| 1 | [[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/got_ascent.png]] |
| 2 | A {{defunct|OnlineVideoGames}} roleplaying/strategy WebGame based on ''Series/GameOfThrones''. There, you played as a SelfInsert who earns nobility in the beginning of the story and becomes the head of a minor house, with a fealty and background of your choice. You needed to manage your character, family and household. |
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| 4 | It was developed by [[https://www.disruptorbeam.com Disruptor Beam]] and was launched in 2013, ultimately concluding in January 2019. |
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| 6 | !!It provides examples of: |
| 7 | * AbominationAccusationAttack: Jorgen pulls it against Jon in the storyline ''Rumors'', be it true or not. |
| 8 | * AdmiringTheAbomination: You are impressed by R'hllor's unnatural miracles which creep Gammer out. |
| 9 | ** Ser Hugo also thinks [[MundaneUtility he may come handy in a war.]] |
| 10 | * AgeIsRelative: Gammer Wilde calls Ser Hugo "boy" while he is an "old knight" for a little boy in King's Landing. |
| 11 | ** Jon and Ella are considered a grown man a woman and old enough to get married while you were "only a child yourself" at sixteen. |
| 12 | * AlasPoorVillain: The Silent Lady after you hear her side of your success story. |
| 13 | ** Jorgen's [[spoiler: death by wights and the humiliating treatment he gets from your sworn swords before it makes even you and your children feel bad for your most determined bully.]] |
| 14 | ** Lady Chernoff's ruthless, obsessive ambition isn't making her sympathetic, but the ImpoverishedPatrician family's frustration is understandable, living in a small poor manor without any holding or smallfolk, hearing of an inheritance which would be their due if not for some former smallfolk having occupied it behind their back. |
| 15 | * AnarchyIsChaos: The Summer Isles have no government and local sailors attacking people is no news. |
| 16 | * AnguishedDeclarationOfLove: |
| 17 | --> '''you''': You seem to care a great deal for Bess, Carellen. Why is that? |
| 18 | --> '''Carellen''': Why does anyone care for anybody in this bloody world, my [lady/lord]? Those you love, those you can't live without... you'd do anything to see them safe. |
| 19 | ** |
| 20 | --> '''you''': Is there any truth to what Jorgen said about you? |
| 21 | --> '''Jon's''' face goes icy. "Is that what matters? Yes! This is who I really am. I love Eutimio. If that shames you, we'll leave you to Jorgen and his ilk!" |
| 22 | * AnimalMotifs: The Starks and the Lannisters definitely, according to their crests, and Sandor Clegane as a hound. Gammer literally dreams the Stark children as wolves, and Clegane as a hound. [[spoiler: And Joffrey's guards as lion-headed vipers.]] |
| 23 | ** Locke is seen as flayed wolf attacking Bran a lame wolf. With Hodor as a giant wolf. |
| 24 | * AnyoneCanDie: None of your agents are safe in Volume 6. |
| 25 | ** None of your ''children'' are in Breaking Ties. |
| 26 | ** [[spoiler: Nor is your father.]] |
| 27 | * ApologizesALot: Maester Lucas apologizes for [[spoiler: [[SorryIFellOnYourFist being poisoned by the Silent Lady and drunkenly seduced by you]].]] He also gets sensitive when his ideas get rejected. |
| 28 | ** Alvyn apologizes for the merchant uprising caused by forbidding the false weighs, thinking it's because he gave bad advice. |
| 29 | * AristocratsAreEvil: You are the only FeudalOverlord who genuinely cares about your smallfolk, takes the responsibility of protecting them seriously and gives them modern human rights. Others either bully them like the Goldfoots and the Boltons, neglect them like the Turners, or take advantage of them like Lady Olenna. Even Jayne, though gives occasional charity, is reluctant about taking the responsibility of leadership. But the most disturbing example is Lord Cley, [[spoiler: who murders an innocent protitute for fun and refuses to see that as anything more than a small mistake to be indulged.]] |
| 30 | * ArrestedForHeroism: Alvyn is imprisoned for trying to save Gendry from Melisandre. |
| 31 | * AscendedFridgeHorror: You can hear it enough that your holding was another family's before the slavers, but you don't think it may cause problems until Forging Bonds... |
| 32 | ** The Silent Lady, who threatens you as early as Volume 1, but gets the main role only in Volume You. |
| 33 | * AsianRudeness: Olene who's from Braavos, doesn't smile and speaks curtly. Though it may have something to do with her [[spoiler: being a Faceless Woman.]] |
| 34 | * AssassinOutclassin: You manage to kill the Silent Lady's hitman, the Silent Lady herself and the hitmen of the opponent who had your wine poisoned. |
| 35 | * AsYouKnow: Ser Hugo explains to you what a sworn sword is, Septa Eleanor explains to you what is customary if you get invited to a coronation, Gammer Wilde tells you that you decide about your smallfolk's funeral, Jayne tells you that a [[FeudalOverlord Feudal Overlady]] is not unheard of but not the norm, some Great House members explain what their bannerman owes them... |
| 36 | ** |
| 37 | -->'''Ella''':I'm hardly a little girl! I'm fourteen. Girls my age are already married and bearing children. |
| 38 | * AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: When King Robert Baratheon gives you nobility and names you the FeudalOverlord of the land you have banished the slavers from. |
| 39 | ** When you name one of your children as heir. |
| 40 | ** When you ritually take Jorgen into your service. |
| 41 | * BackForTheFinale: Subverted: Jayne ''doesn't'' come home for the heir-choosing. |
| 42 | * BadassFamily: Your House is told to have good fighters, what you, Jayne and Visenya have the chance to prove. You also have a sword beside your bed in case, and can honor your criminals by beheading them personally. Inverted by your son Jon, who isn't interested in learning to fight, but makes up for it with his brains, and doesn't lack bravery either. |
| 43 | * BatDeduction: You decide Liadain is the traitor you are looking for when you hear Gammer say her name when in a coma. |
| 44 | * BatmanGambit: You can trick the [[GangOfBullies Goldfoots]] into attacking you by making them believe you are vulnerable. |
| 45 | * BeautyBrainsAndBrawn: Ella is said to have a charm the others lack while Jon can reason skillfully and Jayne isn't afraid to take rash actions. |
| 46 | ** Also, [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute Odette]], who is a successful sellsword. |
| 47 | ** Kirth is TheCharmer, you are TheStrategist (and regularly remarked to be ''clever'') and Rolfe is the fighter. |
| 48 | ** The Three with charming Lord Harrow, practical Lord Turner and military expert Lady Wisent. |
| 49 | * BeautyEqualsGoodness: Your advisors are convinced Tyrion Lannister is evil. Ser Hugo likes him, though. |
| 50 | ** Inverted with Lord Cley, who is as heinous as charming, and doesn't seem to be fooling anyone from the start. |
| 51 | * BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: Jayne sulks that she can't do more than needlework when living with Devan, but when she inherits Hawkhaven to run, she gets scared and runs away to be your agent instead, leaving the holding to you. |
| 52 | * BecauseYouWereNiceToMe: Ella's alleged reason to trust and defend [[HandsomeLech Jorgen Chernoff]]. |
| 53 | ** Goldfoot servants are easy to get on your side for a little coin and friendliness. |
| 54 | * BedTrick: You can try tricking Ser Morrus with a prostitute in a dark room when he feels entitled to Bess. |
| 55 | * BenevolentBoss: There is a whole storyline about finding a cure for Gammer Wilde and rescuing Septa Eleanor, as well as saving Maester Lucas, and fighting for Rona's father, Callum Grey. In fact, there is an achievement to earn by helping out all your advisors. |
| 56 | * ArrangedMarriage: If you don't force him to send Eutimio away, Jon agrees to marry a girl of your choosing and father sons. He pities the woman you choose for him. |
| 57 | * CureYourGays: Jon would marry a girl and accepts his duty as a "true man", as long as you don't send Eutimio away. |
| 58 | * BilingualBonus: Ursa Serene in the bonus quest, allegedly the beauty of the brothels, [[spoiler: actually a dancing bear.]] |
| 59 | * BittersweetEnding: Volume You has it. [[spoiler: Yes, the Silent Lady is finally dead, but so is Regenard and Devan, not to mention Bess or Munda and Henny.]] |
| 60 | * TheBlacksmith: Munda and her family. |
| 61 | * BlamedForBeingRailroaded: For imprisoning Tyana and crushing the Three in a war. |
| 62 | * BlessedWithSuck: Gammer Wilde is often horrified by her prophetic dreams, especially after seeing [[spoiler: Rh'llor resurrect the dead Beric Dondarrion]], so much that she wants to stop dreaming. [[PowerIncontinence She doesn't succeed.]] Her first red dream was about her husband killing her sons. |
| 63 | * BolivianArmyEnding: [[spoiler: ''Enduring Legacy'' ends with you preparing for a journey north to try and stop the White Walkers with the Greenseer's Glass.]] |
| 64 | * BrainyBrunette: Your entire family. |
| 65 | * BrassBalls: You make perverted comments about amazons when you visit their island as Moxhala's diplomat. Their princess is not impressed. |
| 66 | * BrawnHilda: Lady Victoria Wisent, known military expert and drinking champion. |
| 67 | * BreakTheHaughty: GrimUpNorth redeems Jorgen way before Liadain could. |
| 68 | ** Evalyn finally surrenders when her son is about to be killed. |
| 69 | ** [[SinisterMinister Tarryl]] after being captured by Ella. |
