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1	[[WMG:This game is Blizzard's AuthorsSavingThrow for the TooBleakStoppedCaring reactions caused by VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft after Cataclysm]]
2	Look at the Warcraft roster, for example. Excepting Li Li and some others stuffs, most of them come from the times when people were still praising the characters genuinely. Jaina is still a peace-loving mage that doesn't hate the Horde, Thrall is still the Warchief of the Horde, Tyrande and Malfurion seems to be still the normally reasonable Night Elves protector of nature (and competent ones, since Tyrande didn't seem to do that ''A Little Patience'' thing), Muradin is in his Mountain King look and refers that Magni still 'lived' rather than him taking on the dwarves' kingship, Arthas is still on his deadly Lich King self, Sylvanas didn't put much focus on the whole Val'kyr business, still feeling disgusted with her undead status and focusing more on vengeance on those who turned her into Banshee, Anub'arak isn't dead yet...
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5	Yes, we know that they're all taken from different timelines, but don't you think it's kind of weird that Blizzard took all these characters BEFORE the more questionable storylines in Cataclysm, the moment where the storyline and characterization gets skewed in order to keep the ''War'' in Warcraft, started?
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7	Maybe this was Blizzard's way to say "We're sorry with our questionable storylines, here, have the characters taken from the time that you like them best!". Of course, we know that there is also some rumors that some future characters would probably be those rising in prominence after Cataclysm, such as Varian, Garrosh, Aggra, Vol'jin... but somehow, it kinda gave hope to those who were disillusioned with the Warcraft characterization. The events at post-Cataclysm would be limited to just joke quotes or extra skins or something, such as Thrall resigning from the Horde and giving it to Garrosh, World Shaman Thrall, Jaina being frightened at her white hair (or sinking her shipping with Thrall without referring to Aggra), Sylvanas just merely making a passing reference to Val'kyr...
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9	Perhaps Garrosh and Varian, if included, will be taken from their hotheaded selves seen in ''Wrath of the Lich King''. Maybe if they include Grom Hellscream in the future, they would take the classic Grom, instead of ''Warlords of Draenor''!Grom. And perhaps, if Kael'thas is to be included, he'd be in his more sensible ''Frozen Throne'' self, instead of the maniac seen in ''Burning Crusade''.
10	* EDIT: Saying that it's after Cataclysm may be stretching it, because Kael'thas is included and he seems to take after his ''The Frozen Throne'' self, a vengeance driven, but still sane Prince of the Blood Elves, not the megalomaniac Kil'Jaeden servant seen in Burning Crusade. (Although he is still called "the Sun King," which does date back only to ''Burning Crusade''.) This continues, then Zul'jin, if included, will be more of his [=WC2=] presentation that is loyal to the Horde than the one seen as the Raid Boss in Burning Crusade.
11	** It's not just ''Warcraft''. The appearances of Tyrael and Diablo come right out of ''Diablo II'', even though both of them also appear in ''Diablo III''. I agree that Blizzard is throwing a bone to players who like the older Blizzard games better than the newer ones.
12	*** On the other hand, there are rumors that with Johanna's inclusion, there will be a Diablo-based map and Diablo appeared in ''Diablo III'' appearance during the first trailer when he went toe-to-toe with Raynor, so maybe they're not quite done with the ''Diablo III'' design. Besides, so far the PC representatives are the Nephalems, not the original ''[=D2=]'' heroes (Paladin, Necromancer, Sorceress/Isendra, Amazon, etc). I think that for Diablo, Blizzard might think they haven't screwed up enough story-wise that they'll still give a bone to newer Diablo players and lore fans.
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14	[[WMG:The Nexus is Purgatory/Hell, and all the Heroes and minions there will spend eternity battling each other in atonement for their past acts]]
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16	The Heroes, mercenaries and minions are all stuck between time and space where they cannot die and pass on to the next life; instead, they battle each other in endless combat over and over again. They are forced to die at the hands of, or even worse, work with characters whom they would never cooperate with while they were alive. However, the forces that be insist that they work and fight... forever. Even angels and demons like Diablo and Tyrael (who, despite being an angel, is sentenced to a place where evil can never be defeated) are sentenced to a never-ending struggle until Judgement Day and trumpets sound.
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18	The arena announcers are powerful beings (so powerful that they can keep celestial forces in check) who are also doomed to live out their sins. Blackheart and the Spider Queen represent greed for gold and gems, Ka represents pride and has no peace in being worshiped by his structures that are being perverted as weapons, etc.
