Line #17 Trivia/BlackSabbath


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2	* CreatorBacklash:
3	** ''Forbidden'' hasn't been very liked by the band, even at the time. Then-vocalist Tony Martin said in a later interview that it was mainly a "filler album" done to get out of a deal with Creator/IRSRecords.
4	** Tony Iommi said in his book that ''Never Say Die'' is hard for him to relate to due to the album's disastrous creative process, such as Ozzy leaving and coming back, the freezing cold UsefulNotes/{{Toronto}} studio that was used, and having to come up with almost all of the songs at the studio instead of jamming and gradually coming up with stuff beforehand (this is why the album is so all over the place in terms of sound). He did however say that there was some stuff on the album he liked, but never specified what.
5	* ExecutiveMeddling: Black Sabbath is probably the most meddled with band in the history of mankind.
6	** ''Music/ParanoidAlbum'' was originally supposed to be called ''War Pigs'', but the record company was afraid of protests by supporters of UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar (which the UK ''wasn't involved in'', but officially supported at the time) and had the title changed. The original cover, a distorted picture of a man with a sword and shield jumping from behind a tree, was kept however. In his autobiography, Ozzy describes his annoyance at this:
7	--->"The only problem was the album cover, which had been done before the name change and now didn't make any sense at all. What did four pink blokes holding shields and waving swords have to do with paranoia? They were pink because that was supposed to be the colour of the war pigs. But without "War Pigs" written on the front, they just looked like gay fencers".
8	--->"They're not gay fencers, Ozzy," Bill told me. "They're ''paranoid'' gay fencers."
9	** Executives changed the title of ''Snowblind'' to ''Vol. 4'' at the last minute due to the obvious drug reference. This was not necessarily a bad thing.
10	*** Similarly, "Snowblind", the song that was originally going to be the TitleTrack, was meant to have "Cocaine!" shouted at the end of every verse; A compromise with the label was made, and the studio version ended up with a single whispered "cocaine" after the first verse. However, the band's live performances of the song have always included the "cocaine!" shouts.
11	** Iommi says their manager Patrick Meehan "grew an ego" and slapped on a "Produced by Patrick Meehan" for ''Vol. 4'' and ''Sabbath Bloody Sabbath'' despite the fact that they were self-produced.
12	** ''The Seventh Star'' was supposed to be Tony Iommi's first solo album, but the record company pressed him into putting the Black Sabbath name on it. Likewise, the ''Born Again'' album with [[Music/DeepPurple Ian Gillan]] was not intended to have been a Black Sabbath album.
13	** The ''We Sold Our Souls for Rock 'n' Roll'' compilation and the muddy, inaudible ''Live at Last'' album were released without the band's consent. The band were unaware of the former's existence until fans brought copies to autograph signings.
14	** Then there's also the case of their managers cheating them off most of their money. Sure, they got cars and fancy houses... Only to later find out they didn't actually own any of it.
15	* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: The majority of the Tony Martin era albums excluding ''The Eternal Idol'' haven’t been remastered or reissued on digital or physical platforms after their initial release. This isn’t too bad for the studio albums which go for reasonable prices ($11-$15 at best)...but then there’s the ''Cross Purposes Live'' CD release which goes for $50 to $100 on its own due to it being part of a bundle with the concert on VHS.
16	* MarketBasedTitle: The self-titled album was released in Japan as "黒い安息日" which is a literal translation of the band's name (although it can be more accurately translated as "Black Sunday").
17	* MeaningfulName: ''Sabotage'' got its name after the band was getting ripped off back and forth after the release of ''Sabbath Bloody Sabbath'', and were spending more time with their lawyers than they were recording a single damn song together.
18	* ThrowItIn: In the music video for ''No Stranger to Love'' there's a short clip of the camera going round a corner. A man is seen walking around the corner, and seems to back away as soon as he notices the camera, implying he wasn't supposed to be there.
19	** The original title of "Cardinal Sin" was "Sin, Cardinal, Sin," but a printing error left off the first word. The band decided not to bother protesting.
20	* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
21	** "Warning" was originally recorded with an incredibly long Tony Iommi solo rumoured to last over 30 minutes, which producer Rodger Bain cut out most of in order to actually fit the song on the album.
22	** "War Pigs" was originally called "Walpurgis" and was based on the occult instead of warfare. It was changed due to being too Satanic. Rough demos and bootlegs reveal the original lyrics to reference bodies being burned to ash, rats being eaten, priests being burned alive, churches being destroyed and Satan himself leading the Black Mass. "War Pigs" is one of the greatest anti-war songs ever, but a proper studio recording of "Walpurgis" could have been ''the'' greatest song about the occult.
23	** According to Tony Iommi's autobiography, Cozy Powell was originally meant to stay on for ''Dehumanizer'', but there was still bad blood between him and Dio from their time in Music/{{Rainbow}}.
24	** Dio was originally going to remain part of the band when they accepted to open the last two shows of Ozzy's first retirement tour in 1992, but he declined as he felt that this would lead to a reunion with Ozzy and drummer Bill Ward (which it did in the final show, see below) and as a result departed, resulting in [[Music/JudasPriest Rob Halford]] to briefly replace him for those two dates.
25	** [[Music/LedZeppelin Robert Plant]] and [[Music/DeepPurple David Coverdale]] were at one point considered for the lead singer spot after Dio left for the first time.
26	** In relation to the above, the 1992 reunion of the classic lineup following the final show of Ozzy's first retirement tour was going to be a long-term project but Ozzy wasn't interested at the time, so it was scrapped and Tony Martin was reinstated as lead singer instead.
27	** The band recorded an album in 2001, which would've been the first album to be recorded by the classic lineup since ''Never Say Die'' but it was never released as Ozzy was called away to finish tracks for ''Down to Earth''.
28	** After "The Devil You Know", the ''Heaven and Hell'' line-up considered doing a second album. Needless to say, [[DiedDuringProduction Dio's unfortunate death]] shattered any hope of this ever happening.
29	** Dave Walker (Savoy Brown, briefly Music/FleetwoodMac) joined the band in 1977, with Ozzy having quit. He lasted until 1978, at which point Ozzy was back in. No official recordings were made with Walker, but they appeared on a BBC radio show with him, performing "War Pigs" and an early version of what was to become "Junior's Eyes" (featuring different lyrics and vocal melodies).
30	** Music/MichaelBolton may or may not have tried to replace Ronnie James Dio in the early 80s - Tony Iommi says he remembered receiving a demo tape from Michael Bolton at that time, but Bolton has denied it (though he ''was'' originally more of a HardRock singer, and his old band Blackjack once opened for Ozzy). Geezer Butler claims Tony must have been joking.
31	** A follow up to ''13'' was considered but it was ultimately scrapped due to the band's focus on their farewell tour.
32	* WorkingTitle: Two songs on ''Headless Cross'', "Devil and Daughter" and "Call of the Wild," were renamed because they coincidentally had the same titles as two recent Ozzy Osbourne songs ("Devil's Daughter" and "Hero" respectively.)

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