Line #171 WMG/IronManFilms


1	[[WMG:Tony Stark ''is'' suffering from PTSD.]]
2	At least initially. Okay, the whole PTSD thing is a cover story put about by Stane in order to force Tony out of control of the company; but Tony's actions at the press conference (and shortly afterwards) are quite unstable in many ways. Let's be honest: most people don't cope with stress by building a war suit and beating the snot out of terrorists. (Although if easy-build snap-together war suit kits become available, it may become a popular option.)
3	* Rumours that the sequel will deal with Tony's alcoholism arc from the comics might support this theory.
4	* This is a plot point for the comics' version of Tony, as well as the whole rationale for the introduction of War Machine. Keep in mind that War Machine ''is'' in the sequel.
5	* Yes, he should do something sensible like Bruce Wayne, who dressed like a flying rodent and wandered the streets of his city beating fellow pedestrians to a pulp.
6	** Bruce Wayne is also suffering from PTSD.
7	*** DependingOnTheWriter, he can be either.
8	* No flashbacks, or intense overreactions to related stimuli, or etc., so, no. If nothing else, strictly speaking it's not PTSD unless he's been suffering those symptoms for at least six months (or something like that). His "unstable" actions are probably a pretty normal response. And no, most people don't cope in that specific way, but coping by pouring everything into your passion or artform or hobby or whatever ''is'' a normal response to stress, and Tony's just happens to be engineering. Weapons engineering in particular.
9	* Apparently confirmed as of ''Film/IronMan3''. He suffers panic attacks whenever the events of ''Film/{{The Avengers\|2012}}'' are brought up, and he hasn't slept properly for an extended period of time-- when he tries, he has tumultuous nightmares.
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11	[[WMG:Tony came in contact with [[Franchise/{{Transformers}} Optimus Prime]] at the Burger King where he picked up his Whopper coming home from Edwards AFB.]]
12	Naturally, Pepper was ticked off at having to pose as Prime's driver to complete the transaction.
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14	[[WMG:Stark Industries was part of the Super-Soldier Project.]]
15	Tony's father was active during WWII and helped make the atomic bomb a reality and, given that genius apparently runs in the family, it seems possible he was involved in other secret projects the government was running at the time. With the ''[[Film/TheAvengers2012 Avengers]]'' movie being set up in the SequelHook, it's likely that ComicBook/CaptainAmerica will make an appearance, and his origin will naturally be addressed. Perhaps a recently-unfrozen Steve Rogers knew Tony's father during the war and bears ill will?
16	* Alternatively, Stark Industries ''is still'' part of the Super-Soldier Project. In the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe, attempting to create the next big super-soldier serum knockoff is an industrial sector all its own, as, according to Ultimate Nick Fury, the next war will be fought with super-soldiers. The sequels will reveal Stark Industries has a secret genetic engineering lab (under cover of those enhanced crop projects Tony mentions when wooing that reporter), which will be the source of a bunch of supervillains for the movie Avengers to fight.
17	** Possibly {{Jossed}} by ''Film/{{The Incredible Hulk\|2008}}''. In that movie, it's revealed what happened to the Weapon Plus program (the name appears on a canister), but Stark Industries may still have been involved...
18	*** The Stark logo was there because they made the cryogenic canister which held the serum.
19	*** The Wal*Mart Exclusive comic that came with the DVD [[http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/6484142.html reveals]] that Tony's father worked on "an alloy" for Project: Rebirth; Tony found an example of it and used it to strengthen the suit. The "final product" was lost.
20	*** Since Captain Americas shield can be seen veeeeeeery briefly in the background of Tony's lab, it's easy to assume that it was the product of his father's alloy. But the original formula must have been lost because, as we all know, Cap's shield is even more indestructible than Batman and Chuck Norris combined, which is why his suit could only be 'strengthened' rather than turning him into a walking pile of adamantium/steel alloy.
21	*** The Super-Soldier Project was Weapon-I under Weapon Plus in the comics.
22	** Then again, ''Spiderman'' shows that the U.S. government is once again hiring private corporations to design super-soldiers - who knows whether they approached Stark Industries before the events of the film? Maybe Stark even worked with Norman Osborne, providing some inspiration for the Iron Man suit.
23	*** The Spidey films are non-canon (Sony still have the rights, so none of the Spider-Man characters can appear in the Marvel Movieverse flicks), but it's an intriguing idea nonetheless.
24	* One of the trailers for the Film/{{Captain America\|The First Avenger}} movie confirms that a "Mr. Stark" was indeed involved in and present during Steve's injection with the Super Serum.
25	** And the actual movie shows that Howard Stark was very involved in the whole process, ''and'' made Cap's shield, ''and'' hung out with him quite a bit as well. (Which gets rid of the "Steve doesn't like Tony's dad" WMG.)
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27	[[WMG:Stane had Tony's parents killed.]]
28	This is based on absolutely nothing but a quick headline in the "Tony's backstory" montage at the beginning, which mentioned that Tony's parents were killed in an automobile accident. Automobile 'accidents' are notoriously easy ways to dispose of someone without making it look like you disposed of someone. It's immediately clear that Stane isn't the most ethically minded person around, and it's unlikely that he only recently decided to become an underhanded prick who sells weapons to bad people and arranges for people to die in ways that can't be connected back to him. He certainly has no qualms about offing Tony. Plus, there's something just a little bit sinister in the way Stane's always stressing how he and Howard were close and whether Howard would be proud of Tony or not. It's not difficult to imagine Stane deciding that Howard (who, although we know next to nothing about him, we can imagine via Tony's eventual moral awakening to be a bit more ethical) was being 'selfish' and needed to go. As for keeping Tony around: well, a wunderkind is pretty useful for coming up with all those lovely profitable weapons, especially if he's at an easily influenced and malleable age and you're his only father figure -- until he starts getting in the way and you start getting sick of being in his shadow, of course...
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30	Stane never reveals this to Tony, but then, he's not an idiot; not only does he not want to give anyone any more rope to hang him with (okay, international weapons profiteering and treason are on a slightly higher level than a double murder; but it all adds up, especially with a confession to go with it), but he's probably smart enough to know that being stupid enough to confess something like that is just going to [[HeroicResolve give Tony the resolve he needs to kick Stane's ass all the way to Afghanistan and back]].
31	* If the movie meshes with the comics, then it was the fault of poorly-made brakes, with no connection to Stane at all; in fact, the first thing Tony did upon inheriting Stark Industries was to buy out the company that made the brakes and fix the flaw.
