Line #38 Narm/TheAmazingSpiderMan2


1	!!The film
2	[[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/amazing_spider_man_2_dane_dehaan_green_goblin_053.jpg]]
3	[[caption-width-right:350:In hindsight, maybe the [[Film/SpiderMan1 Power Rangers cosplay]] wasn't all that bad.]]
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5	* [[spoiler: Gwen's death can be considered a very effective TearJerker, depending on the audience. Unfortunately, literally ''just'' before it happened, the movie has Gwen make a forceful speech to Peter about how she insists on helping him and putting herself in danger and he's not going to stop her. To remember this and that she was snatched up and murdered by the Green Goblin ''immediately'' afterward suddenly makes the whole thing seem like a badly-done black comedy.]]
6	** The above scene is made worse by the fact that [[spoiler: when Gwen falls to her death, the web Spider-Man throws to catch her [[FutileHandReach takes the shape]] of [[RuleOfSymbolism a human hand]].]]
7	** And you wanna know what makes it ''even worse?'' When [[spoiler: Gwen hits the ground, her head makes a cracking sound arguably ''so'' cartoonish you could swear it could come out of [[WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes Looney Tunes]]]].
8	*** And after [[spoiler: Gwen's head hits the ground, there's no blood or gore splattering all over the floor, but a tiny bit of blood coming out of her nose, as if only her brain got damaged and not her [[HardHead head]]]].
9	** [[spoiler:It's a small detail, but seeing the incredibly fast speed at which Peter drops to the ground after Gwen's landing and then immediately hearing the dainty thud he makes on impact, as if he had simply jumped up in the air and not been falling at near-terminal velocity, is jarring.]]
10	** When Peter [[spoiler: tries to [[PleaseWakeUp wake her up to no avail]], he doesn't sound horrified when he sees Gwen, but only worried and desperate, as if he didn't hear ''the gigantic cartoonish head crack that Gwen's body made when it the ground''. And even worse, when he gets worried and says "Hey", he then ''immediately'' softens his voice when he says "Breathe". And when Peter starts to break down upon realizing that she's already gone, his [[InelegantBlubbering ugly cry face]] can make it much, much more laughable and unconvincing than devastating to watch.]]
11	* Gwen trying to end her and Peter's relationship is supposed to be a heartwrenching moment, but it's much harder to take seriously when the best way Gwen can put across the concept is her going, "I break up with you, Peter. ''I break up with you.''" Not "I'm break''ing'' up with you," just "I break up with you."
12	* The chanting in the song "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HflLBECNdWA My Enemy]]" can get a little ridiculous, mainly since one of the lines being repeated is "He hates on me". This becomes almost ten times as narmy when you notice, like [[WebVideo/YourMovieSucksDotOrg Adam Johnston]] did in his [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJUk8ZHckxo review]], that the line sounds hilariously close to "He [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros hates-a]] me."
13	** The line "fragility" also sounds pretty similar to "virginity", as Johnston also pointed out.
14	** The line "Something slipping" sounds like "something, something", as if there were supposed to be other lyrics there, but Pharrell Williams forgot them.
15	* The villains. Rhino is an [[LargeHam intentional]] [[NarmCharm case]], but both Electro and the Green Goblin are supposed to be serious villains. Turns out it's quite difficult to take a guy that looks like [[Film/BatmanAndRobin Batman & Robin's Mr. Freeze]] (and occasionally like Dr. Manhattan from ''Film/{{Watchmen}}'' crossed with [[Franchise/StarWars Emperor Palpatine]]) or a guy whose getup resembles a cross betweem Creator/WarwickDavis' ''Film/{{Leprechaun}}'' and Cyber-[[WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead Beavis]] very seriously, though admittedly, they do have their intimidating moments as well.
16	* Electro's first time in Ravencroft -- he's tortured by a German scientist named ''Kafka'' who puts on [[SoundtrackDissonance classical music]] before the experiment. More subtle portrayals have existed in a 60s James Bond movie. If that sounds silly already, wait until you hear [[ClicheStorm the dialogue]].
17	* In the beginning of the film, Max Dillon is so stereotypically nerdy that he actually becomes a ''more'' subtle character once he turns into [[PsychoElectro a glowing super-villain that shoots lightning bolts]].
18	* When Max is getting turned into Electro, there's a big close-up of the electricity somehow fixing the gap in his front teeth, as if getting superpowers made him less of a stereotypical nerd.
19	* While [[Film/SpiderManTrilogy the original trilogy]] had Uncle Ben appear posthumously and actually have a role in Peter's [[CharacterDevelopment development]], this movie does so with Creator/DenisLeary as George Stacy... just standing there and staring. Or sitting in a squad car... and staring. This is the source of the "always watching" {{meme\|ticMutation}}.
