Line #35 WMG/ChildOfTheStorm


1	All theories are to be placed in the relevant folder. Beware, for unmarked spoilers for ''Child of the Storm'', ''Chaos Reigns'' and ''Ghosts of the Past'' abound.
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3	[[folder: Confirmed]]
4	[[WMG: Wanda and Magneto will have a discussion about parenting.]]
5	I know this is unlikely but with Wanda and Magneto both being absentee parents... There could be an interesting conversation to be had here about who was the better parent or had the better reason.
6	** Confirmed in chapter 80, though the conversation is more along the lines of mutual regret at their failings as parents.
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8	[[WMG: Barty Crouch Jr. will serve as Voldemort's [[TheDragon Dragon]]]]
9	If the story keeps to this bit of canon, then he'll have already been smuggled out of Azkaban by his father, which means he wouldn't have been present for Gravemoss's breakout of the Death Eaters and subsequent purge of all Voldemort die-hards. And with the new boost to his telepathy courtesy of the power stolen from Harry, Voldemort could easily track him down and reassert his control over him.
10	** Chapter 2 of ''Ghosts of the Past'' confirms this, though Crouch seems to have his own free will.
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12	[[WMG:The events of Literature/DeadBeat will happen soon, and Dresden will ask for SHIELD or Avengers support.]]
13	And things will go even further OffTheRails when Voldemort and Selene show up to claim the Word of Kemmler as per their alliance.
14	** Happens in ''Ghosts of the Past,'' though SHIELD and the Avengers are unable to assist thanks to the Red Court's BatmanGambit.
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16	[[WMG: Doctor Strange is FakingTheDead]]
17	The man is one of the most powerful beings in the universe. He can time travel, can do magic people barely even dream about and can see the future. Something like faking his own death should be easy.
18	How did he do it? He didn't. He decided that, when he was to actually die in a gajillion years, he would time travel to the right point, so that, upon his death, Wanda would take the position of Sorceress Supreme.
19	Why did he do it? Two reasons. The first is that he needs to carry out several missions that require certain degree of stealth, which would be a bit hard if people know he's around: with Wanda at the helm, people will think he's not around anymore, and Strange will have free hands to plan and act from the shadows. The second is that he knows [[HoldingOutForAHero people are relying a bit too much on his almost-omniscience and -omnipotency to solve the big problems]], so, by stepping back, he forces people to step up and stand on their own, while he remains hidden, only acting if it is ''really'' needed.
20	* Mostly confirmed, but the specific method laid out here is Jossed, as is the second reason, as he is very explicitly ''not'' the Sorceror Supreme anymore (in fact, one of the missions[=/=]errands he pulled off while presumed dead was only possible because of that) and]] he openly revealed his survival to the Avengers, et al, as well as Dumbledore, [=McGonagall=], Ron, and Hermione just four days later.
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22	[[WMG: Peter Parker will still become some kind of hero in this 'verse]]
23	Judging by how much the author has stated he enjoys Peter and ships Peter/MJ ''hard'', it's hard to imagine that he won't keep Peter around. Sure, Peter could potentially stay alive and not become a hero... but we're talking about the TropeNamer for WithGreatPowerComesGreatResponsibility. Additionally, my guess is that he will receive some kind of SuperEmpowering beyond the Grey Court bite that will kick-start his abilities.
24	** Confirmed in ''Unfinished Business'': he gets bitten by one or several of the spiders that Doctor Lake a.k.a. Nimue is keeping in her cottage, implied to be magic-based super soldier experiments from Project Pegasus. This reawakens some of the vampire traits and gives him most of the classic powers, making him a mix between classic Peter Parker and [[ComicBook/SpiderMan2099 Miguel O'Hara]].
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26	[[WMG: Magneto could end up being a recurring character]]
27	Since it's revealed that Voldemort got a power upgrade, courtesy of Selene and Magneto has been developed as an enemy to the Hellfire Club then I see both Voldemort and Selene joining forces to take down the Avengers. Which also means the Hellfire Club could play a huge part in this arc and Magneto could serve as an ally of the Avengers to bring forth revenge against the Hellfire Club and Selene.
28	** Though while Magneto has been established as despising the Hellfire Club and frequently purging its members, Voldemort seems to have ruled out direct confrontation with the Avengers for the time being.
29	** He's certainly become a secondary character, and does indeed ally with Wanda and Dresden to fight Riddle and Selene. So, kinda confirmed. He also shows up multiple times thereafter.
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31	[[WMG: Annihilus will play a major antagonistic role in a future volume.]]
32	I mean, come on. I really want it to happen and it's a possibility anyways.
33	He's implied to be the reason the Phoenix exists and chooses hosts(not Destruction of the Endless herself, but the Phoenix part of her) when Doctor Strange says "Of course, sometimes, a threat is so great that the universe has to solve its own problems. In this case… cue the Phoenix." If that is the case, then he would simply be too great a threat to simply ignore. If he was merely a one-mention character he wouldn't ever appear, but he continues to appear afterwards, most notably in Harry's first past vision. And if you remember the author's use of foreshadowing, that could mean he could appear in a future volume. Most likely not ''Ghosts of the Past'', but the volumes after it.
34	** WordOfGod has stated that Annihilus is far from the only one reason the Phoenix has hosts (as in, threats like him are part of why, but he's not the only reason). However, he has also hinted at a reappearance.
35	** He reappears in ''Phoenix and the Serpent'' fighting Sunniva, but it's not exactly a major role, so kinda
36	** And then completely confirmed in chapter 9.
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40	[[folder: Open]]
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42	[[WMG: "Nimbus Llewelyn" is actually a fourth-wall-breaking Doctor Strange.]]
43	There are a ''lot'' of similarities between the two, and [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou it would explain]] how Strange got onto the The Omniscient Council Of Vagueness and WMG/TimeLord pages. It would definitely suit his sense of humor. Besides, let's face it--do we really think a little thing like the fourth wall would or could stop [[MemeticBadass Doctor Strange]]?
44	** WordOfGod has denied this, but he would, wouldn't he?
45	** Did he ''deny'' it, or did he just ''[[ExactWords imply]]'' that he isn't?
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47	[[WMG:Magneto will speak with Harry Dresden about the latter's relationship with Wanda.]]
48	In chapter 76, when told that Magneto is Wanda's father, Dresden reflects on the fact that he had imagined Nicodemus Archleone dropping by to learn what he was doing with his (other) daughter. Magneto appears in battle in the next chapter. [[SignatureStyle More]] {{Foreshadowing}}? [[SarcasmMode Impossible.]]
49	** In chapter 78, [[TwerpSweating he seems about to do exactly that,]] while Dresden tries to hide behind Wanda (which, since he's over a foot taller than her, is an enterprise doomed to failure), but Wanda just glares at him and says, 'Father, don't you dare', whereupon he backs down.
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51	[[WMG:The mysterious Lady Knight is...]]
52	While she finally pops up in ''The Phoenix and the Serpent'' and gives out names to a few of her former identities, no one actually knows who she really is.
53	** Carol
54	** Ginny
55	** The equally mysterious Spitfire I.
56	*** Especially since they NeverFoundTheBody and there's also a throwaway line in chapter 21 that says that "she was close to unstoppable with a sword," and according to a blink-and-you'll-miss-it line in chapter 40, she was a time traveller, and like the below-mentioned Peggy, mysteriously does not appear as one of the dead at the Battle of London, with her fate per Strange being "wibbly wobbly timey wimey". Hmmm... of course, that raises the question of who ''Spitfire'' was.