32	* Tony's dad and Stane got along excellently; the whole source of animosity between Tony and Stane is that Tony's so different from his father.
33	** Maybe so; but then again, Stane and Tony appear to get on excellently before Stane tries to have Tony whacked. Stane doesn't appear to be the kind of person who'd let friendship get in the way of profit. Furthermore, as mentioned above, one of the only real sources we have in the movie that indicate that Tony's dad and Stane got along famously is Stane himself; Tony's dad is for obvious reasons not available for comment and Stane's hardly going to tell Tony, "Hey, I actually hated your Dad and plotted to have him murdered. No offence, kid."
34	* Nah. He just fired them.
35	* [[spoiler: Jossed. Tony's parents were killed by the Winter Soldier aka Bucky Barnes on orders from HYDRA.]]
36	** Though that doesn't preclude the possibility that Stane was involved somehow (perhaps he was the one who tipped them off as to where they were at that time).
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38	[[WMG:Raza is alive and will become the Mandarin.]]
39	A couple of times in the film, we see Raza fiddling with a ring on his finger. He talks about ruling Asia and mentions Genghis Khan, whom the comic's version of Mandarin claims to be descended from. He even calls his terrorist group the Ten Rings. In the end, it appears that he's killed by Stane, but we never see him die.
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41	No, what happened is, Stane just killed all his men and left him alive. Over the course of the next film, we'll see Raza gather the rest of the rings and become the Mandarin for either the climax of Iron Man 2 or for Iron Man 3.
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43	* I cannot think of a single reason why Stane would let Raza live.
44	** Stane likes humiliating people. Remember he didn't just let Raza live, he paralyzed him so he would have to listen to his men being slaughtered. Leaving Raza alive, in the middle of nowhere, completely alone, is probably a FateWorseThanDeath, because now he has to get back to civilization with no army and either explain to the Mandarin just how bad he fucked up, or start from scratch with no backup. As far as Stane was concerned, he basically stapled a Burger King application to Raza's face.
45	* Raza seems more like a henchman from the get go... and the Mandarin is known to give some of him more trusted servants one of his rings from time to time.
46	** Raza is at best TheDragon to the Mandarin's BigBad, and it will be revealed in the second movie (that they ARE working on) that Mandarin is pulling the strings of at least the Ten Rings and possibly even Stane. Stane probably wouldn't be fully aware of his manipulations though (if they exist).
47	** Raza one point mentions, "the man who's ring I wear", meaning the Mandarin already exists and Raza was in some way working for him.
48	* Raza survived only to be [[YouHaveFailedMe killed by the Mandarin]].
49	* Variation: Raza ''is'' a high-ranking lieutenant to a supreme commander, but he talks about "his turn" to rule Asia because [[TheStarscream he wants to take over the Ten Rings for himself]].
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51	* [[spoiler: Jossed. ''Film/AllHailTheKing'' reveals that the REAL Mandarin is still out there, and has in fact existed for thousands of years. Thus, not Raza. Though since The Mandarin leads the Ten Rings, Raza clearly worked for him.]]
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53	[[WMG: All of Stan Lee's characters in the live action Marvel films are the same person]]
54	* Yes, but that would mean that in ''The Incredible Hulk'', the Abomination managed to go crazy in New York without bringing in the Fantastic Four, Spider-man, Daredevil, or any local X-men. Also, that would mean Willie Lumpkin somehow got gamma poisoning in Milwaukee and is still able to pick up women in California.
55	** There's also the problem that he was Willie Lumpkin in Fantastic Four 1, and Stan Lee trying to get into the Storm-Richards wedding in the sequel.
56	** No, no, he is obviously traveling between dimensions. He knows a lot more than he lets on...
57	* JustForFun/TimeLord. Duh.
58	** No, The One Above All DUH.
59	* Surely it would make more sense if there were separate Stans for each series of films? So there's a Spider-Man Stan, a Willie Lumpkin (who passes himself off as Stan), a Marvel movieverse Stan, an X-Men Stan... you get the idea.
60	* According to ''Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2'', he's a Watcher.
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62	[[WMG: Tony Stark got good with the suit so quickly, not because of his 20th-level badassery, but because every powersuit skill had a basis in one of his pre-practiced "for Drama" skills.]]
63	Example: When the Jericho missile goes off, he knows not only exactly how far away to be that the shock wave just barely reaches them, but also how to hop from the front of his feet to the back and lean back at just the correct angle. Everyone else is shown to be straining against the shock wave, but he manages to stay upright with his hand in his pockets the whole time without batting an eye. Why? He does this sort of thing all the time; he spent most of his free (before Iron Man) time between inventions practicing for his next big Crowning Moment of Subtle, and each such skill later made him that much better at each powersuit skill (in this case, stabilized free flight).
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65	[[WMG: Jarvis is not an AI.]]
66	He's never explicitly identified as such, and he delivers more sass than you'd expect from a computer program. Who's to say he isn't some guy sitting in a control room? Yes, Tony's trusting him with his secret, but he seems pretty casual about it, all told. And yes, Tony keeps him on some pretty crazy hours, but Jarvis is likely well recompensed and, after all, Tony seems to attract people who are willing to let their lives revolve around him.
67	* The novelisation explicitly mentions Jarvis being safe in his mainframe, but you're free to disregard the canonicity of the novelisation.
68	* The "Avengers initiative" scene at the end looks more like a Hollywood AI losing power than some guy in a control room wondering WTF is going on.
69	** In ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'', the Jarvis "AI" is downloaded into ComicBook/TheVision.
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71	[[WMG: Jarvis and the other systems are smart but not AI smart.]]
72	Jarvis and the workshop robots are 'expert systems' not AIs. They aren't creative or free-thinking. We see Jarvis controlling armour suits in Iron Man 3 and they are supremely capable in combat, reading their surroundings and dealing with threats, but that's it. They couldn't knit a sweater or build a brick wall. They are programmed by Stark, to work incredibly well in very limited environments: running a house and laboratory, fighting a dozen human sized opponents, sweeping up. They may even be able to learn and adapt - in those limited environments. But they aren't AI yet. Jarvis' snark is programmed in, at Tony's whim. The clumsiness of the workshop bots is part of their learning. Tony tolerates that, and enjoys being angry at them, because they are his pets, and they don't answer back. Note: this WMG is supposed to answer the rather clever point about MisappliedPhlebotinum in YMMV. AI of the kind we see in the movie has bigger repercussions than flying power armour.
