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7	->''"Within the reality of one specific fiction, how do other fictions exist?"''
8	-->-- '''Chuck Klosterman'''
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12	When [[ShoutOut pop culture references]] are made within a fictional work, it can create a sort of paradox to the audience where an actor playing a character ''within the work'' is also acknowledged ''to be an actor'' who has done work elsewhere, creating an assumption that they are somehow a different person from the actor despite [[IdenticalStranger looking identical]]. If a Celebrity Paradox is in play it assumes the current work is not a part of greater cultural landscape; any characters within are real people and not actors with a separate career. For that reason, this is generally barred by AsHimself performances.
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14	Normally, WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief causes the audience to ignore the idea that [[Franchise/StarTrek Spock]] looks a lot like Creator/LeonardNimoy, but if ''Star Trek'' makes a reference to another work Nimoy was involved with, the paradox comes into play as the audience may start questioning if Nimoy exists in the fictional universe and had a similar career, or if the ''Star Trek'' show also exists within the InUniverse Star Trek setting. They may also start questioning if other actors from that work are going to show up. Compare MutuallyFictional and RecursiveCanon.
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16	This is a trope that can easily get out of hand, as it can be used as a form of SixDegreesOfKevinBacon ie "Work A references Actor Y, who is married to Actor Z who played a guest role on Work A three years prior" and then it just starts getting silly. Ideal examples should focus on major cast and crew and a direct connection between the parent work and the referenced work.
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18	It's important to note that actor-as-character-X exists in both Work X and Work Y ''is not'' an example of this trope, there needs to be a link between the fictional world and the real-life media. This disqualifies {{Sequel}}s, TheVerse and SharedUniverse where an actor may play the same role. Similarly an actor playing different roles in TheVerse is YouLookFamiliar. Otherwise you've just got internal {{Consistency}}.
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20	See also OnlySoManyCanadianActors and DifferentWorldDifferentMovies.
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22	!!Example paradoxes:
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24	[[index]]
25	* CelebrityParadox/AnimeAndManga
26	* CelebrityParadox/ComicBooks
27	* CelebrityParadox/{{Film}}
28	* CelebrityParadox/LiveActionTV
29	* CelebrityParadox/VideoGames
30	* CelebrityParadox/{{Webcomics}}
31	* CelebrityParadox/WebOriginal
32	* CelebrityParadox/WesternAnimation
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37	[[folder:Advertising]]
38	* The Nespresso ad campaign stars Creator/GeorgeClooney {{as Himself}} and Creator/JohnMalkovich as God. The former never comments on the resemblance.
39	* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v52FLMOPSig&feature=plcp This political ad]] for Bridget Mary [=McCormack=] (a candidate for the UsefulNotes/{{Michigan}} [[UsefulNotes/AmericanCourts Supreme Court]]) -- besides causing {{Squee}} for fans seeing the cast of ''Series/TheWestWing'' together again -- mentions that candidate [=McCormack=] is the sister of Creator/MaryMcCormack. Of course, Mary [=McCormack=] played Kate Harper on the show and in the ad... so CJ naturally has never heard of her. Lampshaded by this (at 2:12):
40	-->'''CJ:''' Quick question...\
41	'''Josh:''' Who's Mary [=McCormack=]?\
42	'''CJ:''' Who's [=McCormack=]?\
43	'''Kate Harper:''' (''as she randomly walks in'') No clue, [[ButHeSoundsHandsome but something tells me]] she's ''delightful'', whip-smart, possibly hot... hard to say, really. C'mon, we're [[WalkAndTalk walking and talking]].
44	* If the ''[[Film/XMenFilmSeries X-Men]]'' movies were in the same continuity as Creator/SamRaimi's ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'', some of the mutants must have wondered why J. Jonah Jameson was training insurance agents (for Farmers insurance).
