Line #72 Creator/GenUrobuchi


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8	->''"Failure is the mother of success; a long journey begins from the ground beneath his feet. I have nothing but contempt for the deceitful thing men call 'happiness,' and find myself with no choice but to push my characters, whom I pour my heart and soul out to create, into the abyss of tragedy."''
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10	Gen Urobuchi (born December 20, 1972) is a prolific Japanese author in the VisualNovel industry who currently works under {{Creator/Nitroplus}}. He is (in)famous for creating dark, tragic settings and plot twists in his stories, in part due to nearly dying in an epidemic when he was younger. (Indeed, as he put it in [[http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Shinjidai_no_Mixture_Magazine_BLACK_PAST this interview]], the experience gave him "eyesight of the dead".) The work which gave him this fame was ''VisualNovel/TheSongOfSaya'', an Creator/HPLovecraft-inspired VisualNovel released under Nitro+. As a result, he has been given the nickname "[[FanNickname Uro]][[TheButcher butcher]]" by several circles on the internet. That said, he may be trying to break out of this mold; [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2013-07-25/madoka-magica-urobuchi-writes-kamen-rider-gaimu given how he worked on a]] [[Series/KamenRiderGaim a tokusatsu series.]][[note]](Though he ''had'' stated that said series would be DarkerAndEdgier than the previous entries in [[Franchise/KamenRider the franchise]]. And it was.)[[/note]] Meanwhile, ''Series/ThunderboltFantasy'', is [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-02-05/gen-urobuchi-good-smile-company-launch-thunderbolt-fantasy-puppet-tv-series/.98364 a puppet TV Series]].
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12	He and Kinoko Nasu of Creator/TypeMoon are known to be good friends, and have even collaborated on three ''[[Franchise/FateSeries Fate/]]'' series projects, ''Literature/FateZero'', ''Literature/FateApocrypha'', and ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder''; they also played together in the TabletopRPG that would be [[TheAnimeOfTheGame adapted]] into ''Anime/ChaosDragon''. He's also worked with fellow writers Ichiro Itano (who co-wrote ''{{Anime/Blassreiter}}'' with him) and Yosuke Kuroda (who helmed the adaptation of ''VisualNovel/PhantomOfInferno''), and considers them both his mentors in writing and a major influence on his writing of ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica.''
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14	!!He has worked on the scenarios of the following visual novels:
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17	* ''VisualNovel/PhantomOfInferno'' (2000)
18	* ''Vampirdzhija Vjedogonia'' (2001)
19	* ''VisualNovel/KikokugaiTheCyberSlayer'' (2002/[[UpdatedRerelease 2011]])
20	* ''VisualNovel/TheSongOfSaya'' (2003)[[/index]]
21	* ''Jouka no Monshou'' (2003, a short ''{{Film/Equilibrium}}'' fanfic)
22	* ''Zoku Satsuriku no Django: Tre Donne Crudeli'' (2008)[[index]]
23	* ''VisualNovel/PsychoPassMandatoryHappiness'' (2015) (only project planning and supervision)
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25	[[/index]]
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28	!!He also worked on the following light novel series:
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30	* ''Literature/FateZero'', under the direction of Kinoko Nasu
31	* ''Manga/BlackLagoon: Shaitane Badi''
32	* ''Eisen Flügel''
33	* ''Literature/FateApocrypha'' as the concept creator of Spartacus and Vlad III
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36	!!And he has been involved in the production of the following series and films:
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39	* ''Anime/AldnoahZero'' (creator, scripts for episodes 1, 2, and 3)
40	* ''Anime/{{Blassreiter}}'' (as scriptwriter)
41	* ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'' (as scriptwriter)
42	* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' (script and series composition)
43	** ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'' (scriptwriter)
44	** ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieWalpurgisnachtRising'' (scriptwriter)