| 70 | * BreakfastClub: The sellsword company Odette was in, the Nameless, consists of Westerosi bastards. |
| 71 | * BrokenBird: Ruvayn Oridane from his trials in Essos, so much that Ella is wary of marrying him. |
| 72 | * BrokenPedestal: Ser Hugo is devastated when he learns [[spoiler: that his mentor, Ser Medwyk, visited him to spy on you for the Silent Lady.]] |
| 73 | ** Rona is also upset after learning her father is alive but not himself anymore. |
| 74 | ** The Iron Bank for Eutimio. |
| 75 | --> Eutimio looks away. "I thought the Bank was Braavos's pride -- powerful, neutral, open to all. Not a way for Lorenzo and Nicomede to line their pockets." |
| 76 | ** R'hllor for Alvyn. |
| 77 | --> "I have been misled. R'hllor is no Lord of Light. He is a god of darkness and death." |
| 78 | * TheBully: The Goldfoots to their smallfolk, '''your''' smallfolk and [[BullyingADragon you]]. |
| 79 | ** Groat to Alvyn. |
| 80 | * ButNotTooGay: The SexyDiscretionShot in the consummation quests between [[spoiler: Jorgen and Liadain]] comes considerably later in the action than the one between [[spoiler: Jon and Eutimio]]. Not to mention the whole ''boss challenge'' about your daylong fun with Ester Goldfoot. |
| 81 | * ButtMonkey: Tyana, Jayne's handmaid, accused with thievery by your bailiff Simon Groat and imprisoned by Rona as a spy, all but admittely innocent. You are also railroaded to be cruel to her. |
| 82 | ** You for your fellow bannermen and the authorities, though they usually end up BullyingADragon. |
| 83 | * CallingTheOldManOut: A mild one from Odette if you let Farradhar marry her, saying if ''you'' would have been kidnapped, ''she'' would have done everything to rescue you, but you apparently don't care that much. |
| 84 | * CampGay: Eutimio is described as "foppish". |
| 85 | * CaptainSmoothAndSergeantRough: You and Ser Hugo. |
| 86 | ** Groat is much haughtier toward the smallfolk than you are. |
| 87 | * ChangelingFantasy: You receive rumors that Odette is the last Baratheon. |
| 88 | * CharacterAlignment: Yours moves on three scales, according to your decisions: putting Realm or Family first; following the Old Ways or New Ways; being Cunning or Truthful. Most of your advisors represent the extremes of each scale: [[KnightInShiningArmor Ser Hugo]] is Realm; Rona is Family; [[GoodOldWays Gammer Wilde]] is Old Ways; [[GoodShepherd Septa Eleanor]] is New Ways; [[TheUnfettered Groat]] is Cunning; [[TheFettered Alvyn]] is Truthful. |
| 89 | * CharacterDevelopment: Jon starts Forging Bonds as a CuteBookworm, who needs to be nagged into his fencing lessons. He GrewASpine in Braavos, [[spoiler: through some ComingOutStory and SoProudOfYou]]. He matures into TheReliableOne on time to help try to track down Ella and reassure you. Ella starts as a SmittenTeenageGirl, [[spoiler: falling victim to Jorgen's manipulation,]] but growing out of it shows natural talent to be TheSocialExpert [[spoiler: even in time to out-gambit Jorgen]], and, finding religion, swings into TheFundamentalist. Unfortunately, she is still a WeakWilled UnwittingPawn for charming swindlers. |
| 90 | ** Jorgen gets considerably more sympathetic while in North. |
| 91 | * CharacterFocus: Jayne and Ser Hugo are sort of PutOnABus for ''Forging Bonds'', but Jon and Ella get their own looks, personalities and adventures. |
| 92 | * ChekhovsGun: Your minor noble, bastard or mercenary background comes in handy in the storyline ''A House In Need''. The uprising peasants don't care about nobility, but instantly [[JustForFun/OneOfUs warm up to you]] and trust that you will help, while they are convinced [[AristocratsAreEvil nobles don't care for them]]. |
| 93 | * ClearMyName: Jon after Councillor Lorenzo's death. At home, everybody agrees he wouldn't murder to save his life. |
| 94 | * ClosestThingWeGot: Guard Petyr for captainship for the time between Ser Hugo and Eutimio. |
| 95 | * CloudCuckooLander: Gammer Wilde, sometimes acting like a jester for you. |
| 96 | * CloudcuckoolandersMinder: Melisandre pushes Alvyn to be her right-hand man in her ActivistFundamentalistAntics, and he can choose to sabotage them towards common sense. |
| 97 | * ColonelKilgore: Ser Hugo has his moments, especially when judging. When you arrive home from King's Landing, Maester Lucas says Ser Hugo kept up the order, there were ''only'' three arrests; he thinks it normal in the Bonus Quest ''Death In The Gauntlet'' to test the recruits' competence with dangerous abuse; he yanks the minstrel taunting Jayne quite agressively into your court; he recommends flogging for the guard who left his post to take care of his sick family; seems to have ''sober respect'' for you for wanting to personally behead a criminal; and relishes in detailing the possible punishment for Jayne's kidnapper: |
| 98 | --> "I'll pull and smash your tooth. Next I jam a reed in your pisshole and pour in the powder. Then you finish a wineskin." He grins, "That's to start." |
| 99 | * CometOfDoom: The red comet, along with prophecies of another long night/winter and the White Walkers coming back. |
| 100 | * CommonalityConnection: Rona is sensitive about family issues and gets devoted to yours probably because she has lost hers. |
| 101 | ** Alvyn, after losing his son, bonds with Ser Davos Seaworth over his similar grief and visits Rolfe at the Wall to bring him news about you. |
| 102 | ** Groat sympathizes with your widowhood after [[spoiler: losing Kyra.]] |
| 103 | * CompeteForTheMaidensHand: Andreas the sellsword offers to fight for Odette's hand. [[ExploitedTrope The entire thing was staged to make her other suitors look better.]] |
| 104 | * ComplainingAboutRescuesTheyDontLike: Desmera, Garth's daughter, after you have rescued her father, who took ill after the rough travel home. Never mind that the other noble shouldn't have kidnapped him for a ransom, and that Garth has indeed insulted him. You are the villain here who doesn't care about Garth, because you didn't grovel enough for him so you can take him home more comfortably. |
| 105 | ** After catching a dangerous cult leader, your fellow bannermen scorn about you violating the guest right in the process. |
| 106 | * CondescendingCompassion: |
| 107 | -->[after ruining Lord Turner in your war:] |
| 108 | --> '''you''': "Accept his surrender, and with the note send a few coins for...charity." |
| 109 | * ConflictKiller: Tarryl in the middle of the Chernoff-Ruvayn problem. |
| 110 | * TheConsigliere: mostly Rona to you. |
| 111 | * CoolButStupid: Why does the Silent Lady need ravens to send you her notes, even if ''you are in the same room''? |
| 112 | ** Why couldn't Yara Greyjoy just send you a raven, instead of coming with a small army, to [[spoiler: ask where her brother is?]] |
| 113 | ** Why doesn't Gammer Wilde ask the gray dog who its master is?! |
| 114 | * CoolOldGuy: Lord Damrosch, [[WorthyOpponent the first opponent to outwit you.]] He amicably surrenders in exhcange for staying in the castle and [[FriendlyEnemy helps you]] and Ella with information and advices in the later wars. |
| 115 | * CosmicHorrorReveal: While the threat of the coming long winter was never unknown, it's in Breaking Ties when you gradually stop caring about political intrigues and take lands only as a means to try and protect your smallfolk from starvation before it's too late. |
| 116 | * CrazyEnoughToWork: Everyone questions your sanity if you side with Nyall against your liege lord, but more and more fellow bannermen start lining up behind him, the odds are shifting in your favor until you aim for taking your region's keep... [[spoiler: [[CruelTwistEnding until R'nat Reyl backstabs Nyall in the last minute.]]]] |
| 117 | * CorruptTheCutie: At the festival, you are able to invite Septa Eleanor or Maester Lucas into your bedroom. They regret it severely next morning. |
| 118 | * CrocodileTears: Introducing Kyra's crying mother becomes a less effective guilt-tripping if you hear that her family let the murderer buy their silence. |
| 119 | * CrueltyIsTheOnlyOption: A minstrel makes a mocking song about Jayne's disability and wedding, your only options are [[MamaBear which hand]] [[PapaWolf to cut]]. |
| 120 | * CulturedBadass: You fight better than the trained soldiers of your enemies and whatever your background, you don't have problems with reading and political affairs, and you are never seen bumbling in your new nobility, nor as a ShelteredAristocrat in situations which require a badass. |
| 121 | * DefiantToTheEnd: Kirth can do this at the end of the Red Wedding. |
| 122 | * {{Determinator}}: Most of your enemies are obsessed beyond reason: Lady Chernoff with your holding, Lord Roxton with revenge, the Trader's Guild with swindling you, the Goldfoots with bullying you. |
| 123 | * DeusExitMachina: You fall into a coma just before Jakeb arrives for Jon and Ella to deal with. |
| 124 | * DiabolusExNihilo: [[SinisterMinister Tarryl]], who starts a religious war, but [[spoiler: is promptly defeated by Ella.]] |
| 125 | * DirtyOldMan: Alvyn seems to be pretty receptive to the charms of [[FemmeFataleSpy Myra the Owl]] and [[HotWitch Melisandre]]. |
| 126 | * DisappearedDad: Your father Rolfe, who serves in the Night's Watch. |
| 127 | * DisproportionateRetribution: [[spoiler: You may have ruined Lord Roxton's brother-in-law by doing your job, but you surely haven't kidnapped his children, started a war against him and turned his allies against him.]] |
| 128 | * DivideAndConquer: Lord Roxton when he turns the Three against you. |
| 129 | * DontGoInTheWoods: The Silent Lady kidnaps smallfolk from the woods. |