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47	[[folder:Audio Plays]]
48	* The AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho audio drama ''Pier Pressure'', set in the 1930s, features a young actor called Billy. References to his films make it quite clear that this is young [[Creator/WilliamHartnell Billy Hartnell]], some thirty years before playing the First Doctor in the ''Series/DoctorWho'' TV series.
49	* ''AudioPlay/TheSandman2020'':
50	** In the adaptation of "Brief Lives", the club Delirium visits at the start features Music/ToriAmos's "Tear in Your Hand", which references [[ComicBook/TheSandman1989 the original comic]] and writer/narrator Creator/NeilGaiman.
51	** The adaptation of "Worlds' End" sees Creator/WilWheaton as Brant Tucker. In the final part, Brant's travelling companion/co-worker Charlene, says that the concept of a reality storm sounds like "something from ''Franchise/StarTrek''" -- which Wheaton was a part of, playing Dr. Crusher's son, Wesley, on ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration''.
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54	[[folder:Comic Strips]]
55	* When Bill Watterson interviewed with the L.A. Times about ''ComicStrip/CalvinAndHobbes'', he drew [[http://www.platypuscomix.net/otherpeople/calvinlatimes.jpg this]] doodle to accompany it. (Calvin and Hobbes appear to have no idea who the interviewer is.) More such rare drawings can be found [[http://www.platypuscomix.net/otherpeople/watterson.html here.]]
56	* ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}'':
57	** One cartoon has Lucy watching the Rose Bowl parade on New Year's Day when Linus enters, asking "Has the Grand Marshal gone by yet?" to which Lucy replies, "Yeah, you just missed him - but he wasn't anyone you ever heard of!" Naturally, the Grand Marshal that year had been Charles Schulz himself.
58	** A borderline example from the 1950s: Snoopy is doing impersonations, and Charlie Brown whispers to Schroeder that his dog is going to be imitating [[NoCelebritiesWereHarmed "Mssp Msss"]]. Snoopy then squints his eyes and rolls his dog ears up into mouse ears, looking exactly like...Mickey Mouse. [[TakeThat ("Frightening, isn't it?" Charlie asks Schroeder.)]] What's amusing about this is that Charles Schulz was offered a job at Disney early in his career!
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61	[[folder:Literature]]
62	* ''Literature/EightySeventhPrecinct'': A couple of books contain references to other works written by [=McBain=] under his real name of Creator/EvanHunter:
63	** ''Axe'':
64	-->"Who wrote ''Strangers When We Meet''?."
65	** The opening line of ''The Blackboard Jungle'' is quoted in ''Killer's Payoff''.
66	* In Creator/AgathaChristie novel ''Literature/TheBodyInTheLibrary'', little Peter the murder mystery enthusiast rattles off his list of favorite authors, and naturally one of his favorites is Agatha Christie.
67	* In the ''Series/HappyDays'' licensed novel ''Who Killed the Fonz?'' Richie Cunningham' career as a screenwriter runs parallel to Creator/RonHoward, who played Richie on the show proper, and went on to direct several movies. Without Howard as an actor, Creator/GeorgeLucas doesn't direct ''Film/AmericanGraffiti''.
68	* The novelization of ''Film/OnceUponATimeInHollywood'' mentions child actor Trudi Frazer would go on to star in a metafictional Creator/QuentinTarantino movie as an adult. Tarantino's father makes an appearance, asking Cliff for an autograph for his six year old son.
69	* In the Jeter sequel books for ''Film/BladeRunner'', it's established that the film ''Blade Runner'' exists in the Blade Runner universe as a reality-TV style police procedural. Deckard does point out that he's being played by an actor and the actual case didn't go down that way.
70	* In the ''Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures'' novel ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoNewAdventuresTheDyingDays The Dying Days]]'', Benny Summerfield sees Richard Dawkins and his wife at the National Space Museum. Richard Dawkins' wife at the time was the actress Creator/LallaWard, who co-starred in ''Series/DoctorWho'' in the 1970s as the Doctor's companion Romana. Sadly, the Doctor isn't there to notice the resemblance.
