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| 4 | ->''"The best way to criticize a movie is to make another movie."'' |
| 5 | -->-- '''Creator/JeanLucGodard''', paraphrased by Creator/RogerEbert |
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| 7 | Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike can be fun. [[AccentuateTheNegative Picking apart works]] and trying to find and explain (and [[{{MST}} make fun of]]) some of the things that went wrong can be deeply satisfying, and at the same time strangely therapeutic. Of course, [[SeriousBusiness some people take some of these criticisms to heart]], and won't hesitate to [[FlameWar chew you out]] if you suggest that something may be wrong with their personal SacredCow. That person will usually rebut your criticism with something like, "Oh, yeah? [[TitleDrop Let's see YOU do better!]]" |
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| 9 | There is a common misconception among fans and people having worked in a particular field that non-experts are not qualified to comment on their work. While it helps to have some background information or experience, it is certainly not required. It doesn't take a carpenter to recognize a poorly-made table, after all.[[labelnote:note]]If a table spontaneously falls apart, things probably didn't go according to procedure.[[/labelnote]] Besides, films are usually made to entertain audiences, so of course it is acceptable for people to have opinions over which movies fail to accomplish this. And even if it wasn't made for your demographic, [[PeripheryHatedom then that does not exempt it from criticism, either]]. Targets for audience mockery are especially vulnerable to this phenomenon, as is the person with a SmallNameBigEgo. Let's all remember what Baldassere Castiglione said in ''The Courtier'': |
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| 11 | ->''And if [the author] does not attain to such a perfection that his writings should merit great praise, let him take care to keep them under cover so that others will not [[{{Narm}} laugh at him]], and let him show them only to a friend who can be trusted...'' |
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| 13 | Just imagine if this were applied to all forms of criticism: "You think I don't do a good job raising my own children, and you think their grandparents should handle them? How can you even say that when ''you've'' never been a parent?" "You think this cake tastes bad and is undercooked? How can you even say that when ''you've'' never been a chef?" "You can't criticize that politician if you yourself have never been in politics!" Clearly, you need not be good at something yourself in order to be able to tell whether someone else is good or not. This objection is rarely (if ever) raised to deflect ''positive'' criticism, but very few people are particularly inclined to reject positive criticism or praise in the first place, regardless of the source. |
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| 15 | [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools On the other hand]], while all opinions may be ''valid'', this does not mean that all opinions are equally informed or useful. Media criticism is usually a mix of opinion over what makes a good work and objective facts about the text presented. This means that getting the details wrong can undermine the quality of a review. For instance, somebody might mistakenly assume a trope is being played straight when the opposite might be true. This legitimately affects the credibility of the reviewer and the review, since it suggests that they simply weren't paying full attention, or even that they may be a KnowNothingKnowItAll. |
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| 17 | Furthermore, it is often much easier to sit back and criticise someone else's creation from the sidelines than it is to create something yourself, and it is not rare for criticism to form even without any rudimentary understanding of the difficulties inherent in producing whatever is being criticised. While anyone who's read a book or seen a movie is instantly capable of determining whether they like it or not, it's not always as easy to understand the challenges and difficulties that exist in creating a work of art without trying it for yourself. While having attempted to, say, write a novel doesn't guarantee that you will enjoy every novel you ever read, it does mean that you will have some better understanding of how novels are constructed (and how hard they can be to construct) than someone who has not, which can in turn inform your review. |
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| 19 | It should also be remembered that in many cases creative works are, at least in part, the creator's personal expression and thus something they're likely to be very close to and emotional about. Said works are also something the creator has usually devoted a lot of time, energy, resources, and their life in general into producing. As such, a lot of time when a creator tries to deploy this trope, it is often an ''emotional'' reaction rather than a strictly logical one. Whether the criticism is valid or not (''especially'' if valid in some cases), it can be disheartening for a creator to have their hard work casually and bluntly dismissed by someone with no experience of what it took to produce it, thus making this response perhaps understandable, if not exactly admirable. At the very least, informed criticism is usually aware of when genuine effort has (or has not) been made in trying to achieve something and is willing to acknowledge that effort, even if it didn't pay off, rather than dismissing the entire thing out of hand. |
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| 21 | This argument legitimately comes into play when someone actually ''is'' coming out and saying they could do better without producing any evidence to that effect; in such cases, it's not unreasonable to ask them to put their money where their mouth is and pony up the goods. |
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| 23 | In some circles, this is erroneously called "Ebert's Law", named after the famous film critic Creator/RogerEbert. This is not an actual trope about his version of Ebert's Law, which is "It's not what a movie's about, but [[ShapedLikeItself how it's about it]]." |
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| 25 | 'Those who can, do; those who can't, criticize,' is also a common variant. A form of circumstantial AdHominem. Compare with DontLikeDontRead (when this trope is applied to FanFic), and HireTheCritic (which sometimes happens in order to test their challenge). Also compare CorrectionBait and HePannedItNowHeSucks. An OlderThanRadio example is UsefulNotes/BenjaminDisraeli's remark that the ranks of critics are drawn from those who have failed at literature and the arts. (Disraeli earned his living as a novelist.) |
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| 27 | A specific case where the trope can be applied with impunity is when the critic claims 'Everyone can do better' or something to the tune, directly claiming a group they could belong in indeed can do better. |
| 28 | |
| 29 | The most feared response to this statement is '[[GoneHorriblyRight You wanna bet]]?' |
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| 31 | The idea that you need some expertise in a subject matter in order to adequately judge and criticize it is actually substantially true; scientific studies have found that the ability to do some task correlates directly with your ability to comment on, criticize, and judge the performance of others usefully. This is known as the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect Dunning-Kruger Effect]]; people who are bad at performing a task not only are incapable of judging how well others do on it but are incapable of judging how good they themselves are at the task at hand and will frequently wildly overestimate their own ability not only to do the task at hand but to judge the capabilities of others. |
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| 33 | Not to be confused with Captain Pike's DareToBeBadass issued to the young Jim Kirk. |
| 34 | ---- |
| 35 | !Examples: |
| 36 | [[foldercontrol]] |
| 37 | |
| 38 | !!RealLife Examples: |
| 39 | |
| 40 | [[folder:Anime & Manga]] |
| 41 | * ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': In 2010, Creator/TiteKubo [[Website/{{Twitter}} tweeted]] this positive, encouraging response to criticism about his work: |
| 42 | -->If you have the talent to draw something more interesting than ''Bleach'', you should become a manga artist right away. If it's interesting, it will definitely be more successful than ''Bleach''. |
| 43 | [[/folder]] |
| 44 | |
| 45 | [[folder:Comedy]] |
| 46 | * Creator/MitchHedberg once handled a heckler by [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfuhSIaFB3g inviting the guy to come on stage and tell a joke]]. |
| 47 | [[/folder]] |
| 48 | |
| 49 | [[folder:Comic Books]] |
| 50 | * After ''ComicBook/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDW'' responded to criticisms regarding the quality of the art in some issues with this, the artist [[http://pencilsponyforge.tumblr.com/ Pencils]] accepted their challenge and [[https://derpibooru.org/1333295 blew them clean out of the water.]] IDW took it in good stride, being impressed enough that they actually [[HireTheCritic hired him]], initially to do some alternate covers and eventually to [[https://itunes.apple.com/ie/book/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic-69/id1420689488?mt=11 draw full issues.]] Administrivia/TropesAreTools, indeed! |
| 51 | * Sérgio Peixoto Silva, the editor-in-chief of the infamous Brazilian comic adaptation of ''Franchise/MegaMan'', ''ComicBook/NovasAventurasDeMegaMan'', bashed fans that asked the people behind the comic to write stories that are more in line with the video games that the comic was based on, telling them to write their own comics instead of throwing accusations. |
| 52 | [[/folder]] |
| 53 | |
| 54 | [[folder:Comic Strips]] |
| 55 | * Lynn Johnston of ''ComicStrip/ForBetterOrForWorse'' fame used to maintain a mailbag feature on her website. After letters complaining about the quality of the strip were run, it was not uncommon for others to write in saying that if the former group thought it was so bad, they should come up with their own comic strip instead. |
| 56 | * This is the go-to tactic of choice for defenders of ''ComicStrip/FunkyWinkerbean''. Most, if not all of them state verbatim that only another nationally syndicated cartoonist has a right to criticize Tom Batiuk. And the times a pro cartoonist ''has'' criticized him, they state that they're just jealous/too inexperienced/must hate cancer victims. |
| 57 | [[/folder]] |
| 58 | |
| 59 | [[folder:Fan Works]] |
| 60 | * There is actually a type of FanFiction (FixFic) where people actually do try to do better than the original work. ''Film/TheMatrix'' sequels and the ''Franchise/StarWars'' prequels are popular subjects for this, as is any portion of ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''. |
| 61 | * The author of ''Fanfic/HuntingTheUnicorn'' practically states that "this is how [[Series/{{Glee}} Blaine's]] characterization ''could'' have been, if the writers weren't busy pandering to the LowestCommonDenominator." |
