| 1 | ''Important notes'': |
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| 3 | '''''Please read the WMG/ProgrammeNote''''' and remember that '''''not''''' all entries are meant to be taken seriously! Some are joking. Although the most likely theories are welcome, so are intentionally-silly ones or even ones that completely contradict canon. [[WMG/ProgrammeNote WMG pages are just for fun!]] |
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| 5 | And [[Administrivia/YouHaveBeenWarned because this is a WMG page for a sequel, spoilers on this page for the previous franchise installments are UNMARKED.]] This will give away what happens in the first film and shorts. |
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| 7 | Hans-specific ''Frozen II'' WMG entries have their own page [[WMG/FrozenIIHans here.]] |
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| 13 | [[folder:Jossed]] |
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| 15 | [[WMG: The identities of the teaser trailer "new characters"):]] |
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| 17 | * The boy could be the son of Kristoff and Anna (in a flash-forward. (Blond father, blond maternal grandfather, there's a 50/50 chance their kid could be blond.) |
| 18 | * Kristoff's [[MissingMom long-lost mother]] when she was young. |
| 19 | * Possibly a TomboyPrincess. Even though she dresses very simply, she wears a purple belt. GracefulLadiesLikePurple and PurpleIsPowerful. Maybe the girl met Queen Iduna when they washed up from the shipwreck, who gave her the purple belt and sashes. |
| 20 | * Another member of the Sami tribe that Kristoff is a member of. Could be a friend, or possibly even Kristoff's sister. |
| 21 | * {{Jossed}}. They're Iduna and Agnarr as children. |
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| 23 | [[WMG: Anna and Elsa will pretend to be a couple as a way to reject suitors.]] |
| 24 | |
| 25 | Elsanna could be that strong. It will also let Disney show a lesbian couple without admitting that they did so. |
| 26 | * Or they will pretend to be an ordinary couple, with one of them dressing as a man- probably Anna! |
| 27 | * Yeah, it would also let Disney show that they might support sibling incest. |
| 28 | * {{Jossed}}. |
| 29 | |
| 30 | [[WMG: Anna will be revealed to have repressed air powers]] |
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| 32 | A few of the teaser scenes (like the leaves blowing a young man up in the air) make it seem like someone, maybe Anna, has a locked-away ability to manipulate air. How was it locked away? Well, the trolls removed all memories of magic from Anna when she was five. But notice what Grand Pabbie says to Anna and Elsa's parents when he does so: "I recommend we remove ''all magic'', even memories of magic, to be safe." Grand Pabbie's differentiating between “remov(ing) all magic” and “memories of magic.” Meaning that if Anna had her own magic, Grand Pabbie could have removed it here, along with Elsa’s ice blast and her memories of Elsa’s magic and her own. Since Anna has learned about magic, and the witch lock in her hair has been erased as a result of being completely frozen and then unfrozen by Elsa's magic, perhaps the effects of Grand Pabbie’s memory/magic removal spell are starting to wear off and now Anna is rediscovering her own powers. |
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| 34 | There's another bit in the teaser where Anna is holding a book that looks just like the one that we saw Agnarr grab when he was looking up the map for where the trolls lived. So maybe she's found out past knowledge of the Troll’s magic and possibly her own. |
| 35 | * {{Jossed}}. Kristen Bell confirmed Anna's sole power is still her heart. |
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| 37 | [[WMG: We'll learn more about the characters' names.]] |
| 38 | |
| 39 | * The sisters Elsa and Anna could have had longer first names: Elisheva and Anneliese, perhaps. The names seemed a bit too strange to the people of Arendelle, so Agnarr and Iduna had to find shorter alternatives: Elsa and Anna. |
| 40 | |
| 41 | * Someone will give Kristoff the nickname "Kris", because he's the only current main character whose name is not four letters long. |
| 42 | * {{Jossed}}. Their names never come up. |
| 43 | |
| 44 | [[WMG: RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: Elsa will visit her people...in disguise.]] |
| 45 | |
| 46 | After Elsa loses her powers, her [[PowerDyesYourHair hair will turn from platinum blonde to brown]] so part of her signature look disappears. |
| 47 | * However, she is still going to be portrayed with the cheerful personality shown in Frozen Fever. Elsa may also stop wearing make-up, dress as a commoner, and take inspiration from her mother's life before becoming a queen. |
| 48 | ** She will go out into Arendelle and hope for the best, whether she is recognized by anyone or not! |
| 49 | ** Eventually she will unveil to the townspeople that she is Elsa, and also explain what happened with her powers. |
| 50 | * Maybe Elsa and the others on the journey visit the townspeople of Arendelle at the end for a celebration of bringing Arendelle to peace with the elements. |
| 51 | ** If her parents also return, Elsa and Iduna could dress up like each other for fun! They do look quite similar, after all. |
| 52 | ** Or if the people of Arendelle have been told that Elsa will stay in the Enchanted Forest, she could reappear and be welcomed back to Arendelle after her extraordinary journey further north. |
| 53 | * Mostly {{Jossed}}. Elsa doesn't take on a disguise in ''Frozen II'', and her hair hasn't turned brown due to a "power cut" just yet in the Frozen franchise! She ''does'' take inspiration from Iduna's earlier childhood by staying in the Enchanted Forest with the Northuldra, just ''after'' her reign instead of long before like her mother. |
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| 55 | [[WMG: Elsa will end up engaged to be married.]] |
| 56 | She and her spouse will get along and enjoy each other's company. |
| 57 | However, there will be politics involved and it will be unclear if Elsa and her spouse love each other romantically or are merely friends who married to benefit their people and their home. |
| 58 | * {{Jossed}}. She doesn't have a romance. In fact, it's implied in the beginning that she does not want one. She expresses a distaste for it when playing as a child, and since Anna is younger and does like it, it doesn't seem to be because of her age. Whether she's aromantic, gay, or this reaction has to do with something else, is left up to the viewer. |
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| 60 | [[WMG: Rather than repressed air powers as mentioned above, Anna will have suppressed fire powers instead.]] |
| 61 | Anna was born on the summer solstice, in contrast to Elsa being born on the winter solstice. The pink magic fire in the shape of a heart could be Anna's powers getting out of control, or the villain of the film manipulates her (perhaps through making her BrainwashedAndCrazy) into attacking Elsa with her powers. This may lead to an IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight as Elsa tries to reach through to her, and part of Anna still has some memory of Elsa, hence the heart shape. This would also give a RewatchBonus regarding the part in the first movie where Kristoff says "You almost set me on fire!" when Anna threw the burning cargo at the wolves. |
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| 63 | Regardless, it seems likely that Anna will have ''some'' form of powers, given the pattern on the bottom of her cloak this time [[https://twitter.com/CourtneyLorens/status/1096418299686969349 is the same as one of the magic ice-crystal patterns in the trailer and the teaser poster]], which the fandom has theorized represents the four seasons/basic elements. |
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| 65 | * {{Jossed}}. Anna never shows any signs of fire power in the movie, and Kristen Bell confirmed her sole power is still her heart. |
| 66 | |
| 67 | [[WMG: Maybe Anna has no actual magic, but is trying to take over others' magic]] |
| 68 | Although Anna may not have magic powers, she shows great physical strength at times. She probably ventures by herself for a different reason to Elsa. Maybe she is trying to find Elsa and take away her powers, or she is finding the sources of other magic. |
| 69 | * Anna's personality is going to be more serious, and her fighting skills will be enhanced. To source the magic, she thinks that [[AbilityRequiredToProceed much more skill is needed]] so that her missions can be completed. |
| 70 | * Mostly jossed. Anna still has no actual magic and is more serious than she was in the first movie, but she's not trying to take away anyone's magic or get any for herself, and actually is trying to support Elsa and to [[spoiler: fix what her grandfather did earlier, which had interfered with the spirits of nature.]] |
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| 72 | [[WMG: Anna will get her own animal sidekick]] |
| 73 | Olaf is Elsa's animal sidekick. He was created by Elsa, is her inverse, and guides Anna to Elsa. After ''Frozen'', he is closer to Elsa than Anna. Now that Anna is no longer brain-damaged from ice in her head, she can be her true self--which means getting a sidekick that fits her new, mature personality, assuming she doesn't share Sven with Kristoff. |
| 74 | * {{Jossed}}. Elsa is actually the one who gets her own sidekick - two, actually (Bruni the fire salamander and the Nokk), while Olaf seems closer to Anna, Anna being shown taking care of him throughout the film and [[spoiler:and them both staying in Arendelle after Elsa moves to the Enchanted Forest.]] In previous canon, too, Anna interacts with Olaf more, although marketing likes to put him with Elsa due to them being the most marketable characters. |
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| 76 | [[WMG: The Duke's name will be revealed]] |
| 77 | |
| 78 | As a RunningGag, people will keep on calling him Duke or something similar like "Dukey" or "Weaselton" before he snaps and exclaims "I HAVE A NAME, YOU KNOW!" Prompting everyone to look surprised since no one ever bothered to ask what it is. |
| 79 | * As Weselton is theorized to be the fantastic equivalent to Sweden, the Duke's first name will likely be Gustaf or Carl, names popular with Swedish royalty. |
| 80 | * {{Jossed}}. The Duke does not appear [[spoiler: apart from appearing as an ice figure in the Ahtohallan memories]] and his name is not mentioned. |
| 81 | |
| 82 | [[WMG: Elsa and Anna meet the Duke again- this time, he gives them some hints to the past.]] |
| 83 | |
| 84 | The Duke of Weselton is probably aware of Arendelle's mysterious past- his first lines in Frozen: |
| 85 | * ''"Ah, Arendelle, our most mysterious trade partner. Open those gates so I may unlock your secrets and exploit your riches! Did I say that out loud?"'' |
| 86 | |
| 87 | * Maybe the previously greedy duke is set to change his ways. He could be getting used to magic and the unknown [[spoiler: and remembers when the people of Arendelle built a well known as "The Unknown", perhaps to block the elements.]] He could give some sort of clue as to where the source of magic is, which could help Elsa and the others on their journey to the Enchanted Lands. |
| 88 | * {{Jossed}}. The Duke does not appear[[spoiler: apart from as an ice figure in the Ahtohallan memories]] |
| 89 | |
| 90 | [[WMG: John De Lancie could play a role in the film]] |
| 91 | |
| 92 | John appears as a minor character in ''Olaf's Frozen Adventure'', which seems a little out of place for the actor who has played Q from ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' and Discord from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''. Perhaps he's being teased to play a role in ''Frozen 2''. Here's a list of characters he could play. |
| 93 | ** King Westergaard. |
| 94 | ** A high-ranking officer within the Southern Isles armed forces, who could serve as TheDragon to King Westergaard. |
| 95 | ** The previously mentioned AmbiguouslyHuman character who acts as an ally to Hans. This character could even snap their fingers to use their powers like Q and Discord. |
| 96 | ** One of Hans' twelve older brothers, potentially Lars. |
| 97 | ** The king prior to Hans' father. |
| 98 | * {{Jossed}}. He's not credited. |
| 99 | |
| 100 | [[WMG: There might be a female villain and she will be based on Elsa's original character and design.]] |
| 101 | |
| 102 | We already know how ''Let It Go'' let to the writers changing Elsa to be more heroic and overwrite her whole personality, so they might decide to include Evil Elsa as the new villain and be Elsa's main antagonist to show not only the similarities but also how Elsa might had turn out at she given herself completely to her powers. |
| 103 | ** In order to avoid being the same copy, this one will be fire based and be very similar to Azula from ''Avatar The Last Airbender''. Having already similar hair colors this version will explore a even more powerful version of Azula, one who doesn't have any emotional attachments and therefore an impossible enemy that doesn't understand people. Perhaps she feels love for the first time when she sees Elsa and tries to persuade her to her side (leading to the "Fire-heart" scene) only to fail when Elsa sees the evil in her. She will in turn try to kill her and everyone else with powers. |
| 104 | * {{Jossed}}. The only new villain is King Runeard, who has no apparent connection to earlier versions of Elsa's character. |
| 105 | |
| 106 | [[WMG: Alan Tudyk will voice a new character]] |
| 107 | And people will comment that he sounds similar to the Duke of Weselton. With lines like "You sound so familiar." |
| 108 | * {{Jossed}}. He's only credited as the Duke. |
| 109 | |
| 110 | [[WMG: The sequel could be a CrisisCrossover]] |
| 111 | * Scotland is buried under an unnatural winter, and [[WesternAnimation/{{Brave}} Princess Merida]] has to go on a quest to find out why. She visits a princess known to have experience with magic to ask for help. [[WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}} That princess]] doesn't know what to do, but she has a cousin who's particularly good with ice and snow... Cue Merida, Rapunzel and Elsa teaming up to restore the sun. |
| 112 | * {{Jossed}}. No Disney characters from other movies appear. |
| 113 | |
| 114 | [[WMG: The new villain will be Cassandra from ''Tangled The Series''!]] |
| 115 | A major crossover event with the TV series. After consuming the Moonstone, Cassandra turns up to be hunting a rumoured Ice Queen in Arendelle and comes across Elsa and Anna. Corrupted by the magic, she attacks Elsa in the hopes of consuming her power. |
| 116 | * {{Jossed}}. No Disney characters from other movies appear. |
| 117 | |
| 118 | [[WMG: There could be a reference to Jack Frost, or another AnIcePerson. ]] |
| 119 | |
| 120 | Sure, not Disney, but the guy's based on a PublicDomainCharacter. Maybe more will be explained, and Elsa will be intrigued by the tales of his adventures compare to her skills. The film may even give a nod towards a snow queen or an ancestor of hers who had ice powers too. |
| 121 | * There could also be a reference to AnIcePerson other than Jack Frost. |
| 122 | * Maybe Elsa will ''not'' be impressed by the tales of his adventures compare to her skills. The film may even give a nod towards a snow queen or an ancestor of hers who had ice powers too. |
| 123 | * Possibly, it could be revealed that Jack Frost was a ''Girl/Woman'' all along and the first to have ice powers before her entire legacy was erased for political motives, and described later as a man to erase the though of women having any power beyond men and being seen as heresy. |
| 124 | * Or maybe Jack Frost will appear with a reputation for being a fun-loving spirit who is handsome and even romances Elsa... and then be revealed to be the film's true villain! He will be Elsa's version of Prince Hans. In order to surpass even Hans, Jack wants to keep Elsa alive and make her his Queen and telling her to leave her sister and kingdom as they are nothing but mere mortals below them, hinting at a God-Complex. When Elsa refuses, Jack attacks her and tries to force her to be his queen. For an even bigger shock, it will be revealed that Jack Frost killed the other four guardians, too. |
| 125 | * {{Jossed}}. There are no references to Jack Frost or another cyromancer. |
| 126 | |
| 127 | [[WMG: The film will have autumnal magic]] |
| 128 | The teaser seems to have an autumnal motif. Wind power is also suggested, as well as other natural phenomenons. |
| 129 | * Mostly jossed. There is new magic, including wind power, but it's element-based rather than season-based. |
| 130 | |
| 131 | [[WMG: Romantic love could be an idea surrounding Elsa in the sequel.]] |
| 132 | However, it is ''not'' necessary. In the teaser, the fire circle that surrounds Elsa and Olaf looks pretty similar to a heart. A guess is that this will be part of a musical sequence, where Elsa is suggested to love someone romantically. |
| 133 | * Perhaps it will be someone she just met because it would be a good call back to how she says you can't love someone you just met. |
| 134 | * While possible, it might be inverted. It might possibly be a StalkerWithACrush. Perhaps the villain/villainess might be hoping to attract Elsa who rejects her/him in return. |
| 135 | * {{Jossed}}. Although Elsa does have a ShipTease where she holds hands with Honeymaren and accepts her invitation to come live with her people (bonus points for having just met her), there is no overt romance. |
| 136 | |
| 137 | [[WMG: A new character becomes TheNicknamer]] |
| 138 | |
| 139 | He/she/they give the characters nicknames, both to be cute and annoy them, or possibly to compliment them. Here are some examples of what they will likely use.\ |
| 140 | Anna - Sunshine, Red-rage, Fiery, Red, Princess Smiles\ |
| 141 | Elsa - Elsie, Queen Icy, Snowflake, Blondie\ |
| 142 | Kristoff - Mop Top, Mountain Stench, Ice Guy, Mountain Man, Kris\ |
| 143 | Sven - Antlers, Carrot Breath\ |
| 144 | Olaf - Snowcone, Carrot Nose, Mini Ice, Twig-Arms\ |
| 145 | Hans - Sideburns, Prince Prick, Prince Jerkface, Green Eyes, Green Envy\ |
| 146 | Duke of Weselton - Bald Weasel, Duke Weaselly, Weaseltown\ |
| 147 | Oaken - Facial Hair, Hairy Face, Mustache, Moustache-man, Oaken Julemanden, Inventor\ |
| 148 | The Trolls - Pebbleheads, Rocks\ |
| 149 | Pabbie - Pabs |
| 150 | * {{Jossed}}. None of the new characters come up with nicknames. |
| 151 | |
| 152 | [[WMG: Elsa's true hope is to find her parents, wherever they could be.]] |
| 153 | In comparison to Anna, Elsa remembers so much more about life when their parents were around, since with her delicate powers, she obviously needed much more attention, and it's implied in "Do You Want to Build a Snowman?" that she was the one who got more. She refers to her parents in ''Olaf's Frozen Adventure'' and the non-canonical ''Lego Frozen Magic of the Northern Lights'' short films. Though both sisters may wish for their parents to return, Elsa is certain that they are alive somewhere. |
| 154 | * Elsa forages through some of her old collections of photos, drawings, cards, etc. and also looks through her mother's and father's diaries, looking for the year that they left: 1836. She finds a handwritten note, coincidentally addressed to herself. |
| 155 | ** It could have explained that the parents left in search of an Icelandic magic compass (a vegvísir) or a magical river full of memories- called Ahtohallan, that linked to Elsa's ice powers. They wished to find a way forwards for Elsa- they partially did, because since their departure, she had to become Queen and rule Arendelle - also learning to conquer her fears. However, their missing presence left Elsa feeling that she needed to go further to bring everything to peace. |
| 156 | * Upon finding this out, Elsa probably planned a voyage to Iceland (to a frightening beach called Reynisfjara) or on going north and finding the river Ahtohallan and maybe she found out that this was where her parents were going after all. The magical spirit that gave her ice powers resides there. Oddly, they took a risk and travelled on those violent seas. |
| 157 | ** The autumn place may or may not be in Iceland- it could just is more likely to be Arendelle covered in autumn weather. Or even another place even further afield! |
| 158 | ** It is more likely to be the Enchanted Forest (north of Norway) in autumn weather. |
| 159 | * {{Jossed}}. It's a surprise to Elsa when she comes across their ship, and she accepts that they have passed. |
| 160 | However, it is confirmed that the Dark Sea beach was directly inspired by Reynisfjara Beach in Iceland (from the ''Art of Frozen II'' book). |
| 161 | |
| 162 | [[WMG: The ArcWords of the film]] |
| 163 | |
| 164 | What keywords are repeated could be of significance. |
| 165 | |
| 166 | * Familial Love: Of course this will be of high importance throughout the ''Frozen'' franchise! The relationship between Elsa and Anna becomes stronger, and they learn to live as a family with Olaf, Kristoff and Sven, and the whole of Arendelle. They even go beyond their hometown. Also, they will mention their life with their parents, and the help that Kai and Gerda (the two servants) provided them with. The idea of family will stay at the heart of the film. |
| 167 | |
| 168 | * Hero/Villain: The word that best describes how the people of Arendelle see Hans is the villain, who wanted to be seen as the hero. The King of the Southern Isles, the actual villain, scoffs at such words, saying that they're [[WhatIsEvil invented by those who lack ambition and skill to get what they want]]. Later, after his HeelRealization, the first thing Hans says that convinces Elsa something is different about him is that he doesn't want to be the villain of her story anymore. |
| 169 | |
| 170 | * Second Chance: Hans seeks a second chance from his father before realizing his father had no desire for his son to succeed, only to die in a way so that no one would think he was murdered by his father. Meanwhile, the Duke of Weselton wants a second chance from the sisters for the sole purpose of getting his country's approval, only for things to get worse for him and to put them in more danger. Seeing him a [[DespairEventHorizon broken mess]], Elsa gives Hans a chance to turn his life around and, not seeing any alternative, Hans takes her offer. Learning more about the Duke, Anna takes pity on him and convinces him to turn over a new leaf. Both of them manage to earn forgiveness. At the end, the princes who were most loyal to their father ask Hans if he can give them a second chance. He questions if they're really sorry or just trying to avoid a worse punishment, but admits he'll at least think about it. One character will comment that while few people can get a second chance, fewer manage to earn a third. |
| 171 | * Mostly {{Jossed}}. While familial love is still at the heart of the film, with the focus on the sisterly relationship between the two protagonists, and there is heroism and villainy, none of these things are used as ArcWords. |
| 172 | |
| 173 | [[WMG: Anna will regain her old memories and a locked away power]] |
