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1	[[WMG: The sequel titles.]]
2	If the first one (1997) was ''I Know What You Did Last Summer'', then the second (1998) should've been '' I Still Know What You Did Two Summers Ago'', and the third something like ''I'll Always Know What You Did Three...Um, '96 Was It? Yeah, Three Summers Ago''.
3	* The execs apparently gave a pretty weak BS response to people questioning the title of the second, and as for the third, it had Willis going after new characters, who were unrelated to the events of the first two.
4	* Well technically at the end of the first film Julie and Ray "killed" Willis again and covered up the reason he was stalking them. So he could very well be mad about that particular summer rather than the original summer, so it's still "last summer". As for the third film, as someone already stated he's stalking and killing a new group of people for what they did their own previous summer ago.
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6	WhatHappenedToTheMouse So what happened to Julie at the end of the second film? Going by the third film, I'm guessing it was[[spoiler: Zombie!Ben]] who attacked her, but did Julie survive? And Ray, for that matter?
7	* We have no real way of knowing their fate unless another sequel or WordOfGod addresses it.
8	* For what it's worth, Jennifer Love Hewitt (along with Brandy and Freddie) were contracted to do a third film according to WordOfGod (their contracts eventually expired). So, presumably the final scene was yet another dream sequence.
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10	[[WMG: Max's death.]]
11	Why was Max killed in the first movie? I can see why Elsa and the police officer were killed as they were between the killer and a victim but Max wasn't. He had nothing to do with the accident and leaving the Fisherman for dead either, so there was no apparent reason for killing him.
12	** WordOfGod says that Max was killed off to show that the killer was a real threat to the protagonists. It was added in re-shoots. If you notice, no one in the film actually dies until [[spoiler: Barry at the pageant]] without it. Max's death adds that suspense. In-universe, it's sort of implied that the killer followed the kids to the pier and took pictures of them there. Being a fisherman himself, it's likely he witnessed the argument between Barry and Max and guessed Max was there on the night too. He might have thought he was in on the plan too and killed him like he was planning to do to the others. Alternately he knew Max was Julie's friend and so killed him to torture her.
13	** One of the last things Max does is threaten to call the cops on Barry if he comes after him again. Hell, Ben probably ''knew'' him if they both worked in the same industry in a small town, so he may have known it was likely Max would go to the police. If Max phones the cops and Barry is stuck in jail for assault, it makes it all the harder to enact his revenge.
14	** And Julie and Max were friends in the past, or at least friendly, so Julie could easily ask "did you send this note?" and he'd be like "no, what note?" and then all too quickly getting into discussions about hows and whys. If the teens start talking to the police, they risk exposing him as a killer too. Sure, a body was found washed up on the beach, but there would have to be a legal process of making sure it was the same one the teens hit; Julie just has to mention a tattoo on the wrist saying 'Suzie' and immediately it opens the discussion of 'if David Egan wasn't the one hit, how did his body end up in the ocean?' and Ben is in trouble. We don't know specifically ''what'' he was planning to do after getting revenge on the four, but it's safe to say that going to jail for murder wasn't on the to do list. In short, Max was a loose end that could derail his revenge, so he had to die.
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16	[[WMG: Will was on the boat!]]
17	This theory sort of explains two things for me. 1) How Ben survives his one-handed water excursion and 2) his son Will's intense crazy in the sequel. Will was on the boat during the climax of the first film. He followed his father's instructions to stay hidden, only to abandon ship when his father went under. So he witnessed everything that happened between Julie, Ray and his dad- and then he rescued his dad from certain death. Once safely away from the murder scene, they plot their revenge/the sequel.
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19	[[WMG: The trunk of Julie's car]]
20	So Julie opens her trunk to find Max's dead body covered in ice and live crabs, runs to tell Barry and Helen about it, and, five minutes later when she opens the trunk again, Max's body (and the ice and the crabs) are gone the trunk appears to be bone-dry. Which means: either Max was never in the trunk and Julie had a psychic vision of his death, or the killer was carrying around a spare trunk interior that, in addition to removing Max's body and cleaning up every last cube of ice, he installed (I'm assuming after removing the soiled original) in the extremely brief period in which Julie is talking to Barry and Helen. Which option is more likely?
21	** If you take a stanley knife and open a bin bag along it's long edge you end up with a good 12' by 8' tarp if you cut carefully, easily enough to make a rudimentary car boot liner. Now, I know all too well that, despite scientists trying for decades to make a material one atom thick, Tesco have already beaten them to it with their bin bags but, but but but... The dude prolly just went to Home Depot first and got gardening strength bin bags.
22	** It's a long shot but let's say that Ben was lying in wait near Julie's house for her to leave. Not unreasonable - she's bound to get news about what he did to Helen. So after she leaves, he quickly moves the stuff into his own car. If he did lay Max's body and the crabs onto some boot liner, it might actually be easier than you think. Let's say for the sake of argument that Julie had to run a bit further to Helen's house - as she doesn't stop outside it. So she has to run all the way to the house, explain to Barry and Helen what she's seen and then lead them back to the car. You can see why he did this rather than just leaving the body in Julie's car - so [[CassandraTruth no one will believe her]]. It banks on no one driving by and seeing what he's doing, but it's just about doable.
23	** The movie makes it look like Julie was very close to Helen's house when she started running, maybe a minute or two away on foot, and that it took merely perhaps five to ten minutes overall for them to arrive back to the car. However, this might only be poor editing. It's not shown how far Julie stopped her car from the house. It could have been like 10-15 minutes away on foot, which could have given the killer something like a half hour time to clear the trunk (If the movie wanted to make this clearer, it could have shown extra scenes of Julie running and walking along several streets before arriving at the house. And perhaps have them all go back to the car in another car, to hammer in the fact that the distance was significant).
24	[[WMG: Was it Elsa at the pageant in the beginning, or another Shivers sister with a StrongFamilyResemblance?]]
25	Helen's sister in that scene isn't referred to by name. She isn't wearing glasses, which Elsa does in all subsequent scenes. She also has a flashy necklace and a leather jacket, neither of which Elsa wears later in the movie.
26	* According to the script and commentary that is Elsa, and no other siblings are ever mentioned. Plus, they have the same animosity that runs throughout the film. It's possible she isn't wearing glasses because she's out partying with friends. In a blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment panning over the crowd, you can see Elsa and two friends drinking. The leather jacket and flashy necklace are also probably because she's out with friends.
27	* It's debatable about whether they have ''quite'' the same animosity in that scene. The sister at the party (who admittedly probably is Elsa based on the logic mentioned above) offers Helen a ride home and seems to insult her in a slightly less serious fashion than anything Elsa says later in the movie.
28	* I wouldn't quite say Elsa slut-shaming Helen is any less serious than Elsa's other insults throughout the film. If anything, it might be worse. However, that is undoubtedly Elsa in that scene.
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30	[[WMG: Ben Willis surviving]]

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