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20	Of course, the exeption to this would be those brief moments where the Nexus seems like paradise (much like how Sylvanas comments that it's great to be able to kill Arthas again and again). But even then, this brief moment of satisfaction is taken away almost instantly, like a glimmer of hope snuffed out like a candle. Indeed, this place is purgatory.
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22	[[WMG:If [[VideoGame/DiabloIII Leah]] ever makes it to the game...]]
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24	She'll give Diablo a piece of her mind similar to nearly everyone who wanted a piece of Arthas in the Warcraft side. It'll make things fair anyway.
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26	Leah is kind of 'teased' amongst Diablo characters to be included.
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28	[[WMG:[[VideoGame/{{Starcraft}} Arcturus Mengsk]] will be playable, and then...]]
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30	Future heroes will put him as the Starcraft side's ButtMonkey, like Arthas. There's just... no other possible choices for this from the Starcraft side.
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32	[[WMG:Future Heroes Prediction]]
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34	Well, you know the drill. Blizzard has a lot in store that they can use. Let's see who will appear. Will also include the above [=WMGs=]
35	* Confirmed [=WMGs=] so far: Leoric, Artanis, D3 Wizard (Li-Ming), Zul'jin, D.Va, Garrosh, Junkrat, Alexstrasza, Hanzo, Firebat (Blaze), Maiev, Fenix, Deckard Cain, Yrel, Mephisto, Mal'Ganis, Imperius, Anduin, Deathwing, Mei, Hogger
36	* Diablo series
37	** Playable Characters:
38	*** Aidan (D1 Warrior, later the Dark Wanderer)
39	*** Moreina, (D1 Rogue, later the Blood Raven)
40	*** Jazreth, (D1 Sorcerer, later the Summmoner)
41	*** Isendra, (D2 Sorceress)
42	*** D2 Assassin
43	*** D2 Druid
44	*** D2 Paladin
45	*** D2 Barbarian
46	*** D3 Necromancer
47	*** D4 Sorceress
48	*** D4 Druid
49	*** D4 Barbarian
50	** Demons:
51	** Lilith
52	*** Baal
53	*** Belial
54	*** Duriel
55	*** Andariel
56	*** Cydaea
57	*** Ghom
58	*** Rakanishu
59	** Angels:
60	*** Itherael
61	*** Izual
62	** Others:
63	*** Leah
64	*** The Cow King
65	*** Maghda
66	*** Archbishop Lazarus
67	*** Gharbad the Weak
68	* Starcraft series
69	** Protoss
70	*** Selendis
71	*** Aldaris
72	*** Talandar
73	*** Vorazun
74	*** Rohana
75	*** Karax
76	*** Ulrezaj
77	*** Ji'nara
78	*** Mojo (Scout)
79	*** Taldarin (Immortal)
80	*** Warbringer (Reaver/Colossus)
81	*** Talis (Adept)
82	** Terrans/UED
83	*** Rory Swann
84	*** Egon Stettman
85	*** Ariel Hanson
86	*** Horace Warfield
87	*** Reigel
88	*** Donny Vermillion
89	*** Carolina Davis
90	*** Arcturus Mengsk
91	*** Valerian Mengsk
92	*** Edmund Duke
93	*** Gerard [=DuGalle=]
94	*** Gabriel Tosh
95	*** Matt Horner
96	*** Mira Han
97	*** Alan Schezar (Goliath)
98	*** 21-46 (Adjutant)
99	*** Dennis Halkman OR Crooked Sam (Reaper)
100	*** James "Sirius" Sykes (Warhound)
101	*** Rob "Cannonball" Boswell (HERC)
102	** Zerg
103	*** The Overmind
104	*** Izsha
105	*** Zurvan
106	*** Vaevictis (Hydralisk)
107	*** Zasz
108	** Other
109	*** Amon
110	*** Narud
111	*** Maar (Hybrid)
112	* Warcraft series
113	** Horde
114	*** Orgrim Doomhammer
115	*** Grom Hellscream
116	*** Teron Gorefiend
117	*** Blackhand
118	*** Varok Saurfang
