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5[[folder:Mòrag's Reputation]]
6* During the cutscene that takes place before facing Mòrag, Dromarch tells Rex she's [[TheDreaded the strongest Driver]] in all of Mor Ardain. Yet, when the battle starts, she's only a mere lv.15 encounter and [[CurbstompBattle goes down laughably easy.]] After the party escapes, Mòrag even notes that Rex held back on her -- and he's only a kid! Either Dromarch [[GameplayStorySegregation heard wrong]], or the other Drivers in the kingdom suck.
7** To be fair, Rex has the Aegis, one of the strongest blades in Alrest itself, it would make a huge power difference and could explain why she's level 15.
8** Also some GameplayAndStorySegregation. Sure her ''boss fight'' may be easy but in the cutscene itself, its the other way round with Rex, Poppi and Nia having to work together to simply create a large enough opening to escape and that was by dropping a water tower on her.
9** The other Drivers in the Empire probably do suck. At the beginning of Chapter 2, there are Mor Ardainian soldiers holding an open kiosk trying to recruit any random schmuck off the streets to become a Driver ([[SignedUpForTheDental with a pension and benefits!]]), it probably wouldn't be a stretch to say that these aren't going to be the cream of the crop.
10** The game actually explains this some, given even when you fight her later in the game at a much higher level she is stated to not be fighting at full strength (Mythra states that she knows how strong her blade Brighid is and knows they are holding back). Its pretty in character for Morag to only use as much power as she deems necessary, as she is pretty civic-minded about causing damage to the surroundings (Rex and company get chastised for much of the game for destroying the water tower). And of course as pointed out earlier, regardless of how easy the gameplay fight is, the actual in-story fight has Morag winning or in a stalemate once the cutscene starts again.
11** GameplayAndStorySegregation. In the original game, Egil stated Yaldabaoth was the most powerful Mechon at Level 72, yet in the actual gameplay, Ancient Daedala is a Mechon and is Level 105. Same thing again.
12** That particular instance at least makes sense, since Yaldabaoth was the control unit for the Mechonis itself and its Apocrypha ability [[PowerNullifier completely shut down]] ''[[InfinityPlusOneSword the Monado.]]'' Ancient Daedala, while powerful, had neither capability.
13** The issue also seems to extend to her reputation/rank as High Inquisitor. There are several points in the game where people who should know who she is treat her and the party she's with like random nobodies. The most egregious being the last mercenary rank-up quest where you have to confront some rogue Ardanian soldiers on the titan battleship and they will act like they have no idea who Morag is even if she is in the party. For her part, Morag never tries to assert any authority over them despite being a high-ranking official.
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16[[folder:Blade of a Blade]]
17* Do they ever explain how Malos (a Blade himself) can wield another Blade (Sever)? This may be because I only just got past the Malos/Akhos fight and Mythra' s exposition and so on.
18** It looks like a Blade can bond with another Blade, as [[spoiler: Nia is a Blade herself, and a cutscene shows her bonding with Dromarch]].
19** It's possible for Flesh Eater Blades to bond with regular Blades due to their incorporation of human (or organic in general as wild beasts are also capable of resonating with Blades) cells. As for Malos, he is an Aegis like Pyra/Mythra, [[spoiler: which manages all Core Crystals]]. They're capable of a lot of things, so Malos being able to bond with another Blade isn't too much of a stretch.
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22[[folder:The Third Aegis]]
23* In the final chapter, [[spoiler:Klaus says that there was a third Aegis, but it's never brought up again. Is it suggesting that Alvis is supposed to be the third Aegis? If so, how did he get to the original's universe, and does that mean that Pyra and Malos were also AI on the ship that Klaus turned into the Aegises?]]
24** [[spoiler: Alvis could be the third Aegis, considering how when Malos got back his Aegis powers, he used monado arts just like Shulk. Klaus also explained how Alvis got trapped within the alternate world when the world was just being created.]]
25** [[spoiler:Maybe. The Architect did wait a very long time before deciding to create life, and it was only after a long process and his decision to make the Aegis to oversee Blades that he saw Ontos disappear. Now this could definitely mean there's more contect for the situation just like when he did the experiment. But the implication currently is that Alvis was in the new universe from the beginning. Ontos disappeared long after said universe began.]]
26** [[spoiler:The differences in time can be explained by the fact that Ontos disappeared after triggering a space-time rift. It transvered both space and time to travel between dimensions. It seems that each dimention has it's own spacial field and time axis, with the events of Xenoblade Chronicles 1 and 2 happening concurrently. If Ontos traveled through both space and time, it is not hard to believe that it might have moved backwards along the time axis of Xenoblade Chronicles 1, arriving at the same time as Zanza and Meyneth. Thus, Ontos could arrive in the first game to become the Alvis and the Monado.]]
27** The setup for a SequelHook if [[spoiler:he isn't Alvis]]?
28** [[spoiler: In ''Xenoblade: Definitive Edition'', Alvis' updated character model has his necklace charm changed from a key, to an object strikingly similar to a red Core Crystal, all but confirming he is in fact Ontos.]]
29** [[spoiler: As of ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles3FutureRedeemed'', Alvis has explicitly been confirmed to be Ontos, ending speculation. ]]
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32[[folder:Mòrag and Niall's relationship]]
33* Mòrag and Niall are referred to as siblings very often, but in a cutscene later in the game after [[spoiler:Niall almost died to Bana]], if I recall correctly, Niall says that Mòragh is his uncle's child. So which is it? Or am I misremembering?
34** They call each other siblings, but appear to actually be cousins.
35** However, one of the Heart-to-Hearts, Family Ties as I recall, which is ABOUT her relationship to Niall, refers to them as though they are actual siblings, without even so much as a mention of being cousins.
36** Maybe it's both. Incest in a royal family was not seen as uncommon.
37** A simpler explanation would be that they were raised together at a young age, and saw their relationship as LikeBrotherAndSister despite not being actual blood siblings.
38** They definitely seem to be siblings since they talk about how she would have been next in line to the throne if their parents never had a son
39*** They wouldn't need to be siblings for that. Morag's father was Niall's uncle, and until Niall was born she was the legitimate heir since her father was the king's brother and the king had no children.