45	* ''[[VisualNovel/PhantomOfInferno Phantom ~Requiem for the Phantom~]]'' (scripts for episodes 6, 18 and 25)
46	* ''Anime/PsychoPass'' (script and script editor (season 1); story concept and supervision (season 2))
47	** ''Anime/PsychoPassTheMovie'' (screenplay)
48	* ''Anime/GargantiaOnTheVerdurousPlanet'' (script and series composition)
49	* ''Anime/ExpelledFromParadise'' (screenplay writer, this is actually one of Gen's LighterAndSofter works)
50	* ''Series/ThunderboltFantasy'' (script and series composition)
51	** ''Film/ThunderboltFantasyTheSwordOfLifeAndDeath'' (script and composition)
52	** ''Film/ThunderboltFantasyBewitchingMelodyOfTheWest'' (script and composition)
53	* ''Anime/GodzillaPlanetOfTheMonsters'' (scriptwriter)
54	** ''Anime/GodzillaCityOnTheEdgeOfBattle'' (scriptwriter)
55	** ''Anime/GodzillaThePlanetEater'' (scriptwriter)
56	* ''Anime/{{Obsolete}}'' (creator and scriptwriter)
57	* ''Anime/{{Bubble}}'' (co-writer)
58	* ''Anime/RWBYIceQueendom'' (animation concept)
59	* ''Anime/{{Revenger}}'' (script and composition)
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63	!!Tropes which apply to him and his works:
64	* AppropriatedAppellation: His Twitter handle ([[https://twitter.com/Butch_Gen @Butch_Gen]]) is suspiciously reminiscent of his FanNickname.
65	* AttentionDeficitCreatorDisorder: Several series of his have seen his involvement getting rather spotty:
66	** ''Anime/GargantiaOnTheVerdurousPlanet'': He provided the plot outline and wrote the script for the first episode, then was largely uninvolved with the rest of the series. He at least came back to do the script for the final episode.
67	** ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'': He hasn't been involved with anything related to the franchise after the ''Rebellion'' movie.
68	** ''Anime/AldnoahZero'': He infamously left the series after only writing the first three episodes, claiming to be far too busy with ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'' at the time. A good chunk of fans who had started watching the show solely for his involvement felt betrayed.
69	** ''Anime/PsychoPass'': His involvement has fluctuated. He was there from start to finish for season 1, but had no involvement with season 2. He was co-writer for [[Anime/PsychoPassTheMovie the 2015 movie]], and handled planning and supervision for the ''[[VisualNovel/PsychoPassMandatoryHappiness Mandatory Happiness]]'' visual novel, but after that, he had no involvement with the ''[[Anime/PsychoPassSinnersOfTheSystem Sinners of the System]]'' trilogy or season 3. Post-2015, he essentially departed the franchise in favor of ''Series/ThunderboltFantasy'' and his ''Godzilla'' movies.
70	* AuthorAppeal: He apparently likes using ordinary guns in a fantastic setting [[MugglesDoItBetter and to show that they get the job done]], if ''VisualNovel/TheSongOfSaya'', ''Literature/FateZero'', and ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' are any indication. ''Anime/PsychoPass'' also counts; even though the [[ImpossiblyCoolWeapon Dominators]] work, [[spoiler: they are useless against the Big Bad, so he ends up being executed by an ordinary revolver.]]
71	** If [[Literature/FateZero Saber, Maiya]], [[Anime/PsychoPass Akane, Yayoi]], and [[Series/KamenRiderGaim Yoko]] are any indication, he also seems to have a thing for women in suits.
72	* BittersweetEnding, if not outright a DownerEnding.
73	** Two of his 2013 works seem to deconstruct the former. The first is ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'', where Homura [[spoiler:after a conversation with Madoka, realizes that Madoka may not be alright with her HeroicSacrifice and that the only reason why she did it in the first place was because it was the right thing to do. So she takes matters into her own hands and rescues -- well, kidnaps is a more appropriate word -- Madoka and replaces her as the Goddess (making an enemy out of Madoka in the process). Her new universe makes the other characters live happy lives [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans at the cost]] of sealing away their memories, taking away their responsibilities as magical girls, and, worst of all, betraying her best friend Madoka. And she hates herself throughout for having to go through with it, thus hitting this back to a Bittersweet Ending]].