57	** Gwen Stacey. Given the author's known Peter/MJ leanings (on his profile page, he '''very firmly''' states that his OTP is Peter/Mary Jane), it would conveniently get rid of Gwen and leave the field clear for MJ, without having to actually kill her off (or it may seem like she's dead to everyone else). The fact that Gwen has already been built up as a friend of Harry's, brave under pressure, and on the fringes of multiple supernatural events could lend credence to this idea.
58	** Peggy Carter, who disappeared in the 60s. And according to Doctor Strange, it's "[[Series/DoctorWho wibbly wobbly timey wimey]]".
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61	** Saber, from Fate/stay night, since it was said that the Lady Knight is trapped on her endless quest.
62	*** Jossed by WordOfGod, who isn't much of an anime fan.
63	** Betsy, who's already described as being good with a sword, and quite beautiful, just as the Lady Knight was. The psychic powers could also account for the reason no one is exactly sure what she looked like (how hard would it be for an Alpha-class psychic to cast an illusion to slightly change her features?) Sure, the Lady Knight was ''said'' not to have any other powers, but it's never stated for sure, is it? Not to mention that she has an already-existing connection to Fandral, perhaps explaining why she chose/will choose him as a protege. And telepathy would make it very easy to pick up more sword skills, at least partially explaining her legendary status.
64	*** Jossed, when Harry finally meets her in ''The Phoenix and the Serpent'' he notes that she's an otherwise ordinary human with nanotech enhancement that she can turn on and off.
65	** Sif or Diana
66	*** Both seemingly jossed, as Hal's Ring identified her as human.
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68	[[WMG:The Harrys (Potter and Dresden) will have to combine their fire power to deal with a certain threat.]]
69	And much SnarkToSnarkCombat will ensue.
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71	[[WMG: Bruce Wayne might join Harry and his group later in the story]]
72	And the interactions between Harry and Bruce will be hilarious. Also, the team could use a tech guy.
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74	[[WMG: Carol will either keep the ring or gain a power near that of the Green Lantern.]]
75	While she is the strategist of the group and a super soldier like Steve and Bucky, she may need a boost in order to continue to punch above her weight class.
76	** Well, she got the blood transfusion from Harry at the end of ''Bloody Hell'', so we'll have to see if that does anything.
77	** In ''Unfinished Business'' her energy-absorbing shield turns out to be a MorphWeapon that can turn into armour much like her canon Captain Marvel suit, which also allows her to use absorbed energy for low-level FlyingBrick and FlyingFirePower, then after the original Lantern is broken, she's able to substitute her suit for the Lantern to directly mainline Earth's magic. It's implied that the magical blood allows her to channel this power without burning out.
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79	[[WMG: One of the reasons Strange was so interested in Harry is preventing the Civil War arc.]]
80	Harry's presence seems to have strengthened the bonds of the Avengers so it's entirely possible that this will cause them to peacefully talk out their issues until they come to a solution instead of splintering.
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82	[[WMG: Doctor Strange will end up becoming a BigBad in future instalments.]]
83	Given the way he threw his weight around towards the Gods in Chapter 17 of ''Ghosts Of The Past'', even some of the reviewers commented that was Strange's JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope moment.
84	** Afterwards, he seems to have pulled himself back from the edge, but it's indicated that he's still not entirely all there.
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86	[[WMG: The third child of Trelawney's prophecy is Billy Kaplan]]
87	My reasoning for this is patchy at best, but I think Wiccan would be one of the few characters who could fit thematically, and could fit into the description of "a memory in a cocoon of frozen time" without stretching his canon backstory too far.
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89	We know Wanda struggled with her powers when she was younger, so it's possible she caused something M-Day-esque resulting in the 'births' of Tommy and Billy. If this event was then undone, possibly involving reverting the timeline Wanda created, then the description could fit. At the very least, the Young Avengers program has been mentioned, so there's a connection to Billy implied already.
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91	Billy has a very, very similar story to both canon and COS Harry; a seemingly ordinary boy who was actually born under extraordinary circumstances and given incredible supernatural abilities. In canon he's a future Sorcerer Supreme, and his powers as the Demiurge are at least enough to put him in the same power ranking as Harry, Clark and Maddie.
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93	Aside from that, Harry effectively has three power sets. His physical abilities, his psychic abilities and his magical abilities. Clark and Maddie both outclass Harry in one aspect of his powers, so it would make sense for the third child to be his superior magically.
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95	Also I just really, really want it to be Billy.
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97	** Could also be [[ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} Kara Zor-El]]. I don't know too much about her comics incarnation, but I believe that she could be "a memory of Krypton," with her rocket trapped "in a cocoon of frozen time."
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99	[[WMG: Characters that will maybe make a (re-)appearance.]]
100	* [[Literature/GoodOmens Aziraphale and Crowley]]: Given the references to ''Good Omens'' and the fact that Nimbus is a Gaiman and Pratchett fan, it's entirely possible that this could happen, even if they'll be limited to cameos.
101	** Especially since the [[spoiler: Jesus]] appearance seems to have gone down pretty well. Thor and Loki also mentioned being friends with them back in [=CoS=]. Also, Nimbus wrote a short story about Crowley being on door duty in hell - it's entirely possible that the [=CoS=] 'verse will meet him there (if the narration ever goes that way).
102	* Maybe AntiAntiChrist Adam Young as well.
103	* [[Literature/TheDresdenFiles Sanya]] - a Russian cursing badass swordsman (and actual knight, though he downplays it) usually shlepping more guns than a medium armory and covert alien conspiracy theorist? He and Harry would get on like a house on fire!
104	** So would Hermione and Molly Carpenter, probably.
105	* One of the [[Creator/JRRTolkien Valar or Maia]] - they ''would'' be Harry's family, so we might see them (although the story seems to be going the route that Loki inspired Tolkien, befitting Loki we don't know which if any of the things he told Tolkien are true, or if they're ''all'' fictional).
106	* A [[Franchise/IndianaJones certain]] adventurer archaeologist - since James Bond already briefly came along in order to be quickly killed off, maybe we'll get Indiana Jones cameo in an argument with customs or law enforcement over some property damage or theft of cultural heritage?
107	** He could also stumble across something from Akkaba...
108	* The children Harry saved from being turned by Annihilus and who were the first of all the many to ally with him in order to throw said abomination out of our universe just before Harry and Sunniva go into Sakaar may turn up again - even if it's only for a small cameo (something like Dr. Strange bringing them to Harry's birthday ...along with an agenda, of course).
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110	[[WMG: Nimbus is using ExactWords when he says that Bruce Wayne won't become Batman.]]
111	Bruce ''is'' going to become a CrazyPrepared BadassNormal superhero who relies on intelligence, tech, and martial arts, he just won't become Batman. And that's because Batman was very thoroughly shaped by the murder of his parents - which, in the [=CoS=] 'verse, was prevented by the intervention of Harry Dresden.
112	** [[SarcasmMode Nimbus using Exact Words to fool his readers? Inconceivable!]]
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114	[[WMG: Who wrote the EvilOverlordList InUniverse?]]
115	* Doctor Strange - he made Wanda memorise it; and it would be in character for him to think it funny.
116	* Even funnier would be someone ''else'' going: "oh, I know it wasn't Strange, because it was me" sometime:
117	** Loki of course is a candidate
118	** Toni Stark isn't impossible, either
119	** Or Jesus (come ''on'': you have to justify that "bad influence on ''Loki''" thing ''somehow'')
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121	[[WMG: Peggy Carter will enter the story as a recurring character when Harry returns from the time-traveling jaunt he takes when he's 17.]]
122	** Peggy disappeared around the same time as the Angel of Cuba incident (and is not confirmed to be dead).
123	** It's been outright stated that the First Class of X-Men know who or what the Angel of Cuba was.
