Line #138 WMG/DeadOrAlive


1	[[WMG: Raidou's original hair colour]]
2	Within the context of the series Raidou is always seen as old with grey hair. However Ayane has lavender hair while her mother Ayame has brown/black hair. This would mean that Raidou's original hair colour was...
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4	[[WMG: There was going to be a connection between Ayane and Christie but it was dropped when Ayane became more of a heroine]]
5	While Ayane was never depicted as flat-out evil, her role was a bit more morally ambiguous namely on how Ayane was originally known as the one whom killed Helena's mother. Granted Christie has been revealed to be the one whom killed Helena's mother and was sent to kill Helena. However in ''Dead or Alive 2'' when Helena tried to approach Ayane in rage accusing Ayane of killing her Mother, Ayane was pretty much mocking her questioning on whether if that was true. Granted Ayane wasn't flat out confirming it but she wasn't exactly denying it either. It seems oddly coincidental on how Ayane would make cover-up attempts over a murder she had nothing to do with. However by the time that happened Ayane was becoming more of a heroine especially during the modern ''VideoGame/NinjaGaiden'' series. Which is the real reason why Ayane no longer had anything to do with the murder of Helena's Mother. I mean what? Where they worried about the potential [[UnfortunateImplications implications]] of a teenager getting involved with a grown adult whom occasionally dabbles in nudism if Ayane and Christie did work together? (Granted I am sure certain fans wouldn't mind the [[GirlOnGirlIsHot "Potential Mental Imagery"]] there but still.)
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7	[[WMG:''Xtreme Beach Volleyball'' is real and ''Dead or Alive'' is fake.]]
8	* The ''DOA'' tournaments were as real as professional wrestling, the ''DOA'' girls are just actresses, and their backgrounds are just made up for the sake of plot. They're only fighting merely for entertainment and titillation. In ''Xtreme Beach Volleyball'' the girls act as who they really are.
9	** What about the male characters other than Zack?
10	*** I think they're BOTH "real", it's just that the ''Volleyball'' games are the equivalent of a BeachEpisode -- canon, perhaps, but not important to the plot. [[DontExplainTheJoke And my apologies if I'm]] ComicallyMissingThePoint.
11	*** Only the hunkier and fanservice men are just as fake, while the rest make up for it with their legitimate skills.
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13	[[WMG:''Ninja Gaiden'' (''Sigma'' and ''Sigma 2''), ''DOA'', and ''Volleyball'' are the past of the Halo Universe]]
14	* DOATEC in ''Dead or Alive'' is trying to create super soldiers in the form of Project Epsilon (Hayate and Kasumi), and Project ALPHA-152 (Kasumi X and ALPHA-152). The data from the research is preserved long enough to be used by Project Orion aka the Spartan I project and Project HAYABUSA. This explains why Master Chief is so good at his job, he is an enhanced Ryu Hayabusa clone.
15	** Well, Nicole's story in ''Dead or Alive 4'' suggest that she's from the ilovebees alternate universe of ''Halo'', so this theory may hold some ground.
16	*** And quite possibly enforced by the fact that Nicole and Rachel (introduced in ''Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate'') have similar movesets.
17	*** Technically, ''ARG/ILoveBees'' is [[LooseCanon kind of canon]], but your general point is pretty solid.
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19	[[WMG: The [[Franchise/{{Metroid}} Samus]] cameo in ''Dead or Alive: Dimensions'' is a [[AscendedMeme nod to]] ''WebOriginal/{{Haloid}}'']]
20	* The Fan Video was popular among Team Ninja, so they decided to put the ''Metroid'' stage in as a ShoutOut.
21	** That, or it was worked out as a deal during the collaboration between Nintendo and Team Ninja for ''VideoGame/MetroidOtherM''.
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23	[[WMG: Kokoro will not be returning in ''[=DOA5=]'']]
24	The canon storyline will have her defeated before reaching Helena, thus she'll just have gotten her confidence beaten out of her and sent home to mummy.