71	* In ''Literature/JeevesAndTheFeudalSpirit'', discussing his new facial hair, Bertie argues that Creator/DavidNiven looks dashing and debonair with his mustache. Jeeves replies that he’s enjoyed several of Mr. Niven’s films, but Niven doesn’t look anything like Bertie. One wonders what either of them thinks about the 1936 InNameOnly adaptation of ''Literature/ThankYouJeeves'', in which Niven plays the role of Bertie Wooster. (Considering that Creator/PGWodehouse hated [[DisownedAdaptation the finished product]], this probably doubles as a TakeThat.)
72	* In the audiobook for ''Literature/WorldWarZ'', Roy Elliot, a director, mentions a friend of his, heavily implied to be Creator/MartinScorsese; Scorcese himself voices a character in an earlier segment of the audiobook.
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75	[[folder:Magazines]]
76	* Back when it was still a print publication, ''Magazine/{{Cracked}}'' often played with the trope in its annual "summer movie" spoofs; they'd depict characters from one movie taking a break from the plot they were supposed to be forwarding to go to a theater and watch some of the other movies from that summer's lineup, as if they were as "real" as the readers were but the characters in the other movies were fictional. Their ''Film/BatmanForever'' parody had Batman, Robin, and various villains going to see other 1995 summer blockbusters, with The Penguin storming out of a ''WesternAnimation/{{Pocahontas}}'' parody because he was offended by a scene showing Pocahontas and John Smith eating turkey (because he's a "bird-man," of course). Their 1999 parody of Creator/AdamSandler's hit ''Film/BigDaddy'' (or, rather, ''Big Duddy'') started out as a straightforward parody of that movie's plot but then had "Sony" take the orphaned boy to see ''Film/{{Inspector Gadget\|1999}}'' and ''Film/MysteryMen'' (or, rather, ''Inspector Gagit'' and ''Misery Men''). While watching the ''Film/MysteryMen'' spoof, he is inspired to resolve the plot of the main story (social services wanting to take away the boy) by adopting the superhero persona of "Lawyer Man" (complete with a mask and cape), who uses his "super lawyer powers to clog up the courts with meaningless petitions and motions for the next ten years."
77	* ''Magazine/{{MAD}}'' also did these kinds of gags, such as in their 1982 parody ''Awful Annie'', when "Daddy Morebucks" takes Annie to the movies. True, this was a direct reference to a scene in the actual movie being parodied, but here the characters [[LampshadeHanging constantly call attention]] [[NoFourthWall to the fact that they are fictional]]. ("We'll go from this movie to another movie!" declares Morebucks.)
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80	[[folder:Music]]
81	* Music/KatyPerry's "Waking Up In Vegas" has a rather bizarre version. In the video, Perry plays a woman tooling around Vegas with her boyfriend. They hit a run of good luck, then a run of bad luck. You could reasonably assume that some random woman wouldn't be able to phone up Perry's agent or whoever and ask for more money, but the character actually ''plays'' some of Perry's songs on her [[ProductPlacement conspicuous phone]], including "Waking Up in Vegas." Complete with album cover. During a poker tournament, the woman's name subtitle reads "Perry." Presumably, the music video for the song hasn't been released yet, or the character hasn't seen it yet, or it's much different from what it is in this world, and the character just happens to be named "Perry" and looks and sounds a lot like Katy Perry. Incidentally, the boyfriend is played by Joel David Moore, from the ''Series/{{Bones}}[=/=]Film/{{Avatar}}'' example above.
82	* Music/{{Gorillaz}} has a particular example where they are well aware of their [[VirtualCelebrity animated nature]], actively sharing our universe. You have the many guests that work with them, whose identities are often altered to fit within the band's storyline, but then you have to wonder if these collaborators ''are'' that new identity, or if their real persona is somewhere out there. It's even an established fact that their creators Damon Albarn and Jaimie Hewlett are existing people, but aren't referred as such, jarring knowing that Albarn's is the main singing voice behind the band.