124	** It's been very strongly implied that the First Class of X-Men know exactly what happened to Peggy - especially since Alison Carter, her daughter, was one of their number.
125	** It's also been very strongly implied that Harry was the Angel of Cuba.
126	** According to Doctor Strange, what happened to Peggy is "wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey"
127	** Put all of that together and it seems pretty likely that when Harry returned to his present, Peggy ended up joining him.
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129	[[WMG: Dumbledore wielding the Elder Wand is going to be a ChekhovsGun]]
130	Bucky and Ollivander imply that at least part of the reason Strange held back from defeating Grindelwald entirely was that he wanted Dumbledore to take mastery over the Wand. And it's not as if Strange couldn't have gone all the way if he'd wanted to, which means that he probably left the wand for Dumbledore to take so that Dumbledore could use it sometime in the future. Yes, Strange tells Dumbledore that the reason he needs to do it is a case of CreateYourOwnVillain, but this ''is'' [[TruthTwister Strange]] we're talking about.
131	** Furthermore, Ollivander's description of its abilities makes it sound even more powerful than its canon counterpart. Hard to imagine [[TheLawOfConservationOfDetail that's not intentionally foreshadowing something]], especially with Nimbus' SignatureStyle.
132	** It's used in chapter 69 to repair a wand that would otherwise be considered beyond repair, further cementing its powerful status.
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134	[[WMG:Barty Crouch Junior is impersonating his father]]
135	The events at the Quidditch World Cup confirm that he's still playing a role as Voldemort's agent in his current scheme, but he hasn't shown up since, and the absence of Mad-Eye Moody suggests that he's not impersonating him like in canon. Meanwhile, at the Yule Ball, Percy mentions how Crouch Senior hasn't been much the same since the World Cup, which he puts down to stress, but what if it really is a case of NotHimself? Plus, one can easily imagine Junior taking great joy out of impersonating his hated father to further his beloved Dark Lord's agenda.
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137	[[WMG: Harry's blood burning Grey Court vampires is due to ...?]]
138	Just like White Court vampires being hurt by love goes both ways (i.e. the person being protected by it has to ''either'' truly love someone else ''or'' someone has to love them), Grey Court vampires being hurt by faith could also be a two way rule? So for it to work, it would also be enough if someone believed in Harry; not nescessarily required that Harry be the one believing in anything/anyone else. Well - after the Dark Phoenix incident, there is quite a long list of (some very impressive) people who are said to believe in Harry... so this could be what burns Dracula et al?
139	* It's pretty heavily implied to be the Phoenix protection.
140	** It's all but stated that ''Harry'', from whose point of view this is written and who comes up with a plan to use it to his advantage, ''thinks'' it's the Phoenix protection. That doesn't exclude the author still throwing a curve ball by having it be caused by something else entirely, though. Something that neither Harry suspects in universe nor we suspect here. Or it could be a little bit of both.
141	* In favor of the belief-as-grey-vamps-weak-point theory: support from Amanterasu, Anahita, Anansi, Athena, Brighid, Ganesha, Guan-Yin, Hades, Hestia, Isis, Jesus, Laozi, Mother Summer, Odin, Osiris, Thoth, Vishnu, and the Zoryas would certainly not be something to be sneezed at.
142	** From a meta perspective: explicitly phrasing someone expressing their support of Harry in the words "I believe in you" (about five times, no less) in order to use that for something later would be a master troll chekhov's gun.
143	** There's also all of the mortals who have faith in Harry: Not just his many friends and family members, but if you think about it, there's everyone across the Nine Realms who knows what he did stitching the universe back together after Chthon. Plus, it was mentioned that many more people began worshiping the Norse pantheon after Thor and Loki showed up. Which means there is presumably now a fair amount of people worshiping ''Harry.''
144	** WordOfGod says it's the Phoenix protection, which Dracula smells in his blood.
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146	[[WMG: Plot predictions involving Gambit]]
147	* In the future, we might see at least one creator deity react to Gambit being a clone the way it's predicted for someone in the ''Webcomic/{{Freefall}}'' universe who discovers one of their creations has created sentient life of their own - as a DotingGrandparent :
148	--> When they find out they've become grand-creator[...], they'll [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1500/fc01475.htm spoil [the] kid rotten]].
149	* There might still be a ChekhovsGun waiting to go off after Gambit's talk with Jesus - just as Harry's talk with said person had other effects on the sly that were completely unnoticeable and only discovered later. Since Gambit did a lot for Maddie, who's their extended family (as both of them are Harry's cousins, albeit on different sides); they might have left him a thank you present. This could be something relating either to the fact that Gambit's being a clone was causing him problems[[note]]It would be ''hillarious'' if this were the case and someone (say, at the Xavier institute) discovered this by accident: "Um, Gambit? You know we took some of your blood; and we found out someone re-wrote all of your DNA." - "I know: 'm a clone. You know, too." - "No, it's not like that. Not like that at all. I meant that since the time someone checked and told you you're a clone, it's been re-written. All of it, I compared it to the sample from last time: now it looks nothing like it. All the evidence you were a clone or it was ever patched, rearranged, or tampered with is gone. Now, it's as completely natural as if you were Scott's brother the usual way." - "Ah." - "What do you mean, ah? Doctor Strange is ''green'' with envy, Bruce Banner nearly fainted with awe, and everyone else is puzzled." - "Ah, well."[[/note]], or related to Gambit's powers (which Gambit seems to have exceptional control over later in the fic, very unlike his brother). Being who they are, they might have done it in any case, but the "thank you for helping my baby cousin out" adds a nice touch of KarmicJackpot.
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151	[[WMG: How the issue of lying to Ron about the Winter Soldier will be resolved]]
152	* As one reviewer put it: "Obviously, the best course of action would be to sit Ron down, explain the whole situation, let him talk to Bucky, get him some serious therapy, and find some way to move forward without violence. This being Harry, that clearly won’t happen, but there will need to be a reason why Harry doesn’t at least consider it. He generally learns from his mistakes, so if he doesn’t this time, that requires an explanation."
153	* Another possibility would be to talk to Ginny first. It's her father, too; and she knows what it's like to be mind controlled into doing things she really wouldn't have on her own, so won't seek revenge on the Winter Soldier for things beyond his control. Essentially, she'd know all the right things to say to Ron about the issue itself. Then, take her along when coming clean to Ron. Explain that lying to him was more or less a panic reaction out of fear that either someone would overhear who'd further harm Bucky for things he had no control over, or that Ron would lash out out of grief for his father in a reflex before understanding. Tell him that Harry has been looking for a way to properly explain ever since: because Ron is Harry's best friend and he wants to do this right, half assing something just wouldn't do. Tell him that Ginny can explain it much better because of the diary incident, then let her do so.
154	* Or, alternatively, it won't be - because Harry's drama queen tendencies to show off what a good liar he is will get the better of him even in apologising; and he'll only make things worse by accident.
155	** Harry more or less humble bragged to Clint about how really really bad he can do and how well he can lie and how he can tell Ron what he's doing, have Ron buy it ''anyway'', and ''chose'' to follow through etc. - if he does the same to Ron in lieu of a sincere apology; does anyone think that will go over well? Or will Ron rather catch on that Harry is making him look ridiculous (by accident, as it's an unintended effect of Harry beating himself up so bad; but Ron can't know that) and say thanks, but no thanks?
156	* Possibly, Harry will have Ron speak to Xavier. Not only will this help give Ron some closure, but Xavier can also help him with psychic shields to ensure nothing like what happened with Voldemort will ever happen again (plus, it'd be helpful so that no other telepaths discover the truth about the Winter Soldier from Ron). Magneto's talk with Ron could also be foreshadowing.