119	*** Eitrigg
120	*** Kargath Bladefist
121	*** Ner'zhul
122	*** Kilrogg Deadeye
123	*** Garona Halforcen
124	*** Broxigar
125	*** Hamuul Runetotem
126	*** Overlord Geya'rah
127	*** Cairne Bloodhoof
128	*** Baine Bloodhoof
129	*** Sunwalker Dezco
130	*** Mayla Highmountain
131	*** Lor'themar Theron
132	*** Lady Liadrin
133	*** Halduron Brightwing
134	*** Grand Magister Rommath
135	*** Jastor Gallywix
136	*** Vol'jin
137	*** Rokhan
138	*** God-King Rastakhan
139	*** Princess Talanji
140	*** Nathanos Blightcaller
141	*** Lilian Voss
142	*** Thalyssra
143	*** Kiro
144	*** Ji Firepaw
145	** Alliance
146	*** Anduin Lothar
147	*** Danath Trollbane
148	*** Tirion Fordring
149	*** Turalyon
150	*** Leeroy Jenkins
151	*** Khadgar
152	*** Rhonin
153	*** Harrison Jones
154	*** Katherine Proudmoore
155	*** Mathias Shaw
156	*** Maximilian of Northshire
157	*** Magni Bronzebeard
158	*** Brann Bronzebeard
159	*** Kurdran Wildhammer
160	*** Hemet Nesingwary
161	*** Moira Thaurissan
162	*** Broll Bearmantle
163	*** Fandral Staghelm
164	*** Alleria Windrunner
165	*** Magister Umbric
166	*** Vereesa Windrunner
167	*** Arator the Redeemer
168	*** Gelbin Mekkatorque
169	*** Prophet Velen
170	*** Maraad
171	*** Captain Fareeya
172	*** Nobundo
173	*** Aysa Cloudsinger
174	*** Prince Erazmin
175	** Eternals, Loa, Old Gods, First Ones, Elemental Lords and Dragons
176	*** Cenarius
177	*** Wrathion
178	*** Ysera
179	*** Nozdormu
180	*** Korialstrasz
181	*** Malygos
182	*** Kalecgos
183	*** Al'akir
184	*** Therazane
185	*** Neptulon
186	*** Hakkar the Soulflayer
187	*** Bwonsamdi
188	*** Algalon
189	*** N'Zoth
190	*** Y'Shaarj
191	*** Yogg-Saron
192	*** C'thun
193	*** G'huun
194	*** The Arbiter
195	*** Denathrius
196	*** The Winter Queen
197	*** Kyresteia the Firstborn
198	*** The Runecarver
199	*** The Jailer
200	** The Burning Legion
201	*** Sargeras
202	*** Archimonde
203	*** Kil'jaeden
204	*** Mannoroth
205	*** Varimathras
206	** Others
207	*** Prophet Zul
208	*** Lord Godfrey
209	*** Grand Apothecary Putress
210	*** Millhouse Manastorm
211	*** Archbishop Benedictus
212	*** Edwin [=VanCleef=]
213	*** Taran Zhu
214	*** Lorewalker Cho
215	*** Lady Vashj
216	*** Akama
217	*** Wilfred Fizzlebang and Lord Jaraxxus
218	*** Azshara
219	*** Magatha Grimtotem
220	*** Vek'lor and Vek'nilash
221	*** Nexus-Prince Haramad
222	*** Locus-Walker
223	*** Moroes
224	*** Darion Mograine
225	*** The Headless Horseman
226	*** Lei Shen
227	*** Xavius
228	*** Lothraxion
229	*** Terokk
230	*** Gorak Tul
231	*** Bolvar Fordragon
232	*** Calia Menethil
233	*** King Mechagon
234	*** Annhylde
235	* Overwatch
236	** Winston
237	** Soldier: 76
238	** Widowmaker
239	** Symmetra
240	** Bastion
241	** Reaper
242	** Zenyatta
243	** Torbjorn
244	** Cassidy
245	** Pharah
246	** Sombra
247	** Reinhardt
248	** Mercy
249	** Roadhog (with heavy DivergentCharacterEvolution)
250	** Orisa
251	** Doomfist
252	** Moira
253	** Brigitte
254	** Wrecking Ball
255	** Ashe and B.O.B.
256	*** B.O.B. as his own hero
257	** Baptiste
258	** Sigma
259	** Echo
260	** Sojourn
261	* Hearthstone/Blizzard Classics
262	** Snake Sanders
263	** Harth Stonebrew
264	** Morgl
265	** Nemsy Necrofizzle
266	** Sir Annoy-O
267	** Dame Hazelbark
268	** Elise Starseeker
269	** Sir Finley Mrrglton
270	** Reno Jackson
271	** Archthief Rafaam
272	** King Togwaggle
273	** Madam Lazul
274	** Hagatha the Witch
275	** Dr. Boom (Technically from ''World of Warcraft'', but who remembers that version?)
