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| 12 | [[caption-width-right:237:[[http://loldwell.com/?comic=return-of-the-nagging-of-the-nerds And no]], [[IAmNotShazam the Doctor's name]] ''isn't'' "Series/DoctorWho". ([[Film/DrWhoAndTheDaleks Except when]] [[Recap/DoctorWhoS36E11WorldEnoughAndTime it is.]])]] |
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| 14 | In every community for every series, there are common mistakes. Someone could [[InconsistentSpelling use the wrong spelling]] of a character's name, or think that [[IAmNotShazam the title referred to the main character]], or insist on [[UrbanLegends spreading a rumor about the plot until everyone believes it]], or [[PublicMediumIgnorance pigeon-holing fans into]] negative stereotypes. |
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| 16 | Sometimes, it goes further than just "dislike", though. Sometimes it crosses into BerserkButton territory, and the reaction is disproportionate rage at the offender. |
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| 18 | A SubTrope of CommonKnowledge. Compare CowboyBebopAtHisComputer (when media gets the facts wrong), DiscreditedMeme, FandomHeresy (when it's a subjective opinion and not objective mistakes), IAmNotShazam, RefrainFromAssuming (when a song title is different from its lyrics), SeriousBusiness, and BrokenBase. |
| 19 | %% When adding examples, please keep in mind that this trope covers audience and fandom reactions. It is '''not''' intended to be a catalog of misspellings, misconceptions, and common errors. |
| 20 | %% As an addition to the above, please don't list your personal pet peeves related to works here. Only list something if the majority of the fanbase is thrown into a rage by it. |
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| 22 | '''This AudienceReaction has been subject to some misuse. Fandom-Enraging Misconceptions are ''objective'' mistakes that annoy fans. Please read the following lists to make sure your example actually qualifies.''' |
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| 24 | [[foldercontrol]] |
| 25 | |
| 26 | [[folder:Common Fandom-Enraging Misconceptions]] |
| 27 | |
| 28 | If you've seen fans get angry when someone does one of these things, chances are it should be added here. Note that this list isn't exhaustive, so even if it's not in there, it might still count. Just make sure it's not in the list of things that don't count. |
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| 30 | * [[IAmNotShazam Assuming a character's name based on the work's title]]. |
| 31 | * Misspelling or mispronouncing a name, or otherwise getting it wrong -- whether it belongs to [[ViewerNameConfusion a character]], place, concept, [[TitleConfusion the work itself]], or the author. |
| 32 | * Using the previous spelling or pronunciation of a name when the spelling or pronunciation was officially changed. |
| 33 | * [[WordOfDante Mistaking]] {{fanon}} for {{canon}}, or mistaking something canon to only be fanon. |
| 34 | * Treating something that's [[CanonDiscontinuity non-canon]] as canon. |
| 35 | * Claiming that [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks a work or character is a rip-off of another due to superficial resemblances]]. Bonus points if [[OlderThanTheyThink the work or character supposedly being ripped off actually debuted years after the so-called "rip-off"]]. |
| 36 | ** On a similar note, claiming that two or more vaguely similar yet unrelated franchises are basically the same thing. This will enrage the fandoms of all franchises concerned, and they will put aside any FandomRivalry and unite so they can severely punish the offender. |
| 37 | * Assuming that a work is "[[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids for kids]]" due to [[AnimationAgeGhetto its appearance]]. |
| 38 | * Mistaking the work's genre and complaining when it doesn't fit their expectations. |
| 39 | * Mistaking the work's creator for another one due to similar styles. |
| 40 | * Confusing multiple similar characters for each other, or believing that they are all the same person. |
| 41 | * Making sweeping and untrue assumptions about the entire fanbase. For example, assuming that fans only like a work due to RuleThirtyFour. |
| 42 | * [[ViewerGenderConfusion Getting a character's stated gender wrong]]. |
| 43 | * Thinking [[AdaptationDisplacement an adaptation came before the original source material]], that [[SequelDisplacement a sequel is the first entry in a series]], or that a new adaptation of the original source material is a {{Remake}} of a previous adaptation. |
| 44 | * [[CoveredUp Thinking a cover of an existing song is the original version]] is usually this for fans of the original artist. This is common if the original song was obscure when first released and the cover became a hit[[note]]Famously, Music/DavidBowie was very happy with Music/{{Nirvana}}'s 1993 cover of his 1970 song "Music/TheManWhoSoldTheWorld", and was anything but happy with young Nirvana fans thinking Bowie's song is a "cover" of the "original" Nirvana version[[/note]]. |
| 45 | * [[PoesLaw Taking a comedic/parodic/satirical moment or work seriously]]. Bonus points if there are visual/audio cues that indicate the creator is joking and doesn't actually advocate any potentially UnfortunateImplications. |
| 46 | * Thinking characters that get ShipTease, but whose relationship is [[MaybeEverAfter left open-ended]], are an OfficialCouple. |
| 47 | [[/folder]] |
| 48 | |
| 49 | [[folder:Things that do '''not''' qualify as Fandom-Enraging Misconceptions]] |
| 50 | |
| 51 | The following may be confused with objective misconceptions about the work, so please make sure your example does not fall under any of them (You can say this is a meta-example of FandomEnragingMisconception on this very wiki): |
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| 53 | * Preferring one spelling of a character's name over another when there ''is'' no official spelling, or [[InconsistentSpelling the spelling is inconsistent so nobody knows which is the official one]]. The same goes for [[ViewerPronunciationConfusion names without official pronunciations]]. |
| 54 | * Using a character's [[DubNameChange translated name]] instead of the original, or vice versa. |
| 55 | * Merely mentioning an unpopular {{fanon}} theory. ''Mistaking'' such a theory for official canon can be a valid example, though, and especially believing explicitly {{Jossed}} theories. |
| 56 | * Drawing fanart that makes certain changes to the characters. Even if the changes are potentially controversial or offensive, such as altering a character's [[RaceLift ethnicity]] or body type, adding gore, or invoking Rule34, they don't count as long as the artist doesn't hold objective misconceptions about the character. |
| 57 | * Referencing a character with an AmbiguousGender as either gender, or bringing up gender with a character that dresses as the opposite gender or otherwise has an AmbiguousGenderIdentity. |
| 58 | * Comparing the work to [[FandomRivalry a rival fandom's]] as long as the facts themselves are right. |
| 59 | * Something that is ultimately just an opinion. "X sucks" or "X is the best" are and will always be just opinions, no matter how universally accepted or justified. Going against such opinions is a FandomHeresy. |
| 60 | * A FanonDiscontinuity, something about the work that is not a misconception but an actual fact. Fandoms are usually embarrassed by those ones and try to ignore them, so they get pissed when someone criticizes the work because of them. |
| 61 | * Disagreeing politically with most fans. Not even if someone's being bigoted against a large portion of the fanbase (such as homophobia for a work with a large LGBTFanbase). Any misconceptions from which this bigotry might arise is not a misconception about the ''work'' in question. |
| 62 | %% Add other examples above these, since they're more important. |
| 63 | * Anything from the list of things that do qualify, if it's not common or severe enough to significantly bother fans of the work every time it comes up. Giving a reason why the misconception is so common is a good way to make sure your example doesn't fall into this (as well as avoiding being a Administrivia/ZeroContextExample). |
| 64 | * Anything from the list of things that do qualify, but it's something that's [[BrokenBase divisive]], with those that use the "wrong" terminology on purpose due to their preference for them. |
| 65 | * And most of all, anything that annoys [[FanHater non-fans]]. Non-fans' reactions to anything are outside the scope of ''Fandom''-Enraging Misconception. |
| 66 | [[/folder]] |
| 67 | |
| 68 | [[noreallife]] |
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| 70 | !!Example subpages: |
| 71 | |
| 72 | [[index]] |
| 73 | * FandomEnragingMisconception/AnimeAndManga |
| 74 | * [[FandomEnragingMisconception/LiveActionFilms Films — Live-Action]] |
| 75 | * FandomEnragingMisconception/LiveActionTV |
| 76 | * FandomEnragingMisconception/{{Literature}} |
| 77 | * FandomEnragingMisconception/{{Music}} |
| 78 | * FandomEnragingMisconception/ProfessionalWrestling |
| 79 | * FandomEnragingMisconception/{{Sports}} |
| 80 | * FandomEnragingMisconception/VideoGames |
| 81 | ** ''FandomEnragingMisconception/{{Kirby}}'' |
| 82 | ** ''FandomEnragingMisconception/{{Pokemon}}'' |
| 83 | ** ''FandomEnragingMisconception/SonicTheHedgehog'' |
| 84 | * FandomEnragingMisconception/WesternAnimation |
| 85 | ** ''FandomEnragingMisconception/MyLittlePony'' |
| 86 | [[/index]] |
| 87 | |
| 88 | !!Other examples: |
| 89 | |
| 90 | [[foldercontrol]] |
| 91 | |
| 92 | [[folder:Multiple Media]] |
| 93 | * Don't refer to a HumongousMecha as a "Transformer" unless it's actually from ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}''. This will piss off both Transfans and fans of the work it's actually from. |
| 94 | * Confusing Figment from Ride/JourneyIntoImagination with the title character of ''Franchise/SpyroTheDragon'' or vice versa due to both being purple dragons will piss off fans of both franchises. |