73	* There are two problems with this. 1. AI do not need to be creative or free thinking to be considered AI. AI is just a colloquial term for a computer that thinks on its own, no matter how simple. Coding in video games that move npcs or computer opponents, for instance, are considered AI. There is absolutely no doubt that JARVIS is some kind of AI. You're probably thinking of artificial sentience when you say AI, but once again, artificial sentience isn't defined by an ability to be creative, just self-awareness and an ability to learn. It's quite clear throughout all the films that JARVIS holds some level of artificial sentience. The second problem is that JARVIS ''is'' creative. It would be incredibly difficult to program ''snark'' into a machine that wasn't creative, and on top of that Tony hands him the reigns to multiple problems requiring creative solutions (like finding a new element to replace palladium in the Arc Reactor). It's obvious that JARVIS is an artificially sentient AI program designed by Tony to be a personal assistant.
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75	[[WMG: Stane is alive.]]
76	Stane somehow survived the explosion of the arc reactor (Tony did, after all) and in Iron Man 2 will become the Mandarin's [[TheDragon Dragon]], and/or will become involved in the creation of some other Iron Man villains (Crimson Dynamo, Titanium Man).
77	* No, [[Film/TheBigLebowski Stane abides]]. Which he no doubt does. Although he won't be back for the sequel - league finals.
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79	[[WMG: Rhody is was severely injured between films and require skin grafts]]
80	The recovery process resulted in Rhodes getting [[TheOtherDarrin thinner]] and his skin getting ''[[Film/TropicThunder darker]]''.
81	* He had [[WesternAnimation/TheBoondocks re-vitiligo?]]
82
83	[[WMG: Tony Stark is really Iron Man.]]
84	I've got it! Iron Man is supposedly an employee of Stark Enterprises but no evidence of this has ever been really seen - he's never seen following Stark even though he's supposed to be Stark's bodyguard, and on the rare occasions they are seen in the same room, Iron Man never speaks, so it could easily be anyone wearing the same armour. Stark has numerous times supposedly fired Iron Man but it doesn't stop Iron Man from appearing even though he should be out of funding and Stark always welcomes him back with open arms in the end. What more evidence do you need?
85	* Dude, where have you been? He claimed so in that one meet the press thing the military did about Iron Man.
86	* No, that press thing was just a stint to throw us off it was just like that time Harvey Dent said he was the Batman but he wasn't! But maybe you're on to something with the jerkass billionaire playboy idea... Hmm. Have we ever seen Bruce Wayne and Iron Man together?
87	** And Peter Parker can never get photos of Superman! It's all so clear.
88	*** Yes, of course... BRUCE WAYNE IS TONY STARK!
89	---> Obviously, they agreed to a corporate merger. It was cemented by Stark and Wayne by using the Manga/DragonBall Z [[FusionDance fusion earrings]]. Ladies and Gentlemen: Toby Stayne!
90	----> Would that make the actual FusionDance version of them be Brony Wark?
91	-----> [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Brony]] Wark?
92	** Bruce and Tony are both genius billionaires with a penchant for fighting crime despite lacking innate superpowers. Given their intelligence and resources, swapping roles to further derail any suspicions of Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark being superheroes is another logical layer to obfuscate any further probing, as it would be obvious to the untrained observer that Tony Is Iron Man and Bruce is Batman. Bruce dons the Iron Man suit and Tony Stark defends Gotham as the Caped Crusader.
93	[[WMG: Tony Stark is the power source for his armor.]]
94	His power is not his inventive genius, it's his ability to make the arc reactor work better by [[NoConservationOfEnergy producing more power than it should]].
95	* So it's powered by [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Spiral Energy?]]
96	** Or the [[Franchise/TheFlash Speed Force]]. Or [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} The Warp]]. Or [[Franchise/TheDCU The Source]]. Or {{Mana}}. Or [[TabletopGame/GeniusTheTransgression Mania]]. Or TheForce. Or [[Series/StargateAtlantis Zero-Point Energy.]] Or [[AWizardDidIt Magic]]. Or ThePowerOfRock.
97	*** More likely....his Ego. If there isn't a line in one of the movies of 'Stark's ego could power New York', there should be.
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99	[[WMG: Tony Stark is a clone of UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla.]]
100	Minus the madness, of course.
101	* The man builds an arc reactor ([[MemeticMutation in a cave with a box of scraps]] no less), plugs it into his chest, builds the iron man suit and hunts down the people who got access to his weapons without him knowing about it and you're trying to tell me he's not crazy?
102	** He's crazy in very different ways than Tesla. Certainly he doesn't have the phobias about touching or sex. And he's way too impulsive to have OCD.
103	*** ''Too'' impulsive? OCD manifests in different ways for different, or even the same people. Being compelled to stick screws up your nose [[Literature/ThiefOfTime is not the opposite of]] being compelled to arrange them all in the proper drawers. It's just a different, more socially-acceptable target.
104	** That's not the kind of OCD Tesla had. And compulsive behavior of ''any'' kind is not impulsive, by definition, whether sloppy or neat.
105	*** It's not impulsive, but it does look that way from the outside.
106	---> And ''again'', Tesla's compulsions were not of that sort. They were repetitive and precise.
107	---->Tony's madness/ocd may be ''different'' from Tesla's but that does not disprove the original WMG... or prove the initial description of being "minus the madness."
108	*** In Iron Man 2, a film of Howard Stark calls Tony 'His greatest creation'.
109	*** When Tony travels back to the year he was born in ''Endgame'', Howard mentions his wife being pregnant. But that may or may not be a clone.
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111	[[WMG: Fin Fang Foom will make it into the movies somehow.]]
112	Let's face it, Iron Man doesn't have the most interesting rogue's gallery. What he DOES have however, is a giant Dragon from space. This is an opportunity to good to pass up.
113	* A giant Dragon from space ''that talks''!
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115	[[WMG:The whole film is Tony's hallucination after the mine explodes.]]
116
117	[[WMG: Robert Downey, Jr. ''is'' Tony Stark]]
118	Because honestly, have you ever seen a more perfect choice/portrayal of any role, ever? When the IM movie was greenlit, an experiment was conducted (make up your own theories as to what) to literally bring the character of Anthony Edward Stark off the pages of a comic book and into a living, breathing, flesh-based organism. The real Downey sadly died of an OD around the time he was reported in the news as "going to prison," and they chose a form impeccably similar to his to pass off for Tony's "actor."