| 130 | * DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale: Ser Hugo seems to be afraid of Gammer Wilde and Rona's temper and threatened and kicked as greeting by Shae. |
| 131 | * DreamingOfThingsGoneBy: Your coma-visions starting in ''Forging Bonds''. Jon confirms you did see the historical events as he read about them. |
| 132 | * DrivenByEnvy: Jakeb hints at bemoaning the perceived injustice of you being [[SelfMadeMan also lowborn and still more successful than him.]] |
| 133 | * TheDutifulSon: While Jayne runs away from tending Hawkhaven and Ella runs after pretty bad boys and charismatic cult leaders, Jon stays dependable, selfless and humble, even his only rebellious gesture is steadfast loyalty to [[OneTrueLove Eutimio]]. |
| 134 | * DoubleEntendre: The storyline title ''A man of experience''. |
| 135 | * TheDreaded: The Silent Lady, who is mysteriously threatening and evading you in the beginning, giving all your household the creeps by slipping in and out of your castle's locked doors; the smallfolk she kidnaps think she is a spirit of the woods; chase her all you want, she will disappear before you could catch her. |
| 136 | * DroitDuSeigneur: Subverted. Ser Ryel Cruenen feels entitled to your inkeeper Bess as a recompense, but you correct him that no, your smallfolk decide themselves who they want to sleep with. |
| 137 | ** You can joke with this after drunkenly sleeping with Maester Lucas, frightening the poor man. |
| 138 | * DumbMuscle: A character is either good with the sword or clever, with [[MagicalQueer Eutimio]] as the only exception. |
| 139 | * DyingDeclarationOfLove: [[spoiler: Terrei may do it for you through Ruvayn in ''Give Him My Love''.]] |
| 140 | * DysfunctionalFamily: Your spouse has mysteriously died, Jayne hates your guts, your father is away in the Night's Watch and isn't particularly curious of you unless he needs a favor. You seem to be closer to [[TrueCompanions your advisors]]. |
| 141 | ** And it sounds pretty sad that [[spoiler: Ella is an easy prey for Jorgen Chernoff not only because she is young and naive but because she needs the fake courtesy of a ConMan to feel cared about.]] |
| 142 | * EmoTeen: Your eldest daughter Jayne. |
| 143 | * EndlessWinter: At the beginning of ''Breaking Ties'', you are preparing for a winter which will last for at least ten years. |
| 144 | * EnemiesEqualsGreatness: When you get mysterious threatening letters slipped into your castle, you remark that your enemy must think you formidable if they go so far against you. |
| 145 | ** Euron ''Greyjoy'' deems you dangerous after your conquests in your region in Volume 6. |
| 146 | * EnemyMine: Ser Hugo tells Oberyn Martell the king despises Tyrion, so Oberyn instantly comments that Tyrion seems to be likeable. |
| 147 | ** Carellen can help Yara Greyjoy against the Boltons, or inversely. |
| 148 | ** Septa Eleanor and Gammer Wilde often belittle each other's religion, but they agree that [[TakeAThirdOption R'hllor]] is creepy. |
| 149 | * EntitledBastard: Carellen expects you to drop everything about the Silent Lady-problem and make it all about protecting Bess, unlike Silvercheek who doesn't feel entitled to special treatment, is grateful for every help you give him, often volunteers to help you through dangerous maneuvers, doesn't vilify you for failing to save his mother and brother, though eight little brothers of his want them back. Moreover, was Bess locked into the inn? She couldn't have a harder time staying away for a few days than the enslaved smallfolk breaking free from the dungeon. |
| 150 | ** Coming out and asking for a favor at the same time is a complicated task indeed, but [[http://gotascent.wikia.com/wiki/A_Special_Friend taking your boyfriend home as a surprise, announcing you have made a promise at your parent's expense with more entitlement than apology, threatening to run away if the parent is hesitant to deliver your promise, while all but making out with him for everyone to see,]] maybe isn't the best way to get your parent, however open-minded, into a charitable mood. Jon seems to be hellbent to run away from home, but why need to desperately look for an excuse to [[IntolerableTolerance vilify]] his parent for it? |
| 151 | ** Ella demands trust right after helping Jorgen sabotage your land and stealing your seal to order your men into the holy war behind your back. |
| 152 | * EstablishingCharacterMoment: Odette saves your life when you first meet and helps your village in the snowstorm when she arrives on your holding. |
| 153 | * EvenEvilHasStandards: Groat makes no secret that he considers Lord Cley to be scum. While he pushes for the deal, he still feels disdain for the man and advocates assassinating him. |
| 154 | ** Lady Chernoff disowns Jorgen, but she doesn't let him be killed. |
| 155 | * EvenMooksHaveLovedOnes: You can get Yorik the slaver on your side by helping his starving family. |
| 156 | * EvilCripple: The Silent Lady. Justified with a FreudianExcuse: she was loyal to the slavers who were her only family and takes revenge on you for destroying her only home. |
| 157 | * Expy: Most sworn swords are expies of characters from the novels or the characterizations given in the show. |
| 158 | * FailedASpotCheck: King Robert when he gave you nobility and your holdings, [[spoiler: but didn't give nobility to your children, so they can't inherit from you, and didn't make sure there is no other family with a legitimate claim on the land]], so you must go through a hearing to keep what you have. |
| 159 | * FalseFriend: Lord Harlton, who befriends you in the beginning, [[spoiler: but kidnaps Derryk behind your back.]] |
| 160 | * FamilyOfChoice: Your house becomes Rona's surrogate family, after her own was [[DoomedHometown killed off]]. |
| 161 | * FeeFiFauxPas: The young tax collector. |
| 162 | --> "I'm here, to, er, collect my royal tithe... uh, YOUR royal tithe, as is the custom, your grace... er, my [lady/lord]." |
| 163 | * FelonyMisdemeanor: How dare you [[spoiler: worship R'hllor]], Alvyn? To the dungeon with you! |
| 164 | * FemmeFataleSpy: Myra, "the Owl", spying for Lord Harlton against you. |
| 165 | * TheFettered: Ser Hugo Flint and Alvyn of Oldtown. |
| 166 | * FinalBattle: In Volume You, [[spoiler: against the Silent Lady and her operations in Essos. Though it can be done by Final Trade or Final Intrigue, too.]] |
| 167 | ** In Forging Bonds, [[spoiler: against Lady Chernoff and the Goldfoot army.]] |
| 168 | * FollowThePlottedLine: When the story follows the tv series. The original storylines are slightly more branching. |
| 169 | * FoolishSiblingResponsibleSibling: Jayne and Ella vs. Jon and Odette. |
| 170 | * ForcedToWatch: Alvyn is by Melisandre, when she burns Selyse's brother for secretly worshipping the Seven. |
| 171 | * {{Foreshadowing}}: The city quest "No lullaby for lords", where Winterfell maids mention that Bran Stark barks and growls in his sleep, takes on a new meaning after seeing Gammer Wilde dream of wolves. |
| 172 | ** Daenerys Targaryen is surprisingly busy staying in Essos and forcing Westerosi laws on it for someone who wants the Iron Throne, while the others rush to King's Landing to war for it. However: |
| 173 | --> '''Groat''': "If I had to wager, I'd place my coin on the kings who have yet to reveal themselves. A man who lets his enemies prey on each other is wise indeed." |
| 174 | ** Gammer dreams of betrayal from inside your family when you get news about Odette's possible Baratheon relation. |
| 175 | * ForgivenButNotForgotten: Groat, after your house finds out [[spoiler: he has illegally embezzled quite a fortune behind your back.]] |
| 176 | * ForgottenTrope: You read traveler's tales. |
| 177 | * FriendlyEnemy: Even as a Lannister bannerman, you can side with Ned Stark against Joffrey; you contemplate helping the Stark children; Robb takes care of the injured Kirth; Talisa offers Kirth simpathy when he mourns the imprisoned and rashly executed Lannister boys; Ser Hugo comforts Sansa Stark. |
| 178 | * {{Futureshadowing}}: When you enter the House of the Undying you get a glimpse of the future. [[spoiler:The White Walkers have overrun King's Landing, the Iron Throne empty covered in snow, and Jon Snow approaching it.]] |
| 179 | ** Lord Gernert, SelfMadeMan just like your character: [[spoiler: mental illness made him start a battle with SuicidalOverconfidence? Or was he drugged, too?]] |
| 180 | *** [[spoiler: According to his smallfolk, he showed symptoms like yours, and received letters written with Shade of the Evening.]] |
| 181 | * {{Gayngst}}: |
| 182 | --> '''Eutimio''': "Life anywhere is difficult for men such as us." |
| 183 | ** [[ShrinkingViolet Jon]] is surprisingly secure about it, though. |
| 184 | * GenreSavvy: When Ruvayn finally arrives to Westeros, he doesn't march into his rightful holding on his own because he would only be locked up again. He goes to you, a trusted ally, first, for an army to back him up and take the land by force if it's necessary. |
| 185 | * GoingToSeeTheElephant: Rona encourages you to see the dragons when you are in Essos. |
| 186 | * GoodIsNotSoft: You are kind to your subordinates and people in need, [[AFatherToHisMen fight valiantly to defend your smallfolk]], you take pride in having your people freely speak the truth, you are liberal enough to build a sept, a godswood and a R'hllor temple on your holdings but you are ruthless to the other nobles who think you are weak enough to let them bully you. |