| 95 | * Unless you are referring to reruns or home video releases: if you were born after 1994 and say that a show you grew up with is from TheNineties, that is a sure-fire way to get fans to yell at you and assure that certain shows such as ''WesternAnimation/TheProudFamily'', ''Series/VeronicaMars'', ''WesternAnimation/FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends'' and ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia'' debuted ''after'' the 90s.[[note]]In the case of the four shows mentioned here, they first aired in 2001, 2004 (for the middle two) and 2005, respectively.[[/note]] |
| 96 | ** Same applies if you are born after 1984 and say that you grew up with a show from TheEighties. |
| 97 | *** Better yet, depending on what year you are born, don't say that you grew up with a show from any other decades. |
| 98 | * ''VideoGame/{{Fortnite}}'' has had [[Crossovers/{{Fortnite}} several skins]] based on [[GuestFighter licensed characters]]. ''Fortnite'''s is also [[CashCowFranchise massively popular]] with younger audiences who might not be familiar with those characters' origins. Because of this, implying that [[WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty Rick Sanchez]], Film/JohnWick, [[VideoGame/GodOfWar Kratos]], or any of the other {{Crossover}} characters are "from ''Fortnite''" is a good way to piss off fans of their actual source material. |
| 99 | [[/folder]] |
| 100 | |
| 101 | [[folder:Comic Books]] |
| 102 | * ''ComicBook/AntMan'': Want to piss off Marvel Comics fans, especially ComicBook/AntMan fans? Call Hank Pym [[NeverLiveItDown a wifebeater]]. Given how grossly such a statement oversimplifies the incident in question and the fact that neither the writers nor the haters ever shut up about it, this is rather understandable. |
| 103 | * ''ComicBook/{{Aquaman}}'': A general one for DC Comics fans, but a major one for fans of the character himself, is to call Aquaman useless. The guy has numerous powers beyond just talking to fish and is more than just his ''WesternAnimation/{{Superfriends}}'' incarnation. Making these jokes means you're basically admitting you don't read DC comics or are a KnowNothingKnowItAll when it comes to Aquaman. |
| 104 | * ''ComicBook/{{Batman}}'': |
| 105 | ** "So why ''doesn't'' he just kill the Joker?" This has been such a sticky subject for fans that comic writers and even the ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries'' have adapted this topic. |
| 106 | ** Another common argument that the fanbase are sick of hearing is "If Bruce Wayne really cared about Gotham, then he should donate some of his money to improving things rather than dressing up like a bat and punching people." Bruce Wayne is an active philanthropist in just about every ''Batman'' continuity -- his charitable donations don't get as much narrative focus as his superheroics, sure, but that's not too surprising considering his story is ''about'' superheroics. Also, even if he could give his full attention to philanthropy, Gotham is famously full of corrupt officials/political figures who would no doubt try to get his money as much as they can. This is addressed in Film/TheBatman2022. |
| 107 | ** Ra's Al Ghul. According to [[WordOfGod Denny O'Neil]], his name was originally meant to be pronounced 'Raesh'. While the phrase "head of the demon" does indeed translate into "ra's al-ghuul" in real Arabic (suggesting the character's name is NOT supposed to consist of a made-up language), the pronunciation does not contain the sounds "i" or "sh". In ''Film/BatmanBegins'' it's pronounced 'Rahs', which is much closer to the actual pronunciation. Still, pronouncing it in any way other than 'Raesh' will attract much ire from fans. In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'', Terry pronounces it "Rahs" and is "corrected" by Talia ([[spoiler:actually Ra's]]). |
| 108 | %% ** "Isn't Batman just as crazy as his villains?" |
| 109 | * ''ComicBook/BlackPanther'': Fans hate it when the hero is accused of being created as a mascot for the Black Panther Party. Not only did his comic book come out before the party was founded, but Marvel actually changed the hero's name to Black Leopard for a while to avoid any associations with the political organization. |
| 110 | * ''Creator/DCComics'': Making character calls about the modern versions of DC superheroes by using evidence from before ''ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' (unless you're talking about one of the large number of specific characters who died during/weren't rewritten by the event) is a great way to get everyone on the forum to laugh their asses off. A big example is citing that Batman uses guns and kills, things that were phased out incredibly quickly are '''very obviously''' not canon. Also, mixing up which of said rewritten characters had their pasts completely wiped, which ones were rebooted in a modern setting, and which ones had their continuity subjected to BroadStrokes, ''and'' how broad those strokes are for each character and each past event, will earn you just as much ridicule. Yes, keeping up with [[ContinuitySnarl comic continuity]] is widely known to be a bitch, but this is widely considered basic knowledge that comes right after figuring out which characters belong to Marvel and which to DC. |
| 111 | * ''ComicBook/DisneyDucksComicUniverse'': For fans of the series featuring Donald Duck and Uncle Scrooge, particularly old-school fans of Creator/CarlBarks' work, referring to the comics as "WesternAnimation/{{Duck Tales|1987}} comics" or [[AdaptationDisplacement primarily associating]] characters like Scrooge, Gyro or the Beagle Boys with ''[=DuckTales=]'' is a sure recipe for a fan rant. |
| 112 | * ''ComicBook/TheFlash'': One that applies to a lot of the DC fanbase but also specifically for the Flash fanbase is saying Superman is faster than any Flash. Not that people didn't have fun with the stories where that was a plot point, it's just acknowledged that having the Flash be faster than Superman is just better for the Justice League's dynamic, as well as making Superman less overpowered. For reference, at this point almost ''every'' [[LegacyCharacter incarnation of The Flash]] has had a story that confirms that they're faster than Superman (Wally West is just acknowledged as the Fastest Man Alive period and has shown he can easily outrun Superman, Barry Allen demonstrated his greater speed in ''ComicBook/TheFlashRebirth'' while claiming any past defeat was 'for charity', and Jay demonstrated he was faster than Clark in a story during Geoff Johns run where Jay attempts to commit a HeroicSacrifice), so only Jesse Chambers and Bart Allen are left to prove it (though Jesse has outraced ''Supergirl''). |
| 113 | * ''ComicBook/GhostRider'''s Penance Stare is ''not'' dependent on how much guilt the person it's being used on feels. You realize [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway how lame]] that would make Ghost Rider's signature power based on [[TheSociopath the kind of people]] [[SatanicArchetype he regularly uses it on]]. It all started with an issue of ''ComicBook/Thunderbolts2012'' where ComicBook/ThePunisher NoSell's it, claiming it's because he's never felt a single shed of guilt for all the people he's killed. In reality he'd prepped for the fight and had an angel feather granting him divine protection against his powers. They even had Ghost Rider appear in an issue of his own season and [[CurbStompBattle take him down easily with the stare]], but the damage was done. |
| 114 | * ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'': "Spider-Man" is two words separated by a hyphen; spelling his name "Spiderman" or "Spider Man" is a good way to get called out. Spidey himself sometimes gets annoyed at people making this mistake InUniverse; amusingly, he can (somehow) [[MediumAwareness tell when the hyphen isn't included in the dialogue]], and occasionally takes the time to chew out the character speaking. |
| 115 | -->''"Respect the hyphen!"'' |
| 116 | * ''ComicBook/{{Superman}}'': |
| 117 | ** One aspect that's particular to the DC reboot is the case of Superman's identity, and which is the 'real' persona. Pre-Crisis, "Superman" was the ''real'' character and "Clark Kent" was a character he played to 'fit in' among humans and get information about ongoing crimes.[[note]]This is DependingOnTheWriter, with some pre-Crisis stories holding that "Superman" and "Clark Kent" are equally fictional, and the "real" persona is Kal-El[[/note]] Post-Crisis, "Superman" is just what he ''does'', while "Clark Kent" is who he ''is''; he's genuinely a mild-mannered EveryMan who happens to be a PhysicalGod and he chooses to use those powers to help people, but "Clark Kent" is very much the identity where he acts as who he is. Generally, Clark-as-the-real-persona adds considerable depth to his character, so most fans and creators prefer this. However, despite this being canon since 1985, some people seem to think of "Clark Kent" as the facade, and it can often get on fans' nerves when it's treated as if the 'real' Superman is the simplistic archetypal superhero he pretends to be.[[note]]Yes, [[Film/KillBill Bill]], we mean you. Though in that case, the fandom prefers to take the fact that he's wrong as just another of his flaws.[[/note]] |
| 118 | ** This sometimes happens regarding ComicBook/LexLuthor's name, particularly in ''[[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Justice League Unlimited]]''. A talk show host interviewing Luthor, who happens to be running for President at the time, pronounces it Luther, while in another episode Superman gets it right by forcing the 'thor' part. It's also hard to shake Creator/NedBeatty's unforgettable Brooklynite rendition in ''Film/SupermanTheMovie'', "Mistah Loo-Toah!" |
| 119 | * ''Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles'': |
| 120 | ** In regard to Mirage Comics-based Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles (or the early IDW issues), asking why all of the Turtles are wearing red, or "why they're all Raph", or any indication that their original bandana color is weird and foreign. |
| 121 | ** Mixing up the Turtles' names, or calling something that's not even one of their names ("Galileo", "Yoda", etc.) |
| 122 | ** Raph and Mikey tend to get their shortened names spelled wrong -- as "Ralph" and "Mickey". |