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120	[[WMG: Clint Barton wasn't in Iron Man 2 , because he was on a mission]]
121	In Iron Man 2 Black Widow is not a russian Spy but a S.H.I.E.L.D shadow operative. Why ? Because in this universe Fury recruits from the best. A former marine sniper , raised in the circus and having a history of petty theft. Clint Barton is saved from years in the Stockade and becomes a SHIELD Special Operative. Called Hawkeye for his aiming skills he takes after the Ultimate Hawkeye using two handguns and a Sniper rifle he calls ' the Longbow' . As a MythologyGag one time he will have to use an actual bow and arrow and be surprised how natural it feels. He , former Fighter Pilot and transport officer Sam' Falcon' Wilson, Undercover and recon Expert 'Mockingbird' and Logistics and tactical Commander Dum Dum Dugan along with the Widow will end up Captain Americas support team in the 2012 film .
122	** Hawkeye is confirmed to appear in The Avengers movie in 2012
123	*** He does make a cameo in Film/{{Thor}}, and he is a SHIELD agent.
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125	[[WMG: Howard Stark is Captain America]]
126	Howard was one of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s founding members, and Captain America's shield has been seen in both films (albeit way more explicitly in Film/IronMan2). He would have had the knowledge and technology to develop the super-soldier serum and create his signature shield.
127	* Biggest problem with this: Captain America is a World War II veteran. Howard Stark probably wasn't even born by that point.
128	** ...except Tony EXPLICITLY mentions that his father worked on the Manhattan Project. I would say there's potential in this theory!
129	*** Alright, I was mistaken about that bit. But that would ''still'' disqualify him as Captain America, for two reasons: A. It's ''sorta'' hard to be both fighting on the front lines in Europe ''and'' working full-time in a laboratory in the southwest United States at the same time, and B. Captain America was lost, frozen in a block of ice, right after the war, so he, you know, couldn't have created a multi-million dollar company, had a family, and then died publicly.
130	*** [[TheSchizophreniaConspiracy That's what they want you to think.]] [[EpilepticTrees See "Pre-Civil War Cap is already dead" below.]]
131	*** Clearly, 'working on the Manahattan Project' was Howard's cover to his family for being Captain America so they could be normal civvie genius millionaires; conversely, 'lost in a block of ice' was the government/public cover for what happened to cap when he demanded to have his happily ever after family retirement.
132	* [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger No. But he did work alongside him and designed a lot of the tech that made him who he is.]]
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134	[[WMG: The second movie is like the second act of a "Behind the Music" special.]]
135	Or the third, if you go by commercial breaks. The part just before the band gets back together. Anyway, someone [[http://io9.com/comment/22781037/ floated this on io9]].
136	->This is a movie about a rock star going through the pains of stardom, realizing being a rock star doesn't make you immortal and freaking out and trashing the hotel room as a result. It's about the just-peaked star becoming self-destructive and the friends and staff around him being worried about it.
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138	[[WMG:Vanko sends Tony his burd.]]
139	He takes it, puts it in a Hammer box, and leaves it with the company mail. It's delivered the next day, and Tony is a little freaked out by it and the accompanying note before trying to pawn it off on Pepper. "I can't handle a bird! I can't even handle a cactus!" [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6007882/1/What_happened_to_the_burd Something like this]]. cough
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141	Alternately, it becomes a supervillain and seeks revenge.
142
143	[[WMG:The 'unknown element' is based on Captain America's shield.]]
144	Howard Stark had an absolute unshakeable conviction that the element he needed existed/could exist and an exact structural formula for that element -- but he couldn't make any himself. This isn't likely if he's just working on pure theory: theory can potentially be wrong until it's tested by experiment, and any decent scientist knows this. But it ''does'' make sense if the reason Howard Stark is so [[IncrediblyLamePun adamantly]] convinced that his wonder element actually exists (and could derive its exact structural formula) is because ''he already had a sample of it to analyze''. It is just that '''''he''''' didn't create it (i.e., it was found or made by accident) and he can't make any ''more'' of it with the technology of his era. Now, in the Marvelverse, what's the first thing that comes to mind when you think "lump of supreme wonder-metal that was created by accident and nobody's ever been able to make another one"? Answer: Captain America's shield. Which ''just happens'' to be in the very same trunk of stuff that Howard Stark hid his element formula in. (Note that as near this troper could tell, Cap's shield was not incomplete, it was merely disassembled -- all the separate ring segments had been separated from each other and the centerpiece. As if somebody had been trying to reverse-engineer it...)
145	* [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger Captain America's]] real shield was lost along with him, but Howard did create it - out of Vibranium.
146	* It was heavily implied in a scene in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'' where the elder Stark tinkered with some captured power, that the "new element" serving as a power source was based on the Asgardian power of the Cosmic Cube.
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148	[[WMG: The only Captain America in the movie continuity will be Bucky Barnes.]]
149	Pre-''ComicBook/{{Civil War\|2006}}'' Cap is already dead. [[HumanPopsicle Bucky]] is discovered by S.H.I.E.L.D. in their investigations of Vanko's laboratories and allies ([[WhathappenedToTheMouse the same investigation where one of the Avengers adopts his bird]]), and in finding out that his mentor has been dead for decades (possibly at or shortly after the end of WWII, possibly [[WMG/IronMan twenty years ago after living a long, fulfilling life and having a brilliant yet impulsive son]]) takes up the Shield. The Avengers' Initiative was based on an idea the original Captain had that he was unable to carry out before his death, mostly because Nick Fury was really the only other available superhero of the time.
150	* [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger Very no.]] It's Steve Rogers. But Bucky was in the movie, did grab Cap's shield at one point as a MythologyGag, [[spoiler: and they NeverFoundTheBody so he might be back someday...]]
151	** Captain America: The Winter Soldier. So, yes.
152
153	[[WMG: Hammer will be a supervillain in Iron Man 3.]]
154	Either PlayedForLaughs when the hammertech fails horribly, or having bought some shiny new toys from someone who can actually engineer ([[PossessionImpliesMastery or]] [[AvertedTrope both]]).
155	* He never appears or is mentioned in Iron Man 3 directly, but an Iron Man 3 sequel short about the Mandarin being kidnapped by Fu Manchu, does feature Justin Hammer and his boyfriend.
156
157	[[WMG: North Korea and Iran weren't building Iron Man ripoffs, they were building Metal Gears.]]
