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9	!!FridgeBrilliance
10	* After all of his gushing over the super-redwood seeds and how his associates' discoveries will revolutionize crop production, it's not that surprising that Dr. Aronov is the only one to get Mercer's "Happy Arbor Day" joke right away. Although his specialty as a scientist is never stated, he's probably a botanist himself.
11	* At first, the crew not knowing a lot about different species, including Ed in the first episode in regards to Moclans and Xelayans (Kaylon gets a pass as their being part of the Union seems relatively recent), comes off as the crew being ignorant. Then you remember that ''The Orville'' is a (respectful) deconstruction of ''Franchise/StarTrek''. Ask a 21st century human about, say, Kenyan culture. Most would fumble with the question. Now add a bunch of planets to the mix and suddenly, Ed comes off as just inquisitive and interested in his new crew's cultures.
12	** There's also the fact that some cultures haven't fully made information about their worlds available fully. For example, Moclans told the Union that they were an all-male gendered species and specified one female every once in a while. Yet, they never revealed that they had been converting females into males after they were born. So, it seems that those that have joined the Union may have given some, but not all info, which would explain some situations like Season 1's "About A Girl" and "Cupid's Dagger".
13	* The song that the bandit plays in "About A Girl" is "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun". Considering the topic of the episode, it's somewhat appropriate.
14	* Why did The Orville's databanks contain an archive of trashy reality TV? Well, it's not like there's a lot to do when you're on an exploration vessel. And, like what happened in the episode, [[KlingonsLoveShakespeare some cultures might actually consider it high art.]]
15	** Plus, that far in the future storage space is probably really cheap. They probably have every song, film, or tv show ever made by every union culture with them.
16	** That, and there's always the potential to [[VideoGame/MassEffect3 jam an enemy's computer systems with several zettabytes of porn]], which would not only be a ''great'' ShoutOut, but fit ''perfectly'' with the show's sense of humor.
17	** Despite how horrifically stupid Reality TV is, it is, unfortunately, a part of our culture, and it will be a part of our future society's cultural historical database due to its historical impact (much like many trends of the past that we now can't understand why they were popular).
18	** Plus, multiple episodes that follow establish that people in the show's future time are ''very'' well-versed on 20th and 21st century pop culture, from recognizing advertising slogans for car rental agencies to being able to compare a spatial anomaly with something from Sesame Street.
19	* At first the shape of the Orville and it's three hollow ring engines bothered me until watching one of the space battles I realized that although the silhouette of the ship is a big oval the actual targetable area is quite limited. Especially with a pilot like Gordon at the helm shots that would normally be damaging for a more conventionally-designed ship or even the nacelle-based models in Star Trek pass harmlessly though the insanely maneuverable Union design.
20	* Of course, Pria's device could repel an energy blast but not an antique drill. The builders would have been ''prepared'' for someone to use an energy blast, but they wouldn't have thought of some centuries-old tech that would be [[Main/BreakOutTheMuseumPiece more common in a museum]] than actual use.
21	** Sometimes, [[RockBeatsLaser there's no school like old school]].
22	* Somewhere between brilliance and horror. How much you want to bet that time-traveling "acquisitions specialists" like Pria do ''extensive'' research on their time periods and targets? She would have had access to all kinds of biographical and psychological profiling information on the crew, ''especially'' Ed, all the better to know what buttons to push.
23	* Little wonder Ed isn't the slightest bit intimidated by Alara's fighting ability and SuperStrength. Just look how tough ''Grayson'' is. Grayson either broke him of the idea that a guy should be intimidated by a woman who could kick his ass, or Ed is a downplayed AmazonChaser.
24	** Another possibility that he has a bit of an inferior complex. After all, he does have TWO anti-bullying laws named after him.
25	* Moclas being an industrialized planet that specializes in military manufacture and military culture makes a lot of sense when you remember that Moclans are all male. Moclas is an example of toxic masculine culture at its apex. Why bother about the environment when one can make weapons that make bigger explosions. Why go on a candle light dinner when a combat simulation will do. Moclas and the Moclans are the male ego taken up a notch.
26	** Further to this, they have industrialised misogyny
27	* Mercer describes Kermit the Frog as an ideal leader, which sounds absurd until you consider the [[Franchise/TheMuppets literal circus]] that Kermit is tasked with wrangling. Kermit really ''is'' a pretty talented leader, given the highly dissimilar folks he has working as a team (most of the time).
28	* The Krill, the Caylon, and the Cailvon are intended to be reflections of humanity's various racist attitudes to other humans over the centuries as projected into a spacefaring civilization. The Krill in particular seem to be a reflection of pre-Modern European racism towards other groups - such as seeing others as soulless with the same sort of arguments that have historically been made to justify oppression and enslavement.
29	* "Old Wounds" may very well be a PunBasedTitle, given the plot's MacGuffin being a time distortion ray. Both times the distortion ray is used, the victims ended up being decades older within moments.
30	* In "Majority Rules", why didn't they just use their hacking of the Master Feed to stop or slow down the Down-Votes instead of trying to sway public opinion in John's favour. ''Simple'', if they did that then chances are that at least some people would have noticed and then the planet's population could've easily been thrown into mass panic when they realize that their ''entire Justice System'' can be compromised.
31	* Also in "Majority Rules" the plot of the week depending on Lamarr dry-humping a statue for no apparent reason. With the reveal in "New Dimensions" that Lamarr is actually a certified genius, [[TallPoppySyndrome who was forced to hide his intellect.]] Then his actions become a result of him overcompensating when trying to hide the fact that he is a lot more [[ObfuscatingStupidity intelligent than he lets on.]]
32	* Isaac's 'petting' of Gordon. Yes, it's a moment of funny. But given that he was just told what having a pet is and how to bond with it, take a moment then to realize what he's doing. He's ''trying to bond'' with Gordon.
33	* Let's look at what we know of the crew so far. We have Ed, who got his command after nearly self-destructing due to the divorce because Kelly pulled strings. We have Alara, who subverts her PlanetOfHats by being brawn when her species prizes brains. We have John, the genius who was forced to massively underachieve just to avoid being ostracized. We have Gordon, the [[Franchise/MassEffect Joker-level]] pilot who can't keep [[TheAlcoholic off the sauce]] or out of trouble. We have Isaac, the only Kaylon in the Union (and whose species openly view the Union as inferior). [[ArmyOfThievesAndWhores On paper or as individuals they would all be the bottom of the barrel, despite being trained professionals.]] [[ReassignedToAntarctica They may have even been set up to fail.]] And somehow, ''because'' they put all the nuts on that boat, the end result is a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome.