| 123 | * ''Franchise/{{Tintin}}'': Detectives Thompson and Thomson are ''not'' identical twins, as the different spellings of their surnames shows. It doesn't help that the other characters sometimes sarcastically describe them as twins, nor that [[WriteWhoYouKnow they were inspired by]] ''Tintin'' creator Creator/{{Herge}}'s [[WriteWhoYouKnow real-life father and paternal uncle, who were identical twins themselves]]. |
| 124 | * ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'': There's sometimes confusion about whether it's "Watchmen" or "The Watchmen". This provoked a lot of fan-rage when the [[Film/{{Watchmen}} movie]] came out, especially because "watchmen" was an {{Arc Word|s}} in the comic, and became the name of a superhero team in the movie. (In the comic, Captain Metropolis's team is called "The Crimebusters".) |
| 125 | * ''ComicBook/XMen'': ''ComicBook/{{Cyclops}}'' fans will be quick to point out that his [[EyeBeams Optic Blasts]] are not "lasers" or "heat vision", but rather beams of concussive force. I.e. [[MemeticMutation "his eyes are portals to the punch dimension"]]. |
| 126 | ** This has been referenced in a comic storyline where Cyclops attempts to reconnect with his deadbeat dad through a camping trip. Cyclops snaps at his father for assuming he can light the campfire with his EyeBeams, saying it just goes to show how little he knows about his own son. |
| 127 | [[/folder]] |
| 128 | |
| 129 | [[folder:Comic Strips]] |
| 130 | * ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}'': |
| 131 | ** No, Peppermint Patty and Marcie are '''not''' lesbians. What HoYay some people see in the strip is very mild, and contrary to the SubvertedKidsShow jokes some other works have made, it is not {{Canon}}. Both have (unrequited) crushes on Charlie Brown (and other guys in the specials) and the idea of them being lesbians has been reportedly {{jossed}} by Creator/CharlesMSchulz himself. |
| 132 | ** Don't call Peppermint Patty just "Patty". There is already a separate character named "Patty". |
| 133 | ** Don't spell Frieda's name as [[InconsistentSpelling "Frida" or "Freida"]]. And no, she is '''not''' the Little Red-Haired Girl, either. |
| 134 | ** Lucy and Violet should not be mistaken as each other and vice-versa. Fans can tell you that Violet can be distinguished by the hairbun. |
| 135 | [[/folder]] |
| 136 | |
| 137 | [[folder:Computing]] |
| 138 | * The editor of one early (late 1970s) British computer magazine persistently claimed that the difference between compilers and interpreters was "academic", even in the face of corrections from knowledgeable readers, until one month he learned the hard way just how wrong he was, by wasting three pages of the mag on a worthless hex-dump of the workspace of a BASIC interpreter. The mag didn't last very much longer after that issue. |
| 139 | * For the love of God, ''don't claim that Java and [=JavaScript=] are essentially the same thing''. As any computer science teacher will tell you, the only thing they have in common is the word "Java" in their names. Similar but less extreme is confusing C and C++; while ''those'' actually ''are'' related to each other unlike Java and [=JavaScript=], saying that you're proficient in "the C/C++ language" shows that you know neither. |
| 140 | [[/folder]] |
| 141 | |
| 142 | [[folder:Films -- Animation]] |
| 143 | * Never, ever say that [[AllAnimationIsDisney a non-Disney work was made by Disney]]. Most works that are assumed to be made by Disney don't even have an artstyle that remotely resembles Disney's. This is only exacerbated as most animation fans are all too aware of Disney's virtual monopoly on animation to begin with. |
| 144 | * Creator/DonBluth worked at Disney for a while in the 70s, which includes working on the short ''WesternAnimation/TheSmallOne''. However, [[AllAnimationIsDisney call a post-departure Don Bluth movie a Disney movie]] when there are Don Bluth fans around. You'll be sure to irk someone. |
| 145 | * Saying that ''WesternAnimation/BeautyAndTheBeast'' is about UsefulNotes/StockholmSyndrome is a good way to start an argument with not only fans of the film, but people actually familiar with how Stockholm Syndrome works. |
| 146 | * You'll be sure to rile up ''WesternAnimation/{{Coraline}}'' fans if you call it a Creator/TimBurton movie. The most likely cause of this confusion is that the advertising proclaimed it to be "From the director of ''WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas''"...but the director of both, and the man referred to in the advertising, was Henry Selick. [[DirectorDisplacement Many people think Burton directed]] ''[[DirectorDisplacement Nightmare]]'', [[DirectorDisplacement but he actually only produced it and worked on its story]]. It may have been intentional wording, however, to deliberately make people think of the more well-known Burton while still being accurate. |
| 147 | ** Likewise, don't mistake ''WesternAnimation/ParaNorman'' for a Tim Burton movie either. |
| 148 | * ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen|2013}}'': |
| 149 | ** ''Don't'' call Elsa "Princess Elsa". Aside from the beginning of the film where she is a princess (though never referred to as such), she is '''Queen''' Elsa, and making the mistake of calling her "Princess" ''will'' cause backlash. |
| 150 | ** Don't call Elsa a villain. Yes, she was originally written as one and maybe some of her actions are questionable, even if they're accidents, but the fandom will ''not'' take kindly to Elsa being called a villain. It doesn't help that pre-release advertising was intentionally deceptive to help preserve that ''Frozen'' was actually defying many Disney cliches--the "evil sorceress" isn't evil or even intentionally antagonistic and the Prince Charming-type is the ''real'' villain. |
| 151 | ** Confusing Elsa with [[VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy Rosalina]] isn't a good idea. |
| 152 | ** An easy way to get a rise out of ''Frozen'' fans is to say Anna is a ripoff of [[WesternAnimation/{{Tangled}} Rapunzel]] and Disney can't design female characters anymore. Honey Lemon from ''WesternAnimation/BigHero6'' faces similar debates. |
| 153 | * ''WesternAnimation/TheLandBeforeTime'': Do not spell Cera's name as "Sarah" or "Sara". |
| 154 | * Referring to ''WesternAnimation/TheLionKing1994'' as a [[FollowTheLeader rip-off]] of ''Anime/KimbaTheWhiteLion'' is ''not'' going to end well, as this notion has been repeatedly debunked. Not only do the two franchises have little in common, but ''The Lion King'' is actually a re-telling of ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}''. Furthermore, most examples used as "proof" that ''The Lion King'' copied ''Kimba'' come from the 1997 ''Kimba'' movie, which although based on the second arc of the 1950's manga, ''The Lion King'' predates by three years. |
| 155 | * Do not assume that Spider-Ham from ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse'' was inspired by the Spider-Pig gag from ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsonsMovie''. He was [[OlderThanTheyThink actually created]] [[ComicBook/SpiderHam as a one-off character in 1983]]. |
| 156 | * Mistaking a CGI Creator/{{Disney}} film like ''WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph'' or ''WesternAnimation/{{Bolt}}'' for a Disney-Creator/{{Pixar}} film is not wise around animation fans. In particular, ''WesternAnimation/{{Planes}}'' is a {{spinoff}} created by Disney Toon Studios (mostly known for their direct-to-video sequels, prequels, and interquels) and is ''not'' a Pixar movie -- but it doesn't stop many people from mistakenly blaming Pixar for it. |
| 157 | * Calling ''WesternAnimation/TheThiefAndTheCobbler'' a rip-off of ''WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}}'' is both unwise and factually incorrect; ''The Thief and the Cobbler'' was in production long before ''Aladdin'' was, and only came out afterward because it went through severe DevelopmentHell. Fans will point out that, if anything, ''Aladdin'' was the one that borrowed from ''The Thief and the Cobbler''. |
| 158 | [[/folder]] |
| 159 | |
| 160 | [[folder:Pinball]] |
| 161 | * Don't call it "tilting" instead of "nudging". Pinball enthusiasts will remind you that "tilting" is what happens when you excessively nudge the table and void your current ball as a result. |
| 162 | [[/folder]] |
| 163 | |
| 164 | [[folder:Tabletop Games]] |
| 165 | * ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'' |
| 166 | ** Clan fans don't like it when you call the Timber Wolf and Summoner their Inner Sphere names [=MadCat=] and Thor. Lest you want to be called a "Freebirth Stravag". [[note]]Most Clan mechs have two canonical names, but one is considered correct and the other is a reporting name by their enemies.[[/note]] The reverse also applies, as using Clan names around Inner Sphere fans will earn you the title of "Clanner scum" and a volley of insults about your defeat at the hands of Space Comcast. |
| 167 | ** Any type of comparison of the Word of Blake Jihad to MiddleEasternTerrorists claiming 'jihad' against the West is considered in poor taste and usually avoided. Comparisons to the Blakists to Islam are also considered ignorant since ''Battletech'' shows several perfectly reasonable planets of Islamic faith (particularly in the Draconis Combine, which is something of a surprise considering the Combine's many authoritarian stances). At least one in-universe news article is from a polite but clearly irate Islamic scholar who takes umbrage at the use of "Jihad" by the Blakists to describe their interstellar temper tantrum war crimes, correctly pointing out how this appropriation sullies the word and its original meanings and implications. |
| 168 | * ''[[TabletopGame/{{Clue}} Clue(do)]]'': Never refer to Miss Scarlet, Colonel Mustard, Mrs. Peacock, and Professor Plum as "Miss Red", "Mr. Yellow", "Mrs. Blue", and "Mr. Purple". Ever. |
| 169 | * Do not call [[TabletopGame/TrudvangChronicles Drakar och Demoner]] (''Dragons and Demons'', abbreviated to [=DoD=] in order to differentiate it) a TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons ripoff, as that is a sure sign you have actually never played it or even heard much about it besides its name. |