| 62 | * The author of ''Fanfic/PrisonIslandBreak'' and quite a lot of other DarkFic apparently once got told this for giving a bad review. So... |
| 63 | --> '''Breech Loader:''' I once got told "If you don't like it, do better." So, I did. How else am I meant to get a decent story about Scourge the Hedgehog with clinical depression? |
| 64 | * The ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''[=/=]''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' FusionFic ''[[https://www.fimfiction.net/story/413863/gloaming Gloaming]]'' came about because the author had read ''Twilight'' out of BileFascination, been disappointed in the storytelling, and pulled this on himself. It follows the same general plotline of ''Twilight'' and keeps the basic characterizations, reworked to be the way he would've written it. |
| 65 | * ''Fanfic/LeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemenTempestRewrite'': To quote the author at the beginning: |
| 66 | -->I finished reading LXG Volume 6: The Tempest a few weeks ago, and I was immensely disappointed. The story was shit, the characters were flat, and the whole thing was just a real crappy way to end a saga. So, I have decided to [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} write my own ending. With blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the blackjack!]] Starting with the revelation of the Antichrist's identity, I'm putting my own spin on how LXG should have ended out, and hopefully do it with the same creative storytelling spirit that the series started out with. |
| 67 | [[/folder]] |
| 68 | |
| 69 | [[folder:Films -- Live-Action]] |
| 70 | * Creator/StanleyKubrick says he was inspired to become a filmmaker after watching art films at the local museum and telling himself that he couldn't possibly do any worse. |
| 71 | * The best-known example of the above law that actually involves Creator/RogerEbert comes from a [[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050811/REVIEWS/50725001/1023 review]] of ''Film/DeuceBigalow: European Gigolo''. Actor Rob Schneider took offense to an article by Patrick Goldstein of the ''Los Angeles Times'', pointing out that several major studios turned down the chance to finance the year's Best Picture nominees while financing a sequel to a crude sex comedy. After reading it, he took out a full-page ad in the ''Hollywood Reporter'' and called Goldstein a "hack" because he had never won any awards for film critics. In Ebert's review of the film, he taunted Schneider, pointing out that he himself actually ''had'' won a Pulitzer, and thus was fully qualified to tell Schneider that he thought the movie sucked. The story took an unexpected turn after several back-and-forth barbs in the press. After one of Ebert's cancer surgeries, Schneider sent Ebert flowers. Ebert conceded that while Schneider may make bad movies, he's a good man. Aww. |
| 72 | ** Roger Ebert himself was an InvertedTrope of this; he's a revered, Pulitzer Prize-winning film critic, but [[Film/BeyondTheValleyOfTheDolls his actual filmography]] [[SoBadItsGood is something else]]. |
| 73 | * According to [[http://ineptculturalcritic.wordpress.com/2010/06/11/a-glossary-of-pseudo-scientific-and-derogatory-terms/ this blog]] Creator/MarkRuffalo invoked this trope when his directorial debut was panned at the Sundance Film Festival. |
| 74 | * Creator/TimBurton's 1994 kinda-biopic ''Film/EdWood'' was interpreted by certain critics as an implied declaration of this trope, with Burton defending [[Creator/EdWood the man who is often considered the worst filmmaker in history]] by showing that he may not have been any good, but at least he tried, and had a good time doing so -- whereas most people who mock Ed Wood have never even attempted to make a movie. |
| 75 | * Many ''Franchise/StarWars'' fans were disappointed with ''Film/ThePhantomMenace''. Michael J. Nichols was just the one who bothered to cut and edit a new, more streamlined version of the film on his home computer. |
| 76 | * A downplayed example; WebVideo/ChrisStuckmann gave a middle-of-the-line score ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', and then had a go at rewriting the final confrontation between the titular characters in 20 minutes, posting the end result to his Twitter. Although he later stated that he saw his rewrite as more of a technical exercise than a dead-serious improvement of the dialogue, the rewrite was nevertheless widely derided online, with the dialogue spawning memes of its own. |
| 77 | [[/folder]] |
| 78 | |
| 79 | [[folder:Literature]] |
| 80 | * Creator/ChuckPalahniuk once [[http://dir.salon.com/story/books/letters/2003/08/26/chuck/index.html responded]] to a review like this. |
| 81 | * The Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse author Karen Traviss generally has this reaction whenever readers point out some of the inherent silliness of her work, such as [[SciFiWritersHaveNoSenseOfScale her ridiculously low]] estimate[[note]][[AllThereInTheManual Which first appeared in the]] ''Film/AttackOfTheClones'' Novelization.[[/note]] of the number of clone troopers in the Grand Army of the Republic. |
| 82 | * ''Franchise/DoctorWhoExpandedUniverse'' novelist Keith Topping, responding to critics on the ''Series/DoctorWho'' UsefulNotes/{{Usenet}} groups: |
| 83 | -->Just one tiny question? What's are the titles of either of you guy's novels again? Just so, you know, I can specifically look out for them in the shops and use the stunning quality writing therein to put right all the numerous things I'm so obviously doing wrong. |
| 84 | * {{Inverted|Trope}} by John Updike, both a prolific author and a prolific critic, who was fond of saying that all writers should write criticism once in a while just to remind themselves of how hard it is. |
| 85 | * Creator/RayBradbury harnessed the power of metaphor to...make this very point: |
| 86 | -->"If Mormons do not like my plays, let them write their own. If the Irish hate my Dublin stories, let them rent typewriters. If teachers and grammar school editors find my jawbreaker sentences shatter their mushmilk teeth, let them eat stale cake dunked in weak tea of their own ungodly manufacture." |
| 87 | * According to legend, the career of James Fenimore Cooper -- and thus, all of American fictional literature -- got its start when Cooper's wife made him read a wretched European novel to her. Reportedly, James was so disgusted by the novel that he claimed he could write a better one himself. And he did: ''Literature/TheLastOfTheMohicans'', which is still considered one of the greatest adventure novels of all time. (This is made all the more awesome if you know that Cooper lived in New York City all his life and never even visited the upstate forests he wrote about.) |
| 88 | ** Creator/EdgarRiceBurroughs said the same thing: he wasn't making a very good living in the various jobs he had, was reading some penny novels and thought to himself that he could write crap at least that good and make money too. Creations such as ''Literature/{{Tarzan}}'' and ''Literature/JohnCarterOfMars'' proved he underestimated how good he could be. |
| 89 | ** Quite the same thing happened to Pierre Pairault, a French dentist, whose wife once was reading a Sci-Fi story. She found it so bad that she told her husband: "Even you would do better!" Pairault gave it a try, then another. From 1956 to 1959, he wrote (under the name of Creator/StefanWul) eleven novels, most of which are now considered classics of French Sci-Fi literature. Two of them were [[TheFilmOfTheBook adapted to the big screen]] (''Animation/FantasticPlanet'' and ''WesternAnimation/TimeMasters''), and [[ComicBookAdaptation a series of comics]] covering all his work is currently being published. |
| 90 | * Criticisms of ''Literature/TheTwilightSaga'' will often be met with, 'well, let's see ''you'' write a bestseller.' It turns out that [[MovingTheGoalposts they won't actually care if you've written anything or not]], as when [[Creator/StephenKing an author who met this criterion]] criticized ''Twilight'', fans were quick to declare that [[YoureJustJealous he was just jealous]] because he hadn't written anything popular lately. [[Literature/UnderTheDome Even]] [[Literature/ElevenTwentyTwoSixtyThree though]] [[Literature/TheWindThroughTheKeyhole he]] [[Literature/{{Joyland}} has]]. |
| 91 | * A classic example comes from French literature. Famous critic Saint-Beuve wrote a book called ''Volupté'', and enemy Creator/HonoreDeBalzac just rewrote it. It became ''Le Lys dans la vallée'', an all-time classic. |
| 92 | * Creator/IsaacAsimov relates a tale in his autobiography of having a problem in a college English class. He arranged a meeting with the professor, who then told him "Your problem is, you can't write." Asimov pulled out the check he'd just received for his latest short story, stating "I just got this for my writing," and left. |
| 93 | * The ''Literature/DoctrineAndCovenants'', then the "Book of Commandments", attracted some criticism about the language use when it was being compiled. The response was [[https://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/67.5-8?lang=eng#4 section 67]], which posed this challenge: |
| 94 | --> [...] if there be any among you that shall make one like unto it, then ye are justified in saying that ye do not know that they are true; |
| 95 | ** One of the critics, William E. [=McLellin=], took up the challenge [[https://www.lds.org/manual/doctrine-and-covenants-student-manual/section-60-68/section-67-i-give-you-a-testimony-of-the-truth-of-these-commandments?lang=eng and failed]]. |
| 96 | * The book ''Once More, With Feeling'' by Victoria Coren and Charlie Skelton chronicles the exploits of the two authors who decide, after a job reviewing porn movies for an erotic magazine, that they could make a much better skin-flick than the ones they're forced to review. Much to their surprise, it turns out to be much harder to make decent porn than they'd previously suspected. |
| 97 | * This is how ''Literature/TheDeedOfPaksenarrion'' came to be. Creator/ElizabethMoon were tired of all shitty LawfulStupid [[ThePaladin paladins]] she had encountered while playing TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons and decided to tell a story about what a Paladin should be and act like, and how such a character would fare in a grim dark world. |
| 98 | * Creator/JamesPHogan's coworkers bet him he couldn't get a novel published after he complained about the ending of ''Film/TwoThousandOneASpaceOdyssey'' one time too many. |
| 99 | [[/folder]] |
| 100 | |
| 101 | [[folder:Live-Action TV]] |
| 102 | * It's almost a given that during any ''Series/AmericanIdol'' audition phase, at least one particularly awful auditioner will say this to the judges, which is funny when you consider that Music/PaulaAbdul is a Grammy Award-winner[[note]]and, per Simon Cowell, is a "''brilliant'' spotter of talent"[[/note]] and that Randy Jackson and Simon Cowell have both won awards for managing music. In other words, those two know more about what makes popular music than popular musicians do. |
| 103 | * The Swedish show ''Let's Dance'' (the Swedish adaptation of ''Series/StrictlyComeDancing''). When a turned-down contestant said this, the show lampshaded it by cutting to a montage, explaining the judges' past experience in the field, showing that they are in fact qualified for the position. |