83	* Music/DavidBowie's ConceptAlbum ''Music/{{Outside}}'' plays with this via "The Diary of Nathan Adler", a short story setting up the album's plot and characters (played by Bowie) and "written" by one of them. The album was recorded in 1995 and set in a 1999 where "art-crime" runs rampant; in a brief history of the shocking art (performance and otherwise) that paved the way for this trend, Adler not only mentions RealLife artists such as Chris Burden and Damien Hurst, but notes that in TheSeventies "Bowie the singer remarked on a coupla goons who frequented the Berlin bars wearing dull surgery regalia..." No first name is given, so this singer may or may not be David (who ''did'' live in Berlin for a time in the late '70s)...
84	* Music/BeastieBoys' ''Fight for Your Right Revisited'' features the 1986 Beastie Boys played by Creator/SethRogen, Creator/ElijahWood and Danny Macbride, their ''future'' versions played by Creator/WillFerrell, Creator/JohnCReilly and Creator/JackBlack as well as the real Beastie Boys themselves ''as the cops arresting the former six at the end.''
85	* Music/BillyJoel:
86	** The video for "Uptown Girl" has him playing a mechanic in a ca. 1960 garage who, at the beginning, is watching Joel's video for his previous single, "Tell Her About It", which was represented as having been performed on the ''Series/TheEdSullivanShow''. So, the video is obviously taking place in an alternate universe wherein Billy Joel is much older than he is in our universe, and would thus probably look much different in 1983.
87	** In the music video for "You're Only Human," he plays an angel that convinces a teenager not to commit suicide, a la [[ItsAWonderfulPlot It's a Wonderful Life]]. Every time he appears and disappears, a few measures from "Piano Man" play. But if Billy Joel is a GuardianAngel in this universe, who wrote Piano Man?
88	* Music/{{Feist}}'s video for "Mushaboom" starts out with Leslie Feist waking up in an apartment and singing along to the song itself on the radio while going through her morning routine. It's ambiguous if this is supposed to be Feist singing along to her own song, or just a fan who happens to look and sing exactly like her.
89	* Music/{{Eminem}}'s song "Bad Guy" is a SequelSong to "Stan" from ''The Marshall Mathers LP''. In one passage, Stan's brother Matthew tortures Eminem by playing him ''The Marshall Mathers LP'' in the car. Although all we actually hear him singing along with is the AlbumClosure, "Criminal".
90	* In "$7,500 O.B.O." which Music/TimMcGraw sings from the perspective of a man selling his truck because it brings back painful memories of a failed relationship, he mentions the ex-girlfriend singing along to "Where The Green Grass Grows," one of his best-known hit songs.
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93	[[folder:Professional Wrestling]]
94	* In an angle where Wrestling/ShawnMichaels retires from Wrestling/{{WWE}} to work in a cafeteria, he uses the pseudonym "Hickenbottom" to avoid attention. Wrestling/TripleH goes on to make fun of the name. Michaels's real name is Michael Shawn Hickenbottom.
95	* A [[Wrestling/ImpactWrestling TNA]] skit involved Wrestling/KevinNash figuring out new nicknames for Wrestling/JayLethal. He pitched names like "Vinnie Vegas" and "Oz" which were gimmicks Nash played in Wrestling/{{WCW}} at the start of his career. He openly acknowledged this while trying to figure out a gimmick for Sonjay Dutt. ("I wrestled two matches in that one year and earned six figures!")