74	** The next one, ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'': [[spoiler:Kouta [[PhysicalGod ascends to godhood]] by winning the Forbidden Fruit, but in order to save the current world he exiles himself, Mai and the Helhelm infestation to a distant planet far from any source of life]].
75	* BreakTheCutie: If there's an idealist in his story, chances are that person will be broken by the end. The Type-Moon wiki describes this tendency as the Reality Marble Dead End Catharsis: Heaven & Hell Drop, which lowers the luck of all characters in his stories by one rank.
76	** Subverted in ''Anime/PsychoPass''. [[spoiler:Akane gets broken briefly after Yuki dies, but gets back to her idealistic self. In the end, Akane nearly gets broken, but learns to understand the cynical side of life while keeping her ideals and still mostly being an idealist.]]
77	** Also subverted in ''Kamen Rider Gaim'', [[spoiler:as Kouta suffers multiple breakings but has always managed to bounce back.]] [[spoiler:On the other hand, his best friend, Micchy, was broken completely before the midway point and pulled a FaceHeelTurn. It isn't until he learns the hard way that BeingEvilSucks that he finally recovers at the end.]]
78	* CoolShades: He wears a pair of sunglasses at every public appearance he makes. The photo on this page is actually an oddity for him, as even most pictures of the man have him with his shades on.
79	* CosmicHorrorStory: A good number of his works are influenced by Creator/HPLovecraft novels and the cosmic horror genre. He also names Creator/StephenKing, another dabbler in cosmic horror, as a major influence (particularly on ''Madoka Magica'').
80	* CreatorBreakdown:
81	** He confesses to this in the afterword to ''Fate/zero's'' first volume, saying that he can no longer write happy endings to his stories. He attributes this in part to his hospitalization in 2002 during the [=SARS=] epidemic, where he watched most of his fellow patients die from the disease and emerged deeply traumatized by the experience. However, with the ending to [[spoiler:''Puella Magi Madoka Magica'']], he [[CreatorRecovery seems to have gotten over it]]. [[BittersweetEnding Somewhat.]]
82	** [[spoiler: Then came ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion Puella Magi Madoka Magica]] TheMovie [[HappyEndingOverride Rebellion]]''. ''Goddammit, Urobutcher.'']] ([[MisBlamed Although that was actually]] Creator/AkiyukiShinbo's idea.)
83	* CreatorRecovery: In ''Literature/FateZero''[='=]s afterward he wrote that he wanted to write a heartwarming story one day, but couldn't because of his "tragedy syndrome". Then came ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' [[spoiler: where he does manage to write something heartwarming exactly as he described in the ''Fate Zero'''s afterward.]] Since then, his later works have fallen more on the idealistic end, such as (the admittedly still dark) ''Anime/PsychoPass'' and ''Anime/GargantiaOnTheVerdurousPlanet''. It probably helps that ''Madoka Magica'' has put him on the map as a writer of television shows.
84	* DarkerAndEdgier: [[https://40.media.tumblr.com/90264548a7431f26965baba3fb0f18dd/tumblr_mowxntnr061rmwgqyo1_500.jpg The incarnation]] of this trope done right. If you're not sure how to darken the tone of your story without succumbing to TooBleakStoppedCaring, hire Gen Urobuchi. Under his purview, the darkness levels are practically guaranteed to get ratcheted up several notches. His friend Nasu jokes that he actually is a RealityWarper.
85	** In one instance, when ''VisualNovel/SweetPool'' was being developed, Fuchii Kabura (writer) once asked Urobuchi how the story's atmosphere should be. Urobuchi responded to Kabura that "your [[YaoiFangirl audience]] are all over the age of 18 and has grown up, stop giving them sweet romances", further proving this trope. Urobuchi was later satisfied on how dark and disturbing ''sweet pool'' turned out to be.