| 170 | * ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons:'' |
| 171 | ** D&D has demons and devils. Many, many fans commonly mistake the two (which isn't really helped by the fact that the earliest editions just had demons, but no devils) and nearly just as many are really anal about fans who can't get it right. And when you throw in the fact that the most common kind of both demons and devils have more specific names (Tanar'ri and Baatezu respectively), it all just gets very messy, very fast. Plus other kinds like obyrith and archdevils that more pure-blooded fans know about. Part of this comes from the fact that, in many versions of the game, demons and devils DO have objective differences based on Alignment: while both are always Evil, Demons are characterized as always Chaotic, Devils are always Lawful. This extends to other celestial beings like Angels, Archons, Devas, Asuras, etc., where it is less defined. |
| 172 | ** Misspelling [[RougeAnglesOfSatin "rogue" as "rouge"]] will get you flamed in most online fora. |
| 173 | ** Every edition of the game has had a major revision about halfway through in order to, depending on whom you ask, fix balance issues or sell more books. The revision of third edition is officially called 3.5. The revision of second edition ("Player's Options") is frequently called 2.5 and that's no big deal. However, calling the revision of fourth edition ("Essentials") "4.5" is a berserk button among fans of that edition. |
| 174 | * ''TabletopGame/{{Paranoia}}''. Even in the game world itself, referring to The Computer as "the Computer" or, worse, "the computer" can get you a summary execution. "Friend Computer" will do. |
| 175 | * ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'': Unless you're using a specific house rule to allow it, rolling a natural 20 or a natural 1 does ''not'' result in an automatic success or failure (respectively) on anything other than an attack roll or a save. Suggesting to a hardcore group of players that they apply to skill or attribute checks may earn anything from scowls to mockery to firm suggestions to try reading the rules. |
| 176 | ** This also applies to D&D 3.x, the rules on which Pathfinder is based. |
| 177 | * ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' |
| 178 | ** Demon is an acceptable vernacular, though the preferred word is Daemon. Lord help you if you get the A and the E confused. |
| 179 | ** Space Marines armies aren't "pretty much all the same". There are myriad differences between the named codices, much less the various ways the plain Space Marines codex is interpreted by both players and in-universe Marine leaders. |
| 180 | ** Every army in Codex: Space Marines isn't "pretty much Ultramarines". Depending on whom you ask this is either Ultramarines propaganda, or egregious and atrocious canon manipulation by Matt Ward. |
| 181 | ** Blood Angels and Dark Angels are '''very''' different armies; do not confuse them. |
| 182 | ** One of the fastest way of pissing off a Blood Angels fan is by saying "You painted your [[VideoGame/DawnOfWar Blood Ravens]] wrong". |
| 183 | ** Do not call an individual unit selected from ''Codex: Black Templars'' a singular "Black Templar". You can call them by their unit names when all else fails. You can also call them an Initiate or a Crusader. |
| 184 | ** They're Or'''k'''s. "Orcs & Goblins" are in the other ''Warhammer'' game (see below). The K is important, especially to Ork players, who have been known to hound people til they leave a forum for making this mistake. |
| 185 | ** For Orks, the "g" in "WAAAGH!" is silent. If you forget that, then fans might call one on you. |
| 186 | ** Do not call armies fielded from ''Codex: Space Marines'' "vanilla" or "generic" Space Marines without knowing your opponent really well. Many Space Marine players take offense to both terms. This has largely crossed into [[DeadHorseTrope dead horse territory]] with the 6th edition codex folding many chapters into the book and creating "Chapter Tactics". Now it's very common to ask a Space Marines player what chapter he's representing since the chapter tactics are a very important part of the metagame. Add in the litany of supplements released for chapters (Iron Hands, Imperial Fists, etc.) and pretty much nobody gets slapped with the "vanilla" label... except the Smurfs. |
| 187 | ** Don't use "Real Warhammer" or "Original Warhammer" to indicate that you mean ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' to a 40k player. Also don't call it just "Warhammer" and assume they know what you mean. 40k-exclusive players consider 40k '''Real''' Warhammer. The accepted terms of distinction are "Fantasy" and "40k". You can also call Fantasy "Classic". Also bear in mind, a considerable population plays both. |
| 188 | * ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' |
| 189 | ** Don't called Dwarfs "Dwarves." The former is the plural in Warhammer Fantasy, the latter is the plural in ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''. |
| 190 | * Never ask a ''TabletopGame/{{Warmachine}}'' player if they're playing ''Warhammer''. Just... don't. |
| 191 | [[/folder]] |
| 192 | |
| 193 | [[folder:Theatre]] |
| 194 | * ''Theatre/LesMiserables'': Enjolras' flippant comment in the book and 2012 movie notwithstanding, the story does ''not'' take place during the French Revolution. The barricade scenes are set during the June Rebellion, over forty years after the French Revolution. |
| 195 | * Saying that ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' is set in 1870 is a good way to get a long talk about the Franco-Prussian War, the Commune of Paris, and research errors in general. |
| 196 | * In the world of opera fandom (yes, there is an opera fandom) there are numerous mistakes that outsiders/newcomers can make. And don't think that just because the Opera crowd is metaphorically monocled and top-hatted that their fury is less passionate than the most devoted Trekkies or Whovians. |
| 197 | ** Do '''not''' ever ever refer to ''Theatre/ThePhantomOfTheOpera'' as an opera in front of an opera fan. The fact that the word 'opera' is in the title does not make it one. It is a musical. A Broadway production. The same thing goes for ''Theatre/LesMiserables'' and other such works -- although some, like Les Miserables, may meet some definitions of ''operettas.'' Don't call them operas in front of your opera-loving friends (especially since their true forms are ''novels'')... unless you hate them and want to end the friendship, of course. |
| 198 | ** By all means, love your Sarah Brightman and Il Divo [=CDs=]. But do not call them opera singers. Do not tell opera fans that you like Katherine Jenkins' version of the Habañera the best. Singers like these may sound 'operatic' to non-opera fans, but they are NOT opera singers. They are classical crossover singers, and to actual Opera fans, they are hair-rippingly maddening. Especially because many of them have neither the vocal type nor the skill to sing the opera snippets they choose properly. If you know an opera fan, please do not make them sit through Jackie Evancho, Paul Potts, or any of the other Talent Show 'opera' singers. You will drive them crazier than [[http://www.limelightmagazine.com.au/sites/www.limelightmagazine.com.au/files/Galleries/20121004054758_Emma%20Matthews.jpg Lucia di Lammermoor]]. |
| 199 | ** Opera fans will take umbrage at the stereotype of a fat, ugly woman in a horned helmet. Many, if not most opera chanteuses are [[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Maria_Callas_(La_Traviata).JPG neither fat]], [[http://wuol.org/wp-content/uploads/fleming.jpg nor ugly]]. Some are [[http://www.actors-pictures.com/pictures/anna-netrebko-18.jpg downright]] [[http://elinagaranca.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Garanca_GABO_06.jpg gorgeous]]. |
| 200 | ** A stereotype is that opera is just a bunch of controlled screaming. If you say this, even jokingly, to an opera fan, you will be pulverized and forced to listen to their entire playlist until you concede defeat and tell them that opera is beautiful. To be honest, though, how could anyone call [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h34omCNzK9g this]] screaming? Or [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWOyF1EHJ8c this]]? |
| 201 | ** Opera fans don't like it when every single singer who has a big voice with lots of vibratos is called an "opera singer," regardless of whether or not s/he actually sings opera. Josh Groban and Sarah Brightman are common examples. ''Some'' of them are -- e.g. Broadway legend Creator/KelliOHara, who has also performed leading roles with the Metropolitan Opera, or the West End's Creator/HannahWaddingham, who is fully classically trained thanks to her opera star mother -- but most are not. |
| 202 | * Claiming that Creator/WilliamShakespeare of Stratford-upon-Avon didn't write all those plays. It's excusable to argue that some of his plays had co-authors (there's documented evidence that John Fletcher worked with him on ''The Two Noble Kinsmen'' and the lost ''Cardenio'', and probably ''Henry VIII''), or that the surviving versions of some play texts contain insertions by later writers (one scene from ''Macbeth'' is often thought to have been added by Thomas Middleton). But if you try to argue that Shakespeare was a front for Francis Bacon or Edward de Vere or Emilia Lanier or anyone other than Will himself, be ready for fans and scholars alike to cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war. |
| 203 | * The names of the main characters in ''Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet'' are spelt "Sweeney Todd" (three [=Es=], two [=Ds=]) and "Lovett" (not Lovet, Lovette, Lovatt etc). This is incredibly common online, and drives some fans to ''Epiphany''-level rage. |
| 204 | * ''Theatre/{{Wicked}}'' is ''not'' set in the same canon of ''Film/TheWizardOfOz'' or ''Literature/LandOfOz''. It's not meant to be a canonical story in either universe, but many viewers take it as so. ''Wicked'' is a mishmash of canons (MGM's green-skinned Wicked Witch and Oz being in a separate universe from Kansas, several book-only characters and references, etc) set in [[AlternateContinuity its own continuity.]] Fans of all three incarnations get bitter when people mistake them for one and the same. |
