Line #8 DieForOurShip/Gundam


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10	The Franchise/{{Gundam}} meta-series is a BIG long runner with many different continuities. The bashing started with ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'', became mainstream with ''[[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam G Gundam]]'' and ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]]'', and ever since then it just ''won't'' stop.
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13	* [[RebelliousPrincess Relena Darlian/Peacecraft]], from the [[MostFanficWritersAreGirls fangirl-popular]] Franchise/{{Gundam}} series ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]],'' is perhaps the most famous victim of DieForOurShip ''ever'' in {{anime}}, and may be one of '''the''' most hated fictional women, along with [[Manga/RanmaOneHalf Akane Tendo]], [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Orihime Inoue]], [[Literature/HarryPotter Ginny Weasley]] and [[Manga/FushigiYuugi Miaka Yuuki]]. She is often [[{{Flanderization}} Flanderized]] as a RichBitch, a {{Yandere}}, or (sometimes) even a CardCarryingVillain by [[YaoiFangirl fans who prefer the]] Heero/Duo pairing, even though Heero/Duo is ''virtually non-existent'' throughout the series (with the HoYay technically going more towards other pairings than them), even though ''Duo himself'' is shown several times to [[ShipperOnDeck ship Heero/Relena]], and even though the lyrics to Relena's ImageSong "Always a Secret" depict her as [[NiceGirl a sweet and kind girl]] who would be [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy pretty willing to let go of Heero]] and go the MarriedToTheJob way if he fell in love with someone else. [[spoiler:And then the sequel novel ''Frozen Teardrop'', for all of its controversial writing, ended with Heero and Relena getting married.]]
14	** Technically, this happens to most of the show's female cast, since there's a 1-to-1 ratio of men to women among the primary cast -- even ones who don't express any overt signs of romantic love for their counterparts and seem to go more for friendship or partnership with the guys. Relena gets it the worst (by far) because of a bad first impression. Other common victims are Duo's partner and potential girlfriend [[GenkiGirl Hilde Schbeiker]]; [[TheDragon Treize's right-hand]] Lady Une, Quatre's rival/counterpart the violently-inclined [[RichBitch Dorothy Catalonia]], and [[DevotedToYou Lucrezia Noin]], who is in the closest thing this series has to a explicit romantic relationship with Zechs Merquise. Trowa's CoolBigSis Catherine Bloom gets surprisingly little of this, perhaps because she and Trowa act more like siblings than potential lovers. According to ''Frozen Teardrop'' [[spoiler:they are, in fact, blood siblings]].
15	* In ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeed Gundam SEED]]'' and its sequel, ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny SEED Destiny]]'':
16	** The ire of [[LauncherOfAThousandShips Athrun Zala]]/[[{{Tsundere}} Cagalli Yula Athha]] fans, after canon went against them in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSeedDestiny Gundam SEED Destiny]]'', brought ''lots'' of bashing of [[NaiveEverygirl Meyrin Hawke]], [[{{Shorttank}} Lunamaria "Luna" Hawke]] and [[{{Stripperiffic}} Meer Campbell]]... to the point that some people have either: a) sworn off both series as a whole SOLELY for the ShipSinking; b) sworn off the Athrun/Cagalli pairing, or c) ''bashed Athrun/Cagalli back'' for the evil it inflicted on their girls or ships - especially poor Cagalli.
17	** It doesn't help that the amount Athrun/Cagalli even sinks depends on which edition you're watching. The fact that WordOfGod flip-flops all over the place just makes the situation worse.
18	** And it's not only about the infamous Athrun shipwar. If you like [[AllLovingHero Kira Yamato]]/[[IdolSinger Lacus Clyne]], apparently you can't like [[PrincessInRags Flay Allster]] and must call her "whore" and "rapist". If you prefer Kira/Flay, you're often expected to call [[AllLovingHero Lacus]] an unrealistic PuritySue. Not ''all'' the fans are like that, but it's still often the first thing that other fans see when the ShipToShipCombat is mentioned.
19	* A case that's more or less forgotten but was horrible in its time, is the war between Domon/Allenby and Domon/Rain shippers in the ''[[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam G Gundam]]'' fandom. Allenby/Domon stans bashed Rain for being "[[RealWomenNeverWearDresses girlier, therefore weaker and a slut]]" and "too whiny"; Domon/Rain fans retorted by calling Allenby a "third-wheel bitch" who "wanted to tear apart the OfficialCouple". [[spoiler: Nevermind that Ally pulled an IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy and ''pushed Domon towards Rain'' in the end.]]