| 174 | That would be something for a storyline in ''Frozen II'', wouldn’t it? I mean, Elsa never mentioned it to Anna and the only hint that Anna might have heard about it is the walk with Hans when he asked her about her white strand of hair. She replied “Uh, I was born with it. Although, I dreamed I was kissed by a troll.”, and she even smiled about it! |
| 175 | |
| 176 | Perhaps Anna's memories are still falsified and maybe only Grand Pabbie can undo everything, if at all. Trolls have magic in their blood, and even the troll children practice it. On the other hand, the source of their magic could be the crystals in different colours (!) that all trolls wear around their necks. Especially Grand Pabbie, who wears a lot of them (see also the tie-in book ''Journey to the Northern Lights'' and the 2016 short episodes of ''Lego Frozen: Magic of the Northern Lights''). |
| 177 | |
| 178 | But, if Anna ever possessed the gifts of similar powers to Elsa, did Grand Pabbie notice this when he changed her memories and removed those skills at the same time, or could he just suppress them and Anna still has all her unaltered childhood memories with Elsa locked away? |
| 179 | |
| 180 | Maybe Anna will regain her memories in Frozen II and maybe also an innate elemental power. |
| 181 | |
| 182 | Which brings up the powers part: Remember Agnarr storming into the hall on the day of the accident and saying to Elsa, “Elsa, what have you done? This is getting out of hand!”, and seconds later to Iduna, “I know where we have to go.”. |
| 183 | |
| 184 | What if Elsa’s powers only showed themselves at a certain age and Anna, as a second born, wasn’t ready to show similar abilities? The parents could observe this on Elsa for almost five years and had to deal with it somehow. Did they know more about it? We know in the Broadway musical that Iduna had connections to the trolls / fair folk. Was Agnarr frightened when his wife Iduna passed on her talents to Elsa, did he even know that? Who in Iduna’s ancestral history carried this “magic gene” and where does Iduna actually come from? What if Iduna had similar powers (which ones?) and that’s why Agnarr kept Arendelle isolated. Elsa did have that line in "Let It Go" about “A kingdom of isolation”. Did Kai and Gerda know about it and do these two perhaps come from the same place as Iduna? Is that place called Northuldra? They are the oldest servants in Arendelle and may have been for Iduna long before that. The Dark Horse comic “Reunion Road” suggests that at least Kai has a brother in Snoob. It could be, that the new characters in ''Frozen II'' have a relationship to Kai. Kai reacts quite shocked in the new comic when the sisters approached him with questions about Snoob, and hardly wants to reveal details. |
| 185 | |
| 186 | What if one day, even before Anna was born, Iduna visited the trolls to have her hereditary traits removed so that Anna would not share the same fate as Elsa? Would it even be possible for a troll like Grand Pabbie to remove a “magic gene” afterwards or can he only suppress it? Before DNA was even discovered? Grand Pabbie asked Agnarr “Your majesty. Born with the powers, or cursed?”. Does this would make a difference? Maybe. Maybe not. But you can't deny that Anna shows unusually strong courage and determination, and very quick reflexes. She prevented Elsa’s fall from the clock tower in ''Frozen Fever'' in a flash. In the ''Frozen II'' teaser, we see her jump over a cliff and react lightning fast as she draws Kristoff’s sword. So far we only know this reaction speed from Elsa (when the Duke's men were shooting at her in the ice palace). So will Anna possibly regain her powers in ''Frozen II'' - if she has any - and be able to fully unfold them in the end? Does this scene with Elsa, Olaf and the “heart-shaped” force field have something to do with Anna when her forces erupt accidentally? |
| 187 | * {{Jossed}}. Anna does not regain her memories or any locked-away powers. |
| 188 | |
| 189 | [[WMG: Elsa was trying to use her powers against the ocean because...]] |
| 190 | * She's training herself. Elsa would make a good triathlete - cycling in ''Frozen Fever'', running in both ''Frozen and the ''Frozen II'' trailers, and perhaps she will swim in the sequel, too. |
| 191 | * She's stranded on an island and is trying to escape. In fact, she could be on a beach in the south of the country Iceland, called ''Reynisfjara''. It is known for its deadly waves, yet Elsa is trying to conquer them to go home. |
| 192 | * She's trying to prove to herself that she could have saved their parents from the shipwreck if she was there and had mastered control over her powers. |
| 193 | * Elsa has to work hard in order to gain the acceptance of the Nokk horse. The scene when Elsa falls with her ice is followed by her battling with the creature's turbulence until she is allowed to rise back up to the surface. |
| 194 | * Mostly {{jossed}}. She's trying to reach Ahtohallan in order to find out more about her magic, although doing so does involve working to gain the acceptance of the Nokk. |
| 195 | |
| 196 | |
| 197 | [[WMG: Anna will find out that her memories of Elsa's powers were erased]] |
| 198 | |
| 199 | Either by gaining it back or some other means. Naturally, she will be upset with the trolls as well as blaming herself for her strained relationship with Elsa and might do something drastic (either TimeTravel to change things or something else) to make it up to the latter. Part of the plot will involve Anna learning to forgive herself for what happened to her the last time she and Elsa played together as children if this happens. |
| 200 | * {{Jossed}}. The erasure of Anna's memories is not acknowledged in the movie. |
| 201 | |
| 202 | [[WMG: There will be new characters loosely based upon another Hans Christian Andersen story]] |
| 203 | |
| 204 | Obviously, the Little Mermaid is out of the question for this theory, so possibilities could include ''The Nightingale'', ''The Shadow'', ''The Steadfast Tin Soldier'', ''The Wild Swans'', ''The Swineherd'', ''The Elf Mound'', etc. |
| 205 | * {{Jossed}}. None of the new characters appear to have any connection to another Andersen story. |
| 206 | |
| 207 | [[WMG: Going off the above, Elsa will meet the original Snow Queen.]] |
| 208 | |
| 209 | This will result in either a rivalry between them if the Snow Queen is evil, or Elsa seeing the Snow Queen as a mother figure or as an inspiration. |
| 210 | * If there is an evil magical queen in the sequel, her look will be based on [[http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/File:Concept_by_Bill_Schwab_2.jpg a discarded]] [[http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/disney/images/0/0d/Frozen_Elsa_concept-early.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150430223557 design for Elsa]] [[http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Elsa_the_Snow_Queen/Gallery#Original_.22Bad_Elsa.22_Concept_art when she was still the bad guy.]], because it would be cool and a nice continuity nod. |
| 211 | * The next villain could also be The Summer Witch with the garden from the original 'The Snow Queen', who'll kidnap Anna. |
| 212 | * It will be up to Elsa to rescue her, meeting a band of plucky side characters along the way. |
| 213 | * {{Jossed}}. No other snow-powered characters appear in the film. |
| 214 | |
| 215 | [[WMG: The Existence of Other Magical People]] |
| 216 | |
| 217 | The sequel may feature the discovery of other people with magic powers like Elsa. These magic-wielding people live in some sort of secret, isolated society until their existence is made known to the sisters, and they decide to visit them, maybe because they are asking for Elsa’s help, or maybe just so that Elsa can meet people with magic like herself. These people will live far up north near a volcano (because at D23 2017, a video showed the research team taking a trip to Lapland and to Iceland inside a volcano. |
| 218 | ** There may be lots more focus on the four seasons and elements in Frozen II. |
| 219 | *** It’s possible there are only 4 magic users in existence (Elsa being one of them), one for each element/season, and they have not only the ability to manipulate their element but also change the seasons. It could be like this: |
| 220 | *** Spring = Earth |
| 221 | *** Summer = Fire |
| 222 | *** Autumn = Wind |
| 223 | *** Winter = Water/Ice |
| 224 | ** The villain may be a magic-wielding man of some sort, and the climax will be a battle of the elements between Elsa and the villain. |
| 225 | |
| 226 | * In the Broadway show, there are characters called the Hidden Folk who take the place of the trolls. They may make a return in the sequel. |
| 227 | * Mostly jossed. We meet people called the Northuldra who are in touch with the magical spirits, but don't have magic powers themselves. The other magic users besides Elsa that we do meet are not humans, although their magic corresponds to the classical elements. The are four others, including a water spirit that's not Elsa. Elsa's magic turns out to be more of water+air, being one half of the fifth spirit, which bridges magic and humanity. |
| 228 | |
| 229 | [[WMG: We will get a new [[{{Snowlems}} snowlem]]]] |
| 230 | |
| 231 | It's become clear that Elsa's snow characters only come to life due to some strong emotion she has when she makes them. Olaf from her sisterly love for Anna, Marshmallow from her desire for solitude and the Snowgies from her fun-loving side. During her adventures, she will probably create a new one. |
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| 233 | \ |
| 234 | One rumour going is that Olaf will get a love interest, he would probably ask Elsa to make a snowwoman for him, but it never comes to life. If she and Olaf adventure with Hans and his own animal companion, there will be a point where they make a snowman as a means of bonding. It should be noted that this snowwoman wouldn't be made from any romantic feelings, but a sense of empathy and compassion Elsa would show someone she's supposed to only hate. If the snowwoman comes to life, Hans and Elsa have a brief dispute about how the snow characters come to life and if she planned this. [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Olaf isn't clueless as to what this is reminiscent of]]. This snowgirl would remain with them on their adventure, being clueless about Olaf's crush on her, asking Hans for some help in getting her interest. Later, Anna finds out and questions what happened, Elsa insists that she and Hans are just friends now. The snowgirl says [[ShipperOnDeck she thought Hans was her boyfriend the whole time]]. |
| 235 | * {{Jossed}}. No new snow creatures appear, though the Snowgies and Marshmallow do appear in the ice palace with Olaf in the end-credits scene. |
| 236 | |
| 237 | [[WMG: A comical subplot or RunningGag has Olaf wanting to know where babies come from]] |
| 238 | |
| 239 | At one point, Olaf will question how humans make other humans without magic and a mother tries to explain it involves a man and a woman "working together" before something causes her to stop. Because of it, Olaf basically wants someone to give him TheTalk. Either he asks Anna and Kristoff during a possible period where their relationship is on the rocks or, during a possible EnemyMine situation, he asks Elsa and Hans. Regardless of which pair, [[HilarityEnsues awkwardness and uncomfortable attempts to explain to him occur]]. |
| 240 | * {{Jossed}}. This is not one of the questions Olaf asks about in the film. |
| 241 | |
| 242 | [[WMG: Honeymaren and Ryder are Iduna's parents.]] |
| 243 | * Another interesting theory is that Honeymaren and Ryder are Iduna's parents- they do share resemblance with Iduna. Something may have caused them to remain in a youthful form. The Northuldra leader could have been their father, and Yelana could be their closest cousin. Perhaps they were capable of powerful magic and kept relatively hidden as Northuldra until someone entered the mist 34 years later. Honeymaren is drawn to Elsa due to her similarity to Iduna. |
| 244 | |
| 245 | ** Both Iduna and Honeymaren say ''Only Ahtohallan knows'' in the situations when they do not have the answers for Elsa. Also Honeymaren recognises "All Is Found" and sings a few lines from the lullaby with Elsa. She is also the one to recognise the patterns on Iduna's shawl and acknowledge it as being from one of the Northuldra's oldest families- her family. |
| 246 | |
| 247 | ** Iduna's blue eyes and curly hair are traits that may have come from Ryder. Plus her inquisitiveness, genuine kindness, and love of reindeer! |
| 248 | |
| 249 | *** Jossed, according to WordOfGod, they're siblings. Plus their reaction to the sun suggests that they've never seen it before, indicating that they were born after the mist closed off the forest. |
| 250 | |
| 251 | [[WMG: Choosing a name for Frozen 2]] |
| 252 | |
| 253 | We have little idea of the real plot of Frozen 2, but it is known that the sequel will not exactly be titled Frozen 2. It may, however, be left as the stylised ''Frozen II ''. Here are some ideas for the film's full name (remember these are just for fun!): |
| 254 | The first seven feature the Danish, Norwegian and Icelandic languages. |
| 255 | %% Anyone who fluently speaks these languages, please correct if needed! |
| 256 | * Frozen Fantastisk (Fantastic Frozen) |
| 257 | * Få Frozen (Get Frozen) |
| 258 | * Flere Frozen (More Frozen) |
| 259 | * Frozen, om efteråret (Frozen, in autumn) |
| 260 | * Frozen Vegvísir (Icelandic, refers to the snowflake-like compass of the film poster) |
| 261 | * Frozen II: Til Nordøst!(Danish meaning To North East!) The north-east (top-right) diamond on the Frozen II poster represents an aspect that has not really been covered in the Frozen franchise: ''giants''! |
| 262 | * Frozen II: Gå nordpå! (Go North, in the words of Grand Pabbie the troll) |
| 263 | * Frozen II: It's Freezing! |
| 264 | * Fondly Frozen |
| 265 | * Frozen: Freezing Forest |
| 266 | * Frozen in Autumn |
| 267 | * A Frozen Forage |
| 268 | * Frozen II: Reynisfjara to The Enchanted Forest |
| 269 | * Frozen II: Climate Catastrophe |
| 270 | * Frozen II: The Voyagers |
| 271 | * Frozen Wanderers |
| 272 | * Frozen II: Worldwide Wanders |
| 273 | * Frozen Freedom |
| 274 | * Frozen Fearless |
| 275 | * Frozen Fragments (or Fragments of Frozen) |
| 276 | * Frozen Fireworks |
| 277 | * Frozen Fireflies |
| 278 | * Frozen & Fossilized |
| 279 | * Fleecy Frozen |
| 280 | * Faithfully Frozen |
| 281 | * Frozen Freewheeling |
| 282 | * Frozen Figures |
| 283 | * Frozen II: Icy Ideas |
| 284 | * Frozen II: Arendelle and the Northuldra |
| 285 | * Freezing |
| 286 | * Frozen: Freeze-Thaw |
| 287 | * Frozen Inferno (Assuming the presence of fire-based magic or even a fire-breathing dragon) |
| 288 | * Frozen II: Letting Go |
| 289 | * Frozen: Freedom All Around! (Referring to lyrics in Let it Go "Frozen fractals all around!") |
| 290 | * Frozen: Strange Magic |
| 291 | * Frozen in Time |
| 292 | * Frozen: It's Freezing! |
| 293 | * Frozen: Fuego! (Spanish for Fire) |
| 294 | * Frozen II: Icy Giants |
| 295 | * Frozen II: The Elemental Extraordinaire |
| 296 | * Frozen Fusion |
| 297 | * Frozen II: Icy Life |
| 298 | * Frozen II: Finding Ahtohallan |
| 299 | * Frozen II: Fractals of Arendelle |
| 300 | * Frozen II: Beyond Arendelle |
| 301 | * Frozen II: The Secret of Arendelle (which has been confirmed to be the Italian title) |
| 302 | ** Mostly Jossed. It's simply called ''Frozen II'', at least in the original English, although [[TheForeignSubtitle some translations have a subtitle depending on the region]], including the Italian dub being called ''Frozen II: The Secret of Arendelle''. |
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| 306 | [[/folder]] |
| 307 | |
| 308 | [[folder:Confirmed]] |
| 309 | |
| 310 | |
| 311 | [[WMG: A majority of the [[SequelGoesForeign sequel]] will not take place in Arendelle]] |
| 312 | |
| 313 | According to the directors of Frozen- WordOfGod - "the sisters will go far out of Arendelle". This may imply that they will travel out of their hometown, or also be suggesting that ''Frozen 2'' will be better and be more exciting than ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen|2013}}''. |
| 314 | |
| 315 | The main plot could take place in the Southern Isles, which was briefly shown in ''Frozen Fever''. A great majority of the film will show the kingdom as a {{Foil}} to Arendelle, with poverty, strict laws and people who have an extreme dislike of royalty because of their king. At best, the beginning and end will feature Arendelle. |
| 316 | * Mostly confirmed. A majority of the sequel does take place outside of Arendelle, although not in the Southern Isles. |
| 317 | |
| 318 | [[WMG: Agnarr's father, was behind the problems the characters face in the sequel]] |
| 319 | Agnarr tells a story to little Elsa and Anna about how he went to an elemental forest, but 'something terrible' happened, and he was sent back to Arendelle. There was a meeting between the new kingdom of Arendelle and the Northuldra, but something enraged the elemental spirits of the Enchanted Forest. Ever since then, there has been an imbalance between the elements of earth, wind, fire and water. This "terrible" thing may have partly been his fault. |
| 320 | * Confirmed. Runeard was afraid of the Northuldra and so attacked them, angering the spirits. |
| 321 | |
| 322 | [[WMG: Kristoff will propose to Anna.]] |
| 323 | Sven the reindeer and Anna are Kristoff's world at this point in the story. He still sees Anna as a DamselInDistress, but he acknowledges her fierce nature too. |
| 324 | * And Anna will reject it! Or at least Kristoff will think that, if she misinterprets his quirky proposal. The movie has been confirmed to feature a "Reindeers Are Better Than People" reprise - and we can be pretty sure only Anna, as the person who got him to realize humans aren't so bad after all in the first movie, can disappoint Kristoff like that. |
| 325 | ** Kristoff could become an AgitatedItemStomping, which puts Anna off. That might be why only Olaf travels with Anna in the ice boat (presumably made by Elsa- it has her snowflake logo on it) to find Elsa, who has already set off into the unknown lands. |
| 326 | * Mainly confirmed. Kristoff does propose, although Anna accepts it, and the reason why she and Kristoff got separated is that he left to set up a surprise Northuldra-style proposal ritual, without ever telling Anna or Elsa where he was going. |
| 327 | |
| 328 | [[WMG: Many revelations of the sisters Elsa and Anna will occur.]] |
| 329 | |
| 330 | It has been stated that the plot of ''Frozen 2'' "will be bigger and more epic than the first one". Elsa and Anna will most likely stay as the major characters in the film. Whatever journeys the sisters will take, whether together or apart, it will amaze many viewers. |
| 331 | * Confirmed. The sisters are still the main characters, and we find out new things about them, mainly [[spoiler:that they are the bridge between magic and humanity, that they are half-Northuldran from Iduna's side, and that Anna is a leader in her own right.]] |
| 332 | |
| 333 | [[WMG: The main characters travel to Iceland or the north of Norway as part of their new journey.]] |
| 334 | |
| 335 | * In the second full trailer, Agnarr says that the place is “as north as we can go” (in Norway, as Arendelle is located quite far south). It is called the Enchanted Forest- Iduna lived here until she and the prince were separated from the Northuldra by the purple mist. |
| 336 | |
| 337 | In ''Frozen II'', the sisters, along with Olaf, Kristoff and Sven will go on travels that are "far out of Arendelle". This is most likely to be another the place (with a pseudonym like Arendelle) in Europe, but it could be anywhere. |
| 338 | From the Icelandic compass-based "snowflake" featured in the ''Frozen II'' poster, ''and'' the beach at the start of the trailers, Icelandic people have recognised the beach as the Reynisfjara region in the south of Iceland. Perhaps Iceland is one of the places that the characters discover. |
| 339 | ** The sisters’ parents (Agnarr and Iduna) could have been living there since their ship sank. |
| 340 | * Mostly confirmed. Technically the place they go isn't Iceland or the north of Norway, but it's a fantasy equivalent of that more northern region. [[spoiler:Iduna grew up there and Agnarr visited once, but neither return as adults.]] |
| 341 | |
| 342 | [[WMG: The main characters go to an autumnal land, which may or may not be located near Reynisfjara Beach in Iceland or inspired by it (probably taking a fictional name like Arendelle). Part of the action starts in Arendelle, but it moves quickly to the Enchanted Lands, and into the unknown...]] |
| 343 | * Mostly confirmed. Part of the action starts in Arendelle, and moves quickly to the Enchanted Lands, which are autumnal, although it seems that's just because that's the time of year, rather than an inherent feature of the land. |
| 344 | |
| 345 | [[WMG: The reason for Elsa's powers will finally be explained in the sequel]] |
| 346 | The official [[WordOfGod word of Jennifer Lee]] of how Elsa got her powers may satisfy for now, but the idea may be put aside. |
| 347 | * Maybe her parents visited a good sorcerer who blessed them to have a child with a special ability (which turned out to be ice powers). |
| 348 | Hopefully, ''Frozen II'' shall explain Elsa's powers! |
| 349 | * According to the official English synopsis, Elsa wants answers on how she was born with her powers, causing her and Anna to set off with Kristoff, Sven and Olaf. |
| 350 | * Elsa's powers could get taken away (or weakened) by Anna, who has since accumulated plenty of knowledge of magic. The sisters seem quite separated in the ''Frozen II'' trailers; who knows, this could be a reason for that. |
| 351 | * Or perhaps Elsa's powers get weakened by the other elemental forces that she faces on this journey. For example, Elsa trying her best to settle the troublesome pink flames that appear in the first two trailers. |
| 352 | * Mainly confirmed. The sequel retcons the WordOfGod explanation about the planet alignment and explains Elsa's powers as [[spoiler:being a gift from the nature spirits because of the relationship between Iduna and Agnarr. More specifically, a war broke out between Arendelle and Iduna's people, the Northuldra (which is later revealed to have been Agnarr's father's fault). Agnarr was hurt, Iduna saved him despite him being on the enemy side, and the two later fell in love. The spirits decided it fitting to give them two children, Elsa and Anna, who would be the bridge between magic and humanity. There is also a point when Elsa's powers weaken, when she has a DisneyDeath, although neither Anna nor the other elemental forces are responsible for it.]] |
| 353 | |
| 354 | [[WMG: Elsa will get some ShipTease in the sequel, but will '''not''' end up with a canon LoveInterest.]] |
| 355 | |
| 356 | She may appear with Hans, and with a new female character (maybe the villain?), but she will not "end up" with anyone. So the people who want her to end up with Hans, the people who want her to not end up with Hans, the people who want her to end up with a girl, and the people who want her to stay single can all get something out of it and not be entirely disappointed. |
| 357 | * Confirmed. Elsa does not end up with a canon LoveInterest and does have a ShipTease with [[spoiler:a character named Honeymaren. They bond over a campfire, and there's a scene near the end where they hold hands and Honeymaren asks Elsa to leave Arendelle to live with her and the other Northuldra, which Elsa accepts.]] |
| 358 | |