| 104 | * Known to ''Series/TheDailyShow'' fans as the "Tucker Carlson defense", after Jon Stewart criticized ''Crossfire'' for being bad journalism, and Carlson complained that Jon's show [[NewsParody wasn't proper journalism either]]. |
| 105 | -->'''Stewart:''' You're on CNN! The show that leads into me is [[Series/CrankYankers puppets making prank phone calls]]! What is ''wrong'' with you? |
| 106 | * ''Series/TheColbertReport'': |
| 107 | ** Wynton Marsalis on ''Stephen Colbert's Hiphopketball: A Jazzebration'': "You should be a music critic." |
| 108 | ** December 8, 2014: During the show's penultimate week, Creator/StephenColbert filmed the show in Washington, D.C., when President UsefulNotes/BarackObama walked onstage and decides that he could do as good a job as Colbert. He takes over "The Word", which he retitles "The Decree", and proceeds to read Colbert's lines word for word, including a little SelfDeprecation on the president's part. Apparently, Obama's the kind of guy who likes to talk about himself in the third-person. |
| 109 | * When the Series/{{Mythbusters}} declared the myth about Archimedes destroying ships by reflecting sunlight busted, many complained that the results weren't satisfying enough, and were biased by the conditions and poor execution. Their response was inviting anyone who felt they could do better to try setting fire to a ship in a special episode. They all failed. |
| 110 | * ''Series/GoodEats'' is another example of someone taking this trope to heart. Alton Brown was dissatisfied with the quality of cooking shows on television since they merely tell the viewer '''what''' to do but not '''why'''. His wife effectively replied, "Then why not make your own cooking show?" And of course, he did. |
| 111 | * Mr. Rogers invoked this on himself; the first time he saw television, particularly children's television, he was disappointed in the content, feeling it was too silly. He started ''Series/MisterRogersNeighborhood'' because he thought he could do better and make something more meaningful. |
| 112 | [[/folder]] |
| 113 | |
| 114 | [[folder:Music]] |
| 115 | * Music/AvengedSevenfold's song, "Critical Acclaim" is more or less this trope as an angry, ridiculous screed against people who criticize ''[[EagleLand The USA]]'' because "they've never contributed a fucking thing to the country they love to criticize." Apparently, the songwriter believes that criticizing the country or the war, etc. (not the soldiers) when you've never served your country [[PatrioticFervor insults those who have]]. What's even funnier is that the song calls these critics self-righteous and hypocritical without a hint of irony. |
| 116 | -->So how does it feel to know that someone's kid in the heart of America\ |
| 117 | Has blood on their hands\ |
| 118 | Fighting to defend your rights\ |
| 119 | So you can maintain the lifestyle that insults his family's existence\ |
| 120 | Well, where I'm from we have [[FlippingTheBird a special salute]] we aim high in the air\ |
| 121 | Towards all those pompous assholes who spend their days pointing fingers\ |
| 122 | All the way from the east to the west\ |
| 123 | We've got this high society looking down on this very foundation\ |
| 124 | Constantly reminding us that our actions are the cause of all their problems\ |
| 125 | Pointing the fingers in every direction\ |
| 126 | Blaming their own nation for who wins elections\ |
| 127 | They've never contributed a fucking thing to the country they love to criticize |
| 128 | ** Also, keep in mind that M. Shadows said that A7x wasn't going to force its religious or political views on anyone. |
| 129 | * An urban legend says that a band once played a poor set due to their less than stellar guitarist. The band is heckled and the guitarist tells one heckler, "Let's see you do better." The heckler (usually mentioned as being Music/EricClapton) takes the guitar and blows the crowd away with his playing. |
| 130 | * Keith Moon got to be the drummer for Music/TheWho like this. One night, Keith came up to them between sets and said he could play better than their drummer. They invited him to prove it - and he did, smashing the drummer's drum kit to pieces in the process. |
| 131 | * In response to criticism for his bombastic overture "Wellington's Victory", Music/LudwigVanBeethoven retorted, "What I shit is better than anything you could ever think up!" Considering he was Beethoven, that's probably {{justified|Trope}}. |
| 132 | * Vilhelm Peterson-Berger was a notoriously savage music critic for a major Stockholm newspaper in the early 20th century. After savaging an opening night, the composer challenged him to do better. Peterson-Berger... well, let's just say he did. He is now considered one of the great Swedish composers. |
| 133 | * In 1962, Music/TheBeatles had just released their first single, "Love Me Do." Their producer, George Martin wanted their next single to be a cover of "How Do You Do It?", but the boys weren't happy with their take on it and declined its release. Martin told them "if you can come up with a better song, do it." They recorded their original tune "Please Please Me." After which, Martin said: |
| 134 | -->"[[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Boys, you've got your first number one single.]]" |
| 135 | * While ''Music/LinkinPark'''s "When They Come for Me" is more of a BoastfulRap in its composition, its primary theme embraces this trope. Case in point would be the sole line in the chorus: |
| 136 | -->''Try to catch up, [[PrecisionFStrike motherfucker!]]'' |
| 137 | * Music/NeilYoung does this in "Ambulance Blues": |
| 138 | -->''So all you critics sit alone,\ |
| 139 | You're no better than me, for what you've shown.'' |
| 140 | * The Music/JonathanCoulton song "Code Monkey", describing the title character's meeting with his boss: |
| 141 | -->Rob say Code Monkey very dilligent, but his output stink\ |
| 142 | His code not "functional" or "elegant"; what do Code Monkey think?\ |
| 143 | Code Monkey think maybe manager want to write god damned login page himself\ |
| 144 | Code Monkey not say it out loud, Code Monkey not crazy, just proud |
| 145 | [[/folder]] |
| 146 | |
| 147 | [[folder:Myths & Religion]] |
| 148 | * [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenge_of_the_Quran Several times]] in Literature/TheQuran, God challenges disbelievers to produce a book or even a single chapter similar to the Qur'an -a task said to be impossible. |
| 149 | * Section 67 of the Literature/DoctrineAndCovenants makes a similar challenge. |
| 150 | [[/folder]] |
| 151 | |
| 152 | [[folder:Politics]] |
| 153 | * Statesmen or generals use this defense in their memoirs, all the way back to ancient times. |
| 154 | * Parliamentary systems such as the UK run on this. If the government of the day doesn't have the confidence of Parliament, they resign and the head of state has the option of either asking another member of Parliament to form a new government (if they can find sufficient votes in government) or call a general election to elect a new Parliament. Macaulay, in his History of England, notes that this practice forces the Parliamentary opposition to be more serious about the business of government, compared with earlier when ministers continued in position without having the support of a majority of Parliament. An interesting variant of this occurred when UsefulNotes/JohnMajor challenged his critics within the Conservative Party to "put up or shut up" -- he resigned from the leadership of his party, though not from the office of prime minister, and contested a snap election for party leader. He won, but in the event that he'd been defeated, his victorious opponent would most likely have become prime minister and served as such for the remainder of that parliamentary term. |
| 155 | * Political pundits and other commentators sometimes end up running for office themselves after making a name for themselves criticizing the existing political leaders. More generally, people frequently run for office because they genuinely think they ''can'' do a better job running the city, school board, etc. than whoever's doing it right now. |
| 156 | * This is essentially how U.S. Senators Al Franken (D-Minnesota) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Massachusetts) got elected. They became vocal and well-known opponents of what the U.S. government (mostly its Republicans, but neither shied away from calling out Democrats, either) was doing. America's collective response was essentially this trope; ''their'' response was 'Okay!'[[note]]Warren, at least, had been a key architect of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, financial lawyer, and professor of contract law before her election, and has since demonstrated that she does have the ability to come up with proposed alternatives (although getting her fellow Congresspeople to ''agree'' to them is another matter entirely). Franken was a ''comedian''.[[/note]] |
| 157 | ** Franken's exit from politics arguably demonstrates exactly how this trope can go wrong. |
| 158 | * This has been the basis of Democrats' defence of the Affordable Care Act: Want Obamacare repealed and replaced? Replaced with what? During the first year after Obama left office, there were several attempts to replace the bill, all of which have failed due to not offering any effective replacement option for the millions of Americans who depended on the ACA for health insurance. It's noteable that unlike most instances of this trope, in this case the people who were being told to offer something better actually ''were'' people who were in positions that it was reasonable to expect them to do so, namely Republican lawmakers. |
| 159 | [[/folder]] |
| 160 | |
| 161 | [[folder:Pro Wrestling]] |
| 162 | * This is sometimes thrown out to {{Smar|tMark}}ks by wrestlers. Mainly because some smarks, though they know about the wrestling business, do not understand the large scope of things be it the business aspect of things or the physical aspects of things in the ring. |
| 163 | [[/folder]] |
| 164 | |
| 165 | [[folder:Sports]] |
| 166 | * Losing sports team coaches shut down critics by attacking their lack of professional sports experience as either an athlete or a coach. It became comical when former Detroit Lions head coach Rod Marinelli said this during his team's winless season in 2008. |
| 167 | ** A weird version of this is when ''other people'' (usually fans) criticized the criticizers. As so when an athlete or a team made a bad play or had a bad game and were criticized. There will '''always''' be someone to defend said athlete/team by saying 'Let's see how you do when (insert challenge of the sport here).' |
| 168 | * This famously backfired on Howard Wilkinson when he was manager of Sunderland during their disastrous 2002/03 campaign. During the press conference after one match, he accused the assembled journalists of lacking the credentials to criticize him and pointedly asked how many England caps they had. "Forty-three, actually, Howard," came the reply -- turned out one of the journalists was 1966 World Cup winner Jimmy Armfield. |
| 169 | * During a pre-season friendly against Oxford City, West Ham assistant manager (soon to be manager) Harry Redknapp took this trope a step further than most by confronting a {{Football Hooligan|s}} who'd been hurling abuse at one of his players, asking him whether he could do a better job, and then ''substituting him into the match to prove it''. In fairness to the fan, he put his money where his mouth was -- he scored! |