157	** From a purely Doylist perspective, Xavier is as close as it gets to a DeusExMachina without Harry ''actually'' going to one of his family - most likely Frigga - and asking something like: "Grandma, could you help me out? There's this jerkass sorcerer that scrambled my best friend's mind to get to me. Can't you [[BuffySpeak unmess]] my bestie's mind and kick the sorcerer's butt real hard, pretty please with cherries on top?" After all the divine interfering that's been going on lately, it'll be hard to come up with an in story reason why she'd say no.
158	** Given that Voldemort's way in is implied to be a little bit of blood magic, those defences might not work - certainly, given Voldemort's knowledge of Harry's associates garnered via his MindControl at the World Cup, it's pretty unlikely he didn't think of either Xavier or Frigga intervening. As for telling Ron, the summary is that all the Weasleys get told when they're of age (and the Twins know because they worked it out). Harry's just resigned to it going horribly wrong.
159	** Might well end up with a nice continuity nod to the first book, where Loki was confronted by the children of some of the people he murdered. Ron isn't a cold-blooded killer, especially not to someone who's been something of a mentor to him. If he were actually confronted with his father's murderer, the most he'd do is punch him in the face and say a few harsh things.
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161	[[WMG: Harry Dresden getting the cool lightsaber instead of Butters]]
162	... means he'll maybe also get some of the other things Dresden Files Butters gets.
163	Like getting to keep Bob the skull (no brainer, really), or briefly taking up the fancy mythological sword currently sitting in his umbrella stand.
164	Though considering we are talking about Harry Dresden, most magical foci are currently shot to __, and it is a sword cane - Harry will probably use it as an impromptu staff at one point, and be surprised it actually lets him.
165	Because why not?
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167	[[WMG: The next crisis will involve]]
168	* Carol facing some sort of repercussion for assaulting her father, and Harry going absolutely ''berserk'' (maybe even borderline Dark Phoenix) over whatever fallout happens to her while trying to help.
169	** Come on: it's definitely going to be worse than just something like starting the next (as yet unwritten) Chapter with lines in the vein of
170	--> "Carol Susan Jane Danvers. You've really done it to yourself this time, haven't you?"
171	--> oOoOoOo
172	** and then having everyone guess what "it" is (the incident or its fallout) and who said that (Harry? Marie Danvers? Cpt. America Steve? ...?) until the chapter after that. She beat him up really badly - not that he didn't deserve it, but...
173	* Also,her father, being the self-centered bastard he is, will ''absolutely'' use this to blackmail her in any way he can. It'll be interesting to see how much of it he can get away with, and how he manages to do it.
174	** Doubtful that he'd be able to get away with anything, his mother-in-law being who she is. Plus, the thing about Joe Sr is that he never ''wants'' to hurt his children. He just has very old-fashioned ideas about gender roles, absolutely no idea of how wrong his request to Harry was, and no comprehension of how much he's hurt Carol and Stevie. No one ever bothered to explain because they were too busy punishing him for his ignorance.
175	*** No? He's got several cracked/bruised ribs, a bitten tongue, maybe internal injuries - what do you think he'll do about it: go to his room and drink himself senseless? Of course not: go to a doctor or hospital. Who will be kinda interested how he got those injuries. The poor dear, she didn't mean to ... not herself ... mentally unstable ... danger to herself and others ... in retrospect, always had a tendency for uncharacteristic violence ... doesn't know what she's doing, after all ... parents' divorce was the last straw that broke her ... didn't mean to, after all: had a nervous breakdown directly afterwards ... should be locked up and/or drugged to the gills before something even ''worse'' happens ... for her own good ... if she's so unstable now that a mere argument will result in serious injury ... only temporarily, of course, until she's better ... hope she gets well soon ... beloved daughter ... mental illness is such a tragedy, for me as much as for her ... my goodness: you can say that takes ''decades''?! ... How horrible for the poor dear!
176	*** Unless she does ''exactly'' what her father wants her to. ''No one'' but the two of them saw what happened. Try to counter ''that'' sort of blackmail.
177	*** Small problem:
178	*** 1. How's he going to explain ''that'' to the emergency room without looking stupid? "My teenage daughter is superhumanly strong, lifted me over her head, and dropped me from ceiling height"? How's ''that'' going to sound? The wounds aren't a typical beating, either - he was dropped. That just means that they can simply say, "he fell", and not only will it be completely true (technically speaking), the injuries will apparently bear that out. Given that the divorce is already in progress, it'll look like a deranged attempt to derail the court process or get revenge - throwing a dead cat on the table.
179	*** 2. He'd be admitting that he was beaten up by a girl. Worse, his daughter. Who is supposedly under his authority, and not only defied that authority, but bossed him around and put him in his place. In his eyes, he'd make himself a laughing-stock. If he's going to re-establish his authority, he's going to have to do it himself.
180	*** 3. She's a teenage girl, he's a grown man being divorced for reasons that include emotional abuse, bullying, and if the psychic aspect is brought into it... some very unpleasant coercion charges. He confronted her. She could easily claim self-defence, and he'd get slaughtered in the court of public opinion.
181	** No, that's a good point. However, two words: Alison Carter. Even if Joe does try to pull something, Alison will shut him down faster than you can say "MamaBear." IMO, she made it ''very'' clear in chapter 20 that if he tries anything, she'll take it out on him. Was Carol out of line (admittedly, not without provocation)? Sure. But he's stubborn, not stupid, and he's not gonna cross the Deputy Director of SHIELD.
182	*** What if he simply believes it? Not as in "trying to pull anything", but just "thinking this is the truth"? He ''already'' thinks something very similar of Carol in general for her tomboyish character and "unladylike" LadyOfWar behavior: no "sane" woman hands out hard knocks, in his view. Think the train of thought outlined above through about twice with that mindframe, and you're there. Now: we both know he couldn't come up with this ''as a scheme'' on his own - he's quite frankly not bright enough, and doing this ''insincerely'' is a typical ''female'' form of violence (ironic, I know, but certainly grounds for him to reject it being who he is); but what about sincerely thinking it? That he is helping Carol, who's in a bad shape mentally? And that he is starting to be a good [[spoiler: father]] again by caring more about her wellbeing, which he had sadly neglected as of late - as his wife and mother in law were quite right to remind him (although he wouldn't admit it).
183	*** Someone who ''is'' bright enough to think of it and wants to get at Harry through Carol (of which there are no lack of candidates) thinking of it for him and giving him a nudge is purely optional at this point.
184	*** That ''would'' be pretty in-character for someone like Voldemort, come to think of it...
185	*** While Voldemort would almost certainly consider such a strategy, he doesn't seem to be following her particularly closely. For one thing, he's avoiding the Avengers, and any direct confrontation with Harry. There are softer targets he can exploit, as he's shown with Ron (and, indirectly, Hermione). It's also a pretty low percentage plan. Alison's almost certainly watching Joe very closely, and would shut him down before he got going. Do you really think someone who went up against the Red Room for thirty years, who kept HYDRA at arm's length, and who effectively controlled SHIELD despite HYDRA-within-SHIELD and the World Security Council trying to contain her influence and ultimately forcing her out, would really not be able to take out such an attempt at the knees? Or discredit him entirely? It would be easy to wheel out specialist after specialist to talk about his controlling tendencies and abusive behaviour, or to whisper in the ear of a few friendly journalists. Add in the psychological horror of the MindRape aspect, and the baying mob of public opinion would be calling for his head - it wouldn't care about how he got a few bruises. In fact, it'd probably roar its approval.
