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1* Two instances of this happened on ''Series/TicTacDough'':²** Host Wink Martindale left in 1985 to host his own creation, ''Series/HeadlineChasers''. Taking his place for the final season was PM Magazine's Jim Caldwell. While the show remained the same outside of a set change, Caldwell did not impress fans as host, and was often criticized for his robotic hosting and always saying that he would explain the rules of the special red-box categories "when we get to them." Although he did improve toward the end of the season (to the point that he got another hosting gig on ''Top Card'' later in the decade), the show's core fanbase had already left and were never coming back.²** Beyond a large number of unnecessary cosmetic changes and rules changes that cheapened the game, the main point of contention for the 1990-1991 revival was the hosting style of Patrick Wayne (Creator/JohnWayne's son). Wayne often came across as fake in the interviews and read the questions and RulesSpiel in a monotone, but would [[SuddenlyShouting scream]] "YOU WIN!" if a contestant won the game, or "YOU BLOCK!" if a contestant successfully blocked his/her opponent. His hosting style gained MemeticMutation in the game show community for being one of the worst hosts out there. Not helping matters was a "Divorced Couples" week, which had divorcees competing against each other for money; the final episode saw Wayne classlessly stating to all of them that "divorced couples can still have fun together, riiiiiiight?"²* And on Creator/JackBarry-Dan Enright Productions' other stalwart, ''Series/TheJokersWild'', Barry's 1984 death led to Creator/BillCullen taking over as host. Although Cullen is often regarded as one of the best game show hosts, he was clearly past his prime on ''Joker'', and was derided for hosting the game very slowly. (According to one anecdote, Jim Peck filled in for Cullen at one point, and the producers had to stop tape to provide Peck with more questions because they had gotten used to Cullen's slower style!)²* The illness and later death of Allen Ludden prompted ''[[Series/{{Password}} Password Plus]]'' to attain a new permanent host in Tom Kennedy, who kept the show going another 2 years. A subsequent revival, ''Super Password'', had Bert Convy as the host; some fans consider him a replacement Scrappy due to his chatty nature and frequent bloopers, but ''Super'' lasted five years under his tenure.²* ''Series/TheHollywoodSquares'' went through this twice.²** The first came when the producers of ''Series/MatchGame'' decided to partner with those of ''Squares'' to form ''Series/TheMatchGameHollywoodSquaresHour'' in 1983-84. The ''Squares'' portion was hosted not by original ''Squares'' host Peter Marshall (who helmed the show from 1966 to 1981 and whose short-lived ''Fantasy'' was replaced by this series), but rather to Jon Bauman, best known for being Bowser in Music/ShaNaNa (although he did not host in-character). Bauman was obviously inexperienced and stiff in the role, which was only exacerbated by original ''Match Game'' host Gene Rayburn still hosting the ''Match'' portion (and further so by the complete bastardization of the ''Hollywood Squares'' format). In addition, even ''Rayburn'' seemed to hate both Bauman and the rule changes.²** And it happened again with the 1986-88 revival, helmed by John Davidson. Many felt that the celebrity panel got too unruly, and that Davidson was unable to calm them down. Also, you'd think after being told thirty or forty times, he'd at least remember how to handle a "cat's game"...[[note]]The contestant has to agree/disagree correctly, and unlike all other squares, their opponent cannot claim the square by merit of the contestant agreeing/disagreeing incorrectly; if the latter happens, then the square is played again until someone claims it.[[/note]]²* Another game show with two examples is the ''Series/{{Pyramid}}'' franchise:²** When the show returned from a three-year hiatus in 1991, original host Creator/DickClark was busy with ''Series/TheChallengers'', so John Davidson took over there as well. As on ''Squares'', Davidson frequently tripped over the rules (many episodes have the offstage staff shouting at him when he messed up) and rarely felt as if he were in control.