40** Sadly, bit of a language/culutural translation issue. What Niall calls Morag in the original Japanese dub is “Née-san”, which, in Japanese culture, is meant to refer to one’s older sister, but could also be for any older female that is close to you/that you respect. In reality, they are cousins. Even though Morag is Niall’s cousin, he still has a great deal of respect and familial love for her, hence why he calls her that. It’s more vague in the localizations, since it just refers to Morag as sister without the cultural implications. So, to bluntly answer the original question, it’s a mix of an existing familial relationship and being raised together, not that they are biological brother and sister.
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43[[folder:Titan Sentience]]
44* Why is Azurda sentient and able to talk, but the other titans like Mor Ardain or Uraya are unable to talk and, presumably, non-sentient?
45** Azurda mentions he's "advanced" for a Titan several times, usually when discussing his regenerative ability, so the increased intelligence going hand-in-hand with that isn't too far-fetched. However, this doesn't seem to have been elaborated on at ''all''. Azurda barely gets any discussion, even though he [[spoiler: was one of the only people still alive to have been a part of the Aegis War, and appears to have been Addam's direct companion during his final years of travelling, even being tasked with watching over Fonsett Island]].
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48[[folder:The gameplay mechanic behind Gramps' first blade]]
49* This blade cannot be ditched or transferred whatsoever. However, it's still fully capable of going on mercenary missions, where it's rendered unavailable for use in the field. So if [[spoiler:Pyra goes missing]] and Rex has no other Blades, what happens? What's the point of this blade being locked in the party despite this? Why couldn't Rex be forbidden from ditching just about any Blade if his optional Blade count went below one?
50** If That Happens, [[spoiler:Roc]] or Gramp's Blade will be your blade. You can't send out a blade on a Merc. Mission if it's you last extra Blade, so it will always be either of them if they are your only blades. If you have more blades and send both of them to a Merc. Mission, you can always recall them back if you need [[spoiler:Wind Mastery to progress through some story obstacles. Gramp's Blade is always Wind]]
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53[[folder:Gramps Going Young]]
54* If Titans are able to revert to their larval/baby stage like Gramps, why don't all Titans do this and thus stop the problem of Titans being lost and losing land to live on? They could just move off temporarily and take care of the baby Titan until it grows up again to once again carry people to live on again.
55** Potential FridgeHorror answer: Azurda seems to be quite young by Titan standards, despite his elderly nickname, seeing as how he was born after the first Titans appeared in the world. It's possible that the other Titans, while capable of the same feat theoretically, are such {{Time Abyss}}es that their minds have deteriorated to the point that they don't have enough willpower to carry out the deed.
56** That would also explain why Azurda is the only Titan who seems to have sentience and talks to people.
57** There's the problem that it would still take far too long. Gramps said it would take him 300 years to reach his formal size and even then, said size was the size of boat. Now imagine the time it would take for a continent size titan to reach maturity?
58** 300 years? Then how do you explain [[spoiler: during the ending, when he did some sudden magic or whatever stuff and instantly grew back to his titan form?]].
59** [[spoiler: Mythra fixed him when she touched Gramps' Crystal, during the time when she told him and Poppi about her plan to sacrifice herself to save the party from the Orbit Station's demise]].
60** Its also all a bit of a moot point given Azurda repeatedly emphasizes that very few titans could even potentially revert to a larva like he did. For all we know he could be the only one currently living with such an ability.
61** Not all Titans look the same when fully grown. Maybe the house-sized dragon ''is'' Gramps' full size. He did mention he was getting old enough to have joint pains in one of the first cutscenes. Which means that [[spoiler: after Pneuma!Pyra restored his age to how he looked when he pulled his first BigDamnHeroes moment, he'd be back to being almost dead. Though admittedly joint pains doesn't equal almost dead.]]
62*** Azurda has been boat-sized for at least 500 years. Single-family dragon is his full size. [[spoiler: Given that she's quite fond of him, Pneuma almost certainly just fast-forwarded him through the titan equivalent of adolescence.]]
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66[[folder:Knowledge of the Architect]]
67* So near the end of the game, when Klaus explains the history of Alrest, he notes the new human races developed from the various remade animals over thousands of years. This was to my understanding after the titans were created as well. So how did the humans of Alrest develop the mythology told to us early in the game (and referenced by Pyra) of having once lived with the Architect and having been cast out to live on titans? If Amalthus was the first person to reach the top of the World Tree and he never even saw the Architect then how did the humans of Alrest learn that he existed and created the world? Klaus makes it sound like he only observed the new world and never interacted with the new human races or told them anything.
68** Probably in the same way that all myths, legends and religions develop: distorted, misremembered and outright false history combined with misinterpretation of available evidence to fit in with the myths. In particular the people of Alrest have been salvaging artifacts from the pre-cataclysm world for hundreds of years. It’s not unreasonable to suppose that this included at least some, probably incomplete, religious texts and pop mythology SF books, as well as books about the space eleveator and orbital habitats. The people of Alrest would have no real context but might take as guides to the “history” of their world and derive their myths from them. The idea that everyone used to live in Elysium with a being they regard as god before being expelled has obvious parallels with the Garden of Eden story and similar “fall of man” type stories from other religions, so those may have been the original inspiration. Various religions (real and fictional) include the concept of a World Tree and gods living in the sky. Given that the tallest natural structure on Alrest is something that looks very much like a huge tree it’s not that much of a stretch to think that stories they found referencing a World Tree would have particular resonance.
69** Consider this, the blades all speak English. [[spoiler: Canonically they probably do actually speak English, as the orbital station was American (despite being equatorial. Umm...) and its signage was all in English. For language to have developed so similarly, along with everything else, Klaus must have done some intentional social engineering. It's very likely that the blade system always included some basic stuff (after all, they're born knowing their names), and that included a vague understanding of who's up on that tree (just like how Pyra has a vague mental picture of Elysium).]]
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72[[folder:Where Baby Titans Come From]]
73* So, was Torna the only Titan with a nursery? How would destroying that one cut off the entire global Titan lifecycle - shouldn't all the other titans also have, well, uteruses where blades metamorphose into new titans, if its a feature of the species and not just a unique Tornan talent?