| 187 | * HappilyEverAfter: The ending of Forging Bonds is near this, especially if [[spoiler: you make peace with Jorgen. One of the children gets an AwesomeMomentOfCrowning, both of them gets their SoProudOfYou, Jorgen survives [[GrimUpNorth North]], finds the legendary treasure and even love in the process and his mother loves him after all. The Terrei/Ruvayn subplot has a BittersweetEnding, though.]] |
| 188 | * HasAType: [[spoiler: Devan Turner and Moxhala Xho both seem to be naive ExtremeDoormat|s.]] |
| 189 | * HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler: Jorgen after coming home.]] |
| 190 | * HeirClubForMen: The magistrate accepts a daughter as your heir only if you don't have a suitable son. |
| 191 | * HelloInsertNameHere |
| 192 | * HeroicBastard: Derryk saves your and Rolfe's life, which makes Rolfe praise him as nobler than any FeudalOverlord he has ever met, and your description of him raves about the ''fire and nobility'' in his eyes. |
| 193 | ** The players background can be that of a Highborn Bastard. |
| 194 | ** Investigating Gendry, you find out he is quite an admirable character. |
| 195 | ** Odette, [[spoiler: your bastard daughter.]] |
| 196 | * HiddenDepths: Eutimio surprises Jon by [[spoiler: fighting off a team of guards and revealing he is actually a professional at waterdancing.]] |
| 197 | ** Rona and Groat are much more sensitive than meets the eye. |
| 198 | ** Kirth in brains and heroism. |
| 199 | ** Terrei Oridane. [[spoiler: At first, she seems to be suspicious, manipulative, but a possible useful ally. Later she turns out to be a DamselInDistress, seeking protection from her brother-in-law. Then her MamaBear -side shows in her desperate fight to rescue Ruvayn. Then she is seen unexpectedly falling in love with you.]] |
| 200 | * TheHighwayman: [[spoiler: Ser Launcil Hallar, Septa Eleanor's former fiance, now a member of the Brotherhood Without Banners, who kidnaps Eleanor to convince her to elope with him.]] |
| 201 | * HollywoodGenetics: Averted. Everyone related to your character has significant curly dark hair and blue eyes, except Odette, who [[LampshadeHanging probably took after her mother.]] |
| 202 | * HonestAdvisor: Gammer Wilde, Rona, Groat, even Septa Eleanor often [[WhatTheHellHero call you out on]] stupid or immoral decisions while Maester Lucas and Ser Hugo often very obviously hold their tongues when it's time to criticise you. |
| 203 | * HorrifyingTheHorror: White Walkers run like crazy when they see the Greenseer's Glass. |
| 204 | * HotWitch: Melisandre, described to be beautiful and slightly seductive even towards Alvyn. |
| 205 | * HowWeGotHere: You have a storyline of memories from shortly before your spouse mysteriously died, [[spoiler: before you and Jayne separately lead an army against the Silent Lady.]] |
| 206 | * HundredPercentHeroismRating: When you return home to your holdings after defeating the Silent Lady, your smallfolk welcomes you with a cheer, Maester Lucas writes you into the history, and Daenerys Targaryen writes you a praising letter, even if you are a bannerman of her enemies. Later Carellen and Bess bring gifts to you. Or Silvercheek crafts you a beautiful sword if you chose to save his mother previously. |
| 207 | * IdiotBall: While your advisors haven't managed to fully understand why you have your visions, they had no reason to suddenly forget you have ever had any when Gammer falls into a coma and treat it like a completely OutsideContextProblem until '''you''' happen to ask where she is and '''you''' remind Maester Lucas he still has the Vision Maladies book unused. At least they tried listening to her TalkingInYourSleep and decipher it into some useful vision. |
| 208 | * IfIWantedYouDead: Rona's answer to Groat's claim that she teamed up with Silvercheek to frame him. |
| 209 | * IHaveNoSon: Alvyn only looks away or closes his eyes when Elyas is branded or executed. Even if he is freed, Alvyn mourns losing him. |
| 210 | ** [[spoiler: Evalyn Chernoff when Jorgen brings a wildling girl home. She outright says she'd rather have him dead than not be able to use him for an ArrangedMarriage with the deranged Helaine Goldfoot. [[MoralEventHorizon Yikes]].]] |
| 211 | ** [[spoiler: Jayne is actually relieved to be disowned and free to live her own life.]] |
| 212 | * INeedAFreakingDrink: Ser Hugo when he hears about Eutimio taking his place too well. |
| 213 | * ImplausibleDeniability: on the play about your house. |
| 214 | --> '''Company leader:''' "This was once the company of Lady Crane herself!" the leader shouts in Alvyn's face. "And you dare tell us we do not speak the truth?" |
| 215 | --> '''you:''' "You will tell the story of my house as I lived it, or never tell another again." |
| 216 | --> '''Company leader:''' "You can't threaten us like that! These are works of fiction, not diatribes posted in the village square! What harm have we done?" |
| 217 | * ImpoverishedPatrician: The Chernoffs with their small poor manor. |
| 218 | * InformedAbility: The informed ''accomplishment'' variety: |
| 219 | --> "Your boy got himself framed for murder, then let that dandy do all the fighting to get him out of it," Groat points out. "What exactly did he prove?" |
| 220 | ** Jayne is mentioned to be clever, but after all the unnecessary dangers she gets herself into, she seems to be book-smart at best... |
| 221 | * InformedFlaw: Ser Hugo says he can't fight very well anymore, but he still defeats Ser Loras and Brienne in a sparring match. |
| 222 | * InsaneTrollLogic: Groat is severely misinformed about the meaning of "evidence". |
| 223 | * InsultBackfire: |
| 224 | --> '''Jayne''': People speak ill of you. They say you could cheat the gods out of the afterlife. |
| 225 | --> '''You''': Do they, now? A fine compliment--I'm not sure I couldn't! |
| 226 | * InsultToRocks: |
| 227 | --> [when the Boltons ask for a live bear:] |
| 228 | --> '''you''': Find out what you can, Rona. I don't like the thought of brutal men with a brutal pet. |
| 229 | --> '''Rona''': I will, my [lord/lady]. For the bear's sake. |
| 230 | * InterclassRomance: Gulian Belmore and Alyse. |
| 231 | ** You can be a ''minor noble by marriage'', a former peasant who married a nobleman. |
| 232 | ** Eutimio is just an unemployed foreign guard, though not that is the object of scandal... |
| 233 | * IronLady: If you are female. You are a good fighter and no-nonsense strategist. |
| 234 | * IrrationalHatred: though it has a slight base (depending on your background, but sometimes it's only a MisplacedRetribution), Lord Roxton practically has this for you. Even Lord Regenard admits that. |
| 235 | * ISurrenderSuckers: When you receive a command to bend the knee to the Boltons, you can decide to humor it, but undermine them from within. |
| 236 | * IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy: |
| 237 | --> '''you''': You would let the man you love marry another woman? |
| 238 | --> '''Alyse''': By the old gods, my heart would break, m'[lady/lord]. But I could live with that pain, if Gulian were happy. |
| 239 | ** |
| 240 | --> '''Ask what Rolfe thought of the late [Your Spouse].''' |
| 241 | --> The elder man sighs. "A good [father/mother]. Did things for [Your Character] I could never do on my own. I hope they were happy." |
| 242 | * TheJeeves: Maester Lucas often takes up this role to you, gently leading you as a beginner noble and hiring most of the advisors you will need. |
| 243 | * JerkassHasAPoint: Lady Belmore, even with all her snobbery, when mentioning Alyse isn't the first fleeting romance of Gulian's. |
| 244 | ** Even your character agrees with Lady Chernoff about Jorgen's marriage: it's selfish of a noble to MarryForLove at all costs if he could easily keep lovers without ruining his house. |
| 245 | * JockDadNerdSon: Subverted. Jon is taught fighting for his own good but you accept and support him even at the expense of your own ambitions. |
| 246 | --> "You have always understood me," Jon tells you gratefully. "Another [lord/lady] would have disdained a son like me." |
| 247 | * KarmicJackpot: Through Odette, you have the chance to take a leftover ''Great House''. [[spoiler: It turns out to be a scam, but Queen Cersei still wants you to take charge of the Stormlands in her name.]] |
| 248 | * KindheartedSimpleton: Devan Turner, who is good-natured but weak-willed and naive, incompetent at being in charge, at least compared to you and Jayne. |
| 249 | * KingOnHisDeathbed: You are only comatose, but it's enough for a temporary chaos as your advisors desperately try to cover up your illness and Jon struggles with TheChainsOfCommanding. |
| 250 | * KnightTemplar: Melisandre, convinced she always acts in the name of the [[LightIsGood Lord of Light]]. |
| 251 | * KnightTemplarParent: You may start wars for your children if you are pushed far enough. |
| 252 | * LadykillerInLove: Jorgen only used women for gain until he threw his title and family away for Liadain. |
| 253 | * LadyMacbeth: Evalyn Chernoff, who locks her husband into a septry to marry Lord Lothan Oridane and wants to use Jorgen for an ArrangedMarriage for the Goldfoots' support. |
| 254 | * LaserGuidedKarma: [[spoiler: Harm Lord Roxton's relatives before your nobility]] and he wars against you until he is killed. |
| 255 | ** Your father used and discarded Gwenys and she will take her revenge on you. |
| 256 | ** [[spoiler: Banish the slavers from their land]] and the Silent Lady won't give you a break. |
| 257 | ** With the whisperer background, you are blackmailed with your past. |
| 258 | ** [[spoiler: Ella needed to be used and discarded to learn a lesson about trusting a charming swindler and helping him against her own family.]] |