34	* Isaac makes a small but notable change in speech in "Mad Idolatry" when he offers to stay on the planet for 700 years. He notes that 'his body' would survive versus something like 'I would survive'. It's unusual because normally he speaks and acts like his body is him (as it is for organics). But considering what he's offering to do, he's probably trying to help his fellow officers overcome resistance to the idea by disassociating his body with him.
35	* The Moclan drink opsada which isn't meant to be excreted, but it does for Ed. This is actually a nice little CallBack to the first episode, where it's mentioned that Moclans go to the bathroom only once a year. Also probably an aversion of NoBiochemicalBarriers; the parasite might not be able to grow inside the human system, having evolved for the Moclan one.
36	* In ''Into The Fold'', there's a throwaway gag about the damage reports including some Ensign reporting that he spilled soy sauce on his pants. That ''is'' damage, albeit ''personal property'' damage, that may be pertinent to the report.
37	* Little wonder Alara wasn't about to buy Darulio's CultureJustifiesAnything line and shrug off the damage he caused. First, she's security chief, and three compromised senior officers amounts to sabotage. Secondly, due to the delicate negotiations that are going sour due to said compromise of the officers, the ship is in danger from not only the fleets around the planet, but the parties aboard the ship. Thirdly? In Earth-normal gravity, Alara probably has to be on guard ''all the time'' not to accidentally snap someone's arm or their neck, even when justifiably enraged. Darulio shrugging off his species ability as "I can't help it" would definitely press a BerserkButton on someone who ''always'' has to be mindful of hers.
38	* Teleya's belief that Belloq is the hero of ''Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk'' is indicative of the cultural blinkers she has on. In that film, it is Belloq's arrogance and single-minded[=/=]shortsighted pursuit of the power of the Ark of the Covenant that resulted in himself and the Nazis horrifically dying, but the fact is that she probably saw the Nazis as the good guys because they are similar to the Krill in trying to take resources from neighboring lands (much like the Krill have been doing with neighboring sectors), due to their belief in their own superiority and the supposedly inherent inferiority of everyone else.
39	* Alara's departure, while sad, is also understandable from another angle. That treatment that Dr. Finn proposed is experimental and theoretical. It has no guarantee of restoring her strength, and risks making her condition worse. The tried and true method of returning to her homeworld is the only sure way of going about it, and Alara would never want to risk being anything less than her best.
40	* Mercer's gambit with the real codes leading to a fake database of authentic-looking and completely bogus information? That is less likely to be a standard operating procedure and more likely to be a ''Mercer'' operating procedure. Think about an argument Ed and Kelly have had over several episodes; Kelly has pointed out time and again that Ed may have to sacrifice her for the sake of a mission. Ed would know this, but he's also the type to have a [[CrazyPrepared plan in place]] for when, not if, some enemy pulls an [[IHaveYourWife I have your ex-wife]]. It also fits with his GuileHero style; an enemy is never going to know for sure if they got the real information or a load of good looking bullshit until they sort through it, which would buy Mercer time to figure out a rescue plan.
41	* In the episode "Ja'loja" of Season 2, Ed tells Cassus that Kelly is a fan of the rock band Journey. The first hint that Kelly liked Journey was seen in Season 1, Episode 9, "Cupid's Dagger." The song "Any Way You Want It" is the song she sings during karaoke. And in Season 2, Episode 4, "Nothing Left On Earth Excepting Fishes," her love of Journey is on display, as she has the cover art for the band's seventh studio album, "Escape," hanging on the wall in her office.
42	* Talla, from her first appearance, is clearly more confident and self-possessed than Alara, despite both of them coming from a society that's implied to disdain military service. She later mentions that she comes from a family of "black sheep", with a tradition of joining the military. That implies that Talla grew up comfortable with the idea that academia wasn't the only career choice, likely has had a much better support system, and isn't plagued with doubts about her career choices or pressure to prove herself. All of this would naturally lead to her being more at home on a Union ship than Alara ever was.
43	* Xelayans being fast-tracked in the military makes sense in light of "Home." They may not be able to stay long in Earth-normal gravity without suffering poor health, which would make their careers short but eventful.
44	* At first glance, Xelayan super-strength would appear to be perfect for military purposes, but Xelayans have a cultural preference for intellectual pursuits. But the fact that Alara has to return home after spending too much time in normal gravity makes it clear that their strength is AwesomeButImpractical and the vast majority of Xelayans are actually unfit for military careers. Talla coming from a military family suggests that the ability to spend extended periods in normal gravity is a rare inherited trait. The Xelayan cultural insistence on intellectualism and looking down on military service is most likely a case of MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch.
45	* It might initially seem strange that it can be made to rain on the bridge, but consider: as with most series of this type, the crew is made up mostly of Earth-type humans, along with a handful of token RubberForeheadAliens who are apparently from worlds with similar environments. But the producers have been pretty ambitious in including StarfishAliens, making it clear the Union is very diverse. Since the rain obviously had no negative effect on control systems, Union ships are likely designed with adaptable environmental configurations, and there may be ships crewed predominantly by people who are more comfortable in, say, a very rainy environment.
46	** It may also just be the bridge's sprinkler system, co opted for a rain-like effect.
47	* A number of details about Issac's home-world and the Kaylonians in general may seem impractical or illogical for such an advanced, artificial species. Most would chalk this up to [[RubberForeheadAlien budget restraints]], but said details are cleverly vindicated later.
48	** Why are the Kaylons stuck in clunky humanoid bodies? Being A.I., they could download into any shell they choose (such as floating orbs, for example). One would assume that actors in costumes were cheaper than the CGI or practical effects that would demand, but it's revealed that their creators were originally humanoid, and they were likely built to resemble them.
49	** The security on Kaylon is downright pathetic for such a hyper-advanced species. Even though they're obsessed with intellect, they're not competent enough to prevent a small child from waltzing right by them. However, since most ships that got anywhere close to Kaylon would have been blown up, ground security is probably of little concern, and in any case, the Orville never had any chance of escaping and the crew was helpless from the get-go. So what if Ty found out their dirty little secret? They were going to tell them anyway.