74** It doesn't seem to be explained explicitly in the game, but the implication is that the titans dying off was due to Amalthus interfering with the cycle. For five hundred years he controlled access to the majority of blades, and perhaps this as well as his "cleansing" ritual prevented blades from becoming new titans. Indeed he states he took certain special blades for himself, eventually absorbing them into his body, perhaps these blades were ones that were nearing the stage of returning to the titans that bore them and becoming new titans. And perhaps his power to control other titans was more subtle as well compared to the direct control he used in the end, preventing them from reproducing. If Amalthus was not the cause then its an odd coincidence, but certainly I wish that the group had asked Klaus about it, since the titans dying off was one of the main motivations for the group going to the World Tree.
75** The above is supported by the explanation of the blade life cycle. Accumulating data/experiences over many incarnations is part of the process to becoming a new titan, and data is stated by Amalthus to be one of the things he takes via the cleansing process. Thus in addition to eating valuable cores, he was keeping other cores from evolving and becoming titans.
76** Torna the Golden Country gives the final implicit confirmation that Amalthus' cleansing procedure kept Blades from becoming Titans, as we see from an internal perspective diagrams of "experienced" Blade cores that are close to becoming Titans and Blade cores that comparatively lack experience/data.
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80[[folder:Rex's Age]]
81* Is it ever said exactly how old he is? The official character art makes him look about 10-12, whereas his in-game character model looks a year or two older. Yet, the english dub [[VocalDissonance makes him sound 16-18]], which is jarring since he notes that Nia looks as much like a kid as he does.
82** I don't think the game ever specifies beyond saying that he left Fonsett to work as a salvager and support the village five years in the past. That, the multiple references to the past when he "was a kid" and Azurda stating he was never the biggest child makes me think he is supposed to be a fair bit older than he looks, like in his mid teens perhaps and just rather short.
83** [[https://nintendoeverything.com/xenoblade-chronicles-2-director-on-development-inspiration-for-the-world-and-setting-upcoming-dlc-more/ This]] summary of an interview with Takahashi mentions that Rex is 15 years old. EDIT: [[http://archive.is/Pwmq4 Copy of link added]]
84** The link doesn't work. It leads to a blank screen with an '''Error Code: 112-1035''' message. EDIT: Thanks for posting the second link. That answers the original question.
85** A better question might be: What is Rex’s age at the beginning of the story and how old is he by the end? The game ignores the point and doesn’t age the character models (unless you count Rex's costume change). However, the story could conceivably have taken place over years given the sheer amount of travelling the characters do; especially if you take the Merc Missions and blade affinity sidequests as canon. The relationship between Rex and Vandham makes more sense if they’d been together for months travelling to Fonsa Myma rather than the days the game implies. The unchanging model notwithstanding Rex’s arc is from idealistic kid to still idealistic but more responsible; so I think it makes most sense to put him in his mid teens at the beginning and early twenties by the end. Although it may just be one of those things it’s best not to think about too hard.
86** Well twice at the end of the game (once during the vision sequence and once when talking about what he's going to do about Malos), Rex is noted to be too young to drink. Of course we don't know what the age limit for drinking is in Alrest, but I assume it can't be much more than 20 or 21, so I doubt he's much past 18 by the end even if the game takes place over the course of years (on that note I think it's a little ridiculous that he can be considered old enough to work to earn a living and even fight in battles yet he's not allowed to have a drink).
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89[[folder:[[spoiler:Klaus Ruins Everything For Everyone Yet Again]]]]
90* So, why exactly did Klaus make the Cloud Sea? What was the point of restoring and maintaining the buildings and gadgets of old humanity, if it rendered the surface uninhabitable for any later life? And when that later life did appear, why just send blades/Titans to live on, rather than, y'know, ''removing the nanoparticles preventing the existence of living space''?
91** My impression was that the process of restoring the world took a very long time, and that most of the surface was still not particularly habitable even in Rex's time (hence why we end up with a single livable landmass cleared of the Cloud Sea rather than a whole planet, and even that surface is made of dead titans rather than the actual Earth's surface). Recall how Morytha was apparently the only human city left in the wake of the reality tear that scattered most life across different dimensions, and even it was inhospitable and surrounded by continuous storms. So even in the present, the Cloud Sea can't vanish yet as its work on the rest of the world is still not done. Further, living space only became an issue after the Aegis War, and said war (or rather what led to it) also convinced Klaus there was no point in helping the world, that his efforts were doomed to fail, etc. So he chose not to help.
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95[[folder:Pneuma's Sacrifice]]
96* This may not be something that can be answered as we don't get any look at her thoughts, but just why did Pneuma not tell anyone she planned to try to regenerate? That she planned it is clearly seen in how she moved her entire Core Crystal (and thus her mind, selves and memories) over to Rex when she removed it from him (the core on her chest vanishes in turn but she continues to somehow function, an ability Malos mentioned earlier that the Aegises have). Perhaps she was not certain it would work and didn't want to get everyone's hopes up?
97** That a mysterious particle from the destroyed Elysium enters and appears to reactivate Pneuma's core (rather than it happening on its own, and perhaps that particle contained her memories) suggest that she actually didn't plan to regenerate, at least not in the way she did, though that does raise other questions about just what happened.
98** Pneuma's thoughts are most likely reflected in the end credits song, ''One Last You''. To summarize: "I'm grateful for having met you and can pass on satisfied with the happy memories you've given me. ... But is that enough? I'd like to return the happiness you've given me and fill your life with joy as well. Oh God, will you let me see him one last time?" And bam, DeusExMachina. Presumably what revived Pneuma wasn't her own will but the will of the Conduit/Zohar/basically God, which she was plugged into up to the last moments of her life.
99** Rex and Pnuema shared the core crystal, meaning any damage one took, the other felt. It was explained by Malos that she would have given Rex the rest of the core when she almost pulled a heroic sacrifice in chapter 7, as that would both allow the sacrifice and save Rex. Its possible Pneuma was only intending to not kill Rex alongside her, and her regeneration was a happy coincidence.
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103[[folder:Rex's Heart]]
104* So just what is the state of Rex's heart at the end of the game? Malos describes what Pyra did when she resonated with Rex as using her Core Crystal to replace his heart after Jin "put paid to it", since it contained all the data necessary to take over the heart's functions. Likewise he stated she could at will move the rest of her core over to Rex and allow him to live on, "heart complete" as he puts it. That all makes sense, but then how is Rex okay after she not only moves the rest of her core over but then has it come out of his body? Is her core still fulfilling the function of Rex's heart, yet doesn't need to be physically inside him anymore? Or did Malos instead imply that moving the rest of the core over would restore Rex's original heart, allowing her to then remove her core from his body?