| 170 | * After Florida Marlins manager Fredi Gonzalez yanked star shortstop Hanley Ramirez out of a game for not hustling and then benched him, Ramirez attacked Gonzalez in the press, saying that since Gonzalez had never played in the major leagues, he had no right to criticize him. Never mind the fact that calling out a player's lack of effort is a manager's ''job'', regardless of said manager's personal major league experience. When Marlins executives Andre Dawson and Tony Perez -- both Hall of Fame players -- took Ramirez to task as well, he finally got the message and apologized to his teammates. |
| 171 | ** Another thing that makes Ramirez's remarks especially ridiculous is that many if not most of the best major league managers have/had little or no major league playing experience. |
| 172 | * Controversial NFL star James Harrison savaged Roger Goodell for this over Harrison's increasingly stiff penalties for late hits, helmet shots, and other violent play that the league was cracking down on. Harrison claimed that Goodell couldn't accurate assess these penalties having never played the sport at any high level himself. |
| 173 | * In 2019, Chicago Bears kicker Cody Parkey missed a game-winning 43-yard field goal [[labelnote:*]]after hitting the goalpost and the crossbar, leading to the nickname "double-doink"[[/labelnote]], knocking them out of the playoffs. The following week local beermaker Goose Island Brewing Co. held a promotional in front of the brewery, inviting fans to try themselves to win various prizes. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR7pcRVm_Hc The results]] were [[HilarityEnsues amusing]]. [[spoiler:And unsuccessful. Not one person made the kick.]] |
| 174 | [[/folder]] |
| 175 | |
| 176 | [[folder:Video Games]] |
| 177 | * While reviewing [[TheProblemWithLicensedGames the official PC game]] based on ''Film/DirtyDancing'', [[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment The Spoony One]] pre-emptively mentioned that [[InformedAbility he already has]], in fact, coded games that are better than the minigames in the game ''as homework for his software engineering course''. |
| 178 | * The ''VideoGame/{{MUGEN}}'' fandom's got this ''bad''. In response to criticism of a character on any ''M.U.G.E.N'' forum (usually criticism by WildTengu), at least one noob is likely to say 'You can't judge, you haven't made a character!' It would be a good argument, if not for the fact that if someone who's had no character-creation experience can note when something's ''very'' wrong, then the argument becomes redundant. |
| 179 | * Games that let you [[GameMod mod]] them are also a target for this trope. There are always some people who simply need to tweak a few things before their custom content is considered good or they just need some guidance in the right direction to make something work. However, if the criticism against the creator's work is strong and the creator does not react too kindly to it, they may dismiss all criticism by saying that they put a lot of hard work into it and they don't see them doing any better. This reaction can also occur within the fans of the creator's work(s) since they may see any form of criticism as a sign of bashing. |
| 180 | * This was reportedly how Creator/SteveMeretzky got his job at Creator/{{Infocom}}. He sent them a letter criticizing their work, and they asked if he could do better. He responded by writing ''VideoGame/{{Planetfall}}''. |
| 181 | * The ''Franchise/TouhouProject'' franchise exists because ZUN didn't like existing shooter games. |
| 182 | ** In a meta example, the fandom also likes doing this with ZUN's art, as he has good designs but poor execution. ZUN himself encourages this, and it's pretty much the main reason ''Touhou'' got so popular in the first place. |
| 183 | ** Something along the same lines can be said for the ''Touhou'' music as well. While the original scores are in no means at all bad, the fandom is very, very fond of remixing the music and making their own versions of it. It has gotten to the point where, during a Q&A panel, when one person aked ZUN why he hasn't formed a band to play ''Touhou'' music live with yet, ZUN said that he doesn't need to do that: His fans do it for him. |
| 184 | %%* According to WordOfGod, this is how ''VideoGame/IWannaBeTheGuy'' was born. |
| 185 | * A variant where this was invoked by the critic himself: after the infamously horrible ''VideoGame/{{Doom}}'' [[GameMod WAD]] called [[http://www.doomworld.com/11years/others.php "Doom: Rampage Edition"]] (involving the player taking on a role of a [[BreakoutMookCharacter Baron of Hell]]) was released, one of the players commented that "he could pull a better wad out of [his] ass". A week later, he did indeed release a WAD based on the same concept, which gathered warm reviews. To rub it in: the name of this WAD? "[[http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/index.php?id=12713 A Better WAD I Pulled Out Of My Ass]]". |
| 186 | * [[WordOfGod A developer]] for ''VideoGame/MechWarrior Online'' replied with "Let's see you make a better game" to a thread on the ''Online'' forums criticizing the gameplay. The response by the user was "[[ScrewedByTheLawyers We did until you shut us down]]", referring to ''[=MechWarrior=] Living Legends'', a free mod for ''[[VideoGame/{{Crysis}} Crysis Warhead]]'' which was killed off through legal means by ''Online'' [[note]] and (formerly) [[FanSequel officially licensed]]. ''Living Legends'''s release predates ''Online'' by two years. The ''Living Legends'' franchise license was effectively [[ScrewedByTheLawyers yanked]] by the ''Online'' developers, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen ending the mod's further development]].[[/note]] |
| 187 | * A HilariousInHindsight moment for ''VideoGame/Left4Dead2''. The fan base complained for a long time about the game's glitches and other nuances, claiming Valve hired morons to playtest the game. While Valve never responded to the criticism, they decided to let the fan base own up to their claims of doing better by letting them beta test the ''Left 4 Dead'' maps that they were porting into the sequel. |
| 188 | * During a question-and-answer session, a professional competitive tournament player by the tag of "juice.Doom" of the ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' series decided to rather snarkily (but jokingly) inform Creator/MasahiroSakurai that "many fans" felt there were "balance issues" with the games. He then [[SmallNameBigEgo challenged Sakurai to a match where if he won he could help balance the newest one]]. Sakurai's response (via translator) was, "Have you ever made a game before?" |
| 189 | * ''VideoGame/Battlezone1980'': {{Enforced|Trope}}. The volcano within the game originally was not supposed to explode, but Ed Rotberg (the creator of the game) was pestered by his coworker Owen Rubin to make it active. After Ed suggested rhetorically that Owen write the code himself, it was found lying on Ed's desk the next day. |
| 190 | * In response to the ''Sonic Genesis'' PortingDisaster of ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog1'' to the Platform/GameBoyAdvance, modder Simon "Stealth" Thomley ported ''Sonic'' to the GBA (adding the Spin Dash and Tails and Knuckles as playable characters) to prove it could be done properly. |
| 191 | [[/folder]] |
| 192 | |
| 193 | [[folder:Web Original]] |
| 194 | * Website/{{Newgrounds}} used to be the king of this trope. It seemed that unless you had a movie that was rated in the top 10, you had absolutely no right to criticize any movies. There were even movies made making fun of those people who left comments or even ''rated'' movies down. But most of these were made about the types of people who made comments like 'Your movie stinks' or 'You used sprites, therefore you sucked' or attacked the author without good reason. Sometimes, even pointing out a bug in a Flash game got the same thing. |
| 195 | %%* ''Website/TheOnion'', in its [[NewsParody usual style]], applied [[http://www.theonion.com/content/news/well_you_try_to_reconstruct_iraq this trope in an unexpected way to fantastic results.]] |
| 196 | * ''WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall'' was flooded with these kinds of comments after Linkara introduced "Miller Time," a series of reviews of Creator/FrankMiller's worst comics. He responded that he's only been at this for a couple years, while Miller's been working for three decades. |
| 197 | ** During the ''Wolverine: Adamantium Rage'' review, Spoony (who was watching in the background) mocks Linkara's decision to use cheat codes during a particularly difficult part of the game. Linkara's response is to step away from the keyboard and let Spoony try. After a half-dozen failures and an abortive suicide attempt, Spoony lets Linkara cheat. |
| 198 | ** Inverted, during an episode of ''WebVideo/HistoryOfPowerRangers'', Linkara notes that Lord Zedd's evil Rangers were just the [[{{Mook}} Puttys]] painted in the Rangers' colors, and ''he'' could make a better costume than that. A few months later, he unveiled a [[Series/PowerRangersZeo White Zeo Ranger suit]] in the style of his normal Linkara attire. |
| 199 | ** Also note that Linkara ''has'' [[Webcomic/{{Lightbringer}} written his own comic.]] Of course, [[http://badwebcomicswiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/The_Lightbringer to some,]] this doesn't help. |
| 200 | * Yahtzee of ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' gets this a lot, despite that he actually has programmed [[VideoGame/ChzoMythos some freeware PC games]] before his rambling gaming reviews gained him the following he has today. |
| 201 | ** Having also done some minor webcomics criticism, Yahtzee may also have received these from webcomic supporters. Yahtzee, however, always remarks that [[OldShame his old webcomic efforts]] were hardly any better than the ones he openly criticizes and is very aware of the hypocrisy in pointing out other webcomics' flaws. [[AtLeastIAdmitIt And at least Yahtzee stopped making his horrible webcomic]]. |
| 202 | * Jim Sterling of ''WebVideo/{{Jimquisition}}'' has been told this after criticizing some buggy, poorly made games that were slapped together using unaltered video game assets and sold on Platform/{{Steam}}. Their response was to point out that they indeed could not make a decent video game, but nor were they trying to, whereas many games were mediocre and buggy, but developers tried to sell them anyway. |
| 203 | -->'''Jim Sterling''': ...When I can't do something, and know I can't do something, I don't just do it anyway, then put it on Steam and try to sell it for ten fucking bucks. |
| 204 | %%* Kippurbird also got this at least once due to her sporkings of ''[[Literature/InheritanceCycle Eragon]]''. |
| 205 | * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeHsSmQdkzE Lost Parody]] did this for their final episode, after 14 completely nonsensical episodes of jabs at ''Series/{{Lost}}'''s failings, in the last episode they managed to pull the entirety of depicted events together into something that came very close to making sense. |
| 206 | -->'''Hurley:''' Now it's your turn, ''Series/{{Lost}}''! '''You only have ONE. EPISODE! LEFT!''' |