| 359 | [[WMG: Alternatively, romantic love might not be brought up as an idea surrounding Elsa in the sequel.]] |
| 360 | ** One of the songwriters implied to journalists that Elsa isn't going to have a love interest in the sequel. While that's technically compatible with this theory, it's likely that if this was going to be a major theme then anything connected with it would probably be kept tightly under wraps due to being a major spoiler. |
| 361 | ** The fire mentioned in the previous WMG entry could instead be from Anna if she really does have repressed fire powers. Remember the first film shows that family love is as strong as romantic love... |
| 362 | * Confirmed. Romance is not brought up as an idea surrounding Elsa in the sequel, although the fire doesn't come from Anna, either. |
| 363 | |
| 364 | |
| 365 | [[WMG: A voice actor from a more adult show will lend their voice to a character]] |
| 366 | A noticeable trend in animation aimed at families recently. [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Seth MacFarlane]] played a mouse in ''WesternAnimation/{{Sing}}'', [[WesternAnimation/SouthPark Trey Parker]] played a character in ''Despicable Me 3'' and [[WesternAnimation/AquaTeenHungerForce Dave Willis]] uses the voice of Carl in ''Steven Universe''. We might get one for fun. |
| 367 | * Maybe a comedian will join the casting too. Their dialogue would be made suitable for younger audiences, of course. |
| 368 | * There has been news that " Evan Rachel Wood and Sterling K. Brown lend their voices to two characters in Disney’s “Frozen 2,” the sequel to the 2013 smash hit. Idina Menzel, Kristen Bell, and Josh Gad are returning to reprise their roles as Elsa, Anna, and Olaf, respectively. |
| 369 | * At D23 Expo 2019, it was confirmed that Evan Rachel Wood from ''Series/Westworld'' voices Iduna and Sterling K. Brown from ''Series/ThisIsUs'' voices Mattias. Kristen Bell also has a role on ''Series/TheGoodPlace'' |
| 370 | |
| 371 | [[WMG: We will learn more about King Agnarr and Queen Iduna; their lives before Anna and Elsa.]] |
| 372 | |
| 373 | * There have been suggestions of their backstory being explored in ''Frozen II'', and sneak-peaks of the book ''The Art of Frozen II'' also seems to feature the two characters from the teaser trailer - they cannot ''just'' be bystanders. |
| 374 | |
| 375 | * They may have also had to overcome adversity like Elsa and Anna, but more to do with the elements rather than their relation to each other. |
| 376 | |
| 377 | * Agnarr was born royal; he was supposedly the prince of Arendelle. Iduna was from a Sami background; in the Frozen Broadway adaptaion, she mentions that she is " a child of the 'Northern Nomads' ". |
| 378 | * Confirmed. We see flashbacks to their childhood. Agnarr was born Arendellian royal, and Iduna was born Northuldra, the Northuldra being the FantasyCounterpartCulture to the Sami like Arendelle is to Norway. They also are confirmed to be the two young characters from the teaser trailer. |
| 379 | |
| 380 | [[WMG: We will also learn about what actually happened on the parents' voyage.]] |
| 381 | |
| 382 | * The film will be released in November 2019- six years after the original film ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen|2013}}''. It also happens to be six years in-universe (the "Three Years Later" subtitle in ''Frozen'' before the coronation scene, and a TimeSkip of three years after Frozen) since the parents' ship sank. |
| 383 | ** It would be even better if [[TheBusCameBack they return alive]], or at least one of them to tell the tale -[[https://thedisinsider.com/2018/06/27/queen-iduna-to-have-a-pivotal-role-in-frozen-2/ this suggests who that may be.]] That could fulfill an IWillFindYou hope of Elsa's, which may lead to a heartwarming reunion. |
| 384 | |
| 385 | * [[http://www.mtv.com/news/2236490/frozen-director-debunks-major-disney-conspiracy-theory/ Though Frozen director Chris Buck has "confirmed" that Anna and Elsa's parents are Tarzan's parents too, he also made it clear that he didn't expect fans to take it seriously.]] However, the idea that they did not die at sea (or die at all) would be rather intriguing. |
| 386 | * They might have passed away in that terrible storm, as suggested in ''Frozen'', and may return as a spirit form to Elsa and Anna, or as a silhouette conjured by the trolls (if the former, it'd be borrowing a page from the musical). This serves as an important reminder of how familial love is the most special of all. |
| 387 | * Perhaps Agnarr and Iduna had nothing to do with Rapunzel's wedding; they were just going to Iceland (no, not the shop... although that slogan #Power of Frozen may link to the film..! In fact, Iceland Foods are promoting Frozen II in some of their products with #magicoffrozen; they even themed their first Christmas ad for 2019 for Frozen II :) |
| 388 | * Another possibility is that their deaths weren't an accident. Someone might have expected a storm that could prove fatal for voyagers on the North Sea. The day that Agnarr and Iduna left might have been specifically chosen. If a new character such as Hans' father becomes the sequel's BigBad, he may have ordered their deaths for criticizing his rule when they showed up for possible trade negotiations, thus being the one truly responsible for all the mess that's occurred since their deaths. |
| 389 | * The parents will almost certainly be more significant in the Frozen sequel, and it would be marvellous if they were to return- also increasing the likeliness for the root cause of Elsa's ice powers to be revealed. Agnarr and Iduna have just been put aside for now, but they're shown in Olaf's Frozen Adventure through a flashback memory, suggesting they play a key role in the story. |
| 390 | ** Frequently, [[WellDoneDaughterGal Elsa will reflect on her position as Arendelle's Queen]] and question if she's doing a good job. At the same time, [[WideEyedIdealist she will wonder]] if her mama and papa are still alive. Even when they made a mistake, they did so with good intentions. Elsa wants to discover where they could be, and hopefully discover them alive. A dramatic change in Anna's character results in her doubting this strongly, however, and she becomes extremely upset as Elsa reminds her of them. |
| 391 | ** Elsa, albeit rejected by Anna, stays resilient and continues to reign happily over Arendelle, whilst dreaming of her parents to return. Elsa starts to learn where their parents went and discover the secrets of her own castle. |
| 392 | ** The group travel to an autumnal land, near to where Elsa decides to run over the sea, in her hope of finding her parents. |
| 393 | ** Maybe the couple were washed up on the shore of a European country (most likely further north of Norway or in Iceland, but possibly Denmark, Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, France, Spain or Portugal), which would likely have a fictional name. They may have been separated; perhaps Iduna endured better than Agnarr thanks to her better experience with nature (and possibly her magic powers). Agnarr takes longer to recover, and Iduna does her best to find some help. |
| 394 | * HistoryRepeatsItself- another dangerous situation with the elements. Agnarr and Iduna once ran away from a blazing fire that trapped the Enchanted Forest; they also escape the shipwreck from a storm at sea, 28 years later! |
| 395 | ** She meets some of the new characters. They could be from the Northuldra, like Iduna, and are slightly older than Elsa. By following their way of life, even within poverty, Iduna (and Agnarr, when he recovers) thoroughly acknowledge the family and the citizens of this awe-inspiring place. |
| 396 | ** It turns out the Frozen II trailers do feature a girl who is AmbiguouslyBrown. Perhaps she meets Elsa, Anna, and company. Or maybe she's Iduna and will return to Arendelle! |
| 397 | ** If it is not Hans, perhaps Anna lunges the sword at a new character at the end of the Frozen II teaser. She regrets this decision deeply, because of ImmediateSelfContradiction. In ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen|2013}}'', Anna puts her hand up to block Hans' sword from harming Elsa, and she feels even more guilty when the victim does the same as what she did in the first film, especially if they turn out to have been taking care of her parents and she discovers this. |
| 398 | ** Agnarr and Iduna eventually reveal that they were monarchs of the Royal Family of Arendelle previously. They tell many stories of Elsa and Anna. |
| 399 | ** About 6 years since leaving, they will both return to Arendelle, thanking and/or blessing the family they spent those years with. Or perhaps Elsa, Anna, Kristoff, Olaf and Sven find their destination, which leads them to find Agnarr and Iduna, alive and well. |
| 400 | ** The girl becomes a penpal of Elsa and Anna or close ally to the group. |
| 401 | ** They come back to plenty of great surprises: an enthusiastic Elsa, who is extremely ecstatic about her parents returning alive and well. She also has a long story to tell..! Anna, on the other hand, takes some convincing before seeing her parents for real. At this point, she is {{Fainting}}. |
| 402 | ** Perhaps Anna has planned her wedding to Kristoff... now her parents are last-minute guests! |
| 403 | * Nevertheless, the sisters are both overjoyed by their parents' miraculous return. The sisters' relationship with their parents prior to the voyage will be explored further in the Frozen sequel. |
| 404 | ** Disney likes orphans, for story reasons. Even when the main character has a living parent, the story inevitably has some pretext that takes the character on some journey without them. Bringing Anna and Elsa’s parents back could present a challenge to the sisters' independence. They would no longer be the Queen and Princess of Arendelle thrust into adulthood with all the responsibilities that come with ruling a kingdom, and their parents are still protective of them. A storyline possible they could revolve around the family attempting to reconcile the sisters' growth into adults and the parents' desire to shelter them. Or maybe the sisters, now used to having more power, realize they don't like all the decisions their parents made and there are still disagreements. |
| 405 | ** Alternatively, since it would be unlikely if they tried to backtrack and just redo Agnarr's coronation, Elsa stays as queen for life, and her parents find it chucklesome and amazing to see their daughter is grown up and a happy ruler of the kingdom now. They are very proud of all the challenges being overcome by everyone. |
| 406 | |
| 407 | * [[spoiler: Partially confirmed. The parents were intending to travel across the Dark Sea to get to the river Ahtohallan- a river full of memory, potentially holding the answers to Elsa's magic, and lots more. The shipwreck is discovered nearby, as the sisters go on their journey north in Frozen II.]] |
| 408 | |
| 409 | [[WMG: Kristoff is unsure of Anna's swordsmanship skills, and tries to divert her into something safer.]] |
| 410 | |
| 411 | Just as Jonathan Groff, the voice actor of Kristoff, reveals one of his lines “What are you going to do with that?”, he is possibly referring to Anna with the sword. |
| 412 | * Partially confirmed. Kristoff is unsure of her sword skills, and that is what his "What are you going to do with that?" line is referring to. He does not, however, try to divert her. |
| 413 | |
| 414 | [[WMG: There will be lots of new magical aspects introduced or built upon.]] |
| 415 | The books would tease the idea of something magical, only to reveal it is wasn't real (ghosts, fire magic, etc.). Some other kind of magic unrelated to Elsa's powers or the trolls will be introduced. If Hans returns, it might be associated with him or the Southern Isles. If the above idea of Hans thinking Anna and Elsa are hallucinations go, it's probably because he encountered this otherworldly magic in the form of some being, either someone AmbiguouslyHuman or something like a talking animal, and either it only occurs around him to the point of being MaybeMagicMaybeMundane (either its real or just in his head) or it eventually reveals itself to others, proving it was RealAfterAll. Either way, it will probably play a role in Hans potentially doing a HeelFaceTurn and aid the sisters. |
| 416 | * Alternately, these hallucinations could be fragments of Hans' mind coming out, and soon enough, he discovers that he has RealityWarping powers. However, this goes haywire when he accidentally loses control over it, creating a far bigger crisis than Elsa's EndlessWinter, one that has the potential to end all of reality if Hans loses total control over his powers. It's now the job of the sisters to help him. |
| 417 | * Some sort of giants, whether literal, spiritual or metaphorical will be a new magical aspect. |
| 418 | * Mostly confirmed. We find out more about magic, including Elsa's, and are introduced to four elemental spirits, including earth giants. |
| 419 | |
| 420 | [[WMG:The Frozen sequel could explore a completely new place in the world (under a fictional name).]] |
| 421 | Somewhere that has a warm, exotic climate in Europe or Asia. Maybe Elsa will discover the location of her parents (who may have survived the shipwreck)! |
| 422 | ** Most Confirmed, partly {{Jossed}}. The film explores entirely new locations, although none are tropical. [[spoiler: They do find the 6-year-old shipwreck of Agnarr and Iduna, though. Their passing is only assumed, but not confirmed.]] |
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| 425 | |
| 426 | !Pre-release Theories |
| 427 | |
| 428 | [[folder:In General]] |
| 429 | |
| 430 | |
| 431 | [[WMG: The teaser trailer is foreshadowing what will happen in Frozen II.]] |
| 432 | * It has been confirmed in the second full trailer that the young boy is Agnarr as a young prince, and the girl is the young Iduna (both confirmed by the book 'The Art of Frozen II'). |
| 433 | * Anna appears to be quite unsettled. Dressing in dark colours clothing vaguely similar to Kristoff's normal attire, and venturing alone seem like unusual moves for the otherwise lively Princess Anna. |
| 434 | ** However, their prologue outfits look much more lively. |
| 435 | * Also in the first trailer, Anna takes the sword from Kristoff and swipes it at the camera, perhaps at someone behind them. Maybe there won't be a real villain, but a rather turbulent side of Anna could give her the role of being a ConflictBall. |
| 436 | * Anna does have a backstory that lends itself well to FaceHeelTurn. A lot of villains, especially Disney villains are ones who either feel inferior to other characters (the Evil Queen, the Wicked Stepmother), jealous of their power (Ursula - who's Triton's sister passed over for the throne in deleted material and a lot of adaptions like the Broadways show, Scar, Jafar, Dr. Facilier, and of course Hans). In ''WesternAnimation/TangledTheSeries'', [[spoiler: Cassandra has a FaceHeelTurn over feeling ignored and being in Rapunzel's shadow.]] She even bonds with [[EvilCounterpart the first movie's villain over having similar issues and there's a whole song about it.]] In the sequel, she may become sick of feeling powerless and being in her sister's shadow, or of her family constantly not believing in her the way she believes in Elsa. Possibly, Hans will show up, either in person or in a dream, and pick at her insecurities before suggesting to her that she should try to seize power forcefully like him. |
| 437 | |
| 438 | [[WMG: The new characters have looked after Agnarr and Iduna since they were lost at sea.]] |
| 439 | |
| 440 | The new Northuldra characters (not including Iduna), that is. |
| 441 | |
| 442 | It has been confirmed that Anna and Elsa's parents (the former King Agnarr and Queen Iduna of Arendelle) are the two new characters seen in the ''Frozen II'' teaser trailer and the 3rd trailer, though these scenes didn't make it to the film. |
| 443 | |
| 444 | * The two are dressed in the same ColorMotif as Agnarr and Iduna; perhaps this hints at the possibility that the parents are still alive there! |
| 445 | ** This is a flashback- Iduna and Agnarr could have gone to the same elemental forest after the shipwreck. Maybe after the shipwreck they attempt to get to their destination on foot. |
| 446 | |
| 447 | |
| 448 | [[WMG: The shorts are foreshadowing what will happen in Frozen II.]] |
| 449 | The shorts are more than just filler with added canon, they are hinting at what will happen. |
| 450 | * In Frozen Fever, Anna says to Elsa that her "best birthday present ever" was "you letting me take care of you". This could be a hint that Anna will be noticeably more protective in Frozen II. |
| 451 | * In Frozen Fever, Elsa's snowball flies to the Southern Isles and crashes into Hans. In the film, our heroes will come to the Southern Isles and she will leave an impact on Hans. |
| 452 | * In Frozen Fever, Kristoff [[TheILoveYouStigma tells Anna he loves her]]. In Olaf's Frozen Adventure, he celebrates an odd troll holiday that makes Olaf whisper to Anna she "doesn't have to settle". In the sequel, their relationship loses its initial spark and they will learn to fix it. |
| 453 | * In Olaf's Frozen Adventure, Elsa and Anna make a good effort to rejoin the world outside their castle. This will be taken farther in the sequel, with the sisters and their friends visiting new lands, such as the Southern Isles. Director Jennifer Lee commented that the characters will go "far out of Arendelle". |
| 454 | * In Olaf's Frozen Adventure, Anna is revealed to have owned a "sorcerer's" cloak and dragon hand puppets. Perhaps there will be actual dragons and a sorcerer who controls them in the sequel. Also, the gang might hear about sorcerers who were wiped out somehow, and the king of the Southern Isles might have had something to do with it. |
| 455 | * In Olaf's Frozen Adventure, Kristoff sings a song about a troll named Flemmingrad, who died while trying to escape from humans. Perhaps the Arendellers might find another troll colony or other magic-wielding beings. |
| 456 | ** The new troll colony might be in the Southern Isles. Possibly the King of the Southern Isles' intense hatred of all things magical and/or his dictatorial rule, making the trolls in the Isles wary of humans. |
| 457 | * In Olaf's Frozen Adventure, Elsa and Anna do some digging into their attic and learn more about their past and realize they had a holiday tradition. In the sequel, they might learn lots more about the castle, their town and beyond. They might also learn more about the past of other characters, such as Kristoff, Hans and the Duke of Weselton. |
| 458 | * In both shorts, Elsa still feels guilty that she and her powers forced Anna into a lonely, isolated life, and also that it worried her parents. It will play an important role, as if she has a fear of her and Anna falling out again, and thinks any arguments between them are automatically her fault. She will finally learn to forgive herself in this sequel. |
| 459 | |
| 460 | [[WMG: The ColorMotif of the main characters' clothing will be altered in some way.]] |
| 461 | |
| 462 | * Anna: Magenta/Dark Purple for Anna - not just because of PrincessesPreferPink, but so some sort of green can be Kristoff's colour instead. Also, pink and green are colours commonly associated with Spring; new life. This could represent some sort of GirlinessUpgrade for Anna. If this occurs to a greater extent (surpassing Elsa's graceful nature) then Anna could experience {{Chickification}}. |
| 463 | ** Or perhaps she will act more mature and her clothing will reflect that. |
| 464 | ** A darker purple for Anna could suggest that she is hiding her previously cheery persona. |
| 465 | ** The Frozen II trailers show Anna in a new costume that includes a dark magenta coat, with the main part of the outfit featuring black and orange. Although magenta is associated with optimism; and orange is associated with such things as sunshine, joy, encouragement, and determination; the darkness in the new ColorMotif suggests that perhaps Anna will deal with even more serious challenges to her determination and optimism than previously. She also may also be dealing with some sort of internal conflict, as orange is also associated with change. |
| 466 | ** Merchandise images and concept art show Anna wearing a cream-yellow dress. |
| 467 | * Elsa: Lighter Blue or Purple will make up most of Elsa's new clothes. Her official new hairstyle will be kept as a surprise (unlike Anna's). |
| 468 | ** The Frozen II trailers confirm Elsa will get at least two new hairstyles, a ponytail and loose hair. Elsa also wears a sky-blue jacket, and a pair of leggings (as part a sort of diving suit) to go on an adventure with! Most of her trailer scenes do show her in light blue. |
| 469 | ** In the first full trailer, Elsa also wears a new nightgown- it is a purple or burgundy coloured dress. |
| 470 | ** New images also show Elsa wearing a lavender coloured dress. She also wears a necklace that looks similar to a necklace that that the new young female character, who is probably her mother Iduna, wears in a piece of concept art as she and Prince Agnarr are shown running away from a forest fire. |
| 471 | |
| 472 | [[WMG: The sisters will have some sort of argument.]] |
| 473 | They already seem to disagree on whether they should face the forces of the unknown together, or whether Elsa should go alone. It looks like Anna eventually got her way- but both sisters have rather different challenges to face. |
| 474 | * The sisters should have arguments, because there's got to be some unresolved stuff between them, and right now it feels like they're just keeping everything in and not wanting to disagree because they're still afraid of rocking the newly built boat of communicating again.\ |
| 475 | There have been subtle hints that Elsa's not that keen on Kristoff ("she thinks you're an idiot" in ''Frozen Fever'' and the expressions of cringe and revulsion in ''Frozen Fever'' and ''Olaf's Frozen Adventure''), and she might have a word or two to say to Anna about rushing into relationships when she's a princess whose marriage is going to have political ramifications for Arendelle, or about raising scenes in the middle of coronation balls, or about being as impulsive as she is in general. I'm sure Anna has a couple of bones to pick, too. Plus all the unprocessed guilt and trauma.\ |
| 476 | And besides, it'd be good for them to be a bit less codependent, learn that it's fine to disagree occasionally and air your thoughts, the relationship still lasts, the love is still there, you won't push family away forever if you have words, arguments and differing opinions are a part of life. I think it'd signify that they're truly getting over all the troubles in their past, it'd normalize the relationship. |