105** Considering Pneuma had the ability to restore Gramps' ability to become an adult, she probably had the ability to restore Rex's heart before separating her core crystal from him. Pyra/Mythra would not have this ability before Pneuma awoke.
106** My interpretation was that since core crystals were originally used to replace brain cells, it wouldn’t be a stretch for them to replace other organs, so Pneuma used her core crystal to regenerate Rex’s heart and then sepetate her core crystal from it.
107** One of Rex's best buddies is a powerful blade with the ability to heal any injury, including death. Just standing near Nia was probably enough to regenerate and heal his heart to the point he didn't need Pyra's crystal anymore.
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111[[folder:Nia's Saber]]
112* Every flesh eater in the game can wield their own blade weapon in combat, except that there's no way for [[spoiler: Nia to use the Catalyst Saber herself outside of cutscenes. Even though blade Nia is powerful, using her doesn't seem worth the opportunity cost of not using driver Nia: You miss out on skill points for her driver form if you use her, and it's impossible to dedicate Rex to healing after the end of chapter 7. Allowing Nia to wield the Catalyst Saber herself would avoid these issues, yet is impossible for no clear reason.]]
113** This might be a meta point but, to me at least, Nia’s ability to assume Blade form comes across as a bit of a last minute AuthorsSavingThrow to give the player the option of keeping a fun, plot important character in the field team when using Rex, Zeke and Morag (or Tora for those who played a lot of Tiger! Tiger! and completed the quest for Poppi’s third form). As such various elements of her transformation don’t seem fully thought through. Most obviously her Blades become unavailable for Merc Missions when she’s in Blade form and if you forget to switch her back to human before stopping at an inn you can’t level her up or down.
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117[[folder:What is the Rift?]]
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119* At the end of the game while flying over Morytha, Azurda states they are going to cross "that rift" ahead of them but we don't see clearly what he is talking about. Instead the group are seemingly suddenly flying over clear sea and nearing Elysium. At first I thought that it could be some kind of different dimension, but it looks like the Cloud Sea still exists in the distance (suggesting Elysium is just an island and surrounding ocean that the Architect cleared the Cloud Sea away from), and the final image of the game features Rex with Mythra and Pyra looking at the World Tree (which is now at a bit of an angle rather than vertical, thanks to the space elevator above it falling apart and being destroyed), which indicates they are still in the same world. Is the rift some kind of invisible barrier that is keeping the Cloud Sea from spilling over onto the ocean surrounding the new Elysium, while still allowing titans to cross into it? Hopefully it is something like that, since the Leftherian Island titans don't appear to have made the trip yet.
120** He might have been talking about the tornado that is always visible in the same spot near the Land of Morytha. Another possible explanation is the gap in the Cloud Sea created by [[spoiler: Artifice Ophion circling around the World Tree]], which is referred in-game to as the Great Rift. Or maybe the tornado was caused by the Great Rift slowly closing up, now that [[spoiler: Pyra's giant robot snake isn't working to keep the Rift open anymore.]] It's just not explained clearly enough one way or another.
121** One good theory presented in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVWcBdEILSA is that the rift is actually a cloud sea ridge/barrier that circled the world of Alrest (Alrest is actually just a comparatively small part of Earth, the titans moving continually around the World Tree) and cut it off from the destroyed planet. Klaus' final actions allowed this barrier to be traversed, revealing a landmass that formed from the bodies of dead titans.
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125[[folder:Torna tracking the party]]
126* In Chapter 5's beginning, Akhos shows that he can still follow where the Aegis is going. Just one problem; his Blade, Obrona, was KilledOffForReal in Chapter 3. Without her, how can he still be tracking the Aegis's ether signature?
127** Given the technology they had access to at that point, it may well be the ship had its own version of Obrona's ability. We don't see how the tracker looks, but what we do see is Akhos is at a sophisticated-looking console, and we don't see the light show that appeared when Obrona was tracking someone.
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131[[folder:Jumping onto the Titan in Temperantia]]
132* When the party has to stop the Judicium Titan weapon at the end of Chapter 5, they get on board by jumping off of a high cliff. That was quite a drop. How in the world did none of the humans break their legs? [[spoiler: Granted that we know Rex & Zeke are special cases, so this question is really only focused on Mòrag, who is the sole totally normal human in the party.]]
133** While only implied in the game by the various feats we see them do (and somewhat vaguely referenced by some characters in the game that Drivers have "incredible strength"), its outright stated in [[https://nintendoeverything.com/xenoblade-chronicles-2-director-on-development-inspiration-for-the-world-and-setting-upcoming-dlc-more/ this]] summary of an interview with Takahashi that Drivers gain superhuman strength and agility by resonating with a Blade, provided their Blade is with them. Logically that strength also means enhanced durability. And we see in the game that this extends to even "normal" humans like Morag, who took a direct hit from the Monoceros' mounted guns and ended up largely unharmed by just raising her arm and sword. Its also seen in how Morag can walk through fire without harm. Course one can surmise just how much one gains depends on the strength of the Driver and Blade as well as their bond, hence why so many average Drivers aren't nearly so extraordinary in their feats and durability.
134** Can we assume that Tora gets a similar ability from [[RidiculouslyHumanRobot Poppi]] as well even though she is an Artificial Blade? Either that, or Nopon are naturally MadeOfIron.
135** Probably a bit of both, that is we see Nopon survive some pretty crazy things in the game (Bana getting blown up, a side quest nopon falling from a tremendous height), but it's also true that Poppi works like (or at least mimics) a real blade when it comes to resonance granting her driver powers. It's part of what makes her an artificial blade instead of just a robot.
136** This also applies to bonding with core crystals. The Gormotti man we see trying and failing to resonate with the crystal at the beginning bleeds profusely and appears to either die or be severely injured. Tora and his family? They just get really nasty nose-bleeds.
137** If the party loses the fight, they have to use the Leaping and Wind Mastery field skills to return. It's a fair guess this is how they got there in the first place - Leaping from Poppi to augment leg strength, and Wind Mastery from [[spoiler:Roc]] to cushion the fall. Jumping without these isn't enough to reach the platform, and results in near-lethal damage.