86	** He somehow managed to one-up ''Creator/HideakiAnno'' in this department, by making the ''Godzilla'' anime trilogy darker than Anno's own ''Film/ShinGodzilla''. How often do you see a ''Godzilla'' film where [[spoiler: the protagonist's LoveInterest dies ''horribly'' due to assimilation]]?
87	* {{Deconstruction}}: Seems to be a specialty of his, be it deconstructing love (''VisualNovel/TheSongOfSaya'' and ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica''), heroism (''Literature/FateZero'', ''Series/KamenRiderGaim''), power (''Series/KamenRiderGaim''), Japanese culture (''Anime/PsychoPass''), or selflessness (''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica''). In the case of the ''[[Anime/GodzillaPlanetOfTheMonsters Godzilla]]'' [[Anime/GodzillaPlanetOfTheMonsters anime trilogy]]...''all of them?''
88	* DeconReconSwitch: In spite of the above, good tends to prevail and outright {{Downer Ending}}s are generally avoided in his works. It's just that BalanceBetweenGoodAndEvil tends to be very much in effect and the price of victory keeps the characters and the viewers alike wondering whether it was worth it.
89	* FateWorseThanDeath: Despite his infamy of being the "Urobutcher", killing off his characters isn't the ''worst'' he can do to his characters. He's also known to have his characters being raped, brutally tortured, or chronically turning his characters into literal monsters. In fact, he let some of his characters live, but have them go through emotional and mental suffering either seeing some of their loved ones killed off (''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica''), having their ideal dreams destroyed and/or exposed (''Literature/FateZero''), or all three (''Series/KamenRiderGaim'').
90	* ForHappiness[=/=]TotalitarianUtilitarian[=/=]TheNeedsOfTheMany: Many of his works focus on, and brutally deconstruct, utilitarian and consequentialist ethical philosophy (see ''Literature/FateZero'', ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'', ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'', ''Anime/ExpelledFromParadise'', and the ''[[Anime/GodzillaPlanetOfTheMonsters Godzilla]]'' anime trilogy).
91	* GreyAndGrayMorality: Also seems to be a fan of this, ''especially'' the kind that becomes obvious in hindsight, as shown in ''Anime/GargantiaOnTheVerdurousPlanet'' [[spoiler:(the "aliens" are actually extremely modified transhumans, and both they and the still-human humans have legitimate reasons to hate each other).]]
92	** However, some of his works tend to BlackAndGrayMorality (''VisualNovel/PhantomOfInferno'', ''VisualNovel/KikokugaiTheCyberSlayer'', ''Literature/FateZero'', ''Anime/AldnoahZero'', ''Anime/PsychoPass'' and ''Anime/GodzillaThePlanetEater'') or WhiteAndGreyMorality (''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' and ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'').
93	* KidHero: In an industry where most protagonists are under 18, he mostly avoids this, with the exception of ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' and ''Anime/GargantiaOnTheVerdurousPlanet''. ''Kamen Rider Gaim'' deconstructs the concept as [[spoiler:kids are the ones to get powers because the villains are exploiting their immaturity for all its worth]], [[DeconReconSwitch yet at the same time]] the kids often act more maturely and selflessly than the adults do.
94	* LighterAndSofter:
95	** ''Expelled from Paradise'' is one of Gen Urobuchi's lighthearted works and it did not contain any deaths, tragedy, or other shock value while maintaining some of his theme of [[GreyAndGrayMorality complexity of human nature and subjectivity of happiness]] at the same time.
96	** ''Fate/Accel Zero Order'', a {{crossover}} event between ''Literature/FateZero'' and ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' whose main story is written by Urobuchi, is notably far more idealistic than the original ''Zero''; this is because one of the main allies of the player is a FutureBadass version of one of the Masters, and thus can SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong. Only one of the Masters dies, the most overtly evil of them, and while all of the Servants still die the heroic ones are all either killed honorably or allow themselves to vanish due to the Holy Grail War drawing to a close. However, it's still a very serious story, especially when juxtaposed with the DenserAndWackier events for ''Grand Order'' that Nasu loves to write.