| 259 | ** In the ''Sons Of the Harpy'' Bonus Quest, catching the slaves and giving them back to their masters instead of helping them escape only earns you a payment "discussed but not yet paid". |
| 260 | ** [[spoiler: Jorgen gets in trouble far from home but manages to come out triumphant, falls in love with the kindly stranger who saved his life, but returning home, he is judged and disowned for his love. The same fate he tried to scheme Jon into.]] |
| 261 | ** Not to mention he is used and discarded by his mother, like he had used and discarded Ella. |
| 262 | ** Your open-mindedness gains you valuable allies like [[WidowWitch Gammer Wilde]], Eutimio, [[MagicalNegro Udemi]] and [[HeroicBastard Odette]]. |
| 263 | ** Lady Chernoff, on the other hand, loses your holding for good virtually for being a SocialClimber and not accepting Liadain. |
| 264 | * TheLeader: You are the one who always gets entrusted with power and responsibility, and you were quite influential even before you received nobility. |
| 265 | * LeftHanging: What about the children's nobility? Was it solved with a simple talk with the king's advisors or a retort to the Chernoffs? As big a fuss it's started with, one could expect some storylines be about struggling to secure their status, or at least stressing this aspect of [[NobilityMarriesMoney marrying them off]]. [[FridgeLogic Or have they earned being heirs by having their self-proving adventures?]] |
| 266 | * LikeParentLikeSpouse: Your spouse is implied to have been a WideEyedIdealist, so is Devan and Eutimio. |
| 267 | * LipstickLesbian: [[spoiler: Carellen and Bess.]] |
| 268 | * LivingMacguffin: [[SonOfAWhore Derryk]], in the king's special care and competed for by Lord Harlton and Lord Roxton. |
| 269 | * LockedAwayInAMonastery: Lord Chernoff. |
| 270 | * LongBusTrip: Jayne goes to the Vale disguised as a servant boy to be your agent in Volume You, but becomes so devoted to Littlefinger she doesn't go home even when you choose your heir, and is seen less and less by Breaking Ties. |
| 271 | * TheLostLenore: Ser Hugo's wife and your spouse. |
| 272 | * LostOrphanedRoyalty: Derryk and Gendry. |
| 273 | * LostTechnology: Your people stumble upon beautiful Targaryen artifacts in a practically indestructible abandoned castle. You can decide to [[MundaneUtility sell the artifacts and use the castle as a secondary holdfast.]] |
| 274 | * LukeYouAreMyFather: Odette, for you. No way to make sure, but your household agrees it's probable. [[FridgeLogic They say she doesn't look related to you, though.]] |
| 275 | * LustObject: You seem to be for Lady Ester Goldfoot. |
| 276 | * MadScientist: Videnzio. |
| 277 | * MagicalNegro: Udemi who is maegi from Essos, and practices BloodMagic. |
| 278 | * MagicalQueer: Eutimio, TheCharmer, MrExposition, MasterSwordsman and WideEyedIdealist. |
| 279 | * [[PoliceAreUseless Magistrate Is Useless]]: Evalyn Chernoff faces no legal consequences whatsoever for '''selling a lord into slavery'''. |
| 280 | * MagneticHero: Ser Hugo [[IGaveMyWord runs to your service]] as soon as his injury allows him, even if these injuries crippled his fighting skills; Rona risks her life to [[FamilyOfChoice rescue your daughter]]; your smallfolk instantly bow to your authority; Alvyn turns his criminal son in; Devan always turns to '''you''' for advices instead of his father or even Jayne. |
| 281 | ** You are also the mark for plenty of IrrationalHatred, attacking, swindling and bullying by other nobles. |
| 282 | ** Odette isn't interested in nobility or finding her DNA, only wants '''you''', specifically, to adopt her, though you didn't even have the time to really bond. |
| 283 | * TheMagnificent: You can get titles if you reach a certain level on each alignment. |
| 284 | * MakeItLookLikeAnAccident: You can do this after secretly executing Ser Dwyer Goldfoot for murdering Brion Tomley and his two friends. |
| 285 | * MassiveNumberedSiblings: You are surprised at Munda having ten sons. |
| 286 | * MaybeMagicMaybeMundane: [[spoiler: The mysterious letters turn out to be drugged with Shade of the Evening, which is said to give insight into past and future. [[VoodooShark And only used by warlocks in Qarth. And it somehow affects only you.]]]] |
| 287 | ** [[spoiler: [[FridgeLogic The ink was drugged.]]]] |
| 288 | ** The visions themselves, unlike greensight, are always about the past within your lifetime, about events in common knowledge. Nothing which would take anything supernatural for you to know or make up details of in a normal dream. [[spoiler: Except maybe baby Nyall or Jon Snow's real name.]] |
| 289 | ** Gammer [[spoiler: may or may not be a child of the forest herself.]] |
| 290 | ** The injured Eutimio has a vision of Jon which may be a drug-induced hallucination or [[MindlinkMates some kind of contact.]] |
| 291 | * MeaningfulName: Groat ('coin'). |
| 292 | ** Rona: [[http://www.sheknows.com/baby-names/name/rona "People with this name have a deep inner need for quiet, and a desire to understand and analyze the world they live in, and to learn the deeper truths."]] |
| 293 | *** Rona '''Grey''' once served the '''Greyjoys'''. |
| 294 | ** Eutimio ('[[TheCharmer good spirits]]') |
| 295 | ** Rolfe ('peasant') |
| 296 | ** Ella ('[[TheFace fairy woman]]') |
| 297 | ** Regenard [[{{Turncoat}} Turner]] |
| 298 | ** Gernert ('granary') |
| 299 | ** BarbarianHero Liadain, who is uncomfortable in your big stone castle, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liadain has a name]] from DarkAgeEurope. |
| 300 | *** On the other hand, Italian-named people of the Free Cities are closer to Renaissance and have prejudices about TheHighMiddleAges of Westeros. |
| 301 | ** Nyall ('champion') |
| 302 | * MedicationTampering: The Silent Lady poisons Maester Lucas this way. |
| 303 | * MedievalMorons: Most of the smallfolk are DumbMuscle (though a good portion seems to be resourceful BookDumb, like Gammer Wilde, Silvercheek, Sanjen and Mervick), highborn AristocratsAreEvil, self-made lowborns like your character are [[OnlySaneMan Only Sane Men]], but the really admirable characters are LostOrphanedRoyalty. |
| 304 | ** Discussed: |
| 305 | --> '''you''': ''Take care, Groat. Farmer does not mean fool.'' |
| 306 | * MenActWomenAre: Brienne helped a lot at keeping Ser Jaime safe at the Boltons, but Septa Eleanor degrades her into just an eccentric DamselInDistress when Jaime goes to her defense. |
| 307 | * MenAreUncultured: Rona teaches Jayne how to disguise herself as a man by teaching her how to be arrogant and vulgar. |
| 308 | * MiddleChildSyndrome: Jon acts like he is TheUnfavorite. While the girls rebel, he craves to make you proud. You ''can'' act like an abusive critical parent towards him, though. |
| 309 | * MisplacedRetribution: Lord Roxton's if you are a former whisperer. [[spoiler: All you did was let his sister know that her husband is cheating on her. It's hardly your fault she solved this conflict by trying to '''kill''' her husband.]] |
| 310 | ** If you are a bastard. [[spoiler: How could you have anything to do with his LoveTriangle with your parents?]] |
| 311 | ** Gwenys Pender, the mason, who starts [[AxCrazy poisoning your smallfolk]] because your father jilted her long ago. |
| 312 | * MistreatmentInducedBetrayal: [[spoiler: However much of an ExtremeDoormat LoveMartyr puppet Jorgen may have been for his mother, her disowning him for wanting to MarryForLove was the last straw, which made him switch sides.]] |
| 313 | ** Evalyn Chernoff alienates Lord Oridane, too, by selling his nephew into slavery. |
| 314 | * MoralDisambiguation: While [[SmugSnake Evalyn Chernoff]] isn't likeable even at first impression, the house, cheated out of their birthright by King Robert's negligence, could be actually sympathized with, and leave even your family doubtful about which side is the real invader there. However, Evalyn's underhanded ways, sacrificing her own family members in her war against your character, even [[VillainByDefault selling a lord into slavery]], gradually transform her into StupidEvil, making even your character uprooting House Chernoff nothing worse than rightful self-defense. |
| 315 | ** And there is the way how either of you reacts when your sons get a less than proper LoveInterest. She disowns her son, you welcome Eutimio in the household. |
| 316 | * MoralityChain: Your husband/wife for you and Jayne. |
| 317 | * MovingTheGoalposts: Councillor Lorenzo makes Jon run more and more risky errands to consider giving him a loan. |
| 318 | * {{MST}}: You and your advisors spend much time commenting on what's happening in the series plot. |
| 319 | * MuggingTheMonster: The Traders' Guild, which starts demanding unreasonably high prices from you (and only you in the region), [[spoiler: threaten you, set your storehouse on fire and send assassins into your castle. After you have defeated much more powerful enemies. They end up recruiting a RagtagBunchOfMisfits army against you, and after defeating them, you can [[YouKillItYouBoughtIt seize the ownership over the Guild, and control it as you want]].]] |
| 320 | ** Your assassins surprising you alone, assuming you would be [[RichInDollarsPoorInSense helpless without your guards nearby]]. |
| 321 | ** Jakeb (or his brother) [[spoiler: luring you into the woods to kill you.]] |
| 322 | --> '''[[OnlySaneMan you]]''': What do you think will happen here? You'll murder a [lord/lady] and get away with it? |
| 323 | * NobleFugitive: Derryk, Gendry, the orphan boy left as the last of the Fowlhorns, hunted after by Ser Goldfoot and the Stark children. |