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141[[folder:Flesh Eater Powers]]
142* Do Flesh eater gain unique powers? Is Nia's regenerative abilities one of them? Why does Jin have a transformation ability? Do other characters like Jin have one? What kind of powers do Blade Eaters get?
143** As Cole explained, flesh eaters can gain special powers, but only very rarely. Most don't, and most also suffer various impairments. Jin and Nia are the two most successful cases we see. Jin gained his particle-manipulation powers, which gave him light speed movement and the ability to nullify particle-based attacks (and on the negative side his body became dependent on that healing chamber to keep functioning). Nia had her powers as a healing blade amplified to the highest level, enabling her to weaponize her healing (as she did against Malos), nullify Malos' destruction powers at close range, and even bring back someone who had just died.
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146[[folder:Artifice Ophion]]
147* What was Ophion's history? Did it always existed with Aion and Siren? Was it always guarding the World Tree? What was it used for if it wasn't always guarding the World Tree?
148** Pyra states/indicates Ophion was one of her weapons against Malos during the Aegis war (presumably she controlled Siren and Ophion, while Malos had an army of weaker artifices), until it fell in battle. After that, at some point the Tantal royal family salvaged Ophion, repaired it, took its control core and gave it the order to create the Great Void and prevent anyone from reaching the World Tree. As for what Ophion was doing before the Aegis War, one would presume it was up in space and dormant like the other artifices.
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151[[folder:Having a Driver]]
152* Would Blades, Flesh Eaters, Blade Eaters, Aegis, etc be stronger if they have Drivers? Do they need a Driver to active their full potential?
153** That does seem to be the case, when Brighid first shows up its noted that while she is powerful enough to face the group without a Driver, the same point implies how she would be stronger if her Driver was with her (echoed when its pointed out things are much more dangerous when they face Brighid and Morag together). Vandham also remarks on how the benefits of the Driver/Blade relationship go both ways. Another implication is how Malos didn't abandon Amalthus until after he had gotten control of all his powers, implying that even he needed a Driver for a time. Then of course there is Mythra during the Aegis War telling Brighid that a blade isn't at full strength without their Driver near them. Course Addam then says its not that simple, but he may have been referring to how a Driver can also hold back their Blade's powers (as his fear is what gave Mythra her fear and caused Mythra's true powers to be sealed away). Whether Flesh Eaters are different isn't addressed, but we aren't given any reason to think they don't at least benefit from having a Driver.
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156[[folder:Pyra and Mythra Synchronization]]
157* If Pyra and Mythra automatically have the same memories, why there are times one of them is unaware of something. Such as why was Pyra unaware of what happened with Mythra and Rex in the Argentum bedroom scene before they went to Mor Ardain? Or why does Pyra need to tell Mythra about a Hot Spring's existence?
158** In one scene in Morytha, Mythra notes Pyra is sleeping, implying that its possible for one persona to sleep while the other is awake and when this is the case the awake one presumably doesn't automatically share the memory of what happens with the sleeping one. In an earlier scene Pyra relates that she can look at Mythra's memories from even before the Pyra persona had taken form (and thus she could in theory see whatever happens while she is sleeping like in the Argentum bedroom scene if she looked back through Mythra's memories in the same way), but perhaps these types of memories are something Mythra has to allow her to see. Mythra would likely not have wanted Pyra to see/know the details of what happened, though even then Pyra seems to have some awareness in that she knows something happened between Rex and Mythra and that it involved her waking up in Rex's bed. Likewise, Mythra was probably asleep when Pyra found out about the hot springs and decided to tell her rather than just share the memory.
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160
161[[folder:Obtaining Artifices]]
162* How did Mythra and Malos managed to obtain the Artifices such as Siren and Ophion?
163** It is possible for the Architect to have salvaged the Artifices following the aftermath of his destroying the world. He most likely synced them with the space station and then entrusted the Aegises the responsibility to use them on top of gathering data from all Blades.
164** Pretty sure that's it. The Aegises have control of all the space station's technology, split between them. The artifices don't have anything to do with their job of managing the Blades, they were just the only things mobile enough to actually utilize. Maybe the Architect should have removed the Aegises' access to the artifices when they started blowing up continents, but he was extremely hands-off.
165*** The Architect still believed his atonement was doomed to fail, which was why he didn't bother stopping Malos.
166[[/folder]]
167
168[[folder:Rex's Cable Running Short]]
169* Despite having enough wire to pull him out of the Cloud Sea through considerable long distances when salvaging, Rex [[spoiler:didn't have enough wire to get him back to Pneuma's side.]] One possible theory could be that due to [[spoiler:Pneuma's power at rewriting reality and physics, as well as control over the whole space station, like making the wire wind up short or making the space too wide to reach, that she used it against Rex to prevent him from costing his and his friends' lives when the space station was coming apart]].
170** Probably trajectory and propulsion, it may have incredible length but not enough force behind it to reach straight out that far.
171[[/folder]]
172
173[[folder:Finch's Forgetfulness]]
174* Most Blades take after the traits of the first Driver they've ever resonated with, right? Did Finch, whose notable trait is to forget many important things, such as names, visited locations, and even recent actions, have a very forgetful and airheaded first Driver? Or was her [[FridgeHorror Core Crystal damaged]] to the point that she constantly forgets things? Her situation strangely reminded me of Jo from VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX, who's a WalkingTechbane [[spoiler:possibly because of a malfunctioning mimeosome]]. It seems closer to say it's Finch's first Driver that made her the way she is [[spoiler:much like how Malos was formed because of Amalthus]], but just wanted to throw this possibility out there just in case.
175[[/folder]]
176
177[[folder:Why Didn't They Say Something Sooner?]]
178* A lot of this game's plot seems to hinge on people not telling the party about really important things that they should probably know. Nia not telling anyone about [[spoiler:being a flesh-eater]] is understandable since she's afraid of the others' reactions, but it still means a few people died that probably didn't need to. Why didn't Gramps tell Rex about the Spirit Crucible sooner? At the very least he could have mentioned it in Tantal when Rex was having his big self-doubt crisis. And if Zeke had ever bothered to mention his [[spoiler:conversations with Amalthus it might have been a bit more of a tip-off that the praetor wasn't trustworthty]].