| 205 | [[/folder]] |
| 206 | |
| 207 | [[folder:Theme Parks]] |
| 208 | * Ride/DisneyThemeParks: |
| 209 | ** Whatever you do, don't confuse Disneyland Park with Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom unless you wanna enrage the Disney Parks fandom. Although they're identical and share many of the same attractions, they are different parks in different locations (Disneyland being in Anaheim, California, Magic Kingdom being in Orlando, Florida) and have different experiences and attractions. |
| 210 | ** Try to say any attraction at Walt Disney World is a Disneyland attraction or vice versa. It is a very easy way to annoy and anger both Disney Park fans, as well as the cast members themselves. |
| 211 | ** Walt Disney World is ''not'' just Magic Kingdom, nor is Magic Kingdom called "Walt Disney World". It is a resort with four theme parks[[note]]Magic Kingdom, EPCOT, Hollywood Studios, and Animal Kingdom[[/note]], two water parks[[note]]Typhoon Lagoon and Blizzard Beach. There also used to be a third water park called River Country, which predates both water parks, but it was shut down in 2001[[/note]], a shopping district[[note]]Disney Springs[[/note]] and much more[[note]]such as golf courses, numerous hotels, and the ESPN Wide World of Sports complex, amongst other things[[/note]]. Despite this, many causal visitors continue to refer to Magic Kingdom as Walt Disney World, much to the annoyance of many park fans. In all fairness, this is partially Disney's own fault, as the resort's marketing tends to focus primarily on the Magic Kingdom and not use the actual name of the park, but the resort's name instead, leading to the misconception. |
| 212 | ** Go on, try and say the Disney Parks are just for kids, we dare you, unless you don't wanna anger the ''many'' teen and adult fans of the parks, as well as cast members. Although plenty of things in Disney World are targeted towards kids and the parks are family friendly, they intentionally don't have a set target demographic in mind. In fact, the parks have plenty of things for all age groups, including teens and adults. Especially in Walt Disney World. |
| 213 | [[/folder]] |
| 214 | |
| 215 | [[folder:Toys]] |
| 216 | * Franchise/{{LEGO}}: |
| 217 | ** As [[Webcomic/PennyArcade Gabe]] [[http://www.penny-arcade.com/2003/6/13/ discovered]], fans are all too ready to point out that the plural of LEGO is LEGO. Funnily enough, this rule gets broken in the first ''VideoGame/LEGOIsland'' game when DJ Radio delivers the headline "[=LEGOs=] [[RecycledInSPACE in SPACE!]]".[[note]]Unless it was intended as the contraction "LEGO's", i.e. "''LEGO is'' in SPACE!"[[/note]] The LEGO Group used to specifically make the point on the packaging that they should be called "[[StuckOnBandAidBrand LEGO bricks or toys]]" and not "[=LEGOs=]". They were worried about their trademark becoming genericized, as happened to, say, escalator and linoleum. |
| 218 | * ''Toys/{{BIONICLE}}'': |
| 219 | ** Calling Toa or Matoran "[=BIONICLE=]s" ''will'' result in a massive backlash. Pluralizing the ''title'' will get you obliterated. Don't even think about calling them "Bionicles." |
| 220 | ** There is a reason why ''BIONICLE'' is not under the LEGO section in this folder. Do not refer to ''BIONICLE'' as "that LEGO story" or otherwise try and imply that it is "just a story used to sell toys". |
| 221 | * ''Franchise/MyLittlePony'': |
| 222 | ** Stallions have always existed in the series, with the only exception being G3 of 2003-2009 (until even there ''Twinkle Wish Adventure'' had background colts). Despite this people often say that the franchise, especially G1, is female only and it pisses fans off. |
| 223 | ** G2 never had a cartoon. ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyTales'' is G1. The gens are based on the toys, not how many cartoons are released. |
| 224 | * Toys/BeanieBabies: No, [[http://www.tycollector.com/the-scoop/princess-bear.htm no version]] of the Princess Diana memorial bear is an insanely valuable rarity selling for six- or seven-figure sums. |
| 225 | * Rubik's Cube. NOT "Rubix". |
| 226 | ** [[JustifiedTrope May be done on purpose by particularly prudent companies]], as while Rubik's is effectively a genericized trademark in common speak, actually using "Rubik's" formally [[WritingAroundTrademarks rather than "misspelling" it like this]] may end up being grounds for a lawsuit. |
| 227 | * ''Franchise/{{Tamagotchi}}'': |
| 228 | ** Calling the ''Tamagotchi'' virtual pets "Nano Pets" or "Toys/GigaPets". Both are the names of separate toys that were trying to [[FollowTheLeader cash in on the success]] of ''Tamagotchi''. |
| 229 | ** Similarly, calling either of the aforementioned copycat products, or any others that competed with ''Tamagotchi'' back when it originally released in the 90s, a "Tamagotchi". ''Tamagotchi'' came first and became the catalyst for all those copycat toys. |
| 230 | * {{Toys/Barbie}} is ''not'' a BrainlessBeauty. Many of her countless careers imply, and virtually all tie-in media outright confirms, that Barbie's of above-average intelligence. There's a reason she does everything and does it well. On a similar note, while fashion has always been and always will be a big part of Barbie's image and one of her main interests, it's not all she cares about--again, her various jobs show her having a wide variety of interests and talents. |
| 231 | * For ''Toys/MonsterHigh'', using the wrong pronouns for G3 Frankie is ''not'' a good idea. It's made very clear in both the movie and series that their pronouns are they/them, not she/her like G1 and G2 Frankie. |
| 232 | * ''Franchise/{{Transformers}}'': Do not refer to G1 Overkill as a "tyrannosaurus rex". He is a ceratosaurus. |
| 233 | [[/folder]] |
| 234 | |
| 235 | [[folder:Universities and Colleges]] |
| 236 | * Auburn University's sports teams are the Tigers, not the Eagles or the War Eagles. "War Eagle" is a cheer that Auburn uses, and the name of its fight song, but it has nothing to do with the team itself. The school itself even has [[http://www.auburntigers.com/trads/09_auburn_war_eagle.html a webpage]] pointing this out, and explains the UrbanLegends and other stories about where the term is believed to have come from. |
| 237 | * Fans of Stanford University's sports teams will not hesitate to loudly and frequently remind you that their team is the Stanford ''Cardinal'', not the Cardinal'''s'''. That is, they are Cardinal, the shade of red, not Cardinals, the birds (or Catholic leaders). Gods help you if you suggest that their mascot is a cardinal.[[note]]It's a sycamore tree, which is incidentally not cardinal-colored.[[/note]] |
| 238 | * New York University's mascot is a bobcat. Their sports teams, however, are the 'Violets'. Calling the teams 'the Bobcats' is a surefire way to identify someone as an incoming freshman or non-NYU student, and draw ire from current students and alumni. |
| 239 | * Johns Hopkins University and Johns Hopkins Hospital often gets their name misspelled as "John Hopkins" because, while "John" is the more common first name, the founder's first name was taken from his great-grandmother's maiden name, Johns. Even reputable media sources like ''The New York Times'' [[https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1260405113794908160 have made the error]]. Students, alumni, faculty, and college lacrosse fans often have to say, "It's ''Johnssssss'' Hopkins", and even have official university merchandise stating this. |
| 240 | * Harvard University ''wasn't'' founded by John Harvard--he was just an early donor. While there ''is'' a famous statue on Harvard's campus naming him as the university's founder, Harvard teachers and alums (and most other Cambridge locals) will mercilessly mock anyone who actually believes it. It's nicknamed "The Statue of the Three Lies" for a reason.[[note]] It's the Statue of the '''Three''' Lies because it also gets the year of Harvard's founding wrong, and the man in the statue isn't even John Harvard (it was made more than two centuries after his death, and nobody knows what he actually looked like).[[/note]] |
| 241 | * Syracuse University's mascot is Otto the Orange. Students and alumni are quick to remind people that Otto is an representation of the ''color'' orange and that Otto is ''not'' an anthropomorphic fruit of the same name. |
| 242 | [[/folder]] |
| 243 | |
| 244 | [[folder:Visual Novels]] |
| 245 | * Referring to the ''VisualNovel/AceAttorney'' series as simply ''Phoenix Wright'' is not a good idea unless you're specifically talking about the games starring him, as there are other protagonists such as Apollo Justice and Miles Edgeworth that have starred in their own games in the series. |
| 246 | * Saying that ''VisualNovel/DiesIrae'' glorifies Nazism simply based on the fact that is has UsefulNotes/ReinhardHeydrich as its over-the-top [[LargeHam hammy]] [[BigBad main villain]] tend to often be enough to seriously irritate the fanbase. That despite the fact that the story portrays him and those who are morally aligned with him as nothing short of monsters and failures of human beings. |
| 247 | * ''VisualNovel/DokiDokiLiteratureClub'' |
| 248 | ** Do not call it a ripoff of ''VisualNovel/YouAndMeAndHer'', as while the latter can be considered one of the inspirations for the former, the only things the two really have in common are that [[spoiler:they're both {{Deconstruction}}[=s=] of DatingSim[=s=] where the main villains have MediumAwareness and meta aspects]], and in fact do things quite differently from one another. Conversely, do not say that ''Doki Doki Literature Club!'' [[OlderThanTheyThink came first]]. |
| 249 | ** Saying that the negative traits that the girls have were [[spoiler:solely caused by Monika's rewriting]] is a bad idea, as it's firmly established that they already had such traits and [[spoiler:Monika at most only amplified them]]. |