²** {{Downplayed|Trope}} with Donny Osmond, who hosted the 2002-04 incarnation. While certainly no Dick Clark, and mildly derided for his over-exuberance (e.g., constantly [[NoIndoorVoice screaming "OH! OH! OH! OH!"]] when someone failed to clear the [[BonusRound Winner's Circle]]), his imperfections as a host were overshadowed by the [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks many, many changes to the gameplay format]] relative to the prior versions.²* Nearly any host of ''Series/FamilyFeud'':²** After the original Richard Dawson-hosted version went off the air in 1985, creator Creator/MarkGoodson launched a revival for Creator/{{CBS}} hosted by a young comedian named Ray Combs, which ran from 1988 to 1994. [[BrokenBase Depending on who is asked]], Combs is either a straight example, an inversion, or an aversion. Those who prefer Combs generally feel that Dawson's (usually) off-camera clashes with the higher-ups outweighed the warmth and wit he (usually) showed on-camera, while the pro-Dawson camp tends to see Combs as cold and smug. [[TakeAThirdOption Still others feel]] that both brought their own styles to the table, and for what it's worth Combs isn't nearly as divisive as other hosts have been. (Combs was abruptly fired in 1994 in favor of bringing Dawson back out of retirement, but this did little to reverse the show's decline in ratings before this incarnation was canceled in 1995.)²** The revival begun in 1999 originally went to comedian Louie Anderson. He was heavily panned for his weight, gravelly monotone voice, and supposedly bored demeanor (the last of which was even mocked by ''Series/{{MADtv}}''). After he left in 2002, a pattern began where each successive host was considered an improvement at first glance, but then the cracks began to show:²** Richard Karn (2002-06) was originally given a pass by most of the fandom; despite his obvious inexperience, he at least seemed enthusiastic and solicitous toward the contestants. However, it quickly became noticeable that Karn was very poor at ad-libbing, to the point that he gained MemeticMutation for constantly [[NoIndoorVoice shouting]] the exact same {{catch phrase}}s OncePerEpisode ("[[LargeHam I'M DOUBLING THE POINTS!]]").²** John O'Hurley (2006-10) also got an initial pass, because he had previously proven himself a capable host on the 2000-2002 revival of ''Series/ToTellTheTruth'', and because ''Feud'''s Website/YouTube account uploaded clips from his first few episodes that were ''very'' well-received by fans. But some felt that he merely seemed to be going through the motions, especially in later seasons, while others found him poor at reacting to off-the-wall answers. He was also criticized for overusing his RunningGag of jolting in surprise every time the buzzer sounded in [[BonusRound Fast Money]] (to his credit, this was only done during his first season).²** Even Steve Harvey (2010-), who has brought the show its highest ratings in years, isn't immune. Harvey instantly gained fans due to his LargeHam reactions to stupid answers, which (as in the prior incarnations) were usually organic, off-the-cuff reactions. However, the producers decided to try enforcing Harvey's {{Wild Take}}s as often as possible, leading to a more sophomoric level of question-writing that baited contestants into giving lurid answers. The increasing focus on humor at the expense of gameplay has even caused some fans to look back and re-evaluate nearly every other predecessor, to the point that even Karn and Anderson have started to gain minor appreciation simply because their incarnations weren't as lewd.²* Many long-time watchers of ''Series/ThePriceIsRight'' were wondering "What were they thinking?" when the show decided to replace the retiring Bob Barker with Drew Carey as host. In Carey's defense, it would be hard for audiences to see ''anyone'' replacing Barker, since he had hosted the show for [[LongRunners an amazing 35 years]]. Those who hate Drew criticize him for trying to inject humor at inappropriate times (most notoriously, his decision to incorporate TheAnnouncer into "comedic" showcases that generally elicited negative reactions from the fanbase; to be fair, [[OldShame Drew got the message]]), fluctuating enthusiasm (he seems to act more placid when contestants are performing poorly), and [[MotorMouth talking way too fast]]. Some longtime watchers also applied this to Tom Kennedy and Doug Davidson, who hosted various syndicated versions in the 1980s and 1990s, if only simply because they weren't Bob Barker. Criticism of Carey has declined over the years, especially as he began toning down the forced humor and hosting more professionally.