Line #18 PlayingWith/TheLostLenore


1	'''Basic Trope''': A PosthumousCharacter was a LoveInterest to one of the still living characters and their death still affects their loved one in the present.
2	* '''Straight''': Throughout the series, Edgar is shown to still be haunted over and grieving for the late Eliza, who was his lover prior to her death.
3	* '''Exaggerated''':
4	** Edgar is still ''very'' fixated on her memory, to the point that it borders on obsession. Additionally, this disturbing fixation means that Edgar may not be entirely emotionally stable.
5	*** Further expanding on this example, Edgar's grief over Eliza may be the ''only'' notable personality trait of his... [[{{Flanderization}} or it becomes this over the course of the series]].
6	** Literally the ''only'' thing we learn about Eliza is that [[PosthumousCharacter she's dead]] and [[SatelliteLoveInterest was Edgar's lover]].
7	* '''Downplayed''':
8	** Edgar is broken up over Eliza's death, but he manages to soon move on and continue with his life quite early on.
9	** Eliza's death and its effect on Edgar, while occasionally mentioned and shown, ''isn't'' an integral part of the plot.
10	* '''Justified''':
11	** TheFirstCutIsTheDeepest and [[FirstLove Eliza's]] death ''was'' that first cut.
12	** Edgar DesperatelyCravesAffection, and Eliza was the one who gave him that affection. She also may as well have been the ''only'' one who did
13	** Eliza died not too long before she and Edgar were to get married. So now, Edgar's only way of knowing what a life with her must've been like is just imagining it and of course, that would entail thinking about her ''a lot''.
14	*** Or alternatively, Eliza died not long after she accepted Edgar's LoveConfession. So in this case, Edgar would be left only imagining what a ''relationship'' with her would've been like.
15	** [[ILetGwenStacyDie Edgar feels that he's responsible for her death]], so there's an extra reason for it to still haunt him
16	*** Or in a darker take of this example, Edgar ''is'' responsible for her death.
17	** Edgar's attraction to Eliza is actually limerence, and his "relationship" is [[LovingAShadow nothing more than a fantasy]] [[StalkerWithACrush built upon obsession]] and intense desire to be with Eliza, even if it means ignoring anyone who might actually make him happy.
18	* '''Inverted''':
19	** Eliza was Edgar's ArchEnemy and even in the present day, [[MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning her death has become a huge factor in Edgar's story.]] Edgar's constant thoughts about and bitterness over her death is because ''[[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou he]]'' [[TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou didn't get to be the one to kill her]].
20	** DisposableWoman.
21	* '''Subverted''':
22	** Edgar was actually ''never'' Eliza's lover, [[SelfProclaimedLoveInterest even though he makes himself out to be as such]]. In truth, he was her StalkerWithACrush who in the present, still can't let go of his obsession over her.
23	** Sure, Edgar ''says'' he loved her and still does, but this love is for [[LovingAShadow an]] ''[[LovingAShadow idealised]]'' [[LovingAShadow version of her]]. He never actually saw her for who she really was.
24	** Eliza gets BackFromTheDead.
25	** Eliza's NotQuiteDead.
26	** [[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated Everyone just]] ''[[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated thinks]]'' [[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated that Eliza died, she actually didn't.]] She even reunites with Edgar.
27	** Edgar reminisces about his former lover [[BaitAndSwitch and it looks like it'll go this route...but Eliza was actually]] TheOneThatGotAway. She didn't die, but her relationship with Edgar did.
28	** Edgar and Eliza were siblings rather than lovers. They did not have BrotherSisterIncest, as their love was familial rather than romantic. They were still very close, and Edgar has a hard time coming to terms with her death.
29	* '''Double Subverted''':
30	** (related to first example) Edgar and Eliza ''really were'' lovers, but they broke up. Edgar just couldn't let go of Eliza, so it turned into an obsession which still carries on after her death.