| 477 | * Definitely a lot of potential here - Elsa herself raised a scene in the middle of a coronation ball by closing it down completely (and over not liking what she heard about her sister rushing into a relationship), and Anna ''did'' have a word with her about it... only to [[SorryIFellOnYourFist blame herself when Elsa attacks her over it]] and even for the EndlessWinter. She doesn't even appear angry in the immediate aftermath, just sad, although she would've died if she hadn't jumped out of the way of Elsa's spikes. Elsa seems to have grown better at handling situations she doesn't like, especially if the sequel teaser, where she displays a new tenacity, is anything to go by. Yet progress is rarely instant or linear with personal growth. And Elsa does still struggle with the same internal challenges, with some progress, in the shorts. It's possible that even Anna's patience will be tested. Especially if another character points out that she ''does'' have the right to stand up for herself. Everyone has their limits, and Anna's patience thus far verges on the unrealistic. Although being an AllLovingHero is kind of the point of her character, and she is a Disney Princess, the first ''Frozen'' went for a relatively realistic (for a fairy tale) tone. [[https://www.huffpost.com/entry/frozen-disney-animation-studios-academy_b_4612505 Jennifer Lee and Chris Buck have said they want the sisters to feel like they were "genuine" and "weren't up pedestals."]] She could reach a breaking point in the sequel if Elsa (possibly accidentally) hurts someone again and avoids confronting the problem or acts in a controlling way. Or maybe she gets upset about being isolated and no one telling her why, since that was never resolved. Especially since the big reveal was Elsa trying to hide secret ice powers. Imagine not being allowed out of your home for years for no apparent reason. Imagine then finding out it's because years ago your older sibling accidentally seriously injured you and your family then shut you ''both'' up to protect ''the sibling''.\ |
| 478 | And Anna ''is'' capable of getting angry. She throws that snowball at Marshmallow and punches Hans. She looks kind of angry when Elsa freezes her heart without Anna knowing it was an accident, although it doesn't seem to last, either. And she does finally lose her patience with the unexplained isolation when Elsa shuts down the one-day reprieve early, still without explanation. It seems to be only after the wellbeing of other people besides her becomes affected, but it is still anger, and there does seem to sometimes be a personal element.\ |
| 479 | Meanwhile, it seems they never properly discussed how Anna's relationships could matter. All Elsa said was "You can't marry a man you just met," without elaboration. With the curt way Elsa addressed Hans, a diplomatic representative, this couldn't have signaled any political concern. There's a contrast between the sisters here that has potential to cause disagreement. While Elsa grew up knowing she was valued and important but fearful of messing up to a crippling point where it backfired on both herself and others, Anna grew up believing she's ''not'' that important and that people didn't really care about her, and naturally ends up rather reckless. She cares a lot about other people, but doesn't always realize how consequential her actions can be. Not unlike Elsa's issues, this can be a problem for both her own well-being and for other people. Although she now knows there are people who care about her and has more experience, it'd be more realistic if her progress was gradual and non-linear, like Elsa's. She still may not grasp her own importance and the weight her decisions can have. Kristoff's not going to be the most politically astute choice for a royal. Maybe more than [[WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}} Flynn]] or WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}}, but again, ''Frozen'' likes relative realism. Kristoff may not even be the best choice for ''Anna'', and she may not realize she deserves a choice that makes her happier. This could bother Elsa, who surely realizes Anna's important, and just as Anna could grow frustrated with Elsa's avoidance and controlling behaviour, she herself may grow frustrated with Anna's recklessness. Or even her overbearing side. This may upset her partly because of how Anna's choices could affect others. It also may upset her partly because she cares about Anna just for being Anna, and wants Anna to see her own value and to be careful for her own sake, too, but Anna may find Elsa's behaviour overbearing, especially if Elsa focuses on these reasons instead of the potential effects on other people. It's also just as likely to go the other way, with Anna wants Elsa's mental health to improve for Elsa's own sake- Elsa finding ''Anna's'' behaviour overbearing.\ |
| 480 | They've grown, but realistically, they still shouldn't be perfect, and it seems Disney wants to show that. Some difficulty understanding each other would be expected. It'd be great to see them discuss their issues together. |
| 481 | |
| 482 | [[WMG: Many aspects of the first film will be featured OnceMoreWithClarity]] |
| 483 | What's known about the sequel so far is that it "You understand things better in the first movie after you've seen the sequel." Questions, certain plot holes, characterization... SequelEscalation. |
| 484 | * Here's a quote which hints at the storyline: "the sisters are back in the kingdom of Arendelle. It tells the bigger story about these girls and who they are meant to be." |
| 485 | * The origin of Elsa's powers and how she can create snow life. Plus, if there's anybody out there who have hidden their magical powers out of fear of being labelled as outcasts. ''Frozen II'' is very likely to be based on the question '''How did Elsa get her magic powers?''' |
| 486 | * Why the Duke of Weselton is so against magic and why he seemed eager for Elsa to die. In the TieInNovel ''Across The Sea'', he has a family and is in some way grateful when Elsa ends the heatwave, so he'd realize Elsa isn't a monster should he try to make amends. Perhaps in this film, he asks Elsa and Anna to forgive him for his previous accusations. They do forgive the duke, as long as he tells them more about the people called [[spoiler:the Northuldra]] and how Weselton joined Arendelle long ago. |
| 487 | * Hans' backstory, possibly taken from ''Literature/AFrozenHeart'', showing how abusive his brothers were and how neglectful and unfeeling his father is, possibly through his good brother Lars. This causes Elsa to have a slight MyGodWhatHaveIDone when she realizes she sent Hans to a FateWorseThanDeath. It's not enough to forgive him, but she realizes why he's such a messed up person and consider helping him reform. Should this happen, the sequel can add the popular theory that Elsa knew Hans was about to kill her, admitting she felt she deserved her fate and that's why she didn't react until Anna stepped in. Should this happen, it will cause Hans to start his HeelRealization. |
| 488 | * At least one foreign version of the poster also has a subtitle that translates as "Secrets of Arendelle". |
| 489 | |
| 490 | [[WMG: Anna and Elsa will receive [[CerebusRetcon harsh criticism for their actions in the first film]].]] |
| 491 | |
| 492 | First, there is Elsa turning summer into winter for two days. A very popular belief is that she hasn't fully been forgiven by the kingdom since such weather would have caused livestock and crops to die so soon, causing a brief economic crisis. Perhaps it turns out some of the citizens fear her or still think she's a monster. |
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| 495 | Second, their decision to place a unilateral embargo on Weselton might end up causing more unrest. Not only would trade end, but travel to Weselton would end as well. Perhaps someone in Arendelle had relatives in Weselton who passed away but they were unable to see them in time or go to their funeral in time because travel there would take too long because of the severed ties. They would call their royalty out, saying the actions of one man shouldn't justify ending connections with a whole country or interfere with the lives of people who depend on Weselton for trade. |
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| 498 | Third, sending Hans home. By the time the film starts, trade partners with the Southern Isles will be terrified of what's been happening in a place that would be treated in-universe like we would see someplace like North Korea, stating it all happened "a year ago". When they learn that's when Hans was sent back, they immediately think the sisters might have played a hand in the king's sudden increased wrath and they abruptly cut ties with Arendelle, bluntly stating they should never have sent him back to the man responsible for everything that's wrong with him. Anna, Elsa and Kristoff tell them they have no idea what Hans did, but these people would remain unsympathetic to them out of fear of facing King Westergaard's wrath, stating nothing anyone could ever do would justify sending them to the Southern Isles. |
| 499 | * Bonus points if some of these are characters introduced in comics and books like Queen Marisol of Eldora, King Jonas of Vesterland or the princes Elsa once had to dance with, giving them cameos but also establishing they're truly terrified of King Westergaard, warning the trio of the utter cruelty they personally witnessed in him and to not underestimate how much of a grave threat he poses to others, as the Southern Isles is a highly dangerous and unstable regime waiting to erupt like a volcano any moment. |
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| 501 | |
| 502 | [[WMG:Arendelle is more like Series/{{Smallville}}, while the Southern Isles will be a mix of [[ComicBook/{{Superman}} Metropolis]] and [[ComicBook/{{Batman}} Gotham]]]] |
| 503 | |
| 504 | Since Arendelle has a small town feel to it, given the capital looks more vibrant and open, the Southern Isles will be more cosmopolitan, as the capital city would be the size of New York. The capital would be Metropolis during the day, but when night takes over, it'll look more like Gotham during the night. The Arendellers would be discomforted by the sheer culture shock, since the kingdom is more urbanized. At the end, Olaf, Elsa, Anna and Kristoff will discuss the cultural differences between the two kingdoms and how their home is much better, given the gloom and doom surrounding the Southern Isles, as well as what King Westergaard does on a daily basis. |
| 505 | * {{Jossed}}. The action goes [[spoiler: North, not South. The Southern Isles do not appear at all]]. |
| 506 | |
| 507 | [[WMG: Love will play an important factor like before]] |
| 508 | |
| 509 | ''Frozen'' was a film about familial love, ''Frozen 2'' will expand on this and feature how TheFourLoves end up making people's lives better. |
| 510 | |
| 511 | * Agape, unconditional love: Anna's natural [[AllLovingHero sense of compassion for others]] is tested when she is forced to see Hans in his home country. Seeing him a pathetic and possibly unstable mess, while his family is needlessly callous and more concerned by how Hans' actions make them look than for Anna and Elsa, creates a conflict of emotions she has never felt before. On one hand, she hates him for manipulating her, leaving her to die and almost murdering her sister. On the other hand, it turns out his family is far worse than she knew and his father may be [[HateSink the true evil]] she previously thought Hans to be. This causes our heroes to question how they should react at the inhumane standards he's been living in, and feel a degree of responsibility for sending Hans into them. Ultimately, Anna accepts she just can't hate Hans anymore after what she's learned about him. |
| 512 | * Storge, family love: Anna and Elsa's bond becomes strained, but ultimately through new experiences, the fights are put into perspective, and Elsa finally forgives herself for the past. Meanwhile, Hans realizes his mother and brother Lars were indeed the only good things in his life, despite their love was forcibly limited due to his father's influence, and his desire for love from [[TheSociopath an unfeeling monster]] was a fool's errand. Although his mother will probably be dead, Hans, learning from the sisters, is able to start over with Lars again and the two work together to help make the Southern Isles into a better place after their father's downfall. Likewise, the brothers who abused Hans slowly realize their mother was indeed the positive thing they had in their lives and actually wanted to have them get along with each other, and because of this, the brothers come out stronger after reaffirming their decision to [[CallingTheOldManOut sever their ties with their father.]] |
| 513 | |
| 514 | * Philia, friendship: Hans develops a begrudging friendship with Olaf as they're forced to spend time together. This friendship becomes a positive influence whenever Hans has some doubts about his finding any redemption. Hans also has his animal companion, either Sitron or the suggested "Gorm" character, who acts as a confidant while being the levelheaded one when Hans begins to second guess his actions and show signs of hysteria. Elsa meanwhile acts as a confidant to Kristoff when it looks like his relationship with Anna is on the rocks. |
| 515 | |
| 516 | * Eros, romance: Anna and Kristoff's romance is showing signs of falling apart, likely due to an argument with Elsa putting Anna in a sour mood. They attempt to mend their relationship, only for their attempts to show they have no idea what the problem is. An unlikely source convinces them they need to put everything aside and talk, which ends up reaffirming their love for each other. The Duke of Weselton will mention having a romantic relationship that was interrupted at some point. It might end up being his FreudianExcuse that reveals why he's greedy and hates magic, and bonus points if the King of the Southern Isles played a hand in it. Hans, because compassion is foreign to him, becomes rather clumsy, awkward and unsure when he's around Elsa to the point he CannotSpitItOut. A suspicious Anna, thinking he's planning on seducing Elsa, unintentionally makes him realize he's attracted to her. At first, he denies this and tries to avoid being alone with her, but everyone, [[ObliviousToLove save for Elsa]], realizes he wouldn't be trying to distance himself from her unless there was no ulterior motive. His animal companion and Olaf [[ShipperOnDeck see this as something positive for the two of them]], but Anna [[ShippingTorpedo discourages it]] out of concern for Elsa. However, she changes her mind on this after Hans does a genuinely selfless good deed and realizes her sister [[LoveRedeems is a positive influence on him]] and could end up being right for her. Elsa herself is conflicted on the idea of romance in general, but at the end of the movie, she has developed requited feelings for Hans after forgiving him. |
| 517 | ** Alternatively, Elsa and Hans grow closer, but in a platonic way. The others presume that there is a budding romance between them. Yet Elsa and Hans have simply opened up to the world and love everyone in their lives. |
| 518 | |
| 519 | [[WMG: The sequel will be DarkerAndEdgier, especially if it takes place in the Southern Isles.]] |
| 520 | Frozen dealt with several issues that can be dark for some, such as sisters becoming estranged due to the childhood incident, murderous noblemen trying to take advantage of a crisis for their own political gain, Anna's FourthDateMarriage with Hans and how that didn't work out, and Elsa's insecurities surrounding her magic. |
| 521 | |
| 522 | If the Arendellers go to the Southern Isles, things might be very different than last time, especially if the creators decide to incorporate elements of the TieInNovel ''Literature/AFrozenHeart''. Things that can be discussed by Olaf, Anna, Elsa and Kristoff in the sequel include the massive culture shock they'll experience (especially if the kingdom is urbanized), draconian laws that suppress individual rights, the possibility that they might regret sending Hans back to a terrifying place after learning of his backstory, royals who are not friendly with the commoners and contemptuously look down on them, general hatred of the King of the Southern Isles, and [[DysfunctionalFamily poor familial relations.]] |
| 523 | |
| 524 | * Even if the movie sticks to Arendelle, the muted colour palettes of the teaser show things getting more serious. |
| 525 | |
| 526 | * The title for ''Frozen Fever'' is half green because it deals about Elsa's fever. The title in the poster for ''Frozen II'' is half black on the bottom, which could be symbolic of some more mature/scarier themes. |
| 527 | |
| 528 | [[WMG: The sequel will NOT have a twist villain]] |
| 529 | |
| 530 | One of the chief complaints about Frozen is how Hans was revealed to be the twist villain. Since then, Disney films have followed suit of featuring a character introduced as a friend to the heroes, only to reveal they were EvilAllAlong. This has also been criticized by viewers and critics alike, so the sequel to the film that essentially started the "twist villain" trend will avert it. |
| 531 | * The characters could face obstacles, but not necessarily due to a villain's presence. For example, there will be a brief time in the second act where our heroes are undergoing internal issues and disagreements that happened before they encounter a villain, though they start to overcome these problems before the third act. |
| 532 | * If the king of the Southern Isles is the BigBad, he will be blatant in how cruel he is and at first, it will seem like it tries to subvert the idea he's the BigBad like how some Disney films had a RedHerring character to hide the real villain, only for him to scoff the idea and make it clear that, yes, he's definitely the villain. To further make the case that he is INDEED the villain, the king might be RedAndBlackAndEvilAllOver and wear dark gloves to symbolize the bloodbath and wanton violence he's been ruthlessly perpetrating for years. |
| 533 | * Alternatively, the BigBad would be an evil king with the power of fire, and lead an army to conquer and/or destroy Arendelle. |
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| 536 | |
| 537 | [[WMG: Alternately, the sequel won't involve Hans, his family, or anything else Southern Isles related.]] |
| 538 | |
| 539 | It could, however, involve the characters finding out there are other individuals with powers over a specific thing in nature (e.g. fire-based powers or plant-based powers) because there must be others out there similar to Elsa, yet very different. |
| 540 | |
| 541 | * Maybe a kind sorcerer came to bless couples to have children with a special power. Elsa's story may have been that her parents Agnarr and Iduna went to the sorcerer, and remembered the icy weather of 1816 (which was a ''real'' occurrence, known as 'the year without summer'). They found an unusual beauty in the cold weather, so their first child (Elsa) would have been born in 1817 with icy magic. Their next child (Anna) would have much less noticeable powers, and be born in 1821. |
| 542 | |
| 543 | * Elsa and Anna may discover more magical humans in the sequel. There will definitely be some new characters; maybe possessing magic of some sort. |
| 544 | ** One of these characters is the water horse featured in the official trailers- the Nøkk. |
| 545 | |
| 546 | * The film's plot (vaguely) will further explore the magic of family being so precious. We will see the ''Frozen'' world in the past, present and future. |
| 547 | |
| 548 | [[WMG: Disney is using this film as a way to test out whether a darker, more adventure-oriented animated film will do well.]] |
| 549 | |
| 550 | Disney attempted such films in the 2000s decade, but none of them did very well. A Frozen sequel is going to make a lot of money regardless, so it would be a low-risk way to experiment with something new. |
| 551 | |
| 552 | [[WMG: The story will serve as a "what if"-prologue to the actual ''Snow Queen'' story by H.C. Andersen.]] |
| 553 | My memory of the real ''Snow Queen'' story is hazy right now, but of what I remember, the Snow Queen is a morally ambiguous force of nature residing deep in the forest and rarely shows herself, but she's the one creating winters, cold winds and so on. Some (possible spoilers) rumours of the ending say that [[spoiler:Elsa and Anna will separate, with Elsa taking her place as an elemental power in the forest and Anna becoming queen of Arendelle in her stead.]] My guess is thus that if said ending is true, this will be meant to tie in with the original fairytale, explaining "how" the Snow Queen ended up the powerful and elusive being she is, residing deep in the forest and rarely showing herself. (Although for the sake of the movie, she probably ''will'' show herself for Anna whenever her sister comes to visit.) |
| 554 | * [[spoiler:Elsa also has a new snow-queen like dress]] in the epilogue for Frozen II. |
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| 559 | [[folder:Elsa]] |
| 560 | |
| 561 | [[WMG: Elsa will be TheProtagonist of the sequel.]] |
| 562 | ''Frozen II'' is going to be based around the question: '''How did Elsa get her magic powers?''' |
| 563 | |
| 564 | She's certainly the big BreakoutCharacter. Finally, Elsa can forgive herself, and not be afraid of her sister drifting apart from her, no matter what happens. If any difficulty or cruelty comes her way, she will TurnTheOtherCheek, showing resilience and hope. She is likely to receive more screen time alongside the other characters. |
| 565 | |
| 566 | * Confirmed. |
| 567 | |
| 568 | [[WMG:Elsa will [[BroughtDownToNormal temporarily lose her powers]].]] |
| 569 | |
| 570 | If there will be an antagonist, they are likely to be someone who could be easily outmatched by the Snow Queen, so they take precautions and drain the magic out of her. |
| 571 | * However, if Anna discovers more about magic...then she may just as easily weaken Elsa and remove her powers. |
| 572 | * As proof, Elsa's hair will [[HairColorSpoiler change from platinum blonde to her mother's brunette]]. Her eye colour may also turn brown, since the character who is probably young Iduna from the teaser trailer has brown eyes. Initially, this seems like a blessing. She can finally express her feelings without indoor blizzards! However, the power has dominated her entire life, for better or worse. If she's not the Snow Queen, who is she? She has the urge to find a new identity- this time it will be for the better. If there is also danger coming from political enemies, like the Duke of Weselton or Hans' family, they see this development as a chance to take advantage because there is no threat of being turned into an ice statue when they step out of line. Of course, Elsa manages to rediscover the strength and ingenuity with her friends to save the day and has the magic returned to her. This comes with AnAesop that Elsa is much more than "Snow" and "Queen." |
| 573 | * Stealing her powers would take away the "Snow" part of her identity, but one way for Elsa to lose "Queen" is for normalization to happen in a country other than Arendelle, and people there doubt that Elsa is the "real" Queen Elsa as she lacks her ice magic and blonde hair. |
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| 576 | [[WMG: Elsa will act a bit like Olaf at times!]] |
| 577 | |
| 578 | Since Elsa doesn't fear her powers so much anymore, she can be more fun. One of the directors of ''Frozen'' said "that personality [in Frozen Fever]... you will see in the next one [Frozen II]." (There were different directors for ''Olaf's Frozen Adventure''.) |
| 579 | * In a scene revealed to people at the Annecy Film Festival in France, [[spoiler: Elsa, Anna, Olaf, Kristoff and Sven play charades. Once Elsa hears a strange voice, like the one featured in the 2nd trailer, she pretends that she is tired so that she can listen to the voice alone. Olaf also says that he might go to sleep too and hear a bedtime story from Sven.)]] |
| 580 | |