| 324 | * MushroomSamba: You have quests to interact with grumkins and snarks, [[spoiler: after drinking poisoned wine.]] |
| 325 | * MysteriousPast: You are implied to have one to be blackmailed with. |
| 326 | * NearVillainVictory: [[spoiler: Jorgen and Liadain are wrestling with a White Walker when they suddenly find the Greenseer's Glass to repel it with.]] |
| 327 | ** Liadain and your soldiers are saved from wights at the last minute by a child of the forest. |
| 328 | * NegatedMomentOfAwesome: Odette is killed off in Winterfell just as easily as the sworn swords were. |
| 329 | * NervesOfSteel: Ser Hugo and the other guards get into a near-panic attack at the sight of a captive wight. You improvise a battle against them without missing a beat, then want to stay under raining pieces of Wall to look for Tormund. |
| 330 | * NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: You keep [[MentalTimeTravel dreaming of historical events]] even in Volume 6, though your household has already made sure you aren't being drugged. [[LampshadeHanging Maester Lucas goes back to the Citadel to research what causes it, though.]] |
| 331 | ** Gammer's emergency power of sharing her vision with you. |
| 332 | * NiceJobFixingItVillain: Groat is visibly disappointed if you '''don't''' imprison Alvyn for his religion, after he tried to make you suspicious of him. |
| 333 | * NominalImportance: Getting a portrait signifies a character stepping up from FlatCharacter to an important participant of the plot, see Eutimio, Jon, Ella, Farradhar and Ser Josian. |
| 334 | * NoSenseOfPersonalSpace: Gammer breaks into your bedroom unapologetically, either to alert you about a dream or simply being [[TheDeterminator hellbent to meet you]], so you'd better let her in when she asks to. |
| 335 | * NotGoodWithRejection: Even your guards have trouble restraining Ester Goldfoot if you kidnap her and [[ArentYouGoingToRavishMe don't have sex with her.]] |
| 336 | * NotQuiteDead: [[spoiler: Jorgen.]] |
| 337 | ** Eutimio shocks Silent Sisters when he wakes up on the battlefield. |
| 338 | * NotQuiteTheRightThing: With Lord Cley. [[spoiler: He murders a HookerWithAHeartOfGold ForTheEvulz,]] but he is offering a very profitable business between your houses. Will you be lawful or will you cover up for him for the gain? [[spoiler: If you put him on trial, he will buy himself out of trouble and walks away scot-free. If you cover up his crime, you'll have the chance to let his crime be avenged.]] |
| 339 | * NoWomansLand: Subverted. Misogyny is often mentioned, but there '''are''' female masons, smiths, knights, merchants, slavers, priestesses, even Queens, and you have no problems being a [[FeudalOverlord Feudal Overlady]]. Not to mention [[ColonelBadass Yara Greyjoy]] in the informedly misogynistic Iron Isles. |
| 340 | * ObfuscatingStupidity: Kirth is underestimated for [[SpoonyBard his profession]], but he proves to be a very capable agent and less of a leech than you thought. |
| 341 | * ObstructiveLoveInterest: [[spoiler: Liadain when demanding Jorgen marry her, despite of him having told her he can't and she seemed to comprehend it. Still she irrationally expected him to be suddenly able to after the sex, and was about to abandon him in the cold in a fit of revenge when he still said no. Compared to Terrei, who accepted your rejection with dignity and was willing to find another way to uphold your alliance, and Eutimio, who had the common sense not to demand Jon come out and never get married.]] |
| 342 | * OhCrap: |
| 343 | --> "'''The wights that attacked them were south of the Wall?'''" |
| 344 | --> "Yes, my [lord/lady]. About a league south, according to the report." Maester Lucas and you both glance at the map, mentally measuring the distance to here. |
| 345 | * OldMaid: Rona is quite family-centered but still MarriedToTheJob, and despite being middle-aged, not known to have had a family since her parents' death. |
| 346 | * OldSoldier: Rolfe, Ser Hugo. |
| 347 | * OlderThanTheyLook: Jakeb mistakes 18-ish Jon for a child. |
| 348 | * OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Munda's eldest son Silvercheek. |
| 349 | * OnlySaneMan: You among your sociopathic neighbors, immature cousins and impulsive teenage children, sometimes even among your [[QuirkyHousehold advisors]]. |
| 350 | ** Yours is the least DysfunctionalFamily among the noble houses InUniverse, with your typical teenage, but bright and good-hearted children, and your quirky but likeable advisors. |
| 351 | ** [[ValuesDissonance Everybody is shocked]] that you are accepting of your gay son. |
| 352 | -->"My [lord/lady]!" Ella looks shocked. "You don't really think Jon is some...pervert, do you?" She studies your face. "You do! He is! And you don't mind!" |
| 353 | -->'''you''':"I loved [[TheLostLenore your [mother/father],]] Ella. I won't condemn any of my children for finding that love." |
| 354 | *** Though everyone else seems to get over it after a [[DiabolusExNihilo short scandal.]] |
| 355 | ** Rolfe along with Jon Snow in the Night's Watch, especially while he snaps in frustration that they shouldn't beg the wildlings to let them save their lives. |
| 356 | ** Usually your agents act like this in the series' events, even if they have to act OutOfCharacter for that. |
| 357 | ** Your family's sometimes eccentricly [[PoliticallyCorrectHistory 21st century mindset]] ends up saving the day when dealing with issues about [[http://gotascent.wikia.com/wiki/Upsetting_Order feminism]], [[http://gotascent.wikia.com/wiki/Straight_to_the_Source democracy]], [[http://gotascent.wikia.com/wiki/A_Life_Forever_Altered disability]] , [[http://gotascent.wikia.com/wiki/Still_Looking homosexuality]], [[http://gotascent.wikia.com/wiki/Our_Bastard_Sister bastardry]] or [[http://gotascent.wikia.com/wiki/Lord_of_These_Lands/Friendship the value of intelligence vs physical strength]]. |
| 358 | * OpenMindedParent: You can't have a particularly bad reaction when [[spoiler: Jon brings a boyfriend home.]] |
| 359 | * OutOfCharacterMoment: You can make some if you control your agents. |
| 360 | * OutlivingOnesOffspring: [[spoiler: Odette.]] |
| 361 | * OutsideContextProblem: The volcano in Essos. Only Maester Lucas has some scarce idea what it might be. |
| 362 | ** Maesters don't know what to do with mental illness [[spoiler: what Lord Gernert clearly has.]] |
| 363 | * ParentalMarriageVeto: [[spoiler: Lady Chernoff disowns Jorgen for marrying Liadain.]] |
| 364 | * ParentalNeglect: there doesn't seem to be an etiquette for your children to call you by your title, given that everyone else about your rank is called "mother"/"father" by theirs. |
| 365 | ** Ella is missing for a day and ''you don't even notice without being told''. |
| 366 | * ParentalSexualitySquick: Jon and Ella get uncomfortable while discussing how you had Odette. |
| 367 | * PerfectlyArrangedMarriage: [[spoiler: between Jayne and Devan.]] |
| 368 | ** [[spoiler: About to happen between you and Terrei Oridane.]] |
| 369 | * ThePlague: Sometimes appears in bonus quests. |
| 370 | ** The Shiver. |
| 371 | * PlayingTheVictimCard: |
| 372 | --> [when he was called out on being willing to get Sansa killed for his ambitions]: |
| 373 | --> Baelish frowns. "No one ever trusts a man who makes his own success. Why is my rise to power worse because it is on my own industry and not my birth?" |
| 374 | ** [[spoiler: Jakeb/his brother after Jakeb kept invading your bedroom and threatening to slander you, condescendingly refusing to talk to Jon, until your children got desperate enough to imprison/execute him.]] |
| 375 | * PlotHole: You are told your children are officially still smallfolk and can't be your heirs, in volume ''Forging Bonds''. It suddenly wasn't a problem by the end of the same volume, without any diplomacy, ritual or even a passing mention resolving it. |
| 376 | --> Jon gives Ella an affectionate cuff. "You're too young to remember before. You've always lived in a castle. Don't take it for granted." |
| 377 | ** Though she is 13, and fours years passed at most since you received nobility. She '''is''' supposed to be old enough to remember clearly. |
| 378 | ** You had the Greenseer's Glass obtained just to forget it, JustBeforeTheEnd when it could save all Westeros if you bothered to use it. [[WatsonianVersusDoylist It's understandable that we can't diverge the series' plot,]] but then what was the point of obtaining it? |
| 379 | ** Jon is careful not to touch the door handle of the Iron Bank when fleeing the murder scene. Are the Free Cities really advanced enough to collect and analyse fingerprints? |
| 380 | ** The Summer Isles apparently have invented ''paper''. |
| 381 | * PscyhcoSupporter: Groat, who has a machiavellian morality, but seems to [[TrueCompanions care for you]] deep down, [[spoiler: when sympathizing with your widowhood after he loses [[HookerWithAHeartOfGold Kyra]].]] |
| 382 | * PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: The Silent Lady, [[spoiler: a slaver.]] |
| 383 | ** Jorgen Chernoff took the last straw when [[spoiler: he slandered Jon for being gay.]] |
| 384 | * PoorCommunicationKills: Neither Sprout nor Gammer ([[spoiler: or whatever was possessing her]]) was willing to simply tell you [[spoiler: "wights are beyond that cave, the dragonglass is there to keep them contained"]], but expected you to listen to 'VaguenessIsComing, don't touch this priceless-looking resource because we said so'. |