276	** Blackthorne
277	** Tomator
278	** Scorch & Fang
279	* Heroes of the Storm Originals
280	** A Heroes of the Storm minion
281	** The random heroes avatar/A "Keeper of the Nexus"
282	** The Raven Lord
283	** Ka
284	** Verick and Delia
285	** A representative of the Dark Nexus
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287	[[WMG:The above WMG (Hero guessing) based on this Arena promotion picture...]]
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289	[[https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_folder_media/H864FXENNCXK1446678714560.jpg This picture]]
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291	Some weapons seems to be not belonging to any of the rosters so far announced after Blizzcon 2015. There are a green dagger (the poisoned dagger with spiders seemed to belong to Nazeebo), possibly fueled with either a special potion or fel energy, and a purple magic staff/wand. This might refer to the next heroes revealed after the Blizzcon reveals, so let's start guessing based on them:
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293	* Magic staff: Could belong to any magical arcanist, most likely either the Diablo 3 Wizard or Diablo 2 Sorceress (if the naming scheme is using the more canon resource unlike Blizzard's tendencies as of late, it would be either Li-Ming or Isendra). Failing that, it might refer to one of the Arcane magic users in Azeroth, namely either Khadgar or Medivh.
294	* Dagger: This might refer into 2 archetypes:
295	** Warcraft Rogues: Using poisoned daggers. The two candidates are either Garona Halforcen or Valeera Sanguinar (Valeera is less likely as the dagger did not match her dagger's unique shape, however it has some fel energy while she dabbled with them)
296	** Diablo 2 Necromancer: Has a Poison Dagger skill and he might have a different form of poison dagger when compared with those from Azeroth. Not to mention, at Blizzcon 2015, the changed the Haunted Mines announced from 'Necromancer' to 'Grave Keeper', possibly alluding for a future inclusion.
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298	* The jury's out. Magic staff belonged to Wizard, dagger belonged to Necromancer.
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300	[[WMG: The Monk will make a ShoutOut to VideoGame/LeagueOfLegends]]
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302	With the Lost Vikings giving ShoutOut to the term originating from LOL meme, 'Spin to Win!', they might continue with the guy played by Creator/JamiesonPrice. Maybe the Monk, using one of his skills, will yell at a most patriotic ham: '''"IVGOROD!!!"'''[[note]]Same way Garen yells '''"DEMACIA!!!"'''[[/note]]
303	** Jossed.
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305	[[WMG: The Nexus does in fact connect all worlds]]
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307	It is in the same chaos dimension as the pandemonium area in Diablo and the Twisting Nether in Warcraft. [[spoiler: Amon's void area in starcraft also fits.]] Because of the chaos of this enormous dimension, it takes different forms in different universes, and in another hidden corner, the Nexus exists. Characters are drawn through portals are drawn into various universes's style of portal, and brought into the "storm" portion of this dimension to fight each other.
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309	The Chaos generates various environments because that is what chaotic dimensions do, in floating flat areas like what you find in Outland, Hell, pandemonium, or [[spoiler: the void rocks in Starcraft]], alternatively, [[spoiler: he Xel'naga did produce it, as Artanis's quote suggests, or a more general "creator" species did it. Terrazine was possibly used, in a similar way to the unit clones in Legacy of the Void]]. In addition, the characters subconsciously communicate with each other psychically through the Nexus, explaining how the different universes have similar characters and plot points. These communications strengthened over time, and also allowed portals to the chaos dimensions to grow stronger, leading to current heroes of the Storm.
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311	It remains to be seen how Overwatch will connect, possibly an experiment gone wrong.
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313	[[WMG: The Nexus doesn't actually remove individuals from their respective universes.]]
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315	If you look at the Nexus in the various menu screens - character select, match select, the marketplace - everything is digital. It's all hexagons and holograms and things that wouldn't look out of place in ''{{Franchise/Tron}}''. And then, we have this gem:
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317	-> '''Artanis:''' ''This realm poses many questions and few answers... Were the Xel'naga involved in the creation of the Nexus? If so, they have left no temples, no new life forms. Unless... Those life forms were unseen, controlling us through some sort of complicated digital mechanism, some sort of... Battle net, as it were. Maybe even thousands of these life forms, all manipulating our lives at once! Ah, all right, this is giving me a headache.''
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319	None of the heroes involved have actually been removed from their respective timelines - not even the heroes from alternate universes - but are instead copied like a snapshot by the Nexus itself. This 'snapshot' then continues from the point of capture, but only progresses forward within the Nexus. This allows for multiple iterations of the same character to interact with one another, and also preserves the integrity of any respective timelines and/or alternate universes. This could also explain the existence of Master skins, or 'Joke' skins (like [[FanDisservice Bikini Stitches]], the [[BewareTheSillyOnes Pajama Party Lost Vikings]], or [[SugarBowl Kandy King Muradin]]): rather than being pulled from outside, they only exist for those 'snapshots' within the Nexus, creating a series of independent, stable timelines, with no ability to affect anything within the multiverse, and allowing for a consequence free environment.