25	* The code of the demo seems to have {{Jossed}} this as Kokoro's name is in the demo code.
26	** Indeed, something to bear in mind about ''Dead or Alive'' is that the series does include characters who either don't participate or ''can't'' participate anymore (like Gen-Fu or Ein, respectively) as bonus characters with no story. So in this case there's a chance you may both be right (she has no plot relevance and thus cannot be selected for Story Mode but will still appear as playable in other areas of the game; based on the leaked character roster).
27	*** {{Jossed}} to the deepest part of Hell. E3 shows that Kokoro is in the roster, and part of the story to boot.
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29	[[WMG: The next game [[DarkerAndEdgier will REALLY push the boundaries of its "M" Rating]]... [[ThatCameOutWrong No, not]] [[HGame THAT way...]]]]
30	Considering how Kasumi is now a guest star in ''[[Videogame/NinjaGaiden Razor's Edge]]'', and [[OneManArmy perfectly capable of committing the same bloodletting violence as Ryu and Ayane]], this Troper thinks it's some {{Foreshadowing}} that ''[=DOA6=]'' will have scenes that are BloodierAndGorier to match. Granted, [[GameplayAndStorySegregation there probably won't be any fatalities in any in-game matches]], but the [[CerebusSyndrome story mode can easily escalate in serious violence and drama onscreen]], [[TheClimax especially towards the climax]]. Bonus points if [[ActionSurvivor the other, non-ninja fighters]] [[BreakTheCutie get caught up in the whole mess in the worst way possible...]]
31	* Surprisingly, Confirmed! What little has been seen of ''VideoGame/DeadOrAlive6'' proves that it is already establishing itself as BloodierAndGorier (albeit in a Downplayed sense, in that the worst shown (so far) is fighters [[HighPressureBlood sending blood flying with their hits]], usually ending matches with [[FacialHorror visible bruising on their faces]] (subverting BeautyIsNeverTarnished), and that some characters (namely the ninjas like Kasumi, Ryu and Hayate) [[SwordAndFist use various weapons]] [[CombatPragmatist in addition to their martial arts]]), and that the tone is more "serious" than the previous games, including downplaying the sex appeal from "cartoonishly exaggerated" to "still attractive, but [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome won't be for long in]] [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown a full-on fight]]". [[OnSecondThought Of course,]] [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt this all depends on whether or not Team Ninja doesn't roll back these changes in the wake of an outcry from the fans like they did LAST TIME with their "I'm A Fighter" campaign]] in DeadOrAlive5, so take it with a grain of salt...
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33	[[WMG: There will be a third ''DOA Extreme'' game but it will be one big AffectionateParody of itself and its fanservice-laden WorldOfBuxom nature.]]
34	Naturally this will try to push the M-Rating as much as possible, in which this be more dialogue driven and the game will play up certain aspects like the LesYay in the series a lot more. A lot of the characterization in the game will be due to which DOA girls will you pair with (in which some pairings will be a lot friendlier than others). Some character pairings will probably have little to no LesYay (or any interaction at all) while others will play it as much as possible. (But any ShipTease will most likely be PlayedForLaughs of course.) However, the fact that fans often like to pair the ladies with each-other (often due to [[GirlOnGirlIsHot fanservice]]) won't be the only thing that will be mocked, as character interactions can also lead to other gags such as the ladies trying to comment on various other parts of the series' storyline and try to understand them.
35	** I think that, if it went this way, it should also throw out a few NoYay gags. Especially for the increasingly popular pairings of [[YouKilledMyFather Helena]]/[[PsychoForHire Christie]], and [[IncestYayShipping Kasumi/Ayane]].
36	*** True while I am sure that Kasumi/Ayane will mutually agree with that but as for Helena/Christie while Helena will most likely agree with that but one can't be too sure about Christie. Whether if Christie would let's just say agree with Helena or not could make for some good comedic material.