158	Both are too large and non-humanoid to be power armor. Get a good look at the NK - it looks like a bastardized REX/Gekko hybrid. (The Iranian MG's going too fast to see.)
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160	[[WMG: Vanko's Bird was behind everything.]]
161	The bird was previously owned by Vanko's father, who taught it intelligence, and eventually all of his knowledge, up to and including arc reactor technology. The Bird gained some sort of telepathy through becoming so intelligent, and controlled Vanko like a puppet while he built his machines. Vanko could only build a few rudimentary machines on memory without the Bird's presence, since the Bird was feeding him the instructions. Vanko claimed that the bird given to him was "not my burd," but this was just to mess with Hammer. The Bird now has a secret identity as "Not His Bird."
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163	[[WMG:Stark Industries cut a toy deal with Hasbro.]]
164	Where else would all the fun RP toys come from? It's not like Stark Industries has a toy division...
165	* Maybe it grew one after Tony shut down the weapons division.
166	* Considering that the kid's helmet and other prop toys are all real ''Iron Man 2'' merchandise, this could be spot-on.
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168	[[WMG:The kid was rewarded for blasting away a Hammeroid.]]
169	Congratulations kid, have this burd.
170	* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments I could hardly stop laughing]].
171	* That kid was actually the kid in the third film.
172	* According to WordOfStPaul, it was Peter Parker.
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174	[[WMG:Tony Stark became a [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Heartless]].]]
175	Or a being that can switch his hearts out at will. When Stane took away his reactor near the end of the first film, he was briefly a weak Heartless until his heart could be restored thanks to the intervention of his close friend and love interest. However, he was not complete as his Nobody, Stane, and his giant Heartless helper Iron Monger, still had his heart. But thanks to the explosions rendering that heart somewhat unretrievable, Tony has had to improvise and create new hearts for himself later...and his body continues to reject the ones he makes, still wanting his real heart back.
176	* Tony's the nobody. Heartless are made of hearts, nobodies have no hearts. This does, of course, mean that the new chip is [[HeartIsAnAwesomePower a]] [[WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers Power Ring]] (note that it is open in the center).
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178	[[WMG: The Burd joins SHIELD.]]
179	It built an arc reactor IN A CHEAP APARTMENT, '''WITH A VENGEFUL RUSSIAN'''. I think it's SHIELD-worthy. When it's bored with R&D, it can hang out with Hughen and Munin while they nannycam Thor (once he joins [[TheVerse the MCU]]).
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181	[[WMG: Howard Stark and Anton Vanko were best of friends; hence, Howard named his son after Vanko]]
182	and the break between Vanko and Papa Stark wasn't due to a disagreement about making money from arc reactor technology. As a co-inventor Howard Stark would've had the right to license the technology for free even without Vanko's assent. No, Nick Fury knows the real story, but the real story doesn't paint either man in the best light, and so he made something up to get Tony out of his depression.
183
184	[[WMG: The element that Howard Stark discovered isn't just something random, it is Vibranium]]
185	That is why Howard Stark had Captain America's shield, he was the one who originally made it, but could not make it into the one we know and love because he did not have the technology to create Vibranium yet.
186	* He was the one who made [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger Captain America's]] shield, but it was made of Vibranium - all of the Vibranium they had. However the original got lost along with Cap.
187
188	[[WMG:Tony is a descendant/distant relative of [[Film/SherlockHolmes2009 Sherlock Holmes]].]]
189	[[IdenticalGrandson You know it]] [[ActorAllusion makes sense.]]
190	* Actually, this makes a lot more sense than you probably think. Both Tony Stark and Sherlock Holmes are innovative and inventive geniuses who easily understand the concepts of technology that is incredibly advanced for the time period they live in (Stark's PowerArmor and the wireless device in Sherlock Holmes, and if one takes in the written canon he's a prodigy in chemistry and one of the innovators of Forensic Science). Holmes's drug problems (eye surgery medicine used to be laced with Heroin) could have easily been a hereditary problem which passed down and evolved into Tony's alcoholism. On top of it all, both of them, plus Howard Stark, were workaholics who needed to keep their mind busy in one form or another otherwise they went nuts. Add to that their shared DeadpanSnarker and JerkWithAHeartOfGold personalities as well as both having HeterosexualLifePartners (Holmes has Watson and Stark has Rhodey, respectively), a special pet (Gladstone and "Dummy"), That woman who is the one exception (Stark's never hit on Pepper and has yet to sleep with her, while Miss Adler is the only women/criminal to outsmart Holmes), and of course the fact that they [[Creator/RobertDowneyJr look alike]], makes it almost seem like this was intentionally planned from the start.
191
192	[[WMG: Vanko asking Hammer for his burd was a SecretTestOfCharacter]]
193	Hammer failing to get him the "right" burd proved either his ineptitude or his dishonesty. Either way, Vanko knew that a.) he could easily manipulate Hammer to get his revenge on Stark and b.) he really ought to because Hammer would only keep Vanko around as long as he was useful to him.
194
195	[[WMG: Vanko survived the end of Iron Man 2]]
196	The self destruct of the drone arc reactors had a time delay much more than long enough to allow Iron Man to escape. A poor means to kill Tony... unless it wasn't meant to kill him. Instead, the delayed detonation was meant to drive away Iron Man, giving Vanko a chance to escape from the site, leaving behind his armor to destroy itself. A stretch, yes, given the on screen time interval between Tony and Rhodie fleeing the site and the explosions happening... but just this side of possible. After all, we don't see a body, or see him specifically engulfed in an explosion ala Stane. hat tip to the Fridge Logic editor who first posted the idea
197
198	[[WMG: Rhodeys new look is because of Scarlet Witch]]
199	[[AWizardDidIt Scarlet Witch had one of her Meltdowns]] that rewrote reality and lead to the timeline where ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' was the origin of the ComicBook/XMen, Reality reverted back to normal sort of and Rhodey ended up with a new look.
200
201	[[WMG: The element in the blueprints Howard passed down to Tony was vibranium, and the Captain America shield shown was a prototype from him trying to recreate the element.]]
202	It was comfirmed in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger'' that Howard Stark designed Steve's shield, and that it was indeed made of vibranium - all the vibranium they had, actually. But the original shield was lost alongside Cap, so their entire supply of it was gone after that. But since Howard made the shield, he had probably been studying the element in an attempt to figure out how to create more of it. The shield we see in Stark's lab could have been a test model he was trying to use to recreate it, since he didn't have the original anymore. There's a pretty good chance that that was the element in the blueprints he passed down to Tony.
