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1	'''Basic Trope''': A parental figure forbids their ward from doing something they like because it interferes with what the parental figure thinks will help their ward succeed.
2	* '''Straight''': Alice loves to play the piano, but her father Bob forbids her from playing because it takes time away from her warrior training.
3	* '''Exaggerated''':
4	** Alice is [[MadArtist obsessed with playing the piano]] to the point of self harm, and Bob wants nothing more than for Alice to be a BloodKnight.
5	** Alice wants to play the piano really bad. Bob can't have that, so Bob kills off every piano teacher in the town and blows up the local musical instrument stores ensuring that Alice cannot possibly play the piano.
6	* '''Downplayed''': Bob buys a piano for Alice and signs her up for lessons, but seems skeptical that she could pursue it professionally. He pressures her to prioritize her warrior training.
7	* '''Justified''':
8	** Alice is young and her ideas for her future are likely foolish or unlikely to succeed. Bob just wants Alice to have a fallback set of skills.
9	** Bob [[AbusiveParents despises Alice]] and is [[ManipulativeBastard deliberately trying to crush her spirit]]. He demands she [[SnipeHunt meet an impossible goal]] while [[ControlFreak shaming everything she does that's unrelated]].
10	** Bob comes from a culture where AsskickingLeadsToLeadership, and he believes teaching Alice to fight will help gain respect for the both of them more so than if Alice learns playing the piano.
11	** Bob wants something to show off to other parents, and he'd rather show off that his daughter is a skilled warrior than an accomplished musician.
12	** After years, Alice still plays the piano like a beginner, but Bob notices she can effortlessly defeat bullies at school who pick on her. Bob just wants Alice to play to her strengths.
13	** Bob is a ControlFreak and wants absolute control over his daughter's activities. Bob planned out for Alice to be a warrior and will not let Alice do anything else.
14	** Bob was taught by his own parent(s)/guardian(s) to be an accomplished fighter. He wants Alice to [[FollowInMyFootsteps follow in her footsteps]] because fighting is the only thing Bob knows how to teach, and Bob feels ashamed if his daughter pursues a path in which Bob cannot help.
15	** Bob's brother died in a plane crash before Alice was born. When Bob finds out Alice wants to become a pilot, his old trauma starts flooding back in and he gets afraid the same will happen to Alice.
16	** Pianos are [[PianoDrop surprisingly dangerous]], and Bob is instilling in Alice proper sword training so she has the preparedness to eventually become a qualified pianist.
17	** Alice took up the piano as a FlashInThePanFad and Bob knows she will ditch it within a month, tops, while he has to deal with the big expenses of lessons and getting a piano and the eventual headache of her next fad's expenses. He really wants Alice to make her damned mind about what she wishes to do with her life, "dream" or not, and hopefully something ''[[TheScrooge cheap]]''.
18	** Bob is lazy and decides to impede Alice's dreams because the other option is to do some -- ''any'' -- effort to support her.
19	* '''Inverted''':
20	** Bob has to badger Alice into doing things other than taking up the family business or following in Bob's footsteps.
21	** Alice thinks that her dad shouldn't pursue a degree or get a job once all his children grow up.
22	** Bob badgers and relentlessly tries to manipulate Alice... into being a world-famous science-fiction writer and astronaut. Alice actually wants to be one.
23	** [[WackyParentSeriousChild Bob is the whimsical dream-seeker. Alice is the one who needs to holler at him]] to get his head out of the damn clouds and be a man by society's standards.
24	** Bob is actually the only one supportive and even encourages Alice to pursue her passion. It's ''everyone else'' that tells her otherwise.
25	* '''Gender-Inverted''': Andrew loves to play the piano, but his mother Betty forbids him from playing because it takes time away from his warrior training.
26	* '''Subverted''': Bob is initially reticent, but when he realizes this is Alice's passion and not just a passing fancy, he agrees to support her.
27	* '''Double Subverted''': ... but secretly sabotages all these attempts to drive Alice into willingly doing what Bob wants.
28	* '''Parodied''':
29	** Alice fights tooth and nail to play the piano ... and she ''sucks''. Bob wants Alice to be a warrior because he thinks she'd be successful at it ... and she sucks at that ''too!''