50	** There are apparently no chairs on the planet, yet there are guide rails and doors (things that a robot wouldn't use). Even the architecture doesn't match the inhabitants; large swaths of floor space are complacently empty (even though the Kaylons have no concept of personal space) and many buildings seem almost abandoned. One would naturally assume that the producers had to make do with whatever set was available. Yet it all makes sense in context when you realize those buildings were never built for the Kaylons in the first place, but their organic creators. The robots are essentially squatting in the ruins of the race they drove to extinction and simply haven't bothered to modify it.
51	** They are also a race of very advanced robots who feel very comfortable in their superiority. They likely feel no imperative to improve their designs, and CreativeSterility (already a big problem for AI) has probably kicked in hard. It's probably going to end up as their FatalFlaw, since [[HumansAreSpecial humans adapt quickly]] and the Kaylon probably ''can't.''
52	* In ''A Happy Refrain'' Ed reminds Malloy to be careful about what he says to Bortus hinting at Malloy's hidden potential and Ed connecting the dots on Bortus' change of heart.
53	* How is the ship able to put up with the massive beating it takes in "Identity?" Because it had its shields upgraded two episodes earlier by the Moclans so it can take far more hits than a regular Union ship. Isaac also made a few tweaks to the shield frequencies during his HeelFaceTurn, which were likely ''specific'' to defending against his own people.
54	* If Isaac has head-guns, why didn’t he use them during the siege in “Into the Fold”? He was probably not supposed to let the biologicals know he has them. He’ll probably use them occasionally now that things have changed.
55	* Why did the random frequency trick work? Computers are ''very'' bad at actually generating random numbers. If you need something truly random, then an organic (''especially'' a small child button-mashing) is going to out-do the AI.
56	* Why would the Krill be happy to take out Kaylons? Well, there ''might'' be some debate behind the scenes as to whether or not other organics may be able to have or obtain souls. But MechanicalLifeforms? ''Perfectly'' justified in saying they're JustAMachine and fit for destruction. Add that the Krill seem to have a side order of ProudWarriorRace going on, and they're probably drooling over a chance to nuke a few abominations for Avis's glory.
57	* Speaking of Avis, Gordon flying a Krill fighter? He probably had a chance to test one out when he and Ed took that ''entire'' warship back to Union Command. As for why the Krill let him? They were likely shy on pilots after the attack, and those craft look vaguely suicidal to be piloting anyway. They probably figured that if he wanted to try harder and die for the glory of Avis in honorable combat, why not let him "[[StealthPun rent]]" one of their craft?
58	* In hindsight, Isaac trying to dump Claire in "A Happy Refrain" makes sense. He was probably trying to keep himself from getting too attached, only to end up hit with a form of InLoveWithTheMark. Likewise, the Kaylons deciding to pull the plug the instant he and Claire told the boys (making it a "serious" relationship) was probably the Kaylons realizing that Isaac was GoingNative and was going to be a liability to their plans...which, they turned out to be dead-right on, especially when Primary managed to [[PapaWolf piss him off by threatening Ty.]]
59	* Primary tried to convince Isaac that organics, particularly humans, weren't worth saving by bringing up the history of slavery and giving him a copy of ''Literature/{{Roots}}.'' Isaac downloads it, but it doesn't change his opinion. Why? He's had access to the whole ship's computer, including the media archives. Ten to one, he already read it (or similar works) well before Primary tried that stunt. On a meta level, Ty's ethnicity would play into Isaac realizing that Primary, like a lot of "liberators", is full of shit and more interested in power than justice.
60	* It should also be noted that [[Recap/TheOrvilleS1E12MadIdolatry Isaac has witnessed]] - first hand, over ''centuries'' - an organic species evolve completely beyond their incredibly warlike ways, and has watched their society develop intellectually, emotionally, socially, and technologically, to a point far in advance of the Union, and possibly even the Kaylons. He's not merely of the opinion that humanity and many other species are capable of shifting from violent to benevolent, he's ''experienced it,'' in a manner that no other Kaylon could likely fully understand, no matter how many status reports he sent them. He simply ''knows'' that Primary's perspective is flat-out factually wrong, and has clear evidence-based proof to back him up.
61	* [[Series/StarTrekVoyager Tim Russ's]] guest role in "Lasting Impressions" is a goldmine of Fridge-Funny. [[{{Film/Spaceballs}} Lord Helmet,]] this time [[MemeticMutation we found lots of sh*t!]]
62	* Also for "Lasting Impressions:" Laura's house. It's hard to believe that a Macy's manager could afford a place that big and nice, all by herself, ''especially in New York.'' But the whole program was created from information on the phone. The house the simulation gave her was probably nothing like the home she really lived in. It was probably her affluent parents' home, which she'd have more pictures of on her phone. (After all, what location is a single adult most likely to be taking photos in? Their own home, where nothing remarkable usually happens, or the place where the family has most of their get-togethers?)
63	* Also, why Laura and all her friends looked like TV stars. (In universe-that is.) We can assume everyone on the Orville has perfect-for-TV hair and skin, and never has wrinkled clothing, because of future cosmetics. But very few people in 2015 looked as perfectly clean and made-up as Laura and her friends...except at events when one would be taking photos. Or making a recording for a time capsule. Of course Laura would look her best for her time capsule video. And everyone who appears in her photos will either be looking better than usual, and/or look better due to a small photo not showing things like acne or greasy unwashed hair.
64	** Alternatively, the holo-simulation automatically "cleaned up" all the figures it drew from Laura's photos.
65	* Basically, it's rather ironic that when trying to express their concern for Gordon's fantasy, no one brings up the obvious issue of how wildly inaccurate the simulation probably is. The people populating "Laura's" life are surely just figures pulled from her photos, many of whom might just be friends' friends or people caught in the background who she wouldn't really have known well, or at all; the aforementioned house, and pristine looks; and finally, the simple fact that the phone can only show the tip of the iceberg of who Laura was. Who knows what passions, habits, conflicts, and so forth the real woman dealt with every day, and would've brought up to a boyfriend, that she wouldn't mention too often on her phone?
66	* In ''Sanctuary'' the Moclans threaten to leave the Union over a fight about gender identity, but in ''A Tale of Two Topas'', they accept an obvious excuse not to withdraw over a similar issue. Between those incidents, Krill's government was taken over by a radically xenophobic faction that denounces ''all'', which would put a damper on their plan to seek a Krill alliance. If the Moclans withdrew at that point, they'd be on their own against the Kaylon.