97	* PhraseCatcher: "Dammit, Urobutcher" and variants. Normally uttered by the viewers upon the ([[SignatureStyle inevitable]]) WhamEpisode that starts the CerebusSyndrome.
98	* PromotedFanboy: He is a noted fan of the classic ''Franchise/KamenRider'' series, and served as the head writer for ''Series/KamenRiderGaim''.
99	* RapeAsDrama: He is not above using rape as a source of drama, including [[VisualNovel/TheSongOfSaya young]] [[Literature/FateZero children]].
100	* RomanticismVersusEnlightenment: His works are usually heavily favorable towards the enlightenment side thanks to utilitarianism as a common theme in his works. However, said utilitarianism are usually deconstructed from the enlightenment perspective, noting how many utilitarians who try to create a better world for the many end up with their plans either backfiring or benefiting no one but themselves. Some of his works have antagonists from both sides of the spectrum, although most of his protagonists are usually from the enlightenment side. [[labelnote:spoilers]][[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka]] serves as a mediator for both sides. She wanted to end everyone's suffering, but at the same time, [[AllLovingHero she loves everyone deeply]] and used her PowerOfLove to ascend herself into a goddess. [[/labelnote]]
101	* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism: His works stand heavily on the cynical side of the scale, sometimes to the point of being nihilistic, but he says that he used to write works that still have a glimmer of hope in them. [[spoiler: That being said, [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica some]] [[Anime/PsychoPass of]] [[Anime/GargantiaOnTheVerdurousPlanet his]] [[Series/KamenRiderGaim works ]] have demonstrated a gradual progression away from the cynical end of the scale; see immediately below for details.]]
102	** Though ''Literature/FateZero'' deconstructs heroism, [[spoiler:the final conversation between Kiritsugu and Shirou shows that Kiritsugu at least saved Shirou, who would go onto try to be a hero like his father. Unlike Emiya who got nearly nothing for his struggles, Shirou does manage to make the world better in some routes of ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''. Emiya also does save the world by preventing Kirei or others from making a wish with the Holy Grail, which would bring destruction to the world, though Emiya does not get world peace like he wanted.]]
103	** And then ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' ends on a [[DefiedTrope double-barrelled middle finger]] to this trope, making the whole thing ZigZagged across his general body of work.
104	*** Continuing the zig-zagging, ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagicaTheMovieRebellion'' portrays the old idealistic ending as not really very happy, then [[MindScrew uses extreme cynicism to create a completely happy ending]].
105	** Gen Urobuchi seems to have some respect for idealism now, as Akane shows in the end of ''Anime/PsychoPass'' [[spoiler:by keeping and believing in idealism throughout the whole series and then giving a speech on it to the [[BigBrotherIsWatching Sibyl System]].]]
106	** And, finally, Gen appears to show full respect for idealism now, since the ending of ''Anime/GargantiaOnTheVerdurousPlanet'' had [[spoiler:Ledo fully embrace the idealistic way of life on the Gargantia, and is also willing to make peace with the Whalesquid.]]
107	** ''Kamen Rider Gaim'' continues this, [[spoiler:as the most blatant anti-idealist speeches are given by either Sid (who is a HateSink and a SlimeBall) or Mitsuzane (who's become quite insane by the time he does so); and our hero Kota eventually more-or-less declares that his enemy is ''cynicism itself''.]]
108	* ShoutOut: ''Django'' is filled with tons of Shout-outs and homages to SpaghettiWestern works. To give you an idea, the female protagonist's [[NoCelebritiesWereHarmed name]] is Franco il Nero[[note]]a ShoutOut to actor [[Film/{{Django}} Franco Nero]], obviously[[/note]] (黒のフランコ), and that's just the beginning.
109	* SpaghettiWestern: ''Django'', which is also a SpaceWestern.
110	* SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids[=/=]TrueArtIsAngsty: He is also definitely on the side of those who consider happy stories to be unrealistic, to the point where he has actually suggested that Lighter and Softer stories, by definition, ''contradict the laws of nature'' and are therefore difficult to write and impossible to believe.