²** This can also apply to the announcer's booth. After Johnny Olson's 1985 death, Rod Roddy's 2003 death, and Rich Fields' 2010 departure, the show tried out various guest announcers on-air before determining the successor. The substitutes (with the possible exception of Randy West) are all victims of Replacement Scrappydom to some extent, but some of the more prominent ones include:²*** Of all people, veteran announcer Gene Wood was considered one of these when he filled in after Johnny's death. Wood was probably the most prolific game show announcer besides Olson himself, but many felt that his style was just too mellow for ''Price''.²*** Rich Jeffries only did a couple weeks after Johnny's death. Many feel that his flat, nasal voice shouldn't have been behind the mic of ''any'' game show, especially a show such as ''Price'' which requires a lot on the announcer's part.²*** Rod's increasing illness in the late 90s-early 2000s resulted in many fill-ins by Burton Richardson, best known for announcing ''The Arsenio Hall Show'' and the short-lived 1994 syndicated version of ''Price'' hosted by Doug Davidson. He is sometimes criticized for over-enunciating and drawing out his words to the point that some think he sounds like a parody of a game show announcer.²*** Another fill-in during Rod's surgery was Paul Boland, who previously did the 1998 revival of ''Series/MatchGame''. His main criticism was being [[NoIndoorVoice way too enthusiastic]]; on one episode, he announced a bottle of cough syrup with the enthusiasm that Olson or Roddy would have given to [[CatchPhrase A NEW CAR!]] He ended up announcing only one week after refusing demands from ''Price'' staff to tone it down.²*** Among those who filled in after Rod's death, Daniel Rosen was universally ''hated'' for a serious lack of enthusiasm and general sloppiness. One episode has him saying "Uh" before the OpeningNarration; one has him completely deadpan the intro to Punch-a-Bunch; and he reportedly had to do at least two retakes because no one in-studio could hear him. Fans also noted that Rosen seemed to be imitating Rod at times by wearing loud clothing and drawing out his name when signing off. He also allegedly {{astro turf}}ed fan forum Golden-Road.net with about 50 sockpuppets praising his own performance. However, he must have gotten better, as he is one of the rotating announcers for ''The Price Is Right Live!'', a live production which puts on mock games of ''Price'' in casinos.²*** Despite the many other fill-ins after Rod's death, most had at least some supporters. However, Don Bishop got some hatred from fans for outright refusing to go off-script, while (according to one fan forum) ''Price'' staff nearly kicked [[Series/WheelOfFortune Jim Thornton]] off after only one episode, possibly due to his voice cracking.²*** Rich Fields himself started to become this over time, in part because he was picked over fan favorite Randy West, and in part because many felt that Rich did not have a good voice — particularly in later years, when he became increasingly [[NoIndoorVoice loud and grating]].²*** After Rich was fired, six more substitutes rotated until George Gray (former host of ''[[Series/TheGongShow Extreme Gong]]'' and the syndicated ''Series/TheWeakestLink'') became the show's fourth permanent announcer. Among the substitutes, Steve White and Brad Sherwood were hated for their fake enthusiasm (and White even more so for [[TheNicknamer giving Drew silly nicknames]]), while former ''Series/ShopTilYouDrop'' host JD Roberto was seen as SoOkayItsAverage but lost points for insulting a contestant (although he later got to announce the 2012 revival of ''Series/{{Pyramid}}''). While there was some pushback over Gray getting the job (his first few episodes were shaky; some fans thought that David H. Lawrence XVII or Jeff B. Davis had better voices; and some felt that Gray only got the job because he was friends with executive producer Mike Richards), he has ultimately averted this trope and most fans feel that he is a worthwhile successor.