67	* Telaya is so committed to her xenophobia that she murders her predecessor for seeking a treaty with outsiders. Yet, a few episodes later, she's willing to enter an alliance with the Moclans, who are just as alien, who also don't share their religion, and who are openly misogynistic. What changed? In the first instance, she had just gained power, and had zero political experience. It's easy for a rabble-rouser to take an absolute position and reject all compromise. But after spending some time in charge, with the weight of responsibility on her shoulders and the reality of their position sinking in, it's entirely possible that she'd become more open to pragmatic politics, even if her core beliefs stayed the same.
68	* Yes, Ed is still very much in love with Kelly. The season ending two parter indicates she feels the same, but TheChainsOfCommanding are holding her back. The brilliance is that Ed would have told ''himself'' all those same things at one point or another, and realizes that those were the reasons he torpedoed his marriage to her, which he views as the biggest mistake he ever made. He also knows Kelly isn't happy. If she were, he would back off as we saw with Cassius. But he's watching her make the mistakes he made, which is hurting them both.
69	* On a more poignant note, Kelly's love of Music/{{Journey\|Band}} has a meta bit of brilliance. Many of their songs ("Faithfully," "Wheel in the Sky," "Open Arms") are about reunion after a separation.
70	* If Union/Earth law is anything similar to U.S. law, then ''ex post facto'' laws would likely be unconstitutional, so in [[Recap/TheOrvilleSeason3E06TwiceInALifetime Twice In a Lifetime]], how would the Union be able to charge Gordon with legal violations under laws (and a government) that had yet to technically exist at the time of commission?
71	** Obviously the founders wouldn't have foreseen the advent of time travel as raising questions regarding the ''ex post facto'' clauses, so it's quite possible that the courts would opt to uphold them, and it's also possible that charges could stem from the subsequent actions taken after the act of time travel; ie. a person time traveled while in the time period when the laws existed, and then committed the criminal acts, so the violations themselves derive from the act of time travel itself.
72	* In ''Shadow Realms'' Bortus is concerned when Claire says she is going to release a virus on par with the common cold and, when told he might get the sniffles, he stoically says that he is prepared. It may just be Bortus being overly dramatic as usual, but when you remember that Moclus is a planet of toxic hyper-masculine traits, Bortus is worried about catching a man cold!
73	** Especially if Klyden is also sick and there's no one to take care of them!
74	* Mercer was a wreck — how did he get a command? Gordon Molloy was a walking discplinary action — how did Mercer convince the Fleet to give him another go? Yes, Kelly was lobbying behind Mercer's back, and yes, given their shared history, Mercer was probably the only captain who could keep Gordon in line, and yes the Union was short of captains. But still: at the very least it's an entire starship and the lives of over a hundred people. When Mercer found out that Kelly had been pulling strings he had a complete BSOD, convinced that it was the only reason he had a command. His problem was crippling Imposter Syndrome. Kelly helped the Union see that, which helped convinced them that Mercer would be fit to command given the right crew (they weren't short on options). Mercer didn't care about the crew except for insisting on Gordon. So why him? Mercer had an ulterior motive: Gordon would be the only person on the Orville that Mercer could be "Ed" with, instead of "Captain"; Gordon wouldn't need Mercer laboriously projecting a confidence he didn't feel to have confidence in him. The Union saw the same thing, so as well as agreeing to Mercer's recommendation, made their own subtler contribution to Ed's mental health: Kelly Grayson. After some rocky beginnings, it looks like Captain Mercer's self-image is living up to the reality.
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76	!!Fridge Horror
77	* In ''The Road Not Taken'', it's revealed that, had Ed and Kelly not been on ''The Orville'', the Kaylon would have destroyed earth and driven humanity at least to the brink of extinction. But in "Pria", we see a human time traveler from a future in which the Orville was destroyed, and it's implied that humanity is doing just fine at that point. That suggests at least the possibility that, had ''The Orville'' been destroyed when it was supposed to, the Kaylon invasion would have never happened. By refusing to go with her, they altered the timeline, and possibly in a disastrous way.
78	* When Pria takes The Orville to her own time, she is greeted by an alien ship. What interest would an alien have in this vessel, and whither the Union? While 'timeline fixing' plotlines are used in this series just as in any other Sci-Fi show, whether the implication is a weakened Union or a weakened human species in Pria's timeline, we are left to wonder 'What Went Wrong'?
79	* Any members of the collection in episode 1X02 within hearing distance of the new display of 21st-century Reality Television, which they will now be listening to whenever the zoo is open for the rest of their days. Seems like a FateWorseThanDeath.
80	** Alternately, depending on their own tastes, they might find it [[HumansThroughAlienEyes downright fascinating.]] We do see one of the imprisoned aliens trying to see past the Calivon crowd to see what's on the screen.
81	* In one respect, the ''Orville'' crew were actually '''very lucky''' that the Calivon don't care more about "inferior" species. Had they taken enough interest to do a thorough scan of the ''Orville'' and its occupants, the Head Zookeeper might well have seen fit to capture the entire vessel, despite Isaac's protests: if a couple of random humans are a rare and valuable exhibit, how much more priceless would he consider a soon-to-be-hatched ''female Moclan'' to be?
82	* It's a throwaway gag in "About a Girl" that Ed has an anti-bullying bill named for him. Seeing as, in RealLife, those bills usually come about because someone was killed or injured to the point of being ''near'' death from the abuse, there may be some elements of DarkAndTroubledPast at work.
83	* Another bit of Fridge Horror, same episode. Moclans want to claim that a female birth is a very rare thing that must be "corrected" immediately. Yet, in the episode, we see three examples of Moclans born with the "condition" (two forcibly corrected, one left to develop, but forced to keep her gender a secret). It's possible that it's a lot more common than anyone admits to, much like the Trill in Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine covering up the fact that fifty percent can support a symbiont, but this is hidden to give Trill that fail to qualify as hosts a publicly acceptable reason why they failed, instead of being publicly outed as having whatever issue actually disqualified them.
84	** Confirmed in 'Sanctuary'. The Moclan rates of Female births are actually very common; they are, like the mentioned example, a suppressed statistic.
85	* That generation ship has been under the control of a theocracy for decades, if not centuries. Sure, they literally opened the sky and handed log access to the heretics, but belief systems die very hard. Worse, they implied that the prairie was only ''part'' of the ship's population, and that there were even more people in the lower decks.