| 250 | ** Saying that [[spoiler:Natsuki's father being {{abusive|Parents}}]] is only a rumor or a fan theory will cause fans to bring up that the game itself all but explicitly states it to be canon. |
| 251 | * ''VisualNovel/DramaticalMurder'': |
| 252 | ** Unless you have a death wish, '''do not''' bring up the topic of Mink's route and whether or not Aoba was suffering from UsefulNotes/StockholmSyndrome. No matter which side of the argument you're on, it won't be pretty. This has lessened since the release of Re:Connect, which expanded upon Mink's character and motivations, but his route is still very controversial. |
| 253 | ** The [[MemeticMutation 'you fuck the dog!']] joke. Newer fans (and non-fans) will probably laugh, but longtime fans will send [[DiscreditedMeme death glares]] your way. Some fans find it especially frustrating because a number of people outside of the fandom have taken the joke seriously and think that the visual novel actually contains bestiality [[labelnote:Spoilers]]The reason behind the joke is that Ren, Aoba's Allmate, who takes shape as a dog, has a route and in the good ending he has sex with Aoba, in his online form[[/labelnote]]. |
| 254 | ** Saying something along the lines of "I've been playing this thing for several hours now, where's all the yaoi sex?" will get you worse glares. ''VisualNovel/DramaticalMurder'' ''is'' a BL game, but there aren't any explicit scenes until the latter half of the story (near the ending in most routes), so needless to say, they aren't a major part of the game. A lot of people start playing purely to watch the H-scenes, completely ignoring the actual plotline and dumbing down the characters, to the ire of fans. |
| 255 | * ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''; thanks to the massive success of the anime adaptation of ''Literature/FateZero'' causing a NewbieBoom for the franchise, it's not uncommon for anime-only fans to view it as the peak of the franchise. That alone doesn't quite ruffle the feathers of the visual novel fans as much as their tendency to judge the adaptations of the original routes on the basis of "which is the superior ''sequel'' to Zero." For context, ''Zero'' was a prequel light novel released about 3 years after the VN to flesh out the vaguely-described events of the previous Holy Grail War, drawing heavily on characters and themes which don't show up in the VN until [[DoorStopper tens of hours]] into the story (leading fans to assume ''Zero'' invented these elements), and [[SeriesContinuityError contradicts the VN in enough small but significant ways]][[note]]Most notably Saber in ''Fate/stay night'' had never met an Einzbern before, and while she ''did'' value chivalry she was [[KeepingSecretsSucks very guarded about information]] and [[PragmaticHero willing to follow dirty tactics if necessary (even proposing some herself)]]. Meanwhile in ''Zero'' she works directly for an Einzbern, and her devotion to honour is {{Flanderized}} to the point of [[HonorBeforeReason giving out secrets unprompted and fighting at a handicap for the sake of fairness]]. The characterisation change has in-universe [[JustifiedTrope justification]] as her becoming more desperate after her failure in ''Zero'', which has ApprovalOfGod; the Einzbern change does not.[[/note]] that official media have gone back and forth on whether it's even set in the same universe (eventually settling on [[BroadStrokes "it's still 95% what happened, so just treat it as canon and ignore the parts that don't fit"]]). So fans treating ''Zero'' as if it is the "original" series understandably will test the patience of long-time visual novel readers. |
| 256 | * ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry'': |
| 257 | ** Dumbing down by describing it as the "killer lolis" series is a thorn in the side of many fans. |
| 258 | ** Calling Rena {{yandere}} annoys her fans. While she can be violently overprotective of her friends and father, it's not the main reason behind her behavior. Shion is the closest to a yandere that the series has. |
| 259 | ** Mistaking the twins Shion and Mion for one another. [[spoiler:When they were younger, they used to swap identities for fun, and so that Shion could experience the kind of life Mion enjoyed as the family head. Unfortunately, one of these swaps occurred on the day that Mion was meant to be given a ceremonial tattoo on her back to signify her position as heir. Thus, the twins were forced to forever adopt the identity of the other, making this issue even more convoluted.]] |
| 260 | * While ''VisualNovel/KatawaShoujo'' may have an unsettling premise for featuring a ThemedHarem of physically-disabled love interests, it's not a DeadBabyComedy, even if the source material (a set of joke character designs which the game strongly departed from) is. |
| 261 | * Creator/KeyVisualArts: |
| 262 | ** Calling the characters lolis. Whatever the art style may suggest, all the haremettes are in high school and so are the protagonists. |
| 263 | ** Specific to ''VisualNovel/{{Kanon}}'', the widespread use of "uguu" by detractors of {{moe}} in general, many of whom have never even heard of ''Kanon'', gets annoying. The fact that about five minutes passes from the first time Ayu says 'uguu' to [[AffectionateParody the first time the game makes fun of the whole thing]] (and even less time in the anime) [[RedundantParody is a big factor here]]. "[[MemeticMutation AM I KAWAII UGUU?]]" is right out. |
| 264 | * For the ''Sakura'' series of games created by Winged Cloud, speaking positively about the competence of any of the male protagonists (especially Seiji from ''Sakura Beach'') is not recommended. However, it may be acceptable when it comes to ones from the more recent games (such as Akira from ''Sakura Agent''). |
| 265 | * Regarding ''VisualNovel/{{Shuffle}}'', do not refer to Kaede as a {{Yandere}} if you're only talking about the visual novels rather than the [[Anime/{{Shuffle}} anime]], as she was only made into one in the anime. |
| 266 | * ''VisualNovel/YosugaNoSora'' |
| 267 | ** Do not say that Sora was pregnant with Haruka's child in the fandisc ''Haruka Na Sora'', not just because of the BrotherSisterIncest, but because it was a rumor that was eventually disproven (for a time, it was treated as fact on the series' wiki, but no longer is). |
| 268 | ** No, Akira and Kazuha do not become a yuri couple at any point or route in the story, as this is also a rumor that was once treated as fact on the series' wiki before being disproven. The closest we get to this is a fantasy Haruka has at one point in the [[Anime/YosugaNoSora anime]]. |
| 269 | * ''VisualNovel/ZeroEscape'': |
| 270 | ** ''VisualNovel/NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors'' fans get pretty annoyed when people call the game the "video game version of ''Franchise/{{Saw}}''", which is a rather bad berserk button to have when this is pretty much what every professional reviewer who reviewed the game said. Hardcore fans however will point out that "''999'' is much more original than ''Saw''" and that "if you actually pay attention to the game's entire plot, it's actually nothing like ''Saw''". In actual fact, the game was heavily inspired, not by ''Saw'', but by Eastern horror movies, in which the theme is less about sadistic people inducing violence, and more about sadistically inducing fear. The theme of the game, going through a game involving puzzle-filled rooms, has been compared to ''Saw'', but as fans are quick to point out, the actual puzzles and entire set up for why they exist in the first place is nothing like it. The same goes for its sequel ''VisualNovel/VirtuesLastReward''. |
| 271 | [[/folder]] |
| 272 | |
| 273 | [[folder:Webcomics]] |
| 274 | * Referring to a Korean or Chinese webtoon as a "manga". You'll get away with calling them a "manhwa" or "manhua", but calling them "manga" annoys both manga fans and webtoon fans. |
| 275 | * Now-defunct comic hub ''Platform/Fireball20XL'' had quite a few of these relating to the many members and artists on the site, included here for posterity. |
| 276 | ** Psyguy (or Psy) is the name of the author. Psycho is the name of his AuthorAvatar. Don't mix them up. And don't spell it "Spycho" either. |
| 277 | ** Mr. O.M.A. the character is NOT the AuthorAvatar of Mr. O.M.A. the author. While he was originally created as such, Mr. O.M.A. soon regretted that decision and now considers Mr. O.M.A. the character as his own separate character. He actually considers Big Nasty his AuthorAvatar, given that they share the same name (Alan Solivan) and that the nickname "Big Nasty" came from a nickname the real Alan received in school. |
| 278 | ** It's Jenifer Irwin, not Jennifer, and yes, she is a girl. And her AuthorAvatar is not a fox, it's a fox-cat hybrid. |
| 279 | ** Similarly, Wil Brendel. One L. Not "Will". You will get mocked by fans and by Wil himself for calling him Will. |
| 280 | ** Cailen Crow's comic is ''not'' a furry comic, and Cailen himself is not a furry. His characters are supposed to be anthropomorphic animals à la WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes. Also, his avatar is not Daffy Duck. He's a crow. |
| 281 | ** Do not ask where you can read ''Chaos Diamonds 1'' or ''Chaos Diamonds 2''. There is no such thing. The comic is called ''Chaos Diamonds 3'' because there are three Chaos Diamonds in the story. |
| 282 | * ''Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt'': The third girl from the photo is ''not'' Jones, and she is ''not'' related to Gamma in any way. Fans continued to speculate to the contrary, even though [[WordOfGod Tom]] {{Jossed}} those theories, within hours of their first proposal, then put [[TheRant a note to that effect below the comic]]. At one point, a forum regular who should have known better suggested that this speculation should be a ban-worthy offense. This specific line of WildMassGuessing seems to have stopped now that it's been unambiguously confirmed in-comic that the photo girl and Jones are different people. |
| 283 | * ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}'' contains music created by Creator/TobyFox, but he was far from the only person who did music from the comic. |
| 284 | * ''Webcomic/LasLindas'' author Soul Kat has a big BerserkButton related to this trope due to so many people screwing up Davin Preacher's name, instead calling him Devin. |