179** Regarding the Spirit Crucible, the basic reason was probably that he didn't think Rex was ready. Or perhaps he thought that telling Rex in the state he was in wouldn't help. As for Zeke, my impression was that he did think the praetor was trustworthy at least to an extent, just troubled (and probably saw their conversation as a private matter). If he didn't trust him he wouldn't have kept helping Amalthus.
180** Additionally, regarding [[spoiler:Nia, the only major character who actually died on her watch was Vandham, and she couldn't have saved him anyway, because at the time, Obrona was suppressing Blades' ether abilities.]]
181** Remember that the Spirit Crucible was an area that's not only arduous to get through, but extremely dangerous for Blades--i.e., most of the party--to even be in. It's not as simple as going down a few steps and retrieving a cool weapon for your trouble. If Rex doesn't currently ''need'' to go there, and especially if Gramps isn't sure he can handle it, he could well have decided it was better not to direct him there. In Nia's case, she acknowledges in-game that people have suffered and died because she was scared to reveal her true nature (whether or not she could have actually saved Vandham, she still seemed to view his death as due to her failure to act.) It's not an inconsistency in the story, it's a character flaw she overcomes in the crucible.
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184[[folder:The Third Titan?]]
185* During the main game its stated repeatedly that three nation-sized titans sank during the Aegis war. In Torna the Golden Country we see two of these, the nation of Coiea destroyed by Malos, and of course Torna itself. But what about the third? True Mythra had been active in what became known as the Aegis War for about a year by the time we meet Mythra in the game, and Malos had been causing destruction longer than that (though they wouldn't meet in person until near the end), but no dialog in the game that I am aware of suggests any other large titans were sunk during this time, only attacked/damaged. It seems unlikely that the developers forgot about this third titan, given how much attention they paid to many details from the main game, so are we meant to assume that this unknown third titan died off screen from Mythra's final attack? We do see her energy bolts spreading far and wide across the cloud sea, and if one had a lucky hit on a vulnerable part of another titan it could well have killed it.
186** I think they just don't mention it or find it necessary beyond the notion that it existed and was destroyed during the war ( if we want to hypothesize it might have been part of a cut dungeon or section - as an example Torna Golden Country was in fact supposed to be 3 to 4 or so chapters of the main game between Ch7 and 8, that were cut for time and consistency - or even DLC that was never made, either way it's never mentioned much, once by Morag and maybe once by Amalphas during the summit).
187
188** As for actual in game locations there are only really two weakly possible options in the game and really neither fit. Despite the Manta's horribly scarred state, Temperantia is still very much alive and above the clouds, plus only some of that damage is thought to have been wrought in the Aegis war, the majority is implied to have been caused during the even more ancient war between the Kingdom Judicium (the precursors to the Indolins, and the biomancer's to Torna's technomancers) and the Kingdom of Torna, which saw the former destroyed.
189
190** The other more plausible but still unlikely option is Morytha. Little is known about Morytha (The Titan), other than it has been dead for a very long time, long enough for it's body to decay to such a state that it's unrecognizable as to what form it once had. We know by the ruins and temple structures covering what parts of it we explore that it was once inhabited, but there aren't really any clues to how long ago that was. Indeed whether it's death predates the formation of the great void by Ophion, where it has come to rest is unknown, it's corpse beaching itself there would suggest that it died after the war, but given the state of Torna - which despite being dead for 500 years still has it's general form - I would think that Morytha died long before the war, indeed long ago enough that it's original name has been forgotten and it now only takes the moniker of the cursed and forgotten land which lies deep in the abyss below it.
191
192** There might actually be an answer in Torna: The Golden Country, abet one that is incredibly brief/small and very, very, easy to miss. Monster Granny Martha, who resides in Hyber Village on the Titan of Torna, has spent much of her life cataloguing Unique Monsters all across Alrest, and has only those on Torna and Gormont left to chronicle. During a conversation with her she will speak of her travels which have have taken her to all the various Titans of Alrest, including Lefteria, and the destroyed Coiea; finally she also mentions a Titan by the name of Estham, a titan which as far as can be found is only mentioned one other place, it's Mikhail's home titan and he mentions it when he's introduced ,otherwise it's not talked about either in Torna or the main game. This conversation - which cannot be repeated (she abbreviates it if you talk to her again) - is the only mention of this Titan besides Mik's introduction, and all that is given is the name, which doesn't tell us much; but given that Martha must have visited this titan in her lifetime and that Mikhail can't be more than 10, it likely was still around or only recently destroyed like Coiea at the time you speak to her. Indeed - and this may be stretching context - it is the last titan she mentions, which could suggest it was the most recent/last one she visited before coming to Torna. Since this titan is never again mentioned, and is never mentioned or seen as one of the still extant titans in the main game, it must have been destroyed/died sometime between the Addam et al's conversation with Martha and the beginning of the main game 500 years later, which in absence of any other evidence to the contrary makes it at least hypothetically a good candidate - if not the best one we have - for the third Titan destroyed/killed in the Ageis war.
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196[[folder:Shulk and Fiora's appearances]]
197* During Shulk and Fiora's appearance in the DLC, Shulk has the Bionis Monado, and Fiora has her original Homs body. There is no point in the original Xenoblade Chronicles when these two things are both true. Fiora gets "killed" and taken by the Mechon in the same battle in which Shulk first picks up the Monado. Shulk loses the Monado and starts using the Replica Monados well before Fiora gets turned back into a Homs. After the ending of the game, Shulk no longer has the Monado.
198** It's not canon, simple as that. It's just a neat cameo for the sake of crossover.
199** On the other hand, note that Shulk doesn't arrive with the Bionis Monado. It appears in his hand afterward, and may well be simply a replica/alternate version made or procured by the Nopon Archsage (Shulk seems to express some surprise at seeing the Monado again). Ergo the Shulk and Fiora we see here could well be meant to be from after the end of their game (some of their dialog suggests this).
200[[/folder]]
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202[[folder:Lack of people climbing the World Tree]]
203* So, in the modern timeframe of the games, there's a giant hole in the Cloud Sea that prevents any Titan that cannot outright fly (which seem to be a minority) from getting near it, and Ophion is patrolling the perimeter, attacking anyone who draws close. Okay, but that's only been true since the Aegis War. Before that, it's implied the World Tree was fairly accessible, since Ophion hadn't been activated and the giant Cloud Sea hole wasn't there. Yet Amalthus is the only one since the formation of Alrest who's climbed it? You'd think that with stories of a paradise at the top of the Tree there'd be a LOT more people attempting it.