186	*** So [[HateSink would]] the audience to see all that, probably. And for Voldemort's purposes it needn't work forever, or even for long - just long enough to really get to Harry; maybe to [[WeNeedADistraction distract]] him from something, maybe to traumatise and destabilise him, or maybe just [[ForTheEvulz because]]. If ruining Joe Sr. along with that is colateral damage - so freaking what: it's not as if Voldemort (or others that could try this) care about their impact on individual average people.
187	*** The last time he got that close to Harry or the Avengers, they nearly took his head off - Harry at the World Cup, and Wanda in Chicago. He's generally taken great pains to ensure that their wrath is pointed elsewhere and that he's a ways down their priorities list. Even when toying with Ron and Hermione, his purpose was to keep Harry and the Avengers occupied while he robbed the Department of Mysteries (not that he needed to, as it turned out, but whatever). While he'd probably find Harry going nuclear absolutely hilarious, he'd also probably consider it a bit ''too'' risky. He doesn't care about anyone else, sure, and sacrifices minions like it's going out of style, but he cares very much about himself. Casually murdering Joe Senior and leaving his corpse on the doorstep like a cat with a mouse, or transforming him into a demon-Hulk and setting him on the family, sure, but only if he was a very long way away by the time it was discovered - and even that probably entails more risk than he'd like, because it would give them much, much more incentive to actually find him.
188	* On that note, have a red herring: it's waaaaaay too quiet concerning Carol's brothers - almost veering into WhatHappenedToTheMouse territory. How did either of them cope with their parents' divorce (particularily little Joey, who according to Stevie was in bad shape mentally even before that one hit) is the one matter - but more importantly how did Stevie cope with the Bloody Hell arc, which involved him being abducted and almost eaten by the vampires? All of the main characters are focussing mostly on Harry (and if not somewhat on Carol, too): Stevie is a blind spot. This is a Chekhov's time bomb that could still blow up in their faces...
189
190	[[WMG: What happened to the remains of the transmode virus?]]
191	To be sure: anything there was of the transmode virus ''in Harry'' is long dead as a doornail (and the same goes for any changes or lasting effects) - as first Magneto happened to it, then the Dark Phoenix happened to it, [[RuleOfThree then]] Asgardian medicine happened to it, [[LongList then]] Doctor Strange happened to it, [[OverlyLongGag and then]] cousin Joshua happened to it. But what about elsewhere? Can we be sure that the Red Room only had it in [[NoPlansNoPrototypeNoBackup one]] location and no one took any away when that was destroyed? Or will it turn up again?
192	** Most likely Strange would've hunted down any copies not directly being held by Sinister.
193
194	[[WMG: Wanda pissed off a few deities]]
195	She had a bunch of freaking ''death threats'' delivered to most of the Council Elite, after all. Now, at the end of ''Ghosts'', it's hinted that she may be starting to drink too much. Openly attacking her would be bad form ... but totally-her-family-issues-and-not-ever-me driving her to [[TheAlcoholic drink]]? Subtle, but effective - and with plausible deniability, too.
196	* in that vein it also makes sense that the "someone up there" she complains to [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall the audience]] and the world at large about them positively ''nagging'' her to resolve said family issues would just as indirectly counteract it:
197	** they were the one sent to deliver said death threats (and other chapters hint that they wouldn't put something like that past the recipients) - so keeping at least half an eye on what is happening to Wanda and making sure no one messes around with her makes sense.
198	** in a sense, Alcoholics Anonymous could be almost considered a religion - with the messenger in question as the deity (not only) there - so seeing where this could go and seeking to forestall it for that reason also would be completely logical.
199	* It's worth bearing in mind that she did use to date John Constantine, who drinks like a fish. Her having a few drinks too many one time isn't exactly entirely out of character. Plus, they must know that Strange would react...''creatively''...if he even thought his daughter in all but name were being attacked, no matter how subtle it was.
200	** On second thought, those deities which would come to mind that could take a stab at out-stranging Strange are all ''supportive'' of Harry and by extent not the targets of Wanda's threats - Athena, Vishnu, Hades, Anansi and the rest of them. Hera would have a motive and destroying lives by means of family is just like her (being the goddess of home and hearth), and she's also prone to scheming - but as anyone knows she's probably not the brightest bulb in the chandelier; and definitely not smart enough to try a battle of wits with resident time lord ''Doctor Strange''.
201	** On the other hand, [[FriendlyNeighborhoodVampire Thomas]] off-handedly mentions he drinks with her so she won't drink alone and can measure herself - so it's probably a recurring setup. And he hasn't been her de facto brother in law to be for all that long; so this arrangement must be fairly recent.
202	** I got the feeling that it was just one or two drinking binges due to guilt and self-loathing over how her daughter doesn't want anything to do with her ever again (which would drive most people to drink), not exactly going down the rabbit hole of alcoholism.
203	*** Thomas' comments heavily imply that it was out of guilt and self-loathing, trying to drown her feelings.
204
205	[[WMG: Doctor Strange will be offered a seat on the Council Elite]]
206	* For one, he's practically a deity in all but name - Time Lord, Evergreen Man, and what not - and definitely up there with or above most of them in godlike power levels. See also the series-wide running gag of "an act of Strange".
207	* For another, if it doesn't matter if someone is woshipped or dreaded to count as a deity - he definitely is TheDreaded.
208	* Also, the Council fear him as well, and might see it as a way to try and appease him?
209	* They hate him and he sees them as puppets or pawns on a good day. Why would he bother? Also, he's quite insistent on ''not'' being a god.
210
211	[[WMG: The Asgardians' Scourge Of God on Russia is going to have bad long-term consequences for the protagonists.]]
212	It would confirm fears that the 'good guys' are perfectly willing to condemn innocent lives to suffer for a 'good enough' reason. It's gonna be a whole PR nightmare for the heroes to deal with. Plus, it'll actually make people support Gorr the God-Butcher if he comes around, because they'll sympathize with his position.
213	** Possible, but bear in mind most folks outside the Red Room and the heroes don't even know that ''was'' Asgard (and the former are effectively off the board).
214
215	[[WMG: Harry's vacation to the past serves the purpose of opening and aligning his chakras.]]
216	When Harry is in the process of transforming into the Dark Phoenix, Dresden looks upon him with the sight and he notes the existence of chakras as places in the body where magic and psychic energy pool and that Harry has a full set, plus the Phoenix Shard which is similar but misplaced.
217
218	Everything we know he did so far during his trip to the past lines up very well with what can be done to open and bring balance to the Root Chakra, the anchor that ties one to the earth and nature.
219
220	I think that... A running thread in Harry's training throughout ''Ghosts'' was pushing his powers into more versatile forms, mostly focused on different forms of energy use, and combining his different powers. His psychic powers with his magic, his wanded magic with his wandless magic. Early on in the story he learns to use his psychic powers to enhance his physical abilities. I think that the goal of this, guided indirectly by Doctor Strange, is to merge his different powers into something robust enough to handle the Phoenix. If both magic and psionics flow through the chakras, then opening them and bringing them into alignment may be the final step into a proper fusion of his powers.
221
222	Not to mention that everything that's good for your chakras is good for your mental health, if only due to removing stress.
223
224	And maybe once the chakras are aligned and his other powers merged and expanded into something robust enough to handle it, his Phoenix fragment will be brought into alignment with everything else as well.
225
226	[[WMG: Dark Phoenix related epileptic tree]]
227	Here's one that's really out there:
228	* At some point, Harry will find out that there is a way to take a Phoenix fragment out of someone, and how to do it.
229	** He won't do it to himself (why should he?) - but he will remember when he finally confronts Surtur; and depending on what it involves will either use this offensively; or offer it to Surtur as an off-ramp, appealing to the better nature Surtur doesn't have.