96	* As certain wrestling skits over the past quarter-century have established, the characters of [[Film/TheNakedGun Frank Drebin]], [[Series/{{Arliss}} Arliss Michael]], [[Franchise/RoboCop Alex J. Murphy]], and [[Film/ChildsPlay Charles Lee Ray]] all exist as their fictional selves....which gets freakin' weird once you remember that the wrestlers exist in our world as well as their fantasy one, not to mention that UsefulNotes/BillClinton, UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush, and UsefulNotes/BarackObama have appeared as well (as lookalike actors playing them, of course, as well as a taped appearance from the actual Obama). Granted, Robocop and Chucky were established in Wrestling/{{WCW}}, and may or may not be canon to Wrestling/{{WWE}}, but considering that Wrestling/{{WCW}} was meant to be in the real world as well... it can hurt the brain.
97	* Also, Tiger Woods is apparently an ''[[LiteralMinded actual tiger]]''.
98	* Creator/AdamSandler appeared in the audience at ''[=WrestleMania=] 21'' to see Wrestling/BigShow wrestle. [[Film/TheWaterboy Did Sandler ask him for a job again afterward?]]
99	* And here's something to ''truly'' ponder: Wrestling/SgtSlaughter is both a "real" wrestler character and a fictional character in ''WesternAnimation/GIJoeARealAmericanHero''. Wait....does that mean that the characters in ''G. I. Joe''....actually exist? (And if ''that's'' true, why did they look radically different in the 1980s than in the 1960s? Were there some ultra-secret Cold War projects that the Pentagon didn't tell us about?)
100	** But then [[Film/GIJoeRetaliation the Rock plays Roadblock]], despite the Rock being canon to WWE and Roadblock being canon to Franchise/GIJoe. Confusing ...
101	* During the Wrestling/AttitudeEra, Wrestling/CrashHolly created the rule that the [[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/wwe/wwf-hc.html WWE Hardcore Title]] was on the line 24/7, but constantly defending the title was wearing him out. One match saw him defend the title while doing his laundry so he then hires Film/{{Shaft}} to protect him, but never once comments how much he looks like Creator/SamuelLJackson.
102	* In the world of Lucha Libre, the legendary luchador Wrestling/ElSanto was, during the 1960s, simultaneously a film star, a comic book character, and an active professional wrestler. This bizarre triple paradox also applies to his rival, The Blue Demon.
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105	[[folder:Radio]]
106	* In ''The Gobetweenies'', Tom is a huge ''Series/DoctorWho'' fan. Tom's father, Joe, is played by Creator/DavidTennant.
107	* In ''Clare In The Community'', a [[Creator/TheBBC Radio 4]] comedy series about a social worker based on a comic strip in ''The Guardian'', reference has been made to a comic strip in ''The Guardian'' about a social worker, which Clare doesn't find funny. In addition, Richard Lumsden, the actor who plays Ray, was apparently an old schoolfriend of Brian.
108	* In ''Radio/TheNavyLark'', Leslie Phillips' character is a huge fan of... ''The Navy Lark'', especially "that chap who plays the silly-ass sub-lieutenant" (i.e. Leslie Phillips). [[SelfDeprecation No other character can fathom his lack of taste.]]
109	* In ''Radio/HancocksHalfHour'', Tony Hancock's character has a radio show, but his co-stars don't appear in the in-universe version - except in one episode, where a character played by Creator/KennethWilliams recognises Hancock ''and Bill Kerr'' by their voices, because he's a regular listener (he thinks it's mostly rubbish, except for Kenneth Williams!).
110	* In ''Radio/TheRickyGervaisShow'', Karl pitches an idea for a movie about a failed actor who gets his brain placed inside Creator/TomCruise's body. When Karl is asked who should portray the actor in his original body, Karl suggests Ted Danson. Stephen is quite perplexed about the concept of a universe where Tom Cruise is still a famous actor yet Ted Danson isn't.