203	* The novelization has Tony actually name the new element Vibranium.
204
205	[[WMG: [[CompanionCube Dummy]] the robot was built because Tony wanted a little brother]]
206	* Tony begged his dad for a little brother to play with and Howard answered absently "Build your own." So [[ChildProdigy 8-year-old Tony]] built a robot to play catch and do other brotherly activities with.
207
208	[[WMG: The arc reactor is the product of an attempt to build a new Cosmic Cube.]]
209	According to Nick Fury, Howard Stark always derided the arc reactor as "unfinished technology" and "the stepping stone to something greater." Even Tony acknowledges it as having been terribly inefficient before he started working on it. Whatever this something greater is, it would supposedly dwarf the energy output of nuclear reactors in the same way they outshine batteries. It makes even more sense when you remember that Howard Stark [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger did a lot of work in WWII]] that showed concern for more than the bottom line: he secretly flew two Allied agents over enemy airspace for a rescue mission, allowed the world's only vibranium sample to be carried into battle for propaganda purposes, and ''personally experimented on a fragment of the Cosmic Cube'' recovered from HYDRA. Having witnessed the Cube's power and the ridiculous technological advantage it offered HYDRA, Howard would conversely understand how ''useful'' the Cosmic Cube could be if it was applied ''peacefully'' and shared with the world.
210	* I feel really stupid for having put almost the same WMG on the WMG page for the overall Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse without checking here first, though there is some minor differences in terminology (positing that the arc reactor was an attempt to reproduce the energy-generation with human technology rather than stating it as an attempt to build a new Cube, mostly - they have the Cosmic Cube, so strictly speaking they could just do what Hydra did but for non-military uses, but that has flaws). When one thinks about it, even the palladium-based arc reactor that Tony built after getting home could count as something greater, if only it was reproduced (that little thing seems to generate a lot of power for something that small), though of course Tony seems rather reluctant to do the sharing with the world bit.
211
212	[[WMG: The "Ex-Wife" actually isn't worthless.]]
213	It just needs a bigger range. While the movie does play up Hammer's inability to match Tony Stark, it seems like too much of a stretch to assume that the "Ex-Wife" was never actually tested, as testing would have revealed if the shell really was as worthless as what was implied(as opposed to saying they just constructed it and assumed any simulations were the same as actual results). The reason it failed utterly is that the launcher, Rhodey, fired it from close range. Real life bunker busting missiles won't detonate until they're past a set distance. If the Ex-Wife is ''really'' as powerful as Hammer says it is, it's probably similar in that it doesn't arm itself until it's a safe distance away from whoever fired it.
214	* That's actually a really good point. After hearing the DescriptionPorn Hammer laid out for the Ex-Wife, you'd figure that Rhodey would know better than to try to use it at '''point blank range''', Iron Man suit or not.
215
216	[[WMG: Natasha and Happy hook up later.]]
217	HilarityEnsues when he learns that she goes by the name ComicBook/BlackWidow...
218	* They are never shown interacting again onscreen before Natasha's death.
219
220	[[WMG: Iron Man is actually set in the Stargate Universe]]
221	It happens back in the time of the Ancients, before they got all their awesome tech. The Arc reactor is a primitive ZPM. Think about it: small, cylindrical, energy source with phenomenal amounts of power stored inside. Tony will eventually make larger, yellow versions and return to the cylinder shape instead of the triangle.
222	* There are Asgardians in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and they're nothing like those in Stargate at all...
223	** Actually, Stargate-Thor's first "appearance" is as a hologram. In the hologram, he impersonates a large, powerful, blonde Norseman.
224
225	[[WMG: Tony Stark is actually a [[Webcomic/GirlGenius Heterodyne]].]]
226	It makes perfect sense! "The technology they need hasn't been invented yet"- "A strong Heterodyne will take about two hours to truly warp the laws of physics." Clearly, it's not that the tech hasn't been invented, it's just that they aren't Sparks. Howard Heterodyne's breakthrough device was actually a dimension warper. Everyone in Mechanicsburg thought it had killed him, when really, it just dumped him in the 1940s Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse. He was probably still in the Madness Place when he first encountered people, and so said something unintelligable including "Howard" and "Spark", which they misheard as "Stark", and assumed that was his name. He quickly realized that as the only Spark, he'd probably live a good bit longer there than back home. We've seen what the nursery looked like, it's no wonder he never went back. The reason he was less into the weapons than Tony is that he saw a chance to get away from all of it, so he could just invent stuff, be famous, rich, etc. Tony, on the other hand, didn't have the experience with the insanity of the Heterodyne family, so he didn't have any real reason to not make that stuff until the movie.
227
228	[[WMG:Rhodes in the Iron Man film is Paul from Hotel Rwanda.]]
229	The horrors Paul witnessed motivated him to move to America, join the Air Force, and eventually become the superhero War Machine.
230
231	[[WMG: Pepper Potts [[spoiler: will become Rescue in Iron Man 3]]]]
232	Ben Kingsley is confirmed to play Mandarin and the first two films show the defeat of Hammer and Stane, so why not work in [[spoiler: Ezekiel Stane and Justine and Sasha Hammer]] while they're at it? Given that WordOfGod says Iron Man 3 will deal with the ''Extremis'' arc [[spoiler: which Mandarin had nothing to do with]], maybe [[spoiler: Ezekiel Stane will be the guy who the Extremis virus is leaked to, allowing him to compete with Iron Man in the climactic fight]]. After all, 'Stark Resilient' is the logical choice for a Mandarin-based plot, given the stuff about Stark working on renewable energy in ''Avengers''. Logically, if Zeke and Sasha are in the film [[spoiler: Pepper should get injured and become reliant on an arc reactor]] during the course of the story. If all this is happening, RuleOfCool dictates that [[spoiler: Detroit Steel]] should put in an appearance as well, possibly with [[spoiler: Sasha wearing the armour]].
233	* But Justin Hammer is only around 40 years old in the movies (if we're going by Sam Rockwell's age, 43), so I don't know if Sasha would work. Maybe Justine. Ezekiel Stane would be awesome, though.
234	** As the troper who posted the original WMG, fair point about Sasha. Having seen the trailer and read a few film mags, it looks like I may have been right about the rest. The trailer shows Pepper restrained in a lab, which may be when she gets fitted with an arc reactor, and we're getting Firepower and at least one other villain in Iron Man-style armour. Can't wait. And yes, Ezekiel Stane appearing in it would make my day.