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38	[[WMG:There will one day be a proper ''VideoGame/VirtuaFighter'' vs ''Dead or Alive'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prLYrWW3tdU crossover game.]]]]
39	There will be roughly 15 to 20 characters from each series, each being a counter to another, such as [[DrunkenMaster Shun Di vs. Brad Wong]] or [[{{Ninja}} Kage vs. Ryu]]. The core gameplay will be done by [=AM2=] while Team Ninja will do the character models, story, and overall presentation.
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41	The story will involve DOATEC and J6 being competitors in a sort of arms race to see who can create the perfect fighter. Both have their own tournaments to choose fighters to experiment on and gather data, and each one accuses the other of ripping off the idea. DOATEC went for cloning and genetic research while J6 opted more towards robotics and cyborgs with the occasional brainwashing and child soldier. Their covert war will turn overt, and fighters from both sides end up involved in the conflict.
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43	[[WMG: Kasumi's status as of the end of ''[=DOA5=]'' is that of an exile.]]
44	She appears to be a guest in the Hayabusa village and wears the appropriate uniform. Its possible that Hayate, as head of the Mugen Tenshin clan, has found a LoopholeAbuse to RulesLawyer away the death sentence on Kasumi's head. He had Ryu adopt her as a sibling, thus any attempt to harm Kasumi would involve declaring war on an old and trusted (not to mention [[OneManArmy freaking powerful]]) ally. As a formal member of the Hayabusa clan, Kasumi is not subject to death squads anymore but is now exiled from her home village. This is not so bad since Hayate and Ayane are both frequent visitors to the Hayabusa village and while the Mugen Tenshin elders probably are not too happy about it, the fact is that the head of the Hajinmon Sect (Ayane) follows Hayate's every command and he himself is the head of the Tenjinmon Sect, there really is no one in a position to challenge the legal fiction.
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46	[[WMG: [[TheBrute Phase-4]] will be revealed to be [[spoiler: [[ActuallyADoombot "False" Kasumi]] from ''Dead or Alive 5'']]]]
47	It would serve to give [[spoiler: "False" Kasumi]] more than a RedHerring status, and would serve as [[DramaticIrony a bitterly ironic twist of the knife]] to [[spoiler: Ayane and Hayate]]. "Hey, remember that "[[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman soulless monster]]" you cut down earlier? Yeah, turns out it's BackFromTheDead (or at least was NotQuiteDead as you thought), and is now [[spoiler: [[MistreatmentInducedBetrayal fighting FOR Donovan after you tried to kill her, in spite of her believing she was always on your same side]].]]" This would also serve as a TearJerker-loaded setup for a [[spoiler: MirrorMatch between Kasumi and Phase-4[=/=]"False" Kasumi, with [[BoomerangBigot Phase-4 thinking Kasumi is another one of her "clones"]] [[GottaKillEmAll that she needs to kill off]] (or, alternatively, [[WhatTheHellHero calling Kasumi out for wanting to kill clones with thoughts and feelings of their own]]), and [[GoMadFromTheRevelation Kasumi becoming shocked and horrified]] that her clones aren't all AlwaysChaoticEvil (like [[EvilTwin Kasumi-Alpha]] or [[EnergyBeings Alpha-152]] were), [[HeelRealization and realizing she's become as much a bloodthirsty monster as some of the villains of the series for wanting to kill her clones out of her hatred for them]].]]
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49	[[WMG: Brad Wong isn't Chinese]]
50	Brad is an American hippie who somehow found himself in China when he was younger and learned drunken kung fu. Brad isn't exactly a very Asian name, and he just calls himself "Wong" because it sounds cool. One of his outfits is a cowboy after all.
51	* He could always be [[ButNotTooForeign of American descent]] despite being born in China.