20	** ''Domon'' himself isn't free of this. Those who preferred Rain with Chibodee or George often took his [[JerkAss already pronunciated]] [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold bad]] [[{{Tsundere}} traits]], [[CharacterExaggeration ran away with them]] and [[TheUnfairSex derailed him]] into a [[RapeAsDrama rapist]] or [[DomesticAbuse a wife beater]] so she could ditch him for any other of her possible beaus. Sometimes, Rain's ''canon'' ex love interest Saette also was badmouthed by Domon/Rain fans, despite having [[NeverGotToSayGoodbye more or less valid reasons]] to wonder about Rain and Domon.
21	** What makes the Rain vs Allenby debate even more interesting is that Koichi Tokita, the author and artist of the official manga adaptation, went on record as saying he preferred Allenby. However, rather than making Rain look bad, he tended to make her look good but Allenby looked better, both in the manga itself and in the silly {{Yonkoma}} included with it.
22	* Exception: despite the sheer popularity of the [[BigBrotherMentor Neil "Lockon Stratos" Dylandy]]/[[DefrostingIceQueen Tieria Erde]] yaoi pairing in the ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam00 Gundam 00]]'' fandom, its fangirls never seem to bash [[BridgeBunnies Feldt]] [[EmotionlessGirl Grace]] for having a sweet crush on Lockon. In fact, many of them actually ''[[EnsembleDarkhorse like]]'' her.
23	** Sadly, it went in Feldt's "defense". More than a few Feldt/[[spoiler: Lyle Dylandy (Neil's BackupTwin)]] fans bash Anew Returner HARD and call her a CanonSue for threatening their OTP. Which is ironic and utterly ''stupid'', since before Anew ''ever'' was in the picture, [[spoiler: Lyle actually preferred to put on a HiddenHeartOfGold-hiding facade in front of Feldt and [[ItsNotYouItsMe push her away]], rather than encourage her to pursue his affections.]] The fact that Anew in canon [[spoiler:hooked up with Lyle, turned on the crew (even if as a ManchurianAgent under MindControl), ''and'' wasn't convinced that her time/feelings for Lyle were true until it was way too late]] doesn't help fangirls' negative perception of her at all, even if that's not all there is to her character ''and'' that whole deal wasn't exactly '''her''' fault, but [[spoiler: her "twin brother" Revive and Ribbons's own [[DracoInLeatherPants And of course]], [[DoubleStandard these two men get scot free in fandom view]].]]
24	** As for 00's main star [[ChildSoldiers Setsuna]], there are those who ship him with [[RebelliousPrincess Marina]] or with [[CuteAndPsycho Nena]]. The odds are most likely in Marina's favor now since [[spoiler: Nena was killed by Louise]]. However, the two aforementioned ladies are... [[TheScrappy not well-liked]]. As a result, some fans [[LauncherOfAThousandShips paired Setsuna with other characters]] such as [[CargoShip his Gundams]], [[HoYay his fellow Meisters, Saji]], [[FoeYayShipping Graham]], [[CrackPairing Louise, Liu-Mei]] or [[FanPreferredCouple Feldt]]. [[spoiler:The last one mentioned [[ShipTease already made her move]], and unlike the two ladies, [[EnsembleDarkhorse she's liked]].]] Recently, however, [[spoiler:questions on who will be Setsuna's LoveInterest in TheMovie have caused some ShipToShipCombat, even though it's most likely he'll end up with no one.]]
25	** Setsuna turned out to be the standard Gundam UsefulNotes/{{Asexual}} CelibateHero... [[spoiler: until TheMovie's distant finale. He visits an elderly Marina and, according to TheMovie's manga adaptation, Setsuna restores Marina's youth and ''ultimately marries her,'' much to the chagrin of the Setsuna/Feldt shippers.(Though there are doubts about [[AlternateUniverse how canon that one is...]])]]
26	** As far as [[TagAlongKid Saji]]/[[BrokenBird Louise]] shippers go, they have a good reason to bash Louise's partner Andrei Smirnov for trying to win Louise's heart, as he has became TheScrappy for [[spoiler:killing his father, [[ColonelBadass Colonel]] [[EnsembleDarkhorse Sergei]] [[CoolOldGuy Smirnov]]]]. And again by [[spoiler: [[MomentKiller interrupting Saji and Louise during an important conversation during Episode 19]].]] And ''again'' in episode 24 when [[spoiler: [[MurderTheHypotenuse he directly assaults Saji]] [[FreudianExcuse blaming him for Louise's deteriorating mental condition]]. Fortunately, Setsuna is there to prevent it , and then [[KarmaHoudini Andrei is swayed away from them]] by his interaction with Marie...]] However, they "conveniently forget" that in TheMovie, Andrei not only [[TookALevelInKindness has learned his lesson]] and gotten some bits of CharacterDevelopment, but [[spoiler: he ''does'' [[LaserGuidedKarma pay for his sins]], via a RedemptionEqualsDeath.]]