86	** Further to this, the population are utterly unaware of even the concept of 'night'. Sudden exposure to the blackness of space could have [[Literature/Nightfall1941 catastrophic results]]
87	* Unless the Krill destroyer from episode six is some sort of exception, then there were possibly Krill children "trainees" on every ship the Orville has destroyed thus far.
88	* "Krill" establishes that the Krill species comes from a homeworld where very little sunlight penetrates the cloud cover, making the Krill fatally vulnerable to ultraviolet light. The Union colonies we have seen them attack look like Earth-type planets, which means that they would be unsuitable for Krill habitation without massive terraforming. That indicates that they are not simply attacking in order to conquer new planets for their own occupation. They really are just committing genocide for its own sake and may not even bother to use these worlds otherwise.
89	** The Krill frequently mention resources and the non-krill having no rights to them, it could be they attack colonies with the intention to strip-mine the planet and leave it.
90	* The ''Orville'' has thus far battled three Krill destroyers - and won, yes, but just barely and courtesy of some clever tricks. Consider, though, that with just a few exceptions like the Imperial Navy from ''Franchise/StarWars'', destroyers are among the smaller ships in a combat fleet, and Krill destroyers are noticeably larger than the ''Orville''. What must the Krill equivalent of a heavy cruiser be like? And what chance would our heroes have against one?
91	** It is some consolation that the Union is also shown to have their own larger flavors of ships, like the one ''Orville'' rendezvoused with in "Krill". Also, it's worth noting that the status of "Destroyer" as referring to a smaller warship is a bit arbitrary and subject to linguistic drift. In the modern US Navy, for example, Destroyers are among the largest warships in service, second only to a small handful of older ''Ticonderoga'' class cruisers which mostly only distinguish themselves by being able to carry more [[MacrossMissileMassacre missiles.]] The UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo era ''Fletcher'' Class was 376 feet long, the modern ''Arleigh Burke'' Class is 509 feet long, longer than many pre-UsefulNotes/WorldWarOne ''battleships''.
92	** Also, Bortus identifies the Krill vessel in "Krill" as a battlecruiser even though it appears externally identical to the destroyers seen in earlier episodes, implying that the destroyers might be a lighter version of their battlecruisers built on a similar hull but equipped for a different mission (presumably with lighter shields and/or weapons and less extensive command and control facilities). This would parallel many real-life examples; for instance, the US Navy's ''Ticonderoga'' class cruisers were built on essentially the same hull as the ''Spruance'' class destroyers (lengthened by four feet), and many World War II light cruisers were similar in dimensions to their heavy cruiser contemporaries with the primary difference being lighter armour and smaller guns. Conversely, being a "mid-level exploratory vessel," the ''Orville'' is not necessarily the Union equivalent of a frigate or destroyer (if we consider the probable heavy cruiser USS ''Olympia'' seen in "Krill" equivalent to a ''Constitution'' or ''Excelsior'' class starship from Franchise/StarTrek, ''Orville'' could be equivalent to the small ''Oberth'' or ''Nova'' class research ships, with a ''Miranda'' class analog falling somewhere in between).
93	* What happens if that Krill child who inspired Mercer to use the UV attack realizes what he did as he gets older? He's partially responsible for his entire ship being horribly burned alive. This is especially horrific if his parents were among the crew.
94	* "Majority Rule" is running on 55-gallon drums of Fridge Horror. Cameras are ''everywhere'', no one ''dares'' express an opinion that could be offensive or ask a question that could be construed the wrong way. Even the wrong choice of hat or being too distracted could get you a lobotomy. No one wants facts. No trial. No rule of law. And how long until the one person the Orville's crew managed to work with gets found out about her decision to turn off the Master Feed and how soon will that get ''her'' enough down votes to be turned into a vegetable? It's also worth noting that even 25th century Union medicine (at least 400 years ahead of what's on that planet) is unable to reverse the brain damage caused by "Correction". Claire states that a victim is basically completely lobotomized and there is nothing she can do.
95	** Probably worst of all, view the native girl's actions on that planet and her rationale for doing so, particularly at the start and end of that episode. At the start, she just blindly reaches for the downvote button on her TV while absentmindedly talking on the phone and she nearly does the same thing at the end of the episode. If she is truly representative of the society of Sargus 4, then we've got a planet that determines EVERYTHING by popular vote, including whether to lobotomize people, what food they should eat, what medical treatments are considered effective, and so on, while few if anyone actually pays any attention to any actual reasons for downvoting or upvoting anybody, just doing it for the sheer sake of it. A smear campaign could result in treatments that could save millions of lives being thrown out as useless because of this system, while literal poison could be considered a life extending miracle with enough of a publicity campaign and kill countless people before anybody realizes it enough to start downvoting it. Then there's the whole "reconditioning" that could easily be decided by a bunch of downvoting on a master feed anyone hardly pays any attention to and just downvotes out of habit.
96	** There is also the fact that this true democracy (in the Athenian sense) is already corrupted and manipulated by public relations and marketing experts. The last-ditch tricks that Isaac pulled to save John may be even more pervasive than the public imagines and any number of conspirators could be working to deliberately flood the network with lies. Everybody ''seems'' to have a vote, but nobody has any ''real'' rights and the system is probably already corrupt.
97	** There's also how dangerous cyberbullying/trolling could be in this society. Imagine if a bunch of teenagers decided they wanted to mess with a fellow student for whatever reason; if they were organized enough, they could get them lobotomized.
98	*** That might have already been a consideration. You don’t get a badge until you turn 18, presumably to protect children from the whims of public sentiment. I’m willing to bet children are also banned from voting on the feed.
99	*** Possible though we do have one example of someone who got a lot of downvotes when she was younger. How young that means is never mentioned. And it is an odd example because on one hand, it's suggested that she has a hard time getting any kind of service, but she's also present as at least above homeless (she's wearing a pants suit and can pay for service).
100	*** The woman in question who got a lot of downvotes states on screen that she got those downvotes in her 20's. It's never made clear if she is being honest about that or just trying to gain sympathy.
101	** The episode also establishes that ethnicity and nationalities play a factor in this world, so if enough of one group of people are prejudiced towards someone for their ethnicity or nationality alone, they could start to down vote them just based on that. And we know how persistent trolls can be in our own social media, so it isn't impossible to imagine that at least one innocent person has been lobotomized based on negative votes based upon, say, the color of their skin, instead of any of their personal actions.