204** Who says nobody tried? Maybe they tried but never reached the top.
205** Reaching the world tree was relatively easy. Climbing it and finding an entrance was still hard and many would die trying. Then, if you do manage to reach the inside, you'll now have to deal with some extremely powerful automated defense robots that can even be a challenge for a full party with the Aegis. The few who made it that far died fighting them or were forced to flee, at which point they're in for another perilous journey back down. Amalthus was the first who managed to make it all the way and come back alive.
206[[/folder]]
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208[[folder:Cutscenes vs. Gameplay]]
209* Why does this game feature so much ridiculous abuse of HeadsIWinTailsYouLose? Almost every story-based fight has Rex and co. kick the boss's ass followed immediately by a cutscene of them getting their ass kicked. It may be an acceptable trope once in a while, but when freaking ''Bana'' is suddenly "too strong" for the heroes it's just irritating. What's wrong with letting the player actually win?
210** To make for good, epic action sequences in the ensuing cutscenes. If I recall, the original Xenoblade did this several times as well. And there's gotta be some reasons for such scenes as [[spoiler:Vandham dying and Bana escaping to lead into the fight with Mikhail and Patroka]]
211[[/folder]]
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213[[folder:Shouting out the plan]]
214* Why is it that the heroes routinely yell out what they're planning to do while standing within fifteen feet of the villains, yet the latter never act as though they can hear them?
215[[/folder]]
216
217[[folder:Signs of a Flesh Eater]]
218* As we may already know, Flesh Eaters are Blades infused with human cells in an attempt to make them more powerful or give them unique powers. The question is how to determine what parts of a Flesh Eater is human without them telling. The example to use here is [[spoiler:Jin, who stated that he ate Lora's heart. Upon transforming into his true form, a gash scar is revealed on his chest]]. And then there's Cole/Minoth, who has a prominent scar over his left eye. Maybe the placement is coincidental, but does the scar signify where and what human cells were implanted to create a Flesh Eater? In Minoth's case as an experimental Flesh Eater, Amalthus could've used a human eye or brain to turn him into a Flesh Eater?
219[[/folder]]
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221[[folder:Driver Arts]]
222* So what exactly is a Driver Art within the lore? Malos mentions early on that Rex knowing a few without being a driver makes him rather impressive. This could mean that they're just fighting techniques like ordinary martial arts or swordplay but there are several ether stat Driver Arts like Nia's Healing Circle that have what appear to be magical effects, and you can use those while the Shackle Blade status effect is inflicted, so it looks like the driver has some kind of ether power independent of the Blade.
223** It's likely humans can use ether to some extent, since ether energy can be harnessed by various weapons independent of Blades.
224[[/folder]]
225
226[[folder:Is Mor Ardain dying of Natural Causes]]
227* Many times over the course of the game it is mentioned that Mor Ardain is nearing the very end of it's life, it's body has long been heating up - which the Ardanian's have used to provide them with large amounts of Geothermal Energy - which has desiccated the land and killed most of the plant and animal life, leaving the titan mostly a barren badlands filled with dust storms and monsters, the Ardanians have long been planing to move their people from their dying scion and indeed that is the reason they are so interested in Gormontt. Indeed the situation is so precarious that during the battle of the Titans it's implicated that Mor Ardain is on it's literal death bed, with with only months or weeks to live before it perishes causing Nial to order the evacuation and relocation of the Capital to Toragoth. One thing I never fully grasped, was the titan's death completely natural? Was Mor Ardain simply so ancient that having lived hundreds of thousands or millions of years it was just so old that it was dying of old age, or did something else help it along. Early on in the game I got the distinct inpression that the Ardainians may have "abused" or over used their Titan's resources, being "The Empire", and are now looking for a new source of resources in Gormontt. That notion fell away somewhat as it wasn't reinforced after the early game, but it it still left me wondering if the Ardanian's didn't help their titan along to it's demise by using up too much of it's resources and energy. Secondly, in the opening of the Game, it's made a big point by Rex that many titans including some pretty large - albeit not continent sized - ones have been dying lately, we even seen one an example in a manta looking titan that dies right in the opening, and it's pretty big - though much smaller than the similarly shaped Temperantia. What was that all about? I thought it might have been connected to something happening to the Architect, but nothing really more is expounded upon it.
228** To the first question, the game presents the symptoms of a titan nearing the end of its lifespan as something that is fairly well understood by humans. Nial remarks that even Gormott has been showing the early signs, that the harvests from the fields there have been declining for years and he ponders if its basically a warning that the whole world could be ending. The Ardainians are known for making substantial "alterations" to their titans, but while some think it's painful, Azurda doesn't seem to think such things actually cause the titan any real harm. Siphoning off its ether on the other hand, like what was done to Genbu, can have negative effects, as can intentionally poisoning them (as is attempted on the Ardainian titan in one side quest). Overall though, titans are noted to have definite limits to their life spans, said spans are just very long (this can be inferred when Zeke remarks how hard he finds it to believe the Architect could still be alive if he created Alrest, that "even titans don't live that long").
229** To the second question, the issue of titans dying off is a big one that motivates Rex to view Elysium as the solution, a place for humanity to move to as the living spaces (titans) are becoming fewer and fewer every year. Just why the decline is happening is a mystery to almost everyone and only explained late in the game, and even then its not explicitly stated (i.e. no one says "this is why the titans are dying out"), but it is a natural consequence of what we learn about the titan life cycle. Namely Blades after accumulating data from living many lives, return to the titan that bore them and proceed to become titans themselves. They grow over many centuries or millennia, though only a few attain the size of the "continent" titans. Eventually they die for good, however, they are replaced by their progeny who by the time of a large titan's death have likely produced one or two new continental titans that the people and animals can move to. This went smoothly as a process for many thousands of years, but then Amalthus became the Master Driver, and gained the power to siphon out from Core Crystals the accumulated experiences of the Blades via his cleansing procedure. This effectively prevented the Blades he did this to from reaching the point where they could become titans, as it basically forced each one to start accumulating experience from scratch. Few except Amalthus knew this though, but what everyone knew was that the cleaning procedure made the Core Crystal capable of resonating with a far wider range of people than otherwise. Thus there was a huge motivation to gather Core Crystals and make sure Amalthus cleansed them, so that there could be more Drivers to use as soldiers, peacekeepers, workers, etc. And this continued for 500 years. The result was that by the present day many existing titans are dying of old age, but because of Amalthus few, if any, are replaced by new, younger titans. It didn't help either that the Aegis War eliminated three continent titans in a short period. As for why Amalthus did this, his reasoning is mostly a PutThemAllOutOfMyMisery, but he wants it done on his terms and by him. Watching society collapse into chaos as living space diminishes fulfilled his desire to keep proving to himself that there was no hope for humanity.