27	** Miraculously, [[BridgeBunnies Mileina]] [[TheCutie Vashti]] has managed to dodge shipping-based hate as well, despite having a crush on Tieria [[spoiler: and confessing to him.]]
28	* And believe it or not, ''not even the Universal Century Gundam series are free''. The hate that ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'' fans levelled to [[GirlNextDoor Fa Yuiry]] came less from her status as a NaiveEverygirl unable to 100% become an ActionGirl, but rather from for supposedly "getting in between" [[StarCrossedLovers Kamille and Four's True Love.]] [[spoiler: Even more so after Four actually ''dies'' in really tragic circumstances, Kamille lives on but is {{mind rape}}d into catatonia, and Fa survives and stays with him as he slooooowly gets better, to the point that they appear to be an OfficialCouple by the end of [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ the sequel]]]].
29	* ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAge Gundam AGE]]'' has this too, due to the hostility between Flit/Emily and Flit/Yurin shippers. The first accuse Yurin of being "too goody-goody" and say her and Flit's romance is a borderline RomanticPlotTumor[=/=]StrangledByTheRedString deal, so Emily has a better chance since [[ChildhoodFriendRomance she has known Flit from much earlier]] and thus can handle him better; the latter say that Emily is a mere SatelliteLoveInterest without any depths, therefore the kind Yurin would be more "meaningful" and fit better as Flit's girlfriend. [[spoiler: [[HarsherInHindsight Made worse]] [[WhamEpisode by how episode 14]] '''[[KillTheCutie horribly kills off Yurin.]]''', thus Emily goes the VictoriousChildhoodFriend route (at the very high price of knowing Flit [[ILetGwenStacyDie will never get over Yurin]], mind you).]]
30	** In the second generation, [[TheCutie Romary]] got ''massive'' loathing from the [[TheHero Asem]] / [[TheRival Zeheart]] [[HoYay shippers.]] And more than one potshot from Asem/[[PluckyGirl Arisa]] fans, too. And bonus accusations of being TheObstructiveLoveInterest or a SatelliteLoveInterest for being a GirlNextDoor.
31	* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamTheWitchFromMercury'' has this with Suletta/Miorine shippers, and... well, just about anything that the show implies to be a threat to Suletta/Miorine as a couple. This largely owes to the fact that they are a) largely treated as an OfficialCouple by the show's advertising, promotion, and story ([[spoiler:ultimately being married in the finale]]), and b) an explicitly romantic same-sex couple between the protagonist and deuteragonist, something unheard of in ''Gundam'' and not much more common in anime as a whole. While certainly daring, it also attracts a fandom that has been burned a ''lot'' by BaitAndSwitchLesbians, and consequently found itself raising its hackles every time the show introduced a new guy or started implying ShipTease involving an existing one.
32	** One of the more morbid cases of this was [[RomanticFalseLead Elan Ceres]] who early on seemed to express an interest in Suletta (with the latter seemingly having a crush on him in return) that can be framed in and out-universe as having romantic undertones, all while the other characters (including Miorine) interpret their interactions as romantic in nature and try pushing them together. He is probably the most tragic story of any character in the first season as [[spoiler:he's revealed to have been a BodyDouble turned into an ExpendableClone, and is ultimately executed by his handlers when his Pharact's DeadlyUpgrade wears him out.]] A surprising number of people were actually quite pleased when this happened, as it meant the termination of what would have been him and Suletta going on a date.
33	** Guel is probably the biggest recipient of this. Guel's character as written in the series starts out as a violent JerkJock and Miorine's initial entirely-loveless partner, but then loses Miorine, gets humbled, and becomes increasingly kinder, in part due to an unrequited crush on [[LoveAtFirstPunch Suletta, the first girl to ever beat him honorably]]. However, though he is generally popular, the show's yuri fandom was probably slowest to forgive him. This was not helped by the fact that, as he was the most prominent male character, people who disliked the series for, frankly, misogynistic and/or homophobic reasons latched onto Guel as the "real protagonist" as a way to instigate conflict, even loudly supporting Guel/Suletta despite whole miniarcs going by without them interacting nor Suletta even thinking about him. Even after that pairing was about as sunken as it could be (Guel confesses his feelings properly, Suletta declares herself taken and lets him down gently, [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy he accepts this]]) and [[ShipperOnDeck makes it clear that he actually supported Suletta and Miorine getting together]], he still proved visibly more controversial among the yuri fandom due to being seen as a SpotlightStealingSquad in the show's very packed second cour, beyond just shipping reasons.

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