| 207 | * If anyone criticizes an article on ''Website/{{Cracked}}'', expect to see this trope show up. Unless the author admits that his article sucks, and apologises for putting it up. |
| 208 | * This happens occasionally on high-traffic wikis, especially TOW. In this case, however, because of the nature of the medium, it's a perfectly legitimate request. |
| 209 | * This trope is the basis for the ''WebAnimation/HowItShouldHaveEnded'' series. |
| 210 | * On ''Website/DragonCave'', a popular adoptables site with dragon sprites, fans will occasionally criticise the art- with things ranging from genuine explanations about not liking colours, poses, shading styles, etc. to others who just say 'It sucks, get rid of it!' Some artists and fans have responded with this trope; others of course understand that everybody can be a good spriter and sketcher, and they're perfectly entitled to having an opinion on art. |
| 211 | * This is referenced by Creator/CleolindaJones at one point. She responds to it with "You don't need to be a farmer to know if the milk's gone bad". |
| 212 | * A common reaction for subjects of WebVideo/{{Retsupurae}}, going so far as to call out Slowbeef and Diabetus asking to see them make a better LetsPlay. Even though they mostly keep their own [=LPs=] away from Website/YouTube, they're ''Website/SomethingAwful'' regulars with ''several'' finished, quality [=LPs=] -- in fact, Slowbeef himself is the one who started Let's Play in the first place. |
| 213 | * WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick often lampshades that she'll have nowhere near the success of the people she's bitching about, and that's why it's so fun to tear their stuff apart in the first place. |
| 214 | * Fansubbers have an unfortunate tendency to fall into this, especially if they're the only ones translating a show. |
| 215 | * The webmaster of Lousy Book Covers apparently received this retort so frequently that he devoted [[http://lousybookcovers.com/?page_id=8805 an entire subpage]] to rebutting the argument... as well as showing his own work in cover design to prove that yes, he ''can'' do better. |
| 216 | * [[https://ideas.fandom.com/wiki/League_of_Extraordinary_Gentlemen:_Tempest_Rewrite This guy did an entire rewrite]] of the last volumes of ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfExtraordinaryGentlemen''. |
| 217 | [[/folder]] |
| 218 | |
| 219 | [[folder:WesternAnimation]] |
| 220 | * Creator/ButchHartman got into a controversy in 2018 when he trashed a fan on live-stream by saying they shouldn't criticize him unless they're also animators like him. The problem is that said fan was not even panning his work. |
| 221 | * Creator/ThomasAstruc will likely shut out any criticism directed towards him and complains constantly that his fans don't know what it's like to write for a cartoon. This naturally has caused a stir on Twitter AND Tumblr, causing fans of ''WesternAnimation/MiraculousLadybug'' to disown him as the creator of said show. Naturally, this hasn't gone without his share of supporters who tend to gang up on his detractors. Nevertheless, Thomas' lack of accepting criticism as well as his inability to see things from a different point of view has put him in a rather questionable light, especially as of late. |
| 222 | ** Resultantly, a Tumblr blog documenting his poor responses to criticism was created and can be found [[https://immaturityofthomasastruc.tumblr.com here.]] |
| 223 | * Creator/RobbieDaymond, voice-over artist for Tuxedo Mask in ''Manga/SailorMoon'' and [[Comicbook/SpiderMan Peter Parker]] in ''WesternAnimation/MarvelsSpiderMan'', rather arrogantly responded to some fans on Website/{{Twitter}} discussing the state of modern-day animation for younger audiences with this. |
| 224 | -->'''Exodus''': [[https://twitter.com/robbiedaymond/status/999094510553452544 I don't want anything shut down or cancelled for the most part. I want more quality in cartoons put out. Most new ones have terrible art styles and crude dumbed-down humor. It's terrible for adult watchers and insulting to child watchers. Kids are very intelligent nowadays.]] |
| 225 | -->'''Robbie''': Then go make your own. |
| 226 | -->'''Kith 0241''': As much as I agree with the rest of your statements, this one feels like it comes from as much a place of ignorance/backlash as those you're tweeting against. To oversimplify it, you don't have to create art to critique or criticize it. So by someone giving their opinion, then getting the response "go make your own" - well for the average person, that's not even a possibility. It just feels ignorant and petty to me. |
| 227 | -->'''Robbie''': Why? We’re all average people. What separates us? My statement wasn’t a putdown, it was a challenge. You can choose to be insulted by it or rise to it.[[note]]Robbie doesn't seem to understand that the average budget for one episode for an animated series costs ''$600,000 to $700,000'', so many won't have that type of money at their disposal to "rise to" his challenge.[[/note]] |
| 228 | * ''Looney Tunes'' veteran Creator/ChuckJones apparently made the Road Runner shorts to mock the StrictlyFormula structure of chase cartoons like ''WesternAnimation/TomAndJerry'' and how ridiculously interchangeable they were. Ironically shortly after moving to MGM, Jones was put in charge of making new ''Tom and Jerry'' shorts. By his own admission, the series was harder to nail than he had assumed, and he lamented he never quite got the dynamic right. |
| 229 | [[/folder]] |
| 230 | |
| 231 | [[folder:Other]] |
| 232 | * In the restaurant chain [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_John%27s Jimmy John's]], individual restaurants all use the same posters on the walls. One of these posters reads, "If you want a faster sandwich, make it yourself!" |
| 233 | * Something of a subversion when ''Series/YouCantDoThatOnTelevision'' was on the air, a boy named Adam Reid complained about the acting of the kids on the show. The producers let him audition and he ended up being one of the show's standouts. |
| 234 | * The entire reason why Lamborghini sportscars exist. Ferrucio Lamborghini owned a successful agricultural equipment company and was speaking to Enzo Ferrari about what he saw as some shortcomings in his Ferrari. Enzo angrily snapped that his products weren't for farmers like Ferrucio and if Ferrucio wanted something better he should make it himself. And he did. |
| 235 | * It is said that when Creator/IsaacWatts was 15 he complained that he thought the hymns they sang in church were dull and old-fashioned. His father told him to write some better ones. He did. (After Creator/FannyCrosby, he's the most prolific hymnographer in the English language.) |
| 236 | * After his [[TanksForNothing tank design was ridiculed by the public]], New Zealand Minister of Public Works Bob Semple stood by it and stated "I don’t see anyone else coming up with any better ideas." The Bob Semple tanks never saw action in World War II, but are somewhat infamous today and something of a point of pride amongst New Zealander tank aficionados. |
| 237 | * A standard part of aircraft accident investigations is seeing if other pilots (in a simulator) would do better than the pilots in the actual accident. Sometimes, the answer is "Yes" (such as incidents involving pilot error). In other cases--such as the Gimli Glider (which ran out of fuel in mid-flight) and United Airlines Flight 232 (where a fan in the engine blew apart and punctured all the hydraulic systems, meaning all the oil leaked out)--[[BeyondTheImpossible the pilots in the simulators couldn't come CLOSE to pulling off what the beleaguered pilots did]], even if they knew in advance what the real pilots had to come up with on the fly. And sometimes--like The Miracle On The Hudson--the possibility of a better outcome is ''there'', but not at all feasable[[labelnote:note]] In that case, Captain Sullenburger could have landed the plane at an airport if he'd turned the plane around instantly. By the time and he and his copilot assessed the situation, it was already too late.[[/labelnote]] |
| 238 | * A popular quote from Creator/{{Cicero}}: "I criticize by creation, not by finding fault." |
| 239 | * Often {{invoked}} by mobile game developers, who release quick, 15-30 second ads showing their games being played through horrifically. The idea is to get the viewer riled up at such blatantly idiotic decisions, that it inspires them to download the game and try for themselves. |
| 240 | [[/folder]] |
| 241 | |
| 242 | !!InUniverse Examples: |
| 243 | |
| 244 | [[folder:Anime and Manga]] |
| 245 | * Kamon from ''Anime/{{FLCL}}'' tells a story about how he was put in charge of taking care of the class' pet hamster in elementary school. When the hamster died, the entire class got angry at him, but he defended himself by saying that none of them had ever taken care of a hamster in their lives. |
| 246 | * Chapter 58 of ''Manga/KaguyaSamaLoveIsWar'' has Kaguya challenge Hayasaka to seduce Shirogane after the latter calls her out for [[StatusQuoIsGod her lack of progress]]. She does a lot better than Kaguya ever had at that point, only failing because Shirogane has SingleTargetSexuality and Kaguya only gave her one day. |
| 247 | * In the Dressrosa Arc in ''Manga/OnePiece'', Cavendish responds to the audience's jeers toward Rebecca prior to their colosseum match by telling them to get in the arena, saying they have no right to mock her. At the same time, she risks her life and they do not. |
| 248 | * ''[[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood]]'': In one confrontation with Gluttony, Mustang's fire attack [[NoSell proves ineffective]] because [[spoiler:Gluttony has activated his internal failed gate and so just absorbs it]]. Ed insults him for being useless, prompting Mustang to snap back that ''Ed'' should do something, then. Ed does manage to do somewhat better, but not without some running and hiding, and he still [[spoiler:gets "eaten"]]. |
| 249 | [[/folder]] |
| 250 | |
| 251 | [[folder:Comic Books]] |
| 252 | * ''ComicBook/TheBatmanStrikes'': In Issue 35, late-night show host Corwin O'Dooley dares a heckler to host his show. Unfortunately, the heckler is ComicBook/TheJoker. |
| 253 | [[/folder]] |
| 254 | |
| 255 | [[folder:Newspaper Comics]] |
| 256 | * ''ComicStrip/USAcres'': |
| 257 | ** [[http://garfield.com/us-acres/1990-01-22 Booker showed Sheldon a hand trick and Sheldon said it's an old one.]] Booker then dared Sheldon to do it and somehow, Booker did see Sheldon doing it despite Sheldon living [[MeaningfulName inside a shell]]. |
| 258 | ** [[https://garfield.com/usacres/1987/06/16 Roy says he can swim better than Orson can.]] When asked to show it, he says he doesn't want to get his feathers wet so Lanolin [[ExactWords takes them away]] so he can swim without getting them wet. |
| 259 | * ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}'' had this as a common gag: a character criticizes another about a piece of artwork and are angrily dared to do better, and ''they do!'' |
| 260 | ** Linus criticized Lucy for making messy o's in TabletopGame/TicTacToe, and when Lucy dares him to do better, he makes an ornate O with precise calligraphy that a professional could not do better. |
| 261 | ** Snoopy laughed at Sally struggling with a drawing compass, and when dared to do better, he proves so good that instead of a circle, he makes a perfect ''square'' instead. |