²** Bart Eskander, the show's director from 2000-2009 (and the show's third after Marc Breslow and Creator/PaulAlter), was hated by most of the fanbase for his oversimplified and stiff style. It’s a good wonder he lasted about nine years.²** Mike Richards (the show’s executive producer from 2009-2019) got flak for replacing Roger Dobkowitz as series producer in Season 37 due to Creator/FremantleMedia's decision to put the show in a new direction, and replacing Syd Vinnedge as Executive Producer the following season. Bart Eskander's replacement, Rich [=DiPirro=], once went so far as to tell him he was ruining this show.²* Brad Sherwood was previously hated for his fake enthusiasm and excessive joking around when he hosted a revival of ''Series/TheDatingGame'' in TheNineties. As a result, he was replaced by veteran game show host Chuck Woolery, who fared ''far'' better.²* When ''Series/CardSharks'' was revived in 1986-88, it took two forms: a Creator/{{CBS}} version with Bob Eubanks hosting, and a syndicated version with Bill Rafferty, both of whom had markedly different styles from original host Jim Perry. While Rafferty averted this, Eubanks was seen as either a straight example or another aversion. Eubanks was criticized for bringing the same sleazy hosting style he had mastered on ''Series/TheNewlywedGame'' to a show that didn't really call for it. Others didn't mind his demeanor.²* Pat Bullard had this happen twice: first, when he took over the 1998 revival of ''Series/LoveConnection'', and three years later when he helmed another revival of ''Series/CardSharks''. On both shows, he was derided for being wooden, bland, and unfunny. This ''especially'' stood out on a more CarriedByTheHost format like ''Love Connection'', where he clearly had none of original host Chuck Woolery's charisma, humor, or interviewing skills. The latter was also greatly derided for an ugly set and completely unnecessary (and game-breaking) rule changes.²* ''Series/WheelOfFortune'' had this happen a few times:²** Subverted with Rolf Benirschke, who took over from the daytime version after Pat stepped down to host ''Series/ThePatSajakShow''. While Rolf was clearly awkward and inexperienced (including one instance where he admitted on-air that he didn't know how to handle a tie game, and another where a ''contestant'' corrected him... during a Teen Week), most people agree that he at least had a friendly demeanor, he did show considerable improvement in the six months that he hosted, and that the decline of the daytime show had nothing to do with him.²** After [[TheAnnouncer announcer]] Jack Clark died of bone cancer in summer 1988, he was replaced by Los Angeles deejay M.G. Kelly, who was constantly derided for sounding way too mellow. Pat also pointed out in an interview that Kelly frequently had to redo his copy in post because he kept making mistakes (and even then, a few mistakes still made it to air anyway). Kelly left the show in February 1989 when Clark's predecessor, Charlie O'Donnell, returned.²** A similar hatred came for those who filled in after Charlie's death in November 2010. John Cramer, Joe Cipriano, and Rich Fields were generally hated for their own lack of enthusiasm (surprising, given Fields' derision for the exact opposite problem on ''Series/ThePriceIsRight''), as was extremely obscure voiceover artist Lora Cain.[[note]](''Series/{{Jeopardy}}'' announcer Johnny Gilbert also did three weeks during this timespan, but it's clear that he was never considered for the job -- besides his commitments to ''Jeopardy!'', he is also significantly older.)[[/note]] This put the fanbase almost unanimously in favor of Jim Thornton, who got the job in summer 2011 and has been very well-received.