111	* In the Richard Diamond Private Detective episode "Mrs X's Missing Husband" Diamond runs into a woman at a bar who hires him to find her husband who has disappeared. She's pretty vague on the details, refusing to say anything about her and her husband other than that his name is Rick. Reluctantly Diamond takes the case though he suspects that she might be trouble. She has a picture of her husband which analyzed but comes back stating that the man is Diamond himself. Eventually they track the husband to a sanitarium but he was released and she runs and eventually goes to the airport as they were planning on flying out to LA. Later Diamond receives an envelope containing five hundred dollars and a letter explaining that she just found out she was pregnant and that she was going to take a year off from work to have her baby and her husband had a nervous breakdown over the thought of him having to support the two. [[spoiler: The letter is signed June Allyson, a Hollywood starlette who's husband was: Richard Diamond Private Detective star Dick Powell.]]
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114	[[folder:Theatre]]
115	* In the 1939 play ''Theatre/ArsenicAndOldLace'', one character is told repeatedly (and to his [[BerserkButton borderline homicidal annoyance]]) that he looks like Boris Karloff, who played the part in the original Broadway production. This is LampshadeHanging in the play, as the part was written specifically for Karloff.
116	* In a case of works, rather than actors, existing in-universe, ''Theatre/{{Rent}}'' is a 20th century adaptation of ''Theatre/LaBoheme''. In the show, Roger plays a strain of music on his guitar and Mark comments that it sounds like "Musetta's Waltz"... which is from ''La Bohème''. One wonders if the characters noticed how closely their lives reflected the opera.
117	** Well, there IS a song called "La Vie Bohème."
118	* OlderThanSteam: In Creator/{{Moliere}}'s play ''Theatre/TheImaginaryInvalid'', which satirizes the medicine of the era, the brother of Argan (the hypochondriac main character) asks him if he would like to see a Moliére play. Argan angrily berates Moliére for making fun of doctors.
119	* ''Theatre/TitleOfShow''. A musical about writing a musical about writing a musical, the musical they're writing being ''[title of show]''. The main characters are all played by themselves, and the musical debuted at the theater festival the characters discuss debuting the musical at. Needless to say, there is a very small window in which this musical works as well as it was intended to.
120	** Which definitely passed by the time the play was performed by the Arizona Theatre Company.
121	** The possibility of who plays them after the initial run was addressed in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5MgEwRytUU "the [title of show] show" episode 6.]] Also, in other behind the scenes material, it can be seen that two standbys had been hired.
122	* In ''Theatre/DonGiovanni'' by composer Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and librettist Lorenzo da Ponte, Don Giovanni and his servant Leporello divert themselves by singing snippets of opera, first an aria from ''Una cosa rara'' by Vincenzo Martini, a colleague of Mozart's who frequently collaborated with da Ponte, then one from ''Fra i due littiganti'' by Sarti, and finally ''Non più andrai'' from ''The Marriage of Figaro'' by Mozart and da Ponte, at which Leporello notes that the tune sounds very familiar. It is believed that this was part also a nod to the audience in Prague (where ''Don Giovanni'' was first performed), because in Prague unlike Vienna the ''Marriage'' had been a huge success.
123	* In ''Theatre/EvilDeadTheMusical'', Annie refers to the ''Film/SpiderMan1'' film as being "[[Creator/SamRaimi poorly directed]]".
124	* Creator/GilbertAndSullivan: Interestingly, true in some cases but not others. ''HMS Pinafore'' exists as a fictional play in ''The Pirates of Penzance'' ("whistle every tune from that infernal nonsense ''Pinafore''), but King Paramount in ''Utopia Limited'' says that he's in touch with a certain Mikado of Japan with some interesting views on punishment.
125	* The ShowWithinAShow in ''Theatre/TheDrowsyChaperone'' is said to have first debuted in the Morosco Theatre. When the (real) show went to Broadway, it debuted in the Marquis Theatre, which was built on the same site as the Morosco. They even acknowledge it in the show's dialogue, making it a MythologyGag as well.
126	* At the end of the Music/AlanisMorissette JukeboxMusical ''Jagged Little Pill'', one character is playing the guitar and another complains that he only plays "that old Alanis Morissette song."
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