| 262 | * In one week of ''ComicStrip/PearlsBeforeSwine'' strips, a little girl named Libby criticizes Stephan Pastis' drawing skills, and he challenges her to do better. She does. (As a special bonus, her drawings are actually the work of ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'' creator Bill Watterson, who agreed to collaborate with Pastis for the week.) |
| 263 | [[/folder]] |
| 264 | |
| 265 | [[folder:Fan Works]] |
| 266 | * In ''Fanfic/BleachFanWorks'', Jolene Meyers gets quite annoyed with Oshikko's flaming her work, and says "[[TemptingFate If my fanfic is so bad, why don't you write your own version, huh]]?" He takes her up on her offer, [[IWarnedYou warning her that she may come to regret challenging him]]. |
| 267 | * ''Fanfic/LadyBugOut'': When her classmates start debating about how Alya handled the Oblivio incident (namely, posting a picture of Ladybug and Chat Noir [[KissingUnderTheInfluence kissing while under the akuma's]] [[LaserGuidedAmnesia memory-erasing powers]] and not revealing the context), Alya snaps at Chloe that she doesn't have the right to criticize her work when she doesn't have a blog of her own. Her insistence that [[NeverMyFault she didn't do anything wrong]] spurs Marinette to [[StartMyOwn start her own blog]] as Ladybug, the titular [=LadyBugOut=]. First order of business: setting the record straight, with her fact-checking ruining the reptuation of Alya's Ladyblog. |
| 268 | * This is the basic premise of the ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' fanfic ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13232445/1/Leader-Change Leader Change]]'': After hearing one too many complaints from Weiss regarding her overall competence, Ruby [[BewareTheNiceOnes snaps]] and gives Weiss the opportunity to switch places with her and become the leader of Team [=RWBY=] like she originally wanted to. Suffice to say, [[TheChainsOfCommanding Weiss soon realizes the responsibilities that come with being the leader]] and [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor starts to regret wanting the position so much]]. |
| 269 | * ''Fanfic/APossibleEncounterForAPhantom'': When Kim describes Paulina's cheerleading as "pretty basic", Paulina dares Kim to out-cheer her. Kim accepts the challenge and wins. |
| 270 | * ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4112224/1/A-Study-in-Storytelling A Study in Storytelling]]'' is a Creator/{{KCS}} ''Literature/SherlockHolmes'' fanfic about Watson reading ''The Adventure of the Blanched Soldier''. Holmes admits that he did it after Watson wore him down into writing a story in "self-defense" over Holmes' constant complaining about his own narratives. He is disappointed to find out that Watson considers the result "like putting the third proposition of Euclid into an elopement" and admits it's harder than Watson made it look. Then he panics when the doctor "threatens" to send the manuscript in to the Strand and let the readers decide who relates the cases better. |
| 271 | * ''Fanfic/TanjiroAndKagomeATaishoHeiseiFriendship'': When Tengen applies his [[UncannyValleyMakeup terrible cosmetic job]] to Tanjiro, Zenitsu, and Inosuke as part of their disguise to infiltrate the houses he sent his wives to investigate, Kagome is not amused when she sees the results and calls him out for thinking this will actually fool anyone. When Tengen asks if she can do any better, Kagome takes him up on the challenge and reapplies the boys' makeup, giving them all proper and convincing disguises. |
| 272 | [[/folder]] |
| 273 | |
| 274 | [[folder:Films -- Live-Action]] |
| 275 | * ''Film/BruceAlmighty'', where God basically tells Bruce this; he's been complaining about how He does things, and so he's going to get a chance to put his money where his mouth is. God then gives Bruce all of His powers for a week; naturally, Bruce makes a mess of things because he's a flawed human being--funnily enough, it is also heavily implied that the extent of Bruce's "omnipotence" as bestowed by God only extends as far as the Buffalo, New York area where the film is set, ostensibly to keep Bruce's poor mortal mind sane. |
| 276 | %%* In ''Film/HappyGilmore'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlazKFGxohM&feature=related this is what leads to Happy discovering his talent.]] |
| 277 | * The 1940 film ''Film/EdisonTheMan'' has Edison offer up a rather good rebuttal to this trope: |
| 278 | -->'''Thomas Edison:''' That spring is too strong, it won't work.\ |
| 279 | '''Workman:''' I'd like to see you make a better one.\ |
| 280 | '''Thomas Edison:''' Well, a fellow can tell a bad egg without being able to lay one. |
| 281 | * The Movie ''Film/BitterFeast'' has the life of Peter Grey, a celebrity chef ruined by caustic blogger JT Franks (he loses his TV show, his job as head chef at a fancy restaurant, and an endorsement deal). Grey takes revenge on Franks by kidnapping him, chaining Franks up in a basement in the Hudson Valley and forces Franks to cook dishes with total perfection: anything less and not only does Franks starve, but Grey beats him up with [[FryingPanOfDoom a hot skillet.]] Needless to say, in this BlackComedy of ''Saw'' meets Creator/FoodNetwork, HilarityEnsues. |
| 282 | * Father Nolan in ''Film/ChildrenOfTheCornIIIUrbanHarvest'' invites Eli to preach after he displays unruly behavior during his sermon to embarrass him into behaving, but he instead takes up on the offer and starts sowing the seeds that will eventually turn some of the local children and teens to his side. |
| 283 | * In ''Film/ALeagueOfTheirOwn'', after Jimmy Dugan stumbles in and out of the locker room prior to the Rockford Peaches' first game, the team realizes they don't have a lineup, and probably aren't going to get one from him. Dottie Hinson ends up being the one tasked to make one. |
| 284 | -->'''Dottie:''' Hey, hey, hey, you guys, come on! How hard can it be to make a lineup? Come on!\ |
| 285 | '''Doris:''' Oh yeah? Well, why don't you do it, Oregon?\ |
| 286 | '''Dottie:''' Me?\ |
| 287 | '''Mae and Doris:''' Yeah, you!\ |
| 288 | '''Dottie:''' Alright, Mae, center field, lead off.\ |
| 289 | '''Mae:''' She's good! |
| 290 | * In ''Film/{{Stripes}}'', [[DrillSergeantNasty Sgt. Hulka]] is pushing his men rather hard on a training exercise involving climbing a rope; one of them dares ''him'' to try it. Hulka actually ''does'' and does do it better; unfortunately, this is when [[GeneralFailure Captain Stillman]] orders a mortar crew to fire without setting target coordinates, and a stray one injuring Hulka. |
| 291 | * ''Film/TommyBoy'': After Tommy alienated a potential client with [[LargeHam an overly-hammy sales pitch]], Richard takes the lead on their next meeting with a client, [[SmallNameBigEgo but instead, he comes off as so smug and disdainful]] [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech that he immediately gets chewed out over it]]. |
| 292 | [[/folder]] |
| 293 | |
| 294 | [[folder:Literature]] |
| 295 | * ''Franchise/SherlockHolmes'': |
| 296 | ** Holmes' criticism of Watson's written records of his adventures is almost a running gag in [[Creator/ArthurConanDoyle Doyle's]] works. Eventually, Watson basically told him the name of this trope enough times so that Holmes grabbed a pen and wrote "The Blanched Soldier" (where he acknowledged that it wasn't as easy as it looked at first sight). |
| 297 | ** Applied to Holmes' job in "The Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax": |
| 298 | --> "And a singularly consistent investigation you have made, my dear Watson," said he. "I cannot at any point recall any possible blunder which you have omitted. The total effect of your proceedings has been to give the alarm everywhere and yet to discover nothing."\ |
| 299 | "Perhaps you would have done no better," I answered, bitterly.\ |
| 300 | "There is no 'perhaps' about it. I ''have'' done better." |
| 301 | :: Holmes then introduces the man Watson thought suspicious, who it turns out is the titular lady's fiancé. |
| 302 | * Creator/DavidEddings: an administrator in the Tamul Empire (an ersatz Imperial China) explaining that the appearance of revolutionaries in a province of the empire was an indication that something had gone seriously wrong (as Tamul acted as BenevolentTyrants). Since the revolutionaries had already identified the problems the pragmatic solution was simply to replace the incompetent imperial governors with the revolutionaries. This was also an IronicPunishment as being an imperial governor was one of the most thankless jobs in the empire. NO-ONE liked the governor. |
| 303 | * In ''Literature/{{Jingo}}'', Captain Carrot's reaction to undead-rights SingleIssueWonk Reg Shoe complaining about the Watch is to recruit him. Complaints from the undead community immediately go up, all about Reg, who promptly responds that they don't understand policing in a multi-vital society. |
| 304 | * ''Literature/PandorasLegions'': At the end, the Columbians complain that the whole plan for integrating Earth ideas was wasteful and unnecessary. In response, they're told that [[spoiler:a new planet has been found with humanoids as much smarter than Earthmen as Earthmen are smarter than Centrans, and asked for suggestions on dealing with them.]] |
| 305 | * In ''Literature/RamonaQuimby, Age 8'': After Ramona and Beezus [[PickyEater refuse to eat]] their [[StockYuck cows' tongue]], their parents have them cook the next night's dinner. It turns out surprisingly well, and they learn to appreciate their mother's hard work in the kitchen. |
| 306 | [[/folder]] |
| 307 | |
| 308 | [[folder:Live-Action TV]] |
| 309 | * Numerous DomCom programs through the 1990s employed this 'job switching'-type trope, under two varieties: the domestic partners (i.e., the husband and wife) will switch roles for a day; or the kids will take over the parents' role. Either way, it is certain that both sides will become enlightened by the difficulties of the other's role and the whole situation will be called a draw. |
| 310 | ** The most famous 'let's just see you do better' example was the ''Series/ILoveLucy'' episode "Job Switching." After Ricky and Lucy get into an argument about their roles -- Ricky being the breadwinner and Lucy doing the housework -- and drawing the Mertzes into matters (with Fred and Ethel, predictably, taking sides), both sides say, in essence, 'Let's see you do better.' There's plenty of comedy with Ricky and Fred's efforts to cook dinner (arroz con pollo) and ruining their shirts in a poor attempt at ironing ... but the real fun comes as Lucy and Ethel somehow get jobs at a candy factory. A hilarious fight in the candy dipping department, instigated when Lucy tries to swat away a fly and accidentally hits a coworker, is ''nothing'' compared to the infamous conveyer belt scene, where a seemingly simple task of gathering chocolate kisses and placing them in a box quickly proves to be overwhelming when [[AssemblyLineFastForward the fast pace of the belt]] (''and'' the supervisor's stern threat that any candy that falls off the belt will mean they're fired) makes it impossible to keep up, although they surely try. In the end, both sides -- the guys admitting they damaged the apartment, the gals getting mercilessly fired from the candy factory -- concede defeat. |
| 311 | %%* This is sometimes Fozzie Bear's response to JustForFun/StatlerAndWaldorf's heckling on ''Series/TheMuppetShow''. It tends to backfire. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuIo6gv8VB8 Case in point.]] |