²** Towards the end of Season 12 in 1995, Harry Friedman replaced Nancy Jones as producer. While the show's updates were consistent under Jones' tenure, [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks Friedman made many]] [[ComplexityAddiction unpopular changes]] [[WereStillRelevantDammit to keep it fresh]] [[SeasonalRot starting in Season 14]]. Among his "contributions" were a single wheel template in use since 1996, Toss-Up puzzles and the retirement of Creator/MervGriffin's music packages in 2000, Prize Puzzles in 2003, and a $1,000,000 cash prize in 2008. In 2013, it was confirmed that he approves every puzzle that makes it onto the show and fans call him out for approving such low-quality puzzles, the Prize Puzzle in particular. It’s a good wonder he lasted over twenty years on the show, as fans consider his hiring a major senior moment on Griffin’s part. The announcement that he would retire after its 37th season was applauded by many, and Mike Richards was announced as Friedman’s replacement.²** A variant involving gameplay elements. The Free Spin token had been associated with ''Wheel'' since the pilots, offering an ExtraTurn to a contestant to use at their leisure. Then in Fall 2009, the Free Spin was replaced by the Free Play wedge which [[ButThouMust forces the Extra Turn the moment it is landed on]]. Contestants can also use the Free Play to call a free vowel (which could not be done with the Free Spin) and fans have noticed how often the wedge is [[ComplacentGamingSyndrome exploited as such]].²** Also, there's the Million Dollar Wedge which replaced the $10,000-Wedge. Fans who weren't happy with the replacement didn't like such an iconic wedge being replaced while others just hated the idea of incorporating such a large prize onto the show. Also, the inclusion of the Million Dollar Wedge for the first three rounds increases the likelihood of hitting a Bankrupt whereas the $10,000-Wedge only appeared in one round of the game (except in its first two seasons where it stayed on the Wheel after Round 3 until the end of the game or if it claimed).²* When ''Series/LetsMakeADeal'' was revived in 1990, original host/co-producer Monty Hall felt that he was too old to host anymore, so he chose Bob Hilton to host. Hilton, who had far more experience as an announcer than as a host, was so poorly received by the fanbase that Hall actually guest-hosted the last few weeks to try and save a sinking ship. His original intent was merely to fill in until he could find a suitable host to carry Season 2, but the show got canceled instead.²* Although she is not without her fans (and has won two Daytime Emmys for "Outstanding Game Show Host"), Meredith Viera is sometimes seen as this on ''Series/WhoWantsToBeAMillionaire'' in comparison to original host Regis Philbin. (The switch in hosts coincided with the show moving from Creator/{{ABC}} to syndication.) Detractors of Meredith find her style too low-key and nicey-nice, particularly in comparison to the more exuberant Regis.²** Meredith's successors Cedric the Entertainer and Terry Crews both received lukewarm-at-best reception from fans, and did nothing to revive the show's continuously fading popularity, with both only lasting a year. Cedric was criticized for ill-advised attempts to bring comedy into the show, and for frequently wearing fedoras in-studio, while Crews was regarded as having NoIndoorVoice. Chris Harrison couldn't save the show from being cancelled in 2019, but he was better received by fans (particularly those who enjoyed Meredith's low-key style).²** On the Dutch version, Jeroen van der Boom was this for Robert ten Brink, and as a result, when the show was revived in 2019, ten Brink returned.²* A fair number of UK game show ''Hole in the Wall'' fans see Anton Du Beke as this after he replaced Dale Winton (of Supermarket Sweep fame) as presenter.²* An inversion. Scott Beach was the first announcer on ''Series/TheNewlywedGame'', but was kicked out supposedly because he would sing war protest songs to the audience during commercial breaks. He was replaced by Johnny Jacobs, who was anything but a Scrappy — he held his ''Newlywed'' role alone for 14 years and later went on to become a prolific announcer (besides many other shows by ''Newlywed'' creator Creator/ChuckBarris, he also handled ''Series/TheJokersWild'' and ''Series/TicTacDough'') until his 1980 death.²** Late in the 1980s revival of ''The Newlywed Game'', Paul Rodriguez took over from the show's longtime host, Bob Eubanks (who had hosted multiple versions dating back to the 60s). Rodriguez was originally seen as overbearing and too far-removed from Bob's "loveable sleazeball" shtick, but eventually grew into the role, thus making him an aversion.