), and was so mortified at the war that he blamed himself for it and killed himself to split his soul into the stitchpunks to atone, keep life going, and make whatever amends possible (any of the three?).
285
286[[WMG:9 is a grown-up Sackboy from ''VideoGame/LittleBigPlanet''.]]
287[[http://www.ps3attitude.com/new/2009/09/why-shane-ackers-9-is-littlebigplanet-the-movie/ This article by Majiesto on ps3attitude.com]] explains similarities between ''9'' and ''LBP'' that go deeper than the skin and the zipper. "Throughout the film, the stitchpunks are hounded by a cat-like beast with a skull for a head, a skull that looks very similar to that of Skulldozer from the Wedding level. [...] If you watch the trailer [of ''9''] closely, you can see bits and pieces of what we would call platforming. You’ll see 9 duck, jump, and scurry over moving conveyor belts all the while machinery is crashing down upon him. [...] The stitchpunks are creative little creatures, using whatever stuff they have lying around to create inventions, weapons, and entire simple machines. They can turn nothing into something, just as we do with 'My Moon.'"
288
289[[WMG: The world was only mostly dead.]]
290Waterbears. Those things are pretty freaking hard to kill. Sure, there were the microorganisms in the rain at the end, but bacteria are also hard to kill. If you can drop off a waterbear in subzero climates and it can just wait, why is some gas gonna stop them? And the world will someday be ruled by giant, sentient waterbears.
291
292[[WMG: WalkingTheEarth, the stitchpunks come across a series of underground bunkers.]]
293They enter and find strange technology, including several odd jar-like contraptions, rune circles, and a sort of ... computing device. [[{{Webcomic/Homestuck}} 9 just fools around with the cans produced by random keymashing, but 7 knows her way around a keyboard, and begins communicating with that rather energetic human girl she sees on the screen ...]]
294
295[[WMG: A chronology exists between ''WesternAnimation/{{Nine}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Machinarium}}'', and ''WesternAnimation/{{Robots}}''.]]
296* ''9'' is where it begins, ''Machinarium'' is the evolution of sentient robots that live in a still-battered world filled with human garbage and their own. ''WesternAnimation/{{Robots}}'' takes place centuries later, where the planet's been cleaned up and everyone's living peacefully... or so it seems.
297
298[[WMG: 7 once had a father-daughter relationship with 1 and 2.]]
299* I'm betting that she once looked up to them as father figures. She was even able to keep that kind relationship with 2. However, after seeing how 1 abandoned 5 when he had fallen, and how he forced them to stay in the cathedral, she grew more distant and bitter toward him, until finally she left. When she learns [[spoiler:that HE was the one who caused the death of 2, she's even more pissed at him, and it hurts her all the more because one of her past father figures had sent the other to his death.]]
300
301[[WMG: 3 Is a boy and 4 Is a girl.]]
302* Even though the book says that 7 is the only female, in a possible sequel/prequel it could reveal that 3 is a male and 4 is a female.
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