| 312 | * ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'': After forcing Joel and the bots to suffer through ''Film/TheCastleOfFuManchu'', Dr. Forrester awaits them to acknowledge he finally found a movie bad enough to unleash on the world. Joel snaps and tells Dr. Forrester off on what a sad little man he is, telling him to try sitting through these movies and make up his own jokes. Dr. Forrester and TV's Frank decide to do just that, only to fail miserably. |
| 313 | * ''Series/JamesMaysManLab'': James receives a viewer's letter asking him to replay a clip from the previous series where he can't stop laughing at researcher Charlie's unintentionally cubist portrait of Cassandra. After doing so, the letter goes on: |
| 314 | -->'''James:''' [reading] "Then let's see if you can do any better." [''{{Beat}}''] Bugger. |
| 315 | * One ''Series/TheKidsInTheHall'' sketch has a teacher who is trying to teach his students how to do foreign accents and dialects. Each of his accents is horribly done and exaggerated. Finally one of his students complains and the teacher asks him to try doing a [[UsefulNotes/BritishAccents Cockney accent]] (which the teacher himself tried to do before the student complained). The student then proceeds to do a rather authentic-sounding Cockney accent. |
| 316 | * In an episode of ''Series/GilligansIsland'', it's how the female cast members formed their musical group, the Honeybees. To impress the visiting [[Music/TheBeatles Beatles]] knockoffs, [[NoCelebritiesWereHarmed the Mosquitoes]], the men had tried to form their own group. Ginger was critical of their dismal performance. Gilligan quoted his grandmother's sage advice, "Never criticize unless you can do better yourself." Ginger was inspired at this and ran off to collaborate with Mary Ann and Mrs. Howell. |
| 317 | * ''Series/TheColbertReport'': During the December 8, 2014 episode, Stephen started the show by chastising [[UsefulNotes/BarackObama President Obama]]'s performance, saying "No politician can do my job," but before he transitioned into "The Word" segment, President Obama suddenly came on set and said that he'd try to do Stephen's job, so he does his own version of "The Word", titled "The Decree", which was [[Awesome/TheColbertReport incredibly]] [[Funny/TheColbertReport funny]]. |
| 318 | * ''Series/GameOfThrones'': [[DragonInChief Tywin Lannister]] at one point criticizes his daughter, Cersei, for not stopping her son, King Joffrey, from becoming [[TheCaligula a complete wild card and run wild all over the city]]. In response, she challenges him to do a better job, and he simply responds, "I will." [[TheDreaded True to form]], he does exactly that. |
| 319 | * ''Series/RadioEnfer'': Mr. Giroux once makes two contests where two students would be able to become either principal or psychologist for a day, replacing Giroux and Jocelyne respectively, so that students can see how hard it is to be in their shoes. Vincent becomes the principal for a day, while Camille becomes the psychologist because Jean-Lou submitted her name. At the end, after Vincent is unable to do anything productive, [[spoiler:Giroux appears with an Étudiants debout! newspaper he made himself where he criticizes the student's incompetency before admitting the whole point of this contest was so that Vincent would know what it's like to be criticized after a day of work like that]]. |
| 320 | [[/folder]] |
| 321 | |
| 322 | [[folder:Music]] |
| 323 | * The Bob Rivers Christmas parody song "The 12 Pains of Christmas" has, at #2, a frustrated husband setting up Christmas lights and as a result of faulty wiring, causes a blackout. Finally, on the final verse, he says the following to someone (probably his wife, or someone else otherwise in the peanut gallery chuckling at his difficulties), obviously fed up with the whole thing. |
| 324 | -->'''Frustrated husband:''' FINE! IF YOU'RE SO SMART, '''''YOU''''' RIG UP THE LIGHTS!!'' |
| 325 | [[/folder]] |
| 326 | |
| 327 | [[folder:Pro Wrestling]] |
| 328 | * Often invoked by {{heel}}s who lecture the crowd for their criticism of them by combining this trope with YoureJustJealous and UngratefulBastard. Of course, the heel [[ComicallyMissingThePoint never quite understands]] that the crowds are not criticizing his in-ring skills, but his obnoxious, cowardly, {{Jerkass}} behavior. |
| 329 | * During Wrestling/RingOfHonor's Arena Warfare, which was planned ''before'' their cooperation with Wrestling/{{CZW}} became a feud, Alex Shelley made this challenge to a fan after the CZW side started chanting "boring" during his match with Wrestling/BryanDanielson. |
| 330 | * A brief arc in ''WWE RAW'' involved Wrestling/VinceMcMahon attempting to get back at his ArchEnemy Wrestling/BretHart by...promoting him to General Manager. After their iconic feud over Vince "screwing" Hart under his original tenure at WWE, Vince wanted to show Hart just what it meant to be the BadBoss and have to make pivotal decisions and sacrifices not everyone will like. |
| 331 | [[/folder]] |
| 332 | |
| 333 | [[folder:Puppet Shows]] |
| 334 | * In the Hal Linden episode of ''Series/TheMuppetShow'', after years of heckling in the box, Kermit allows for Statler and Waldorf to host the show instead. It ends up being every bit the disaster if Kermit had been running things. |
| 335 | [[/folder]] |
| 336 | |
| 337 | [[folder:Theatre]] |
| 338 | * ''Theatre/AVeryPotterSequel'': "Oh, yeah Lupin? Let's see you sing something better right now!" |
| 339 | [[/folder]] |
| 340 | |
| 341 | [[folder:Video Games]] |
| 342 | * Happens early on in ''VideoGame/TheWarriors''. The game opens in 1978 when several of the gang members we remember from TheMovie [[DefectorFromDecadence quit the Destroyers]] (a rival gang on the other side of Coney Island) because they don't like the way the gang boss, Virgil, has been treating them. Virgil's attitude is, basically, good riddance: 'They couldn't cut it with us, so now [[StartMyOwn they're gonna try to take over]]. Well, I say let 'em try!' This boast eventually [[EpicFail backfires spectacularly]] when, [[ContinuityNod later in the game]], the Destroyers are totally wiped out and Virgil himself is [[ManOnFire executed by Molotov cocktail]] while screaming hysterically. |
| 343 | * The trailer for the Xbox Live Arcade/Windows game ''VideoGame/BattleBlockTheater'' invokes this trope when mentioning the level builder feature, with the voiceover saying "Hey, check this out! If you hate our stuff, shut up and do better!" |
| 344 | [[/folder]] |
| 345 | |
| 346 | [[folder:Web Animation]] |
| 347 | * In Season 10 of ''WebAnimation/RedVsBlue'', when Carolina demands to be implanted with a new AI, after giving the one originally assigned to her to Maine, the Director lets her choose which one she'll obtain (and therefore take from one of her teammates) under this basis. |
| 348 | -->'''The Director:''' If she thinks our decisions are so easy, then let ''her'' make one. |
| 349 | [[/folder]] |
| 350 | |
| 351 | [[folder:Web Comics]] |
| 352 | * After Elly of ''Webcomic/TheWordWeary'' criticizes a woman's parenting skills, the woman [[http://wordwearycomic.blogspot.com/2012/04/5-april-2012.html responds with a variation on this.]] |
| 353 | * In [[http://www.xkcd.com/277/ this]] ''Webcomic/{{Xkcd}}'' comic, a man complains about a long traffic light, whereupon the engineer of the traffic light appears and responds with this. |
| 354 | * ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'': |
| 355 | ** Used to [[LampshadeHanging hang a lampshade]]. Elan, a bard, had written a terrible rhyme because he had to get his point across to a tavern full of people quickly, and the title of the strip was "You Try Rhyming 'Assassin'". |
| 356 | ** Used [[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0397.html again]] to SpotTheImpostor. Vaarsuvius, faced with distinguishing Elan from his EvilTwin Nale, points out that Nale would be familiar with this situation on account of it being a dull and predictable plot turn, and Nale's strategies just aren't all that clever for a self-proclaimed EvilGenius. Nale's FatalFlaw being {{Pride}}, he immediately retorts "So, what, you think you could have come up with something more clever than Nale did?", giving himself away. |
| 357 | * Employed by Red Mage in ''WebcComic/EightBitTheater'' against Black Mage's criticisms of his plan to [[ItMakesSenseInContext escape from RM's A-Hole.]] |
| 358 | -->'''BM:''' So, you want us to build a thing that's the size of everything, using nothing.\ |
| 359 | '''RM:''' Yes.\ |
| 360 | '''BM: TWICE.'''\ |
| 361 | '''RM:''' Yes.\ |
| 362 | ''[{{Beat}}]''\ |
| 363 | '''BM:''' That is quite literally the least practical plan put together by an '''allegedly''' thinking creature.\ |
| 364 | '''RM:''' It's so easy to criticise, isn't it. Can you think of something better?\ |
| 365 | '''BM:''' Yes! By definition, '''ANYTHING''' I say will be better!\ |
| 366 | '''RM:''' What if you say three or more universe-sized holes? Hmmm?\ |
| 367 | '''BM:''' I won't.\ |
| 368 | '''RM:''' Well, go on then. Let's hear '''your idea''', smart guy.\ |
| 369 | ''[{{Beat}}]''\ |
| 370 | '''BM:''' All I can think of is the damn three-hole version! Argh! |
| 371 | [[/folder]] |
| 372 | |
| 373 | [[folder:Web Videos]] |
| 374 | * Used in WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic's review of ''Film/{{Devil}}''. When the Critic bashes the movie's TwistEnding, Creator/MNightShyamalan (not the ''real'' one, of course) challenges the Critic to come up with a better twist. He then decides on [[spoiler:the Devil being the religious security guard (aka "Crazy Toast Guy") who was monitoring the elevator the entire time]], and Shyamalan admits that that actually ''is'' a good twist. |
| 375 | [[/folder]] |
| 376 | |
| 377 | [[folder:Western Animation]] |
| 378 | * ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers'': In "[[Recap/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteersS2E5ThePredator The Predator]]", the climax has Kwame, Linka, and Wheeler (along with one of the locals) trying to catch up to Bleak, who has dumped chum in the water and is dragging a BoundAndGagged Gi and Ma-Ti behind his hydrofoil. Wheeler manages to burn off Gi's gag while they're still some distance away, but he causes her some discomfort in the process. When [[WellExcuseMePrincess Linka]] calls him on it, he retorts that she should try burning something on a moving target that's being pursued by a shark. |
| 379 | * In the ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' episode, "Dances With Smurfs", Cartman is appointed to the morning announcements, and relentlessly and mercilessly picks apart everything Wendy does (and doesn't do) as a class president. As her way of asking Cartman if he could do better, Wendy simply resigned from her spot and let Cartman take over. This actually got Cartman to shut up, as he was prepared to only criticise, not ''act''. One morning of being class president (which as it turns out has no power over the school) and being heckled the same way by the replacement announcer is enough to break him. |
| 380 | -->'''Cartman:''' [[HypocriticalHumor I'M DOING THE BEST I CAN!!!]] ''*runs out the class bawling pathetically*'' |
| 381 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'': |