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232[[folder:Why Do Core Crystals Harm the Unqualified?]]
233* Was it ever explained (inside the game or outside it) why being rejected as a Driver involves various degrees of injury and even death, beyond the "couldn't handle the Core Crystal's power" explanation? We learn later that Amalthus cleansing cores of their accumulated data made it possible for a much larger segment of the population to become Drivers than was the norm through history before that. The implication then is that Blades resonate with living things who have something they "need" within them that would aid in their accumulation of experience, and that the less experience a Blade has the more likely a person will have that thing they need. Thus it makes sense then that the more a Blade grows the harder it would become to resonate with, that Blades can't resonate with just anyone, etc. however, it seems counterproductive to outright harm those incompatible, let alone kill them. That is if everyone rejected got away with nothing worse than a nosebleed or being knocked unconscious it'd be one thing (and perhaps those levels of injury are the norm), but that there is even a small chance of being outright killed even with Amalthus' cleansing procedure (and having no way of knowing how much you'll be injured until you try), makes it seem like eventually only the very desperate or foolish will try to become Drivers as compatibility becomes rarer again over time. This could impede their intended role as monitors of humanity if there were too few of them active at a given time, as well as make it harder to keep evolving alongside them. Admittedly they make the first "death" from a rejection in the game ambiguous enough to say that perhaps he was badly hurt, but a sidequest later has a kid who explicitly says their father was killed from being incompatible with a Core Crystal, so death is indeed a threat.
234** Perhaps the idea is that a blade's master needs to be someone who is brave enough to go out into the world with their blade and accumulate a wide range of experiences, even if the monsters present in nearly every area would make that difficult. If people know that they could get harmed for trying to resonate with a Core Crystal, then it helps weed out the people who might resonate with their blade, and then end up hiding in their house with it for the rest of their life. Or it could just be an unintended consequence of how Core Crystals are designed that was never given the opportunity to be fixed, and not an intentional feature.
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237[[folder:Nia's former Driver?]]
238* Is there anything official in the game or otherwise that says if it was Nia's "father" or her "sister" who was her previous Driver? We know she became a Flesh Eater using the girl's cells, so I'd always assumed she was the Driver, but on a wiki and some updated entries here they instead state that the girl's father was Nia's Driver, and that he had her take in his daughter's flesh after her death so that she could keep "living" through Nia. It makes some sense that he would be the Driver rather than his deathly-ill daughter (we know he sought healing Blades), yet for the life of me I can't recall anything in the game that said this was how it happened (the alternative being that the girl was Nia's Driver and Nia got infused while the girl was still alive).
239** It's not confirmation, but there is a line of speculation that can give us an answer. Namely we may have an answer if we interpret Mythra's description of a Blade's bond with their Driver to be literal. If a Blade and Driver are indeed one in body and soul, then it makes sense that only the "body" of their Driver can be successfully infused into them in a way that enables them to not return to their core. That infused piece of their Driver's body and soul continues to live, or at least function, inside the Blade, enabling the Blade to retain their form and memories despite their Driver's independent body having died (hence why multiple times a Flesh Eater is described as having a "human life" inside them). Likewise, the former Jin described the process of becoming a Flesh Eater as a way of creating a bond between the Blade and their "partner," further suggesting that not just any flesh can create a Flesh Eater. And so since Nia's "father" refers to Nia's new state as her "sister" living on inside her, the most likely scenario is that she was Nia's Driver.
240** What complicates things is that Blades almost immediately disappear after their Driver dies, as shown with Vandham and Roc. If Nia’s “sister” WAS her Driver, then Nia would have had to have been infused with her “sister”’s cells BEFORE her sister died, or AS SHE WAS DYING. Otherwise, Nia just would have reverted to a Core Crystal for a fresh incarnation, with no memory of her “sister” or “father”.
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243[[folder:Amalthus and Malos]]
244* Why did they start fighting each other? It seems like they both still share the same goal of [[OmnicidalManiac destroying everything]]. If they'd worked together they almost certainly would have succeeded.
245** A major reason for that is indicated during Amalthus' final scene where he states he cannot die before he's met the Architect and erased everything with his own hands. He wants the world to end, but he wants it to be done on his terms and he wants to be the one to do it. As for Malos, having inherited Amalthus' hatred of humans means Malos hates Amalthus to some extent as well and thus stopped working with him as soon as he no longer needed him.
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248[[folder:[[spoiler:Only [=3/4=] of a transport]]]]
249* The reason why the Architect is the way that he is now is because Klaus' creative half was left behind in the modern-day Alrest, while his God-seeking half was transported to the World of the Titans to become Zanza. However, if only half of Klaus, who kickstarted the project to create a new universe, was transferred, how exactly did Galea make it in one piece to become Meyneth? Why didn't one half of her stay behind in the old world?
250** One fan theory is that Galea did split in half, one half becoming the Infernal Guldo. The only real evidence for this is that the ID tag Rex finds on the Guldo looks like her, but this could have been a case of a reused asset and isn't followed up on regardless. On the other hand, Klaus notes "many" people disappeared into distant dimensions when he performed his experiment. It's possible only he was split in two, perhaps because he was at the epicenter of the event (Galea was very near him admittedly, but perhaps that simply meant she got to go to the same universe as the part of Klaus that became Zanza). Klaus likewise thinks he was split in two as punishment, and if this is the case then there'd be no reason for Galea to also be split. Since we aren't given a concrete explanation beyond this for why Klaus was split in half, we can't speculate much on why Galea wasn't.
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253[[folder: Lora's fate]]
254* Does the game ever say how (or when exactly after [[spoiler:the fall of Torna]]) Lora [[spoiler:passed away?]] Or is it more or less left to the player's imagination?
255** Yes, it's part of a major flashback in the main game. You may want to search for and watch it rather than read a description here.

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