230	** This might involve a dip in a [[HealingSpring magic-undoing pool]] (if such a thing exists in the COS 'verse, maybe [[Literature/TheSilmarillion the]] [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mnemosyne one]] [[Literature/TheNeverEndingStory or]] [[Literature/AmericanGods the]] [[Literature/TheVoyageOfTheDawnTreader other]] of Harry's cousins has one), or the Phoenix herself taking it back, or...
231	** Then, there's always the HandWave possibility of someone with the ability to extract the phoenix fragment, or the dark side from the phoenix fragment, putting him in a ForcedSleep and doing whatever it takes ''while'' he's asleep; or the need to sleep overnight in a specific place. Concerning Harry, whoever can do something like this will also most probably say "yeah, I could; but no, I won't" (else, they would already have done so directly after the dark phoenix incident) - but they might be open to talking about Surtur.
232	*** In Harry's case, his Phoenix fire isn't exactly corrupted. Phoenix fire is volatile, and he was explicitly in the Dark Fledgling stages, so to speak. Strange is very distinct when discussing it with Maddie and Jean, pointing out that while there was a streak of malice in Harry, he was mostly just angry and in pain. Surtur is a very different matter.
233	** On second thought, one wonders about the exact specifics of how Surtur got his fragment in the first place - think of how the mantle of the Winter Knight is passed in the Dresdenverse - and whether taking it back would only work the same way? As Lily's merging with the Phoenix got Harry his fragment, there seem to be several ways to establish such a protection.
234	** The Phoenix wanting her power back from Surtur indicates this is not a one-way thing where once given there's no way to take it back; although not being able to reclaim it after Surtur's refusal indicates it needs the cooperation of both parties?
235	** Unlikely - it's implied that Surtur figured out how to steal it and keep it. Presumably he snipped a bit off, breaking its connection to the rest of the Phoenix.
236	*** Would that permanently hurt Lily, or does it grow back in the same way that pieces of ones soul grow back in the Dresdenverse if they are lost or used for magic?
237
238	[[WMG: Who said what in chapter 60 of Ghosts]]
239	The people speaking the messages to Harry when the Grey twins join everyone together are:
240	* As I once told you, cousin, I will never have anything better to do than help a young person in pain.
241	** (Cousin) Joshua
242	* Help will always be given at Hogwarts to those who need it, Harry, even if they cannot bring themselves to ask for it.
243	** Professor Dumbledore.
244	* Just because you have stumbled and cannot see a way out of the nightmares around you, doesn't mean you are lost. Sometimes, we all need a little help, to find our way out of the dark.
245	** Professor Xavier.
246	* You can do this, Harry, I know it - all day, if needs be. We'll be with you.
247	** Steve
248	* I know it might be tempting to lock yourself in a cool suit of armour right now; shut out the world and everything that's hurting. I did that. Don't be me. Be better. I'll help. Especially if you do end up in a cool suit of armour - I'm not great with emotions, but I'm great with socket wrenches and crowbars.
249	** (Iron Man) Tony
250	* I know what it's like. To be taken, unmade, and broken to bridle. But they can't do that again: because you survived them, just like I did. We're here, and they're gone - for good, this time.The only power they have is memories, and you're stronger than them.
251	** (Black Widow) Natasha
252	* I know what it's like. To have the Red Room open you up and put someone new in your head. To be someone who dies exactly what they say. To be an observer in your own memories. Unlike me, though, you didn't become someone else - you became yourself again. You burned them out, and the memories they left are the only trace left. They have no power over you anymore.
253	** (Winter Soldier) Bucky
254	* Never abandoned yer before, 'Arry. I'm not going ter start now.
255	** Hagrid
256	* You got hit hard. But I've known you since you were born: every time you fall, you get up and stand taller. So stand. We've got your back.
257	** Fury
258	* I know what it is to be used; to be taken and bent to the will of another, used for their purpose. Many helped me break his chains, to become stronger than I ever knew I could. You were, and one day will be, one of them. And no chains will hold you down.
259	** Magneto
260	* The ghosts of our past haunt us; they dig their claws into our flesh, and try to tear us apart with fear. But we are stronger, our claws sharper - they are no match for us.
261	** (Black Panther) T'Challa
262	* Healing is often slow, and even more often painful. Let the pain go, grandson. Let yourself heal. We will help you.
263	** (Grandmother) Frigga
264	* Pain and suffering are a part of us, cousin, as much as happiness or joy. But that does not mean you have to suffer alone. I feel your pain, and if you will permit me, I will share it.
265	** Maddie
266	* We cannot outrun out problems, mon cher. Sometimes we must turn, and we must fight, and when you do, you will not be alone.
267	** Jean-Paul
268	* I swore loyalty unto death, Harry. My axe may not cut the ghosts that haunt you, but my loyalty remains. Command me, my Prince... my friend. Any help I can give will be yours.
269	** Uhtred
270	* Are you Harry, god of nightmares and memories? No. You are Harry: slayer of dragons, banisher of demon gods, and wielder of the Flame Eternal. Your power is Life, and where there is Life, there is Hope. Reclaim your power, grandson, and stand tall.
271	** (Grandfather) Odin
272	* Rise, nephew. These illusions would trap you, but they are chains mad of a past of pain and madness, and such chains cannot hold. They. Will. Not.
273	** (Uncle) Loki
274	* I might be the last, but I'm not alone. You showed me that. I don't know what's happened, what's wrong, but it doesn't matter. Because as long as I am around, you aren't alone, either.
275	** Kal-El[=/=]Clark Kent (last of his kind)
276	* You're in a right knot, aren't you, luv? But don't worry - every Psi-Lock has a Psy-Key, and I won't rest until I find this one.
277	** Betsy Braddock
278	* My son, you should not feel either weak or unworthy: you are the strongest, and the most worthy, person that I have ever known. I am proud of you, Harry, and I will always be here for you.
279	** (Harry's father) Thor
280	* Blimey, mate, you look a complete mess. But that hasn't stopped you before, has it? Don't see why it would start now.
281	** Ron
282	* There's some way to make this better, Harry, I know it. A spell, a potion, maybe some technology. I'll start looking, right away, I promise.
283	** Hermione
284	* Oh Harry ... I can't melt this problem away for you, but I promise - I promise - that I'll be here for you through it, no matter what comes. I have missed too much of your happiness, and your pain, and I won't miss this.
285	** Wanda
286	* I love you. I love you, and I'd tear the world apart for you, starting with the bitch that did this to you. But if I can't do that, then dump this pain on me, too, because you've already got too much to deal. Let me help you carry it. And don't you dare be a stubborn dombass and refuse.
287	** Carol
288	* This, I am afraid, is largely my fault. I have no potions, no spells, to make this better, nor can I forsee any perfect solution. I can only hope that this network, of those who care for you and have known you, can make up the burden. I, Stephen Strange of Camelot, will bear my part gladly.
289	** Doctor Strange (obviously)
290
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292
293	A bit later when Harry is confronting the image of Belova, there's this mental shout practically yanking him out of the fear of her:
294	* '''This is the past, Harry. Whatever you're seeing has happened. It's gone. It can't hurt you anymore.'''
295	** Everyone in unison? The twins' double voice again, or just Maddie alone? One of the others who's experienced with mental healing (Xavier, Strange, Joshua, Betsy, Dumbledore, Frigga, ...)? Bucky and/or Natascha because of their experiences with the Red Room?
296
297	[[WMG: Lasting effects of "the everyone" joined together by the Grey twins]]
298	* After Harry leaves and before the whole thing came undone, people might have talked to each other on the sidelines; as the "everyone" not only joined them to Harry, but to each other. Some of those conversations off the radar of usual observers (for formal visits and contacts) might become future plot points.