| 581 | * Olaf the snowman could be Elsa's funny side lots of the time and express many things that would lead Elsa to confuse people if she joked about as queen, even without her snow and ice magic. She might act more like him when in private. |
| 582 | * Before the first accident caused by her powers when she was 8 years old, Elsa may have been a very happy, lively and not-too-serious person. She was rather easily persuaded by Anna to build a snowman. |
| 583 | * The aforementioned characteristics may emerge in Elsa in this new film. In Frozen Fever, Elsa acts like this too, but she is still anxious and tries to 'make everything perfect'. She will truly 'let go' of all those burdens and start to take more inspiration from Olaf in rebuilding her identity. |
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| 585 | [[WMG: There will be a CallBack to Elsa's ice castle, but in a negative light.]] |
| 586 | |
| 587 | Despite the structure's beauty and being the subject of a song about empowerment, Elsa's exile ultimately did very little to lessen her fear and anxiety. The castle was never true freedom, just a new place to run away and hide. By the time of the sequel, Elsa will have realized this. |
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| 589 | On their journey to the north, the characters pass through the surroundings of the North Mountain, on which Elsa's ice palace was built. |
| 590 | |
| 591 | [[WMG: Elsa's anxiety issues will finally be addressed and it's an unlikely source who helps her]] |
| 592 | |
| 593 | As we've seen in all post-film media, Elsa hasn't completely gotten over her fear, doubt and regret. Seeing how Hans himself seems to have an extreme case of it, he might actually be someone who helps her if he starts a HeelFaceTurn. He could tell her about how she makes the same mistake he's been making his whole life, namely obsessing so much on bad things that it ruins any chance of something good happening. The main difference is that she has more than one person in her life who can help her and that their help isn't limited like it was for him and Lars. If she shows regret for her actions, he'd defend her. One example that's been discussed, seeing first hand the kind of evil man the King of the Southern Isles is, but Hans assures her that it was his own fault for letting fear and obsession get the better of him and she had no way of knowing what his father is like. This event would not only help Elsa learn to "let it go" but also pave the way to forgiving Hans. |
| 594 | |
| 595 | [[/folder]] |
| 596 | |
| 597 | [[folder: King Agnarr and Queen Iduna]] |
| 598 | |
| 599 | [[WMG: Queen Iduna will return as an important AscendedExtra in Frozen II, leading a NonProtagonistResolver plotline]] |
| 600 | |
| 601 | "Anna and Elsa probably wouldn't succeed in this journey if not for all their mother did for them." (Quoted by director Jennifer Lee in the ''Art of Frozen II'' book) |
| 602 | There have been speculations that [[https://thedisinsider.com/2018/06/27/queen-iduna-to-have-a-pivotal-role-in-frozen-2/ Queen Iduna will have a major role]] in the Frozen sequel- she will fully resolve the problems of the story. |
| 603 | * [[spoiler:Iduna owns a shawl which features the 4 elements and a 5th spirit too, she probably was one of the Northuldra. Yelana, the elder leader of the Northuldra, also has a very similar shawl- could she be Iduna's mother (Elsa and Anna's grandmother?)]] |
| 604 | * When Honeymaren studies the shawl, she recognises it as one belonging to a Northuldra. When news that the prince (King Agnarr) had safely escaped from the forest, they realised that a Northuldra- Iduna- must have saved him.]] |
| 605 | |
| 606 | * Queen Iduna, the mother of Elsa and Anna, had a RagsToRoyalty story, since she was "a child of the Northern Nomads" (as quoted in the Broadway version), and is probably one of the Northuldra explored in Frozen II ,who may represent those of Sami origin. In the teaser trailer, a girl who may be Iduna ''before'' she becomes royal also wears the [[ColorMotif colour purple]] - is this SymbolMotifClothing hinting that she may have an unexplored magical ability? |
| 607 | ** Her crown also resembles small leaf shapes- and lots of Frozen II seems to take place in an autumnal landscape. She may not have had autumnal powers, but likely was associated with the forest that Agnarr tells a story about at the beginning of the film. They are extremely likely to be the "new" characters who appear in the teaser trailer of ''WesternAnimation/FrozenII''. |
| 608 | |
| 609 | * Iduna also appears for a few seconds the first full ''Frozen II'' trailer, and may have been in the teaser, too, since there's also a character in the first one who may be a younger version of her. The second full trailer features her more prominently. |
| 610 | * King Agnarr may also return, but with a different purpose than Iduna. He regrets his decision to isolate Elsa and Anna, and he will co-operate with the other characters and settle the issue of the elements. |
| 611 | * The sisters may separate once again, especially if they disagree on whether their parents are alive (i.e. Elsa thinks so; Anna thinks otherwise. |
| 612 | * Iduna has characteristics that link more closely to Elsa than Anna. Yet she is a greater {{Pacifist}} than both of the sisters. |
| 613 | * Despite her submissive nature, Iduna genuinely cares about the wider community, and she is also good at subtly encouraging Elsa to free her magic one day. |
| 614 | * She should be due to reappear in Frozen II in some form; it may balance the darker themes suggested by the initial trailer, and also as a bit of a positive PlotTwist instead of the one in ''Frozen''..! |
| 615 | * Iduna will be voiced by Evan Rachel Wood, as listed on the IMDB website ''and'' confirmed at D23 Expo 2019. |
| 616 | * Elsa is wearing more purple again, trousers, and a similar necklace to the one the girl in the teaser trailer is wearing. It is likely that this girl is Iduna, and Elsa is following her mother's looks again, like she did in the first act of ''Frozen''. |
| 617 | |
| 618 | [[WMG: Unresolved baggage brought on by the parents' supposed deaths will be explored]] |
| 619 | |
| 620 | Disney has a habit of writing parents into movies, only to them kill them off to drive our main heroes forward into the plot. And while there are a lot of Disney parents that do survive the whole film, a lot of them aren’t Disney Princess parents. And even more interestingly, for most of the Disney Princesses, having a dead parent rarely means much other than sometimes being forced to live with evil stepmothers. There isn’t a push to go avenge the parent, or to fundamentally change as a character after witnessing a parent’s death as what happens in other movies with male leads like Bambi or Simba. In most of the Princess films, at least one, if not both, parents are dead. Of the official princesses, only Aurora, Mulan, Rapunzel, Merida, and Moana have both living parents, and even then it really is only one parent that ever contributes to the plot aside from "they were reunited with their kid at the end of the movie". |
| 621 | ** However, these two Disney parents contribute largely to Frozen despite the lack of screentime. It's likely that they will appear more in Frozen II, at least in flashbacks. Frozen II actually begins with a flashback to Elsa, Anna, Agnarr and Iduna. Agnarr tells his daughters about a scary story that happened to him. The girls are frightened, in a good way, and Iduna laughs light-heartedly. |
| 622 | |
| 623 | Barring any possible twists from future franchise installments, Anna and Elsa are in the dead parents camp. Here, their presumed decease actually contribute a little more to the plot of ''Frozen'' than for most of the others in this camp. If Agnarr and Iduna were alive, then Elsa might not be queen yet. Elsa not being queen means her powers would have never been revealed to the rest of the world, or to Anna. But the late King and Queen contributed more to ''Frozen'' than just kicking the bucket. It can be argued that they shaped the whole movie, as their reactions of closing the gates and limiting contact with the outside world drove the point home to a traumatized eight-year-old that she was dangerous and in danger. How they reacted when they first saw Anna cold and still on that ballroom floor reinforced to Elsa that she screwed up, big time. |
| 624 | ** Perhaps if the parents do return alive, or at least Iduna, they will allow Elsa to continue being the monarch ruling over Arendelle, since it marks how her powers (ice powers ''and'' her resilience)have changed her life for the better. |
| 625 | |
| 626 | Granted, her parents were dealing with things neither of them were particularly prepared for, and they both were still rather young parents who were also likely stressed over keeping their kingdom safe, and after Grand Pabbie's visions, also were facing the possibility that Arendelle might want to harm their first daughter should they find out about her powers. So they acted, with fear guiding their judgement. And fear was the enemy. So much in ''Frozen'' happened because of Agnarr and Iduna. And so far, there has been nothing addressing this in the movie canon. |
| 627 | |
| 628 | The Broadway musical does more in this department. In some of the new songs, like “Monster” and “Dangerous to Dream”, we can see that Elsa still values a lot of what her father thinks of her, despite him being dead. She still looks to both of them for answers they might not even have, but regardless can’t respond or even hear her because, well, they’re gone. And this is where the movie version of ''Frozen'' kinda loses it in the later acts. Because there were some pivotal moments there when Elsa should have been demanding of herself what her father would think of her, or Anna demanding how her parents could do what they did. Or even better, ''what'' they did. Because not once in the movie or either of the animated shorts was Anna given an explanation as to why any of this even happened. That has been left for fanfiction writers to fill up, to the point where I doubt we’ll ever see an actual sitdown between the sisters where Elsa tells Anna exactly what happened: the accident, the separation, why. At this point, it’s just assumed the characters know it because we know it. |
| 629 | |
| 630 | But there is a huge opportunity here that could be touched on with ''Frozen II''. Because Anna and Elsa have a lot of emotional baggage left by their parents’ lives and deaths. Because yeah, the separation was shitty. But you get the sense during the first act that the separation was never meant to be as permanent and drastic as it became. While Agnarr and Iduna might have started it, Elsa took it and ran. At some point her fear became too much for even her parents to help her with, and things were never the same again. But it’s clear that neither Agnarr nor Iduna wanted it to be like that. |
| 631 | |
| 632 | They weren’t bad parents. Misguided and fearful at times, yes. But not bad. And they very easily could have been written bad. They could have been awful to Elsa, forcefully locking her in her room or even the dungeons after what happened to Anna. They could have continually driven home the “you’re nothing but a monster” mentality themselves, rather than leaving it for her to develop on her own out of her guilt. They could have neglected her, mistreated her, hell, they could have even cast her out into the cold, wolf-infested woods and said “Have a nice life, witch!”. But they did not. They remained patient, and loving. They were shown trying to help in whatever way they thought was best. It wasn’t always the best ways, but they didn’t know anything else. And the most obvious time we see this is moments before we never see them again, in their last interaction with Elsa: |
| 633 | -->'''Elsa:''' Do you ''have'' to go? |
| 634 | -->'''Agnarr:''' You'll be fine, Elsa. |
| 635 | |
| 636 | Look at how supportive they were! How trusting and confident they were in their daughter when she couldn’t be in herself. How they both have that warm, reassuring look in their eyes that truly says that they mean it. They know Elsa will be fine. They know she can do this. They love her so much and they know she can do this. |
| 637 | |
| 638 | And just like that, they’re gone. Elsa never hugged them goodbye. Anna only said to them, "See you in two weeks!' |
| 639 | |
| 640 | It will be six years in-universe since the disappearance of the Agnarr and Iduna, but given these two and, Elsa especially, how long they hold onto things that hurt them like that, they will not have moved on as much as it seems. |
| 641 | |
| 642 | Let's start with Anna: |
| 643 | * Anna had the benefit of being able to physically touch her parents. She was able to interact with them in a casual and friendly manner. While they were probably very busy, they still likely had time set aside for her. They were kind, and loving. They always seemed to know best. They loved both of their daughters. They stayed close to both sisters even after Elsa and Anna are kept away from each other. Then they leave, taking every secret and everything they never told Anna with them. The only person left who knows anything is Elsa. And Anna won’t even find out that there are more secrets, until three years after their disappearance. Until that point, she still thinks of them the same as she always did, but after? [[BrokenPedestal She just found out they lied to her. For most of her life.]] Sure, she might have figured something was up when they kept making excuses up for why Elsa couldn't be around her, but how could Anna have possibly predicted the real secret? They didn’t trust her at all, at least not with information as vital as that. They may have been trying to keep her safe, but at what cost? And as far as we know at the end of the first movie, the full story was still never really explained to her, so she might still be wondering why. Look at how messed up she and Elsa are, and their parents seemingly just let that happen?\ |
| 644 | \ |
| 645 | But she can’t ask them about it. [[CallingTheOldManOut She can’t go racing up to them and demand why, just why any of this had to happen]]. She can’t yell at them for not trusting her, or for freaking Elsa out, or for even closing the gates in the first place. She can’t gain any closure from them, the people responsible for everything, ever again because they aren’t coming back. She can scream at their tombstones until she’s blue in the face but that won’t make a difference.\ |
| 646 | \ |
| 647 | Anna’s the kind of person who needs answers. After everything that has happened in her life, she needs that closure. But she’s not going to get it from them. |
| 648 | * Elsa faces a similar issue, and an entirely different one. Elsa comes off as the kind of person who would defend her parents’ actions ‘til the end. She thought the world of both of them, but especially her father. She spent most of her life trying so, so hard to be something he could be proud of, trying so hard in fact that she couldn’t even see that he was. Elsa wanted to be something worthy of her parents’ love, and she wore herself thin trying to be that, despite never comprehending that she actually had it. However that mentality came from somewhere, and that somewhere was the accident. For a brief moment Elsa saw panic and confusion in her parents’ faces and knowing she was the cause of it. She heard the worry and disapproval in her father’s voice as he demanded, “Elsa, what have you done? This is getting out of hand!” as he entered the ballroom that night. And Elsa never wanted to experience that again.\ |
| 649 | \ |
| 650 | Obviously, neither Agnarr or Iduna blamed Elsa for anything, except for that one, tense moment, when those words slipped out of Agnarr’s mouth: ''Elsa, what have you done? This is getting out of hand!''. But that one little slip up was enough. And Elsa has to ask herself how exactly she feels about it, because while they may never have done anything to outwardly cast blame on her again, they did have that moment. And that moment could arguably carry more weight because they were acting on instinct, then, and didn’t have the time to put any thought behind their words or actions. And when they did have the time, their solution was to run and hide from their problems.\ |
| 651 | \ |
| 652 | Elsa needs to look back on her parents’ decisions and ask herself if it really was okay, if it really was for the best. Did they really think everything through, or were there more questions they could have asked but didn’t? Could things have been better had they acted differently? After all, it wasn’t until three years after their deaths that Elsa allowed Anna back into her life, and that was only because Elsa's powers got exposed to the kingdom. It wasn’t until they were gone that things eventually returned to a much happier state. Were they standing in the way of Elsa’s happiness? |
| 653 | |
| 654 | These are all things that ought to be addressed in the sequel. They have a great opportunity to really build Elsa’s character and maybe both parents in a Mufasa-esque kind of way. Where Elsa thought the world of her parents until certain events convinced her that they would look down on her in disapproval (in the Lion King it was Simba believing he killed his father; in Frozen it’d be after Elsa froze the entire kingdom over and ran away). Even after the Thaw, I imagine Elsa would still hold onto that fear of their disappointment, how despite them being dead she knows they wouldn’t have agreed with her actions back at her coronation and believes they must think pretty poorly of her at this point. She doesn’t want to really face any of the other issues, either, as reflecting on them only bring up painful memories and thoughts. Maybe she does harbor a bit of anger with her parents. Maybe she’s frustrated that they were always so patient with her despite her believing that she was unworthy of that patience. Maybe she slowly comes to the realization that her father's decisions weren’t right. Maybe Anna will admit to Elsa how much she now resents their parents for separating them, which could force Elsa to really examine her own complicated emotions towards her parents. |
| 655 | |
| 656 | But then maybe through something with Pabbie acting as Rafiki, she’s able to look back on her past and theirs and come to the realization that, despite their flaws and hers, they all loved each other, so, so much. If they even want to go full Lion King, have some kind of vision or magical experience where she can see them and talk to them, and maybe even get some closure from them. |
| 657 | |
| 658 | This instance of "Dead Disney Parents" shouldn't get swept under the rug. They have a chance to really develop some female characters’ relationships with their parents. Given how little screen time Agnarr and Iduna had versus how much weight they pulled in the movie, this isn’t something the writers should really ignore. Maybe Elsa still has nightmares, only these are about a snowy storm swallowing up a helpless ship in the ocean that looks too much like the one her parents left on. Maybe Anna notices little quirks her sister has that relate back to those thirteen years of separation and gets a fleeting moment of anger that her parents let it get as bad as it did. Just something that gets these characters talking about their dead parents. |
| 659 | |
| 660 | Interesting fact - the subtitle of Frozen II: 'Il Segreto di Arendelle' in Italian translates to 'The Secret of Arendelle'. ''Plenty'' of secrets, yet to be revealed by the parents of Elsa and Anna. |
| 661 | |
| 662 | [[WMG: More on baggage...]] |
| 663 | |
| 664 | * Maybe the previous WildMassGuess could also suggest that some of the baggage that Agnarr and Iduna took with them on the voyage has been discovered. Elsa receives the small suitcases, and finds little notes (or even a MessageInABottle from Gerda (Iduna) like in Once Upon A Time) from her parents. They ''were'' aware of a possible storm (caused by the elemental imbalance in Arendelle?)and they may have taken some intense swimming lessons to get ready in case of disaster. |
| 665 | ** In the storm scene of 'Do You Want To Build A Snowman?' from Frozen, there seems to be one or two human figures swimming (the ship had already been engulfed by then). Maybe they escaped in good time. |
| 666 | * The horse encountered by Elsa in Frozen II, the Nokk, may have helped Iduna and Agnarr to survive the stormy seas. There is a bit of a glowing trail in front of the swimming figure/s. |
| 667 | * Perhaps they wanted to go to that autumnal forest due to its associations with elemental powers like Elsa's. |
| 668 | |
| 669 | * It's been said by fans at test screenings that the two 'new' characters in the teaser trailer are [[spoiler:Iduna and Agnarr.]] |
| 670 | |
| 671 | |
| 672 | '''Now, it's Elsa's turn to go into the unknown, find the origins of her powers, and possibly even find her parents.''' |
| 673 | |
| 674 | [[WMG: The shackles in the cell were meant for Iduna]] |
| 675 | In the first movie, when Hans and his men captured Elsa and brought her back to Arendelle, they took her to the dungeon and chained her up with these special shackles anchored to the floor. It seems convenient that such a cell was lying around. It also clearly couldn't have been built overnight and it seemed to be specifically built to contain Elsa. |
| 676 | Except Elsa broke out pretty easily. All she had to do was freeze the metal until it was so brittle it shattered. But who wouldn’t be able to break out so easily? Someone who can fly. Someone who would be rooted to the ground by the chains. Like Iduna is shown doing in the second full trailer. That cell in the dungeons wasn’t built for Elsa, but for her mother. |
| 677 | * Also, since they both know very well that Elsa powers don't just come from her hands, it doesn't make much sense for the parents to make those kinds of shackles specifically for her. |
| 678 | |
| 679 | [[WMG: What if Iduna's ''not'' Northuldra after all?]] |
| 680 | * She could have just been around in the open forest that day. Perhaps even a relative of the Ice Harvesters like Kristoff is. |
| 681 | * Her scarf was mentioned to be from one of the Northuldra's oldest families.However, if Iduna wasn't born Northuldra, she could have instead received a scarf upon her arrival to the forest, when it was open to anyone. Plus Honeymaren and Ryder weren't around before the mist wall trapped the forest, so it could seem old to them. |
| 682 | * In the deleted prologue, Iduna is shown at one point to have been wearing a cape with the Arendelle crest on. She could have pinched a Northuldra scarf on her way out of the forest. Iduna wasn't shown wearing it earlier that day (before saving Agnarr). Who knows? |
| 683 | |
| 684 | [[/folder]] |
| 685 | |
| 686 | [[folder:Anna]] |
| 687 | |
| 688 | [[WMG: Anna will experience further CharacterDevelopment in the sequel.]] |
| 689 | |
| 690 | Anna's doomed romance with Hans showed the problems of FourthDateMarriage and LoveAtFirstSight, and she's certainly learned from it. In a sequel, another flaw in traditional Disney logic will be taken apart: BlackAndWhiteMorality, something that was touched upon in the first movie but never really explored. Then there’s Hans, who has been confirmed as a TragicVillain. In a “Redemption of Hans storyline” Anna, in her innocence and heartbreak, will have a downplayed case of BlackAndWhiteInsanity, and initially see Hans as a heartless monster beyond hope]]. Her [[AnAesop personal lesson]] will be about the existence of grey morality, and that people are never just one thing. |