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321	[[WMG: Just in case Kel'Thuzad makes it to the game, he'll have an annoyed quote regarding him being 'banned' in Hearthstone]]
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323	In ''Hearthstone'', he used to be a Legendary card in the Curse of Naxxrammas set. However, after ''Whispers of the Old Gods'', the Naxxrammas set is to be banned from Standard mode, still available for Wild mode, but probably not going to be on the official set. Consider all those and the nature of the StopPokingMe quotes in this game and Kel'Thuzad's model has been leaked since the alpha days, not to mention he's DenserAndWackier in ''Hearthstone'', if he makes it to this game, there's no way he will miss out saying that if he's released.
324	** Jossed, although he does have a few callbacks to Curse of Naxxramas.
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326	[[WMG: [[VideoGame/{{Overwatch}} Tracer]] will have lines about fans shipping her with Widwomaker.]]
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328	* And, like Jaina, she'll shoot the idea down. She'll also probably have lines saying that meeting [[VideoGame/{{Starcraft}} an unnaturaly skinned]] [[Videogame/WorldOfWarcraft bitch using long range weapons]] [[VideoGame/{{Overwatch}} with a spider/insect motif]] [[TakeThatUs is surprisingly frequent]].
329	** Jossed, but don't go just yet. Widowmaker can be the one shooting down the idea if she gets included in the future.
330	** Jossed, as Nova has received a Widowmaker skin, making it unlikely for Widow to appear in the game.
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332	[[WMG: Future Maps[=/=]Realms]]
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334	Other realms of the nexus have been hinted at through various skins, and could be likely candidates for future maps.
335	* A Kaijo-realm themed map where the teams must compete to collect machine parts and build a HumongousMecha for their side. Possibly called Neo-Stormwind.
336	** HumongousMecha idea is in the game now, although its part of the Overwatch map Volskaya Foundry.
337	* A map based on the conflict against the Eternal Empire, detailed in Tyrande, Medivh, Leoric, and Li-Ming's skins.
338	* A ''VideoGame/HearthstoneHeroesOfWarcraft'' map, where players collect mana crystals, and turn them in to "play cards" that attack the other team.
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340	[[WMG: [[DarkIsNotEvil Darkness is]] ChaoticNeutral]]
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342	Most dialogue by the cast implies Darkness is a fairly nice guy, but we hear that he's one good terms with heroes and villains. So Darkness doesn't judge good or evil, he's just friends with whoever he meets. Unless pissed off like when Li-Ming shot with a magic missile for no reason or Gul'dan ripping off his name.
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344	[[WMG: Gul'dan is currently a Destruction Warlock]]
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346	Most of his spells are generic warlock magic, or felfire abilities. The Destruction Skillset is all about felfire for Warlocks.
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348	[[WMG: A future Protoss hero will have this as a StopPokingMe quote]]
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350	"My life for Ner'zhul-- uh, I mean, AIUR!!"
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352	[[WMG: Deathwing will never be a playable character]]
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354	He's simply too ''long''. The basic shape of other huge characters (Azmodan, Ragnaros) are tall rectangles or squares. It's easy to scale those shapes down without making them look silly. However, it's pretty much impossible to shrink a length-wise rectangle into a proper playable shape without making the character tiny. Also, his human form [[RuleOfCool isn't cool enough]] to be a hero and would be a waste of his character.
355	** Possibly Jossed now that Alexstrasza is confirmed, although her dragon form does only last a few seconds.
356	*** 100% Jossed now, since he's real.
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358	[[WMG: The coming destruction that The Raven Lord saw was Baal or Deathwing]]
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360	In the first Heroes of the Storm comic, The Raven Lord sees a great destructive force and had to summon the Dark Nexus in desperation. The finale to this story will be 2018's Blizzcon, with heroes stopping the Raven Lord only to find out it's too late, revealing either the Lord of Destruction or the Destroyer himself (or possibly both!). Bonus points if it results in a Diablo, Ragnaros, and Baal/Deathwing duel against Hanzo, Alex, Genji, D.Va, and Varian.
361	** Jossed, although he did make it to the game in 2019.
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363	[[WMG: The Raven Lord is trying to save the Nexus from the Omega Swarm]]
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