235	* Not quite confirmed in [[Film/IronMan3 Iron Man 3]]. She does end up wearing the Iron Man armor briefly, and potentially as a MythologyGag, she uses it for rescue purposes. But she doesn't actually get her own suit.
236	** [[spoiler: Looks like she'll become Rescue in ''Film/AvengersEndgame'']].
237
238	[[WMG: The Mandarin uses reverse-engineered Chitauri tech.]]
239	It'll be used as a stand-in for "tech taken from Fin Fang Foom".
240	* It seems the tech predates the Chitauri invasion. It is said to be alien magic, but it still could be from an ancient Chitauri techno-sorcerer.
241
242	[[WMG: Tony Stark will be framed by the Mandarin for serious crimes.]]
243	The Mandarin hacks into Stark's newest armor and goes on a rampage with it, killing and/or severely injuring several people. A manhunt goes out for Tony Stark, leading to the military blowing up his house as shown in the trailer. Tony is forced to go on the run and stop the Mandarin, without having access to his usual rescources.
244	* Ref'd. Although he wasn't being hunted, Tony lost access to his suit and had to improvise a slapdash slew of weapons with which to confront "the Mandarin."
245
246	[[WMG: Raza, the Ten Rings leader from the first film, is the Mandarin's son.]]
247	In the first film, Raza is similar to the Mandarin in some notable ways; he speaks of Genghis Khan, who the Mandarin claims ancestry from, and how he wishes to rule Asia, and wears a rather ornate ring, that is either the same or similar to one of the rings worn by Mandarin himself in the trailer. These similarities are intentional, because Raza is going to be revealed to be the Mandarin's son, and the humiliating defeats Raza suffered in the first film, from both Tony Stark and Obadiah Stane, is why Mandarin is taking such an active role in avenging them. As to whether Raza himself will appear, I don't know, but if it turns out he IS Mandarin's son, then he probably will at some point.
248
249	[[WMG: Fin Fang Foom is going to appear.]]
250	The Cinematic Universe has proven they're willing to go along with the more fantastical elements of the Marvel universe, and Mandarin has a connection to him in the comics, so it's possible that he will appear in the film. Since a big fight scene at the end between the hero and villain is necessary, it won't be Mandarin that Tony fights, but rather Fin Fang Foom. ComicBookMoviesDontUseCodenames may or may not be in effect though, regarding his name as "Fin Fang Foom" DOES sound a bit too hokey for the Cinematic Universe. He may only be referred to as "The Dragon" or maybe even "The Makluan", after his planet of origin. It'll be even more awesome if they manage to keep his role in the film a secret, and out of the trailers...or at least the first wave.
251
252	[[WMG: Rhodey saw action with the Mk II before he brought it to the military.]]
253	On his way to see Stark, Rhodes is clearly fielding calls from people desperate to have Iron Man back on duty. There is something out there. He leaves with the Mk II in order to deal with it himself. Bringing it to the military is an afterthought. It is "fully mission capable".
254
255	[[WMG: The Mandarin ''is'' Fin Fang Foom ]]
256	He's just [[SleepModeSize saving his energy]] by turning human and not having to waste his time killing idiots trying to dragon slay.
257
258	[[WMG: Justin Hammer is a Robosexual.]]
259	On what planet are a bunch of robot drones better than cheerleaders? I mean, yeah, the drones are cool, but...
260
261	[[WMG: Black Sabbath sued Tony Stark]]
262	In the movie verse their song came first.
263	* Well, Black Sabbath wouldn't actually be able to sue Tony since it was the media that labeled him Iron Man. He merely decided to own the name after the fact. Also, the term references two separate things. The band can't sue the man because the name wasn't based on nor intended to reference their song.
264	** Most legal standards hold that real inventions have trademark precedence over fictional concepts (hence why someone could call an Alcubierre system a [[Franchise/StarTrek "warp drive"]] without Paramount suing.
265	** Considering just ''how'' filthy rich Stark has been established, even if there was any legal issues, he'd probably just buy the rights to the song ASAP.
266
267	[[WMG: Howard Stark made a contract with [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Kyubey]]]]
268	While Howard was a grown man at the time, Kyubey saw great potential in him; He's connected to all the MCU avengers except Bruce Banner and stands at the head of the cutting of military R&D. This would give him a great karmic destiny which could be transformed into a great deal of energy. Thus, Kyubey decided to make an exception. He waited for Howard's time moment of greatest vulnerability and appeared when Howard was looking for Steve Rogers in the Artic.
269	-->''I can make your wish come true. All you have to do is make a contract with me.''
270	Howard wished to 'find Steve' and so Kyubey brought him on board the ship. However, he was still comatose from the crash and the ice. Howard visited him in the hospital regularly between running Stark Industries and fighting witches. Kyubey says that all humankind's progress has been due to Magical Girls and this is where Howard makes the switch from ArmsDealer to Energy Baron by inventing a revolutionary new kind of energy; the arc reactor. Clean and renewable energy would push humans to greater heights but as the years passed Howard fell into despair. At the professional level he was 'limited by the technology of my time' and at the personal level Steve remained comatose. See, he wished to 'find' Steve instead of 'revive/safe' Steve and so by the time Tony Stark was born, all the boy knew was a cold and distant father. Eventually he turned into a warlock and was slain without a thought by another of Kyubey's clients.
271	* Except Steve wasn't found in Howard's lifetime. Under the premise of this WMG, it would fit better if Kyubey was already trying to lure him and when Steve was going down in the plane, Howard desperately wished to save his life. Which, technically, did happen when Steve was frozen.
272
273	[[WMG: The fourth Iron Man film will come out in 2020]]
274	The villain of the piece should be obvious from this. Arno will either have the same relationship to Tony as the comics or be Howard's great nephew, but will have a similar level of genius. He'll be trying to take over Stark Enterprises (either feeling it's his right if Pepper's still in charge or just because he thinks he's better than Tony otherwise) and make his own armour. Tony will redeem him by the end of the film allowing Tony and Downey to retire from the starring role in future Iron Man films, with Arno as the lead.
275	* It didn't.
276
277	[[WMG: JARVIS is built in part on Howard Stark's attempt to replicate ZOLA.]]
278	Howard has a history of trying to recreate interesting technology he comes in contact with: the cosmic cube led him to develop the arc reactor.