| 691 | * This could also come into play if we’re introduced to Hans’ family and they turn out to be horrible as predicted. Growing up only knowing a sadly distant, but nonetheless loving family, it’s probable that Anna would have trouble wrapping her head around the idea of a [[AbusiveParents maliciously abusive]] [[BigBrotherBully one]], unless witnessing it firsthand. |
| 692 | * Or maybe, if Elsa loses her powers, Anna will grow to acknowledge her beloved sister isn't as perfect as she's always idealized her to be. |
| 693 | * Anna may have more IResembleThatRemark moments, such as when she tells Elsa "don't be a drama queen" in the non-canon 'Lego Frozen Magic of The Northern Lights'. Elsa will develop her spiritedness (and be similar to a cheery Anna). |
| 694 | * To avoid appearing worthless thanks to Elsa's charm, Anna will try to preserve her individuality by acting rather differently to what we might expect from her. There may even be some {{Downplayed}} CharacterDerailment for Anna. |
| 695 | |
| 696 | [[WMG: Anna will represent the InkSuitActor, in an alternative way]] |
| 697 | |
| 698 | Kristen Bell has stated in an interview that Anna is going to take influence and relate to her own experiences in life. |
| 699 | * This could hint that Anna may suffer from depression. Firstly, she was separated from Elsa for a long time, but also when Elsa speaks about and reminds her of their parents. Although Elsa wouldn't intentionally upset Anna like this, Anna could, unfortunately, lose that spark of optimism that defined her in Frozen. |
| 700 | * Anna certainly looks a bit depressed through the ''Frozen II'' trailer; at times she looks at Elsa in an irritated way. |
| 701 | |
| 702 | [[WMG: Anna has minimal swordsmanship training.]] |
| 703 | In the teaser, sure, she grabs Kristoff's sword and swings it at someone behind them, but she looks like she wasn't aiming correctly and her swing was inaccurate. However, she probably has ''some'' experience with a sword if she was ready to use it. Kristoff probably does not support Anna with her sword fighting interests. |
| 704 | |
| 705 | [[WMG: Anna confronts Elsa ]] |
| 706 | |
| 707 | * After Anna loses Elsa's ice within her (also no longer has the white bit of hair), her memories come back. In fact, during the time that the sisters mourned for their parents, ''Elsa accidentally hit Anna's head with ice magic- again.'' Elsa tried to emulate Grand Pabbie Troll's actions of removing memories of her ice magic from Anna, and also tried to remove the sadness of Anna due to mourning. |
| 708 | |
| 709 | * When Anna goes to the trolls (this would take place after ''Frozen Fever''), she will regain all memories of Elsa's magic - maybe even a second time that Elsa hit Anna's head with ice magic - after their parents were lost at sea. Anna becomes agitated due to Elsa altering her memory- Anna threatens to lock Elsa up in her room again, but instead removes her powers, leaving poor Elsa feeling the alternating biting-cold to scorching-hot like everyone else, with no one but Olaf to come and help. He enters through a window. |
| 710 | |
| 711 | ** Another way of expressing this could be as shown in the official Frozen II trailer, where Anna tries to run towards Elsa during the pink fire- Kristoff "saves" Anna by snatching her, away almost regardless of poor Elsa trying to control the fire by using her powers. The trailer does not show him helping Elsa, which totally means that he doesn't, because [[NeverTrustATrailer of course trailers always include every moment that happens in a movie and are never misleading]], and him not helping Elsa totally must have something to do with personal dislike and totally not because the ice is way more likely to hurt Anna, the character without ice magic, than it is to hurt Elsa, the character with ice magic and not bothered by cold. This may not suggest that Anna was approaching Elsa to confront her, but try to save her instead. However, Kristoff may have changed her mind, and Anna could be thankful that Elsa could prove herself worthy instead of being rescued. Then she would question Elsa following the event. Who knows...? |
| 712 | |
| 713 | |
| 714 | [[WMG: Anna doesn't actually have ''all'' that wavy hair in Frozen II...]] |
| 715 | |
| 716 | Anna is presumably better at doing her hair than Elsa. Elsa doesn't mind that; she's admittedly lazy with styling her hair. On the evening before the sisters prepare for their journey to the north, Elsa spies on Anna through a keyhole. |
| 717 | |
| 718 | She sees Anna adding some sort of hair extensions (similar to a powdered wig but in the same shade as Anna's real hair) to her relatively straight, thin hair. Elsa chuckles to herself as she is reminded of when they met the Duke of Weselton at her coronation party- a funny RewatchBonus there! |
| 719 | |
| 720 | * Elsa has an idea to play a practical joke on Anna with the help of Olaf. In the forest, Olaf nimbly tugs away some of Anna's hair extensions. This doesn't affect Anna until she notices that a fair chunk of "her hair" has disappeared. Meanwhile, Elsa overhears Anna's shock while she is looking at something else, trying her best not to burst out with laughter! |
| 721 | ** It would be a hilarious comedic moment to appear in such a mystery and magic based film. |
| 722 | |
| 723 | [[WMG: Anna is a mage]] |
| 724 | If Elsa is a fifth element, or their sisterhood is a fifth element, the chances of Anna being something like a closet fire mage skyrockets. |
| 725 | |
| 726 | They’ve already kind of alluded to it with the hair color and having the snow man dissolve in her arms. She is also heavily associated with summer, in contrast to Elsa’s winter. |
| 727 | |
| 728 | [[/folder]] |
| 729 | |
| 730 | [[folder:Anna and Kristoff]] |
| 731 | |
| 732 | [[WMG: The subplot will be about Anna and Kristoff's relationship being on the rocks.]] |
| 733 | |
| 734 | It all starts with TheILoveYouStigma, suggested by "Frozen Fever." Anna starts to worry that she only loves Kristoff as a friend and she's just looking for [[LovingAShadow her storybook romance again]], while Kristoff wrestles between his feelings for Anna and the fact that he doesn't want to trade his simple life for the world of aristocracy. Throw in some poor communication skills, and you've got a classic B-plot. Of course, the two lovesick fools figure it out in the end. |
| 735 | * Another factor might be that Elsa's and Kristoff's friendship isn't as good as we were led to believe. In "Frozen Fever", she only just trusts him to watch the courtyard even before the Snowgies are created, and in "Olaf's Frozen Adventure", Olaf tells Anna that she doesn't need to settle for someone like Kristoff. Elsa clearly hears him say it, but unlike Anna, she doesn't laugh it off. Assuming that Olaf's conscience was originally a part of Elsa's, these might actually be her thoughts. |
| 736 | |
| 737 | [[/folder]] |
| 738 | |
| 739 | [[folder:Hans]] |
| 740 | |
| 741 | [[WMG/FrozenIIHans On this page.]] |
| 742 | |
| 743 | [[/folder]] |
| 744 | |
| 745 | [[folder:Olaf]] |
| 746 | |
| 747 | [[WMG: Olaf develops a lot more skills.]] |
| 748 | |
| 749 | Olaf will learn much more than how to read, write or spell. He will serve as a supportive part of Anna and Elsa's bond until their parents return. |
| 750 | * Since Elsa made Olaf, many of his traits have come from what Elsa's actual feelings are. He is happy, full of humour and fun, and so is Elsa. |
| 751 | * Perhaps Olaf can read dreams- and discovers an odd fact. Elsa dreams in colour; Anna dreams in black and white. |
| 752 | |
| 753 | [[WMG: Olaf will die]] |
| 754 | |
| 755 | What is one of the typical elements of an epic movie? It's that someone dies during the adventure, and most of the time that’s someone who’s already well known and beloved in the movie. |
| 756 | |
| 757 | In the last teaser shot, you see Anna grab Kristoff’s sword (why does he even have one?) and attack an unfamiliar opponent with deadly force without so much as thinking. But let's look at the short scene one by one. You can see Anna, Kristoff and Elsa from behind, while they walking through the woods. Everyone moves very carefully and attentively until Anna notices something behind her and acts immediately - without even hesitating for a second. Looking at the surprised faces of Kristoff and Elsa, they do not seem to be astonished at Anna’s action, but look at something or someone behind her, not at Anna herself. By the way…if you looked carefully, Anna closes her eyes shortly before she hits the “target” |
| 758 | |
| 759 | I wonder, what must have happened there just short before that causes Anna to such an impulsive reaction and to a seemingly obvious acceptance of her companions against Anna’s behavior? Who but Sven and his other “reindeer friends” are missing in this trio, who is always at the side of his friends? Simple answer: Olaf. |
| 760 | |
| 761 | Nobody knows, and of course the question also arises, whether Olaf - a character Elsa “created” - can even die at all. After all, in ''Olaf's Frozen Adventure'', when he first completely melted in the sauna and was tossed out in Oaken's bucket. From the ice block, snap-frozen in the freezing cold winter air, he is then like peeled back out of the egg…fresh and blithely. Nevertheless, in one scene of the teaser, where everyone is standing side by side and looking at this wonderfully wide valley landscape, it is noticeable that Olaf does not seem to need his own little flurry any more. Has he now become “really alive”? Mortal? |
| 762 | |
| 763 | And there's an earlier teaser shot where the perpetually cheerful Olaf--who shows everyone his optimistic side, loves warm hugs and does not seem to be afraid of anything--clings to Elsa in a scene with eyes wide open in fear as she defends them both against a wall of fire. Apart from the fact that this fire wall somehow seems to have a heart shape, has anyone noticed that this pink fire reacts more like a “force field”? If you look at the scene in a loop, it looks like an invisible cocoon that throws Elsa’s ice beam back to the inside. |
| 764 | |
| 765 | It's probable that Olaf will be fodder who gets killed off along the way, and that's something the sisters would take personally since Olaf is basically their child (they organized a massive manhunt when he got lost in the forest back in ''Olaf's Frozen Adventure'', and even before this, Anna had slid drawings of Olaf (and even a doll) under Elsa's door every Christmas for the last 13 years). |
| 766 | |
| 767 | Hopefully, Olaf can still return in some way (as so not to scare the light-hearted population of Frozen fans away!) |
| 768 | |
| 769 | [[/folder]] |
| 770 | |
| 771 | [[folder:Sven]] |
| 772 | |
| 773 | [[WMG: Sven might become anthropomorphised - being able to talk!]] |
| 774 | |
| 775 | Sven the reindeer is the underrated animal companion of Kristoff. He is rather clever, for an animal. Elsa and Anna seem to understand the messages given by Sven in a clearer way than Kristoff does, as shown in Olaf's Frozen Adventure when Olaf gets attacked by wolves, and Sven rushes back to the others and tries to represent the idea that Olaf needs to be found. |
| 776 | * Maybe, any other character apart from Kristoff will speak to Sven, and he really replies to them in human speech. However, this needs to be kept as a secret from Kristoff, because he would feel very upset that Sven never genuinely spoke to him before. |
| 777 | * We could learn a lot more about Kristoff and Sven's past life if this happened to Sven. |
| 778 | |
| 779 | [[WMG: Kristoff may not be riding his reindeer Sven in the Frozen II trailer.]] |
| 780 | |
| 781 | There are so many new reindeer featured in the teaser trailer- perhaps Kristoff mistook another reindeer for Sven because he seemed to be in a hurry. |
| 782 | * Also, Sven had pointier antlers in the rest of the Frozen franchise, yet in the trailer ''Frozen II'', he appears to have grown back more round-ended antlers. Perhaps it is another reindeer! |
| 783 | ** More likely it's just a different season, so Sven's antlers are still in velvet from being re-grown. Antlers do that. |
| 784 | |
| 785 | [[/folder]] |
| 786 | |
| 787 | [[folder:Trolls]] |
| 788 | |
| 789 | [[WMG: The Trolls will turn out to be evil and were behind Hans' actions the entire time!]] |
| 790 | |
| 791 | It was already implied that they weren't fine with Anna being in love with Hans, they tried to engage her to Kristoff without her consent, and also that they have the power to control minds as done by Pabbie. Also no troll has ever appeared in any of the Frozen shorts, still leaving them as a mystery. The movie will go to show that there's a grand scheme by the trolls to overthrow all humans from the kingdom and drop the act to finally get rid of Elsa and Anna once and for all. |
| 792 | |
| 793 | [[WMG: The Trolls murdered Kristoff's parents then brainwashed him to make him forget about them and use him as someone to portray them in a heroic light with the sisters.]] |
| 794 | |
| 795 | [[WMG: An EvilCounterpart race to the Trolls will be major antagonists.]] |
| 796 | |
| 797 | Trolls are huge in Scandinavian folklore, so naturally, they appeared in the Norwegian set Frozen. The sequel will feature another popular species from the Norse myths: Dwarves. Not the ''WesternAnimation/{{Snow White|AndTheSevenDwarfs}}'' or the [[Franchise/TolkiensLegendarium Tolkien]] varieties, but the olden variety, also known under the name "dark elves". Associated with the Earth, darkness, and death, these dwarves look like ghouls, have jet-black skin (or [[UndeathlyPallor white]],) are old men by age ten, and live underground because [[WeakenedByTheLight sunlight harms them in some way]]. In contrast to the helpful and extremely friendly trolls personality wise, dwarves, no matter the material, are always cranky, distrustful of other races, and go to great lengths for revenge. |
| 798 | * Dwarves were revered by humans and the gods for their craftsmanship, so maybe they are the creators of the Evil Mirror from the original tale. Sometimes dwarves have mystical powers, either [[SizeShifter shrinking and growing]], [[InvisibilityCloak turning invisible with magic helmets or capes]], [[{{Intangibility}} moving through solid earth]], or [[ComboPlatterPowers all of the above]]. |
| 799 | * In the Broadway production of Frozen, there are characters known as Hidden Folk which took the place of the trolls. They may feature in Frozen 2. |
| 800 | |
| 801 | |
| 802 | [[/folder]] |
| 803 | |
| 804 | [[folder:New Characters]] |
| 805 | |
| 806 | [[WMG: The new characters featuring in the Frozen II teaser trailer could lead the main characters through a new land.]] |
| 807 | |
| 808 | * The four new human characters in the film are called Mattias, Honeymaren, Ryder and Yelana. |
| 809 | |
| 810 | * These characters could possibly be related to Kristoff, or Elsa and Anna. Maybe they could just be {{Heroic Bystander}}s who help the sisters find their parents, or help the group to save people in danger of a natural disaster nearby. |
| 811 | |
| 812 | * The prince and Northuldra girl featured in the teaser trailer and the second full trailer are not actually new to Frozen -they are Iduna and Agnarr in a flashback. However, the stories that the audience find out about them may seem surprising and new. |
| 813 | |
| 814 | |
| 815 | [[WMG: The character/s named Gerda will be determined in Frozen's sequel]] |
| 816 | |
| 817 | In Hans Christian Andersen's story 'The Snow Queen' Kai and Gerda are the main characters. Yet in Frozen, they are the names of two servants of the Arendelle Royal Family. However, there may be some misconception of who is Gerda. There is one grey-haired, thin woman who has some dialogue, who is presumably Gerda. There is also a plump, brown-haired woman who appears with Kai lots of the time... perhaps they are both named Gerda. |
| 818 | |
| 819 | [[WMG: Yelana was ConnectedAllAlong to Elsa and Anna.]] |
| 820 | |
| 821 | * Yelana is the elder leader of the Northuldra. She could be related to Elsa and Anna as their grandmother. Iduna lived in the Enchanted Forest, home to the Northuldra, so maybe Yelana is her mother. The books also show her to be a motherly figure to the sisters, perhaps indicating that they are more than new acquaintances. |
| 822 | |
| 823 | * Honeymaren and Ryder may also be related to the sisters. They might be their cousins- Iduna may have a brother or sister who are Honeymaren and Ryder's parents. |
| 824 | |
| 825 | [[WMG: Who are the new girl and the boy carried by the breeze in the leaves?]] |
| 826 | |
| 827 | * There are two unnamed characters in the teaser trailer; but they are not really new. |
| 828 | '''They are the parents of Elsa and Anna- King Agnarr and Queen Iduna when they were younger.''' |
| 829 | |
| 830 | Guesses had swarmed. |
| 831 | * Queen Iduna in a flashback? (With the boy being a young King Agnarr?) Iduna had light skin, blue eyes, and brown hair. This girl has brown hair, but appears to be AmbiguouslyBrown with darker eyes. It ''could'' be some sort of RaceLift that changed her eye colour, or maybe these were not final versions. |
| 832 | * Elsa's love interest? They both seem too young in the trailer, or maybe this is a flashback and we're in for a ChildhoodFriendRomance? |
| 833 | ** People suggest that the girl is around 12-14 years old, based on how young people develop now. In 1800s Norway, females reached that level of development at around 17-19 years old, which is most likely the girl's age. |
| 834 | |
| 835 | The new girl is perhaps someone with powers. Possibly an entirely new character. Perhaps someone that our heroes want to help. Or perhaps someone who will help the heroes. Or even both... |
| 836 | |
| 837 | * Maybe this is a flashback and we're in for a ChildhoodFriendRomance? |
| 838 | ** People suggest that the girl (Iduna) is around 12-14 years old in the scene. It's been confirmed that Agnarr is 14 years old when he is saved from the forest by a mysterious saviour: [[spoiler: Iduna]]. |
| 839 | |
| 840 | |
| 841 | * The blond boy is most likely ''Prince'' Agnarr, while the brunette girl is most likely Iduna before she became queen. At the beginning of ''Frozen II'', Agnarr tells a bedtime story to young Elsa and Anna, while Iduna listens too and laughs at the girls' reaction. Agnarr's story comprises of his experience in an elemental forest, and how "something terrible" happened, so he was sent back to Arendelle. The kingdom has been plagued by the air, wind, earth and fire elements ever since. |
| 842 | * The girl is also Iduna. She is more familiar with the magic of the elemental forest. Her appearance as queen may look somewhat different to the girl in the trailer, but interestingly, on Microsoft's "Face API", the character's faces are recognised as being of the same person, about 0.8 (80%) similar. |
| 843 | |
| 844 | |
| 845 | [[WMG: Regardless of who they are, the new characters will enjoy ADayInTheLimelight.]] |
| 846 | |
| 847 | Perhaps after the premiere of the film, there might be a cinematic short film based on these new characters on another Disney film or a bonus on the film's home video release. |
| 848 | |
| 849 | (See the folder 'After Frozen II' at the end of this WMG page.) |
| 850 | |
| 851 | [[WMG: Alternate rune theory]] |
| 852 | |
| 853 | The “snowflake” on the poster, if you look closely, is ''not'' a snowflake! |
| 854 | * It is a stylized ''vegvisir'' (ancient Norse compass) that they designed to look like a snowflake. This is important because one of the two places it’s found is in the ''Galdrabok'', [[https://66.media.tumblr.com/365d889f40cb14c28451f6d4653e6e75/tumblr_inline_pnenavMtTM1s8x76r_250.png an ancient Icelandic spellbook.]] |
| 855 | |
| 856 | So that’s a thing. But then there’s also the runes we see on [[https://66.media.tumblr.com/4baacde82c407ff496c5f32e6f9b476f/tumblr_inline_pnenfcGtAE1s8x76r_1280.png the stylized vegvisir in the poster]]. By all appearances, the runes we see on the poster are stylized versions of actual Norse runes. |
| 857 | |
| 858 | * The one on the bottom left, for example, appears to be ''inguz''. This rune represents a bunch of different things including isolation, internal growth, actualization of potential, family love, and the home. |
| 859 | |
| 860 | * The bottom right one is ''teiwaz''. This one is about leadership, justice, honor, self-sacrifice, and victory. |
| 861 | |
| 862 | * The top left rune is ''isa'', the ice one, clearly. |
| 863 | |
| 864 | * The top right is a bit more of a puzzle though. It could be ''thurisaz'' (which is typically drawn with what is a loopy bit here as a triangle instead, which matches the shape on the poster). Giants (what thurisaz represents) could work since the giants were the frost giants. A frost giant could also explain the floating ice crystals. The other main thing that giants have going for them here is that they turn to stone in the sunlight. That would explain why the lower half of the lettering in the movie title is black stone, not ice. That being said, since we are extrapolating here, that rune could also be a stylized version of ''lagus'', the water one, which would also make sense since half of the trailer is water. |
| 865 | |
| 866 | Now to unpack this a bit, the top right rune could mean a couple of different things: |
| 867 | * The first is assuming that the fourth rune is thurisaz (giants). In that case, the four runes would represent the four most important people in the movie- our 3 main characters and the giant(s), who would potentially be the main antagonist(s). If that’s the case, then ice would be Elsa, obviously, but that means the other two would have to apply to Anna and Kristoff. In that case, inguz (internal growth) could actually apply to Anna. All of the growth and change Elsa went through in the first movie, it would be Anna's turn to go through in the sequel. This would put Kristoff in the position of ''teiwaz'' (self sacrifice). Just as Anna would be put in the role Elsa had in the first movie, Kristoff would be put into Anna’s. Poetic, no? |
| 868 | |
| 869 | * The other possibility is that the four runes all apply to the two sisters. This would be assuming that it is ''lagus'' (water), not ''thurisaz'' (giant). Basically, ice would apply to Elsa still but water would apply to Anna. Given that we are being introduced to the concept of there possibly being more people with these powers, it’s not that crazy a concept that Anna could develop/obtain such powers herself. In that case, it’s not clear which of the two remaining runes would apply to whom. In Frozen II, inguz may apply to Anna, and teiwaz would apply to Elsa so they would quite literally switch roles from the first film, ''Frozen''. Anna would now be in isolation and personal growth while Elsa could be in a position of self-sacrifice. |
| 870 | |
| 871 | [[WMG: The film will establish that there have been other people similar to Elsa in the past.]] |
| 872 | |
| 873 | Maybe more will be explained about that book leading to the trolls, which Elsa's father picked up from their castle's library. |
| 874 | |
| 875 | * Anna supposedly carries a book with her in the Frozen II trailer. That could be the same book! |
| 876 | |
| 877 | [[WMG: The crystals are a clue, and Anna may know something about them.]] |
| 878 | |
| 879 | That bit in the teaser trailer with Anna seeing floating crystals on her balcony, and the later teaser bit of her sitting despairingly in the cave, could suggest she knows more about magic than previously assumed. |