299	* When the "everyone" came apart, some of the people (particularily more powerful entities) tied into that interdimensional shambles might have "tweaked off" and at some low-key level permanently kept the one or other of those mentally connecting beanstalk lines of thought the twins sent out to bring the whole thing together, to connect with each other as a sort of under-the-radar standing telephone line that could be reactivated when needed. This would NOT be the whole thing, just a very little part of it reforged into a mental connection between only two of the many, many people that were "there"; and NOT be connected to Harry or the twins anymore, just two other people to each other.
300	* Finally, the whole thing might still exist on some very dimensionally buried level, and be somehow able to be reactivated.
301
302	[[WMG: Tony Stark will make some sort of power suppressor for Hermione]]
303	He made arm braces for Jean (which Harry later used) and bracelets for Harry - and Hermione can't stay shut up in the hospital wing for''ever'' until her chaos magic is no longer dangerous to her and others: that would be just plain inhumane.
304	** It's possible, though it's implied at the end of ''Ghosts'' that Hermione's getting it under control enough to go out and about - and unlike PsychicPowers, Magneto points out that Chaos Magic really does ''not'' respond well to be contained.
305
306	[[WMG: Surtur's true identity...]]
307	Will be revealed as an alternate-universe Harry Dresden. A kind, brilliant, and gentle mage-scientist, one who possesses a particular proclivity for pyrotechnics, with a bit too much hubris and darkness for his own good...come on. It would make so much sense. Canon Dresden has an unfortunate tendency to get tempted by powers of darkness and take them up for good reasons--just look at the ''hexenwulf'' belt, or becoming the Winter Knight, or all the stuff he did during ''Battle Ground''. This is a version of him who wasn't quite as strong, and he became the Dark Phoenix, and spiraled down from there. Also, at some point he'll say, [[MemeticMutation "the galaxy was on fire, and it wasn't my fault."]]
308
309	[[WMG:Billions of refugees from Sakaar]]
310	* Let's hope there's no SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome...
311	** There's either no time or no space to get them all out through anything that's not AlienGeometries (one after the other would take forever, and all 8 billion of humanity standing next to each other would take up an area the size of New Jersey, for starters) - or both.
312	** Then, if you do teleport them all out at once: where to, and then what? They'd need to eat, drink, shelter and use the bathroom - all billions of them - until you can get them sorted to some sort of individual destinations (and how do you do ''that'')?
313	** If you say you get them all back where they came from, all at once - then you'd run into serious causality problems, because they're all from different times.
314	** The only thing you could do would be to say [[ScrewDestiny screw those causality problems]], Doctor Strange rearranges the timeline all the time, and go back in time to make sure Annihilus never existed. Which I'm sure Doctor Strange has tried. Which is why I'm sure it's impossible - or there wouldn't be an Annihilus ''now''.
315	** It's enough to drive one to drink - though perhaps not anything made from reanual grapes.
316	* When Harry realises this fact, we'll at least find out what gods say instead of a BigOMG inspired by OhCrap.
317	** Or another character will give Harry a nice prompt to shout out to the crowning moment of funny precision f-strike of the series - and react just as hillariously to Harry telling it - a nice bit of comic relief never hurt when you're trying your best to bring about NoEndorHolocaust.
318	* You could move all of them into the "Between", which appears to be outside of both space and time (and not in Morpheus' realm or death's domain, either), and thus large and timeless enough even for such a crowd.
319	* resolved in later chapters: they go to a terraformed Mars.
320
321	[[WMG:How Harry will get out of Sakaar]]
322	Though given PlotArmor and Harry's powers, he'll very likely get out alive (at least out of the arena he's currently in) - how he'll get out of Sakaar as a whole if as the distraction he's the last to stay while his allies get everyone ''else'' out will be quite another matter.
323	* Maybe Harry as a MagneticHero will inspire a HeelFaceTurn in the Grand Master and the two will get out together?
324
325	[[WMG:The "Between" is...]]
326	* [[PurgatoryAndLimbo Limbo]] - as evidenced by the English translation of the Latin word ''limbus'' meaning border(land), hem, or "in between (place)" - the same place as referenced in Greek and Roman mythologies.
327	** Depending on the setting's interpretation of purgatory, it might also be that (although that could be its own place, as there aren't enough hints).
328	* Sort of a larger version of the mirror dimension: a place to put things (or people) for safekeeping - and where a lot of power can be thrown around without damaging anything. Maybe ''by'' the people put in there for safekeeping. Harry for one could slug about enough fire "to reduce a full capacity Wembley to rubble", and it just sort of evaporated.
329	* Possibly the same place that Kal-El's people put anyone or anything ''they'' didn't want on their hands, as mentioned off-handedly that they had.
330	** Maybe Kal-El the First (if he's still around) is in there somewhere, and will eventually show up?
331	* To set the "homework from Loki" used as an excuse once in seriousness now: how ''do'' you get in and out? Are there people who have some sort of key (Kal-El I., maybe; Didi and Joshua, obviously, as Carol and Harry respectively meet them there; the Endless, as it would make sense; ...) - or is it just about knowing ''how''?
332	** Maybe Hermione will find out how to get there sometime. And maybe she'll just get in and not out, and be stuck - or on the contrary meet Kal-El the First there, and take him with her to Earth?
333	* On a related note: does everyone going there have to be touching for the teleportation inside to work?
334	** Cousin Joshua - possibly - checks up in passing on Harry's shoulder stab wound from the Dracula duel when teleporting them both and Thor to the Between, as this is the shoulder he takes Harry by; or is making a point relating to Thor taking Harry by the other shoulder - going by other scenes in the Between it's not clear whether physically touching would also be nescessary to get all of them teleported, or whether it's just a coincidence.
335
336	[[WMG:Doctor Strange's eye color change was significant]]
337	Whatever the time stone did to Strange changed the color of his eyes as well.
338	* Usually I'd say that changing them from the comics' grey to [=COS'=] blue is just artistic licence because IcyBlueEyes fit the plot better - however, originally Strange was meant to be Harry from the future (and Harry's eyes are very, very green); and although that idea is now jossed Strange's eyes were ''already'' blue when it wasn't yet.
339	* There's also the fact that Harry's eyes change color from green to golden when he's about to get dangerous (his voice also becomes doubled and there's the smell of wood smoke) - which is also a very significant change.
340	* All in all, maybe it's the occular equivalent to ImportantHaircut (and who knows, it might have been the equivalent to TraumaticHaircut as well - though hopefully not EyeScream, or at least not onscreen).
341	* Extremely unlikely. One, his eyes are never described. Two, he's a brilliant illusionist. Changing eye colour is easy. Three, comics Strange has been drawn with grey eyes, blue eyes (increasingly over the last 10 years), and green eyes in ''The Oath''.
342
343	[[WMG: Wanda's birth location was not an accident]]
344	So we're told that Wanda's mother and Erik Lensherr "happened" to be on Mount Wundagore the night she went into labor, and giving birth to Wanda there led to the latter having a connection to Chthon. Since the Elder God of Chaos is by default capable of manipulating possibilities, what if they were deliberately drawn there by Chthon so that he could create a vessel for himself? Sure, he can't influence much when the Darkhold is bound, but making something slightly more likely to happen right around the area he's most powerful might not be beyond him.
345
346	[[/folder]]
347
348	[[folder: Jossed]]
349
350	[[WMG: The Dark Phoenix is a demon in all but name]]
351	Arguably - depending on what you define a demon as in the 'verse. As "gods, goddesses, demons, and other entities of that ilk" are generally the same category of being and only what they ''do'' determines what name gets put to them; that would make a god or demigod becoming the Dark Phoenix like Harry did them being a demon in all but name for the duration. Which Harry was and gets better from; i.e he ascends to a more human and better nature - so you could say he's something of an AscendedDemon in the second book. Whatever you call it; he still falls squarely into not-quite-human UncannyValley territory when stressed enough to show some of his worse sides - which the narration explicitely points out if it's from the view of an average person seeing this. The narration's shorthand that he's in danger of backsliding is the smell of wood smoke.