30	** Bob finds a way to kill two birds with one stone: Lock Alice and her piano teacher up in a room, give both of them weapons, and [[ChildrenForcedToKill force Alice to kill her piano teacher]].
31	* '''Zig-Zagged''': Bob disapproves of Alice's hobbies, but it's only teasing. Alice prefers her hobbies to what her dad wants her to do, only to realize he doesn't like those hobbies and is doing it solely to rebel.
32	* '''Averted''': Alice doesn't have hobbies that distract her from her true calling, and Bob wouldn't mind if he did because they help round out a person.
33	* '''Enforced''': This is a ComingOfAgeStory and there has to be intergenerational strife to overcome.
34	* '''Lampshaded''': "Alice, I realize I sound just like my own father when I say this..."
35	* '''Invoked''':
36	** Alice wants to make Bob angry, so she takes up hobbies that she knows will annoy him.
37	** Bob wants Alice to become passionate about something, so he tries to forbid her hobbies to help her find the one she truly loves.
38	* '''Exploited''': Chloe, Alice's jealous younger sister, tells Bob rumors about Alice not training in favor of hobbies.
39	* '''Defied''': Bob knows Alice will resent the strict training regiment he has her under, so he allows Alice opportunities to try new things.
40	* '''Discussed''': "Bob, forcing Alice to follow a path she don't want, ''and'' denying her choice, won't end well."
41	* '''Conversed''': "You'd think obsessive control freaks in these stories would realize that crushing the dreams of their children in favor of their own just makes it likelier they'll rebel."
42	* '''Deconstructed''': The strain tears Alice and Bob apart and leads to both leading unhappy lives.
43	* '''Plotted a Good Waste''': Usually this plot is used to make Alice sympathetic and ends with Bob reconsidering her opinion. It's instead used to make Bob sympathetic by showcasing how he better knows Alice's strengths and what it would take for her to succeed, while Alice is oblivious and disrespectful.
44	* '''Played for Laughs''':
45	** Alice is awful at her hobbies, and Bob's idea of a good career goal for Alice would make her dirt-poor and miserable.
46	** Bob throws a tantrum any time someone tells him that Alice is wonderful at playing the piano.
47	** Alice plays the piano on national broadcast. Bob runs screaming onto the stage, destroys the piano, and drags Alice away, kicking and screaming. The audience applauds, thinking it was AllPartOfTheShow.
48	* '''Played for Drama''':
49	** Alice becomes a world-class musician, playing to sold-out crowds at major concert halls. Bob, still bitter that Alice didn't go into a fighting career, gets surrounded by reporters, journalists, bloggers, and fans requesting Bob to talk about his daughter's rise to fame. Bob, unable to deal with constant reminders that his daughter is a successful ''musician'' and not a warrior and knowing he will never sway Alice back to fighting, [[DrivenToSuicide commits suicide]] with a note reading, "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_(feral_child) The world will never understand.]]"
50	** The steps Bob takes to keep Alice on the path to becoming a warrior are flat-out [[AbusiveParents child abuse]]. When they lead him getting arrested and tossed into prison for life, he's either distraught that society decided to stand behind Alice and her "stupid dream" instead of his efforts at doing his job as a parent; or he's proud that part of the denouement was Alice reaching her RageBreakingPoint and smashing his nose in just the way he taught her, crowing that she may still have a future as a warrior even as everybody looks at him like he's gone insane.
51	** Bob does this to relive his dreams by proxy, which were ironically taken from him by a father doing the exact same thing.
52	* '''Played For Horror''': Tonight's episode of our ''Series/CriminalMinds'' rip-off revolves around a ThemeSerialKiller who targets people in the community who have achieved great success in things like being writers or chefs... and TheReveal is that it's Bob trying to create a boogeyman to [[ScareEmStraight scare Alice]] into becoming a surgeon.
53	* '''Implied''': Alice sarcastically thanks her dad for her success in whatever she's currently doing.
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55	[[FullNameUltimatum Alice Marie Troperson]], how many times do I have to tell you, go back to FantasyForbiddingFather! You'll never amount to anything if you hang around with riff-raff like this page.

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