| 880 | |
| 881 | * In summary, the crystals are runes featured in the Frozen II poster. |
| 882 | ** Top right crystal symbolises giants and the "earth" element |
| 883 | ** Top left crystal symbolises ice (Elsa)and the "water" element |
| 884 | ** Bottom left crystal symbolises isolation and the "fire" element |
| 885 | ** Bottom right crystal symbolises sacrifice (Anna) and the "air" element. |
| 886 | |
| 887 | |
| 888 | * ''WesternAnimation/FrozenII'' gives us a mix of themes, some of which will be explained OnceMoreWithClarity as they build on what was released in the ''Frozen'' franchise previously. Elsa's ice powers will probably have an OriginStory. |
| 889 | ** Other themes in both trailer are the sea, and elemental magic - earth, water, fire and air. These are represented by symbols in the crystals of the "snowflake" poster. |
| 890 | |
| 891 | Also, the whole 'snowflake' (it doesn't have 6 sides) represents a compass- a magical one! |
| 892 | |
| 893 | It can be expected that after the accident, Anna was often enough bored in her youth without Elsa as a playmate and therefore she moved alone through the castle. Perhaps she ultimately landed in the library. The same library where Agnarr pulled the book in which the secret map to the trolls' whereabouts is hidden. Let's note that Agnarr knew exactly which book to look for in the library, and didn't bother to stop to read it, just to get the map. Aside from knowing exactly what he was looking for, it may very well be that, years later, Anna discovered this exact book, partially translated it out of boredom (possibly with the help of other books) or simply remembered the runes inside this book for later. |
| 894 | |
| 895 | It's hard to say what Anna's reaction to the crystals is without more context, but it looks like she might have recognized the four different symbols on it. Does Anna remember the book of the trolls at that moment? Is this perhaps even an old prophecy or a mystery of the trolls, that have something to do with Arendelle at the time of her parents and maybe even wherefrom Elsa has her innate powers? Does Anna remember subconsciously Grand Pabbie altering her memories? Maybe even more than that? |
| 896 | |
| 897 | As far as the audience knows, Elsa has never told her this fact and maybe in ''Frozen II', that will be brought up in discussion. |
| 898 | |
| 899 | That thing with their father and the trolls is very strange, isn’t it? From where does King Agnarr know about the trolls? Enough that he knows immediately which book he has to look for? How does he know about the truth about Elsa’s powers and that one cannot only be born with it but also could be cursed with it (per Grand Pabbie's words)? Let us recall an illustration in this book that you see when Agnarr is flipping through the pages to grab the map. It's of an injured knight laid on a stone slab. Is this also about the ancestors of the royal family of Arendelle? His wife is also not too surprised during their visit to the trolls unless Iduna is too occupied in her thoughts at this point. |
| 900 | |
| 901 | There's no reason Disney would make cryptic hints in the form of a book, inscribed with Nordic runes, which is obviously about the healing of a person who was carried off by a power that can only be undone by trolls that turned to stone and much much more…many secrets. And then there is nothing anymore? |
| 902 | |
| 903 | Perhaps Grand Pabbie has the ability to look to the future - except for his healing and telepathy abilities at Anna and Elsa. Even the ''smallest'' of them seem to be able to create brightly coloured fire crystals (like that one troll during "Fixer Upper"). |
| 904 | |
| 905 | Who knows … maybe the trolls are not as nice and friendly as we thought so far, although they've managed to keep Kristoff in the dark. In fact, this could even explain Elsa's gloves. They suppress her powers to the outside, but not her shoes (the scene when Elsa ran across the fjord and froze the water)! Could the gloves have come from the trolls and have some kind of magic of their own? Elsa had a whole chest full of these gloves in the attic in ''Olaf’s Frozen Adventure'', which would last for a lifetime. And it's unusual if they were not treated in any magical way. And Elsa has her powers reasonably under control later on. |
| 906 | |
| 907 | And then there were the special chains in the castle dungeon, where Hans placed Elsa after he brought her back from the North Mountain. He couldn't have had those forged overnight, therefore they must have been prepared already years before. Only Elsa's parents and a couple of trusted servants knew about her abilities. It's possible that Elsa even began to have suspicions where these special handcuffs could have pcome from. |
| 908 | |
| 909 | [[WMG: Anna is the Summer Princess, and the new characters could represent those from the Snow Queen mythos]] |
| 910 | |
| 911 | Perhaps the Sami girl in the first trailer represents the Autumn Robber / Robber Girl, the boy is the Spring witch (wizard), Anna is not only Gerda, but is also the Summer Princess, and Elsa is obviously the Snow Queen. |
| 912 | |
| 913 | Since it's probable that the two new characters in the first trailer are Agnarr and Iduna, them ''also'' being characters from the original tale or another adaption could tie into the family theme. Perhaps all four of the Arendelle royal family have powers, or can manage magical powers of some sort. |
| 914 | |
| 915 | The boy could be linked to Spring-associated with youth, newness, growth, etc., and a young boy fits pretty well. He also seems to be connected strongly with the Sami girl, and since Spring and Autumn are sort of opposites, and Winter and Summer are kind of opposites to each other too, Elsa and Anna being Summer and Winter due to their close relation would make sense. |
| 916 | |
| 917 | * Winter- Frozen, Bleak, Cold, Chilly, Frigid, Frostbitten, Isolation, Snow. |
| 918 | |
| 919 | * Spring- Blossom, Growth, Rebirth, Sprout, Rain, Reaping-What-You-Sow, Sunshine, Warming. |
| 920 | |
| 921 | * Summer- Heat, Warmth, Journey, Fire, Sunshine. |
| 922 | |
| 923 | * Autumn- Cool, Crisp, Falling Leaves, Leaves, Harvest, Wind. |
| 924 | |
| 925 | Anna’s powers were just delayed because of the troll magic- it basically stunted her magic development. |
| 926 | |
| 927 | [[WMG: The shackles from the first movie will be revealed to have been created by Agnarr's father]] |
| 928 | |
| 929 | The second full trailer says Arendelle had a war with a group of people called the Northuldra. It's possible the Northuldra, or at least some of them, had magic, and Agnarr's father built the shackles not for anyone in particular, but for potential magical Northuldran enemies. This history would help explain why Agnar and Iduna were so afraid of what could happen to Elsa if people knew about her powers even more than Pabbie's warning already did. Maybe Arendellian society also had a mistrust of magic because of the war with the Northuldra, further feeding the parents' fear for Elsa's safety if her secret got out. |
| 930 | |
| 931 | |
| 932 | [[/folder]] |
| 933 | |
| 934 | [[folder: Crossover ideas]] |
| 935 | |
| 936 | [[WMG: The sequel will be based on season 4 of Series/OnceUponATime.]] |
| 937 | |
| 938 | They may find a way to execute this plot, just without the elements of the Enchanted Forest and Storybrooke. Some of the plot elements of the ''Once Upon a Time'' / ''Frozen'' crossover arc - Anna preparing to marry Kristoff, Anna and Elsa learning about their family's background, Hans is back for revenge, etc. - could somehow be incorporated if rewritten accordingly. |
| 939 | |
| 940 | [[WMG: The next villain will be based on another story by Creator/HansChristianAndersen]] |
| 941 | |
| 942 | Possibilities include: |
| 943 | * A LivingShadow or Elsa's ShadowArchetype (''Literature/{{The Shadow|Fairy Tale}}'') |
| 944 | * A sea witch (''Literature/TheLittleMermaid'') |
| 945 | * A man (possibly Hans) who gets his hand on a magic tinderbox that summons monsters (''Literature/TheTinderBox'') |
| 946 | * Someone who lost a family member during Elsa's winter (''Literature/TheLittleMatchGirl'') |
| 947 | |
| 948 | [[WMG: A new character will be a FourthWallObserver]] |
| 949 | Perhaps akin to someone like ''ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}'', a new character who acts as comic relief seems aware they're in a Disney movie and make a few funny observations on their formula and the characters, along with some BitingTheHandHumor, but all of the other characters have no clue what they're talking about. And keying into Frozen's ExpandedUniverse novels and comics, they acknowledge those events and [[SchrodingersCanon question the canonicity]]. They even make comments on Frozen's plot, fandom reactions, crossover ships. |
| 950 | -->'''Character''': So you're Princess Anna and Queen Elsa! |
| 951 | -->'''Anna''': You know who we are? |
| 952 | -->'''Character''': How could I not. ''(Does an AsideGlance)'' You're probably more popular than WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse at this point. |
| 953 | -->''(Both sisters look at where he glanced and then look at each other in confusion)'' |
| 954 | -->'''Elsa''': Who is that and what were you looking at? |
| 955 | |
| 956 | -->'''Character''': ''(After a song)'' La! ''(Coughs)'' La-la-la! ''(Sighs)'' Why couldn't I have been voiced by a wonderful singer like Music/JoshGroban, Music/EdSheeran or even Music/RKelly? Oh wait, the allegations on that last one. |
| 957 | -->'''Anna or Elsa''': Who? |
| 958 | |
| 959 | -->'''Character''': Man, that first trailer was pretty dark, wasn't it? The first film had Olaf and Sven before we knew what their names were messing around, then we have you braving the ocean and ends with Anna potentially hacking someone! I can't wait for little girls to buy your dresses after this. |
| 960 | -->'''Anna''': What are you even talking about? |
| 961 | |
| 962 | -->'''Character''': In a perfect world... ''Gigantic'' would have had a teaser before the opening credits. |
| 963 | -->'''Kristoff''': What's ''Gigantic''? |
| 964 | |
| 965 | -->'''Character''': So is it true that you have massive daddy issues and you got a good brother who convinced you to marry the ice lady but you let said daddy issues get in the way? |
| 966 | -->'''Hans''': How would you even know about my life before Elsa's coronation? |
| 967 | -->'''Character''': I read [[Literature/AFrozenHeart the book]] that [[SchrodingersCanon may or may not be canon]] depending on who you ask. |
| 968 | -->'''Hans''': Book about... what? |
| 969 | -->'''Character''': I know aspects of your lives that I'm acknowledging to confirm canon in this film, potentially making half of the fandom who spend their time digging through wikis happy or angering the other half with novel-length fanfiction. |
| 970 | -->'''Hans''': ''(Slightly uncomfortable)'' I feel like I should have listened to Lars... |
| 971 | -->'''Character''': ''(To the audience)'' Ah! He said Lars! He's got a brother named Lars! He's canon! |
| 972 | |
| 973 | -->'''Character''': ''(Referring to a new character)'' Please don't be [[EvilAllAlong secretly evil and turn on everyone in the third act]]! It was upsetting enough when ''he'' did it! ''(Points to Hans)'' |
| 974 | -->'''Hans''': Please don't point at me. |
| 975 | |
| 976 | -->'''Character''': And as of now, only like 2 scenes from the original teaser aren't in this. Then again, I wasn't revealed in it so... |
| 977 | |
| 978 | -->'''Hans''': We need to speak with Lars. |
| 979 | -->'''Character''': [[OneSteveLimit Your brother, the harvester or the con-artist salesman's cousin?]] That name is too common in this franchise. |
| 980 | |
| 981 | -->'''Character''': ''(Looking VERY annoyed at the audience)'' Okay! Elephant in the room! Because I know the fans will be making a big deal out of this later with the fanarts, Hey Elsa! |
| 982 | -->'''Elsa''': Yes? |
| 983 | -->'''Character''': ''(Character shows picture of what's implied to be [[WesternAnimation/RiseOfTheGuardians Jack Frost]], but only Elsa can see it)'' Would you be interested in any way in this kid? And be attracted to him? |
| 984 | -->'''Elsa''': ''(clearly shocked and disgusted)'' Eeww, no! He's clearly just a child! |
| 985 | -->'''Character''': ''(Whispers to the audience)'' And from someone who could sue us, hence why I can't let you see him. |
| 986 | |
| 987 | -->'''Character''': ''(About Hans)'' He's coming with us! |
| 988 | -->'''Anna''': No! |
| 989 | -->'''Elsa''': Out of the question. Why should we allow him anywhere near us?! |
| 990 | -->'''Character''': A few reasons... namely people really love Santino Fontana's voice... |
| 991 | -->'''Hans''': Who? |
| 992 | -->'''Character''': Not to mention to tease the shippers. ''(Gestures towards Elsa)'' |
| 993 | -->'''Elsa''': What do people who trade goods overseas have to do with this? And why are you looking at me like that? |
| 994 | |
| 995 | -->'''Character''': ''(Pushing Hans off a cliff)'' See! He's not a villain anymore! |
| 996 | -->'''Anna''': How does ''that'' prove he's not evil? |
| 997 | -->'''Character''': Because only [[DisneyVillainDeath the bad guy falls to their death]], plus it's only at the climax. It's barely the second act. ''(Looks to where the sounds of Hans calling out in pain are coming from)'' And he's still alive... ''barely''. |
| 998 | -->'''Hans''': I can't feel my legs! |
| 999 | -->'''Character''': Ooh... [[DidntThinkThisThrough I didn't think that through]], did I? |
| 1000 | -->'''Elsa''': [[EveryoneHasStandards You think?!]] |
| 1001 | |
| 1002 | -->''(Hans and Elsa [[DeathGlare glare intensely]] [[HeldGaze at each other]])''\ |
| 1003 | '''Character''': ''Aaanndd...'' kiss! ''(They both look at him in confusion)'' Sorry... [[ShipperOnDeck was really hoping this lined up with my fanfiction]]. Please resume [[FoeRomanceSubtext looking deeply into each other's eyes in way that suggests a different subtext]].\ |
| 1004 | ''(They both look too embarrassed by that to resume and just walk away awkwardly)'' |
| 1005 | |
| 1006 | -->'''Character''': You must be [[WesternAnimation/{{Zootopia}} Duke Weaselton]].\ |
| 1007 | '''Duke''': Weselton! It's the Duke of Weselton!\ |
| 1008 | '''Character''': Oh right... [[Creator/AlanTudyk wrong role]]. At least I didn't confuse you for [[WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph a racer]], [[WesternAnimation/BigHero6 a morally ambiguous billionaire]], [[WesternAnimation/{{Moana}} a chicken]] or [[WesternAnimation/RalphBreaksTheInternet the visual representation of a search engine]]. Say, what do you think the next role you have is? |
| 1009 | -->'''Duke''': ... what? |
| 1010 | |
| 1011 | -->'''Character''': So... I don't get you. |
| 1012 | -->'''Olaf''': How so? I'm Olaf and I like warm hugs. What else is there to get? |
| 1013 | -->'''Character''': How do you work? |
| 1014 | -->'''Kristoff''': Olaf doesn't work, he just lives with Anna and Elsa. |
| 1015 | -->'''Character''': No, I mean his biology. |
| 1016 | -->'''Elsa''': Huh? |
| 1017 | -->'''Character''': Does he breathe? Does he have vital organs? How does he digest what he eats? Does he even leave waste? How does he even have a gender? Does walking in snow for him feel like if you were to stand barefoot on a floor made of human flesh? |
| 1018 | -->''(Everyone is stunned silent)'' |
| 1019 | -->'''Anna''': You put ''way'' too much thought into that. |
| 1020 | -->'''Character''': ''([[AsideGlance Looks at the audience for a moment]])'' Not the first thing about this franchise people thought too hard about. |
| 1021 | |
| 1022 | -->'''Character''': ''(Elsa is about to sing)'' Time for another song that listeners aren't going to shut up about until the next film! You think they'll ignore the negative aspects, like how people ignore that she was blatantly running away from her problems and making things worse in "Let It Go"? |
| 1023 | |
| 1024 | -->'''Hans''': Where did you get that chicken? |
| 1025 | -->'''Character''': Reused asset from ''WesternAnimation/{{Moana}}''. ''(Looks at the audience)'' Don't worry, it's not the same chicken, just saving money by reusing the same model. Like how this joker was a statue in ''WesternAnimation/BigHero6''. |
| 1026 | -->'''Hans''': I'm a statue from where? |
| 1027 | |
| 1028 | -->'''Character''': ''(At the end of the film's end credit scene)'' This was a fun story. Can't for part three, which is a guarantee from our box office results from being a sequel to the movie people won't shut up about. You think I'll get a spinoff before then? |
| 1029 | -->'''Hans''': (Looking very annoyed at this point) What the heck are you even talking about?! |
| 1030 | -->'''Kristoff''': I think he must be from the ''other'' place... |
| 1031 | -->'''Character''': Hey! Leave the fourth wall jokes to me! |
| 1032 | -->'''Kristoff''': Fourth... what? |
| 1033 | |
| 1034 | -->'''Character:''' Things would be a lot easier with [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Sora]] around. |
| 1035 | -->'''Anna:''' Who? |
| 1036 | -->'''Character:''' Oh that's right, [[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII you barely chatted with him]] [[ExecutiveMeddling because of you-know-who.]] |
| 1037 | |
| 1038 | -->'''Elsa:''' [[TemptingFate Let's hope things can return to normal from now on.]] |
| 1039 | -->'''Character:''' Or maybe until you get another sequel. Or heck, maybe even a live action remake since the big cheese loves doing those! But if that were to happen, please keep Will Smith away from Olaf at all costs. |
| 1040 | |
| 1041 | -->'''Character''': I wrote a script for either a third movie or a spin-off about me. It's a crossover with all of the Disney princesses, like the scene in ''WesternAnimation/RalphBreaksTheInternet'' only there's no internet and it is the focus. Do you think Rapunzel and Eugene are still a thing by the way? Because I got a great subplot idea. |
| 1042 | -->'''Elsa''': Who? |
| 1043 | -->'''Character''': ''(To the audience)'' Wow. I just de-confirmed them being cousins. ''(To the characters)'' Alright, hear this. Ahem... "Merida and [insert name] start making out". ''(Everyone exchanges glances at each other to show how uncomfortable they are)'' Oh, wait... this is the first draft. ''(Pulls out another one)'' Here it is! "[insert name] and Merida start making out." ''(Notices Hans is leaving)'' Wait! I wanna know if you want a cameo that doesn't involve [[WesternAnimation/FrozenFever snow or manure]]! |
| 1044 | |
| 1045 | [[WMG: A Marvel character will show up]] |
| 1046 | * Hey, maybe even the Merc with the Mouth ''himself'' may show up. That joke in the second Deadpool movie about "Do You Want to Build a Snowman?" could be a hint! |
| 1047 | |
| 1048 | * They could also decide to use a more friendly and obscure character, maybe ''Gwenpool'' following ''Spider-Man: Into The Spider-verse'' use of Spider-Gwen? |
| 1049 | |
| 1050 | * Looking for answers to the kingdom, maybe they seek someone with knowledge? Could be the Ancient One. |
| 1051 | |
| 1052 | [[WMG: The new villain will be a Marvel Character]] |
| 1053 | |
| 1054 | With Marvel's large villain library one can easily fit into Frozen without being a stark contrast to the overall style. Avoiding obvious big names like Apocalypse, more obscure and ancient villains could be used. Like Selene of the X-Men's Hellfire Club. Being a 17,000 year old mutant who drains life and is worshipped as a goddess could place her a worthy opponent to Elsa who will seek her to drain her ice powers and take over Arendelle to use as a source to maintain her powers. The fact that Selene killed her mother upon birth could shock both sisters who lost their parents. Not much could change other than omitting the X-Men/Hellfire Club ties, reducing the scandalous Stripperiffic outfits and changing her powers from the mutant Gene to magic. Going for a more mythical enemy, Thor's enemy Amora the Enchantress could also be a candidate who could wield magic to fight Elsa. |
| 1055 | |
| 1056 | [[/folder]] |
| 1057 | |
| 1058 | |
| 1059 | [[folder: Songs]] |
| 1060 | |
| 1061 | [[WMG: The songs]] |
| 1062 | |
| 1063 | As Frozen is quite a musical, there are plenty of possibilities for new songs. |
| 1064 | |
| 1065 | * To add to the cultural aspects of the film, there could be a Dano-Norwegian or Sami song featured in this sequel, similarly to how ''WesternAnimation/{{Brave}}'' featured a lovely song in Scottish Gaelic. It would be great if there was a song like this, featuring anyone who can effectively sing the song for the sequel of Frozen. |
| 1066 | ** There will be another heartwarming moment of a mother singing to her daughters. |
| 1067 | |
| 1068 | * Anna and Elsa have a small duet, where they sing of how their lives have changed and how they've mended their close bond, yet while Anna thinks everything is great, it's clear when Elsa's alone that she hasn't forgiven herself for freezing her little sister's heart. And/or other characters will sing about how inseparable the sisters are now, possibly with the local aristocrats being concerned about Elsa not wanting to meet suitors as she prefers to spend all sequel of her spare time with Anna, or Kristoff complaining that Anna invites Elsa to all of their dates. |
| 1069 | |
| 1070 | * Let's give the sisters a big duet! It should appear either near the beginning or near the end of the film. Maybe they will play musical instruments; an example could be Elsa playing the violin, Kristoff playing his lute and Anna (or even Hans) playing the piano. Perhaps this will be the song that is 'an evolution' as quoted by one of the directors. |
| 1071 | ** Something that may support the theory of the characters playing musical instruments comes from viewers of the Annecy Film Festival who noticed violins hanging on the wall of a room.{{Jossed}} |
| 1072 | |
| 1073 | |
| 1074 | * Maybe the main characters could sing with some minor characters e.g. Elsa (in disguise) sings with townspeople (commoners), hoping not to be caught by any aristocrats for engaging with those of a lower class. Elsa could defy social boundaries with an act such as this. Something along these lines also has the possibility of becoming an evolutionary piece. |
| 1075 | ** Elsa may sing with the two new characters or go and sing with the Vuelie choir. |
| 1076 | |
| 1077 | * Perhaps a song that reprises "Do You Wanna Build A Snowman?"! This time, Elsa sings it, due to Anna uncharacteristically drifting apart from her instead. The lyrics may change and the timeframe is dramatically shorter, thankfully. Yet Elsa may know why Anna is upset and avoiding her- she reminded Anna of their parents, with the optimism of them being alive-but Anna has lost hope somehow; she is even more saddened than at the end of the original "Do You Wanna Build A Snowman?" song. |
| 1078 | ** Or an extremely short reprise where Anna asks Elsa to build a snowman and Elsa immediately says yes. |
| 1079 | ** Or a longer reprise where Elsa is too busy as the new queen. |
| 1080 | |
| 1081 | * Why not give Elsa a whimsical number now that she can 'let it go'? She could sing a song like "In Summer", or something that gives Anna's liveliness a run for her money! |
| 1082 | |
| 1083 | * A 'remix' of one of the outtakes from the original movie/the Frozen Broadway musical. Maybe the song "More Than Just The Spare", an outtake from the first film, with lyrics and melody to fit around the character. For example, Elsa would sing about how she is more than a queen with magical ice powers. {{Jossed}} |