352	* The Dark Phoenix isn't a demon, and its status regarding 'evil' is... complicated.
353
354	[[WMG: Bucky will, while not as quickly, soon be looked upon in the same light as Loki by the general populace.]]
355	Just a guess based on the Christmas chapter.
356	** Jossed. A passing mention in ''Ghosts of the Past'' notes that he's being passed off as having been kept on ice by HYDRA and experimented on as a mixture of trophy and guinea-pig. He's well regarded, but the general public doesn't know about the Winter Soldier aspect of his past.
357
358	[[WMG: Carol's mother]]
359	Carol's mom is such an ExtremeDoormat because she's got the same abilities as the rest of her bloodline, and is utterly terrified of them.
360	** Jossed. She is not, in fact, the ExtremeDoormat Carol sees her as, and her motivations for wanting to stay away from combat are less fear, more a desire to make good rather than fight evil. Equally, as she explains, she wants to keep her daughter away from that world for the entirely understandable reason that she's seen how it can destroy people - but once she realises that that is impossible, she instead resolves to support her and be proud of her.
361
362	[[WMG: Jean-Paul will help to rescue Harry and Carol.]]
363	Bucky's off on a hunt, which means that it's possible Jean-Paul will return to Little Whinging and find them gone before Bucky notices. Where was Jean-Paul? "Off on an errand," which could mean that he was visiting Clark, especially since he seemed to understand the "red star above the field of wheat." They could come back, find some link to the Red Room among the papers Sinister left, and pull off a BigDamnHeroes, which would allow Harry and Clark to meet for the first time. Alternatively, Jean-Paul will call in the Avengers and much PapaWolf curb-stomping will ensue.
364	** Jossed. While Jean-Paul and Clark teaming up would've been ''awesome,'' Clark isn't directly involved in the arc beyond that visit, and Jean-Paul's involvement is also relatively brief.
365
366	[[WMG: Maddie placed a trigger in Harry's mind, just as Sinister did for her.]]
367	My guess is that inspired by what Sinister did to her, she put some kind of trigger in his mind so that, to all intents and purposes, he would appear broken and would murder all those people (because he'd never do that of his own free will), but could be brought back to consciousness with a passphrase.
368	** Jossed. She removed it and hid it in the phoenix feather Harry wears.
369
370	[[WMG: Strange is Harry from the future.]]
371	And he's carrying out a massive StableTimeLoop.
372	** While this ''would'' explain a number of things (the sense of humour, the fondness for Wanda, his utter disdain for authority, the monomaniacal obsession with making his failure over [[spoiler: Maddie/Rachel]] right, and the raging hatred for Essex), this isn't the case. However, WordOfGod has it that this actually ''was'' the original plan, but it became too complicated (which for [[Creator/NimbusLlewelyn Nimbus]] [[ComplexityAddiction is really saying something]]) and depressing, so it was cut in the grand raft of offscreen changes some time back.
373
374	[[WMG: Voldemort will ally with the Black Council]]
375	As shown in Dresden-verse canon, the Black Council contains members from just about any organization it can get its claws in. And a restored Voldemort, combined with the power taken from Harry, would be a massive asset. Plus, in this universe, Kemmler and Grindelwald were allies, so there's a precedent for dark wizards of the wanded and wandless varieties to work together.
376	** As yet unconfirmed, but as of chapter 80, he has linked up with Selene. Considering that he later dumps her as soon as he's got what he wanted, and only allies with others, such as Dracula, to use them for his own interests, it seems most likely that he's acting on his own.
377	** Jossed as of chapter 61 of ''Ghosts,'' where Strange mentions that he's disposed of the Black Council--they're either being cured of Nemesis by Mab, or else being dealt with by Wanda and Dresden.
378
379	[[WMG: Joining all Harry's supporters psychically to help him was Dr. Strange's idea, which he told the Grey twins]]
380	* This is possibly not the first time he did this; as it's foreshadowed in chapter 17:
381	--> "... then even if Strange had plucked all your loved ones from all of time and space, had joined your mind to theirs [to] talk you down ..."
382	* Quite a few chapters later, the Grey twins do exactly that - and as usually Doctor Strange is behind it.
383	** Possible, but unlikely - remember, the Grey Twins and Harry have an instinctive psychic link that goes back to the womb.
384	** Which is why Doctor Strange picked them to set his plan in motion, as they were best able to do this in Harry's case.
385	** WordOfGod says no. Strange doesn't do everything, simply because he doesn't need to. As he put it with Steve's selection by Erskine, "some things are just meant to be."
386
387	[[WMG: Why does Doctor Strange need to borrow the Tesseract to threaten the Council Elite?]]
388	Doctor Strange already has the Time Stone (merged with it, in fact); which is one of the same class of objects, and similarly powerful. Combine this with the fact he says he will be dying "soon" (and to someone who is half a million years old a normal human lifetime, even a wizard's lifetime, ''is'' soon). Maybe while he was faking the dead, he un-merged with the Time Stone?
389	** Jossed. He wasn't merged with it to begin with. It empowered him. Big difference. Otherwise, no one knows where - even ''when'' - the damn thing is.
390
391	[[WMG: Identity of the bartender at Maupin's]]
392	Because it would be just like Nimbus for a barely-mentioned character in the background to be super important later.
393	* "Mac" [=McAnally=]
394	* Aberforth Dumbledore
395	* Ebenezar [=McCoy=] (OK, so he's not taller than Thor, but a small glamour wouldn't be beyond him at all. Plus the rest of the description fits him to a T, and Maupin's would be a good place for him to hang out.)
396	* All jossed; he's actually [[spoiler: Buri]].
397
398	[[WMG: Plot prediction involving Remus Lupin]]
399	Someone will cure Remus Lupin of being a werewolf by making him an animagus (who can turn into a wolf) instead. Likely candidates are the wolf people Loki mentioned in the first book; but something like an act of Strange / one of Harry's relatives also isn't out of the question.
400	** The Flamels aren't out of the question either.
401	** WordOfGod is that his lycanthropy is restrained/in remission thanks to a variant on the tattoos he, Sirius, and Constantine investigated during Book II.
402
403	[[WMG: Harry's sacrifice for Carol wasn't quite as impressive as he realized]]
404	In ''Bloody Hell,'' Harry sacrifices most of the blood in his body to save Carol, something that it's stated should have come close to killing him. Except...he was moved from where he had fallen to the steps of the police station by Strange, aka the Meddler Supreme and probably the best doctor in history. How hard would it be for Strange to slip Harry a Blood-Replenishing Potion (which does, as it happens, exist in canon) while he was unconscious? Between that and Harry's emerging Asgardian healing factor, he probably had more left in his body than he realized.
405	* Most likely Harry wasn't thinking about anything but saving Carol at the time; but ''Carol'' later deduces that it must have nearly killed him by all that she knew. Given that she neither knows about the Meddler Supreme nor Asgardian healing factors, it's not an irrational assumption to make from her perspective - and anyway it's the thought that counts for her.
406	* WordOfGod is that it was exactly as impressive as it seemed, in part because Strange was counting on the additional mystical impact of Harry nearly sacrificing his life to save Carol (because while he didn't write the rules on magic, he knows how to game them better than anyone). Harry wasn't thinking about the potential consequences, but wouldn't have cared even if he had been.
407
408	[[/folder]]

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