279
280	[[WMG: The Grand Unifying Theory of Doctor Anton Vanko]]
281	* In Film/IronMan1, we hear that the [[MythArc Arc]] [[{{Pun}} Reactor]] was built to "shut the hippies up".
282	** If Obidiah Stane is speaking literally, that would place its construction around the late sixties to early 70s.
283	* In Film/IronMan2, we learn of Anton Vanko, close partner of Howard Stark, co-designer of the Arc reactor.
284	** Anton is the Russian (and eastern European) version of "Anthony", Tony's name.
285	** Tony was born around 1969-1970.
286	** Anton was supposedly deported for trying to sell the designs to the Arc reactor.
287	** As stated above, he would be legally within his right to do so, raising the question of what kind of justification for deportation that is.
288	** He was, furthermore, sent to Siberia.
289	** Russia never got an Arc reactor.
290	* In ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'', we discover the shocking secret: Hydra has been within the heart of SHIELD ever since its inception.
291	** Hydra's modus operandi, using the [[FalseFlagOperation Winter Soldier]] amongst other tools, was to foster war and tension between the superpowers.
292	** Howard Stark was dangerous to their designs, and met with a [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident convenient car accident]].
293	** [[WildMassGuessing Was he the only one?]]
294	Anton Vanko, partner of Howard Stark, was innocent of any crime. He was framed for whatever crimes were necessary, and deported not by Stark, but by SHIELD, or rather, Hydra. How could Howard go from trusting and loving the man enough to name his own son after him, to deporting him over some hypothetical money? Not only was Anton [[SpannerInTheWorks just as dangerous to Hydra's plans]] as Howard, he would also be a useful pawn in their game of chess between the superpowers. Anton wasn't just deported to get him out of they way, Hydra [[BatmanGambit wanted him to build the Arc reactor for Russia]]. Recognizing what was happening, Anton refused, and was sentenced to Siberia. Being that he had the knowledge required to build one, it would be foolish for the USSR to simply shoot him. Tragically, Anton's son would never understand what had truly transpired [[spoiler:because neither Captain America movie had been written yet]] and thus came to blame Howard Stark for his father's imprisonment and alcoholism. In actuality, Anton's silent lifetime imprisonment was one of the [[HeroicSacrifice greatest heroic acts]] of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, and no one would ever know.
295
296	[[WMG: Iron Man 4 ideas]]
297	* The real Mandarin will be the BigBad of the film where he will see Tony as a WorthyOpponent and trying to get him to agree to WeCanRuleTogether and upon being refused will resort to systematically destroying everything in Tony's life to get him to comply.
298	* Living Laser will be a secondary villain with a backstory as a former Stark Industries employee that was fired and is recruited by the Mandarin, who gives him his powers, to get revenge.
299	* Spymaster or Ghost will be appear as corporate saboteurs employed by the Mandarin to bring down Stark Industries.
300	* A lesser Iron Man villain (Melter, Killer Shrike, Unicorn) will appear early in the movie for Tony to fight and be revealed as having been hired by the Mandarin.
301	* Ezekiel Stane will appear as a new business rival to Tony that either wants revenge for his fathers death or to prove himself better than his father by beating Tony, which he does by allying with the Mandarin.
302	* Fin Fang Foom or Technovore will appear to provide a genuine monster for Tony to battle and will be created either by Mandarin or Zeke.
303	* Tony will have returned to being Iron Man full time after ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' and has to balance this with the new restriction that the Sokovia Accords enforces while coping with his recent actions in universe.
304	* Rhodey will regain mobility only in the War Machine armor and has to come to terms with being on what is essentially mobile life support just to walk.
305	* Pepper will have quit working at Stark Industries, only for the Mandarin to kidnap her as part of his plans against Tony.
306	** At some point Pepper will don the Rescue armor and gain a deeper understanding of why Tony continues to be Iron Man, which will lead to them reconciling.
307	* The Mandarin's plan will involve the use of Extremis.
308	* The Mandarin will use his rings to create armor for himself so he can fight Tony hand to hand.
309	* Tony, Rhodey, and Pepper will all make a HeroicSacrifice to stop the Mandarin's plan. (Pepper to stop a monster the Mandarin is using, Rhodey to defeat Living Laser, and Tony to stop the plan wholesale.)
310	** Following said sacrifices Happy will follow instructions from Tony for in case the worst happens and perform BrainUploading to Extremis grown clones of the three, which would be a good way of recasting the characters and there will be dialogue [[LampshadeHanging lampshading]] the recast.
311	* Tony will gain his technopath powers through Extremis like he did in the comics.
312	* TheStinger will have Living Laser being recruited to join the Masters of Evil.
313	* The likelihood of an Iron Man 4 is pretty low given Tony's death in ''Endgame''.
314	** As for anything related to the Mandarin,[[spoiler: he ended up becoming the antagonist and father of Shang-Chi]]
315
316	[[WMG: In the MCU, [[CelebrityParadox Robert Downey Jr.]] joined the AA, befriended Tony Stark during a meeting and went on to become the superhero Anthem]]
317
318	[[WMG:An idea for ''Iron Man 4'', featuring Iron Man 2020 and ComicBook/DeathsHead]]
319	* Iron Man 2020 armor
320	* Dr. Evelyn Necker and ComicBook/DeathsHead
321	* War Machine and Rescue
322	* Adam Warlock
323
324	[[WMG: The ideas tied to the ''Iron Man'' franchise will be continued in a spin-off series following Riri Williams as Ironheart or Toni Ho as Iron Patriot II]]
325	* Rhodey, in either case, would be TheMentor to Riri or Toni.
326	* The villain would be the real, honest to goodness Mandarin.
327	* The Mandarin's son will be a major character and take heavy influence from Gene Khan from WesternAnimation/IronManArmoredAdventures.
328
329	[[WMG: Why we never see Hammer again.]]
330	Hammer tried to break himself out of prison using a body double, the same way as Vanko. The double ended up killing him and stealing his identity.
331
332	[[WMG: Raza was trying to overthrow Wenwu.]]
333	As [[Film/ShangChiAndTheLegendOfTheTenRings Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings]] showed, the real leader of the Ten Rings was Xu Wenwu, and Raza was just the leader of the Afghanistan cell.
334	However, unlike the myth that shrouded their leader; Raza found out the truth about Wenwu but deemed himself more leader material. So when he found the remains of the Mark 1 suit and asked Stane to mass produce it, it wasn't just for the sake of their deal; it was also to give Raza a strong enough weapon to kill Wenwu and take the Ten Rings organization for himself.

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