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53	[[WMG:There's going to be a final ''[=DOA5=]'' revision that adds back more of the playable characters from previous ''DOA'' titles (Raidou, Tengu, Genra, Kasumi Alpha, Shiden, etc.), along with a few more faces from ''Ninja Gaiden'' and ''Virtua Fighter''.]]
54	Of course, this would conflict with the existence of ''[=DOA5=] Ultimate'', since it would no longer be the "ultimate" version of ''[=DOA5=]'', but there's already ''Ultimate: Arcade'', so there's a chance for that version to be eventually ported back to consoles or made into a DLC update.
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56	Naturally, [[DreamMatchGame any of the long-deceased boss characters would be non-plot entities]], and of the aforementioned characters, Tengu and Kasumi Alpha may be phased out entirely due to Nyotengu and Phase-4's presence in ''Arcade''.
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58	''Ninja Gaiden'' is ripe with characters to use, although it's likelier that the modern trilogy--and guys like Murai, Genshin, Regent of the Mask, or any of the more humanoid Greater Fiends--would see more representation with the precedent set by ''DOA'' and its chronology (the only exceptions would be Irene or the more probable Jô Hayabusa).
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60	As for ''VF'', Kage-Maru could make for a good rep. Why Kage? [[GratuitousNinja Because ninjas, that's why.]] Plus, the possibility of a Double Izuna Drop tag throw with Ryu (or alternatively, Kage-Maru's Hagakure-ryu You Ko'enraku into a leaping sideways Izuna like in Ryu and Tina's tag throw) [[RuleOfCool is too good an opportunity (and insanely awesome) to pass up on]].
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62	... You know what? Let's add Dural into the mix. With that, "humanoid bioweapon created by shadowy organization that is connected to a ninja" can be emphasized among the list of ''DOA''/''VF'' parallels (as touched upon in the above crossover WMG).
63	** Raidou is confirmed to return in ''Last Round''.
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65	[[WMG:Honoka is another one of MIST's experiments.]]
66	She's shown to be a tag parter with the cybernetically-enhanced Raidou, there's something unusual about her gloved right hand, and she can copy other people's fighting moves through observation (which Raidou could also do). She could very well be another cyborg of some kind, or a genetically engineered SuperSoldier prototype.
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68	[[WMG:VideoGame/SenranKagura Collaboration Costume Pack Foreshadows some characters in Dead or Alive 6]]
69	Imply this as a possibility for some characters in the next game:
70	* Lisa : Like Rin, both were supposed to be dead when sacrifice themselves helping the heroes against the villains, and thus revealed to be alive.
71	* Phase 4 : Phase 4 [[IJustWantToBeNormal wants to be human]], yes? Cosplaying as Ikaruga implies to change her identity into that of human identity and different than Kasumi, such as her changing her hairstyle and dyes to black, also her fighting style.
72	* Ayane and Honoka: Yagyuu reminds Hibari her late-younger sister, while Ayane and Honoka relates to [[IHateYouVampireDad Raidou]] if Honoka turns out to be Raidou's illegitimate daughter, making Honoka is Ayane's younger half-sister, but is too innocent to handle that kind of power she has like Raidou's, thus vowing to protect them from something bad happens to them. This may also cause Ayane realize what she is fighting for, Mugen Tenshin, herself or both? Following [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight a bit of what Kasumi does in the past when she becomes rogue in order to save Hayate.]]
73	* Kasumi and Momiji: Due their similarities being a NiceGirl, they are implied to be best friends since their clan Hayabusa and Mugen Tenshin are allies for generation. They are like Asuka and Homura who only has more friendships minus rivalries.
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75	[[WMG: New playable characters and returning characters guesses for Dead Or Alive 6.]]