| 285 | * Loldwell.com features a number of comic strips themed around different iterations of the concept: [[http://loldwell.com/?p=453 1]], [[http://loldwell.com/?p=605 2]], [[http://loldwell.com/?p=1006 3]], [[http://loldwell.com/?p=2303 4]] |
| 286 | * On the fora of ''Webcomic/LookingForGroup'', anyone ignorant enough to post anything even hinting that they think the comic is a ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' story happening in Azeroth will get beaten up, crucified, eaten and shot, in that order. Despite the fact that the comic started as a Warcraft parody (though only for a very brief period) and incredibly obviously took significant inspiration from the games. |
| 287 | * ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'''s BigBad Xykon has to deal not just with random members of the community, but even [[NoFourthWall characters in the comic]] spelling his name wrong (with a Z). He can even tell when you misspell it in a ''[[PsmithPsyndrome speech balloon]]''. And he will [[MurderIsTheBestSolution kill you for it]]. |
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| 290 | [[folder:Web Original]] |
| 291 | * Asking "what if Operation Sealion had been successful" or even mentioning the "Unmentionable Sea Mammal" in a non-ironic way on Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom is sure to end in much banging of heads against walls in frustration at the prospect of having to explain to yet another noob just why it could not, under any circumstances, have worked. |
| 292 | * ''Platform/DeviantArt'' has a reputation on some other websites as being for fetish art and/or only being for bad artists. While the site legitimately does have a large collection of fetish art, most of the userbase consists of people who do not draw this kind of artwork, and will likely get offended at this suggestion because [[CowboyBebopAtHisComputer taking just a little time to browse profiles there will tell you this.]] As for "being full of bad art", SturgeonsLaw applies the same on [=DeviantArt=] as it does everywhere else. |
| 293 | * The villain of the first ''WebVideo/DontHugMeImScared'' is named Sketchbook, not Notepad. And they are not female, their gender is ambiguous (though the latter isn't helped by them having a female voice actor). |
| 294 | * Overlapping with {{Video Game}}s, never say that Skid & Pump, Pico, or Tankman originated from ''VideoGame/FridayNightFunkin'' to longtime fans of Creator/SrPelo or Platform/{{Newgrounds}} unless you want to become the focus target of a flame war where everyone will call you out for not knowing their origins. |
| 295 | * For ''WebVideo/GameTheory'', do not treat any such theory as canonical fact to its respective franchise, especially if it contradicts that franchise's canon. Remember, it's called "Game ''Theory''", not "Game Fact" for a reason. |
| 296 | * ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'': |
| 297 | ** DO NOT mistake any well-known fan-made character as a canon character. At best, you'll drown in disappointment but at least other fans are willing to simply correct you on that. At worst, you'll be shouted at by the more hostile fans, especially if they don't like the idea of fan characters in general (which also isn't helped by the idea of [[OfficialFanSubmittedContent Truffles's Video Bomb Competition]]). |
| 298 | ** During the post-TV series era, saying that Flippy has fully gotten over his flip-outs was enough to garner the wrath of fans. It didn't help that the next time a flipped-out Flippy appears, it's only in Flaky's imagination ("Without a Hitch"). The fanbase has calmed down since the release of the Love Bite short "On My Mind", which depicts Flippy flipping out. |
| 299 | ** Character concept-wise, mentioning that the cast is a complete rip-off of ''Franchise/CareBears'' characters will cause massive backlash. Doesn't help that there's one exact case where someone made said comparison and, judging by the disabled comment section, that person succeeded in evoking the HTF fans' wrath. |
| 300 | ** For the more serious fans that have done their research, hearing [=FatKat=] being referred to as a permanent part of the cast is their BerserkButton. No, [=FatKat=] is not a canon ''HTF'' character. No, he's not a fan character either. He's a guest character (for a single HTF Break, mind you) who is simply an ''HTF'' version of an animation studio's mascot. Unfortunately, fans still make this error from time to time. |
| 301 | ** Referring to Flippy and Fliqpy as the same character will grate on quite a few nerves. From a physical standpoint, [[SplitPersonality they are,]] but given the sheer night-and-day difference between the two, trying to blame Flippy for something that Fliqpy did can earn you some rather harsh looks. |
| 302 | * ''Franchise/{{Hellaverse}}'': |
| 303 | ** In general, a very easy way to make a Hellaverse fan extremely mad and defensive is to claim that [[AnimatedShockComedy the overall humor of the universe consists primarily of low-effort rapid-fire swearing and sex jokes]] on par with shows like ''WesternAnimation/{{Brickleberry}}''. While it is true that the Hellaverse is known for its extreme VulgarHumor, saying this to a fan is guaranteed to entail a lecture on how there are many different types of dark and raunchy humor that it displays and invite comparisons to other works which have just as much if not ''more'' profanity and risque humor (''Anime/PantyAndStockingWithGarterbelt'' coming up a lot) which never have this accusation leveled at them. |
| 304 | ** ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss'': No matter what anyone says, the writers did not deliberately rewrite Stella in Season 2 to be [[DerailingLoveInterests nastier and crueler to Stolas in order to retroactively justify Stolas' affair]]. Claiming this to a fan will have them point out the [[{{Foreshadowing}} numerous hints in the first season]] that Stella was rotten to the core and the writers had always intended it. |
| 305 | * ''WebAnimation/HomestarRunner'': |
| 306 | ** It's Strong Bad, not Strongbad.[[labelnote:*]]Hence, he and his brothers being referred to collectively as "The Brothers Strong"[[/labelnote]] And he doesn't wear boxing gloves; those are his hands. |
| 307 | ** The Cheat's name is ''always'' said with [[SpellMyNameWithAThe the integral article]]. Even if it would make no grammatical sense in context, his name is always "The Cheat", never just "Cheat". This still applies even when it's not used as a proper noun (i.e. [[ADogNamedDog his species is a The Cheat]]). Same goes for his old-timey counterpart, The Sneak. |
| 308 | ** Do not say that The King of Town is Marzipan's father. That was a [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness very old bit of story information]] that was {{Ret Con}}ned ages ago. When [[MythologyGag hearing about the old info in-universe]], the King of Town was completely perplexed. |
| 309 | ** Saying the ''WesternAnimation/RobotChicken'' sketch "Attack on Homestar Runner" was an official crossover is not a good idea; even if it traces assets from the official ''Homestar'' cartoons. Even Strong Bad [[https://twitter.com/StrongBadActual/status/942906057034256386?lang=en expressed his frustration]] about this one on Platform/{{Twitter}}. |
| 310 | --->'''Strong Bad:''' Nobody paid me nothing or asked permission or anything. I mostly hate chicken. Especially... in a pan. |
| 311 | * The greater [[FanWorks/{{Minecraft}} MCYT]] super-fandom: |
| 312 | ** MCYT fanfiction is ''not'' RealPersonFic unless stated otherwise. While [[TheDanza most MCYT characters have the same or a similar name with the content creators that portray them]], MCYT fans are always quick to point out that their fan-works, shippy or otherwise, are made based on the creators' ''roleplay'' characters and not the real-life people (much like [=D&D=]-style roleplaying). Although there ''are'' a minority of fans who engage in ActorShipping and RealPersonFic-writing, ''most fans do not'' and will adamantly clarify that their fan-works are written with the fictional roleplay characters in mind; even the creators openly refer to their roleplay personas as characters on social media. |
| 313 | ** Being a part of the greater MCYT fandom does ''not'' equate to being a part of the ''WebVideo/DreamSMP'' fandom. Yes, the ''WebVideo/DreamSMP'' has had one of the biggest sub-fandoms within MCYT circles in its prime, and has a strong [[FriendlyFandoms fandom overlap]] with other servers and their storylines; however, ignoring the existence of said other servers -- most notably ''WebVideo/{{Hermitcraft}}'', the ''WebVideo/EmpiresSMP'', and the [[WebVideo/LifeSMP Life series]] -- is a surefire way to anger thousands, if not millions on social media. |
| 314 | ** Being a ''WebVideo/DreamSMP'' fan does not equate being a WebVideo/{{Dream}} Team fan either; while there is certainly ''some'' overlap, many DSMP fans dislike the controversies that Dream has been involved in and prefer to distance themselves from him and his friends. |
| 315 | ** [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs In a combination of the above two]], not all MCYT fans are WebVideo/{{Dream}} Team fans, and just because a creator has ''interacted'' with Dream (if at all) does not mean they are friends or get along well, especially when the sole, superficial thing they have in common is that they both make Minecraft-based content. Some fans go as far as to point out a random thirteen-year-old posting a silly video of them playing Minecraft on [=YouTube=] would already qualify as a "Minecraft [=YouTuber=]", so it's an egregious error to conflate the term "MCYT" (albeit now expanded to include livestreaming and other video platforms) with the Dream Team. |
| 316 | ** Not all Minecraft-based content creators are "racist white boys" (cis-het status optional). Make this mistake and be prepared to have any fans within earshot slowly and methodologically list a plethora of creators who do not fall under these categories -- creators of colour and/or those who do not speak English as a first language (particularly following the advent of the ''WebVideo/{{QSMP}}'' and the subsequent integration of international MCYT fandoms), female (or otherwise non-male) creators, LGBTQ+ creators, etc. |