102	** A further horror comes in how easily Isaac and the crew save John. Never mind the power of a company or group to enforce themselves on themselves or the rest... all it took was Isaac flooding their internet with ''fake'' postings to change mass opinion (or at least, mass voting). That's it; Isaac wasn't even manipulating the system but just using what was already there. A group could literally just make something up to get votes - no matter how untrue - and so it would go. This could be malicious, sure, but it could also be a group of people 'making a joke' or what not and that joke could end up as law, as punishment, as... anything. Further still, look at how easy it is for other places on the internet in our world to radicalize themselves - imagine an up/down voted community with 500k people rallying behind one thing or another and that having real legitimate sway over simple due to numbers.
103	* "Majority Rule" also gets more horror-ish when you realize that the constant surveillance and policing of the population was NOT done by a government nor enforced by it. Instead, it was done willingly by the people themselves, at all levels - from detection to enforcement to execution - and at all forms - from publicity officers to talk show hosts to officers of the law.
104	** It might be that all of this is overstated, simply by sheer numbers. Much like our own social media, the vast majority exist in virtual anonymity, and probably spend more time trying to get upvotes than worrying about downvotes. That might actually motivate people to be ''more'' polite and helpful than they otherwise would be. The only people we see on “trial” are aliens to the culture who didn’t grow up learning how to navigate public opinion, and also how to look properly remorseful, so it might actually be a rare occurrence. That said, while John’s jackassery was pretty egregious, it’s odd how not relinquishing a seat on a bus went viral to the degree it did.
105	* Pretty much most of "Into the Fold", which lands Isaac, Claire and her two sons on an AfterTheEnd world filled with TechnicallyLivingZombie people.
106	** Why does Claire's captor have a holding cell inside the apartment he is using as a sanctuary from the feral members of his race? It seems likely that she is not the first person he has "rescued" for companionship...
107	** Likewise, the attacking horde of zombie people seems to consist entirely of males. Are the females all dead, or are they all being kept as prisoners? Did the males outcompete them? (Although, to be fair, this species may simply all resemble human males more than human females.)
108	** Or, it could be possible that the reason why he knows so much was that he was able to capture one of the infected and did tests on them, ala I Am Legend by Richaed Matheson.
109	* Darulio is a walking bomb of Fridge Horror. That slimebag knows what his pheromones do. Even if his own culture treats sexual matters casually, he's been off-world long enough to know other cultures (like humans) do not. And as much as he claims that all it does is amp up what's already there? The whole Claire and Yaphit incident would point to it being MoreThanMindControl. And not only did he pull his pheromone roofie on ''both'' Kelly and Ed in the episode, it's entirely plausible that his ''initial'' encounter with Kelly - the one that broke up Kelly and Ed's marriage, sent Ed's career into a tailspin, and kinda trashed their lives - was due to Darulio exploiting both his pheromone roofie and Kelly's loneliness. Worse, he put the ship at risk ''and'' nearly caused a diplomatic incident that could have easily escalated into war. And the lowlife ''still'' doesn't seem to have a clue about how much damage he caused, much less have any remorse about it.
110	** One of the first things Darulio does upon facing an angry Ed is to offer to shake hands. Darulio knows that he is in heat and that his pheromones will affect anybody he touches. That implies that he was deliberately trying to use his pheromones to disarm Ed's understandable hostility towards him and the sex was just a bonus. Worse, Darulio still has sex with Kelly again, fully aware that he has Ed lined up for his next score and indeed he does ditch her to take a tumble with Ed once the pheromones kick in.
111	*** Everyone is assuming that Darulio was in heat and that he knew it primarily because of how he acts (since we haven't seen another member of his species on the show, for all we know, he may act the way he does because that's how all of his species does). However, how do we even know if he knew he was? People assume that being in heat is a regular as clockwork type of thing, like the Pon Farr from ''Star Trek'', where there's a certain period of time that elapses in between (in this case, it's seven years in between mating cycles). Did no one else think that maybe, for Darulio's species, its time and duration changes regularly? Since we do not get a clear explanation, it could be possible that it may be one day out of a year one year, it may be one day in three years the next. This would account for when he answered Kelly's question of if he was in heat when they hooked up a year before with an "I don't know": because even he can't be sure when he's in heat or not at times. For all we know, at the time the events of the episode occurred, he probably had no reason to suspect that he was in heat because he may have already had one period a short while ago or he probably assumed he was in a stretch of a long time in between the last time. That makes things both Fridge Brilliance and Fridge Horror: Fridge Brillance for an interesting twist on an alien species' reproductive system that shifts so many times that even they can't be sure when their next moment of heat is (Can anyone think of seeing something like that on ''Star Trek'' before?) and Fridge Horror for the fact that the species may not even know when they're in heat or not or when their next moment of being in heat may be coming.
112	*** The crew did not figure out that Darulio was in heat, he explicitly ''told'' Alara that he was after she confronted him about all the weird behavior. So even if he did not know when he stepped onto the ship, he had to have figured it out quickly enough. Despite that fact, he still decided to get it on with both Kelly and Ed and he showed no concern about the fact that Claire was also affected.
113	*** It is possible that Darulio didn't realize he was in heat until after he noticed how both Ed and Kelly started acting towards him during the drink date scene. Before that, he clearly seems like he has no clue about it, as if he did, he would have been more careful with physical contact, wouldn't he?
114	*** Also, his "I don't know" response to whether or not he was in heat the first time that he and Kelly had sex came across as deliberately ambiguous, and was a great way to twist the proverbial dagger even more. If he ''was'' in heat, then the whole "cheating" was an act of rape with Kelly not being able to give consent (and realizing she was raped twice by that jerk) and Ed having to live with the idea that he divorced Kelly for being ''raped.'' But it would leave a door open for them to forgive one another (as they're already starting to do) and move forward. If he was not in heat? Well, that would mean Kelly gave knowing consent, which would justify the divorce and all the fallout, but it would actually set the record straight and they can still move forward. Leaving them to doubt is the best way to hurt them both and keep them from moving forward, which gives Darulio continued power over them. (Remember, it's never about the sex, it's about ''power'' and ''control'').
115	*** Or Darulio's "I don't know" was meant for Kelly's benefit. It could be seen more as, "If blaming me makes you feel better about the whole thing that happened between us before, I'm okay with that." Basically, it could be seen as him taking the full blame for the destruction of Ed and Kelly's marriage if it makes her feel better.