| 385 | * PragmaticVillainy: The Goldfoots are ready to declare war against you for executing their family member, withholding a piece of land or [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking scoring better at the inspection drill,]] but after you kill every member of the Chernoff family, they stop the battle and go home. |
| 386 | -->[[IDontLikeYouAndYouDontLikeMe "I don't like you," Ser Deityr says. "And you don't like me.]] But neither of us wants to bleed any more for this if there's nothing to gain." |
| 387 | * PreClimaxClimax: [[spoiler: Jon and Eutimio's consummation quest, even titled ''If We Die Tomorrow'', takes place before they start collecting evidence against Nicomede to confront the council about it.]] |
| 388 | ** [[spoiler: Liadain's and Jorgen's first sex.]] |
| 389 | * ProducePelting: Sometimes Groat enters the castle covered with vegetables if the smallfolk is displeased with him. |
| 390 | * PromotedToParent: Silvercheek takes care of his brothers in Munda's absence. |
| 391 | * ProperLady: Lady Buckwell. |
| 392 | * PutOnABus: Jayne and Ser Hugo in Forging Bonds. |
| 393 | * ReasonableAuthorityFigure: You take [[WidowWitch Gammer Wilde]]'s [[DreamingOfThingsToCome dreams]] seriously, at least after she dreamt about your smallfolk FeudingFamilies killing each other. If you don't believe her, Ser Hugo [[TheCloudcuckoolanderWasRight confirms it]] thereafter. She even joins your advisors and regularly reports you her dreams. |
| 394 | * RedeemingReplacement: After Jayne leaves her home behind with no intention to return to serve Littlefinger and leaves her responsibilities to you, arrives Odette from overseas, eager to belong to your family and jumping at every chance to help you out. |
| 395 | * RegentForLife: Lord Oridane keeps Ruvayn, the rightful lord locked up so he can keep his lands. |
| 396 | * RejectedApology: [[WomanScorned Gwenys]] beats your sworn sword to pulp if you try and send her an apology. |
| 397 | * RelationshipSalvagingDisaster: after the incident with the White Walker, Jorgen and Liadain, who were about to break up on bad terms, decide to never let each other go again. |
| 398 | ** Evalyn Chernoff, [[spoiler: when he sees Jorgen is about to be killed in war, realizes she loves him more than your holding.]] |
| 399 | * RevengeBeforeReason: [[TheRival Evalyn Chernoff]], [[spoiler: to avenge her son, [[RevengeByProxy sells Ruvayn Oridane into slavery]], turning her much needed powerful ally against herself. Even the law, since slavery is illegal in Westeros. A lone, poor woman who has lost her only child and threw her husband away, starts to antagonize every authority she could ask for help... [[SelfDisposingVillain thanks for the holding on a silver platter.]]]] |
| 400 | * RewardedAsATraitorDeserves: You can do this to [[spoiler: Jorgen.]] |
| 401 | * RiskingTheKing: You go to Essos after the Silent Lady with Ser Hugo, Rona, Groat and the elite of your army and end up being the one meeting her in her base in the FinalBattle. |
| 402 | ** You go to Qarth yourself to investigate the mystery of the letters and visions while your heir rules your holding in your stead. |
| 403 | * RivalTurnedEvil: Evalyn Chernoff was never a graceful opponent, but she is veering into StupidEvil territory as your rivalry escalates. |
| 404 | * RomancingTheWidow: both Terrei Oridane and your character. |
| 405 | * RoyalWe: Daenerys Targaryen in her letter, promising she will remember your slave-freeing heroism "''when we will be Queen''". |
| 406 | * RuleOfCreepy: Septon Conary's creepy leering grin is often mentioned before you learn that [[spoiler: he has destroyed entire villages with his cult and drugs his followers into blind obedience.]] |
| 407 | * SacredHospitality: Ser Hugo visibly frowns if you say Ser Medwyk would be more comfortable at an inn, and he looks at you gratefully if you give him a chamber to stay. |
| 408 | ** Your fellow bannermen disapprove if you offend hospitality to put Septon Conary down. |
| 409 | * SadisticChoice: You must choose whether to save the inn from the supporters of the Three or go after the Silent Lady and free your enslaved smallfolk. You don't have enough soldiers for both. |
| 410 | * SanitySlippage: Farmer Lewyn from the grief when he chases the Silent Sisters away from his wife's body. |
| 411 | * ScrewTheRulesIHaveMoney: Lord Cley murders a prostitute in your holdings, but simply buys himself out of trouble. |
| 412 | ** With the merchant background, everyone is convinced you do nothing but bribe and get bribed. |
| 413 | * ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight: Rona, when she transgresses your command to rescue Jayne. Because she is [[EstablishingCharacterMoment family]]. |
| 414 | * ScriptedEvent |
| 415 | * SecondPersonNarration: unless the frequent SwitchingPOV to your agents or other acquaintances so you can act and experience for them first-hand. |
| 416 | * SecretTestOfCharacter: Melisandre makes Alvyn help her carry a chest, the content of which she keeps conspicuously hidden from him. [[spoiler: It's empty.]] |
| 417 | ** Maybe also Gammer, [[spoiler: who is much more spry than she seems to be, and can easily sneak into your bedroom]], asking for an audience, to see whether you would let a poor old woman in. |
| 418 | ** Farradhar's prank of kidnapping Odette, whether you would care enough to rescue her. |
| 419 | * SelfInsert: Also InUniverse, you blend in in your visions as a knight in the joust of Harrenhal, as a dragon rider in Queen Rhaenyra's court and as [Your First Name] [Bastard Surname] in Demon Blackfire's army, Gammer is also a wolf in her dreams. |
| 420 | * SelfMadeMan: the PlayerCharacter, with a successful career behind them, finally ascending into a FeudalOverlord in Westeros at the beginning of the story, growing more and more powerful as the story progresses, but still underestimated as an "upstart". |
| 421 | ** Ser Hugo Flint, who has been knighted from a common soldier. You promote him into your captain when you receive your nobility. |
| 422 | ** Inverted with [[spoiler: [[StarCrossedLovers Septa Eleanor and Ser Launcil Hallar]], who come from BlueBlood, but after a ParentalMarriageVeto the former ended up TakingTheVeil and the latter joined the [[WeHelpTheHelpless Brotherhood Without Banners]]]]. |
| 423 | * SeniorSleepCycle: Gammer is often napping on the hearth during your conferences. |
| 424 | * ShelteredAristocrat: Devan Turner proves himself to be when he needs your help in a smallfolk uprising in the ''A House In Need'' storyline. |
| 425 | * SheCleansUpNicely: Odette can look like a lady if she wants to, which she proves by making herself over for marriage. |
| 426 | * ShootTheDog: One random mission has you deal with a ship full of infected sailors, your choices are either to sink it or send them to someone else's port. |
| 427 | * ShrinkingViolet: Alvyn is so nervous when Maester Lucas brings him to you to hire you ask him whether he is all right. This impression isn't helped by his stuttering either. |
| 428 | * SiblingRivalry: Jon often feels like TheUnfavorite before [[spoiler: Braavos]], Ella is jealous of Jon after it. |
| 429 | ** Nyall and Vesavan are half-brothers. |
| 430 | * SignificantNameOverlap: When the injured Eutimio mentions wanting to see Jon in Winterfell, the others think he means Jon Snow. |
| 431 | * SinisterMinister: Septon Conary. |
| 432 | * SketchySuccessor: Devan Turner, who means well but is incompetent. |
| 433 | * SlaveryIsaSpecialKindOfEvil: You earn your nobility and HundredPercentHeroismRating by SlaveLiberation while the Silent Lady and Lady Chernoff cross the MoralEventHorizon by participating in slave trade. |
| 434 | * TheSocialExpert: Ella, Rona and your character, according to your perceptive descriptions of people you interact with. |
| 435 | * SomebodyElsesProblem: Princess Lyria refuses to do anything to nip Moxhala's rise to power in the bud until her own borders are threatened, which may be also SuicidalOverconfidence. |
| 436 | * SoProudOfYou: To Jayne after she goes to investigate the blackmailing letters, to Jon after Braavos and to Ella after she brings Tarryl to justice. |
| 437 | * SpeechImpediment: Alvyn's stuttering is often made fun of, even in the storyline titles ''The M-Market Overseer'' and ''Arriving at D-Dragonstone''. |
| 438 | * SpitTake: Ser Hugo spits strongwine all over his tunic when a noble friend's fosterling accuses him of [[TheBabyTrap fathering her child]]. |
| 439 | * SpoonyBard: Your cousin Kirth. |
| 440 | * StrangeSyntaxSpeaker: The Faceless Man Jon meets is a mild example, addressing him as "a boy". |
| 441 | * StrangerBehindTheMask: The Silent Lady. Guesses had been made who she might be, but she end up [[spoiler: being just a slaver with a deformed face.]] |
| 442 | * TheStrategist: Your role in your quests. |
| 443 | * StupidEvil: Lord Regenard Turner, who [[spoiler: blindly believed your '''common''' enemy, Lord Roxton, and attacked you, threatened you in your prison, conspired with the Silent Lady against you when you were a family member, who kidnapped his son in return.]] |
| 444 | * SubordinateExcuse: |
| 445 | --> '''Eutimio''': "...let me be your bodyguard, your trainer, however your [lord/lady] will have me." |
| 446 | * SuccessionCrisis: Your main problem in the volume Forging Bonds. Your gay son aside, you only have daughters. |
| 447 | * SuspiciousSpending: Rona gets suspicious about a farmer who suddenly became rich enough to buy his own field for gold. |
| 448 | * SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: Odette for Jayne. |
| 449 | * SweetPollyOliver: [[spoiler: Jayne goes to the Vale as your agent disguised as a boy.]] |