20	* Harry Osborn's {{Wangst}}y behavior during his attempts to appear sympathetic ("''Everybody wants my money!''"), combined with the fact that he's sporting a haircut akin to that of Peter's infamous emo persona from ''Film/SpiderMan3'', make him come off as overly dramatic for some.
21	-->'''Harry:''' AUGH! YOU'RE A FRAUD, ''SPIDER-MAN!!!''
22	** Note that he says that line in a raspy tone, adding another layer of narm to it. '''"YOU'RE A ''FFFRRAAWWD'', SPIDER-MAN!"'''
23	** Sure, you'd need a big dose of MST3KMantra in order to take Spider-Man seriously, but any shot where a fully-costumed Spider-Man is sitting down and talking to Harry like a doctor telling his patient that he has cancer is one of the silliest visuals in the entire franchise.
24	---> '''Harry:''' [[InsaneTrollLogic I'm already dying. Your blood can't make me die more.]]
25	* Dane [=DeHaan=]'s Harry, still sporting that emo haircut and backed by a melodramatic soundtrack, goes [[LargeHam full ham]] again when he's trying to convince Electro to team up with him, and it is glorious. As an added bonus, there are some unintentional HoYay undertones to their conversation. However, it is also [[NarmCharm oddly tragic]] in a way.
26	-->'''Electro:''' Give me one reason why I should I trust you.\
27	'''Harry:''' ''Because I need you!''\
28	'''Electro:''' You need me?\
29	'''Harry:''' Yes, I need you. You are my ''only'' chance that I have at surviving.\
30	'''Electro:''' You need me?\
31	'''Harry:''' Yes, I need you! I need you, please! PLEASE, I need you! PLEASE! I know what it's like to be thrown away! PLEASE, Max! I need you! I NEED YOU! I NEED YOU! I NEED YOU!
32	** Taking Harry seriously as a TragicVillain is also made much more difficult with how he acts like a stereotypical bad guy when he and Electro confront [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Donald Menken]].
33	** "Once you shut down the grid, Spider-Man will come for you, and I want you to make him '''''BLEED'''''!"
34	** Harry's PunctuatedForEmphasis rant at Peter fails because of a weird form of AccentUponTheWrongSyllable - he shouts "You. Betrayed. ME!" and "When you told me Spider-Man said no... you meant You. Said. NO!" as if it comes as a surprise that it's him who's been betrayed and that Spider-Man said "no" of all things.
35	* As mentioned above, [[http://www.geekbomb.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/amazing-spider-man-2-trailer-electro.jpg Electro's character design]], like Green Goblin and the Lizard in the last film, looks neither cool nor menacing and edges more towards goofy with his new looks, [[http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/theamazingspiderman2/images/thumbnail_18285.jpg especially during the]] [[https://www.awn.com/sites/default/files/image/featured/1016350-spi-unveils-amazing-spider-man-2-making-video.jpg Times Square sequence]].
36	%%* Electro randomly yells "It's my birthday, NOW IT'S TIME FOR ME TO LIGHT MY CANDLES!" before shooting at Spidey. [[WebVideo/HonestTrailers It wasn't his birthday either]].
37	* All of Times Square just staring at the Electro and Spider-Man fight like they're at a baseball game. This also happened in both ''Film/SpiderMan3'' and ''Film/SupermanII'', where the citizens just cheer for the heroes next to Ground Zero ''while the fight is taking place.'' It's clear that these citizens are just asking to be killed, and in other superhero films, you'd properly be seeing the citizens fleeing in ''terror'' rather than standing there and watching. It's even justified in ''Superman II'' somewhat by the majority of the battle taking place in the sky.
38	** There are even a few people ''booing'' at Electro during the Times Square fight.
39	** The cheering itself seems hilariously out of place. The danger surrounding these people is just too close for them to be ''standing around'' like they are. While it should be obvious that Electro is a real threat, ''none of the people'' are reacting like he's a real threat other than the police. Spider-Man himself doesn't even question Max's transformation or try to figure out his predicament. He just rolls with it like it's any other battle. ''Meanwhile,'' Gwen is holding onto a metal rail while all of this is going on. The sheer amount of dissonance in this scene is mind-boggling.
40	*** It's not until Electro tries to kill them all by trashing Times Square that the New Yorkers seem to realize getting too close to a fight between two superpowered people is a bad idea and start to panic and flee (still not Gwen, though).
41	%%* Max Dillon, pre-Electro, imagining a scenario in which he shows Spider-Man his birthday cake.
42	%%-->'''Max:''' [[AccidentalInnuendo Do you like that, Spidey?]]\
43	%%'''Max:''' ''[as Spider-Man]'' I like it a lot, Max.

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