| 382 | ** In "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS5E10Springfield $pringfield]]", when Bart is kicked out of Mr. Burns' casino and notes the martinis suck, the Squeaky-Voiced Teen challenges him to have his own casino in his treehouse. Bart does just that, leading the teen to note how he was shown up. |
| 383 | ** In "[[Recap/TheSimpsonsS9E6BartStar Bart Star]]", Homer constantly taunts Ned Flanders about his football coaching. |
| 384 | --->'''Marge:''' You know, Homer, it's very easy to criticize.\ |
| 385 | '''Homer:''' Fun, too. |
| 386 | ** When Flanders has enough, he gives Homer the position. |
| 387 | --->'''Ned:''' Do you have a problem with the way I'm coaching?\ |
| 388 | '''Homer:''' No! No! No no no. It's just that... well... like I was yelling earlier... seems like... anyone with half a brain can coach better than you.\ |
| 389 | '''Ned:''' Half a brain, huh? Well, you know what? Sounds like you just volunteered!\ |
| 390 | '''Homer:''' Me? But you were doing such a great job! |
| 391 | ** When Homer is in college, he tells his professor that he knows how a particle accelerator works. The professor challenges him to come down and show everybody. Cut to the lecture hall [[ANuclearError glowing with radiation as people flee screaming...]] |
| 392 | * Used during an episode of ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy''. Mere minutes from his [[ExecutiveMeddling horrible television pilot]] going on the air, Brian notices the cast of ''Series/TwoAndAHalfMen'' standing there. |
| 393 | -->'''Creator/CharlieSheen:''' You're always saying our show sucks. Let's see yours. |
| 394 | ** [[TheCameo Bonus points for actually getting Sheen to do the voice.]] |
| 395 | ** "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS9E13TradingPlaces Trading Places]]" had Meg and Chris claim they could be better parents than Peter and Lois, who gladly oblige. Then it turns out that the kids are right: Meg does the chores in a fraction of the time Lois takes and prepares a delicious dinner, while Chris actually earns a promotion from Peter's job at the brewery near-immediately, to the point where Peter's boss pretty much refuses to let them switch back because Chris is such a better worker than Peter ever was. Meanwhile, Peter and Lois completely screw up in high school and are even less popular than Chris and Meg usually are. Only when the stress of his workload causes Chris to have a heart attack does [[StatusQuoIsGod everything goes back to normal]]. |
| 396 | ** One early episode has a drunken Peter heckle an on-stage comedian. The performer finally loses it and goads Peter onto the stage to see if he can do his job. He actually gets laughs from the audience, but more due to a spilled beer bottle making it seem like he wet his pants. |
| 397 | * ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries''; "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE56HarleyAndIvy Harley And Ivy]]": Harley Quinn halfheartedly defends herself against ComicBook/TheJoker when he blames her for blowing their last caper ([[NeverMyFault ignoring his own mistakes]]). Joker says: ''Maybe I should let YOU run the gang! Maybe YOU are a better crook that the rest of us put together!''. He then expels Harley, and Harley decides to do exactly that with Poison Ivy. Having expected Harley to come crawling back after a day or so and now struggling to function even in terms of basic living without her, Joker naturally doesn't take this all great. |
| 398 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheDreamstone'': |
| 399 | ** In the episode "Urpgor's Great Adventure", Urpgor complains about Blob's hazardous test run with his new invention. Zordrak coyly suggests he is far more capable and volunteers him. Urpgor smugly agrees to this, gloating he will succeed in stealing the stone with half the time and fuss that Blob fails. [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain Guess how things turn out...]] |
| 400 | ** One episode has Blob and his troops stranded on the Isle of Catastrophe (due to a sabotage by Urpgor). He decides he will emulate Urpgor's inventing knack and makes vehicles to escape. They all fail or spontaneously explode. |
| 401 | * In ''WesternAnimation/TheSmurfs'' episode "The Gingerbread Smurfs", when Brainy, being the village critic of everything such as Greedy's cooking, claims that he has just as much skill at cooking as Greedy does, but simply doesn't make a big deal out of it, Greedy challenges him to prove it through a CookingDuel, with gingerbread cookies being the item they will both make for the judging. Of course, Brainy realizes that he can't back up his claims when he and Clumsy attempt to create a recipe for gingerbread cookies and so decides to cheat by using one of Papa Smurf's magic books to create magical gingerbread cookies, which end up becoming AnthropomorphicFood that multiplies and takes over the village. Needless to say, Brainy at the end of the episode gets thrown out of the village along with his cookie. |
| 402 | * A series of fake bloopers in ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}'' features Dot constantly messing up her own OverlyLongName (Princess Angelina Contessa Louisa Francesca Banana Fanna Bo Besca III). After getting teased by Yakko about it, she tells him to try it sometime. Yakko then recites her name flawlessly. Dot merely dismisses it commenting, "Easy for you to say, Mr. United States Canada Mexico Panama!" |
| 403 | * ''WesternAnimation/BlinkyBill'': In the episode "Mayor Blinky Bill", Mayor Pelican gives Blinky the job of mayor after Blinky criticizes him one time too many. The rest of the episode is Blinky learning how hard being mayor really is. |
| 404 | * ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2012'': A key plot point in "New Girl in Town." After being criticized and second-guessed by Raph one time too many, Leo finally gets sick of it and passes over the leadership to him. At first, he's firmly convinced that he'll be a ''much'' better leader than Leo, but he soon finds out [[TheChainsOfCommanding just how tough being leader really is]] during a fight with Snakeweed, where he can't come up with any real plan of attack and goes into a HeroicBSOD when Mikey gets hurt. When they escape, Raph acknowledges that he can't handle being leader, now knows what Leo has to deal with every day, and that [[VetinariJobSecurity they need him back]]. |
| 405 | * In ''WesternAnimation/TheBeatles'' cartoon "I Feel Fine," Paul is "meh" over Hollywood, saying that everything there is phony. This chafes screen star Dick Dashing, who then challenges Paul to do the same stunts he does. |
| 406 | * In one ''WesternAnimation/{{Dilbert}}'' episode, an unnamed security guard (voiced by Creator/WayneKnight) won't cut Dilbert any slack on the rules, which leads to Dilbert insulting his job and an argument over who has it tougher. When the expected challenge is made, Dilbert bets his house that he could be a better security guard than his foe could be an engineer. Things quickly go wrong on Dilbert's watch, and he nearly gets fired; to add insult to injury, the security guard actually excels at being an engineer. Dilbert narrowly avoids losing his house, but the security guard gets a job as an engineer at a better company. After grousing about that, Dilbert badgers a sewer worker for a mistake and [[HereWeGoAgain winds up cleaning up filth in a tunnel in his stead]]. When Ratbert swims by, Dilbert criticizes his technique and, well... |
| 407 | -->'''Dilbert:''' ''swimming half-naked through sewage'' [[LampshadeHanging Maybe I should just learn to keep my mouth shut.]] |
| 408 | * In the ''WesternAnimation/{{Doug}}'' episode "Doug's Big News," all the students in Mrs. Wingo's class finds Mr. Bone's news show to be dull and boring, so he challenges them to make a better one. Mrs. Wingo thinks that a wonderful idea and the class rises to the challenge. |
| 409 | * In the ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' cartoon, "The Honey-Mousers" (an obvious nod to ''Series/TheHoneymooners''), Ralph and Norton, who are mice in this cartoon, are struggling to to get food from the fridge due to a cat. Alice criticizes their approach, and Ralph says for her to try it. She walks over to the cat, and when he tries to yowl at her, [[ShutUpScaryThing she just slaps him across the face and shouts, "AAAAHHH SHADDUP!"]] and he just cowers away. |
| 410 | * In ''WesternAnimation/HouseOfMouse'', Pete is getting on Mickey's nerves by criticizing everything the club does, so Mickey tells him that he can try running it for the night. He ends up becoming a nervous wreck because the villains he hired to help him are driving guests away with their selfish and obnoxious behavior, then to make matters worse the villains turn on ''Pete'' when he tries to get them to clean up their act. Pete ends up begging Mickey to take the club back. |
| 411 | * ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'': In "Boss Mabel", Mabel calls out Stan for the strict way he runs the Mystery Shack, with TheLastStraw being the reveal that he'd turned down Soos's seemingly good idea of having him play a mascot for the Shack called Questiony The Question Mark (Mabel has a particular thing about people following their dreams at any cost). The two make a bet that Mabel take over for a few days while Stan goes on vacation, and whoever makes the most money will be the boss until the end of the summer, with Mabel immediately instituting several changes, such as letting Wendy have friends around during work hours, letting Dipper find real supernatural creatures for the Shack exhibit instead of Stan's fake ones, and giving Soos his mascot dream job. While she does have some initial success running the Shack, things soon start to fall apart: |
| 412 | ** Being TheSlacker, Wendy is more interested in goofing off than doing her job, and without Stan's discipline, she barely lifts a finger, with the presence of her friends making things worse, forcing Mabel to do Wendy's job as well as her own. |
| 413 | ** Much of the real supernatural weirdness of Gravity Falls is incredibly dangerous, and the monstrous Gremoblin Dipper caught for the exhibit ended up sending two customers to the hospital thanks to it's ability to make people see their own nightmares. When it gets out of it's cage later on, it causes so much damage to the Shack it costs Mabel almost all of her profits. |
| 414 | ** Soos is too socially awkward to make an effective mascot, and the costume being very revealing doesn't help. |
| 415 | ** Mabel's pro-customer service does charm the customers and gets a lot of good PR, but it doesn't increase profits much, and means that she has to give out refunds once things start going wrong. In the end, Mabel has to resort to using Stan's MeanBoss management just to restore the status quo, and only barely win the bet because Stan lost all the winnings from the gameshow he was on due to not knowing basic courtesy phrases. And even then, everyone unanomously wants Stan back in charge, seeing how everything fell apart without him. |
| 416 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{Recess}}'': The plot of "Chez Vince" is kickstarted when the lunch ladies hear Vince complaining about the FoulCafeteriaFood and challenge him to do better. Vince goes with them into the kitchen, improvises with ingredients, and reveals himself to be a SupremeChef. |
| 417 | [[/folder]] |
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