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77	Confirmed characters:
78	* Kasumi
79	* Jann Lee
80	* Zack
81	* Ryu Hayabusa
82	* Helena Douglas
83	* Hayate
84	* Rig Donovan
85	* Diego (New Character)
86	* Ayane
87	* Bayman
88	* Marie Rose
89	* Honoka
90	* Nyotengu
91	* Phase-4
92	* Lei Fang
93	* Bass Armstrong/Mr. Strong
94	* Tina Armstrong
95	* Hitomi
96	* Christie
97	* Brad Wong
98	* Kokoro
99	* Eliot
100	* La Mariposa
101	* Mila
102	* [=NiCO=] (New Character)
103	* Mai Shiranui
104	* Raidou
105	* Kula Diamond
106	* Rachel
107	* Tamaki
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109	Returning characters:
110	* Gen Fu
111	* Shiden
112	* Leon
113	* Ein
114	* Tengu/Gohyakumine Bankotsubo
115	* Kasumi Alpha (Non-canon Bonus Boss)
116	* Genra/Omega
117	* Lisa Hamilton
118	* Alpha-152 (Non-canon Bonus Boss)
119	* Nicole-458
120	* False Kasumi (Non-canon Bonus Character)
121	* Momiji
122	* Li Naotora
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124	New characters:
125	* Ayame
126	* Niki
127	* Victor Donovan (Final Boss)
128	* Irene Lew
129	* Misaki
130	* Luna
131	* The Barbarian
132	* Bomberhead
133	* Basaquer
134	* Bloody Malth
135	* Fiona
136	* Nagisa
137	* Kanna
138	* Monica
139	* Sayuri
140	* Patty
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142	[[WMG: Future Guest Characters guessings pool]]
143	After Ii Naotora and Mai Shiranui, it seemed that ''Dead or Alive'' is going to be attracting some more Guest characters. More likely, they would use characters that are by default busty ladies and from a game that contains a lot of actions.
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145	Let the guessing begin.
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147	* Tifa Lockehart: In a coup/marketing gimmick for FFVII remake, Team Ninja convince Square-Enix to let them recreate Dead Fantasy.
148	* Litchi Faye-Ling: She'll not become a costume like other ASW ladies but become a full-blown character, because staff combat-aside, her fighting style is the closest that can be replicated into a DOA fighting style. And like Naotora, her lines can be dubbed because they already had Creator/LaurenLanda on board (as Kasumi).
149	* [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Brandon, May, Wally]] or [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Diantha]]: Either one of them will make an appearance in the next Nintendo release, except they will be sending out Gardevoir (which will fight similarly in VideoGame/PokkenTournament) to battle on their behalf.
150	* [[Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog Rouge]]: We know that Sonic is a family-friendly Universe (and while Shadow's own game caused some DarkerAndEdgier SeriousBusiness based Sonic games to PutOnABus for almost a decade after ''Sonic Unleashed''), Rouge would be a kind of fitting FunnyAnimal guest for a HotterAndSexier game.
151	* [[VideoGame/{{Nioh}} William Adams]]: Everyone liked Nioh and it takes place in the same universe or something plus William is like immortal or something so time isn't a problem for him.
152	* [[Series/{{Arrow}} Oliver Jonas Queen]]: If ''[[VideoGame/{{Tekken}} Tekken 7]]'' can have [[Series/TheWalkingDead Negan]] of all people as a GuestFighter, then I think that ''VideoGame/DeadOrAlive6'' should have its own American Live-Action Show Guest as well. Besides, it'd be cool to have an archer as part of the playable cast.
153	* [[Toys/NewTestamentSDGundamGaidenSaddracKnightSaga Valkyrie Gundam Hazel]]: While an ''Franchise/SDGundam'' character, she's one of [[EnsembleDarkhorse the most popular characters]] from her home work, and her [[AdaptiveAbility Adaptive Abilities]] could make her fun to play as.
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155	[[WMG: Dead or Alive 6 will mark the end of Kasumi's story.]]
156	It feels like her story has been going for too long. Especially for a franchise that's been around for more than 20 years.

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