116	** Aside from the issue of his sexual assault of Ed and Kelly and RapeByProxy of Claire and Yaphit (Yaphit ''did'' ask permission and had no idea Claire was dosed and not freely consenting), he left three of the senior staff unable to perform their duties during a delicate diplomatic affair on the ship. This led to a brief, but nasty skirmish between the enemy fleets that left at least a few ''hundred'' dead. At the very least, his ass should be strung up on sabotage charges and/or negligent homicide, not being allowed to leave with a shrug and a "shit happens."
117	** Something missing from all of this discussion, however, is the A-plot and how that's resolved - while it's debatable on how aware and social conscious Darulio was on his role in the Orville/Kelly and Ed, in turn, the Orville's senior officers intentionally used his pheromones on unwitting and non-consenting aliens in order to broker a peace. Whatever judgment made on Darulio must also be applied to the Orville itself because they did the same thing. Though perhaps future ethics are different or 'because it was for a good cause' may be answers, those both seem like easy outs.
118	*** It could be barely justified by necessity. The Orville was caught in a crossfire that had already left dozens of ships and hundreds of people dead and they were going to be next. ''Everyone'' was going to die unless something drastic happened. It's akin to the trolley dilemma of killing one person to save six, only with dosing the ambassadors with a LovePotion instead of having them be killed with everyone else. And it's likely that Alara and her team kept the chemically-induced lovebirds in separate rooms or took other precautions to try and mitigate the damage.
119	* "Firestorm" shows us that the Union has MindWipe technology. That is terrifying.
120	** It's probably just yet another ShoutOut to [[Franchise/StarTrek the mothership]], as the Federation has it in both [[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS2E15PenPals medical]] and [[Recap/StarTrekS3E19RequiemForMethuselah psychic]] forms.
121	** Terrifying but limited. The Doc notes that it's a very dangerous procedure and Alara had to make up an excuse of protecting top secret information to even get her to do it. So while it's there, it's clearly either difficult and/or they're very very aware it has many ethical implications.
122	* "Firestorm" also foreshadows several plot points. Isaac going rogue and his eyes turning red? A deranged Claire saying they have no idea what's coming for them? Both things turn out to be true come "Identity".
123	* In “New Dimensions,” they plow a 3-dimensional quantum bubble through the 2-dimensional universe at very high speed, including FTL. No concern is expressed for the effect this might be having on that universe.
124	** Ed specifically asks if they may be interacting harmfully with the 2D space. Both Isaac and [=LaMarr=] explain that the actual interaction is so small as to be unnoticeable. This is consistent with some scientific theories regarding how such an interaction might play out.
125	*** And for context, Ed even brings up the book Flatland, perhaps just as a bonus, perhaps as an aside reference. If so, then at most, the inhabitants would see a strange floating shape speeding through their world. (Some theories involving [=UFOs=] suggest this might be a possible origin for some sightings.)
126	* ''Mad Idolatry'' shows '''EXACTLY''' how important something like ''Star Trek's'' Prime Directive is and how one little thing, even if done with the best of intentions, can throw everything out of alignment. FridgeHorror sets in for ''Star Trek'' when you realize the Orville crew only realize how badly Kelly affected the planet because the planet advanced 700 years by going through an anomaly to an alternate universe and coming back every 11 days. Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway, Archer, and Lorca may have done a TON of damage but they wouldn't know since they're not around long enough to see how far-reaching their actions are (and Kelly only healed a little girl).
127	** But’s it’s made clear that those things would have happened regardless. It’s a natural, necessary part of a culture’s development. And cultural contamination is pretty much inevitable unless all societies become isolationist to the point of hostility. Take a look at the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island North Sentinalese people]] for a striking illustration of how that really works. If aliens showed up with a cure for cancer, I’d be pissed if they decided we “weren’t ready” and refused to share it (unless, of course, [[ToServeMan it’s a cookbook]]).
128	*** I imagined the point was less the natural development of a culture but rather ''disruption'' of that culture to the point that it is wiped out. That is, they couldn't be certain that they wouldn't cause a nuclear holocaust, bring unintended pathogens, or any number of situations that would be destructive. Intervention is probably inevitable, particularly at a point when a culture could handle an early reveal. It's also possible that it's a rule in order to discourage/prevent people from ''intentionally'' doing what Kelly did and taking over a planet - that could stop development altogether or send a species down a very dark path. Making it such a fundamental rule gives it strong legal and ethical grounds on which to stand.
129	** One that is strictly this episode's: when the shuttle crash-landed on the planet, they didn't know yet the planet shifts forward 700 years in 11 days and were not rushing to do repairs. If the shuttle hadn't been fixed in time, the Orville probably would've still figured out about the planet returning in 11 days and waited. Remember, they didn't know about shifting 700 years until the 2nd visit. By the time the planet returned, Kelly and Malloy would've been long dead, leaving Isaac to explain in great detail what happened.
130	** Some potential Fridge Horror for the Union and in fact the entire galaxy and universe. The time difference between the Union galaxy/universe and the time phasing planet and its universe is an astonishing rate. 700 years per 11 days is a breakneck pace. In a single year in the Union galaxy, 23,000 years will have passed in the other universe. Which is three times as long as 'organised' human civilization has existed for. 50 years in the Union will mean 1.1 million in the time shifted planet. In the cosmologically small timeframe of 500,000 years, the other universe will have pushed through 10 billion years. It's envisioned that star formation itself will cease after 100 trillion years, which will happen much quicker than in the Union galaxy. A species that develops in the twilight of their galaxy may invade for pure survival, to leave behind the darkness of a dying universe.
131	*** When you consider how many empires have risen and fallen, how many wars have been fought, how many countries conquered for expansion or resources or on ideological grounds on just Earth, should an empire arise on the other side and look to the Union enviously, their level of technology was already far in excess of the Union, any future invasion could be equivalent to a human exterminating a colony of ants. Even if it's less an 'invasion' and more 'sharing a room', the differences between vastly more advanced species could cause its own set of problems without needing hostility.
132	*** An invasion of the Union universe, even by an envious evil empire from this planet, would be highly unlikely. The reason being that it would take the invaders months, at the least, to conquer even just the nearest planets to this time shifting planet. Those who stayed in the Union universe to conquer it would return to find that several millennia had passed in their own universe, and whatever justification they had for their actions would be long gone. In short, the time shifting planet invading wouldn't really be worth it.
133	*** You would expect that any invasion would be considered a one-way trip. It might not even need to be an 'evil' invasion, it could be simply escaping a galactic scale atrocity or natural disaster that sends people to leave the 'future' galaxy and come into the union one.