| 450 | ** And of course [[{{Tomboy}} Arya Stark]]. |
| 451 | * TakingYouWithMe: The Silent Lady, while dying, [[spoiler: throws wildfire into the fireplace, exploding the room where you met in private. You are saved by your sworn sword and rescued by your advisors, but she burns to death.]] |
| 452 | * TechTree: You gain experience points for each time you level up, and use them to increase you abilities. There's also a fealty tree which provide an extra boost on certain talents which depends on the House you are sworn to. Stark (Aid), Baratheon (Battle), Greyjoy (Harass), Lannister (Swindle), Tyrell (Bribe), Tully (Barter), Targaryen (Spy), Martell(Sabotage), and Aryn (Steal). |
| 453 | * TextileWorkIsFeminine: Ella was taught sewing as a little girl while Jon was taught fencing. |
| 454 | * ThrowingOffTheDisability: Eutimio loses memories due to concussion, but Melisandre helps him get them back. |
| 455 | * TitleDrop: Every quest has one. |
| 456 | * TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth: Your idealist husband and [[spoiler: the kind, naive Devan.]] |
| 457 | * TookALevelInBadass: [[spoiler: Jon in Braavos.]] In the beginning, he is anxious to earn your approval and feels sorry for the Chernoffs, toward the end of ''Forging Bonds'', he is defiantly secure about his orientation and okay with sending Jorgen on a SuicideMission. |
| 458 | * TookALevelInCynic: The initially idealistic Jayne, who thought your AmbitionIsEvil, takes to having ''Littlefinger'' as a role model after Devan's death. |
| 459 | * TookALevelInKindness: Jorgen gets over his calculating ways after north and getting together with Liadain. |
| 460 | * ATragedyOfImpulsiveness: Especially Jayne's problem. [[spoiler: She loses an arm after riding into the woods alone, and a husband for leading an army after you despite knowing nothing about war and flipping out at the Silent Lady when she is holding Devan at swordpoint.]] Ella also has her DamselScrappy moments in ''Forging Bonds'', though both tend to fight their way out of trouble. |
| 461 | * UnseenEvil: The Silent Lady, TheManBehindTheMan for all your enemies, who [[NothingIsScarier hides her face]] behind a fabric and mostly writes notes instead of speaking, probably because she is [[TheGrotesque malformed]]. Your smallfolk even thinks she is a [[TheSpook ''spirit'']] of the forest. |
| 462 | * UnableToSupportAWife: the main reason you couldn't raise Odette. |
| 463 | * TheUnapologetic: All your children, after they get in trouble for their impulsiveness. |
| 464 | * UngratefulBastard: The Iron Bank council. Eutimio rids them of Nicomede at their request, and gets fired as thanks. At least he [[ConvenientlyAnOrphan gets to go home with Jon]], and Jon gets the loan as a gift. |
| 465 | * UnusualEuphemism: |
| 466 | --> '''Merchant''': No offense, m'[lord/lady], but we hear Jon plays the sheath for that Braavosi swordsman. |
| 467 | * VagueAge: Your characters age is not stated, though Odette's age and yours when you made her would make you 36-40. |
| 468 | * VideoGameCaringPotential: You can help a knight's daughter, who ran away from a forced marriage, hide in your holdings, making her sob in relief; allow slaves of Essos to escape on your merchant ships; help Bess find Carellen after both got injured in a minor battle at the inn; give a deserter's widow and ten children a job in your smithy; give medicines to a soldier who left his post to take care of his sick family instead of punishing him; rescue some Unsullied slaves; save the swindler smith hunted for. Ser Hugo can sabotage the Gold Cloaks' job of kidnapping orphan girls for King Joffrey's sadistic pleasure. |
| 469 | * VideoGameCrueltyPotential: You can exhaust you smallfolk cruelly when plowing a newfound land, force Gammer to continue her horrifying dreams and imprison poor Alvyn for [[spoiler: seeking solace in R'hllor after his son's disgrace.]] After defeating the Silent Lady, you can use her prepared operations to... [[NotSoAboveItAll become a slaver yourself]]. You can act like an abusive critical parent to Jon when he already feels like TheUnfavorite. You can order little peasant boys be killed (like the stable boy who found the Silent Lady's knife or the one her men had bring you Devan's hand). |
| 470 | ** The way you can throw Lord Damrosch out of Brewer's Shore. |
| 471 | --> '''you''': Brewer's Shore is mine now. Find somewhere else to die, old man. |
| 472 | --> Lord Damrosch trembles on the edge of tears, but masters them and walks out stiffly, under guard. "I should have fought you to the death!" he spits. |
| 473 | * WantsAPrizeForBasicDecency: Yara Greyjoy besieges your shores to [[spoiler: peacefully inquire about her brother's whereabouts. Well, she sent your surviving men home, didn't she?]] |
| 474 | ** The Silent Lady, asking for a cease-fire. Because she also left your house standing. |
| 475 | ** Rona gives you a brief hero-worship for not wanting to be a slaver out of mere greed. |
| 476 | * WarRefugees: They stop you toward the end of Volume 1 to blackmail a donation out of you. |
| 477 | * WeHaveWaysOfMakingYouTalk: Can be done to Yorik the slaver. |
| 478 | * WellDoneSonGuy: Jon seems to be especially eager to make you proud, Maester Lucas advises you to give him more personal affection and encouragement (''"You should talk to Jon," Maester Lucas says pointedly. "If he's to represent us abroad, he needs to know you believe in him."''; ''Maester Lucas bows. "Of course, my [lady/lord]. I'll fetch parchment and quill at once. I think it would mean a lot to Jon if the letter came from you."''). He goes as far as risking his life in his Braavosi persecution to prove himself, despite your effort to bring him home to safety. |
| 479 | ** Jorgen rather risks his life going north than give up and disappoint his mother. |
| 480 | * WhatTheHellHero: Rona is furious at you and Septa Eleanor is also disapproving if you refuse to rescue Brienne of Tarth from the Boltons as well as Ser Jaime, saying she is [[SomebodyElsesProblem neither family nor fealty]]. |
| 481 | ** Septa Eleanor weeps and Rona disapproves if you go to your son-in-law's holdings [[ItMakesSenseInContext with an army]]. |
| 482 | ** And what you receive if you decide to become a slaver after the Silent Lady... |
| 483 | ** Ella feels like you have crossed a line by sending Jorgen to a SuicideMission, though [[BewareOfTheNiceOnes Jon doesn't.]] |
| 484 | * WhatYearIsThis: You actually try asking this in one of your visions, with not much success. |
| 485 | * WideEyedIdealist: probably your spouse was, having taught Jayne for New Ways morality, and smiling at you when you say you always trade fairly. |
| 486 | ** Eutimio doesn't want glory, he stays a simple guard because he wants to fight for a noble cause. |
| 487 | * WomanScorned: [[spoiler: Gwenys takes revenge on you and your smallfolk because your father didn't want to marry her.]] |
| 488 | ** [[spoiler: Liadain abandons Jorgen in the north because he doesn't want to marry her. To be fair to her, Jorgen can turn her down '''really''' rudely, but to be fair to him, he '''did''' warn her he can't marry her.]] |
| 489 | * WrittenByTheWinners: You decide how your fight with the Silent Lady should be recorded. |
| 490 | * WrongGenreSavvy: Ella gets too convinced that you have IrrationalHatred for Jorgen because of his family and they are StarCrossedLovers, [[spoiler: resulting in her heartbreak and quite a damage to your house when he turns out to be a ConMan leading her on to trick her into helping him ruin you.]] |
| 491 | ** Jon and Eutimio expect you to [[{{Gayngst}} bully them or even throw him out of home]] for their love, [[spoiler: but actually you are even too accepting, considering the [[SuccessionCrisis circumstances]]. However, you are the only accepting one at home.]] |
| 492 | *** However, he is holding onto the delusion of you being against his romance, ashamed of him and trying to force him to break up with Eutimio, even though you have given Eutimio a job and a home and defended Jon in public, making it clear to everyone else that you don't judge him for his love. |
| 493 | ** Jayne may think AdultsAreUseless, but she always has to be rescued by you when her badass actions end up bordering on LethallyStupid instead, and herself proving to be closer to a BrattyTeenageDaughter than the RebelliousPrincess she thinks she is. |
| 494 | ** Munda somehow thinks [[PleaseSpareHimMyLiege her husband's life depends on your decision,]] even though he is Lord Turner's soldier. |
| 495 | ** Silvercheek seems to overestimate your tyranny when dealing with you. |
| 496 | ** |
| 497 | --> Ask Liadain what she expected. Did she think you'd carry her off [[LampshadeHanging like a storybook prince?]] |
| 498 | ** The Essosi messenger is visibly [[ShootTheMessenger nervous about telling you]] that [[spoiler: Jon is framed for murder.]] |
| 499 | * WoundedGazelleGambit: Evalyn Chernoff's repeated schemes to avenge her son, making you out as a murderer. Especially in the storyline ''No Son Of Mine'': she isn't a JerkassWoobie who rightfully [[OutlivingOnesOffspring mourns her only child]]. She is a ManipulativeBastard who '''used''' her child's death to ruin you. |
| 500 | * YeOldeButcheredeEnglishe: Especially Gammer Wilde's, slightly Silvercheek's and Munda's speech resembles it. |
| 501 | * YouHaveToBelieveMe: Gammer Wilde when reporting her first red dream to you. |
| 502 | * YouMonster: You for Liadain if you execute Jorgen. |
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