²** Carnie Wilson, who hosted the 2000s revival, was seen as this by many, although many who have been to tapings said that she came off better in-studio and was more a victim of post-production.²* In 1989, Bert Convy stepped down as host of ''Series/WinLoseOrDraw'' to host and produce ''3rd Degree'', with ''Series/EntertainmentTonight'' correspondent Robb Weller replacing him. Weller was generally disliked for his stiff hosting style and tripping over the rules, and his version lasted only one season. Meanwhile, from 1989-92, Creator/DisneyChannel had a ReTool for the younger audience called ''Teen Win, Lose or Draw''; this version was hosted by obscure actor Marc Price, who failed to impress for similar reasons.²* ''Series/DoubleDare1986'':²** Subverted when Harvey left before the 1992 season of ''Family Double Dare''. His replacement, Doc Holliday, may have not the chemistry Harvey had with Marc Summers, but fans thought he brought his own style and made it work.²** Then came ''Double Dare 2000'' which had Jason Harris replacing Marc along with Tiffany Phelps as the announcer. Jason's hosting style dragged the game play down and he often fumbled over the physical challenge descriptions. Tiffany wasn't much better, as she was overbearingly shrill when introducing Jason.²* Oddly enough, many considered Creator/AlexTrebek this when initially tapped to host the revived ''Series/{{Jeopardy}}'' in 1984. Many viewers found him cold and condescending compared to the original series' host, Art Fleming, who declined the chance to host the new version. This criticism faded over time though, as Trebek [[GrowingTheBeard grew into the role]] and memories of Fleming's versions faded (due mainly to [[KeepCirculatingTheTapes most of them being wiped]]).²* ''Series/WildAndCrazyKids'': In Season 2, Annette Chavez was replaced by Jessica Gaynes. Jessica is either a straight example or an inversion. Her detractors saw her as too annoying compared to the low-key but friendly style of Annette. Her fans claim she had the right amount of energy compared to Annette, who at times didn't seem to fit the crazy mood of the show. ²* The game show ''Series/ChainReaction'' had this happen several times. The 1986-91 revival, taped in Canada for Creator/USANetwork, was originally hosted by Canadian singer and television host Blake Emmons. Emmons was hated for being extremely hyperactive and constantly forgetting the rules. Due to taping conflicts, he was replaced a few months into the run with the more experienced Geoff Edwards (who had previously filled in on the original 1980-81 run). Then came the 2006 revival for Creator/{{GSN}}, which went to Dylan Lane, who was hated for his smarmy and douchey personality (exacerbated by the much better hosting of Tim Vincent on the pilot).²* For Season 2 of ''Series/BeatTheGeeks'', Blaine Capatch replaced J. Keith van Straaten whom Creator/ComedyCentral thought wasn't geeky enough. Capatch drew hatred for being too [[LargeHam hammy]] and needlessly condescending to the contestants, to the point where he'd scream "GET OUT!" to eliminated players at least once a show.²** Both replacement Music Geeks to Andy Zax. Particular ire was aimed at Michael Farmer, who repeatedly showed himself less knowledgeable about music than the contestants yet maintained the same level of snarky superiority that the other geeks did.²* Another ''Creator/{{Nickelodeon}}'' Game Show example: Ben Lyons and Australian celebrity Asha Kuerten replaced Mike O'Malley and Moira "Mo" Quirk, respectively, in ''[[Series/NickelodeonGuts My Family's Got GUTS]].'' While Asha was praised by some fans for equalling Moira, fans still preferred Mike and Moira/Mo though they had since left Nickelodeon by that time.²* Game show fans generally agree that the worst part about ''Gameshow Marathon'' and what made it so forgettable was Ricki Lake hosting. Unlike the games' other emcees, Lake hosted with the same plastic demeanor as she would hosting a talk show. In addition to showing very little charisma, she also seemed constantly lost on what she had to do. Similar to John Davidson on his shows, she had a habit of letting the celebrities take over.²----

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