134	* "Primal Urges": The "friend" of the alien lieutenant who cooked up that porn program? The lieutenant remarked that guys like him don't deal with Union officers much. And given just how devastating that virus was, are we sure that it ''wasn't'' an act of cyberterrorism?
135	* Another "Primal Urges" one: Because they were dealing with the fallout from said virus, that diverted resources that could have been used to retrofit a second shuttle and evacuate at least thirty more people. But even then, those people are doomed; seventy-five survivors wouldn't be enough to sustain a population. Thirty people have even less of a chance.
136	*** The real fridge logic is that the virus didn't affect the modifications to the shuttle (It only affected the Orville after they managed to get as many survivors as they could). The reason why only one was refit was because of the fact that the Orville only carries two shuttles at a time (and a ship as medium sized as the Orville may not have enough power to generate additional shuttles, meaning that any shuttles lost would be replaced at Union space stations). That means due to the fact it takes time to refit one, they couldn't refit two not only because it would have taken more time to do two and there was also the high probably of losing both shuttles (which could have lead to more problems). It falls under fridge logic as well, since it was specifically stated earlier in the episode that they were not equipt to handle a rescue like that, with or without a porn virus affecting the ship (in fact, even without the porn virus, the same problems with the time it takes to refit the shuttle and the quicker deterioration of the planet would have occurred as they did anyway).
137	** Not to mention how Isaac's scanning of the planet seems to have been suspended as soon as he located the one underground refuge. Who's to say there weren't ''more'' such squatter-bunkers scattered about the place, that were overlooked or too deep to be detected?
138	* In "A Happy Refrain," Claire Finn simulates her own quarters in the Environmental Simulator. Could anyone theoretically do this? Given the stuff we've seen holodecks used for in the ''Star Trek'' franchise, the thought is kind of horrifying.
139	* When Kelly questions if Gordon wants to take the command test just so that people think more highly of him, and assures him he’s already charming, it initially sounds sweet and heartwarming. But considering how she told John the ''exact opposite'', that he should not just coast through life as a navigator and pretty much ''forces'' him to improve himself through an unearned promotion, she’s actually being a hypocrite. Since economy is based on “reputation,” she’s essentially telling Gordon to not ask for a raise.
140	** I agree with you on this, but there is something to take into account: Gordon was already known for being the best pilot in the Union. When it came to Lamar, he had been playing the role of "dumb" for so long due to where he was raised. Since he was in the Union now, he didn't have to put on that role anymore and Kelly was giving him a chance that he didn't have to become the person he clearly had the ability to be. However, by the end of the episode, Kelly asks Gordon if he still wants to go for the command test, leaving it open for him to decide if he truly wants to or not. She may have started the episode as a bit of a hypocrite, but she didn't force Gordon to stay in that position and even left the door open for him if he wants to.
141	** A bit of brilliance and horror in that Kelly may have some personal prejudice towards Gordon. After all, they have a history with Gordon being Ed's best friend, and probably a friend Kelly only tolerated for Ed's sake. Gordon was probably witness to the divorce fallout, too, getting an earful from Ed's point of view.
142	** True, but here in this case Gordon wanted to take the command test because he felt he was only good as a pilot and wanted some more achievements under his belt. It's more akin to Gordon asking for a promotion and Kelly gently reminding him that with a promotion comes greater responsibilities.
143	** In "reputation-based economy" terms, Kelly could be seen as trying to talk Gordon out of a bad investment. It has become clear, especially post-"Identity", that Gordon is easily one of the best damn pilots the Union has. Going for a command position would mean exchanging a position where he's highly regarded (with a potential to do even better in the future) for one where he'd be mediocre at best. Kelly is in fact protecting Gordon from stunting his own potential - and by the end of the episode, it seems he's come to agree with her.
144	*** True; it's not uncommon for a highly-competent employee to be promoted beyond their capabilities to the point where they may be good at one job, but are utterly incompetent at a higher position. Think Michael Scott on ''Series/{{The Office\|US}}'', where he was said to to be the best salesman - but was a terrible manager, promoted beyond his skillset into a job he wasn't very competent at. While Gordon is the best pilot, he may not be very good as a senior officer. And in a reputation-based economy, this promotion would cost him immensely.
145	* In "Identity", Isaac was purposefully deactivated once his mission was completed. We don't actually learn if this is because the Kaylons view the individuals as disposable, or if this was a plot devised by using the data collected to determine that the Orville command crew would likely risk entering Kaylon space to save him. Not sure which option is worse, though the former begs the question of why the Kaylons expanded their numbers to a point that exceeded planet efficiency.
146	** If your verdict on the universe is [[Literature/LifeTheUniverseAndEverything "It'll have to go"]], then it would help to increase your numbers before you start demolishing planets that are in the way.
147	** Given the Kaylon are described as being assembled for specific tasks, I think it's fair to assume they considered him essentially worthless now that his task had been complete, so just shut him off. If they wanted the crew of the Orville to come to their planet, presumably they'd have told Issac to ask them to take them home, rather than just deactivated him and hope for that outcome.
148	** Isaac's entire existence certainly qualifies. It's entirely probable that he was built in response to the Union's Kaylon offer and didn't "volunteer" [[FromACertainPointOfView as he claimed]], and his color scheme, voice and mannerisms were most likely designed to fool organics into believing that the Kaylons were all as benevolent as he appeared to be. And while he has many friends in the crew of the Orville, unless he can convince some of his people to think otherwise about organics (very unlikely) or somehow starts his own offshoot Kaylon race, he will be alone just as Primary said [[YouCantGoHomeAgain because he turned his back on them]].
149	** The ease at which Isaac rips Primary's head off and then proceeds to annihilate the entire Kaylon bridge crew in a matter of seconds is both [[CatharsisFactor awesome]] and [[MookHorrorShow frightening]]. Like Data before him, if he'd ''really'' turn against the Orville then there's almost no way they'd be able to stop him. It also shows that in some earlier episodes he was clearly holding back, particularly in his arm-wrestling matches with Alara... even with her SuperStrength, he probably could have tore her arm out of its socket at any time he chose.
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151	* In "Twice in a Lifetime," Gordon is quite justified in challenging the Union's time-travel laws. Apparently, if you are trapped in the past, you are expected to spend the rest of your life in total isolation. FateWorseThanDeath indeed!
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