111	-->"I am full of hatred towards men's so-called happiness, and had to push the characters I poured my heart out to create into the abyss of tragedy.
112	* StrawNihilist: In his earlier works were much more bleak in tone even when compared to his most recent works.
113	* ATasteOfTheirOwnMedicine: One of the major triggers that pushed him forward in collaborating with Pili International Multimedia to make ''Series/ThunderboltFantasy'' was the sudden death of his favorite character within the Pili series he brought home with him. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAVJhuuz1Vs RIP Bǎi Lǐ Bīng Hóng, your name will be forever remembered.]]
114	--> '''Urobuchi:''' [[https://twitter.com/butch_gen/status/439864674708754432 "Dude? Wait!? Bǎi Lǐ Bīng Hóng (百里冰泓)......''WHAAAAAAAAAAAT!?''"]]
115	* TooHappyToLive: The characters he often kills off (or if he doesn't kill them off, makes them suffer) happen to be the happiest, [[NiceGuy friendliest]], and [[ThePollyanna most optimistic characters]].
116	* TrollingCreator:
117	** He has gained a reputation for this with ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica''. {{Iyashikei}} he is ''[[BlatantLies not]]'', and the term somewhat becomes quite memetic and synonymous in ironic sense to his name in the fandom.
118	** [[http://twitter.com/Butch_Gen/status/294344105620803584 What happened as described in this twitter entry]] seems to be his StartOfDarkness or the rationalization to his [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica recent]] [[WhamEpisode famous]] [[OffWithHisHead writings]]...Or is it?
119	-->"Lila Milla Rira of ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' died soon after her ShowerScene shocked me so much at that time. How could [[Creator/YoshiyukiTomino Director Tomino]] allow such a beautiful, booby character casually die? I hated him very much back in the days when I'm in college. [[HilariousInHindsight I think even though it's fictional anime characters, it's not a good thing for them to die so easily.]]"
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121	* UnlikelyHero: Not only is he fond of this trope, but in [[http://nekoshiritori.wordpress.com/2014/08/25/interview-with-gen-urobuchi/ an interview]], he admitted that the people he views as true heroes are often these.
122	-->A hero is one that doesn’t want to be a hero. A hero is a one with all the possibility to make the choice but take the responsibility of the moment. And it’s really something hero has got to do. For example, in 9/11 some of the plane’s passengers fought with the terrorists. In Fukushima’s radiation leak, some people went and tried to fix the nuclear plant and died. But they have to do it. They are heroes. They don’t try to be heroes. They take responsibility and try to do what is right.
123	* WalkingSpoiler: By the time he started to work on ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' the man himself had become a real life example of this trope, in that his involvement in the writing of ''Madoka Magica'' alone gave the part of the audience aware of his track record a rough idea [[DarkerAndEdgier what]] [[AnyoneCanDie to expect]] from it. [[GenreSavvy Urobuchi himself apparently was aware of this]], as [[http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Gen_Urobuchi#Involvement_in_the_Magica_Quartet he initially intended his involvement to be kept a secret]], and when this failed he tried to [[TrollingCreator mislead]] the audience by promising a heartwarming story. It did become a heartwarming story, [[GoneHorriblyRight however]].
124	** ''Franchise/KamenRider'' fans had the same reaction when ''Series/KamenRiderGaim'' was announced, though in this case he didn't deny it and even said that he took some of the darker previous ''Kamen Rider'' series as influences, while his associates joked about how kids would dislike drinking orange juice (referring to ''Gaim'''s fruit theme) by the time the WhamEpisode kicked in.
125	* WhatCouldHaveBeen: According to some statements from Urobuchi (as referred in [[https://youtu.be/2eUdRZjNN2Y?t=4m59s this video]]), Urobuchi finished watching ''Anime/HeartcatchPrettyCure'' right after finishing ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' script and admitted that if he finished that Precure first, he might have considered a happier ending for the Madoka series, which was already idealistic but still overall dark.

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