| 1084 | ** "More Than Just The Spare" could also repurposed in the sequel in the form of a DarkReprise of the original version, still sung by Anna but maybe almost entirely replacing the lyrics but keeping a similar tune (also shared at points with For the First Time in Forever). It could take place when Anna is alone as we see in the teaser, possibly talking about how she feels hopeless without her sister, some darker side to her character, or even transitioning into her own "Let It Go" moment, whether she gains powers or not. |
| 1085 | |
| 1086 | * Anna needs another solo somewhere in the sequel. In Frozen, she only has "Do You Wanna Build A Snowman?" and the Broadway version has "True Love" for Anna. The tone of this next one could be sly or calm, sad or happy. |
| 1087 | |
| 1088 | * A song for Olaf, Kristoff and Sven- comical, yet it may become a classic. |
| 1089 | |
| 1090 | * Maybe another version of "When We're Together" from Olaf's Frozen Adventure could pull on one's heartstrings. The main voice actors will be leading. If Queen Iduna and King Agnarr return, then the sisters could sing with their parents... then the whole cast can appear again!{{Jossed}} |
| 1091 | |
| 1092 | * A song that sounds like something from a Franchise/{{Barbie}} film. A song of reuniting. Maybe Iduna sings with Elsa and Anna on her return to Arendelle. |
| 1093 | ** Evan Rachel Wood (who probably provides the voice of Iduna) has mentioned singing with Kristen Bell (Anna) for a secret project she wasn't allowed to name. It is presumably for a song in Frozen II. If it is true, then Idina Menzel (Elsa) is likely to sing with them too. |
| 1094 | ** It turns out that Anna doesn't sing with Iduna, but Elsa does in the epic song ''Show Yourself''. And Evan Rachel Wood does provide Iduna's voice. |
| 1095 | |
| 1096 | * A song that recaps the first movie from the viewpoints of the sisters, Kristoff and Olaf. They sing of how things have changed for the better while [[DramaticIrony blissfully unaware of controversies]] and other ongoing events, such as growing civil unrest, criticism headed their way for their trade embargo on Weselton and their bilateral relations with the Southern Isles. |
| 1097 | |
| 1098 | * Hans has a solo, something many suggested should he return. It would probably be seen as the antithesis to "Let It Go". Instead of singing on being free and running from problems, Hans would lament about how his life is worse than ever, how trapped and unhappy he is while [[NeverMyFault refusing to take responsibility for his crimes]], yet deep down [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone he's aware he might be wrong]]. Another way to echo back to "Let It Go", when Elsa looked at her glove, she got rid of it; when Hans does it, he looks at his scars, then he puts the glove back on in disgust and shame for what he did and what he's become. Perhaps the viewer can also see him manifest hidden magical powers, as shown in many fanfics. |
| 1099 | ** Either a reprise of the solo or a new song where Hans is alone. At first, the song sounds like a typical villain song, with Hans acting defiant but confused over events that have happened. He questions why things keep falling apart and why things never go his way, even questioning why the sisters of Arendelle are nothing like him and his family, yet live happier lives than them. He ultimately gives himself an ArmorPiercingQuestion making him realize... [[HeelRealization he's not the good person he used to be before he met them, but became just like the family he hated]]. The song stops sounding like a dastardly villain's music and begins to sound saddening and broken, matching how Hans feels and he ultimately decides to go into self-exile, unable to forgive himself and believing he's unworthy of redemption. As a call back to "Love Is An Open Door", Hans ends it with "I've wasted my whole life... there is no place for me." |
| 1100 | |
| 1101 | * A villain song. If Hans' father is the BigBad, the king will have a chance to sing. His song would probably be about [[{{Hypocrite}} how Hans is a disgrace to someone so "perfect and absolute"]] [[BlatantLies while blatant examples of his cruelty to people are shown.]] Like Hans in "Love is an Open Door", the king's greatness is fake, except far more so with his tone and expressions. It'll be more like "[[WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}} Mother Knows Best]]" or the first portion of "[[WesternAnimation/TheHunchbackOfNotreDameDisney Out There]]", where the respective villains Gothel and Frollo act like supporting parents while clear signs of their abuse and wickedness are shown towards Rapunzel and Quasimodo, respectively. |
| 1102 | |
| 1103 | * A song featuring another new character who acts as an ally. If Lars is introduced, it will be a reprise of "In Summer", similar to Olaf. Maybe Lars and Olaf could have a duet talking about their interests in history and summer respectively. Alternately, Hans' animal companion could have their own solo. |
| 1104 | |
| 1105 | * If Anna and Kristoff's relationship is in danger of falling apart, a song gets played by [[ShipperOnDeck Elsa]], with some minor help from Hans, to help bring them back together. Either he sings back-up or [[ActorAllusion as a nod to Santino Fontana]], plays the piano. If he sings then, like in "Love Is An Open Door", his words have double meaning, referring to both how Anna and Kristoff's relationship is important to both of them as well as how he's started to grow fond of Elsa, [[ObliviousToLove though she herself is oblivious]]. |
| 1106 | |
| 1107 | * A song featuring Hans and his brothers. If Lars is introduced, it will be a reprise of either "Do You Want to Build A Snowman", with him urging Hans to not shut out his good brother. And if Hans' other eleven brothers are introduced, they would want to reconcile with Hans to make up for the years of bullying (aside from urging him not to shut them out as well) [[HeelRealization after]] [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realizing]] that their father only cared for himself, so the audience could hear a reprise of "Making Today a Perfect Day". |
| 1108 | |
| 1109 | * A song featuring the Arendellers, Hans and his family, with Hans and his brothers [[CallingTheOldManOut calling their father out for his abuses]]. His father retorts that Hans should have followed his brothers [[EvilCannotComprehendGood and question why they are supporting Hans]]. And [[KirkSummation Anna, Kristoff and Elsa call the king out for his abuses]].{{Jossed}} |
| 1110 | |
| 1111 | * A song featuring Elsa, Anna, Kristoff, Olaf and Sven while they look over the autumnal forest in Frozen II. |
| 1112 | |
| 1113 | * A song called 'In Autumn'! It could be sung by the two new characters who appeared in the initial film trailer.{{Jossed}} |
| 1114 | |
| 1115 | * A reprise of Let It Go, only this time there are no underlying problems and everyone has truly [[EarnYourHappyEnding ended up better off]]. {{Jossed}} - maybe in a future Frozen film. |
| 1116 | |
| 1117 | * "Hygge" from the musical, if Oaken makes an appearance.{{Jossed}} |
| 1118 | |
| 1119 | * In a duet of Elsa and Anna, Elsa should sing the higher part and Anna sings the lower part, just like at the end of the song ''When We're Together'' in ''Olaf's Frozen Adventure''. {{Jossed}}, but this does happen with Elsa and Iduna in the final chorus of ''Show Yourself'' |
| 1120 | |
| 1121 | * IWantSong: One of Elsa's songs in Frozen II, titled ''Into the Unknown'', will likely be this, based on these lyrics from a doll: "Don't you know there's part of me that longs to go...into the unknown!" |
| 1122 | |
| 1123 | [[/folder]] |
| 1124 | |
| 1125 | [[folder: The Ending]] |
| 1126 | |
| 1127 | Although the ''beginning of Frozen II'' has been revealed to some people, the directors claim that they came up with the ending of the film first. Will they keep to this ending in the end? Most importantly, what may this ending involve...? |
| 1128 | |
| 1129 | Here are some possible ideas: |
| 1130 | * A celebration in Arendelle after a long journey to restore the four elements. |
| 1131 | * Agnarr and Iduna are alive; the sisters are especially overjoyed! |
| 1132 | * Anna and Kristoff get married. |
| 1133 | * Elsa shows no more signs of fear; she is truly happy, and so is everyone around her. |
| 1134 | |
| 1135 | [[spoiler:Partially confirmed. While the parents are not alive, the end involves Anna becoming Queen of Arendelle and Elsa embracing her role as the more nature-connected half of the Fifth Spirit, residing in the Enchanted Forest with the Northuldra. Nevertheless, the sisters' bond remains strong, and they get awesome new outfits in the epilogue!]] |
| 1136 | |
| 1137 | [[/folder]] |
| 1138 | |
| 1139 | [[folder: After Frozen II]] |
| 1140 | |
| 1141 | It's likely that after Frozen II, there will be a noticeable break between it and the next installment of ''Disney's Frozen'' franchise. Hopefully, the film will be successful in capturing the awe and wonder of the original film's audience, as well as enchanting a younger audience and generations to come. The next decade will probably provide some entertainment for those who adore Frozen. |
| 1142 | |
| 1143 | |
| 1144 | [[WMG: The sequel will ''not'' be the end of the franchise, but the start of more]] |
| 1145 | |
| 1146 | Given the popularity of the film, released in late 2013; the two short films released in 2015 and 2017; the books, and the huge line of merchandise, the sequel will be a chance to explore so much more afterwards. A UK West-End adaptation of Frozen will premiere in 2020. Even a potential animated series in the 2020s, and a chance to develop characters that the first film and the sequel do not focus on as much. |
| 1147 | |
| 1148 | Examples: |
| 1149 | |
| 1150 | * A short film celebrating Elsa's birthday, since ''Frozen Fever'' (2015) celebrated Anna's birthday. It takes place in the winter following ''Frozen II'' or maybe the year after that. |
| 1151 | ** It could be called ''Frozen Festivities'' (releasing around the mid-2020s), since Elsa's birthday being on the 21st or 22nd of December could mean that it is dismissed due to Christmas preparations. A generous member of Elsa's family prepares an extraordinary surprise for Elsa. |
| 1152 | * There is likely to be a short at some point from now that depicts some sort of celebration, whether it be a coronation, a wedding, a birthday, a Halloween-like event, or a great reunion. |
| 1153 | |
| 1154 | * Perhaps the 2020 Disney Pixar film ''Onward'' reflects on when "the world was magical in times of old" (i.e. Frozen and its trolls)... |
| 1155 | |
| 1156 | * A sci-fi theme - Perhaps we will see the characters in the present day (Frozen is supposed to be set in 1840s Norway). They might have appeared as spirits or even time-travelled. Maybe featuring in Doctor Who! |
| 1157 | |
| 1158 | * An episode on the servants Kai and Gerda serving Arendelle's royal family. |
| 1159 | |
| 1160 | [[WMG: There might be a film about the former monarchs of Arendelle - Iduna and Agnarr.]] |
| 1161 | |
| 1162 | The stories of contrasting yet fulfilled childhoods... a daughter of the "Northern Nomads"/ the Northuldra and the reasons behind Iduna becoming a queen; the prince with the hidden guilt of his father being the cause of Arendelle's problem with the elements (fire,water,earth,air). |
| 1163 | * Elsa and Anna are revealed to have been [[UnexpectedVirgin magically conceived]] so Iduna and Agnarr partially settle the issue of the elements with Arendelle. (Elsa's ice powers = water, and Anna has some other power.) |
| 1164 | |
| 1165 | * The film may not need to be a full-length feature , but it will embellish on what Frozen II might have not had the chance to do in regards to these characters. |
| 1166 | ** However, people who claim to have been at test screenings say that [[spoiler: the shrill voice that only Elsa hears is what leads her further north to the ship that her parents once travelled on.]] |
| 1167 | |
| 1168 | It could also show how they survived the storm on their voyage, whether it was thanks to magic, strong swimming skills or both. The real Maelstrom is a whirlpool to the northwest of Norway - the ship could have came close |
| 1169 | to there [[spoiler: and six years in-universe later, Elsa finds the shipwreck.]] |
| 1170 | * Ahtohallan is the name of the magical river that Iduna believes could hold many answers about the past, and more. |
| 1171 | ** Elsa finds the river in Frozen II, realising that it is a glacier (the river is frozen). Iduna may have realised this before; one of the notes she wrote on the map that the sisters and Olaf found on the shipwreck says: |
| 1172 | |
| 1173 | --> '''The end of the ice age. The river found but lost. Magic's source. Elsa's source?''' |
| 1174 | |
| 1175 | |
| 1176 | [[WMG: This might be the last full-length Frozen movie due to not wanting to risk any future movies seeming like a cash grab, but there may be shorts and/or a TV series instead.]] |
| 1177 | The Lion King has had two TV series (Timon & Pumbaa and The Lion Guard), and Tangled had a short and a TV series. Given Frozen's popularity, something like that isn't an impossibility. Perhaps a series could also be 2D-animated, like Tangled the Series is, and be in a similar style to the Frozen storybooks that are often seen in merch. |
| 1178 | |
| 1179 | [[WMG: Hooray for Frozen II! There ''must'' be some installment to follow the story; there should be a ''Frozen 3''.]] |
| 1180 | |
| 1181 | [[/folder]] |
| 1182 | |
| 1183 | |
| 1184 | |
| 1185 | !Post-release Theories |
| 1186 | |
| 1187 | [[folder:About the world]] |
| 1188 | [[WMG:Arendelle is a de facto city-state]] |
| 1189 | While the map shows Arendelle's borders covering a wider area, the palace and capital city are treated as effectively being the entire kingdom. That, combined with what we saw of the outlying areas in the first film, suggests most of the kingdom's territory outside the fjord consists mostly of sparsely inhabited wilderness that is only nominally claimed by Arendelle, not effectively controlled by it. |
| 1190 | [[/folder]] |
| 1191 | [[folder:About the future]] |
| 1192 | [[WMG: Elsa will have one son: Fridtjof Nansen]] |
| 1193 | A white-haired, blue-eyed Norwegian with a love of the outdoors and an aversion to marriage, who spent his entire life exploring the unknown whilst unbothered by the cold... guess he took after his mother. |
| 1194 | |
| 1195 | [[/folder]] |
| 1196 | [[folder:About the characters]] |
| 1197 | [[WMG: Elsa is the [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Avatar]]]] |
| 1198 | Think about it. During the span of the movie she travels through a forest and encounters representatives of each element, ultimately taming and befriending three of them. By the end she finds out she's part of the bridge that ties both worlds together. |
| 1199 | |
| 1200 | [[WMG: King Runeard was related to Hans]] |
| 1201 | Besides the fact that they look an awful lot like each other, there are several parallels between Hans and Runeard: [[spoiler:both are evil murderers [[BitchInSheepsClothing who can convincingly put up a front of being good and kind people]], both decided to murder innocents in service of their ambition, and the sequences where each committing (or attempting to commit) murder are framed identically.]] This might mean that Runeard was a prince from the Southern Isles who carried out the same scheme as Hans, but ''successfully'': marry an Arendellian princess and become King. |
| 1202 | |
| 1203 | [[WMG: There was a girl named Samantha...]] |
| 1204 | Years before the events of the original ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen|2013}}'', Samantha, a young girl in Arendelle, built a snowman. The snowman melted, the water evaporated and rejoined the water table, condensing into clouds that deposited snow on the face of the North Mountain. The snow remained undisturbed until Elsa, singing the first verse of "Let It Go", used her magic to recreate the snowman she and Anna made when they were kids. This is why Olaf has memories of a girl named Samantha, because his body contains water from the snowman Samantha built. After all, [[ArcWords "Water has memory."]] |
| 1205 | |
| 1206 | [[WMG: Building on the theory above, in the Frozen short Once Upon A Snowman, Olaf's original creator may be revealed to have been Samantha after all.]] |
| 1207 | |
| 1208 | As well as describing Olaf's first moments after Elsa brought him to life in Let It Go, the short will hopefully develop a backstory which finally introduces us to the mysterious Samantha. Olaf probably remembers her building him like how he remembered Anna and Elsa building him as young children. Their mother Iduna may have known about Samantha and her creation of Olaf the snowman, and inspired the sisters to recreate the snowman. In Olaf's Frozen Adventure, the story was about how Olaf helped maintain the sisters' love for each other. In his backstory, it should show how the sisters are just part of Olaf's magical story. |
| 1209 | |
| 1210 | [[WMG: Samantha may be Olaf's misnaming of another character...]] |
| 1211 | |
| 1212 | * Following on from the above theory, maybe Samantha had another friend. |
| 1213 | ''Think back to ''WesternAnimation/Frozen2013'', when Olaf meets Anna, Kristoff and Sven. She's not Elsa, though. Perhaps someone who has been misnamed by other names, but Samantha is the one made famous by Olaf...! |
| 1214 | |
| 1215 | [[WMG: Samantha is the mother telling the story in 'Myth: A Frozen Tale']] |
| 1216 | |
| 1217 | * Although it is only available on a virtual reality headset, a trailer introduced us to a family in the world of Frozen. Could the mother be Samantha with her family or a related family to Kristoff? |
| 1218 | |
| 1219 | [[WMG: Anna and Elsa's parents aren't dead after all]] |
| 1220 | She finds their ship but not their bodies. Elsa's ice sculpture of them doesn't move. Olaf points out that they're not here in the ship, so we're meant to assume that they drowned. But we all know how it goes when they NeverFoundTheBody. Maybe they were captured by some unknown villain and we'll need to go rescue them in Frozen 3. |
| 1221 | |
| 1222 | * Also, Elsa found a smashed mirror on the ship - 7 years' bad luck. Since the ship sank 6 years before, perhaps the next year.. they could be found alive! |
| 1223 | |
| 1224 | [[WMG: Something Elsa does in Ahtohallan will have some unforeseen effect on Hans]] |
| 1225 | One of the most memorable events in the movie is Elsa being frozen solid in Ahtohallan, something which has been foreshadowed earlier: ''Dive down deep into her sound, but not too far or you'll be drowned''. Now, something is off with that sentence: You'll be drowned. Not you '''will drown''', you '''will be drowned'''. Taking that into account, it may be that Elsa is frozen not because the Ahtohallan well is ''that'' cold, but some unseen force decides to freeze Elsa then and there lest she messes up something.\ |
| 1226 | Now, why would the Ahtohallan well be so concerned about Elsa's action? What if the memories in Ahtohallan is connected to the actual memories remembered by people outside, and physically mucking with these memories can cause them to become distorted or erased, in turn making people forget those memories exist or some worse problems? Elsa shatters a memory of Hans down in Ahtohallan, possibly causing the Ahtohallan well to register her as a hazard if she doesn't reign in her curiosity, and thus Elsa is frozen solid before she could act upon seeing the memory of Runeard killing the Northuldra chief, preventing a memory-related disaster whatever it is. Of course by then, the memory of Hans has been broken; who knows what happens to people who know him, or soon rather, used to know him? |
| 1227 | ** Alternatively, could Elsa's innocuous movement in Ahtohallan, a magical place meant to reflect the past, be the mirror of the original fairy tale? And what could the destruction of Hans's former self mean for his existence, assuming that he's still alive? |
| 1228 | |
| 1229 | [[WMG: The Water and Air spirits are human, but they couldn’t get to Arendelle in a timely manner.]] |
| 1230 | |
| 1231 | They heard the Siren call, but being on other sides of the earth sent constructs (Nøkk and Gale) as stand ins. If Elsa could create Olaf, the Snowgies and Marshmallow, it’s not to big of a stretch to think they could create similar constructs. |
| 1232 | |
| 1233 | [[WMG: Samantha, Kristoff and Yelana are related ]] |
| 1234 | |
| 1235 | * What if Yelana is Samantha's mother, and Samantha is Kristoff's mother, but neither of them realised this in Frozen II? They do share a similar hazel-brown eye colour too. Olaf may have sensed that Samantha was from the Enchanted Forest, but since Kristoff barely got to know his mother, his family history is rather unknown to him, apart from that his father was nicknamed 'Mountain Man' and was likely an ice harvester. |
| 1236 | |
| 1237 | * Samantha may even be Iduna's cousin, perhaps slightly younger than Iduna by a few years. It is possible that the Northuldra could have left the forest before the mist wall formed, so maybe Samantha left with her father to the outskirts of Arendelle, or even the Southern Isles, Weselton or another place in-universe. She met an ice harvester and soon had Kristoff, but due to some unforeseen circumstance, she had to escape from wherever she was, leaving Kristoff behind. Who knows? |
| 1238 | |
| 1239 | [[WMG: Kristoff and Sven's backstory will be developed in a short film, and their intriguing relations to other characters...]] |
| 1240 | |
| 1241 | Kristoff may discover his biological mother like the aforementioned theory suggests, or he might go on a journey to find her. Perhaps he's not a Northuldra, but part of a similar group. It is also possible that Iduna might not actually have been born as one of the Northuldra (even if Frozen II strongly suggested otherwise). Kristoff could be a blood relative to the sisters already. Other relatives may include a sister (a couple of years older than Kristoff) and a nephew who would be 8 years old at the time in-universe of Frozen II. |
| 1242 | |
| 1243 | As for Sven, maybe he was descended from the reindeer that young Iduna was carrying in the long Frozen II trailer. |
| 1244 | |
| 1245 | All related to the ice harvesters- the very first people to appear in the film(s) of Frozen. |
| 1246 | |
| 1247 | [[WMG: Hans's HeelRealization.]] |
| 1248 | |
| 1249 | While I don't know if the creators would ever incorporate his redemption, I thought of a scene where Hans finally realizes what Anna meant by having a "frozen heart." Although he's banned from Arendelle, he secretly slips back in. Why he's there is unknown, but it's implied he did want to meet with Anna. But whatever his motives, when he notes how the heroes are happy despite a modest appearance, Hans at last understands how worthless and miserable his own life has been compared to them and turns back in sadness. |
| 1250 | |
| 1251 | [[WMG: Supernatural beings saving life for a firstborn.]] |
| 1252 | The call Iduna made when holding Agnar was later used to call Elsa to Ahtohallan. For a child with a dying friend in her arms it wouldn't be that strange to make such a promise if those fairytales are known to her. Does any fairytale of Hans Christian Andersen contain BabyAsPayment? |
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