| 317 | * ''Website/{{Neopets}}'': |
| 318 | ** The site was never run by Scientologists. While it's true that a major investor early in the site's life was a Scientologist, and said major investor tried to turn the site [[AuthorTract into Scientology propaganda]], it didn't actually succeed, as the staff fought the attempts to the very end and none of it ever made it onto the site. |
| 319 | ** ''Neopets'' and ''Neopets Metaverse'' are not the same website or the same community. In fact, the two, [[DuelingShows staff]] and [[FandomRivalry community]] alike, are [[FanHater extremely hostile]] towards one another, the former overwhelmingly against the crypto-based business model of the latter while resenting being MisBlamed for being responsible for its creation, and the latter openly mocking the former for being, in their eyes, blinded by NostalgiaGoggles. Just because the two use the same IP does not mean they have the same audience or creators. |
| 320 | * ''Platform/{{Newgrounds}}'': Don't assume that Newgrounds still runs and accepts only Adobe Flash. Even though it does run Ruffle to preserve the older stuff, they have long prepared for the death of Flash since roughly 2016 and have rolled out a video player since 2013. |
| 321 | * ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic'' employs AlterEgoActing, and while the show is a vehicle for Creator/DougWalker's opinions (and it's implied in early episodes that Critic's name is also Doug), Critic's attitude and beliefs are often deliberately exaggerated for comic effect. Referring to Critic as if he just ''is'' Doug Walker and not a character in his own right will really piss off fans, especially given that ''WebVideo/ToBoldlyFlee'' made it a ''[[RageAgainstTheAuthor plot point]]'' that Doug and Critic are two different entities. |
| 322 | * ''VideoGame/NovelAI:'' No, the image generator does not trace, or read from a database of images, or cut and paste into a collage. That's simply not how the technology works. [[https://blog.novelai.net/the-magic-behind-novelaidiffusion-b4797e0d27b2?gi=95b2134e5ad9 It's not even close to how it works]]. The persistent misinformation surrounding this has led to driving a sharp wedge between the community and [[FanHater people who think the community is nothing but art thieves and NFT minters]]. |
| 323 | * ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'': |
| 324 | ** Claiming that ''RWBY'' is anime or implying that it's a Japanese production. The show does [[{{Animesque}} draw heavy inspiration from anime,]] but it's made by the American Creator/RoosterTeeth, although it ''is'' [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff extremely popular in Japan,]] to the point of having [[Manga/RWBY2015 official]] [[Manga/RWBYOfficialMangaAnthology manga]] [[Manga/RWBYTheOfficialManga adaptations]], and a professional Japanese dub that aired on TV, and [[Anime/RWBYIceQueendom an anime adaptation]]. |
| 325 | ** Don't refer to any of the heroes as a "Hunter". The masculine and gender-neutral term is "Huntsman", with its feminine counterpart being "Huntress". The only official use of "Hunter" alone is in reference to Ren's father, who was a hunter in the more traditional sense of the word. |
| 326 | ** Regarding [[spoiler:Pyrrha Nikos' death at the end of Volume 3]], do not say that the writers decided to have that happen in order to help make the show darker, as it turns out Creator/MontyOum himself had always intended for [[spoiler: Pyrrha to eventually die]] as early as when the series began. |
| 327 | * ''WebVideo/ScottTheWoz'': Scott's catchphrase is "Hey all, Scott here", not "Hey y'all, Scott here". [[https://twitter.com/ScottTheWoz/status/928697948321517576 You have no excuse for getting this wrong]]. This misconception even gets referenced as a quick joke in the 200th episode. |
| 328 | * Website/SCPFoundation: |
| 329 | ** For really entertaining discussions, just try to say how SCP-173 is a rip-off of the [[Series/DoctorWho Weeping Angels]]. |
| 330 | ** Don't call it "SPC". That stands for [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/spc-3284-j "Shark-Punching Center"]]. |
| 331 | ** Most who read the SCP wiki in-depth are forgiving if someone assumes the SCP Foundation is primarily horror, given how many iconic [=SCPs=] are horror-based [[note]]mostly due to AdaptationDisplacement from [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-087 the SCP-087 game]], ''[[VideoGame/SCPContainmentBreach Containment Breach]]'', and ''SCP: Secret Laboratory''[[/note]], and will offer a simple correction. However, claiming that the site was always meant to be horror and complaining about certain [=SCPs=] not being scary will get a much more negative response. |
| 332 | * Franchise/{{The Slender Man|Mythos}}: |
| 333 | ** Being mistaken about the origin of the mythos. No, it was not originally a {{Creepypasta}}, although many Creepypastas involving him have been written since his creation. No, ''WebVideo/MarbleHornets'' did not create him, though they are the primary reason as to his popularity,[[note]]their antagonist's name is officially ''[[IAmNotShazam The Operator]]'', and referring to him as The Slender Man is another, milder example of this trope[[/note]] and neither did ''VideoGame/{{Slender}}''. The Slender Man was created on a Website/SomethingAwful forum thread, as part of the "Let's Create Paranormal" story writing contest. |
| 334 | ** Referring to the main creature as just [[IAmNotShazam Slender]]. This occurs most often with fans who were introduced to the mythos through the game of that name. |
| 335 | ** Calling the creature Slenderman likewise draws ire from some fans. Referring to him as Slender Man as if it's his name is similarly a point of agitation. THE Slender Man is just a description of his appearance -- a tall, gaunt being that looks vaguely like a man. |
| 336 | ** Calling Hoody or Masky "proxies" will get you treated to a nice lengthy explanation of how the term wasn't used in ''Marble Hornets'' and neither should be considered as such. Your best bet is to only use the term "proxy" when talking about ''WebVideo/DarkHarvest'' (the series from which the term originated) or ''WebVideo/TribeTwelve''. |
| 337 | * ''WebAnimation/{{S|upermarioglitchy4sSuperMario64Bloopers}}MG4'': |
| 338 | ** Insisting that the "classic" (2011-16) videos are nothing but ValuesDissonance can cause anger from older fans, especially considering the series' ''two most popular videos'' ("Who let the chomp out?" and "Freddy's spaghettiria") are from that era, and, aside from a few lines and the title of the latter video's sub-series, are perfectly harmless when it comes to dated humor. In addition, the dated humor wasn't ''just'' limited to the classic era, as slurs and jokes that are now considered dated and/or offensive were still made all the way up to 2018 ("Guards N' Retards: Da bomb" and "Lost in the Woods" being just 2 examples), so claiming that ''only'' the classic era had these jokes and is bad for it can also garner criticism. |
| 339 | ** ''WebAnimation/MetaRunner'' is ''not'' a SpinOff of ''[=SMG4=]'' as CommonKnowledge often insinuate - it's actually the opposite, as [=SMG4=]'s Tari was solely created as a teaser for ''Meta Runner'' [[EarlyBirdCameo prior to its official announcement]], with [=SMG4=]'s Tari being an AlternateUniverse counterpart of ''Meta Runner'''s Tari. This was done solely to avoid having the [=SMG4=] fanbase being thrown off by an otherwise completely unrelated show. |
| 340 | ** Don't assume that [=SMG4=] started the idea of ''VideoGame/SuperMario64'' [[WebAnimation/SuperMario64Bloopers machinima bloopers]]. [[OlderThanTheyThink They were done years before]] [=SMG4=] came along. Also, don't assume that X, [=FM=], [=MarioMario54321=], and the like are original characters; they are real ''Mario 64'' machinimists who also use [[PaletteSwap Palette Swaps]] of Mario as their AuthorAvatar. |
| 341 | ** On the flip side, if [=SMG4=] was your first introduction to the ''Mario'' series, don't think Spike is canonically named "Fishy Boopkins" or think that any of the {{Original Character}}s such as Tari, Saiko, and Shroomy are official ''Mario'' characters around ''Mario'' fans. |
| 342 | * A side effect of the ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' franchise's infamously [[BrokenBase divided fanbase]] with a significant VocalMinority of [[FanDumb unpleasant fans]], is that many viewers took WebVideo/{{MarioTehPlumber}} seriously during his earlier years on Platform/YouTube. Since then, it has become increasingly accepted that [=MarioTehPlumber=] was a {{Troll}} whose opinions are either fabricated or [[AccentuateTheNegative exaggerated]], and [[PoesLaw taking his videos seriously]] nowadays will elicit eye-rolling from viewers, especially those who [[SoBadItsGood enjoy the demented hilarity of his exaggerated persona]] (which is admittedly his entire fanbase now, more or less). |
| 343 | * ''WebAnimation/TerribleWritingAdvice'' discusses some examples in its "Reboot of Reboots" video, in which, after J.P. [[SarcasmMode sarcastically]] tells writers to acquiesce to disingenuous wannabe-film critics on clickbait aggregate websites so as to avoid such criticisms for the reboot, there is a shot of three characters holding up picket signs alleging bad-faith accusations against ''WesternAnimation/BeautyAndTheBeast'', ''Literature/{{Dune}}'', and ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'', respectively, all of which can be disproved just by watching or reading the works themselves: that Belle has UsefulNotes/StockholmSyndrome, that Paul is a white savior, and that LOTR is an allegory for UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. |
| 344 | * ''WebVideo/VShojo'': Do not assume that Zentreya is [[{{GIRL}} actually a guy]] because she uses a text-to-speech device, as there's no evidence that proves she is and it's considered offensive to both the character and the person behind them to say such. |
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