31	** (related to second example) Edgar's love for Eliza was much more genuine when she was alive. But over the years after her death, [[UnreliableNarrator Edgar's]] [[LoveMakesYouCrazy broken heartedness]] [[FlashbackFail has clouded his memories of her,]] causing him to construct this idealised version of her.
32	** (related to third example)...but dies ''again''
33	** (related to fourth example)...but does eventually ''really'' die
34	** (related to fifth example)...only to ''actually'' die
35	** (related to sixth example)...but she ''does'' die within the series.
36	* '''Parodied''': Edgar talks about Eliza as if she's dead...even though she ''clearly isn't'' or is even standing ''right next to him.''
37	* '''Zig Zagged''': Edgar and Eliza were ArchEnemies ''[[DatingCatwoman and]]'' [[DatingCatwoman lovers]]
38	* '''Averted''':
39	** The series has NoHuggingNoKissing
40	** There aren't any [[PosthumousCharacter Posthumous Characters]]
41	** No one dies within the series' run
42	* '''Discussed''':???
43	* '''Conversed''':???
44	* '''Exploited''':
45	** The BigBad learns or knows about Eliza, so he sends a FemmeFatale who [[IdenticalStranger strongly resembles her]] to lure Edgar into a HoneyTrap.
46	** Edgar battles a ShapeShifter, who [[VoluntaryShapeshifting shapeshifts into Eliza]] in order to either catch Edgar off guard or make him hold back.
47	** It's rather easy to manipulate Edgar by claiming that Eliza either wouldn't want him to do what he's doing or vice versa.
48	*** Or he's easy to manipulate by promising him vengeance for Eliza's death.
49	* '''Implied''':
50	** Edgar talks and thinks about his lover Eliza a lot, but we're never explicitly told whether or not she's still alive. [[TheGhost We don't even get to see her.]]
51	** PostHumousCharacter Eliza had a huge part in Edgar's life and her death still affects Edgar in the present, but it's [[DidTheyOrDidntThey unclear as to what]] ''[[DidTheyOrDidntThey exactly]]'' [[DidTheyOrDidntThey their relationship was.]] The fact that the way people (or even Edgar himself) talks about the connection they had can be interpreted as either platonic or romantic [[ImpliedLoveInterest makes it even more unclear.]]
52	* '''Deconstructed:''' Edgar's inability to move on from Eliza greatly hurts his emotional stability and even his relationships with those who are still alive.
53	* Edgar's ''relationship'' with Eliza is dead, but Eliza herself is still alive. Eliza is Edgar's limerent object and he's grown to despise her, doing everything he can to make her feel terrible about herself because the only things he has left of her is obsessive hatred and obsession. Even when Edgar tries to move on with other people, Eliza will always be there in the dark of his mind to torment him.
54	* '''Reconstructed''': But eventually, CharacterDevelopment kicks in and Edgar manages to let go of the past and learns to focus on those who are still alive.
55	* '''Played For Laughs''':
56	** The series has NegativeContinuity, so Eliza [[TheyKilledKennyAgain keeps dying]] and then having [[UnexplainedRecovery UnexplainedRecoveries]] the next episode. And for every death of hers, Edgar laments about her, then come her next UnexplainedRecovery, he's back to being his usual happy go lucky self.
57	** Edgar is an UnreliableNarrator so exactly ''how'' Eliza died [[MultipleChoicePast keeps changing...]] [[SerialEscalation with each supposed death that Edgar gives getting more ridiculous than the last.]]
58	** Edgar misses Eliza so much that he [[BlackComedy has]] [[BlackComedyRape sex]] [[CrossingTheLineTwice with]] [[ILoveTheDead her corpse.]]
59	** Eliza's death contains some GallowsHumor
60	* '''Played For Drama''': Edgar becomes depressed from his grief over Eliza.
61	----
62	Back to TheLostLenore, because it's not easy to move on.

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